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The RV Odd Couple covers the top RV mistakes you need to avoid before buying! If you’re looking for RV advice for first-time owners, stick around!
First-time RV owners can run into several mistakes, especially if they are overly excited like we were. This video aims to provide some RV help by pointing out common mistakes RV buyers make. We’re also going to tell our RV purchase story and cover our top most embarrassing RV buying mistakes that we regret making. These are the big mistakes to avoid before buying a motorhome, so make sure you watch this video first, before even stepping into a dealership.
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What do you mean, “You don’t want it to get moldy, like you’re down in Florida.”? Is that the inside or outside and how do you avoid it?
@@LaffinJoker Trying to avoid mold inside. :-)
i wish i had seen this video before my recent purchase of an older allegro bay. private sale, seller told us everything was okay and than when money was handed over, started telling the flaws. wow crooked. now stuck with until resale ability in spring. yelled at us when we called several times complaining.
hopefully better luck with next purchase, if it has not haunted me to not own one. Thank you for your knowledge.
@@juliacorpora4794 Julia, you probably could have refused to take delivery due to fraudulent representations. Or, have figured out the true value of the allegro bay and sued the seller for the difference between its value as represented and its value w/ undisclosed flaws. Depending on the amount, you might be able to go to small claims court which is easily done without a lawyer. A seller cannot make false representations about a product. When they do, they have breached the contract because you entered into a contract to buy a product that conforms to the seller's representations. When it does not, and the seller knew it when he made the false representations, it's fraud!
Odd couple - there are a couple of things on your "kitchen organization" page that Amazon apparently doesn't sell anymore. But Amazon does have other items like them in case you can link something else and get credit ???
Here is a big one, never finance your RV at the dealership. Go to a bank and get pre- qualified. The bank will tell you up front what the payment will be and how much you can spend. Then you walk on the lot as a cash buyer and can tell them to stick the credit app in their black water tank.
No,always use dealer financing because whether your financing or paying cash your purchase price will be the lowest(they think they will make up the profit through their lender)then when the first payment arrives pay the balance in full or refinance through your bank.Dealers make profit with financing more than the sale itself,especially camping world.
@@thomassmith8156 break that down for a 5 year old lol I was thinking of getting a loan through the bank because buying at the dealer they ask for a down payment
And at 9 to 11 percent... high payments
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We took what would have been our down payment for a new RV and used it to buy a well maintained unit from an older couple. Being first timers we didn't know if we were going to actually enjoy it and get stuck with payments and depreciation over the next 15 to 20 years.
If you don't enjoy RVing you might take a small hit of 1k or so if you go to sell it in a few years. I have heard some people say "ewww" I don't want to own a used one that someone else already slept and cooked in, until you remind them that they have probably never stayed in a brand new Hotel/Motel room. Just buy a new mattress and give unit a good detailing if you have cleanliness issues. Older people seem to love to keep maintenance records and to maintain a safe unit everything works as it should.
No monthly payments and I'm enjoying the Hell out of it.
Fantastic! Glad that you found a beautiful Rig! Thank you
I am an ex-RV Tech. I saw your video about RV buying mistakes. I saw the video and see your points and they are valid. The problems are not as much of an issue with individual people as systemic and it is even worse than you have surmised.
Let me fill you in on how the industry works.
If you want a good RV don’t buy a new one. Get one that is one to two years old. That way all the problems have already been found and fixed and someone else had to put up with the headaches.
Also, some of the ugly little secrets that a dealership doesn’t tell you about warranties is that there is a few fine prints clauses in most of them (not all of them so check yours). First of all they have to be repaired at the dealership they were bought at. You cannot just go into any dealership and expect the warranty to be honored. Second, the manufacturer states in the paperwork that these units are designed for temporary use. Not full time use. If you are living in it full time the warranty is void. So much more to say but I don't want to turn this into a novel so I will stop there.
Wow!!! Thank you so much for taking the time to contribute here. This is great info! We are going to dig thru the fine print and see. Thanks again for contributing! 😀👍😀👍
I'm from Alaska and I bought my trailer down in Arizona. During the drive up to Alaska the gas side of my water heater failed. After I arrived back in Alaska I took my trailer to the dealer that sells my brand and they fixed it under warranty in about 20 minutes. No fuss, no muss, they just fixed it. All it needed was a new circuit board.
oct171966 wow! Sounds as if you’d be better off taking your lawyer with you during a purchase! I just don’t get it... why isn’t customer satisfaction cheap advertising in itself? They sound like a dealership writing their own one-way ticket to their demise!
Great post. I have heard from full timers is to by 2 years old and sell by 7 years to avoid long term issues.
@@AlaskaErik Who is your warranty with?
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Another thing from a victim of bait and switch, myself, a salesman showed me a pull-behind RV that was pristine and had every thing we wanted. Did not leak, looked great. When I picked it up, it did not look quiet right, but same model,same color. Got it home, leaked like a sieve, had manufacturing defects that could not be fixed, and more. How could ours leaked and the one we looked at did not? My advise is if you find one on the dealers lot that you like, write down the "VIN" number and make sure it matches the one on the purchase contract and the unit delivered.
Wow, so sorry to hear that happened to you. Good advice in writing down the VIN #!
@@RVOddCouple I made a mark on the underside of a cabinet we were getting. On delivery I looked for the mark and didn't find it. I turned to the salesman and said this is not the one we're buying .He challenged me and I told him of my Mark. They had sold the other camper and we walked away.
@@leonardgabrielgabriel6866 Good for you for walking away. What scoundrels they are.
These aren’t embarrassing, they’re real concerns!!!
We appreciate you not judging! We hope to help others not make the same mistakes we did when buying an RV. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing! I'm getting ready to start the RV life for the first after being a caregiver to my elderly parents for the past 5 years. Now that they are both in heaven, it's time to start doing what I always loved....traveling. This time with my dogs. 🐾❤😁
Same boat as you. Good luck!
Why do you talk about it like your just like “omg finally I don’t have to look after anybody anymore, now I can finally do what I wanted to do now that my parents are dead (:”
@@taracarlos6069 because she did her Duty and took care of both of her parents and made sure they were comfortable and peaceful. It's her turn to live. I did the same thing my mother died relatively quick from lung cancer I took care of her from diagnosis to the last breath she took that was about two and a half years right after she passed We buried her in April and by November my father was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. Surgery to remove five feet of his: ending in a colostomy. Previous to this he was diagnosed at age 62 with early-onset dementia. It's okay in 13 years of being sick and colon cancer came back as well as prostate cancer. The prostate cancer was treated with hormones since he was topped out on chemo and radiation. He was 84 surgery for the colon cancer was successful but then he kept having small Strokes. We were no longer able to care for him in his home and had to put them in an old folks home he lasted about a month before he died of sepsis. After all that work and anguish and exhaustion and selfless dedication to both of my parents it was time for me to get on myself and go live my life at the age of 47.
I love that Johnny Knoxville is into RV's and that he's aging so nicely!
I have watched several rv life videos and I have to say yours is the first that I did not skip through and actually finished. A well put together video with down to earth good information. Thanks so much.
We love our Forest River too and have tips on buying one. After deciding on a model, find which dealer advertises the best price and obtain a 5 year loan with your credit union. Then one spouse takes a certified check to that dealer and brings the RV home. It's a huge mistake for both spouses to go because RV salespeople are pros and they play the hubby against the wife so pretty soon you're getting sold worthless add-ons like paint and fabric protection, extended warranties, gap insurance, etc, etc, etc. and are agreeing to a disastrous 20 year loan. All told a 38RKFK advertised for 52K will cost over 100K if you don't have the discipline to say no.
Hope this helps.
Great tip Sam! Thank you for sharing
My additional cautions:
1. If you can pay for an RV up front, DO NOT let them tell you that they have to charge a fee for cash payment. Some dealers will try. They want their interest one way or another. Tell them where to go and threaten to bring your money elsewhere. I know somebody they tried this with and a threat to walk away does the trick.
2. Refuse to pay an "inspection fee." It is the dealer's responsibility to inspect EVERY unit they sell before they send it out. They rarely do any inspection at all anyway, more than glancing at the rig, and for that they defraud you out of two or three thousand dollars. If they won't let you bring in an independent inspector if you want one, walk away. Threaten to walk away, and read to make sure they don't just creatively work this and things like the cash payment fee in elsewhere.
3. Assume that every "nice" salesperson you talk to is lying and that every dealer will do everything they can to cheat you on their poorly slapped together junk, because those three things are most likely true.
4. Never buy new. Buy one a year or two old that the first victim has had to deal with and has gotten some bugs worked out of and has depreciated an embarrassing amount, to your benefit.
5. The convenience of multiple locations of the aforementioned dealer is irrelevant. They'll screw you over every chance they get. I wouldn't stop in there to use the restroom.
6. If you don't feel comfortable in any way with the dealer, walk away. If you feel very comfortable with them, you are probably far too trusting and should be more skeptical.
Thank you thank you thank you!!! These are phenomenal cautions and suggestions! ☝ You have a ton of experience! Randy L thank you for sharing these. If you look at the comments, we have a ton of people that are planning on hitting the road soon. Please don't hesitate to share any more nuggets of wisdom!!!
@@RVOddCouple
No. Thank you for listening to all that. I can get a bit wordy sometimes, when I get started. I've learned some scary things, mostly from a lot of other RVers' horror stories.
@The Snookman
I believe you're right. It just occurred to me that in buying used, you pretty much avoid all those other snares and pitfalls.
Randy L I was wondering why they refused a large downpayment from us. They said the bank will not approve us if we increase our downpayment. 🙄 (I thought before, it didn’t make sense)
A few for cash payment? Seriously? Heck, for an item with this much early depreciation there should be a discount for cash up front.
Thx for sharing such honesty it’s very rare 🥴. We’re on 2 RV opt to get an older model without the bells & whistles. Mostly manual & elbow grease wouldn’t change it. 2nd owners with only 20,000 miles when we bought our GyPsy WaGon.
We looked at so many newer models that during the sales pitch some bells & whistles broke or didn’t work 😳. 1st real lesson were the tires. 🥴 Learned Not to buy the RV tires but commercial Tires. RV tires blow out on the sides, even though we kept our tires covered in sunny places cause they crack & dry. 2 lesson was if ya ever in colder climate FT’in condensation is ya Enemy. So we got small fans placed them in cabinet the front cab & sleeping areas. Air is ya friend. 😄😃. Love ya videos love honesty & the true reality of FT RVing. There’s the Good, the Bad & ugly but what an awesome time exploring this great Country God placed us in.
Happy Safe Trekking God bless 🚎✌️🙏. shalom
Lots of great information! We had to replace a tire in the first month! And mold is a major concern! Appreciate your willingness to share your RVing tips and tricks. Thank you for the kind words. God bless you and yours!
You two are the best at presenting the story together. Though I’m only considering a small trailer, I watched the whole video mesmerized by your unwavering support to each other while describing such difficult times! You are the Couple of the Decade! And your advice is as priceless as your style. Thanks!
Wow, thank you!
I have to say, you two are so genuine, candid. We are planning to RV fulltime in two years. So appreciate the valuable information you two have shared. Thank you.
OMG, this couple is THE BEST! I haven't bought my RV yet, but these are great things to know!
These tips are basically life lessons when purchasing anything. Thanks for mentioning sales person part and warranty part. These tips are invaluable. So glad I subscribed
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We are just starting our research for our RVing journey and you guys have been a HUGE help! You both rock!
After owning 3 sailboats over the past 20 years, and two trips to the Bahamas, my wife and I have decided to buy a class A RV and hit the road for a couple of years. We are giving ourselves 18 months to sell our boat, find an RV, rent out the house, and learn what we need to know for life on the road. I stumbled across your videos after our first visit to an RV dealer 3 weeks ago - we drove 90 minutes because their website showed they had about 12 - 15 RV's in our price range to look at. We called and talked to a salesman, and he indicated that the RV's we wanted to see would be opened up and ready for our inspection. When we got there, only 1 of the units we wanted to see was actually on site. It was Camping World - go figure! I have been watching your shows everyday for the past two weeks, and have learned so much. I have been a professional video shooter, editor, and producer since the mid 80's - so I'm a bit particular when I watch shows on UA-cam. You guys have such great chemistry and enthusiasm - I always look forward to your next production. Keep up the great work! Hope to meet you in person somewhere down the road!
You two are ADORABLE together & this single video information is INVALUABLE for anyone considering RV life, especially about Camping World bc so many folks just go there by default, thinking the same thing you did about the sales staff & warranty only to be heinously disappointed. Looking forward to more of your videos. Safe travels!
Thank you Mimi 😍 Safe travels to you too😀
She needs to shut up and stop interrupting him. Take turns talking guys!
@@kellyjones9476 Well, they're married, so....
Great video, thank you for being so honest.This video will help future RV buyers.
Gregory Turner Thank you 😊
Great video again, thanks. I have been watching RV videos for about 5 years. My wife and I bought our new 2018 Montana 5th wheel after I spent a good 3 years researching. You can never do too much research. We had a travel trailer for 8 years and plain outgrew it for longer trips than 3-4 days, so we knew what we wanted in our new 5th wheel...more space and comfort. I bought the new full ton HD truck in 2017, then the 5th wheel in 2018. Our big mistake was rushing the dealer to get our custom order RV done in time for our first month long trip to Arizona for baseball spring training. We ordered our RV with the custom paint, the Legacy package, etc. When we picked up the RV, they said to make a list of problems and they would take care of everything when we got back a month later. Well, we put together a 22 item punch list during that month in Arizona. They honored their word and fixed everything on our list, but it took nearly a full year at the dealership. We had to delay any further trips while waiting. Then when we picked it up again and checked all fixes, we drove it home to clean it really well. On the way to our house, the large rear window dual roller shades fell down again. I told the dealer service guys that the cheapo brackets were no match for the weight of the dual roller shades. While bumping down the road, the brackets just bend outward and the shades fall onto the rear sleeper sofa. I have my own machine shop for my business, so rather than taking it back to have the same cheap brackets installed again, I machined a set of aluminum support blocks to hold the shades in place, works perfectly, no more problems. It was a design flaw, not the dealer's fault. I really recommend learning to fix things yourself if you are so inclined. I must admit, although it took a long time, the dealer did fix every other issue on our list. We did have to fight them a few times as they said manufacturer won't cover this and that and blah blah blah, but we held firm and they did it all at no cost to us other than time. We do not plan on buying a new RV every 5-7 years like others recommend. We take very good care of our RVs. Our 8 year old travel trailer which we traded in was in such good condition that the dealer's wholesaler dragged it off the lot to resell it before I could even give them the keys. My best advice is to learn your own maintenance on things you can do yourself. It is not that daunting to educate yourself about all the systems and save the time your RV spends at the service department. RV ownership is not for folks who are not mechanically inclined unless you want to spend a lot of money and time without your RV.
Wow! We're so happy to hear that they took care of all of the items, but the amount of time that you waited is unacceptable. It's just not right. Ultimately you're right. If you are going to RV, you have to be handy. And not "duct tape" handy. You actually need to know how to solve problems. :-) . Thank you for sharing your story. We agree, there's no such thing as too much research!
Don't be embarrassed. Grateful you don't have RV ego's and are open to sharing in order to help others. Every time I call my RV lady I apologize cause I feel like I should have purchased by now or I owe them and I get so bummed about it because of the amount of time they spend with you. But I had to learn " It is their job". I feel your energy, John. It's contagious and inspiring but sometimes we need Mercedes energy in order to make our dreams come true. And i think it's awesome how you guys were able to do so taking steps together. I had a very similar experience a decade ago when purchasing a car. They suggested i sign something to hold the vehicle since they had someone else interested in purchasing the car. So i did with a deposit of a thousand $. The next morning I call to tell them I can't go forth with the sale and they tell me " We're putting the new tires on right now"... I passed out in the dentist office. I threatened to sue and i was able to walk away. But this experience has held me back and has haunted me. ps: I got your backs from the trolls. xo Thank you for being you
Thank you so much for this! I made John stop what he was doing to read this to him. You're absolutely right! Revealing that we had made this very poor financial choice was extremely embracing. But then we started thinking to ourselves, "We've been binge watching RVers on youtube and never once heard of this. Why?" And that's when we knew. We don't want anyone to experience what we did. You're a nice person, so of course, you don't want to waste their time. But when it comes time to make the monthly payments, the sales person will be gone. :-) I'm so sorry that experience happened to you. But on the bright side, you haven't let the lesson from that escape you. And thank you about the trolls. I'm starting to feel bad for people that have nothing better to do than watch something they obviously don't like and be mean. Who does that? Life is toooo darn short! Thank you again! :-)
I had absolutely no problem with my purchase at Camping World. I saw the bag of chips I wanted in the vending machine, put in the dollar, pulled the lever, and out came a bag of potato chips. No hassle, no fast and loose contracts, no problems.
northerniltree lol
You might have over paid for those chips
You got lucky with camp world in your state.
#4 especially good. #6 🤣. On warranties, always shop. Budgeting the cost and paying up front can save 1/2 to 2/3 over what the RV dealers get, not counting the financed interest. And at such time as you sell the RV you can often cash in the warranties for a prorated refund. The dealer and the salespeople get a kickback off anything they sell. (RVing and camping for 60 years, full time for 10, and doing 4-8 months for the past 16 years. 24 RVs of all kinds between the 2 of us over 50 years.) Good to see you out enjoying the life. Thanks for sharing your adventures.
Thank you for sharing your experience Jerry! You are very welcome and thank you for joining us on our adventures 💚👍😀💚
We just bought our 1st RV!
2020 Winnebago Outlook 25J. Absolutely love it & wanted to thank you for all of the videos | advice! Y'all helped make the entire process easier than falling in love! We wish every 1st timer would watch THIS video!
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Great to hear Jason! This type of comment helps us through the tougher days. Congratulations on your first RV. Let us know how it goes:)
Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing you mistakes so we can learn from them. One of my famous sayings that isn't famous yet is, " You can learn from a person who's perfect." I'm not saying there are "perfect" people, after all perfect is relative. I'm just using that expression to highlight how important it is to be open and honest about mistakes and difficult moments. It's more beneficial for those who get it. Anywho, I'm hoping to be full timing and running a UA-cam channel sooner than later. So I appreciate you guys putting this and you other experiences out there.
You are very welcome👍😊 Our promise was to be honest with all of it! Good, bad, & ugly....We have had many more good days than bad👍😊💚
My family is shopping for our first RV. Thank you so much for this valuable information. The comments are from smart, well informed and experienced people. You have given us golden nuggets of knowledge. Thanks so much.
Happy that the Odd Squad has helped! Thank you Cecy 😀👍😀👍
We spent a year checking 5th wheel toy haulers out not at Camping World. Hubby decides he wants a particular one that I didn't want so... I give in. The manager who sets up the paperwork asked if we wanted the "Camp Ready" package for $1000.00 which means as soon as you drive off the lot your rig is supposed to be 100% ready to go camping. Wrong, there were so many problems with that 5th wheel that it took 4 to 5 weeks to get it completed. I went to the manager to ask for a refund on the "camp ready" contract because they hadn't filled their obligation for it. He said "NO". I then decided to contact the owner of the dealership to which the repair man said he couldn't give that information so my husband says "I bet my attorney can get it quick". He gave us the contact information. The owner was terrific all the way around. I got that $1,000 back & some brand new tires as the ones on the coach were not so good. We learned a lot through this even though it wasn't our first rodeo. Sorry this is long but maybe someone can get help through our mistake.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with us all. Glad that you got a chance to talk to the owner and that he made it right. Merry Christmas
Great stuff! Y'all are a great fun couple. A big part of Rving is problem solving and stories. Doing it as a couple just enriches the experience! Look forward to watching more of your videos!
You're right. RVing is a problem solving endeavor! Thank you so much for the kind words! :-)
Y’all were right on about Camping world. Went to look at RVs today and went there to look and was up front that we were starting search and not buying today. So after the salesman showed us 3 RVs and wouldn’t let us look without him he tried everything to get us to buy and we said no just started looking he said that’s all I have to show you and showed us the door. So I told him I’ve been watching a lot of UA-cam and doing my homework about buy RVs he said that was the worst thing I could do. And walked away. Will never go to CW again all were every rude.
Thank you for sharing this! I believe (IMO) CW is on it's way out of business! The pressure on sales people must be pretty high... Thanks again and stay away from CW😀
Our experience was the same. A sales lady didn’t want to show my son a floor plan he wanted to look at. Unless he was going to buy it. She finally gave in. This isn’t the only bad experience we had either them. They advertised the price with delivery included and the increased the price of delivery. They didn’t want to honor their pricing from on line. I blame there high top management or the owner for training them.
Thank you both so much. Just starting out looking and this video really opened my eyes to all the pitfalls.
You're right about getting everything fixed before taking possession. We noted only a very few things. They told us take for a shake down trip or two, then schedule an appointment for all the repairs. However, once the appointment was made and we took it in, we were told the list couldn't be more than 7 or 8 items. Then, because we already had a coast to coast trip planned, we were told it would take 4 weeks. Four weeks turned into 7-1/2. When we went to pick it up, we found they had fixed a couple of things that didn't need fixing and neglected to fix things that needed to be fixed. Luckily they were things my husband and I could fix, which we did. Then, I found a 2-1/2' cut in the linoleum floor behind the driver's seat where no repairs were to be done. When I told our service writer, he said bring it back and we'll fix it. The problem is the tech that caused it used a greasy box cutter and that grease spread and discolored the linoleum. I told my husband there's no way I would take it back because everything they touch something, they wreck something else. We did not buy into the extended warranty and I'm so glad we didn't. They fixed most of our list and the rest we will live with. It's really a shame that the RV dealers are such shysters.
You should probably subscribe to The RV Show on UA-cam. They talk a lot about Camping World.
Hi Carol, Sounds extremely familiar! We know exactly what you feel. We won't ever buy from them again.
Ty
Thank you SOOO much for the real world advice!!! I am a total newbie with no experience looking to get in rving. So i really appreciate it!
Your very welcome Sasha! Welcome to the amazing world of RV living! Keep us updated on your experience 😊
Hey Sasha - I am at the start of my one year, before going full-time. What have you done, since you made this comment? amg52amg@yahoo.com
My family and I are shopping for an RV now. Your tips are priceless! Thank you so much for your openess and honesty!
We are early in our RV research. This video and many replies are so valuable. I have learned so much.
Happy that we can help Deborah👍😀
Thank you so much. This really helps me. I typically start researching a year or two before I buy anything, and that is usually because everything that I'm researching is new to me. It is when I get to a dealership that I would start to falter. They would make me feel bad for the time that I've taken or am taking in that moment. So knowing in advance that this too is part of their strategy to promote quick sale when possible is a plus for me not to let my guard down. So, thank you for sharing y'all experience. I've learned to "check everything 3 times" or better and lol, to have somewhere to park a camper before buying. (I was thinking that I would be fine if I went with a small class C or larger B, but, to be safe I will now research that as well) 😊.
You are very welcome Sabrina😀 Happy to help where we can. Go slow, look at all options, go to an RV show and walk on as many as you can, know exactly what you want before hand and then have them bid for your business. Thank you and let us know what you decide😀
Great suggestions! Another to add to the list, don’t go hungry or tired. If the process is taking a long time, leave go eat something, gather your thoughts and impressions then return if you’re comfortable or move on. We also shopped dealerships. We chose a family operated business an hour away that has a good reputation rather than one just miles from home. Also ask what their rate is for service when out of warranty. We were quite surprised at the range between the 3 dealers we narrowed our search too. If you expect to have them do periodic work this can be important. Also ask your dealer about the service techs. How many do they have, how many bays, average wait time for an appointment, levels of experience etc. Ask to see the service area, once you’re done in the showroom this is where you’ll be doing further business. Lastly get to know your rig, join forums for information and learn to work on it yourself when you can.
Donna these are really great points! I wanted to add bring a snack but John thought it was silly. But I get "hangry" easily so I just need to bring a snack in general lol. But great questions! I never thought to ask specific questions about the service department! You're absolutely right, once you guy you have to deal with the service department. Hopefully someone see's this and uses your tips. Thank you for sharing!
You guys are AWESOME!! APPRECIATE your honesty! a much needed chat for newbies! THANK YOU!
That’s great advice!! I took my time and bought the perfect RV for me. After 3 years, I still have no regrets. Love it every day! Subbed
Welcome to the RV Odd Squad. Glad you joined us. Taking time is such a big heart-ache saver. I'm so glad that you didn't do the "bone headed" thing that we did. :-). Expensive lesson to learn.
Thanks for admitting these. We made some of those too. You have a great energy that comes across. Fun to watch
Thank you Lori💚
Thank you so much for that advice I've been looking for a while and sometimes I feel pressured and rushed sometimes I feel like they get upset when I don't buy it you guys are great you really know what you're talkin about thanks again
You are welcome Greg! Don't buy until you know exactly what you want and have a solid plan...Thank you👍😀
This video was very helpful. When I bought my second travel trailer I am totally sold on the RV dealership we went through in Minnesota.The sales person asked up front what kind of truck we were going to be using she said we don't let you buy something to make a sale. If your truck isnt big enough we tell you. When we purchased it the sales person, mechanic and us walked through we all made a list to be fixed and when we picked it up all 4 of us walked to make sure every thing was fixed they showed us how everything worked and gave us a card to call them if needed.
Sounds like you had a great experience and we are so happy to hear that. I wish we had a similar experience.
Great video, as far as camping world goes I was dealing with them for 5yrs with my previous travel trailer for repairs and such and it was a huge pain. Weeks, months dead ends and empty promises. I recently bought a new trailer from general rv and the experience for me was amazing from start to finish.
Glad to hear that. Buying an RV is one thing, but how the service department takes care of you is a totally different deal!
Here's a tip. Buy any extended Warranty with cash in a non-sales tax state. Example Oregon. Call a dealer there. They will sell you an extended warranty for $100-200 over cost. Works for cars, trucks and boats too.
Wow! This is phenomenal advice! Thank you! Such a simple way to save a lot of money! Thank you!
Just purchased our first RV and we love our unit, no buyers regret, but ohh I wish I’d seen this video first!! We did our research, knew what we wanted, and wasn’t in a hurry. I’m currently fighting with the dealership to get things fixed that we found wrong during demo, things that were broken before delivery, but they were all “ohhh we will take care of it, go ahead and take it home!” Yeah, big time BS. I’ve begged and pleaded and tried to be reasonable and patient. Now I know it was a big scam.
You guys are awesome! I love your honesty. The first video I watched was the Pissed Off video. You are spot on about the UA-camrs that don’t respond. We follow many sailing groups and find the same thing! I too feel so connected to them but honestly, they don’t know or care that we exist! So happy to have found you. We are just beginning the RV lifestyle possibility. Your channel will be a huge help.
Happy to help Tammi :) Go slow.... and Let us know how it goes...
Love your honesty! Mistakes happen to everyone but many people like to forget about therm and don't pass the info on. After spending a day or two with your sales person, with (a lot of) them acting like your friend you start thinking/feeling like you can trust them to be totally honest. Unfortunately, many aren't 😟. I probably would have made 90% of your mistakes and another 10-20% different mistakes. Love your energy and chemistry!
Thank you Smit! We are Blessed to be living this life and are grateful to have learned so much from our viewers. We think that simply being honest about our mistakes has helped us grow. Thanks again😀👍
Grand Design seems to be the best brand out there from what I have seen on You Tube. You really have opened a lot of eyes...you have to stay sane during all the excitement.
Maybe, We love our Forrest River but would choose Van Leigh if we were to purchase a premium finishes fifth wheel. Thank you👍😀💚
John and Mercedes love watching you guys. As a widower I recently rediscovered my youth in camping although believe that RV is a better way to go. I should add I neither own presently or will for next 5 years. Goal is at that point to tour through Canada and the U.S. visiting as much of the parks and trails humanly possible. While you opt for a larger trailer I think my first trailer will be a 20' or so and as I spend most of my time outdoors or sleeping I'm not in need of larger home style at this point - that could change. The question I have is did you jump into a large trailer or did you do a step up or steps up. I love that you pray, although I'm more a spiritual person as opposed to religious and believe treat others as you would expect to be treated. I love your UA-cam episodes and look forward to conversing. When hiking I tend to hike 24 km a day so base camp is important :) Second question is did you declutter as oppose to sell off everything or simply sold everything and as the episodes grow I notice items have expanded - what items have you discarded while on this 6 month tour?
Thank you for being a part of our Journey Michael💚 Great questions! Hope one day we can sit around a fire and get deeper into these questions...Here's the short answers: Our 42' Rig was our first Rig, 20' sounds perfect for one or 2 people in our opinion. We too are Spiritual not religious! Our relationships with God are direct and personal. We decluttered and rented 10'x10' storage unit for the things that we saved. Sold or donated everything else. Thank you💚💚💚
Me and my bf just bought a rv about 3weeks ago so we can travel all the states and all your videos are very helpful in every way. Thanks you guys 👍😄
Thank you! We have been dreaming of RV living and finally about to make it happen. My husband has been doing all this research, but I told him that I need videos that also talk about the bad stuff and the mistakes! Just like parenting, I don't want to get into this with only half the knowledge! Not everything is sunshine and rainbows!!
Wonderful August 😀 Welcome to the RV Odd Squad. We keep it real and share all of it. The good, bad, and ugly. We love the lifestyle but it is not all rainbows and butterflies :) Let us know what you end up doing :)
More important!! NEVER buy your last RV first. Always buy a cheap used RV to start out this way you get to know how you camp and how your family relates to the space. What we thought we wanted dramatically changed over the three years we got our feet wet with our used TT. Also.. go to RV shows. The salesman are busy and leave you alone. Last of all. Once you do find your dream RV, look for it used by a year two at the most. You save a ton of money that way. as for us. We narrowed our shopping down by manufacturer. We knew we wanted a grand design but was waiting for the right floor plan. We broke our rule and bought brand new at the Hershey show. Only because we got two dealers into a bidding war over us. We walked out saving almost 50 percent 🤗. Don't be afraid to take your quote to another dealer and ask for a better deal 😉 oh and we walked away with a free lifetime warranty.
seabliss22 Great point!
@@Lauren-vd4qe Lol, Thanks for watching
@@Lauren-vd4qe nah.. grand design stands behind their products and they gave us a one year warranty. This isn't our first dealings with Stoltzfus we know they also stand behind their service. We shopped dealers long before we shopped RVs. If our dealer didn't carry it, we crossed it off our list.
Wow...50% off is awesome!
No we purchased our First and Last. I didn't want someone else issues so we got new. We didn't care about depreciation because we don't plan on selling. We paid cash everything within even all upgrades. We started debt free purchased a 2019 Puma FKRK
So glad I watched your video. I did find a TT that was used at Camper World but due to reviews I decided not to even go see it physically. Ended up buying from an individual,so glad I did. Appreciate your openness. Thanks.
So glad you didn't have the same kind of experience that we did. It was embarrassing sharing our mistakes but glad we did! :-)
You two have published a awesome sincere and informative video. Love your sense of humor and fun sprit. Great RV buying tips. I subscribed!
Thank you for your video! I was going to Camping World this weekend. No more!!
Say away. And check out our video called worst rv dealership where we share the actual documents to watch out for!
I’ve owned an RV ( 5th wheel ) for over 10 years and I would add start with a used one and work your way to a newer ( not new ) one that has all of the bugs fixed and you save a ton of money because of resale value goes way down the minute you leave the lot ! Many people have little to no experience pulling a 5th wheel ( I drove OTR for over 35 years ) and they get into situations a lot ! I found a 1976 24ft. Mint shape 5th wheel for $1,000 , now for that kind of money it was worth seeing if we liked to RV ! Our next one was a 28ft also very nice shape ( always check the floors for soft spots ) for $5,000 and it’s a 2006 and when we buy our next one it will be a 34ft and we will upgrade our truck from 1/2 ton to a 1 ton , all in due time ! Like you said take your time ! Oh and it pays to join a club like GoodSam and AAA !
Thank you for the advice. You are right. The first owner of the RV takes the brunt of the depreciation! We wanted new and assumed that new meant no issues. (like with a new auto). lesson learned! :-)
A God send since I am new to this..thanks for the important information...it’s all right you goofed that is how you learn..and now you get to teach others..plan on continuing to watch your videos.
Just found your channel...YAY! My hubby and I have been researching full time rv living for almost 2 years, and I go Friday to try to negotiate a deal and get the one we want built, (my hubby is currently stationed in Japan until Sept, and when he returns we hope to take delivery of our rv). I am so glad I found your video! I talked with another channel yesterday about rv buying tips, and I appreciate all the advice from those of you who have done it and learned what the best strategy is! 💗
Thank you both for your service. Families sacrifice a lot too, so thank you. Don't be afraid to walk away. They will call you back, so don't let them tell you that someone else will buy it from under you. Take your time. And make sure you don't get the extra warranties that they sell. Check out our "Worst RV Dealer video" where we show you the documents they use to sell you. You are better off putting money in savings. Hope this helps. Welcome to the RV Odd Squad! :-)
@@RVOddCouple Thank you so much for your kind words!! My hubby and I have been married 25 years, and he has been a Marine for 23 years. After hundreds (and hundreds) of thousands of dollars spent on military housing, and only 7.5 years left, we realized we have nothing to show...so we are moving into a Grand Design 397 toy hauler, lol! Our 22 year old daughter will be moving into a house to finish up college, and our 21 year old daughter, Sis, has Williams Syndrome, functions at 8 years developmentally, and she will always be with us...no empty nest, YAY!!! 💗 We will be stationed in Cherry Point, NC for 3 years, then back to San Diego to finish up his time. We are originally from the Smoky Mtns of TN, but we also love TX, so not sure where we will retire. We are super excited to start a journey that is focused more on less stuff and more journey/experience. We know it won't be easy, but at least we will own a tiny home that is OURS and can take us on amazing adventures....eventually, lol! We are so excited to follow your journey! 🥰
Sounds exactly like my experience with camping world. Horrible service after the sale.
We bought our camper also from Camping World and you are right their prices are good but from that point on it's an absolute nightmare. This service department is atrocious we brought it in for warranty work they had it for 6 months and damage the camper on the way out the door then denied that they even made the damage however we never fell for their upsell on warranty items. Good luck hope to see you out there
Glad you didn't fall for the warranty items. Love the use of the word atrocious and that is a perfect description of our customer experience with Camping World. They damaged ours too. Safe travels!
This video is so true. Here in Australia the experience of buying an RV is exactly the same. The dealers play the same game. We have a lady here who got "duded" by a RV dealer and she has made the whole consumer law thing turn on its head.This lady has cleaned up and still cleaning up the industry through litigation. Her name is "Tracy Leigh" and has thousands of followers and financial supports. We have "doggy" dealers going into liquidation like crazy all due to this lady's input. I'm really writing this to say thank you for sharing your experiences. As you tell your story I'm thing just how dishonest and conniving some dealerships are everywhere. Thanks guys.
She needs to visit the states! :-). Tell her to clean up our RV industry too!
Yes, unfortunately some dealerships are very dishonest. There are a few good ones, but they are few and far between. Hope we help others avoider mistakes!.
Great video! We made all of these mistakes, except the last one, when we bought our new travel trailer in 2016, including purchasing at a dealer friends had warned us about.
So many of us did! It's so sad too! We didn't have the warning of friends, but hopefully we warn others and save them our struggles! Thank you Christie!
Thank you sooo much for the advise! My husband and I are in the market. 1st thing we will NOT do is go to Camping World!!
So glad. We just want to save you from the same problems we experienced. You may want to watch our "worst RV dealer" video. We share the actual document that they use to close you on the additional policies. You have to see it. So sneaky! :-)
Stay away from La Mesa RV as well not enough time to list their faults read the reviews.
She pirate: Terrytown R.V in Grand Rapids Michigan. A Super Great Dealer for prices, customer service and after the sale service in the midwest. This dealer also does a huge amount of business Nationwide I have done tons of research on many Dealers and they are one of the best. 4 of my friends have purchased new from Terrytown in the last 3 years and are very happy with their overall experience from sales to service which is crucial when making such a big purchase. Customer service is a high priority there. Im also about to purchase a 5th wheel as well at Terrytown. Google reviews are rated at 4.7. Just some Words for thought. Night and Day compared to Camping World and many others..
Any one has a dealer recommendation for near central California? Me and the hubby looking for our 1st. Got 2 boys and looking to show them some fun adventures. But definitely do not want to make to many mistakes 😉
Oh and we were looking at Camping World!! That ain't happening now lol.
We bought our Fifth-Wheel at Berryland Campers in Ponchatoula Louisiana and the dealership had us triple check the RV and wouldn't let us leave with it until we were familiar with the right, plus we got a great deal
Sounds like a good place to by an RV😀
Love that you guys are so brutally honest and willing to share your information with us. Love your channel. Laurie in Tampa Bay.
Hi Laurie💚💚💚 Thank you
Thank you for sharing your experience! It has created a helpful dialogue! I have learned a lot from you and the comments other RVers have made. I have a lot to learn, but this is a good start! Thank you!!
You are very welcome Sharon! Happy that you found the RV Odd Squad. Wealth of info in the comments.
UA-cam just recommended this site to me. Glad they did. You two are a pleasure to watch, and since you are new to RV life, I am learning a lot about the process of purchasing an RV and adjusting to the lifestyle. The mistakes that you chronicled in the video are very helpful. The same can apply to purchasing a new car. I had heard others talk about service at Camping World, but also avoid Lazy Days in Tampa FL. See the recent videos from "Next Exit" and an older one from "Greatescape." They will send chills down your spine. Since you are just starting out, and still learning, your videos will be very helpful for someone like me starting out with the purchasing process. Thumbs up! And subscribed!
Thanks RG! Welcome to the Odd Squad!😀
Ive heard that purchase agreement scam a number of times. I've heard people run into the possession scam before also. And I've had two dealers that were awesome. Thanks for sharing your experience, hope it helps people.
Thank you Kong3
Omg, we had nearly the same experience buying our new camper at camping world. The enormous list of problems took nearly a year to fix and they damaged our camper as well! Not only and If they dent it and crush in the cargo door, they broke a downspout and replaced it with a white one and the other three are black!!! Great video.
I'm so sorry! What a head ache! I hope newbies read these comments and learn from our mistakes! Lesson Learned! (Painfully, but Learned)
I just discover you guys so I am going through your old videos. I am really enjoying all your content. I just wanted to say that I knew before you even said so that you went to Camping World. We bought our first Travel trailer from them. While I have to say that our sales guy was a lot of fun. They really pressure a person into buying. We were newbies and didn't realize a lot of things. We will never go to Camping World or any big RV dealer chain again. We found a small family owned (third generation) RV dealer and we are thrilled with the whole buying process for our second RV. These people have been wonderful. No pressure, no hidden fees. They did a very thorough education and walk through with us which we did NOT get at Camping world. They DID teach us about the camper, but it was NOT good.
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Great advice. Thanks for your honest and open sharing of your own errors.
Thank you Cary, It was really embarrassing but we knew other people would benefit! :)
We’ve spent the last two weekends looking at mom and pop RV places, for the right one, and we’ve heard the EXACT Sane Bad things about Camping World!! I made the mistake of asking CW for a single quote online and had to add my phone number in order to get it, and I kid you not, they call me every single day!! They’re stalking me..lol They even text me!! I told one lady, I’m on my way to an appointment and we’re going to buy some place closer, but I was nice. Then she text me back asking, an appt with another Camping World?? I’m like, no, a Dr appointment!! Lord help me! Lol Great video! Thanks so much for sharing the tips. Much appreciated!! :)
Lol! I'm sorry to laugh but that is funny. You can't shake them off. But the not funny part is that our experience was that after we bought our RV, it was hard to get in touch with anyone. Oh my goodness. I'm surprised they didn't ask you where your doctor was! lol!
Thank you so much for allowing yourself to be vulnerable. We learn so much from your transparency. 🤗
You are very welcome Cindy💚 Thank you
That has been my problem w buying vehicles or a house from my younger days. I’m so glad that you shared this video.
Really cool that you’re trying to help others not make the same mistakes...thanks!
Thank you Mike. That was exactly our intention- to help others avoid these mistakes. :) We learned the hard way!
Thank you Mike. That was exactly our intention- to help others avoid these mistakes. :) We learned the hard way!
Thank you Mike. That was exactly our intention- to help others avoid these mistakes. :) We learned the hard way!
May be one of the nicest couples I have ever seen. Amazing guys, thanks for the video!
DarkNalel Thank you 🙏
ditto
I wholeheartedly agree! Thank you so much folks. Newly-retired, planning on buying my first RV soon. Thanks for the great advice!
My BIGGEST RV buying mistake was trading in my 2005 Jayco Granite Ridge 3100SS Class C for a 2016 37 foot Georgetown Class A. I put myself into a mountain of debt when I could have invested just a few dollars comparatively to make my Jayco like new. The Class A, and they may all be like this, was sorely lacking in braking power. It scared me. After a few years I traded it in at tremendous financial loss on a 2019 Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ travel trailer. EVERY DAY I still miss my Granite Ridge. A warning. When you see a new RV that tempts you, stop and think before you let go of what you have. I didn't and that's the worst financial decision I ever made in my life. Great video, John and Mercedes. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you for sharing your experience Donald. This will help others. We love to help. Thank you
Thanks so much for your insights. Really appreciated the input. Some things I would never have thought about.
Happy that we can help Stephen👍😀 Thank you
Eye opening! I learned a lot. Thank You
Thank you for watching! 😀
The sales men that sold you the RV sound like crooks to me.
They weren't RV'ers and they didn't care.
Almost all salesmen are crooks.
Thanks for saving us money! Doing research currently for first purchase!
So glad I found your channel, thanks for the tips!!
Thank you for sharing!
buzz zub Thank you Buzz
I’m so exhausted from not being able to trust any company. This has to change!
AMEN Cupcake. It seems as if the entire world is out to shaft the consumer! I'm growing tired and weary of having to double, triple, and quadruple check reviews before purchasing most items, especially big ticket items.
We wish we could say "this company is great" but we don't have experience with a good dealership. But members of the RV Odd Squad tend to have a better experience with smaller rv dealerships.
Me too.
car dealers no better sad
@@RVOddCouple I went to a locally owned smaller dealership, made multiple visits with checklists, did extensive online research and still got screwed. After they sold the one I wanted out from under me and lied about it, two came in of the model I got but they said the first had already sold and I could have the second one about to roll in (this was during the covid panic buying of RVs, but not my reason). Turns out they ended up giving me the first one, as if they were doing me a favor to let me have that one. The truth was the first one was completely messed up, so since I was a newbie they thought they could pull it off on me.
They ended up delivering it with 24 major problems, that I'm still trying to get resolved a year later. So much for small dealerships, but maybe it does work better most of the time. It's just not foolproof.
Say I really enjoyed your presentation the sincerity bleeds through. Usually husband wife kind of presentations are campy, but yours had a genuine feel to it. Thanks for all the information!
Thank you for being so open and honest. This was so great!!
Wonderful advice thank you
Thank you for watching :)
You guys are so cute, honest & fun to watch ❤️❤️ thanks for the info - I’d rather have a B or C van/ RV so if I have to drive off, I can without having to get out of my unit like you have to in a 5th wheel
Hi Valerie. Funny, I'm gravitating towards a B or C. I'm not realistically ready for the next level of downsizing that it would require, but the idea of being able to stop anywhere sounds awesome! Maybe in the future. Who knows?
Wow! Thank you for your video. I am looking for my 1st camper. I visited a RV show @ Florida Fairgrounds and decided to hold off on a purchase to do some research. So much to learn. Didn't even think about keeping the RV at a certain temp even in storage. Great tips!
Happy that we could help! Take your time and get in a bunch of them before you consider pulling out the check book! Thank you
I just Adore you guys!! I'm a Faithful Fan. I am on my third RV & still learning. Spring is here & I'm ready to hit the road!! Safe travels my Favorite RV ODD COUPLE!
Oh, thank you Dawn. Appreciate your support and kind words. Hope we help you with our how "not" to channel. lol.
@@RVOddCouple Lol Wow..!! You really do answer back & promptly!! You are all in my prayers! Wishing you all the very best. 🇺🇸🌼☀🌼🇺🇸🌟😎
Blessings Dawn💚
"Credit check"? "Just sign here"? (On a purchase order?) That guy should have been fired.
You two make great videos! Thank you.
Good luck.
That's what makes us mad. That's their practice. The more we research the company that we went through, the more that we hear stories like ours. But we are hopefully helping others avoid our mistakes. Thank you for the kind words and well wishes. We appreciate your support! :-)
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He probably became the sales manager...
It’s sad to see people treated like this so they can make a living. There are ways to make and KEEP customers but most don’t understand how to do business. Word of mouth is the cheapest advertising that works.
It’s also the knife in your back! 🤬 in the end, it all comes around. (Both ways)
Thanks for the video! Bill
I am an older single lady and I guess you could say I am a full time RVer...6 months on the open road in my motor home and 6 months in my 35 ft Prowler in resident owner RV park in Leesburg, Florida. I had 2 different little Toyota Class C motor homes over 25 year period and loved them so easy to drive and go anywhere. Well, my last one got totaled in an accident 3 years ago no fault of my own. So in 3 weeks I had to find something and ended up with a now 28 year old Dodge Roadtrek Class B. I ended up with a little settlement and want to go back to a Class C. Thinking of a Jayco Redhawk 22J. Any advice you or others can give me will be appreciated and kept in mind. There are tons if dealers within 50 mile radius of where I live here in Florida. I guess I will stay away from Campers World. I went to one while up in NH...not crazy about their small Thor Class C anyway.... I felt like you guys that they are everywhere so if you have a problem you could get them serviced almost anywhere on the road, but I guess that is not really a good thing! Thanks for reading my comment... I give you guys lots of credit with your frankness in your travel adventures!
Thank you for sharing this here Marion💚 Our favorite part of this UA-cam is reading our comments. Thank you again😀👍
@@RVOddCouple Your welcome! Wondering if you are in Florida for the winter. Maybe I will find you in my travels somewhere. Will be looking for more helpful hints. Please check out my UA-cam site; lol You can find me filming some of my trips and music...karaoke ... lol not very good at it, but it is fun! Happy travels, Marion
My wife and I are looking forward to moving on to our next chapter in our lives. We will be buying an RV probably within a year. I want you to know how much my lovely and I appreciate your videos. Thanks for cutting to the truth and giving us great guidance towards that purchase. We are just so very excited about it. We are looking at Northwood RVs because of the independent suspension vice a one carriage system.. Friends of ours just bought an Arctic Fox an they love it!!! 5th Wheel seems to be what would fit our lifesyle. We have enjoyed all your videos. I want to highlight, your RV safety video is first class, wonderful and much needed. Thanks so much. Lovely and Steve
So happy for you Lovely and Steve 😊. Keep us up to date and maybe we’ll see you out here
We bought a front living 5th wheel. LOVE IT!!!!
Very informative video with many common sense recommendations, thanks for sharing.
Thank you and you are very welcome Gene👍😀
Great advice all the way. That's what camping world is famous for. Hate you had to learn it yourself first-hand. Safe travels
Yeah, Camping World has a terrible reputation. I don't know how they get away with it in this day and age, with the Internet and social media and everything. I wouldn't go within a mile of the place! 😀
We are just at the very start of the RV purchasing process, and this video is invaluable. Thank you. Will watch all of the rest of your vids. :)
Happy we can help Mathew😀 Welcome to the RV Odd Squad and thank you for the support
This is a really good video, thank you for the information.