Purchased a set of cbs 4 to pw 6 weeks ago and im loving them. They replaced my 3 year old mp59s and they offer far more help. To be honest they only look slightly chunkier and after a week you dont notice. They are slightly cranked lofts as the 4 iron is about same loft as a traditional 3 iron.
I got the older version of these irons when I was a 7 handicap ..2 years on now and I am just turning assistant professional.. I love the feel off of them and the long irons perform great for me. I would recommend taylormade irons to anyone
Following a recent visit to the local Pro, and a good session on the flightscope - and out on the practice range - I've recently picked up a set of these (4I-PW - plus a couple of 'matching' wedges) to replace my aging set of Wilson Di6 cavity backs. Playing around 18 HC, with a bit of fade to my general shot shape. Saw some really interesting data coming off the flightscope showed a significant reduction in (fade) sidespin from my current set - as well as a decent increase in backspin. On the practice ground I hit a dozen or so 7 Iron shots with a very compact dispersion - even on a couple of shots hit noticeably heavier. Only managed the one round with them so far, but again they felt good to hit (4I maybe a little 'dull' on most shots, but then I've been using a hybrid for the past few years so may take me time to get the strike right) Some great results with 6 to 9 irons into greens - arrow straight on well struck ones, and minimal fade on the longer clubs when not quite timed right. I even saw some evidence of actual backspin on a couple of occasions. Early days yet, but they certainly feel good to me, and the look is great.
I have them. Great clubs. Minimal offset, good lines and a bit of help. Cast, but if you are good enough to play blades, then get blades. And get on a tour.
I replaced 21 year old Big Bertha X12s with these and lost two balls first time out. Why? Because they are far longer and I hit them well past where I'd planned. The feel great when you catch them, they instill confidence when you addresses the ball and they go pretty straight no matter where you strike the face. I just need to work out my yardages. Verdict.....I love them.
Personally, my fitting numbers were slightly better without the speed pocket. That is, higher launching (difference in loft might account for this) and touch faster ball speed. Therefore, I purchased the Rocketbladez HL instead of the regular Rocketbladez. TM was the clear winner for me over all major brands. Gaming them six weeks now and improving every round. YMMV
Great videos mark keep them up. I have these irons and they are not forged. But I find that the speed pocket does help me a bit with the longer irons, but feel wise not much. Could you test them agains the bio cell + and ap2 because i am tempted to trade them in for the either one. the feel on the cobra's and ap2 are better than the cb's and the bio cell + are cheaper as well. Also the ap2's and bio cell + have more traditionall lofts and not cranked up like the cb.
Hey guys I have a 4 handicap and I am still using my R7 tp irons. I really like them but think it's time to move on. Would love anything similar to the R7 tp's, I like TaylorMade and Mizuno. Any recommendations?
I wanna say that only the whole blade set and the 8-PW in the MC version are forged, but like you said Taylormade's website doesn't specify for certain.
well the speed pocket is interesting when you don't find the center of the face each time, helps reducing the dispersion in distance, I guess that if you have the same loft on your CB and MP64 and strike it perfectly, you would barely see difference distancewise, but strike both from the heel or toe, I guess that the CB will go further
Not in focus mark, I'll stick to my ap2's, these cb's wouldn't fill me with confidence head too small and the last set of clubs I had with a lot of off set I threw in the lake.
5i with 16° launch is super high (for professionals!) 5i with 3400 spin is super low, even with the prov1X are you sure you are getting the ballflight you want to have? that looks like a random amateur scooped (not enough shaft lean) ballflight with a flying high trajectory. regular 7i is launched at around 13-17 (17 is really max, for high trajectories). no professional launching it higher, so for a 5i you can discount ca. 4 degrees on both ends as a launch-angle. and then with more spin, you get the same height and a better landing angle. cheers
Hi everyone, I'm just getting into golf and looking to buy a set of clubs does it really matter what your handicap is to what clubs you buy? Surely if you buy a set of clubs and stick with them you will eventually get use to them and improve with them? Can anyone shed some light on this please? Like I said I'm new to golf so go easy haha!
Like you said, no matter what clubs you buy, you'll get used to them eventually. However, for a beginner, it would probably be best that you get started with more forgiving clubs. This means cast-iron cavity backs over forged blades, and don't break the bank on your first purchase. As for drivers and woods, just buy what feels comfortable.
As a rule of thumb... Cavity back irons help the less skilled player, where blade style irons are typically used for higher skilled players. Cavity back irons are much generally much easier to hit and would be the ones most golfers would recommend for a beginner.
Love your reviews Mark but seriously "you can't feel anything" through the hands? Really?.... Agreed the sound of impact may influence feel slightly but the hands 100% do feel the quality of strike. You mean to say when you completely toe a blade it sounds bad but you don't feel it in the hands?? Hmm. I'd be willing to bet if you wore ear plugs/defenders and hit a few you'd know if you struck it well. Sorry but you keep mentioning this & it's starting to bug me... Haha ;-) keep up the good work!
Trev D Exactly, I think that part gets missed in all this talk of feel being an illusion. Feel is vibration, sound is vibration... In the end the experience of feel is the frequency of that vibration picked up through multiple senses...Sound and touch. Feel's real baby.
you don't think you can actually feel any difference between forged and cast? perceived difference in feel is just based on sound? interesting. any deaf golfers out there got an opinion? it's an interesting one.
i dunno - you see the irons they brought out for 2014, the xtd? just a simple game improvement iron. the 'CB' range was an adamsgolf line that was really awesome. by carving the best tech out of adamsgolf, they are effectively killing the brand. imo
i don't mind taylor made having so much choice but they don't even explain who should be using their irons on their own website. If it wasn't for you guys be impossible.
Purchased a set of cbs 4 to pw 6 weeks ago and im loving them. They replaced my 3 year old mp59s and they offer far more help. To be honest they only look slightly chunkier and after a week you dont notice. They are slightly cranked lofts as the 4 iron is about same loft as a traditional 3 iron.
I got the older version of these irons when I was a 7 handicap ..2 years on now and I am just turning assistant professional.. I love the feel off of them and the long irons perform great for me. I would recommend taylormade irons to anyone
Hi Mark. Off topic this one. I just saw your interview on the Golf Digest channel. Very enlightening. You kept that one quiet!
Following a recent visit to the local Pro, and a good session on the flightscope - and out on the practice range - I've recently picked up a set of these (4I-PW - plus a couple of 'matching' wedges) to replace my aging set of Wilson Di6 cavity backs.
Playing around 18 HC, with a bit of fade to my general shot shape.
Saw some really interesting data coming off the flightscope showed a significant reduction in (fade) sidespin from my current set - as well as a decent increase in backspin. On the practice ground I hit a dozen or so 7 Iron shots with a very compact dispersion - even on a couple of shots hit noticeably heavier.
Only managed the one round with them so far, but again they felt good to hit (4I maybe a little 'dull' on most shots, but then I've been using a hybrid for the past few years so may take me time to get the strike right)
Some great results with 6 to 9 irons into greens - arrow straight on well struck ones, and minimal fade on the longer clubs when not quite timed right. I even saw some evidence of actual backspin on a couple of occasions.
Early days yet, but they certainly feel good to me, and the look is great.
Right mate, I'm thinking the enhancement from the speed thingy in the longer irons is helpful for something you are unfamiliar with - mishits...
I have them. Great clubs. Minimal offset, good lines and a bit of help. Cast, but if you are good enough to play blades, then get blades. And get on a tour.
I replaced 21 year old Big Bertha X12s with these and lost two balls first time out. Why? Because they are far longer and I hit them well past where I'd planned. The feel great when you catch them, they instill confidence when you addresses the ball and they go pretty straight no matter where you strike the face. I just need to work out my yardages. Verdict.....I love them.
I have these irons had them fit they are fantastic
Personally, my fitting numbers were slightly better without the speed pocket. That is, higher launching (difference in loft might account for this) and touch faster ball speed. Therefore, I purchased the Rocketbladez HL instead of the regular Rocketbladez. TM was the clear winner for me over all major brands. Gaming them six weeks now and improving every round. YMMV
Great videos mark keep them up. I have these irons and they are not forged. But I find that the speed pocket does help me a bit with the longer irons, but feel wise not much. Could you test them agains the bio cell + and ap2 because i am tempted to trade them in for the either one. the feel on the cobra's and ap2 are better than the cb's and the bio cell + are cheaper as well. Also the ap2's and bio cell + have more traditionall lofts and not cranked up like the cb.
I don't have a low enough Handicap for these, but the SLDR irons look like they might be a better fit. Any chance of reviewing those Mark?
Could you do Adams Xtd range against Tm range of offerings? Maybe some tape could help finding other parts of the face :)
Hey guys I have a 4 handicap and I am still using my R7 tp irons. I really like them but think it's time to move on. Would love anything similar to the R7 tp's, I like TaylorMade and Mizuno. Any recommendations?
I wanna say that only the whole blade set and the 8-PW in the MC version are forged, but like you said Taylormade's website doesn't specify for certain.
5 iron loft on CB is 24.5 degrees; MP64 five iron is 27 degrees. There is your speed pocket
well the speed pocket is interesting when you don't find the center of the face each time, helps reducing the dispersion in distance, I guess that if you have the same loft on your CB and MP64 and strike it perfectly, you would barely see difference distancewise, but strike both from the heel or toe, I guess that the CB will go further
How do these compare with the R11 irons I have please Mark?
They're nice looking clubs, I'd like to give them a go
Still using my rac mb tp... Might have to have a look at the shiny new ones :P
you might want to. yer rac's are now non-conforming.
Not in focus mark, I'll stick to my ap2's, these cb's wouldn't fill me with confidence head too small and the last set of clubs I had with a lot of off set I threw in the lake.
5i with 16° launch is super high (for professionals!)
5i with 3400 spin is super low, even with the prov1X
are you sure you are getting the ballflight you want to have? that looks like a random amateur scooped (not enough shaft lean) ballflight with a flying high trajectory.
regular 7i is launched at around 13-17 (17 is really max, for high trajectories). no professional launching it higher, so for a 5i you can discount ca. 4 degrees on both ends as a launch-angle. and then with more spin, you get the same height and a better landing angle.
cheers
Can you please test the new Adams XTD irons?
i tested these and i like them alot.
Guy´s the CB has full cast heads. The MC 3-7 irons are cast and 8-PW are forged.
The MB is full forged and has no speedpocket.
Just a theory but maybe the speed pocket helps give some extra yardage without having to make the club real chunky
Great review!
It seems that your spin is quite low with the CB which is interesting for me
Sldr irons out soon
Hi everyone, I'm just getting into golf and looking to buy a set of clubs does it really matter what your handicap is to what clubs you buy? Surely if you buy a set of clubs and stick with them you will eventually get use to them and improve with them? Can anyone shed some light on this please? Like I said I'm new to golf so go easy haha!
Like you said, no matter what clubs you buy, you'll get used to them eventually. However, for a beginner, it would probably be best that you get started with more forgiving clubs. This means cast-iron cavity backs over forged blades, and don't break the bank on your first purchase. As for drivers and woods, just buy what feels comfortable.
As a rule of thumb... Cavity back irons help the less skilled player, where blade style irons are typically used for higher skilled players. Cavity back irons are much generally much easier to hit and would be the ones most golfers would recommend for a beginner.
Love your reviews Mark but seriously "you can't feel anything" through the hands? Really?....
Agreed the sound of impact may influence feel slightly but the hands 100% do feel the quality of strike.
You mean to say when you completely toe a blade it sounds bad but you don't feel it in the hands?? Hmm.
I'd be willing to bet if you wore ear plugs/defenders and hit a few you'd know if you struck it well.
Sorry but you keep mentioning this & it's starting to bug me... Haha ;-) keep up the good work!
Still not sure about feel just being sound... A hit from the toe feels like theres a lot more vibration than just sound imo.
Completely agree with you on this.
Sound is vibration
Trev D Exactly, I think that part gets missed in all this talk of feel being an illusion. Feel is vibration, sound is vibration... In the end the experience of feel is the frequency of that vibration picked up through multiple senses...Sound and touch. Feel's real baby.
Exactly. I'm pretty sure a mis hit blade feeling isn't just sound...
None of the CB's are forged. Only MB's and 8-PW of MC's.
you don't think you can actually feel any difference between forged and cast? perceived difference in feel is just based on sound? interesting. any deaf golfers out there got an opinion? it's an interesting one.
the big move from TM to kill off the adamsgolf brand! damn them!
I don't think they killed it off... It is still going strong, but taylormade owns it.
i dunno - you see the irons they brought out for 2014, the xtd? just a simple game improvement iron. the 'CB' range was an adamsgolf line that was really awesome. by carving the best tech out of adamsgolf, they are effectively killing the brand. imo
Hey Mark! I bet I can beat you in a 9 hole course!!!
i don't mind taylor made having so much choice but they don't even explain who should be using their irons on their own website. If it wasn't for you guys be impossible.