i've grown up with mizuno irons as well, played 18 holes with Titliest AP2's a few weeks back to see if i liked them soon to find out i dont. so priced up some Mizuno JPX's. for me growing up with mizuno irons theres nothing better. keep up the good mark your videos are helping my game dramatically. cheers
Hi Mark I did this comparison yesterday on a 6 iron, and Liked both clubs felt the Mizuno is less forgiving but felt I could shape shots with it and looks good for a forged club. TM CB was keeping me more on line, and seem to give me something back if i hit it low on the face, of late I am Pulling a few shots and find myself coming inside a bit but when struck sweetly they both performed the same.
totally agree about looks and having a favourite or preferred brand. I play Wilson staff FG V2 based on how they perform but also I love how they look and I have always used Wilson from my very first set as a junior
Mark, I almost bought JPX-825 because of your reviews. I ended up with Adams MB2 5-GW and MP Fli Hi 3 and 4 irons. I hit out the center more with the smaller muscle backs but need extra help in the low clubs. Try MP-54 vs. EZ with scoring irons on the course. Thanks for the channel!
I'm looking to get fitted for MP 54s as a Christmas present to myself,but I am not sure if they are a comedown from my current set.Should I go for the MP-4s instead?Just to brag.I play Mizuno MP-29s I got off ebay for $250.People gush about them,saying they are the greatest irons Mizuno has made.I recently picked up golf after a brief foray 20 years ago.I am a high handicapper,(I assume as I have no official handicap).After 3 months of practice I can hit the Mp 29s fine.Don't assume that blades are only for experts,if I can hit them so can you.The sound is awesome when you middle the ball.Nothing swells one's head more than people saying "Wow,blades.How do hit that 3 iron?".Up to say a 5 iron,after some tips from my local driving range pro,I am within 3 metres of the target pins.Apparently my grip was too strong.
Haha, I was just deciding between he the 54 and the TP CB. I also chose the 54 based on the looks and how much softer it felt than the Taylormades. Awesome set of clubs.
I am a highish handicapper, and recently checked the lofts and lengths of my 1 year old rbz irons against my 13 year old mizuno mp 33s. The rbz 5 iron is between the 4 and 3 mp 33 iron. However, I hit the mp 33 4 iron a bit further than the rbz 5 iron. So the conclusion is, the mps hit the ball further all things being equal. As i hit the mps I had to improve my strike quite a bit, but after a while I got the hang of it again. So my conclusion is, blades improve your swing, and so called "helpful" clubs actually degrade your swing. If you go back to mizuno blades, it might actually tighten up your swing, Mark.
I went from Ping G15's (my first set of clubs) to MP 54 & 4's. They have improved my game no end. If you want to improve your game and you play/practice enough. Compact heads and no offset are the way to go. If you are not playing at least every other week they could be a nightmare.
Probably worth pointing out the loft on the 54 6 iron is 30 whereas that 5 iron is 24.5 degrees. Shame it was a comparison to the TP MC irons as those lofts are almost identical.
Owned a set of CBs for 2 seasons now. Long irons are great but 8, 9 PW occasionally come out too hot and go too far especially when you hit them higher on the face. They also get in the air quickly so difficult to control flight. Anyway its 2017 now so maybe time to try mp25s
Great stuff, for me, totally unbiased. Yes, you like Mizuno, but that doesn't make it a bad review. You can like strawberry ice cream and still give a review on vanilla even if strawberry is your favourite!!
I game MP54's and I'm a 27 handicapper. #itsallaboutthestrike I wanted a club I could "grow in to" and there is not a club, in my opinion better than the MP54 ;-)
I have MPH-4 3 iron MP54 7 - 4 iron and MP4 8 - PW and I play off 24 (was off 26 and got cut soon after gaming them) I'm aiming to be off 18 before winter really kicks in. The BS about high handicappers needing GI clubs is nonsense and you are absolutely correct #itsallaboutthestrike
Hi Mark, Great videos, although i want more cours vlogs but i guess it just can´t be all fun and games ;) To the point, what happens if you compare these two clubs but with same shafts? I just did a custom fitting on a set of MP-54´s and i tried different shafts. The DG S300 gave me a launch angle of 14.8 and 5200 RPM spinrate, then i tried them with KBS Tour S and got to launch angle 16 and 6000 RPM spinrate. And since the Dynamic gold is standard for MP-54 and KBS Tour is standard for TM CB Irons, would this not affect the test when you are comparing two heads with such different shafts? For instance that the MP-54´s would ballon for you with KBS or that the CB irons would fly alot lower with DG shafts? Thanks for all the great videos!
Was looking at changing from my aging MP57's and possibly going down the 54's route, however after testing them like for like I felt and found no difference at all. Justify the expense........ Sorry Mizuno,for me they don't look nice enough and I am an avid mizuno iron fan. Good review though Mark.
Hi Elaine, i'm no pro, but if you are on a down slope make sure your weight is more on your left side (assuming you are right handed) and more on your right side for up slopes. hope this helps! cheers
Elaine Swatton Not trying to speak for MC sure he'll give you some sound advice. Generally you want to align your shoulders with the slope if uphill or downhill & concentrate os smooth swing in balance, any kind of slope keeping you balance is really important. If ball below feet ball more likely to go to the right (RH Golfer) balance again key may need to feel a little more weight on the heels. Ball above feet ball more likely to go to the left for RH, helps if you choke down on the grip a little, feeling you keep weight into the balls of the feet more to keep your balance.
They are position indicators for the GC2-HMT (Head Measurement Technology) launch monitor that mark uses. The HMT uses a camera based system and these little stickers are reference points on the club face that it uses to capture data points.
Jurjen van der Noll So the GC2 itself doesnt need the stickers, the HMT additional part of the system does need them. I assume that mark doesnt bother with the stickers on clubs that he may not be keeping? And only uses the GC2 part of the launch monitor.
I really need new irons, mine are old and junk, im a single digit handicap I shot under par a couple of times, I really want the nike vr pro blades, but I don't have a any money because im 13, I wish I just 200 dollars that would be nice.
Mark, could you please stop repeating the "buy in" stuff, when talking about the Speed pocket on the Taylor Made. You are a reviewer, whether we(the consumer) buys in to it or not is irrelevant. If YOU feel like it makes no difference, then tell us... That's why we watch your videos. Thanks for the videos, keep getting stuck in :)
i've grown up with mizuno irons as well, played 18 holes with Titliest AP2's a few weeks back to see if i liked them soon to find out i dont. so priced up some Mizuno JPX's. for me growing up with mizuno irons theres nothing better. keep up the good mark your videos are helping my game dramatically. cheers
I've heard a lot of good things about them. Just good honest clubs aren't they. My first set were mx-19's. still got them now but not using them
I've been playing the MP 54's for the last year. I do not regret that purchase whatsoever. Love the running bird!
I demoed the Mizuno and loved it. It's soft and subble but I just hit so clean with it.
Hi Mark
I did this comparison yesterday on a 6 iron, and Liked both clubs felt the Mizuno is less forgiving but felt I could shape shots with it and looks good for a forged club. TM CB was keeping me more on line, and seem to give me something back if i hit it low on the face, of late I am Pulling a few shots and find myself coming inside a bit but when struck sweetly they both performed the same.
totally agree about looks and having a favourite or preferred brand. I play Wilson staff FG V2 based on how they perform but also I love how they look and I have always used Wilson from my very first set as a junior
Mark, I almost bought JPX-825 because of your reviews. I ended up with Adams MB2 5-GW and MP Fli Hi 3 and 4 irons. I hit out the center more with the smaller muscle backs but need extra help in the low clubs. Try MP-54 vs. EZ with scoring irons on the course. Thanks for the channel!
I'm looking to get fitted for MP 54s as a Christmas present to myself,but I am not sure if they are a comedown from my current set.Should I go for the MP-4s instead?Just to brag.I play Mizuno MP-29s I got off ebay for $250.People gush about them,saying they are the greatest irons Mizuno has made.I recently picked up golf after a brief foray 20 years ago.I am a high handicapper,(I assume as I have no official handicap).After 3 months of practice I can hit the Mp 29s fine.Don't assume that blades are only for experts,if I can hit them so can you.The sound is awesome when you middle the ball.Nothing swells one's head more than people saying "Wow,blades.How do hit that 3 iron?".Up to say a 5 iron,after some tips from my local driving range pro,I am within 3 metres of the target pins.Apparently my grip was too strong.
Haha, I was just deciding between he the 54 and the TP CB. I also chose the 54 based on the looks and how much softer it felt than the Taylormades. Awesome set of clubs.
Mark, just switch back to the MP's. You know you want to!
I am a highish handicapper, and recently checked the lofts and lengths of my 1 year old rbz irons against my 13 year old mizuno mp 33s. The rbz 5 iron is between the 4 and 3 mp 33 iron. However, I hit the mp 33 4 iron a bit further than the rbz 5 iron. So the conclusion is, the mps hit the ball further all things being equal. As i hit the mps I had to improve my strike quite a bit, but after a while I got the hang of it again. So my conclusion is, blades improve your swing, and so called "helpful" clubs actually degrade your swing. If you go back to mizuno blades, it might actually tighten up your swing, Mark.
I went from Ping G15's (my first set of clubs) to MP 54 & 4's. They have improved my game no end. If you want to improve your game and you play/practice enough. Compact heads and no offset are the way to go. If you are not playing at least every other week they could be a nightmare.
I would love to see you hit the Adams XTD CC irons.
Probably worth pointing out the loft on the 54 6 iron is 30 whereas that 5 iron is 24.5 degrees. Shame it was a comparison to the TP MC irons as those lofts are almost identical.
Owned a set of CBs for 2 seasons now. Long irons are great but 8, 9 PW occasionally come out too hot and go too far especially when you hit them higher on the face. They also get in the air quickly so difficult to control flight. Anyway its 2017 now so maybe time to try mp25s
love my MP 54's!
Great stuff, for me, totally unbiased. Yes, you like Mizuno, but that doesn't make it a bad review. You can like strawberry ice cream and still give a review on vanilla even if strawberry is your favourite!!
Bit off topic but could you possibly review the Adams Idea irons???
I game MP54's and I'm a 27 handicapper. #itsallaboutthestrike
I wanted a club I could "grow in to" and there is not a club, in my opinion better than the MP54 ;-)
I have MPH-4 3 iron MP54 7 - 4 iron and MP4 8 - PW and I play off 24 (was off 26 and got cut soon after gaming them) I'm aiming to be off 18 before winter really kicks in.
The BS about high handicappers needing GI clubs is nonsense and you are absolutely correct #itsallaboutthestrike
Hi mark can you do a video on the taylormade rocket bladez tour and the new tour preferred mc's?
Hi Mark,
Great videos, although i want more cours vlogs but i guess it just can´t be all fun and games ;)
To the point, what happens if you compare these two clubs but with same shafts? I just did a custom fitting on a set of MP-54´s and i tried different shafts. The DG S300 gave me a launch angle of 14.8 and 5200 RPM spinrate, then i tried them with KBS Tour S and got to launch angle 16 and 6000 RPM spinrate. And since the Dynamic gold is standard for MP-54 and KBS Tour is standard for TM CB Irons, would this not affect the test when you are comparing two heads with such different shafts? For instance that the MP-54´s would ballon for you with KBS or that the CB irons would fly alot lower with DG shafts?
Thanks for all the great videos!
The CB's are actually cast throughout the set.
you wouldn't know it based on feel!
MARK - COULD YOU DO A REVIEW ON THE BIO CELL PRO DRIVER?
Mark how is it a fair test using a taylormade 5 iron and a mizuno 6 iron?
TaylorMade makes you feel there is a little bit more "tech" in there. It makes you feel "big" contributions thorough out the whole assortment.
Was looking at changing from my aging MP57's and possibly going down the 54's route, however after testing them like for like I felt and found no difference at all. Justify the expense........ Sorry Mizuno,for me they don't look nice enough and I am an avid mizuno iron fan. Good review though Mark.
it's is a ko in the first round winner mp54
Hi Mark I struggle to get a good strike off slopes. Are there any tips you could give me to improve this.
Hi Elaine, i'm no pro, but if you are on a down slope make sure your weight is more on your left side (assuming you are right handed) and more on your right side for up slopes. hope this helps! cheers
Elaine Swatton Not trying to speak for MC sure he'll give you some sound advice. Generally you want to align your shoulders with the slope if uphill or downhill & concentrate os smooth swing in balance, any kind of slope keeping you balance is really important. If ball below feet ball more likely to go to the right (RH Golfer) balance again key may need to feel a little more weight on the heels. Ball above feet ball more likely to go to the left for RH, helps if you choke down on the grip a little, feeling you keep weight into the balls of the feet more to keep your balance.
As someone who plays MP54s I so want you to put them back in the bag - go on, you know you want to! I'm off 11, you will murder them...
Yep.
Lol, the replay at 4:40 is not from the shot he just hit. Did anyone else notice that?
LOL
What are the little silver circular stickers? Strike markers or something?
Iggy Iggles Explain, please! I've seen it on more of his clubs, but why are they not on the CB's?
They are position indicators for the GC2-HMT (Head Measurement Technology) launch monitor that mark uses. The HMT uses a camera based system and these little stickers are reference points on the club face that it uses to capture data points.
Thx for your answer!
But why aren't they on the CB's then? Mark just not interested in the CB's data?
marXman9573 Interesting! Thanks.
Jurjen van der Noll So the GC2 itself doesnt need the stickers, the HMT additional part of the system does need them. I assume that mark doesnt bother with the stickers on clubs that he may not be keeping? And only uses the GC2 part of the launch monitor.
taylormade ftw 4 me!
I've been golfing NOT even a year i wanna send you a video so you can help me and give me tips but where do i send the video to?
I really need new irons, mine are old and junk, im a single digit handicap I shot under par a couple of times, I really want the nike vr pro blades, but I don't have a any money because im 13, I wish I just 200 dollars that would be nice.
what kind of shoes are those??
Ashworth Cardiff ADC - he sold his soul to taylormade
Mark, could you please stop repeating the "buy in" stuff, when talking about the Speed pocket on the Taylor Made. You are a reviewer, whether we(the consumer) buys in to it or not is irrelevant. If YOU feel like it makes no difference, then tell us... That's why we watch your videos. Thanks for the videos, keep getting stuck in :)
taylormade wins Mark just admit it :D