In principle , I always want to get spruce tops… but when I close my eyes and listen to the notes… the honey enveloped notes of the cedar always get me , I consistently love the sound the cedar makes. That’s the sound I want to accompany me when I am alone in the evenings and playing by myself. Cedar top is so soothing. I think if I am going to have just one guitar , it’s pretty much going to be the F7 Paco.
I have the C7 cedar and the sound is so sweet and deep at the same time; I also have a C10 spruce. But the cedar sound is the most touching as you feel the resonance.
Feb of 2023 Yamaha bought Cordoba guitars. I love the sound they produce and look forward to owning one in the near future. I think your channel is great and appreciate your talent.
My untrained ears says C7 because the richness of the sound is very warm almost romantic, actually it sounds romantic. The F7 is also rich but it doesnt have the same ring to the ear compared to the C7 but it looks comfy to play. Thank you for the comparison!
Your videos and descriptions you give are so much more usefull and detailed than many other videos I've watched. Also you played one of Bach's pieces wich I can play too and gave me a great idea of how their sound is. Keep posting these great videos, sir🙏🏻
You are right ... the C7 does sound a bit richer. I think this is due to the fact that the body is a bit deeper on the C7. You've got a good ear there :-) Thank you for watching.
One mark of a fine guitarist is that they can make a modest instrument sound like a professional-grade one. You are certainly a fine guitarist, Florentin.
I've had the Paco model for years. It sounds and plays fantastic, much better option than the C7. I was immediately convinced when I tried both of them.
Magnificent work my friend Florentin. You are a great expert on the subject. It gives me great pleasure to greet you again my friend. Best regards. 🙂💯👏👏👏🎶👍
Do you find it easier to play since the string height is about the same all the way down the neck? Any buzzing issues when fretting close to the body? Since the body is a bit thinner, do you notice it and does it make playing easier?
Hello Florentin you present really good and sensible comparison videos + reviews here thank you, if I'd want a Flamenco spruce lively guitar for around 3-400 € / $ budget what would be your best recommendation? Cheers from Sweden ;-)
The C7 seems to have more low end. Id say because because of the deeper body. Also, more high end because of the spruce as opposed to cedar. Many will prefer that. It sounds richer (and louder) than the Paco. It might be that both lows and highs pop out more in the recording than in real life. As the Paco is also quieter it might just be that on its own it is likely to be very pleasant as an allrounder..
The F7 Paco appears to have a bigger body than the C7, so a smaller player such as your students may prefer the C7. but, they can test both out to determine which feels better for them. what's interesting is that either can play flamenco or classical, they're almost interchangeable. Curious is whether the strings could get changed to a different brand. But i suspect that all six strings should be the same brand........
The difference is more noticeable in person. Basically, the C7 has a bigger sound because of the deeper body and the higher action. Thanks for watching.
You certainly can if you want to. You’ll have to adjust your right hand a bit, but it can work. And, if you ever switch to a classical model, you’ll notice a bit of difference in the left hand.
So what is the height of the strings at 12º fret low E on that Cordoba ? the neck is straight ? I'm used to buying flamenco guitars for up to 500€ and they always come with a high action, they write low action on their description, I read that in the 19th century there were Ramirez flamenco guitars with 1.8mm on the 12th fret without a capo, it buzzs and it is supposed to specially for fast rhythm playing i guess. The Cordoba looks good,
Hi! Enjoyed your video very much👍👍. Could you do a comparison video of the Cordoba F7 vs a classical Cordoba model with a solid spruce top and laminated back and sides ?
I wasn’t paying attention when first listening to each (was doing school work) and the c7 sounds sooo good. The paco also sounds good but I think I’m going to go with the c7.
I like them both. Hard to pick a favorite between the two. I think you are right about better note separation on the Paco model. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have the Paco and it has a very unique way of resonating - almost like it’s amplified in a way. It his a warm, sweet tone, and is almost therapeutic to play at the end of a long day - like immersing yourself in some sort of bubble bath or something. I highly recommend it.
I should have mentioned that over time spruce topped guitars do tend to improve in sound quality. That might account for the differences comparing them new.
I know you are asking Florentin, but I have the C7 and to my ears (this is important to understand as sound is subjective) it sounds richer, fuller and warmer without losing definition and clarity in the upper register. I do prefer a more defined bottom end and the C7 has that. I tried the Paco and its a little more mid rangy (to my ears!!!) and more strident/harsh. As for comfort, to me both guitars are really comfortable, but the truss rod might be a deciding factor to accomodate the strings (as much as possible without buzzing) to your liking. For me, C7 all the way... I wouldn't say for the rest of my life since there are so many other hi end guitars to buy, but I'll own it for some time. Hope this helps. Cheers-
@@DepressedCapitalist tnx buddy for answering and taking your time to explain. You are right the C7 is reacher and have a warmer sound, but the Paco is versatile, can be played both flamingo and classic, but as you mentioned it is more harsh sounding. To mention I do play flamingo style time to time but I also love classical music, so it’s a dilemma for me to chose which one :/
@@amirtakpar9535 You are welcome. If you play or you are seriously considering Flamenco, I would consider the Paco. After all, It is good for classical guitar too. Otherwise, the C7 is a great all purpose tool. Cheers.
I don’t have them near me but I am pretty sure they are both manufactured in China. For $500-$600 one cannot expect the instrument to be made in Spain. Even Cordoba’s higher models in the Artist series are made in China. Not happy about that, but it is what it is.
I have been looking at the c5 ce and the Paco c7. What is your thoughts on the comparison of the two. I am a total beginner but am contemplating purchasing one of these.
Hi! I have a question. I like to play flamenco. but I'm a beginner. but I also play bossa nova. I want a guitar that suits both styles. as i do some shows i need an electric guitar. I looked but didn't find any electric F7s. according to my need which of the two would you recommend? Tank’s
Almost but not really. The neck build is different on these. Classical models have a built-in bow in the neck and Flamenco models are just straight. I am not a luthier, but I don’t think it’s just a truss rod matter.
The C7 is a Spruce as far as I can tell. It is a darkened Spruce, but I am almost positive it IS Spruce, especially from the way it looks at a closeup, and also from the sound and response.
@@florentintise The spruce c7 I see on most websites is really pale, white almost....really not sure...anyway, the c7 in the video sounds clearer, yet silkyer than the f7
I recently played a new inexpensive Cordoba. The fret dressing was sloppy and fit/finish seemed poor for a respectable brand. Is this typical of late, or did I play a dud/Chinese knockoff?
@@florentintise Don't know. It was 300-400 new. Maybe it was dried out from hanging on the wall for ages. The fret ends were scratching my fingers badly.
Btw I was wondering if the C7 model has an "sp" model. Sometims guitars of the same model come with other colors and I wonder if there is an sp model and does it sound more brighter than the normal C model?
Hello very good I bought a guitar cordoba c3m and c5 both I did not like it so bad with manufacturing defects is what you know a classic brand much better than that
I think it was a Spruce … way too bright a color for it to be s Cedar. Maybe in the video it looks like a Cedar. Also, the sound was way too bright for it to be a Cedar. I could be wrong, I guess. I do think it was a Spruce. Thanks for watching.
In principle , I always want to get spruce tops… but when I close my eyes and listen to the notes… the honey enveloped notes of the cedar always get me , I consistently love the sound the cedar makes. That’s the sound I want to accompany me when I am alone in the evenings and playing by myself. Cedar top is so soothing. I think if I am going to have just one guitar , it’s pretty much going to be the F7 Paco.
I have the C7 cedar and the sound is so sweet and deep at the same time; I also have a C10 spruce. But the cedar sound is the most touching as you feel the resonance.
If you always like cedar sounds why "in principle always want spruce"?
You ain't never lie my friend. Same here!
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Feb of 2023 Yamaha bought Cordoba guitars. I love the sound they produce and look forward to owning one in the near future. I think your channel is great and appreciate your talent.
Thank you for watching and thank you for your kind words.
My untrained ears says C7 because the richness of the sound is very warm almost romantic, actually it sounds romantic. The F7 is also rich but it doesnt have the same ring to the ear compared to the C7 but it looks comfy to play. Thank you for the comparison!
Same idea here😅😅😅 I like more classical warm sound, but I also care for comfort and I sometimes play flamenco too... 😅
That's what i hear as well. The first piece on the C7 made me love it. Afterwards, the Paco seemed rather flat.
Your videos and descriptions you give are so much more usefull and detailed than many other videos I've watched. Also you played one of Bach's pieces wich I can play too and gave me a great idea of how their sound is. Keep posting these great videos, sir🙏🏻
Thanks for sharing your reviews! I thought the C7 sounded a little richer and deeper but both sound great with you playing them! Blessings!
You are right ... the C7 does sound a bit richer. I think this is due to the fact that the body is a bit deeper on the C7. You've got a good ear there :-) Thank you for watching.
To my ear C7 had more character/richness, the Paco sounded rather subdued/pedestrian maybe. Sorry Paco fans!
One mark of a fine guitarist is that they can make a modest instrument sound like a professional-grade one. You are certainly a fine guitarist, Florentin.
I've had the Paco model for years. It sounds and plays fantastic, much better option than the C7. I was immediately convinced when I tried both of them.
Thank you for your comment.
Nice comparison of the Cordoba's. I can guess a F7 Paco for me because it fills my present ability. You explained this very well!
The F7 is definitely easier on the hands. I like them both and would have a hard time picking one over the other. Thanks for watching.
Great videos sir ! Thanks for these comparisons , very helpful in deciding which models to choose .
Glad you liked the video. Thank you for watching.
Saludos mi estimado Florentin, gracias por compartir tu bonito Paco Classical Flamenco
felicidades compañero, que te vaya genial.
I think F7 Paco it's good for me . Very very nice comparison 👍👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing
I think you would definitely like the F7 Paco!
Thank you for watching.
Magnificent work my friend Florentin. You are a great expert on the subject. It gives me great pleasure to greet you again my friend. Best regards. 🙂💯👏👏👏🎶👍
Good to hear from you again.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have F7 Paco it's really amazing 😍👌
Me too!
Do you find it easier to play since the string height is about the same all the way down the neck? Any buzzing issues when fretting close to the body? Since the body is a bit thinner, do you notice it and does it make playing easier?
Thanks for all that important information. Really helps to choose the right instrument.I will go for f7 paco.the sound is very nice.
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching.
Hello Florentin you present really good and sensible comparison videos + reviews here thank you, if I'd want a Flamenco spruce lively guitar for around 3-400 € / $ budget what would be your best recommendation? Cheers from Sweden ;-)
Excellent review! I like the way you gave the prices at the end. I enjoyed your playing as well!
Excellent video. Nice to hear the comparison and great playing.
Thank you for your expertise and advice. Such a sweet sound! Beautiful!
Glad you liked the sound. Thanks for watching.
The C7 seems to have more low end. Id say because because of the deeper body. Also, more high end because of the spruce as opposed to cedar. Many will prefer that. It sounds richer (and louder) than the Paco. It might be that both lows and highs pop out more in the recording than in real life. As the Paco is also quieter it might just be that on its own it is likely to be very pleasant as an allrounder..
@@MrBallynally2 Very difficult to pick between the two, so I sold both of them 😂 I did like them both.
@@florentintise😂😂
C7 all the way for me….thanks for the video, really helpful.
Thank you for watching.
The F7 Paco appears to have a bigger body than the C7, so a smaller player such as your students may prefer the C7. but, they can test both out to determine which feels better for them.
what's interesting is that either can play flamenco or classical, they're almost interchangeable. Curious is whether the strings could get changed to a different brand. But i suspect that all six strings should be the same brand........
To be honest, to my untrained ear I heard little difference. But I still enjoyed listening. 😃. God bless. 🙏🏻✝️
I am glad you enjoyed listening.
Thank you very much for watching.
Have a blessed weekend.
Hello Florentin, to be honest I couldn't tell the difference,
maybe it's just me lol
You played them both very well 👏
The difference is more noticeable in person. Basically, the C7 has a bigger sound because of the deeper body and the higher action. Thanks for watching.
Hi, fantastic comparison. Like. Happy weekend!
Glad you liked the video.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks! Would you recommend playing classical music on Flamenco Guitar for a beginner / intermediate level ?
You certainly can if you want to. You’ll have to adjust your right hand a bit, but it can work. And, if you ever switch to a classical model, you’ll notice a bit of difference in the left hand.
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Thank you for watching!
Excellent comparison and playing.
I'm sorry for my question...can you tell me what songs you played ??....congratulations for your amazing work....
The first excerpt was just an improvisation. The second was from Tarrega’s “Lagrima” and the third one was from Bach’s Bourree
They both sound identical, to my ears. I would go for the F7, because of the wood used.
The F7 is quite unique
So what is the height of the strings at 12º fret low E on that Cordoba ? the neck is straight ? I'm used to buying flamenco guitars for up to 500€ and they always come with a high action, they write low action on their description, I read that in the 19th century there were Ramirez flamenco guitars with 1.8mm on the 12th fret without a capo, it buzzs and it is supposed to specially for fast rhythm playing i guess. The Cordoba looks good,
Yes!!! You did it!!!!
Yes, I did it! 😎
@@florentintise & beautifully I might add. Thank you!
@@michaelmackenzie2569 Glad you liked it. Thank you very much.
Thank you for this great review. I want the Paco model.
6:12 vs 6:57
For a short melodic duel
Thanks a lot for the video, very well played and exposed, very very usefull )) ) ) )
Thank you for this valuable information.
Apples and oranges. Both good guitars. If you play Classical C-7 vise versa, if you're a Flamingo player...thank you for demo though! Appreciate it!!!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi! Enjoyed your video very much👍👍. Could you do a comparison video of the Cordoba F7 vs a classical Cordoba model with a solid spruce top and laminated back and sides ?
I don’t have a Cordoba F7 in my possession. That would be an interesting comparison for sure.
Could you do a comparison video of a Ferrari vs Lamborghini?
Stay natural buddy!
I wasn’t paying attention when first listening to each (was doing school work) and the c7 sounds sooo good. The paco also sounds good but I think I’m going to go with the c7.
better clarity of notes and seperation in the Paco model i think
I like them both. Hard to pick a favorite between the two. I think you are right about better note separation on the Paco model. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have the Paco and it has a very unique way of resonating - almost like it’s amplified in a way. It his a warm, sweet tone, and is almost therapeutic to play at the end of a long day - like immersing yourself in some sort of bubble bath or something. I highly recommend it.
I should have mentioned that over time spruce topped guitars do tend to improve in sound quality. That might account for the differences comparing them new.
Thank you maestro !
Both Guitars use Nylon strings which come in a variety of Types.
Nice video, if you hade to chose only one of these guitar to have it for rest of your life, which one would you chose
and why?
I know you are asking Florentin, but I have the C7 and to my ears (this is important to understand as sound is subjective) it sounds richer, fuller and warmer without losing definition and clarity in the upper register. I do prefer a more defined bottom end and the C7 has that. I tried the Paco and its a little more mid rangy (to my ears!!!) and more strident/harsh. As for comfort, to me both guitars are really comfortable, but the truss rod might be a deciding factor to accomodate the strings (as much as possible without buzzing) to your liking. For me, C7 all the way... I wouldn't say for the rest of my life since there are so many other hi end guitars to buy, but I'll own it for some time. Hope this helps. Cheers-
@@DepressedCapitalist tnx buddy for answering and taking your time to explain. You are right the C7 is reacher and have a warmer sound, but the Paco is versatile, can be played both flamingo and classic, but as you mentioned it is more harsh sounding.
To mention I do play flamingo style time to time but I also love classical music, so it’s a dilemma for me to chose which one :/
@@amirtakpar9535 You are welcome. If you play or you are seriously considering Flamenco, I would consider the Paco. After all, It is good for classical guitar too. Otherwise, the C7 is a great all purpose tool. Cheers.
Where are these particular guitars manufactured? Spain or China? This an important question for me. Thank You.
I don’t have them near me but I am pretty sure they are both manufactured in China. For $500-$600 one cannot expect the instrument to be made in Spain. Even Cordoba’s higher models in the Artist series are made in China. Not happy about that, but it is what it is.
@@florentintise Thank you for responding.
Nice presentation 👏👏👏
great info thanks fro sharing
what's the string of F7 paco ?
nice playing. The C7 has a little more body, and the F7 a midrange punch. excellent comparison.
Sorry My fingers are a little shorter than yours.Will i still be able to play the Paco Paco or should i look at the 7/8 size.
What piece(s) are you playing?
C7 sounds more deep I guess. But, F7 paco resonates somewhere. Pretty impressive.
Thanks for watching
I have been looking at the c5 ce and the Paco c7. What is your thoughts on the comparison of the two. I am a total beginner but am contemplating purchasing one of these.
The 7 series is simply superior than the 5 series. The C5CE is good because you can plug it in, but the C7, F7, and F7 Paco are awesome instruments.
@@florentintise thank you so much for your timely response. It is greatly appreciated and will definitely help in my decision.
The C7 Paco had sold shortly after your reply to my comment. I did purchase the c5-ce today. Thank you for your advice.
@@richardbarrios8132 That is awesome. Good for you 👍
Wonderful sharing. Well done. Like
Have a nice weekend.
Thank you very much.
Have a great weekend.
Hi! I have a question. I like to play flamenco. but I'm a beginner. but I also play bossa nova. I want a guitar that suits both styles. as i do some shows i need an electric guitar. I looked but didn't find any electric F7s. according to my need which of the two would you recommend? Tank’s
If you are leaning towards Flamenco, the F7 Paco is better than the C7. I believe Cordoba does have an acoustic-electric F7, but I am not sure.
@@florentintise I'm going to buy the F7. it's a beautiful guitar
@@clebercajueiro1591 I am really liking it so far. I do have the F7 Paco model though ... that is a bit different from the F7.
I want the F7 paco. however I have a concern. I can't find it in the electric version.
@@clebercajueiro1591 I don’t know if the Paco comes as an acoustic electric.
Since the C7 has a truss rod, could it be adjust to make the strings mostly parallel to the neck like the F7?
Almost but not really. The neck build is different on these. Classical models have a built-in bow in the neck and Flamenco models are just straight. I am not a luthier, but I don’t think it’s just a truss rod matter.
Great job!
Thank you very much.
Is that the c7 cedar top, or spruce ?
You don't say in the video, and they seem to have a different color
The C7 is a Spruce as far as I can tell. It is a darkened Spruce, but I am almost positive it IS Spruce, especially from the way it looks at a closeup, and also from the sound and response.
@@florentintise The spruce c7 I see on most websites is really pale, white almost....really not sure...anyway, the c7 in the video sounds clearer, yet silkyer than the f7
the paco has a louder brighter crisper sound than the classical. Not much of a dif after listening. Nice video.
I have a Cordoba F7, not F7Paco model. How do the F7 and F7 Paco compare?
I don’t have an F7, but I’ve played one before. I would say the F7 Paco is darker because of the Cedar/Rosewood combination.
@@florentintise Cordoba ad says that Paco is darker sounding, "less biting" than F7 model. Thanks you.
I recently played a new inexpensive Cordoba. The fret dressing was sloppy and fit/finish seemed poor for a respectable brand. Is this typical of late, or did I play a dud/Chinese knockoff?
Which model did you play?
@@florentintise Don't know. It was 300-400 new. Maybe it was dried out from hanging on the wall for ages. The fret ends were scratching my fingers badly.
the C7 sounds just as good as my C10 LUTHIER SERIES.
I’ve owned and played a C10 in the past. Great instrument!
Nice. What is the title of the first piece you played?
It was just something I made up for this video. Not really a piece.
@@florentintise thank you.
Very informative
Thanks for watching.
Glad you found it informative.
Right of the bat the Flamenco Guitar has a thinner body than a Classical Guitar so it's more compact.
Btw I was wondering if the C7 model has an "sp" model. Sometims guitars of the same model come with other colors and I wonder if there is an sp model and does it sound more brighter than the normal C model?
SP means spruce.
Forgive my ignorance but what do you have attached to the bridge on the cedar top flamenco guitar? Thank you, great vid.
That is a pickup that attaches to nylon string guitars without modification. Looks like a Kremona KNA NG pickup.
I think c7 has more deep sound soul at bass Wire . But when it comes to the play quality paco is easier to play . I am going to get paco ı guess
👍🏻☘️hell dear Florentin
Hello and thank you for watching.
Nice
🙏🏽
I am a flamenco player but C7 has better tone overall
Are they both made in chine?
Yes. I believe so.
Good likeee 👍👍👍 großartig.
The paco version looks much better. I wish I had enough money for that :(
The Paco was an amazing guitar. I have sold it since. Can’t have too many guitars up in here 😎
They are incredibly expensive in Turkey. It's hard to reach them.
Hello very good I bought a guitar cordoba c3m and c5 both I did not like it so bad with manufacturing defects is what you know a classic brand much better than that
the paco model sounds 3 times better and clearer
😅
Trank you… 👍🏽
You are welcome.
Thanks for watching.
ok
C7 imo
That’s a c7 cd not sp
I think it was a Spruce … way too bright a color for it to be s Cedar. Maybe in the video it looks like a Cedar. Also, the sound was way too bright for it to be a Cedar. I could be wrong, I guess. I do think it was a Spruce. Thanks for watching.
how is the action on the C7 compared to the F7 ?
The action on the C7 is a bit higher than that on the F7. The F7 is a Flamenco guitar with Classical Guitar wood accents