Best Way to Tune your Bayan - TABLA EXPLORER Kuljit Bhamra
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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Tuning your tabla Bayan to a complimentary pitch will make your tablas sound even more beautiful. In this video Kuljit Bhamra demonstrates how the sounds of the Bayan and Dayan can clash if tuned without awareness of pitch.
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As a beginner in tabla, this solved one of my most significant doubts. Thank you so much.
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The way you teach makes learning easily understandable,
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Thank you. My mission us to democratise drumming so that everyone can have an opportunity to try and play. The current practice and methodology is exclusive.
Thanks sir
Great explanation. Never really found good coverage on this topic. In the video you had both the first Dayan and Bayan tuned to F, how many octaves down was the Bayan from the Dayan?
The two drums are an octave apart. Many bayans are usually around F or G. However, the copper one in this video can go down to a C. It is not essential that the two drums are the same pitch as other - they could be tuned to a fifth or third apart and still sound complimentary. I think it's beneficial to view the bayan as a sort of bassline - especially when used in cross cultural music, but I would argue that it should be so in whatever genre the table is being played in - even Indian classical. When I perform alongside bassists in a jazz band for example, I do my best not to conflict with the counterpoint or harmony - which is very possible given that the two instruments operate in the same frequency range, . Thanks for commenting. Regards. Kuljit
Thanks Kuljit. A significant consideration: Western instruments and playing were debased away from Nature's pitch and Natural Law when 440 Hz was adapted gradually in stages, starting in 1832, and finalized by the Int'l Standards Organization (ISO). Many scientists hold that 440 Hz is harmful, and not usually found in nature, and studies have been done showing this. One of the advantages of most Indian musical instruments is that they can be tuned to any sound or note, unlike many Western instruments such as the piano, Western flute, etc. A suggestion to mention this in your video, as it is widely known in alternative culture, there are hundreds of videos on YT with 432 and/or 528 Hz, the pitches most often recommended and advocated by musicians and other experts who know about this, although there are other pitches that are also natural, such as all the pitches of the Schumann Frequency
Thank you. That's very useful to know.
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Very interesting, I never knew
Thank you for your videos.
There’s a small typo at 2:35 - “Ma” is actually the “4th” and not “3rd”.
Thank you for spotting this. I meant to say Ga!
Sir tabla is d# and wich scale in baya
Thank you so much,may I ask you if it's possible to tune a bajan one higer note?
Thank you for your question. The purpose of this video is to highlight the fact that your bayan can actually be tuned to a note of your choice. Many players that I have met over the years have not seen the value in doing this. In my experience of playing with double bassists and cellists, the issue of tuning the bayan becomes very clear as the frequencies can clash with each other.
Interesting … but then the obvious question.
Do you carry several bainya’s for a concert that requires multiple dainya’s at diff notes?
It's interesting isn't it? Carrying more than one dayan is acceptable, but more than one bayan seems ridiculous! Anyway, given that most classical recitals are in one key, a single 'correctly-tuned' bayan would be enough. Personally, I sometimes carry two with me for performances where I think it would be noticeable. Thanks for your comment and consideration.
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Is there a video where he goes through the process of tuning one? I just bought a set, and I’m kind of an idiot, so I’m stuck on “How do I put the wooden pegs under the straps of the big drum?” When I tune toms/snares/etc I check for resonance on opposing sides and adjust the screws. Do I do something like that with tablas, but with the hammer and pegs/corks?
Hello. I use a similar method. Pegs are only required on the big drum when it has been plkayed for a while and lost its original tension. Strike the drum head around the circumference and add pegs where necessary to balance the pitch. A hammer can aslo be used to tap the platted rim for fine tuning. Kuljit
@@kedamusicltd4365 Thank you! I’ve been taking lessons for 6 months, so much better at it now 👍
Kuljit, can a tabla be tuned to different pitches like a C and a D or do you need to get a separate dayan for playing in different keys? Pop music applications. Thanks!
In my experience, most Daya can be tightened to a tone higher than the 'factory preset' (unless they're already at the top of their range - E/F). Many tabla makers play safe by allowing some headroom. Lowering the pitch is usually not a problem, although more than two notes might change the tonal quality. Good questions to ask: What is the current tuning of my drum? How many straps are lifted onto the tuning chocks (4 max)? Does the head feel like it's tightened to it's limit, or is there some 'play' when pushing down on it?
Hai sir
both has to be on same scale?
same scale or pancham (5th) or madyam (3rd) if these occur in the raga you are playing. Your choice.
I do not think there is a disharmony with or in between different tones (notes) : disharmony appears only if one tone (note) is not tuned properly , play an instrument like guitar or sitar - than eventually u will notice ❤️👀 + hear what I mean
Thank you for your comment. Would you say that a C played at the same time as C# is harmonious or disharmonious?
@@kedamusicltd4365 it is literally disharmonious , but it may depend on ur cultural background , like in ragas where u may play sometimes for example upscale a c# + downscale a c , even in classical music it happens that u have a clear scale with strange nots in em
@@marineforces3214 I didn't think the example of high E and low F was jarringly discordant either. Maybe that's because one of the drums (or both) isn't producing a pure note but there's a harmonic which the ear picks up and imagines a minor chord. Or have I gone mad?