The team at Wrench Studios tell us this tune was only in development when we filmed this video, and that their M3 is now MUCH quicker! Should we get it back in for another video? Hit LIKE if you think we should!
I would also love it if he told us the speed of the cars over the line 1/4mile, 1/2 mile etc so we know if the losing car was gaining at higher speed before the line.
Of all the tuned cars he has driven until now, this was the best one as the tune works and can put that extra horsepower down on the track. That M3 is a true missile now after the tune. And holy crap that it is only 0.5 seconds slower than a 911 Turbo S!!
Thing is, the GTR Nismo is 0.3 seconds slower than the Turbo S, so as you rightly claimed, it has nothing to do with power, but rather how well that power translates to the wheels and handling.
Engineer here. Explanation below: A carbon ceramic brake would increase the stopping performance *if* the problem was to make the wheel stop rotating and steel brakes couldn't stop the rotating force. However, all brake pads and discs can in fact lock up the wheels and therefore apply maximum force to the disc. This however is not a preferred way as the wheel have more surface contact friction when rotating and not sliding. A sliding tyre has reduced grip in comparison to a rotating one. The goal is to maximise the friction between tyre and tarmac, to create the most counter power backward, thus slowing the car down. This means that tyre performance, car balance and so on have the most effect on braking performance, not the brakes. As mentioned, disc fade on track can in fact limit the brake performance as a glowing hot brake made out of steel makes it impossible to provide friction between disc and pad, therefor be the actual limiting factor. This is where carbon ceramics shine as they provide basically fade free friction performance. Best regards, and keep it up. Love the videos!
The one way I can think of for the carbon brakes themselves to effect the stopping distance on a single run like this is that if they're lighter, and therefore reducing the the amount of mass that needs to be stopped overall.
@@blazesmooth5573 but it is the craziest 4.0L V8 stock, stage 2 800hp doing 0 to 100 for 2.64s to 2.94s dry/wet., from 100 to 200 for 5.16sec exactly the same time like Bugatti Chiron
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Clearly not accurate bcuz an normal m5 comp is 10.9 11 u telling me an normal m3 comp is .2 slower yeah right I love cat what but doesn't add up what so ever and the m5cs is 10.8 10.9 so think about it
My experience with carbon ceramic brakes on an M5 is that they do give you this subjective added sense of security during normal driving altho in reality it's probably the same performance or slightly worse at lower speeds than M-performance steel brakes. One thing I did note was that the ceramics were worse right after a car wash compared to steel ones, I had to do a few quick tap braking maneuvers before hitting the road right after in order to dry the contact zone. I learned that the hard way the first time after leaving a car wash and noticing my brake pedal did almost nothing as I was approaching a stop light going 60 km/h lol Lastly, one added benefit for everyday use of ceramics besides weight saving etc, is the lack of brake dust clogging your rims. That alone makes me want ceramics only going forward.
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Ceramics last longer in general and if you ever take them to a track they practically don't fade giving you a ton of performance even in hard braking zones. Main downside to ceramics is cost of replacement and higher optimal operating temperatures meaning at high speed you need to be quite barbaric with the brakes until they start biting.
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Don’t forget that the E63s has 100 HP more than that M3 about 611 wow BMW is really doing there homework these days wow 😯 I wonder if the new 4 cylinder C63s will beat it hmm will have to wait
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I'm an engineer who's spent the last 10 years designing brake systems for race cars, hopefully I can explain braking 101 and debunk a few common myths whilst I'm at it. A couple fundamentals to start then: 1) The grip produced by a tyre is proportional to the load acting through the tyre. 2) Theoretically, the peak deceleration (and thus shortest stopping distance) is achieved when all 4 tyres are right at the limit of grip available BUT without exceeding the grip available (i.e. almost at lockup, but not quite locking up) Over a SINGLE stop a vehicles braking distance is almost always 'grip limited' (this is certainly the case for all modern cars anyway). I.e. the grip provided by the tyre is the limiting factor in stopping distance, NOT the brake pad/disc performance. In a grip limited stop, the brakes can easily overpower the available grip (i.e. cause lockup/ABS). This is because, over just one low-ish speed stop, the temperature rise in the brake components is not enough to cause brake fade, even on the OE non-upgraded brakes. Upgrading the brakes can still have a benefit over a single stop, for example: lower dust, less noise, improved modulation.... but upgraded brakes can never shorten a vehicles single stop braking distance more than its theoretical shortest braking distance, which is governed by the physical attributes of the vehicle itself. For example, here are some ways you could reduce stopping distances over a SINGLE stop: 1) Fit grippier tyres 2) Lower the cars centre of gravity (CoG) 3) Achieve a weight distribution of between 50:50 and 30:70 (front:rear). 1) Fitment of gripper tyres seems straightforward enough. 2) A lower CoG helps because it reduces the weight transfer under braking, resulting in less variance in the load acting through each tyre which consequently allows you to 'tune' the brake system to hone in better on the 'perfect' brake bias for shortest stopping distances. The 'perfect' brake bias achieved when both front and rear axles lock up simultaneously as you exceed the threshold of available grip. What you don't want is the front axle locking up much earlier than the rears, otherwise the rear tyres could be doing more work to decelerate the car faster (known as a 'front bias'). You also don't want a 'rear bias' otherwise it's like pulling the handbrake every time you brake hard.... Most cars are set up with a front biased brake system from the factory because understeer is more controllable than oversteer, but this is to the detriment of achieving shortest possible stopping distances. 3) And finally, a perfect 50:50 or even a slightly rearward weight distribution helps to minimise pitch under hard braking and keep the rear tyres from lifting off the ground, so they can do their fair share of decelerating the vehicle (this is why Porsches often do well in brake tests, the engine sitting over the rear axle enables Porsche to run a more even brake bias front:rear). Carbon ceramic brakes will very slightly reduce stopping distances over a SINGLE stop due to the lighter brake discs having less rotational inertia, however the difference will be extremely small and within the margin for error in the test (i.e. as suggested in your video, but this difference of 30cm or so could also be easily explained by difference in tyre compound/age for instance). This is due to the fact that, before the brakes can decelerate the car, first they must overcome the brake discs own rotational inertia. A lower brake disc inertia allows more work to go directly into decelerating the vehicle itself (Same effect could be achieved with fitting lightweight forged wheels for instance, which would also allow the vehicle to accelerate harder due to reducing 'drivetrain losses'). Over MULTIPLE successive stops the brakes could get hot enough that they start to fade, at which point stopping distances become 'brake limited'. The brakes can no longer overwhelm the grip from the tyres and the vehicle pushes on. At this stage the only way to reduce stopping distances is to upgrade the brake system by fitting more fade resistant pads than can cope with the high temperatures (or employ brake cooling to keep temps in check). By the way, the cause of brake fade is via a mechanism called 'pad de-gassing'. When the pad gets hot enough, the phenolic resin (think of it as the cement) that binds the friction material together begins to break down/burn. The breaking down of the phenolic resin creates a film of gas between the pad and disc. As the gas builds the pressure increases, which forces the pads away from the disc and reduces braking torque. Alas, friction scientists who are tasked with increasing pad endurance often use higher quality resins that don't de-gas until much higher temperatures. Really high end race pads don't even use phenolic resins at all, these are known as 'sintered' brake pads. In a sintered brake pad, extreme pressure/heat (over 1,200 centigrade) is used to fuse the friction material together instead of a resin. The total absence of any phenolic/organic material in the friction material means there quite literally is nothing to degrade at extreme temperatures, effectively making a brake pad that is impossible to fade (unless you exceed 1,200 C at which point the pad would melt, but trust me, the caliper/disc would melt long before 1,200 C). I love watching these Car Wow videos but I always laugh/cringe when it gets to the 'brake test'. The single stop format of the test doesn't really tell viewers anything about how 'good' a vehicles brakes are, instead it basically tells you how good the tyres are, or how well the chassis/brake balance is. An industry standard brake test for example is the 'AMS Test' which is to perform 10 stops from 60mph with the vehicle loaded up to its gross vehicle mass. The idea is the weight and repetitive stops create substantial heat energy that reveals how well braking performance is maintained during continuous high energy driving. I've done this test multiple times myself, loading vehicles up to their GVM is tricky and dangerous (we do it by using 25kg bags of metal shot) so perhaps Car Wow could simply do the test unloaded instead which would be easier? Maybe increase the starting speed to 80 or even 100mph to push energies up a bit, otherwise after 10 stops from 60mph something like a Porsche 911 Carrera won't even be breaking a sweat. Accelerating to 60mph and then slamming on the brakes is no fun, I can assure you, however it would make great clickbait if Matt chundered whilst trying ;-)
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I am really impressed with the new M3 with 4wd and the tuned monster. Bmw have increased the price of their M cars with reasonable justification ib performance. I would love to see this standard car against a standard Nissan GTR and a standard 911 992 turbo It will show how far bmw have come to bridge the supercar performance gap I also remember watching an old Clarkson video where a ferrari 360 destroyed an e49 m5. Now BMW m cars will destroy Ferrari's and lambos
11.2 for the standard car is just 2 tenths off the M5 Competition. Just, insane. Obviously the M5 would be faster in gear with its greater torque and all that, but that is not a big difference at all
It’s always been like that for factory turbocharged cars…I’m sure that part of the aftermarket tune involves increasing the amount of turbo pressure allowed…
Now do a race between the tuned M3 and an M5 Competition. Would be interesting to see the difference between 600hp I6 vs 600hp V8, also the weight difference.
As an engineer, I can confirm, the material affects the durability of the braking system. They are both 6 pistons up top and whatever pistons at the back, the disc size is the same. The difference is merely human reaction time
Just before the start of the race I looked away for a second and when I turned back I saw the standard m3 shoot off like a rocket and I nearly dropped my phone That was insane🔥🔥
@carwow Replaying the video at 0.25x at 8:52, we can see the M3 with carbon ceramics brakes before and slows ever so slightly vs. Matts M3. The slightly better stopping distance is down to driver reaction 100%
Yo Matt, vehicle dynamics engineer here. Carbon ceramics have better performance but higher operating temperatures. The ceramics will stop faster if they have been warmed up, but when they're cold, they will perform about the same as steels
I own a 2017 mustang gt pp1. It amazes me to see cars with this power and speed be so steady during hard accell that matt barely touches the wheel. When I go wot on the highway the entire car is pitched up so hard I have to seriously drive it to stay straight cause the front is so light. I could probably use some more downforce and stiffer springs. Quite amazing though, I have owned germans cars and they really figured out safe fun that america and japan hasnt quite figured out.
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Guys, all these drag races are nice and exciting, but I love more the new affordable car reviews. If anyone is reading this I would like a review on the new Fiat Panda 4X4 Cross if possible.
There possibly thousands of car channels on UA-cam all providing detailed reviews on cars. It is the jokes and laughs that keeps me watching this channel. Cheers Carwow
For the brake test: point the camera that is already at the side of the runway to the car's brake-lights and gone is the discussion about early-braking. Just observe when the lights go on.
That's all you here on the facebook M3/M4 owners group *yawn* warranty this, warranty that & the car spends 6 months locked away in the garage instead of actually enjoying the car. Each to their own I guess but my F82 is stage 2+ mapped from the moment I got it and I just enjoy the car and if something breaks then I get it fixed. 🤷🏿♂️
@@luverz6 as said in another comment, not only warranty but also registration and insurance are void on a tuned car in some countries. Fixing a car is one thing, paying all life long for an accident is another thing that I would not gamble with.
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Carbon ceramics resists heat better but might need some warming up to have the best braking performance, thats why stock brakes (same size discs and pistons) might actually stop faster when doing a sudden emergency stop. However, If the limiting factor of the breaking is the tyre or slippery surface, then it does not matter if the discs are stock or carbon ceramic.
The old F80 M3 with a stage 1 would top 500hp (also a lighter car) but traction was always an issue. The new M3 x drive is an absolute animal, able to finally put the power to the road.
I've just put my M3 comp xdrive through its running in service, so if you want to abuse her in another comparison video, PM me. It's fully spec'd. Keep these videos coming Matt us petrol heads love them! Chin Chin
10.7 vs 11.2 sec is to be expected (if not even more of a gap) with a 90 hp increase in HP. So the HP readings should be very close to correct based on both car's claimed HP. A 90 HP advantage is easily worth .5 tenth or more in the 1/4 mile. So I wouldn't be to quick to assume the tuned M3 is making has more than a 90 HP advantage. If it did, it would beat the stock M3 by a lot more than .5 tenth in the 1/4 mile. Usually (on average for most cars) a 100 hp jump in HP will equate to close to a full second decrease in the 1/4 mile, when traction is adequate for the higher HP car. Enjoyed the race and a legit performance increase with their tune.
The team at Wrench Studios tell us this tune was only in development when we filmed this video, and that their M3 is now MUCH quicker!
Should we get it back in for another video? Hit LIKE if you think we should!
Yes
Yes sir 🔥🔥
Definately
Oh yessss we already need a rematch :)
No matter how’s gonna win , it’s will be a BMW M3 💪🏽😅
Can you start showing 100-200kph times on the rolling races? Would be interesting to see what these cars are hitting!
yes, please. also a leaderboard with all quarter mile times and the 0-100 & 100-200 times. Car people love numbers!
I would also love it if he told us the speed of the cars over the line 1/4mile, 1/2 mile etc so we know if the losing car was gaining at higher speed before the line.
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Over 6 seconds maybe
@@romansenger2322 hi Roman.
Of all the tuned cars he has driven until now, this was the best one as the tune works and can put that extra horsepower down on the track. That M3 is a true missile now after the tune. And holy crap that it is only 0.5 seconds slower than a 911 Turbo S!!
Thing is, the GTR Nismo is 0.3 seconds slower than the Turbo S, so as you rightly claimed, it has nothing to do with power, but rather how well that power translates to the wheels and handling.
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@@emiliospowerballer1441 but GTR NISMO is 44kph more than Turbo S.
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm hi Tom.
@Alejandro yes. Alejandro, imagine if we have a drag race between 2019 M3 vs Razor's M3 GTR.
I'd love to see this car go up against an M5 or M8
Facts!!
Good idea!
YES
In a qtr mile the tuned m3 would be extremely close with stock m5 comp. In a roll the top end of the m5 would pull away.
would smoke both in 1/4
Should have done 2-3 braking stops in a row, to show how the ceramic brakes improved as the heat increased 🔥 Great videos 👍
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Engineer here. Explanation below:
A carbon ceramic brake would increase the stopping performance *if* the problem was to make the wheel stop rotating and steel brakes couldn't stop the rotating force.
However, all brake pads and discs can in fact lock up the wheels and therefore apply maximum force to the disc. This however is not a preferred way as the wheel have more surface contact friction when rotating and not sliding. A sliding tyre has reduced grip in comparison to a rotating one.
The goal is to maximise the friction between tyre and tarmac, to create the most counter power backward, thus slowing the car down. This means that tyre performance, car balance and so on have the most effect on braking performance, not the brakes.
As mentioned, disc fade on track can in fact limit the brake performance as a glowing hot brake made out of steel makes it impossible to provide friction between disc and pad, therefor be the actual limiting factor. This is where carbon ceramics shine as they provide basically fade free friction performance.
Best regards, and keep it up. Love the videos!
Thanks for the explanation
Yes *big brain*
This is a good explanation! Thanks!
Correct!
The one way I can think of for the carbon brakes themselves to effect the stopping distance on a single run like this is that if they're lighter, and therefore reducing the the amount of mass that needs to be stopped overall.
11.2 seconds is nutss for a standard M3 but omg that tuned one is just crazyy!!!
Only bots replied to you :(
@@lemonmaster8933 yes :(
It feels like half a year ago there weren't any bots in the comments section, what happened man
@@JohhnyG still better than those “Tesla plaid can run sub 10s” comments
@@flry7929 absolutely not
This M3 is insane. The stock one did 1/4 mile in 11.2 seconds.
It is faster than many supercars indeed.
What BMW doing these days is really crazy.
if the front was good this will be the most perfect car but even after looking very good in every single angle they flopped the front
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I love the grill now. The car looks very aggressive with it.
@@hassanger8128 You are the few that likes the grill but I don't, the front breaks many rules of the design and I just don't like it
@@lyte561 nah it’s the exact opposite, you ARE the FEW who hates it for no reason.
@@hassanger8128 yes.
I dig these types of "tuned vs. oem" races. Keep them coming, please!
The tuned M3 Competition vs the M5 CS... that's a race I'd love to see
Hmmm
m5 cs by 5 cars in a roll race
@@brantleymuse8105 600hp and weighs a shitton less
@@blazesmooth5573 but it is the craziest 4.0L V8 stock, stage 2 800hp doing 0 to 100 for 2.64s to 2.94s dry/wet., from 100 to 200 for 5.16sec exactly the same time like Bugatti Chiron
@@boostkiller 4.4L
Wow, the M3 has come so far! 11.2 quarter standard is nuts
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Clearly not accurate bcuz an normal m5 comp is 10.9 11 u telling me an normal m3 comp is .2 slower yeah right I love cat what but doesn't add up what so ever and the m5cs is 10.8 10.9 so think about it
The price has come so far too
@@darryltaylor8708 but the M5 is technically the previous gen. The upcoming M5 will sure be faster (and probably a hybrid too)
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That stage 1 tune just turned the M3 into an M5 then 😂
But lighter so quicker 😏
@@SH7SH7SH7 i bet the tuned M3 has 500 bhp.
More than M5 cs That does 10.9s
Did they specify stage 1?
@@kyblckwd246 yes sir
My experience with carbon ceramic brakes on an M5 is that they do give you this subjective added sense of security during normal driving altho in reality it's probably the same performance or slightly worse at lower speeds than M-performance steel brakes. One thing I did note was that the ceramics were worse right after a car wash compared to steel ones, I had to do a few quick tap braking maneuvers before hitting the road right after in order to dry the contact zone. I learned that the hard way the first time after leaving a car wash and noticing my brake pedal did almost nothing as I was approaching a stop light going 60 km/h lol Lastly, one added benefit for everyday use of ceramics besides weight saving etc, is the lack of brake dust clogging your rims. That alone makes me want ceramics only going forward.
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Ceramics last longer in general and if you ever take them to a track they practically don't fade giving you a ton of performance even in hard braking zones. Main downside to ceramics is cost of replacement and higher optimal operating temperatures meaning at high speed you need to be quite barbaric with the brakes until they start biting.
@@VexxedSR Yeah I know about the track benefits of ceramics, I was talking more about day to day driving and living with them.
The brake dust thing is worth it alone. I hate caked up alloys especially in summer when paintwork is pristine still but wheels are filthy.
@@alunesh12345 the Fuck
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3:00 - 3:13 Sound Check of Tuned M3
3:28 - 3:35 Sound Check of Stock M3
3:39 - 4:07 First Quarter Mile Race
4:51 - 5:14 Second Quarter Mile Race
5:35 - 5:45 Results of the Drag Race
5:45 - 6:18 Rolling Race Auto/Comfort Car setting
6:51 - 7:20 The Other Rolling Race Manual/Sport
8:25 - 8:29 - 8:52 - 9:02 Brake Test @100 MPH (The important bits only)
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The most incredible thing is that the new M3 has the same 1/4 mile time as the E63s w213
That’s absolutely sick
Don’t forget that the E63s has 100 HP more than that M3 about 611 wow BMW is really doing there homework these days wow 😯 I wonder if the new 4 cylinder C63s will beat it hmm will have to wait
Yep it’s scary what these BMWs are doing.
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E63s and C63s
@@alunesh12345 what car has he got?
10.7 for a stage 1 M3, sheesh that's fast
Quicker than the quickest time I've seen an M8 Competition do the 1/4 mile.
They have gone low 10s tune only
Matt's enthusiasm always puts a smile on my face.😂❤
He makes too much sex noises
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I'm an engineer who's spent the last 10 years designing brake systems for race cars, hopefully I can explain braking 101 and debunk a few common myths whilst I'm at it.
A couple fundamentals to start then:
1) The grip produced by a tyre is proportional to the load acting through the tyre.
2) Theoretically, the peak deceleration (and thus shortest stopping distance) is achieved when all 4 tyres are right at the limit of grip available BUT without exceeding the grip available (i.e. almost at lockup, but not quite locking up)
Over a SINGLE stop a vehicles braking distance is almost always 'grip limited' (this is certainly the case for all modern cars anyway). I.e. the grip provided by the tyre is the limiting factor in stopping distance, NOT the brake pad/disc performance. In a grip limited stop, the brakes can easily overpower the available grip (i.e. cause lockup/ABS). This is because, over just one low-ish speed stop, the temperature rise in the brake components is not enough to cause brake fade, even on the OE non-upgraded brakes.
Upgrading the brakes can still have a benefit over a single stop, for example: lower dust, less noise, improved modulation.... but upgraded brakes can never shorten a vehicles single stop braking distance more than its theoretical shortest braking distance, which is governed by the physical attributes of the vehicle itself.
For example, here are some ways you could reduce stopping distances over a SINGLE stop:
1) Fit grippier tyres
2) Lower the cars centre of gravity (CoG)
3) Achieve a weight distribution of between 50:50 and 30:70 (front:rear).
1) Fitment of gripper tyres seems straightforward enough.
2) A lower CoG helps because it reduces the weight transfer under braking, resulting in less variance in the load acting through each tyre which consequently allows you to 'tune' the brake system to hone in better on the 'perfect' brake bias for shortest stopping distances. The 'perfect' brake bias achieved when both front and rear axles lock up simultaneously as you exceed the threshold of available grip. What you don't want is the front axle locking up much earlier than the rears, otherwise the rear tyres could be doing more work to decelerate the car faster (known as a 'front bias'). You also don't want a 'rear bias' otherwise it's like pulling the handbrake every time you brake hard.... Most cars are set up with a front biased brake system from the factory because understeer is more controllable than oversteer, but this is to the detriment of achieving shortest possible stopping distances.
3) And finally, a perfect 50:50 or even a slightly rearward weight distribution helps to minimise pitch under hard braking and keep the rear tyres from lifting off the ground, so they can do their fair share of decelerating the vehicle (this is why Porsches often do well in brake tests, the engine sitting over the rear axle enables Porsche to run a more even brake bias front:rear).
Carbon ceramic brakes will very slightly reduce stopping distances over a SINGLE stop due to the lighter brake discs having less rotational inertia, however the difference will be extremely small and within the margin for error in the test (i.e. as suggested in your video, but this difference of 30cm or so could also be easily explained by difference in tyre compound/age for instance). This is due to the fact that, before the brakes can decelerate the car, first they must overcome the brake discs own rotational inertia. A lower brake disc inertia allows more work to go directly into decelerating the vehicle itself (Same effect could be achieved with fitting lightweight forged wheels for instance, which would also allow the vehicle to accelerate harder due to reducing 'drivetrain losses').
Over MULTIPLE successive stops the brakes could get hot enough that they start to fade, at which point stopping distances become 'brake limited'. The brakes can no longer overwhelm the grip from the tyres and the vehicle pushes on. At this stage the only way to reduce stopping distances is to upgrade the brake system by fitting more fade resistant pads than can cope with the high temperatures (or employ brake cooling to keep temps in check).
By the way, the cause of brake fade is via a mechanism called 'pad de-gassing'. When the pad gets hot enough, the phenolic resin (think of it as the cement) that binds the friction material together begins to break down/burn. The breaking down of the phenolic resin creates a film of gas between the pad and disc. As the gas builds the pressure increases, which forces the pads away from the disc and reduces braking torque. Alas, friction scientists who are tasked with increasing pad endurance often use higher quality resins that don't de-gas until much higher temperatures. Really high end race pads don't even use phenolic resins at all, these are known as 'sintered' brake pads. In a sintered brake pad, extreme pressure/heat (over 1,200 centigrade) is used to fuse the friction material together instead of a resin. The total absence of any phenolic/organic material in the friction material means there quite literally is nothing to degrade at extreme temperatures, effectively making a brake pad that is impossible to fade (unless you exceed 1,200 C at which point the pad would melt, but trust me, the caliper/disc would melt long before 1,200 C).
I love watching these Car Wow videos but I always laugh/cringe when it gets to the 'brake test'. The single stop format of the test doesn't really tell viewers anything about how 'good' a vehicles brakes are, instead it basically tells you how good the tyres are, or how well the chassis/brake balance is.
An industry standard brake test for example is the 'AMS Test' which is to perform 10 stops from 60mph with the vehicle loaded up to its gross vehicle mass. The idea is the weight and repetitive stops create substantial heat energy that reveals how well braking performance is maintained during continuous high energy driving. I've done this test multiple times myself, loading vehicles up to their GVM is tricky and dangerous (we do it by using 25kg bags of metal shot) so perhaps Car Wow could simply do the test unloaded instead which would be easier? Maybe increase the starting speed to 80 or even 100mph to push energies up a bit, otherwise after 10 stops from 60mph something like a Porsche 911 Carrera won't even be breaking a sweat.
Accelerating to 60mph and then slamming on the brakes is no fun, I can assure you, however it would make great clickbait if Matt chundered whilst trying ;-)
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I wanna see what would win against the new M5 and the old M5
New one lol
The M5 CS and a and old M5 that's tuned
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This is stupid new, and if tuned it depends on the tune
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The new m3 looks so good in black because it covers up the grill
Because with the black colour its huge grill is not that properly visible as against some lighter colour.
I was wondering why it looked so good.. this makes perfect sense 😂😂😂
I think it's time to get over it
its still not enough. car is hideous
The grill took that personal
It would be good to show the 0-60 times as well
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probably like low 3s
@@nikabakashvili1432 a stock x drive can hit under 3.1 so I’d assume with a perfect launch the tuned one will hit 2.8
I am really impressed with the new M3 with 4wd and the tuned monster. Bmw have increased the price of their M cars with reasonable justification ib performance. I would love to see this standard car against a standard Nissan GTR and a standard 911 992 turbo
It will show how far bmw have come to bridge the supercar performance gap
I also remember watching an old Clarkson video where a ferrari 360 destroyed an e49 m5. Now BMW m cars will destroy Ferrari's and lambos
Its killer
The new M3 is freaking fast, but with stage 1-2 is on another level!
Like the yellow paint job...I still prefer the overall looks of the previous gen..
10.7s for the 1/4 mile means that this is faster than the M5 Competition, what a thing...
M5 could accelerate faster than that.
It’s literally the same 1/4 mile as the R8. That’s nuts
11.2 for the standard car is just 2 tenths off the M5 Competition.
Just, insane.
Obviously the M5 would be faster in gear with its greater torque and all that, but that is not a big difference at all
Faster than the M5cs too
@@bafanamachika5495 M5 CS is a beast that does 10.6 actually
Whatever people think of the new design of the M3/M4 no one complains about the AMAZING performance
If It didn't have performance nobody would buy it. Ugly as hell, at least let it perform well
They only perform for a few days then they are broke all the time though
Looks are subjective. I find the new design bold and aggressive and I love it. BMW are showing a rebellious side with these designs.
@@richardlabeja Aggressive ? in the sense that it gives me bad feelings without consent ? 😮
@963 Plug Too broke? maybe not rich enough.
I'm not rich enough to buy an m4 but that doesn't mean I can't say it's ugly.
f80 ,e92 were beauties.
Outstanding. I don't wanna go through the hassle of unlocking the ECU and void my warranty, but the results are outstanding.
That 600hp snatch 🔥🔥🔥
It’s crazy how much performance boost we can get just by re-programming the ECU.
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Yes and these can go a lot quicker than this.
It is
It’s always been like that for factory turbocharged cars…I’m sure that part of the aftermarket tune involves increasing the amount of turbo pressure allowed…
1/4 mile in 11.2 s : This standard M3 is insane!
Yupp
A 10s M3 is quite something. That's supercar territory!
Indeed. 10.7 was Audi R8 Plus territory.
The numbers these xdrive M3 comps are pulling outta the box and with little mods is insane!
10.7 is good BUT the 780 HP M3 xDrive that does 9.83 is quicker then a 1000 HP M5 xDrive they had on the channel. Now that is spectacular 🤙
Where’s the vid
Is that the fastest m3 so far?
I love BMW.
Bmw loves you too bro
Impressive race! Keep up the great work, carwow 👍
This car is an absolute beast even for the standard one 😍
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That ‘you are a car person or not’ Matt face should be his new thing, pure F’ing gold ❤️
What would be really interesting to see! Stock, stage1, stage2, stage3 cars line up next to each other. Same cars, all tuned by the same company.
I've always wanted to see that. M3, S4, GTR, etc....
The colour on the tuned BMW is beautiful 🔥
It’s just black, maybe you mean the stock one?
I'd love to see more of these, stock vs tuned car, and a rough price estimate
10.7 sec quarter mile!! For an M3, honestly what are we looking at. That too a stage 1. That’s simply lovely!
Black and Yellow, such a tune. Props to the carwow production team on a great sound track
I wonder how the new c63s will play out against this new m3... plus, would like to see a a45s vs c43 coupe cuz they are really similar
I think the C63s will get absolutely smashed by any new M3 tuned or not tuned 😂
I’m a merc fan but from what I’ve seen so far the new c63 won’t come close to this. Probably 11.5 quarter mile at best
The new C Class
Hybrid 4 cylinder
🤢🤢🤮🤮
@@vajikodaudishvili4174 the C63 looked quite pedestrian for me.
@@hassanger8128 yes.
Now do a race between the tuned M3 and an M5 Competition. Would be interesting to see the difference between 600hp I6 vs 600hp V8, also the weight difference.
No match, maybe the CS but not the M5 compettion, it did the quarter mile 11s
@@cadisetramadiraizel9993 rolling race theb
Hopefully no issues with rod bearings or crank hub on the new M3/M4s, amazing platform for tuning if the engine can handle it
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Hi Rai Noor.
Seems those haven’t been issues and they are holding big power figures reliably
@@cw2840 S58 hasn't really been out long enough to experience rod bearing issues
@@DR-ld4jn S58 is forged internals I believe can hold a lot of power before experience rod bearing problems I would say
We need MPH speeds at the end of the race, that truly shows how fast a car is. Thanks Watt Matson
Matt your réactions. You're so genuine
Bmw needs to improve the designs of the cars as they are getting weird day by day, otherwise the performance is just 🔥🔥
The car looks amazing. I no longer hate the grill.
I always look forward to seeing new carwow videos, big up to the team
As an engineer, I can confirm, the material affects the durability of the braking system. They are both 6 pistons up top and whatever pistons at the back, the disc size is the same. The difference is merely human reaction time
The upcoming M3 Touring with this tune would be mental!😍
Let's this tuned M3 VS M5 Competition
10.7 is damned impressive for a stage 1 👏
Check what stage 2 can do from this car ua-cam.com/video/3gTvs6WnzKY/v-deo.html
Stage 1 with visconti have gone low 10s
Matt just went back to 1940 at 8:22
Billions of views, millions in income and still ...STILL ... uncapable to buy proper starting lights. Well done carwow, amazing job.
That black M3 Competition just looks gorgeous. I really would like to have it, even now...
That Black M3 has the Tony The Tiger Frosted Flakes interior package. Awesome!
Matt, I don't think I have ever heard you curse so much as you did in they video. WOW!!
You can definitely say that the engine at least is over engineered. To have such a leap in performance using just software ECU remapping is nuts!
you realise most engines can have a large leap in performance just using an ecu tune
Yea, but just imagine: this M3 with just a remap is as fast as an Aventador SV over a quarter mile. It’s next level.
Just before the start of the race I looked away for a second and when I turned back I saw the standard m3 shoot off like a rocket and I nearly dropped my phone
That was insane🔥🔥
no
Wrench studio is the best UK tuner by a mile. Hamid is a genius. Fastest new BMW m3 fastest rs3 and fastest m140.
@carwow Replaying the video at 0.25x at 8:52, we can see the M3 with carbon ceramics brakes before and slows ever so slightly vs. Matts M3. The slightly better stopping distance is down to driver reaction 100%
From 7:20 -7:25 is my best moment of the drag race🤣🤣🤣🤣
those S58 are something else, literally just a B58 on steroids. Can’t imagine a Stage 2 S58 on E or Race gas
Tuned M3 comp vs r8 v10 would be a interesting race :)
911 Turbo
@@borinvlogs nah the turbo is in another league... maybe the gt2 rs because it's not 4weel and often struggles with traction
@@borinvlogs Stage 2 M3 have 710HP vs Turbo S
Yo Matt, vehicle dynamics engineer here. Carbon ceramics have better performance but higher operating temperatures. The ceramics will stop faster if they have been warmed up, but when they're cold, they will perform about the same as steels
a tune that actually did something.. im used to seeing these "1200 horsepower" tunes neck and neck with their stock counterparts lol
Matt is 100% a BMW fan boy !
But owns a RS6 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ he should sell it and buy a M4 Competition Xdrive with stage 1
After watching what BMW is achieving recenly, everyone should be!
@@valentinhristov4407 he swapped his RS6 for an M3 last year.
@@richardlabeja better so
I honestly can’t think of any car that has 600 bhp and can do a sub-11 second 1/4 mile
That thing’s a beast
it didnt do sub 10
not 600hp but 640hp the 992 turbo S
@@diogosantos7046 Mat get's 10.1-10.2 every time with the Turbo S
S58 is a monster. If a simple ECU tune makes that much of a difference imagine what a fully blown engine can do
Best in the game rn, love this channel man 💪🏽
Great format. Would like to see more like this! Thank you!
Should have done a rerun since the start was a little botched and 10.7 is still impressive.
Can we see a M550i Xdrive tuned vs an M5?
There already a video of that on this channel
@@kevinpierremont9299 the one that’s is shown on this channel is stock. I’m asking to see a tuned m550i vs m5 stock to see the difference.
Please consider doing 100-200kmph time, we are really interested!!!
i love it when mat swears😂
I own a 2017 mustang gt pp1. It amazes me to see cars with this power and speed be so steady during hard accell that matt barely touches the wheel. When I go wot on the highway the entire car is pitched up so hard I have to seriously drive it to stay straight cause the front is so light. I could probably use some more downforce and stiffer springs. Quite amazing though, I have owned germans cars and they really figured out safe fun that america and japan hasnt quite figured out.
90hp difference looks crazy :o
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Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
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Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
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Guys, all these drag races are nice and exciting, but I love more the new affordable car reviews. If anyone is reading this I would like a review on the new Fiat Panda 4X4 Cross if possible.
Not available in the UK.
A BMW M5 cs with a stage 1 tune would affect Earth’s rotation so they put it on the M3…
There possibly thousands of car channels on UA-cam all providing detailed reviews on cars.
It is the jokes and laughs that keeps me watching this channel.
Cheers Carwow
For the brake test: point the camera that is already at the side of the runway to the car's brake-lights and gone is the discussion about early-braking. Just observe when the lights go on.
I’d rather pass the line a second later with my comprehensive warranty in tact.
You cant afford this kind of car if you care about warranty
@@HATBREIKID stupid comment
@@HATBREIKID ?? There are many people who want to daily a M3/M4 so the warranty/reliability does matter for the most part.
That's all you here on the facebook M3/M4 owners group *yawn* warranty this, warranty that & the car spends 6 months locked away in the garage instead of actually enjoying the car. Each to their own I guess but my F82 is stage 2+ mapped from the moment I got it and I just enjoy the car and if something breaks then I get it fixed. 🤷🏿♂️
@@luverz6 as said in another comment, not only warranty but also registration and insurance are void on a tuned car in some countries.
Fixing a car is one thing, paying all life long for an accident is another thing that I would not gamble with.
A better drag race would be between M3comp Xdrive vs rear drive tuned M3
Yupp
3:30 of waffle...
Black and and yellow🎶🎶. Matthew had so much fun in this video ey😂😂😂😂😂
@ 5:36
Mat jumping the start like a bauss. 600hp + jump = easy victory🤣
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An engine and gearbox map got my 335d GT to 60 in 3.9. it's such a good upgrade. Well worth doing to any car.
Mat is 100% a bmw fan boy. He can't hide it anymore.
The race I've been searching everywhere for, thanks alot Mat!
The Wiz Khalifa Black and Yellow reference was epic!! Carwow take a bow!
Carbon ceramics resists heat better but might need some warming up to have the best braking performance, thats why stock brakes (same size discs and pistons) might actually stop faster when doing a sudden emergency stop. However, If the limiting factor of the breaking is the tyre or slippery surface, then it does not matter if the discs are stock or carbon ceramic.
"600 horsepower snatch"😂😂😂😂 best episode ever
Now I got to find me one
The old F80 M3 with a stage 1 would top 500hp (also a lighter car) but traction was always an issue. The new M3 x drive is an absolute animal, able to finally put the power to the road.
I've just put my M3 comp xdrive through its running in service, so if you want to abuse her in another comparison video, PM me. It's fully spec'd. Keep these videos coming Matt us petrol heads love them! Chin Chin
10.7 vs 11.2 sec is to be expected (if not even more of a gap) with a 90 hp increase in HP. So the HP readings should be very close to correct based on both car's claimed HP. A 90 HP advantage is easily worth .5 tenth or more in the 1/4 mile. So I wouldn't be to quick to assume the tuned M3 is making has more than a 90 HP advantage. If it did, it would beat the stock M3 by a lot more than .5 tenth in the 1/4 mile. Usually (on average for most cars) a 100 hp jump in HP will equate to close to a full second decrease in the 1/4 mile, when traction is adequate for the higher HP car. Enjoyed the race and a legit performance increase with their tune.
Fantastic video Mat!😸