BMW M3 Competition 4WD vs 2WD Winter Test

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  • Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
  • The BMW G80 M3 Competition xDrive can switch between 4WD and 2WD, so I put this to the test in heavy winter snow. Doing launches, 0-100 km/h test, and a slippery hill start!
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    Winter tires: Michelin Pilot Alpin 5

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  • @larsen7024
    @larsen7024 8 місяців тому +181

    damn, the difference between 2 and 4wd is way bigger than expected.
    great video

    • @sebasromero2505
      @sebasromero2505 8 місяців тому +7

      In snow is like day and night, but in great conditions is not that different.

    • @alf3071
      @alf3071 8 місяців тому +2

      because there is little weight on the back wheels I think

    • @IV-A
      @IV-A 8 місяців тому +5

      Hes giving it full throttle without tc of course its not going to grip.
      4wd is really good, but tires make bigger difference.

    • @rangerover06sc
      @rangerover06sc 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@IV-ABut has good tires and 2WD is comparatively terrible

    • @alexstromberg7696
      @alexstromberg7696 22 дні тому

      biggset thing to remember is 4wd doesn't break you faster, so get better tires.

  • @sitahada
    @sitahada 8 місяців тому +96

    i love how bentley driver watched when u perfectly sliding

  • @BlackMight533500
    @BlackMight533500 8 місяців тому +51

    3:13 how beautiful snow flew off the wheels

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 8 місяців тому

      yeh prob damaged the rubbers on the linkages

  • @mpc007
    @mpc007 8 місяців тому +16

    So cool they finally developed a 100% switchable system.

    • @Glocktavius_the3rd
      @Glocktavius_the3rd 4 місяці тому

      This is nothing new. They’ve been having this system on American trucks for awhile now

    • @compilemarley
      @compilemarley Місяць тому

      Mercedes has it too in the 4matic system

    • @alexstromberg7696
      @alexstromberg7696 22 дні тому +3

      @@Glocktavius_the3rd not the same

    • @word8512
      @word8512 12 днів тому

      Audi has had this since the 90’s

    • @compilemarley
      @compilemarley 12 днів тому

      @@word8512 Audi can't make 100% of the power go to the rears in quattro

  • @allseasons765
    @allseasons765 8 місяців тому +28

    I am no expert but I'd try to not start with full gas on snow. Once tires start slipping they actually grip much less than when not slipping, that applies to any surface. That's why starting in 2nd gear is recommended in snowy conditions to lessen torque and decerease likelihood of tires starting to slip

    • @anno1602
      @anno1602 7 місяців тому +11

      Seriously lol, the guy in the video just floors it and wonders why 2WD doesn't get any traction...

    • @emmanuelmijares9731
      @emmanuelmijares9731 2 місяці тому

      I think you accidentally discovered the coefficient of friction 😂

    • @yungrichnbroke5199
      @yungrichnbroke5199 8 днів тому

      @@anno1602regardless it underperforms AWD lol but it’s not like 0

  • @spirikon6657
    @spirikon6657 8 місяців тому +22

    Your using waaay to much throttle for it to be a good comparison. Cool to watch you drive in the snow non the less.

  • @tremell7559
    @tremell7559 8 місяців тому +11

    Thumbs up for the effort of the cameraman!

    • @M3ANDER
      @M3ANDER 8 місяців тому

      One of his low paid employes - or why do you think he's got fingers like a piano player?

  • @faYte0607
    @faYte0607 8 місяців тому +5

    That is a beautiful color. Looks awesome in the snow!

  • @colinoxenham6124
    @colinoxenham6124 8 місяців тому +40

    Breaking news: 4wd bests 2wd in snow!
    Jokes aside, cool comparisons.

    • @alnilam8048
      @alnilam8048 8 місяців тому +2

      Where was the jokes?

    • @colinoxenham6124
      @colinoxenham6124 8 місяців тому +5

      @@alnilam8048 Sir, I was making a joke.

    • @frenek5678
      @frenek5678 8 місяців тому

      @@alnilam8048 where is the news, that 4wd is better than 2wd in snow or slippy ground ?

    • @dazauto107
      @dazauto107 7 місяців тому

      4wd gets you to the scene of your accident faster in bad conditions 🤣

    • @Matt-ji9ft
      @Matt-ji9ft 5 місяців тому

      Breaking news turning traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle isn't going to drive very well in the snow...

  • @zizoclever
    @zizoclever 8 місяців тому +4

    Finally someone tested this. Always wondered 🔥

  • @dulalg18
    @dulalg18 8 місяців тому

    Man, def one of the best video out there for Gx platforms lol

  • @vladimirgaranin9563
    @vladimirgaranin9563 8 місяців тому +9

    Where are the money from ?

  • @ilgatto7327
    @ilgatto7327 8 місяців тому +2

    The G80 M3 can do subzero temperatures as well. I drive my 2 WD G80 a couple weeks ago in temperatures of -38C with no problem at all.

  • @lmaojasey921
    @lmaojasey921 2 місяці тому

    Great video! Please do another one this winter, but try heavy braking and braking in general from 100-0km/h, etc!

  • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
    @genderlessyoutubefanperson 3 місяці тому

    How do you like those Alpin 5? I can't decide between Michelin X-Ice Snow and Michelin Alpin 5 for my 2024 X3M. I downsized from 21 OEM wheels and bought a set of OEM X5 wheels 20x9 to fit my winter tires.

  • @minigiant8998
    @minigiant8998 8 місяців тому

    i was in puerto rico last week and saw the most beautiful IOMG m3... really sparkled in the sunshine!

  • @fatbikedad384
    @fatbikedad384 8 місяців тому +1

    Cool test! The incremental gain is way bigger than what other journalists lead us to believe! I’ll not be pulling the trigger on that i4 e40 and keep my 440 x drive. Thanks!

  • @Homobikerus
    @Homobikerus 7 місяців тому

    On my F30 xDrive the traction mode also chances the launching in the snow completely. So I feel like it's not exactly a comprehensive comparison, it's not only the number of wheels that's important.
    I do love those 4wd donuts though - I remember how ecstatic I was when I learned the car can practically lock itself in the perpetual rotation around its own center axis! Awesome feeling!

  • @donnierion9347
    @donnierion9347 8 місяців тому +2

    Great comparison video. So many people say RWD is perfectly good in snow with winter tires... and it "can be" depending on the circumstances, but this really shows how superior AWD is overall. And once you mod the G8X platform, the first two gears become worthless unless it's 100 degrees out with sticky tires and you roll into the throttle.

  • @fatphoca5009
    @fatphoca5009 8 місяців тому +4

    Why would you ever spin your wheels and rev so hard in the snow anyway? At least drive normally if you want to do a test.

    • @tigri4901
      @tigri4901 8 місяців тому

      Exactly this..... Result would be so much better if throttle control was good.

  • @Chris-yt1nu
    @Chris-yt1nu 8 місяців тому

    I have an M550i with X-Drive and have never got stuck in snow. I didn't know I could switch from 2 to 4. Is X-Drive the same as 4 wheel drive? Very good video, thanks.

  • @Alpeueli
    @Alpeueli 8 місяців тому +5

    I Love my Subaru.

  • @raitpajundi556
    @raitpajundi556 8 місяців тому +2

    Pilot Alpin 5 ju lääne euroopa lamell, mis meie talves paras prügi. Miks päris talverehve ei kasuta?

    • @miikael000
      @miikael000 8 місяців тому

      Väidetavalt sellises suuruses naelrehve pole.

  • @octaviancirlig9171
    @octaviancirlig9171 Місяць тому

    Hey man, what tire sizes you run on the winter tires?

  • @henrik_lamar
    @henrik_lamar День тому

    The fact that that car with rwd on snow is 5 seconds faster from 0 to 60 than my car is on a dry road really made me realize that I have to buy a new car

  • @Buttaknife
    @Buttaknife 8 місяців тому

    I have one of these. Although I hope to never be in this situation, I'm glad it can handle it if necessary.

  • @anon1231
    @anon1231 2 місяці тому

    A mechanic told me XDrive have problems. Have you had any?

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication 8 місяців тому +1

    Have you tried the Wagon version? do you like it?

  • @andrejnaumovski8622
    @andrejnaumovski8622 8 місяців тому +2

    Were you running traction control completely off in 4WD?

    • @feignit
      @feignit 8 місяців тому

      Based off the cluster lights, it says stability control is disabled.

  • @Aizman87
    @Aizman87 8 місяців тому +5

    2wd is good enough 9 out of 10 times and it more fun to drift imo. 4wd is only for the practical needs. I have driven only rwd for 18 years now here in norway with zero problems. its more about the driver than anything. a little momentum and u get up almost anywhere you need.

    • @jessecrwn
      @jessecrwn 8 місяців тому +1

      100% agree. I am now with my rwd M140i in Lapland in Finland and I am really surprised how capable it is. I haven’t been stuck once and there is a lot of snow here. I run Hankook Icept 3 winter tyres and have a LSD.

    • @Aizman87
      @Aizman87 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jessecrwn sounds like a lot of fun👌🏻

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 8 місяців тому +2

      well the m3 xdrive can be RWD or AWD. best of both worlds.

    • @jessecrwn
      @jessecrwn 8 місяців тому

      @@minigiant8998 yes definitely!

  • @ishannage248
    @ishannage248 8 місяців тому

    would you take this or your F87 on a snowy day? But not this snowy, more like the day in the F87 video from 2 weeks ago

  • @CarsGarage
    @CarsGarage 8 місяців тому +11

    Awesome vid 😀

  • @snoransturlasson6723
    @snoransturlasson6723 День тому

    Since it's Estonia i assume studded tires?

  • @samiwasti8400
    @samiwasti8400 8 місяців тому +1

    Those tires must suck. I drove in the same amount of snow in my Michelin Pilot sport all season 4’s and they seemed just as good if not better. I also have an M3C Xdrive

  • @Matt-ji9ft
    @Matt-ji9ft 5 місяців тому

    Are we really doing this with traction control off on a 500 hp vehicle?

  • @ICEcoldNordicc
    @ICEcoldNordicc 8 місяців тому +2

    As michelin x-ice snow user the alpine 5 is horrible tyre in snow and ice

  • @adrianmurray6600
    @adrianmurray6600 8 місяців тому

    All wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. Big difference and it's important that people don't confuse the two. I see it confused the most in the UK where actual 4 wheel drive vehicles must be a rarity (other than Land Rovers, I guess.) Maybe the Brits don't do much off-roading? Because the difference is profound once the terrain gets rough.

  • @Ванек-я7п
    @Ванек-я7п 8 місяців тому +4

    Сравнительный тест хороший, но резина не подходит для такого количества снега, она больше для европейских зим

  • @CodeUnknownTV
    @CodeUnknownTV 7 місяців тому

    Ugh BMW colors are so 🔥 🔥

  • @vintagetriplex3728
    @vintagetriplex3728 8 місяців тому +1

    Cool. The real wheel drive BMW M3 has a 4wd as if it is a pick up truck. I never thought that would be in a sedan.

  • @_Philip_.
    @_Philip_. 8 місяців тому +4

    you are very smooth on the gas heheh

  • @DavidStampfer-w1e
    @DavidStampfer-w1e 8 місяців тому

    Looks like fun! I have driven RWD cars in light to moderate snow with winter tires for many years (E46 M3-> 1st gen Cadillac CTS-V-> E90 M3). Works OK much of the time but it's not ideal. I just moved to a '24 G80 M3 X-drive myself and decided not to get winter wheels and tires (est. $5000) and to drive it only when the streets are salt free. While I'm sure it would perform quite well as you've demonstrated, I have another winter vehicle that I'm more comfortable subjecting to the harsh conditions. I just want to point out that driving this car in 2WD mode for comparison doesn't necessarily equate to driving an M3-competition non-X-drive unless you are particularly careful about the traction and stability control settings which may need to be off or partially off to put it in that mode and then may compromise snow performance compared with other RWD cars.

    • @thebimmerbros
      @thebimmerbros  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comment. Nice move you made :) And you are right about the 2WD. I can't enable traction control in that mode. It's not a 100% fair comparison, but seemed like a fun video to make.
      I always wonder why don't people just buy the winter tires and swap them on your wheels? Been doing that for all my cars. Costs like $50-60 to swap all 4.

    • @DavidStampfer-w1e
      @DavidStampfer-w1e 8 місяців тому

      I've always had dedicated winter wheels + tires which I've swapped myself 12/1 and 4/1 each season (usually in a square setup 1" smaller than stock rims). For my past vehicles I've found that winter tires were not available for stock rims so there wasn't an option to just change the tires. Also, I've been told that mounting/unmounting isn't good for the tires when done repeatedly and they may scratch your rims each time they do it. I'm impressed you can get it done for that price. I've been charged $30 for each when I mount new tires. @@thebimmerbros

  • @christianbayerstein5243
    @christianbayerstein5243 8 місяців тому +2

    4 Wheel drive is a must for a 500 hp car. Anybody who orders the 2 wheel drive is ridiculous.

    • @dazauto107
      @dazauto107 7 місяців тому

      Yes, 4wd for traction. 4 season tyres for safety in winter.

  • @zhousam3540
    @zhousam3540 8 місяців тому

    0-100 2wd in full snow road and 4wd in cleaned road?

  • @wangchong4113
    @wangchong4113 7 місяців тому

    are they on winter tire?

  • @sgrulido
    @sgrulido 8 місяців тому

    in almost all parts of the world when it's winter there is no such snow so I would call it "heavy snow test" ;)

  • @andreasarras3084
    @andreasarras3084 8 місяців тому +1

    Mammutis keegi päeval mölisema ei tulnud? :D

  • @xdbxlsilvio3681
    @xdbxlsilvio3681 8 місяців тому

    stock exhaust? I just ordered my m3 last week. What Exhaust do you recommend?

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 8 місяців тому

      the m3 LCI comes out in july lol

    • @xdbxlsilvio3681
      @xdbxlsilvio3681 8 місяців тому +1

      @@minigiant8998 i know, but i like the pre LCI more.
      I already had a hard time getting to like the big screen instead of the regular tachometer and idrive screen.

    • @thebimmerbros
      @thebimmerbros  8 місяців тому +2

      Congrats :) I have the valvetronic equal lenght midpipe installed. It removed 2 cats and OPF. I daily drive this, so it can't be too crazy loud for me. No drones or annoying noises on the highway, but amazing sound on the sportiest setting.

  • @kleyton99
    @kleyton99 8 місяців тому

    Great vid! Buuuuuut, let's not pass by that very nice Bentley CGT passing by :)

  • @frederickyan
    @frederickyan 8 місяців тому

    This is expected without any suprise. But the one who get the 2wd is just for the fun side.

  • @doctor_who1
    @doctor_who1 3 місяці тому

    did you try 4WD sport?

  • @DemirMT
    @DemirMT 8 місяців тому

    New M models has changed the range , they are more capable able can do lots of things . Go on track days , drift around , do winter hillclimbs , change to 2WD or 4WD use it in winter they are crazy . new M3 Touring is also incredible saloon model doesn't have any difference while driving . comparing to G80 . M'2 G87 is also very fun in steering/size factors. Gxx Are pretty much all rounders......

  • @mob1235
    @mob1235 8 місяців тому +1

    and 4wd sport?

  • @izacah85
    @izacah85 8 місяців тому +1

    What a beautiful video!

  • @kentao4
    @kentao4 8 місяців тому

    This is the only reason I’d want and automatic m3… although I think they need a manual xdrive

  • @uwkcal
    @uwkcal 4 місяці тому

    Its a no brainer togo Awd basically. M3 competition awd ftw.. they dont make awd manuals do they

  • @franktitas7539
    @franktitas7539 8 місяців тому +1

    👍cool Video
    BMW M Forever!

  • @Vnfx
    @Vnfx 8 місяців тому

    Really good driver, and very very nice test, but i still prefer audi's quattro

  • @lastlondon
    @lastlondon 8 місяців тому

    Now try a 911 c2 in same conditions ; pretty sure it’ll match or beat the BMW’s AWD time.

  • @honza2755
    @honza2755 8 місяців тому

    Amazing video! Can you do something similar with 4WD sport?

  • @Killer315ss
    @Killer315ss 8 місяців тому

    4:15 Nice Bentley Catching

  • @marcelocastellani
    @marcelocastellani 7 місяців тому

    I guess when the car is in RWD mode the traction control action is intentionally diminished to make the car sportier. That’s the reason why BMW would put a RWD option in a AWD car, so it gets easier for you to do things like drifting. That’s why the performance in snow is so worse with RWD mode. If you want the best traction possible go for AWD.

  • @darknight_king
    @darknight_king 8 місяців тому

    wow!
    next m3 dyno 2wd, 4wd plz

  • @matthewbonciu7622
    @matthewbonciu7622 8 місяців тому

    Awesome test

  • @dutchman9775
    @dutchman9775 8 місяців тому +2

    I don’t know why anyone would buy the new M3 without AWD. It’s worth the money and help hold its resale value.

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 8 місяців тому

      b/c the stick shift only comes in RWD.

  • @hassyg4083
    @hassyg4083 8 місяців тому

    the underside of that car will be damaged from the donuts in the snow. just having snow tyres on can make a different without need for 4wd

  • @audegottoeaudegottoe363
    @audegottoeaudegottoe363 8 місяців тому

    Have à Wonderful New Year's!// thanks

  • @michawu4401
    @michawu4401 8 місяців тому

    What a great video.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @skottu
    @skottu Місяць тому

    Visit Sweden in the winter and learn from 15 years old children how to drive a rear wheel drive car on snow. 😂

  • @Michael-MiB
    @Michael-MiB 8 місяців тому

    Sehr schön! Dieses Video liefert mir den Beweis. Ich fahre mit Xdrive eben doch besser.
    Rallye-Style sieht einfach doch cooler aus.

  • @okuliarerayban9481
    @okuliarerayban9481 8 місяців тому

    Great test thanks

  • @ZKTheGreat
    @ZKTheGreat 2 місяці тому +1

    4:17 nice Bentley

  • @JustinTurnerman
    @JustinTurnerman 8 місяців тому

    Looks fun, nice ride.

  • @mikkdoo
    @mikkdoo 8 місяців тому

    Really nice!

  • @brabusizm
    @brabusizm 8 місяців тому +1

    Dude, try to very soft press on accelerate. You will impressed.

  • @R1d3rBul
    @R1d3rBul 8 місяців тому +1

    Its good, but on uphill it seems still struggling a little bit even on 4wd. The quattro it seems still better on a snow conditions in my opinion.

    • @dazauto107
      @dazauto107 7 місяців тому

      Grip comes from tyres not drive systems. You discover that, when going back down the hill.

  • @mihaiceclan9849
    @mihaiceclan9849 8 місяців тому

    How can 2WD be faster on 0 - 100 than 4WD in snowy conditions?🤔

  • @manuelpaul6824
    @manuelpaul6824 8 місяців тому

    can I please ask what the colour is

    • @thebimmerbros
      @thebimmerbros  8 місяців тому

      It's called Isle of Man Green Metallic

  • @Osajunior90
    @Osajunior90 8 місяців тому

    4W

  • @rpdrpd4153
    @rpdrpd4153 8 місяців тому

    It’s probably safe to say most people don’t drive their M3 Comps in any type of snowy weather

  • @Zixung
    @Zixung 2 місяці тому

    Awesome 🔥

  • @marcoticci
    @marcoticci 8 місяців тому

    Great video great car

  • @gabrijeldarojkovic3255
    @gabrijeldarojkovic3255 8 місяців тому +1

    Try when is ESP on

  • @BrewsAndBraaps
    @BrewsAndBraaps 8 місяців тому

    Wow, 4wd is better than 2wd when traction is limited. Amazing!

    • @dazauto107
      @dazauto107 7 місяців тому

      Obviously! And grip comes from your tyres, not your drive system. Obviously.

    • @BrewsAndBraaps
      @BrewsAndBraaps 7 місяців тому

      @@dazauto107 hard compound racing slick tires at 80psi (5.5 bar) will provide the best traction in snow and icy conditions.

  • @yarikstuntrider
    @yarikstuntrider 8 місяців тому +1

    *Good*

  • @alexeivoloshin5984
    @alexeivoloshin5984 8 місяців тому +1

    You need better tires and be easier on the gas pedal.

  • @akbar-98
    @akbar-98 8 місяців тому

    BMW FOREVER 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @HH-g80
    @HH-g80 8 місяців тому

    why tc=1?

  • @DCAKAJ
    @DCAKAJ Місяць тому

    perfect example of "money doesnt buy skills"

  • @Bozacar
    @Bozacar 8 місяців тому

    Be gentle on the gas it will grip better

  • @lorangaross6337
    @lorangaross6337 8 місяців тому +1

    Это было достаточно интересно. Спасибо.

  • @petermolnar3862
    @petermolnar3862 8 місяців тому

    The front wheel drive always better!

  • @rubenoganesyan9017
    @rubenoganesyan9017 Місяць тому

    Why didnt you try going slow 3:14

  • @oguzhanolmez8711
    @oguzhanolmez8711 8 місяців тому

    great video brother keep doin that sh

  • @lecros2485
    @lecros2485 8 місяців тому +1

    even if I really like BMW, it's ridiculous to have the choice in the vehicle between 2wd and 4wd because when you are in 4wd you no longer want to go back to 2wd. And in the turns there is almost no need to brake so you go faster by staying on the trajectory and you save fuel because in general with a 2wd you often brake like all cars when entering turns or of certain roundabouts to then reaccelerate. but be careful because on BMW there are still many problems with the xdrive. It’s still a nice video, thank you.

  • @TheSailorSat
    @TheSailorSat 8 місяців тому

    Is it summer tyres at rear? It's too bad... Micheline should sue you😂

  • @partymaniac8877
    @partymaniac8877 8 місяців тому

    M 4WD insane!

  • @TheMicky12345
    @TheMicky12345 8 місяців тому

    maybe also learn how to drive in snow ;) way to much revs, you make the wheels spin when totally not wanted, do the same test with as low revs as possible, there will still be a huge difference, but this is just showing off with sounds... I'm more of a Quattro man :) BUT great vid! and i love the sound hahaha thanx for sharing!!!

  • @em-f83
    @em-f83 8 місяців тому

    パイロットアルペンは思ったほどグリップしないというのが良く分かった。

  • @JustMartO
    @JustMartO 8 місяців тому

    amazing car