@@AlexLee360 Labour scrapped the best education system we ever had in the 60s and no Conservative ever put it back 🙄 Re Peter Hitchens on that You know a Conservative 🙄
"To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?" - Cicero "The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history" - G. Orwell "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future" - Robert A. Heinlein "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." - T. Sowell
@@AlexLee360 We don’t think that we just don’t really care about Churchill like that. Far away from what we experience on a everyday basis. We know about Churchill as a state leader and the impact he had on the UK and within the British empire of old and yes he was also a racist, but a lot people where racist in those times because during that old days of 19th and 20th century racist thing was normalized and needed to maintain a facade and false illusion of Western European superiority.
@@onlineonlineaccount2368 I completely agree with you pal. For me I appreciate that he led Britain & their empire to survival and victory, though in a way he had to do something otherwise the Nazis would have taken over at the very least. But at the same time I'm aware that he was an racist, and apparently was responsible for a famine in India. I say let's appreciate the good but also not be oblivious to the bad or at least not hide it. What makes us is all the actions we do not just the goods & evils we each individually do. 🤷🏿♂️
26 here, W Churchill goes alright. He even said something along the lines of “the fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists”. That’s aged extremely well.... smart bloke in my opinion.
@@docsavage8640 And, to be honest...what have they achieved since the end of colonisation? Only genocide, famine and corruption as far as I can see. If Black History is so important, surely it should start with a few simple truths: Like Slavery was rife in Africa long before the arrival of those wicked white men.
It’s up to parents, grand parents alike to teach our children outside school. My grand daughter lives with me, and has done for 13 years, her whole life. I admired Churchill, he was just like my grand dad. I tell her what he achieved in war time, and the fight for our freedom. The whole country was behind him. Same with Maggie. Different times, another crisis, but again, war reared it’s ugly head, and the whole country were behind another war. This history cannot be forgotten 🇬🇧👊🏻
I would like to quote extracts relating to Churchill’s humanity and greatness, from the very moving tribute paid by Clement Attlee just after Churchill’s death in 1965. He was the esteemed Labour Prime Minister, voted into power in 1945, who had worked closely with Churchill as his deputy in the wartime coalition Government: “.......I do not think everybody always recognised how tender- hearted he was. I can recall him with the tears rolling down his cheeks, talking of the horrible things perpetrated by the Nazis in Germany. I can recall, too, during the war his emotion on seeing a simple little English home wrecked by a bomb. Yes, my Lords, sympathy-and more than that: he went back, and immediately devised the War Damage Act. How characteristic! Sympathy did Page 7 not stop with emotion; it turned into action......... Then I recall the long days through the war-the long days and long nights-in which his spirit never failed; and how often he lightened our labours by that vivid humour, those wonderful remarks he would make which absolutely dissolved us all in laughter, however tired we were......and I recall, too, as the most reverend Primate has said already, that when once the enemy were beaten he had full sympathy for them. He showed that after the Boer War, and he showed it again after the First World War. He had sympathy, an incredibly wide sympathy, for ordinary people all over the world.....He saw himself there as an instrument. As an instrument for what? For freedom, for human life against tyranny. None of us can ever forget how, through all those long years, he now and again spoke exactly the phrase that crystallised the feelings of the nation. My Lords, we have lost the greatest Englishman of our time-I think the greatest citizen of the world of our time. In the course of a long, long life, he has played many parts. We may all be proud to have lived with him and, above all, to have worked with him.....” I think that says it all about Churchill and, in turn, about our education system.
Thank you so much for that, it's a long time since we heard statesman like language, we don't seem to have the capacity for it now. And it holds up the truth against the lies.
British history is the history of the world, it is vitally important. Most african history for example, is similar to life there today. Britain made the modern world, all counties & their citizens have benefitted from that advancement. No other culture has advanced the human race the way the British have done.
@@barriewilliams4526 I got where you were coming from Barrie.... Anyway the Black History Book is still one of the slimmest volumes ever printed. It's generally all about genocide and corruption.......
It's time Attenborough passed, he gas passed his use by date & is relying on British modernity to keep him alive, with a great income & on our tv screens!
I was 18 in 1968, less than 70 years after Queen Victoria (hardly a less historically significant figure than Churchill) was still on the throne. If someone had asked me then my opinion of her reign I might not have had one at all, or at best it might have been a shrug and “some good, some bad” - she was just a figure in distant history in a different kind of Britain. Asking an 18 year old today their opinion of the national leader in a war that ended 77 years ago isn’t very different. It may shock some other people, but it isn’t any more surprising that they don’t venerate a figure who, for them, is distant history any more than it was that I didn’t have any strong opinion on Victoria.
Isn't the obliteration of a person's entire legacy over one contentious issue no different to the obliteration of Alan Turing's entire legacy and contribution to the war effort over him being gay? Sometimes I feel that modern day academics have zero self-awareness.
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance wealth, a great career and purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
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Yup...all started by that wonderful chap called Blair. He realised that thick people don't question. So he dumbed down education in his "Education Education Education" mantra. (See, he even had to repeat it to make sense to the masses, who fell for it, hook line & sinker.)
Respect seems to have been lost for those that fought and died so we can be free (well in a way) As a world that has gone through two world wars we have never learned anything, we still keep doing the same pointless killing and until the feeble brain does learn the futility of it we will keep getting the same.
War , or the reasons for it, are complex and unfortunately sometimes it is necessary. Should we have not fought Adolph? Should we have imprisoned Bliar for his lies about Iraq? Grey areas abound.
My grandfather hated Churchill because of what he did after the wall street crash the British government was going to help people who had lost thier jobs and were struggling Churchill was one of many tory mps who were against any state aid he was blamed for the propersien getting voted down my grandfather lost everything as there was no work for bricklayers
However, it was him and only him that galvanised the country to stand up to Hitler… and fascism. Read the true facts in history rather than just one perspective.
There are people at my workplace in their twenties and thirties who don't know what year World War Two began (for us) and who couldn't cite the year of the Battle of Hastings. Never mind trying to discuss anything more advanced like Magna Carta or the Bill of Rights, which would be as futile as reading them a page about quantum physics in Chinese.
I was fashionably on the center left in my university days in the 70s but in those days the defining mottos we lived by were "Question Authority" and Voltaire's "I despise what you say but will defend with my life your right to say it." Now the Left having become the Authority young leftists defining mantras are "Deplatform 'Disinformation'" and "Shut Up Racist!"
How sad and how ironic that this interview has aired at the time of Remembrance! Clearly, we have forgotten the sacrifices given by so many people during the World Wars. I despair with current education eroding our wonderful country’s moral and values.
I think it's less the refusal to see history in its complexity than the profound unease of so many today to stand by any values, institutions, countries or cultures that historically have been winners or dominant, since these are perceived as NECESSARILY the oppressors and THEREFORE as bad. Had Churchill lost the war, he would probably be celebrated as a hero of the resistance fighting for the oppressed. As it is, he ended up on the winning side - to continue the horrible oppression (only an unspeakable extremist could possibly disagree) of the British Empire.
I spent a lot of time with my family, nieces and nephew going through our own history from the Grandparents and great uncles who fought in WW1 & WW2, It seems more and more these days unless we take it upon ourselves to hand down what is relative recent history the 3rd and 4th generation will become unaware. At very least understanding why 11-11 at 11:00 is so important should be written into law! They took it onboard with great interest i'm happy to report.
It is hard enough to get a job.I tell my kids to study 100% topics that help youget a job. Maths, English, science computing.History is something to study in your spare time. My mates study it more as they get older
Empire’s collapse It’s how they collapse that’s important And what happens to the core state It’s a pity Britain didn’t become like Austria after 1945 instead of trying to remain a power 1914 was the tipping point on every level and structure of our society
@@thelleftaremad7556 1914 We shouldn’t have got involved ! And to an extent 1939 too or at least not entered in 1939 But 1914 was the key It was a war centred in the Balkans between Berlin Vienna and Moscow not Belgium I’d also point out that Britain declared war in Germany twice - and first
Precisely - both WWI and WWII were bankers' wars - the UK and other countries didn't need to get involved. All the death, destruction, poverty and collapse in societal standards that followed have their roots in those conflicts.
But if you suggest that we might have been better off out of The Great War, you get smeared as an "appeaser" or a pacifist. Besides some military technological advances, Britain gained nothing from the 1914-18 war, but we certainly lost a whole generation of fine young men, whose loss I believe still has a lingering effect on our diminished gene pool.
@@thelleftaremad7556 Nope none of those ? Britain shouldn’t have gotten involved in 1914 And as for 1939 the country was not ready to fight Germany militarily It yet again tried to ride on the coat tails of the French in 1940 Please don’t high and mighty with me as the left was not keen on fighting Nazi Germany until it attacked The Soviet Union- when that happened the left got pious and joined fully in supporting war - the reason was the left had a lot of sympathy for the Soviet Union despite knowing of its track record against its own people As for my loyalty I’m for England leaving the union and readopting and remembering its own culture and society that said Union Suppressed I’d also say no 1914 no 1939 !
@@CanadianMonarchist Most wars are bankers' wars. The big private banks make huge profits out it - from effectively funding the war debt. Look into how the stock market was manipulated around the time of the Napoleonic Wars and also the WWI, and how the Federal Reserve was established around that time period.
The ‘click culture’ cannot cope with anything more complex than ‘like or dislike’. I used to ask my grandson about history as it was one of his subjects for GCSE and his comments about the content of what he was being taught was bizarre and had very little to do with British history and was far more focussed on the history of medicine.
Great point. It isn't called "dumbed-down Britain" for nothing. Stupid, self-absorbed people are easier to control, ofc, and steer towards the correct voting decision. All they need is their bread and circuses to be on tap.
The Romans seem to get off lightly compared to the British. One is reminded of the scene from "The Life of Brian" - "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
@John Burrows exactly, as if young people today in the social media age give a sh*t about Churchill which was all back in past like early 20th century. Even people born in the 60s and 70s dont care about Churchill that much.
Whenever I see these sorts of findings I immediately wonder what percentage of that age bracket is actually of native british origin. The younger you get the more Africans and Asians you get and the more likely you are to have people with attitudes that diverge from inherited tradition.
Society is definitely on the decline. Without the knowledge of history people will become vacuous & adopt views that are in the current fashion. It’s called stupid, it’s about feelings!
Starkey's problem is that he always wants to put words into other's mouths. Who is saying that imperialism is uniquely western and uniquely wicked? On the contrary, imperialism will always be resisted wherever it takes hold. Being anti imperialist, doesn't mean being anti western.
All the evidence I have seen about current history teaching goes against this view. My son's history class looked at whether Churchill's career could be considered a success or a failure. They weighed up the arguments on both sides. I was impressed. It's lazy for people of my age to write off a generation for disagreeing with your opinion.
Should teach all kids British history the foreigner's coming in need know our history which is great. British parents need to look at what whats happening in the woke anti British schools and universities and withdraw there kids. However maybe we need to segregate our kids in schools diversity not working.
Am sorry David I went through school in 1980 i was taught history and I opted to take it as an exam subject. This was all about evidence and balancing many our assignments where to look at it from each point of view . So he is wrong to say it did not work or children did not understand. All our subject where taught this way. Point counter point . So to make this wide assumption is wrong I went into teaching and I continued to teach this way every ofsted inspection I was very good or excellent and I would challenge the inspector if they made an unfounded or unfair comment. So whistle many cannot be bothered to teach there own lessons today there are still some who do not teach a preset download Google lesson
GB news this is your third presenter doing the Churchill article. Bit boring don't you think? How much respect do you have for Henry VIII or William the Conqueror? Honestly all these people are dead. Respect is irrelevant.
This country is the problem. I'm not stupid. My ideas were either stolen or buried. I don't appreciate my life being micromanaged... least of all by a society gone wrong. Churchill was chosen because they wanted him to be mocked. What's in a name? Please tell me David... you are aware of what has been going on? Prophecy... is what is going on. Calling jesus evil... as evil apparently begats evil... is absolutely shocking!!! It's a bit like Joan of arc... where is your god now Joan. Or try this... if the witch drowns... then she may not be a witch at all... if she doesn't drown... for whatever reason then she shall be tortured even more. MANTHINKING David... got us in this mess!!! Hitler is apparently the good guy... because how can the meek inherit the earth after everything MANTHINKING has accomplished??? Yes... prophecy in the wrong hands will be the death of us all. I am a BRIGHT SHINY THING... drowning in evil. I am key to your very survival. We are all being got rid of because no one is interested in doing the right things for the right reasons... and none of you apoear to know what that is. Well I do... and I am being relentlessly tortured inside the system OF SCRUTINY. The AMITYVILLE HORROR appears to be based upon a reality... as is Jaws and Amity island. The Government in ITS WISDOM has deemed me anti-establishment. Why? ...Because I'm not the stupid one
"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” - George Orwell
Well the Conservative party did nothing to reverse the failed comprehensive education system back to the grammar system
@@seanmoran2743 so the Tory’s are to blame for Blair passing school standards and framework act in 1998? Gotcha 😂😂
Fake quote, unfortunately.
@@AlexLee360 Labour scrapped the best education system we ever had in the 60s and no Conservative ever put it back 🙄
Re Peter Hitchens on that
You know a Conservative 🙄
"History is bunk": axiom of Huxley's brave new World Controller.
I'm so glad David is back. He brings history to life. His grasp on history and modern culture and politics is emence.
"To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?" - Cicero
"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history" - G. Orwell
"A generation which ignores history has no past and no future" - Robert A. Heinlein
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." - T. Sowell
Thank you 🙏
Thanks to the modern educational facilities, I’m surprised they even know who Winston Churchill was.
They’ve probably been brainwashed to think he was just some horrible racist that did nothing good for the country
@@AlexLee360 We don’t think that we just don’t really care about Churchill like that. Far away from what we experience on a everyday basis. We know about Churchill as a state leader and the impact he had on the UK and within the British empire of old and yes he was also a racist, but a lot people where racist in those times because during that old days of 19th and 20th century racist thing was normalized and needed to maintain a facade and false illusion of Western European superiority.
@@onlineonlineaccount2368 I completely agree with you pal. For me I appreciate that he led Britain & their empire to survival and victory, though in a way he had to do something otherwise the Nazis would have taken over at the very least. But at the same time I'm aware that he was an racist, and apparently was responsible for a famine in India.
I say let's appreciate the good but also not be oblivious to the bad or at least not hide it. What makes us is all the actions we do not just the goods & evils we each individually do. 🤷🏿♂️
@@Emperor-Inker Exactly sir fully agree.
It doesnt really matter it is ovet lets focus on today and gor the future
David Starkey for Prime Minister!
Good grief. They have no respect or understanding of history and how important it was and is. Our schools parents etc need to do more.
26 here, W Churchill goes alright. He even said something along the lines of “the fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists”. That’s aged extremely well.... smart bloke in my opinion.
Genuinely shocked by that stat, wtf is happening to our country
Black history is more important...
It's being taken apart .
To be clear: what black history was recorded before whites and Semites started recording it for them?
AlexLee360 The ignorance of these kids is part of the Marxist design. Poor education is championed to control these sheep.
@@docsavage8640
And, to be honest...what have they achieved since the end of colonisation?
Only genocide, famine and corruption as far as I can see.
If Black History is so important, surely it should start with a few simple truths:
Like Slavery was rife in Africa long before the arrival of those wicked white men.
It’s up to parents, grand parents alike to teach our children outside school.
My grand daughter lives with me, and has done for 13 years, her whole life.
I admired Churchill, he was just like my grand dad. I tell her what he achieved in war time, and the fight for our freedom. The whole country was behind him.
Same with Maggie. Different times, another crisis, but again, war reared it’s ugly head, and the whole country were behind another war.
This history cannot be forgotten 🇬🇧👊🏻
I agree👍
The most useful thing I learned when studying history at university is that "history is messy". It is.
And that is why we must look at all the available sources of history before coming to conclusions about people
So does that mean you shouldn't bother?
The way the UK is going, these haters will soon be crying out for another Churchill to save their skins.
Were there already!!
It will happen. But not anytime soon. It takes a hell of a lot more oppression before the spark of rebellion is lit.
"Judge not unless you be judged."
I would like to quote extracts relating to Churchill’s humanity and greatness, from the very moving tribute paid by Clement Attlee just after Churchill’s death in 1965. He was the esteemed Labour Prime Minister, voted into power in 1945, who had worked closely with Churchill as his deputy in the wartime coalition Government:
“.......I do not think everybody always recognised how tender- hearted he was. I can recall him with the tears rolling down his cheeks, talking of the horrible things perpetrated by the Nazis in Germany. I can recall, too, during the war his emotion on seeing a simple little English home wrecked by a bomb. Yes, my Lords, sympathy-and more than that: he went back, and immediately devised the War Damage Act. How characteristic! Sympathy did
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not stop with emotion; it turned into action......... Then I recall the long days through the war-the long days and long nights-in which his spirit never failed; and how often he lightened our labours by that vivid humour, those wonderful remarks he would make which absolutely dissolved us all in laughter, however tired we were......and I recall, too, as the most reverend Primate has said already, that when once the enemy were beaten he had full sympathy for them. He showed that after the Boer War, and he showed it again after the First World War. He had sympathy, an incredibly wide sympathy, for ordinary people all over the world.....He saw himself there as an instrument. As an instrument for what? For freedom, for human life against tyranny. None of us can ever forget how, through all those long years, he now and again spoke exactly the phrase that crystallised the feelings of the nation. My Lords, we have lost the greatest Englishman of our time-I think the greatest citizen of the world of our time. In the course of a long, long life, he has played many parts. We may all be proud to have lived with him and, above all, to have worked with him.....”
I think that says it all about Churchill and, in turn, about our education system.
Thank you so much for that, it's a long time since we heard statesman like language, we don't seem to have the capacity for it now. And it holds up the truth against the lies.
Yes, you are so right, thanks for the positive feedback.
British history is the history of the world, it is vitally important. Most african history for example, is similar to life there today.
Britain made the modern world, all counties & their citizens have benefitted from that advancement. No other culture has advanced the human race the way the British have done.
Churchill wasn't perfect....
Probably why he was the right man in the right place at the right time...
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Brilliant
I thought that this generation thought Churchill sold car Insurance.
Thats because 1 in 5 is a foreigner I'm sick of it
Probably 4 in 5 in Birmingham, Luton, Bradford and London.
IGNORANCE IS BLISS
That's ok, as long as they are taught "Black History"
To be clear: what black history was recorded before whites and Semites started recording it for them?
@@docsavage8640 None. It's called sarcasm 🙄
@@barriewilliams4526 I got where you were coming from Barrie....
Anyway the Black History Book is still one of the slimmest volumes ever printed.
It's generally all about genocide and corruption.......
Didn't realise they had any.
Dr David Starkey, nonsense! Dr David Sensible in my book ! What a breath of fresh air those two blokes are !
Cancel culture and wokeism interprets history far too simplistically.
hell in a handcart
This country is absolutely disgusting. Im absolutely shocked what is going on.
Blame the media and uneducated teachers.
If you don't learn about history you are sure to repeat the mistakes
It's time Attenborough passed, he gas passed his use by date & is relying on British modernity to keep him alive, with a great income & on our tv screens!
Attenborough is boring and a climate conspirator
He has had a huge role in showing people the impact of climate change, and despite his age he is still a great presenter.
@@carlgrove8793 He's boring 💤
@@kevinkenny6975 I think there are millions who would disagree with you!
Starkey speaks sense again.
If it wasn't for him and the brave men and women who gave their lives these people might not be here
Starkeys books, " Magna Carta" and " Monarchy" are beautifully written.
" power comes from the barrel of a gun" Mao TseTung.
I was 18 in 1968, less than 70 years after Queen Victoria (hardly a less historically significant figure than Churchill) was still on the throne. If someone had asked me then my opinion of her reign I might not have had one at all, or at best it might have been a shrug and “some good, some bad” - she was just a figure in distant history in a different kind of Britain. Asking an 18 year old today their opinion of the national leader in a war that ended 77 years ago isn’t very different. It may shock some other people, but it isn’t any more surprising that they don’t venerate a figure who, for them, is distant history any more than it was that I didn’t have any strong opinion on Victoria.
Isn't the obliteration of a person's entire legacy over one contentious issue no different to the obliteration of Alan Turing's entire legacy and contribution to the war effort over him being gay? Sometimes I feel that modern day academics have zero self-awareness.
If that's true, the parents are to blame more than schools are !!
More British history. Tell them what we did for the world.
This Beyond OUTRAGEOUS!! No Knowledge of English History NO IDENTITY!
That's the point.
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance wealth, a great career and purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
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Teaching of history in the UK has always been poor.
4 out of 5 ,18 to 24 year olds have no appreciation of what the wonderful, amazing previous generations did for them....
ALL PART OF THE GOV DUMBING DOWN PROCESS
Yup...all started by that wonderful chap called Blair. He realised that thick people don't question.
So he dumbed down education in his "Education Education Education" mantra.
(See, he even had to repeat it to make sense to the masses, who fell for it, hook line & sinker.)
Stupid people dependent on government handouts are easier to control. No wonder the government despises the smarter, more self-reliant middle-classes.
Probably why they voted for Boris Johnson
Churchill is hated by Australians for the disaster at Gallipoli.
Respect seems to have been lost for those that fought and died so we can be free (well in a way) As a world that has gone through two world wars we have never learned anything, we still keep doing the same pointless killing and until the feeble brain does learn the futility of it we will keep getting the same.
War , or the reasons for it, are complex and unfortunately sometimes it is necessary.
Should we have not fought Adolph? Should we have imprisoned Bliar for his lies about Iraq?
Grey areas abound.
My grandfather hated Churchill because of what he did after the wall street crash the British government was going to help people who had lost thier jobs and were struggling Churchill was one of many tory mps who were against any state aid he was blamed for the propersien getting voted down my grandfather lost everything as there was no work for bricklayers
However, it was him and only him that galvanised the country to stand up to Hitler… and fascism. Read the true facts in history rather than just one perspective.
I do feel sorry for your grandfather, but the fact remains that Churchill was a brilliant wartime leader.
To change history is a very dangerous thing! As well as not to teach TRUE history
There are people at my workplace in their twenties and thirties who don't know what year World War Two began (for us) and who couldn't cite the year of the Battle of Hastings. Never mind trying to discuss anything more advanced like Magna Carta or the Bill of Rights, which would be as futile as reading them a page about quantum physics in Chinese.
A person can be good and bad. Churchill did good things and horrific things. People should know 🌞
Totally agree. My son now 31 can see the light Young people under 30 are so easily led.
I was fashionably on the center left in my university days in the 70s but in those days the defining mottos we lived by were "Question Authority" and Voltaire's "I despise what you say but will defend with my life your right to say it." Now the Left having become the Authority young leftists defining mantras are "Deplatform 'Disinformation'" and "Shut Up Racist!"
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Churchill knew about the gas chambers! Why don't you teach that Starkey?
We have Faeces David Olusoga and his re- written history to thank for this ridiculous situation!
My young granddaughter hasn't even heard of Alfred the Great, but knows a lot of dubious "facts" about Mary Seacole. Need I say more?
How sad and how ironic that this interview has aired at the time of Remembrance! Clearly, we have forgotten the sacrifices given by so many people during the World Wars. I despair with current education eroding our wonderful country’s moral and values.
I think it's less the refusal to see history in its complexity than the profound unease of so many today to stand by any values, institutions, countries or cultures that historically have been winners or dominant, since these are perceived as NECESSARILY the oppressors and THEREFORE as bad. Had Churchill lost the war, he would probably be celebrated as a hero of the resistance fighting for the oppressed. As it is, he ended up on the winning side - to continue the horrible oppression (only an unspeakable extremist could possibly disagree) of the British Empire.
The trouble with history is that it's just one bloody thing after another.
Schools in my local now not teaching kids to say please and thank you because the migrants don't understand it.
I spent a lot of time with my family, nieces and nephew going through our own history from the Grandparents and great uncles who fought in WW1 & WW2, It seems more and more these days unless we take it upon ourselves to hand down what is relative recent history the 3rd and 4th generation will become unaware. At very least understanding why 11-11 at 11:00 is so important should be written into law!
They took it onboard with great interest i'm happy to report.
It is hard enough to get a job.I tell my kids to study 100% topics that help youget a job. Maths, English, science computing.History is something to study in your spare time. My mates study it more as they get older
We picked the wrong side in the war, that's the source of all our problems now.
There is a conservative critique of Churchill, which I have heard some young people express.
Yes, there indeed is.
What are its main criticisms?
@@goodyeoman4534 He wasn’t Conservative
@@goodyeoman4534 war blunders, involvement in ww2 ect.
Too keen on involving his country in foreign wars? Exhausting her in the process and putting her under the yoke of the US?
Empire’s collapse
It’s how they collapse that’s important
And what happens to the core state
It’s a pity Britain didn’t become like Austria after 1945 instead of trying to remain a power
1914 was the tipping point on every level and structure of our society
We should never of declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us.
@@thelleftaremad7556 1914
We shouldn’t have got involved !
And to an extent 1939 too or at least not entered in 1939
But 1914 was the key
It was a war centred in the Balkans between Berlin Vienna and Moscow not Belgium
I’d also point out that Britain declared war in Germany twice - and first
Precisely - both WWI and WWII were bankers' wars - the UK and other countries didn't need to get involved. All the death, destruction, poverty and collapse in societal standards that followed have their roots in those conflicts.
But if you suggest that we might have been better off out of The Great War, you get smeared as an "appeaser" or a pacifist. Besides some military technological advances, Britain gained nothing from the 1914-18 war, but we certainly lost a whole generation of fine young men, whose loss I believe still has a lingering effect on our diminished gene pool.
@@thelleftaremad7556 Nope none of those ?
Britain shouldn’t have gotten involved in 1914
And as for 1939 the country was not ready to fight Germany militarily
It yet again tried to ride on the coat tails of the French in 1940
Please don’t high and mighty with me as the left was not keen on fighting Nazi Germany until it attacked The Soviet Union- when that happened the left got pious and joined fully in supporting war - the reason was the left had a lot of sympathy for the Soviet Union despite knowing of its track record against its own people
As for my loyalty I’m for England leaving the union and readopting and remembering its own culture and society that said Union Suppressed
I’d also say no 1914 no 1939 !
Maybe they understand that getting yourself involved with a bankers' war isn't a great idea.
How was WWII a bankers’ war?
@@CanadianMonarchist Most wars are bankers' wars. The big private banks make huge profits out it - from effectively funding the war debt. Look into how the stock market was manipulated around the time of the Napoleonic Wars and also the WWI, and how the Federal Reserve was established around that time period.
I wonder what country history teachers think they are teaching in.
Should be taught about social media knifes drugs mental health
That's some ring he's wearing.
They only know Churchill the talking dog.
Get Peter hitchens back on!
Again we where taught about formal and informal empires.
The ‘click culture’ cannot cope with anything more complex than ‘like or dislike’. I used to ask my grandson about history as it was one of his subjects for GCSE and his comments about the content of what he was being taught was bizarre and had very little to do with British history and was far more focussed on the history of medicine.
Great point. It isn't called "dumbed-down Britain" for nothing. Stupid, self-absorbed people are easier to control, ofc, and steer towards the correct voting decision. All they need is their bread and circuses to be on tap.
The Romans seem to get off lightly compared to the British. One is reminded of the scene from "The Life of Brian" - "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
Well Churchill was in the distance past ,what do you expect ? It's hardly revelent to youngsters and issues today.
Shall we just pretend anything before the year 2000 never happened then ? What a stupid comment
Distance past?
@John Burrows exactly, as if young people today in the social media age give a sh*t about Churchill which was all back in past like early 20th century. Even people born in the 60s and 70s dont care about Churchill that much.
Revelent?
Probably a German mad his side lost
Whenever I see these sorts of findings I immediately wonder what percentage of that age bracket is actually of native british origin. The younger you get the more Africans and Asians you get and the more likely you are to have people with attitudes that diverge from inherited tradition.
Society is definitely on the decline. Without the knowledge of history people will become vacuous & adopt views that are in the current fashion. It’s called stupid, it’s about feelings!
When they are done with the Bougoirsie then they will come for the Culaks and finally the serfs. Then nothing will be left….
Starkey's problem is that he always wants to put words into other's mouths. Who is saying that imperialism is uniquely western and uniquely wicked? On the contrary, imperialism will always be resisted wherever it takes hold. Being anti imperialist, doesn't mean being anti western.
All the evidence I have seen about current history teaching goes against this view. My son's history class looked at whether Churchill's career could be considered a success or a failure. They weighed up the arguments on both sides. I was impressed. It's lazy for people of my age to write off a generation for disagreeing with your opinion.
Should teach all kids British history the foreigner's coming in need know our history which is great. British parents need to look at what whats happening in the woke anti British schools and universities and withdraw there kids. However maybe we need to segregate our kids in schools diversity not working.
Am sorry David I went through school in 1980 i was taught history and I opted to take it as an exam subject. This was all about evidence and balancing many our assignments where to look at it from each point of view .
So he is wrong to say it did not work or children did not understand. All our subject where taught this way. Point counter point .
So to make this wide assumption is wrong I went into teaching and I continued to teach this way every ofsted inspection I was very good or excellent and I would challenge the inspector if they made an unfounded or unfair comment.
So whistle many cannot be bothered to teach there own lessons today there are still some who do not teach a preset download Google lesson
What about the 9 out of 10 poor people who will freeze to death this winter ?
I wonder how many of them voted Tory?
This is all going down a very wrong road!
You aren't speaking in code... I'm actually understanding what you are saying.... continues the video
GB news this is your third presenter doing the Churchill article. Bit boring don't you think? How much respect do you have for Henry VIII or William the Conqueror? Honestly all these people are dead. Respect is irrelevant.
So David Starkey has now become a British chauvenist echochamer ?
Presumably he can spell “chauvinist echo chamber.”
He should call himself a turd polisher rather than the historian.
What a way with words you have. Did you develop that astounding vocabulary at the bog-standard comprehensive you attended?
@@goodyeoman4534 comprehensive... you kidding. I'd be legally illiterate if I went there. Learnt all I know at the local Madrassa.
@@kth6736 Stay away from underage white girls, please.
@@goodyeoman4534 you mean no assimilating into english culture. Got it.
This country is the problem.
I'm not stupid.
My ideas were either stolen or buried.
I don't appreciate my life being micromanaged... least of all by a society gone wrong.
Churchill was chosen because they wanted him to be mocked.
What's in a name?
Please tell me David... you are aware of what has been going on?
Prophecy... is what is going on.
Calling jesus evil... as evil apparently begats evil... is absolutely shocking!!!
It's a bit like Joan of arc... where is your god now Joan.
Or try this... if the witch drowns... then she may not be a witch at all... if she doesn't drown... for whatever reason then she shall be tortured even more.
MANTHINKING David... got us in this mess!!!
Hitler is apparently the good guy... because how can the meek inherit the earth after everything MANTHINKING has accomplished???
Yes... prophecy in the wrong hands will be the death of us all.
I am a BRIGHT SHINY THING... drowning in evil.
I am key to your very survival.
We are all being got rid of because no one is interested in doing the right things for the right reasons... and none of you apoear to know what that is.
Well I do... and I am being relentlessly tortured inside the system OF SCRUTINY.
The AMITYVILLE HORROR appears to be based upon a reality... as is Jaws and Amity island.
The Government in ITS WISDOM has deemed me anti-establishment.
Why?
...Because I'm not the stupid one
I ONLY RELATE TO PEOPLE WHO ASK NICELY WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF.
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