You took the words right out of my mouth (with due respect to "Meat Loaf"!) I was moved to write the same words....many thanks for saving me the time and effort! All the best.
Nobody hates this country it's people and outside forces that shouldn't be here that not only hates this country but brings down the native population of people and makes them go loopy. The answer is clearly more restriction, more tightness and nothing coming easy for anyone but that would be bad also right? The whole thing is corrupt and many people who understand the truth are shut down and may become sandal wearers or outright racist's. Who knows but this country is going down the shitter and it's because the natives who know what we are cannot live freely in their own country anymore and basically racism is 100% justified given the circumstances.
Starkey is an extraordinary man. The elite / establishment cancel such men because they inherently know that allowing them a platform will end in their own ideologies being buried
@@davidgill2949 These comments are hilarious - actually made me laugh (thanks). It is obvious that Starkey's mind is going real-time and he is getting basic historical facts wrong all through this talk, although its obvious that Lee has no idea of recent history either so doesn't correct him.
@@endintiers Which 'basic historical facts' is Starkey getting wrong? I suspect that your real issue is that he is delivering a number of truths that you would rather not hear.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 There were lots. The most obvious was ignoring the fact that the ECHR was a British invention which the UK was upset not to be the very first signatory.
@@Mike-tb5gjof course but a completely left figure of corbyn isn’t liked as well there are many things that people don’t understand unfortunately yet they understand the only way of Essex and the latest cat funny video etc etc
@@Mac-dx4rd I agree. Many cannot be bothered to see what's going on around them. They prefer their 'comfort zone' of TV soaps and reality shows...... (Even I like a look at Match of the Day though!)
CHURCHILL: "A person who isn't socialist when young has no heart. A person who isn't capitalist as an adult has no brain". Something like that, but I've muddled the words.
@@stevebbuk9557 The USA has racked up about twice the debt per capita as the UK has, in the USA it is about 100K USD per person, in the UK is about 50K. Don't ask about the EU, because having put a convicted financial criminal to head the EU Central Bank, their numbers are complete obfuscation and can't be trusted, at all.
@@nancyreid2416 Indeed, and most definitely Right of Centre. The side of politics that is now most favoured, and required and supported by the general consensus, though now that consensus has shifted a lot further to the Right than the Right that Maggie represented.
@@nancyreid2416there’s no such thing as a true Tory, the Tory’s of the 1950’s were advocates of the welfare state, in fact Chamberlain set a lot of it up, they’ll just do whatever necessitates getting into power. THAT’s a true Tory
Orwell: "It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during ‘God save the King’ than of stealing from a poor box".
The right of centre has over the last few years of leftist lunacy discovered many of Orwell's quotable lines, but its worth remembering that he stayed wedded to the idea of Fabian Gradualism until his last breath.
@@raypurchase801 They wont ban it, they'll change it, as in the effort to rewrite it from a feminist perspective that was touted in 2021. The MSM proclaimed that the effort had the support of the 'Orwell Estate', but given that the book entered the public domain in that year, its difficult to see how Orwell's beneficiaries could have had a dog in the race. :)
As an antidote to the winter of discontent Thatcherism seemed to sort of work. Very clear principles of free market, personal initiative and robust self reliance were laid down. These have been erased by a generation or two of safe spaces and "educational" indoctrination. The nation that Starkey says New Labour wanted to change us into is what we live in now. Honestly, I think I'd prefer to go back to Thatcherism: it sort of worked and we understood the rules.
I was born in a labour town- Scunthorpe. My grandparents taught me not to vote Labour because they said the Irish labour Mp for the area fled England durinr World War II for neutral southern Ireland. I was a lower class child and went to a Grammar school and got a good education and a good job. A few years later the Labour Party closed most grammar schools and cut off the path to good jobs for lower class childeren.When i was 21 and saw this I voted tory and have voted tory ever since. Saint Margaret Thatcher helped make most of us rich.
You are correct about the Irish abandoning England and running back to Ireland. That never seems to be spoken of, or how Ireland supported Germany during the war - fuelling the German U-boats so they could sink the allies shipping! That said, what loyalty did or does the Irish owe England? England kept Ireland as a cheap Labour pool for hundreds of years - same as the US keeps South America as as a cheap Labour pool!
Great stuff Trev, so you have " arrived," now have you ?. You should write a book entitled, " My Grandparents Were Impressionable, But I,m Just A Thatcherite Bootlicker." ( Should be a best seller amongst the dirty royalist tory fraternity.)
The destruction of the constitution by Blair and Brown (plus ruining of private pension plans by destroying ACT) is why I can never vote Labour. The anti liberal and democratic actions of the Lib-Dems over Brexit is why I will never vote for them. But the complete failure of the Conservatives to push back against the "Blob" that is the left leaning Civil Service (including the NHS and Teaching) and their media allies which results in the managed decline of society leaves me in despair for our country 😢
I'm working class,I'm 65 but don't understand the Labour party, they hate that I'm white working class and that I love my country and I love my English flag.if Lee was was leading the country I would vote for him. He's old school, the trouble is the tory's Labour 'lib-dems and the like are all the same, so I'm voting REFORM party.
I was forced to join the T&G back in the day to be able to work as a lorry driver when many firms were closed shops and you couldn't get in without a Union card. I always hated it, never been on strike in my life, when they happened I would just quit.
Bet they didn,t make anywhere near the £52,000 per hour 24/7- 365 that your unelected royal parasite King Charlie is making our of YOU now. VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Or perish completely.)
@@steadfastandyx4947true but you need to look a bit further, the reason we went to war and the hippies 60’s after that was the stage then but since many times before that it was all in the plans
Middle class people of my acquaintance, who support Labour Party have, in recent years been fond of telling me that the working class have deserted the Labour Party. To which, with no little pleasure, I tell them: No. The Labour Party has deserted the working class.
@@richardmurphy4520 why are you being abusive? You don't feel the same way, fine but there is no need to be unpleasant. You fit the profile of the type of person who wouldn't like Starkey, perfectly.
If you enjoy listening to old dirty royalist tory psycho duffers who sound like they,ve been left plugged into the electro convulsive therapy machine in the care home day room for too long.
I've been sitting here having a good chuckle to myself. I was pondering how much airtime Dr Starky would need if live on television a government minister asked him... "Where did we all go wrong" ...?
Thatcher did so much for women in this country when she came into power, my husband had to sign any credit agreement I entered into or buy a house without getting a guarantor, unless you were filthy rich. I’ve noticed that guarantors are creeping back in but people don’t understand the ramifications of them.
@@janebaker966 yes it was. I couldn’t get credit without his being guarantor and she ended that by stating that if I was earning my own money, I should be able to spend my money and obtain credit in my own right.
@@bridiesmith5110 the law was changed in 1977,that was pre-Thatcher. Too late for me. I wanted to start on the house buying process in 1973 and was well and truly told that as a girlie it was totally inappropriate and forbidden and even worse a manless girlie. Ok it's only 4 years from 1973-1977 but I just gave up. But in a way I was lucky as I was spared wasting most of my life chained to the hamster wheel and in debt. So as " the community" gave me nothing but exclusion and abuse I don't have to "give" anything back.
@@janebaker966 in 1980, I was still required for my husband to sign a credit agreement to purchase a new sofa.which was a pain as he was a shift worker.
Greedy and controlling unions had quite a hand in destroying industries . I remember the Strawbs hit of 1972 - "You Don't Get Me I'm Part of the Union" . It rather said it all , in a "humorous , jokey " way.
The Unions stopped being for the Workers in the 1930s. They were taken over by Stalinists and even led strikes during WW2 to hobble UK output so that the USSR could steal more of Europe. Up until the mid 1960s 16 out of the top 20 Unions were led by avowed or former communists. They were not working for their members but for a foreign power.
Not as nauseating as the song they wrote for the Queen mothers 90th b,day, " Happy Birthday Ma,am, We Love You.," Should have came with a sick bag and face wipes with each playback.
This is what has ruined Britain and the first fatal mistake was opening Britain's borders to Commonwealth immigration in 1948 and beginning the flow of immigration into Britain and the second fatal mistake was joining the Common Market in 1973. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to open up your own home to immigration and give your neighbours the power to decide what you can and cannot do in your own home.
Our unelected royal filth family who encouraged them to invade Britain ( in exchange for land, gold, and silver for themselves) are not opening up their dozen taxpayer maintained and furnished palaces, castles, stately homes, or estates to them, so more the fool any piss poor British serf class ( less tax for royal scum) worker who lets any of these royally sponsored islamic invaders shelter, food, or owt else.
Why not? If the Commonwealth can spend 6 years fighting a war, the least you could have done is continue to let them in after they spent 20 years helping you rebuild. Did you know that NZ kept up rationing until the 1960's to send everything to the UK, like Australia and Canada, and every other Realm did, to help you recover after the war? I bet you never, ever knew that. You went to Europe as a thank you to the Commonwealth, and ended up with immigrants from Europe that ultimately envied you, because you lead the effort to rescue them a second time, and tried to tear you down as a result. Starkey here fails to mention that Blair and Labour installed the Supreme Court, and tried to change you from your history, because Brussels ordered them to, against your wishes. Why, you ask? Because their mission was to get you to become a region in the nation of Europe, and convince you it was right to do so, and all because you joined their project, and put Brussels ABOVE YOUR OWN MONARCH IN FINAL SAY OF ALL DECISIONS.
Thatcher would do exactly what the late greedy Betty told her to do ( ie let them in) just the same as Nick Nack Subject Sunak will do exactly what her spineless son and heir King Chuckie tells him to do ( ie let them in). Can you see a pattern developing here .... ? VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Not My Traitor King ! )
Well yes because she was in charge and anyone in charge eventually does as they’re told as thatcher did with Europe maybe money maybe threatening with family etc
Great Discussion. 👍 1979 to 1990 the last decade GREAT still meant something. The EU has destroyed Britain from the inside, its revenge for all times over the centuries we have given the Europeans a slap.
EEC membership played a big part in pulling the UK out of the economic hole of the 70s. Thatcher rode that wave, but since Brexit we see the results of leaving the trading bloc.
I'm not sure that's true. We always ran a deficit in manufactured goods throughout that period. Now there's also the political fallout of EU integration or lack thereof to deal with.@@mike747436
David Starkey is just like an onion you think you have an idea on how he thinks, he peels off another layer to take you further into the history and philosophy of why he thinks like he does.
That's my dilemma. I can never ever give Labour a vote again. I have never voted for the "Liberal" "Democrats" and never will and now the "Conservative" Party are no longer a conservative party. I am left with voting for a small party like Reform and know my vote will be wasted as they will not get a seat.
@@sidnotvicious8442 VOTE REPUBLIC UK. W.E.F. Traitor King Charlie , his RNLI and R.N. that have collected these 100,000 Jihadi invaders ( and counting) from the channel, are engaging in a deliberate policy of indigenous Brit replacement. I'm still shocked at how naive, gullible, and British people still are when what our unelected head of state King is clearly engaging in this Islamification of Britain. No doubt his mummy Greedy Betty also had a whip hand in this policy for many decades beforehand. VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Or perish), seems to be the only move worthy of exploration.
Thatcher was a very forthright leader and did some good things but, particularly when she first got in, it was terrible - monetarism destroyed so much productive industry, so many lives, sky high interest rates and mass unemployment; I and all my age group were victims. Things did get a lot better later on when she abandoned monetarism and followed a more sensible economic policy. She had a sound policy on immigration and foreign policy but it was patchy overall.
Starkey mentions "The Lion and the Unicorn" by George Orwell. This excerpt always stays in my mind. ----- Here, George Orwell, describes the inbuilt sense of belonging to an English civilisation. Today, it would probably be more accurate to describe what we feel as being a part of Western civilization. What he writes here is something that people of all Western nations can relate to. "Yes, there is something distinctive and recognizable in English civilization. It is a culture as individual as that of Spain. It is somehow bound up with solid breakfasts and gloomy Sundays, smoky towns and winding roads, green fields and red pillar-boxes. It has a flavour of its own. Moreover it is continuous, it stretches into the future and the past, there is something in it that persists, as in a living creature. What can the England of 1940 have in common with the England of 1840? But then, what have you in common with the child of five whose photograph your mother keeps on the mantelpiece? Nothing, except that you happen to be the same person. And above all, it is your civilization, it is you. However much you hate it or laugh at it, you will never be happy away from it for any length of time. The suet puddings and the red pillar-boxes have entered into your soul. Good or evil, it is yours, you belong to it, and this side the grave you will never get away from the marks that it has given you". This sense of identity and belonging is just one more thing that White replacement will destroy. Forever!
Most today appear to forget the 'industrial strategy' of the 1974-79 Labour Callaghan's Governemnent and the winter of discontent, the falling pound and general demise of the country at that time. Even many within the Labour Party believed Callaghan to be a weak leader who was unable to stand up to the left or the leaders of the Unions. As you say the Door was wide open for Thatcher to walk into power.
Monetarism saved the economy, but it was in such a parlous state in 1979 that it was painful at first. Eventually it was sorted out but when Major came in he tried to rule by consensus and showed no leadership at all.
The real low point was Denis Healy going to the IMF in Washington DC with a begging bowl. It put Britain in the same category as a third world country. Truly shameful. There had been a lack of investment in British industry, too much profit taking (where profits existed), and overmighty trade unions. Lessons don't seem to have been learnt. The same thing is happening today.
He’s right about thatcher. Undoubtably a successful visionary who garnished some economic success for a lot of thr nation, but in the process destroyed and impoverished other parts. That unfortunately is unforgivable.
We need another Prime Minister with a backbone who will deliver safe, controlled borders, a Brexit that works as it should do and infrastructure that serves all the people of the UK. Britain is not a country to be proud of at the moment and it's about time that changed.
They say they were Labour supporters when Maggie T was destroying Britain, closing down the mines and whatnot, but they switched to Conservative when a Labour government abolished the office of Lord Chancellor in an attempt to turn Britain into "another European country". Britain is another European country, obviously. This snippet doesn't make much sense.
Margaret Thatcher quoted George Bernard Shaw "freedom incurs responsibility, that is why many men fear it." I don't see her as destroying anything, but rather gave the option to proposer or to fail. Government became too interventionist post WWII of which was then buckled over by union officials hell bent on flouting legislation and abusing the power given to them by their members. It is the individual that mattered to Mrs T for whilst we're all unequal, everyone nonetheless is equally important.
I keep hearing about the mining industry being destroyed by Thatcher. Is it true that the mines were losing money and had to be supported and subsidized by government ? Those that could not be made economical had to close?
Most industries get subsidies (taxpayer money) from the government. When investors come into a country, the government lures them with sweet deals (subsidies). Governments are correct to support vital industries and resources otherwise China will own most stuff!
@@tropics8407 a tax break is the same as robbing the tax payer. Why should a poor person pay tax and not a corporation? A government needs money for infrastructure etc and businesses use the roads and rails etc built with taxpayer money. Why should they not pay tax?
The NUM had a major strike every two years. This was bringing the mining industry to its knees. Thatcher was caught out in the first miners' strike in her government and had to give in just as Labour always had when in power. Knowing they would do it again she prepared for it and when it came she was able to tough it out and the power of the NUM was damaged forever, at least until the next election.
Lost a lot of respect for this historian when he didn’t notice very obvious points of criminal scam - which had parallels in the 1930s, terror psyops and complete breaches of the Nuremberg Code. Moreover, to evaluate Thatcher positively is also reflects a lot of analytical capability. The career political party system has wrecked this country. The party you vote for makes no difference. There is only one credible party today - and that’s called Heritage. Most Britons have never heard of it - and the ones which have - can’t be bothered to read their policy document.
That the coal industry was doomed was never in doubt. It could have gone kicking and screaming while bleeding away increasingly high levels of state aid or the way Thatcher did it. Her government did a lot to fund the creation of replacement jobs by offering grants to companies to set up in high unemployment areas. Not perfect but the task was enormous
Find that quite hard to listen to because Dr. Starkey, well in this short piece, doesn't say all that much about the people. He basically just theorises his views about the Labour party.Most of it is just peripheral and not really relevant. Not relevant to me anyway.I don't have much interest in this type of stuff, I'm more interested in what the Parties actually do. That's the real argument in my view.
Starkey is the archetypal dirty royalist tory duffer that talks incessant piffle, waffle, and dirty royalist tory twaddle. ( That gets off on kissing royal derriere for his perks at their BBC propaganda hub in White City)
The difference between Dr starkeyand 30p Lee? Dr starkey has morals, he’s not a Hippocrate, doesn’t treat people with contempt,and wouldn’t dare tell anyone they can live on 30p a day
You have no Idea what your on about... England can never function without a King... our entire parliamentary system requires there to be an Office of KING... If any body is a TRAITOR its YOU!!!
What a brilliant video pity the general public will not see this as it exposed the true state of politics
Delusionist!
I could listen to David Starkey all night. He's absolutely brilliant.
You took the words right out of my mouth (with due respect to "Meat Loaf"!) I was moved to write the same words....many thanks for saving me the time and effort! All the best.
See a doctor, you are clearly sick.
He has a UA-cam channel if you didn't know.
@@fl-ri- Yes, it's called The Royalist Retards channel.
Nobody hates this country it's people and outside forces that shouldn't be here that not only hates this country but brings down the native population of people and makes them go loopy. The answer is clearly more restriction, more tightness and nothing coming easy for anyone but that would be bad also right? The whole thing is corrupt and many people who understand the truth are shut down and may become sandal wearers or outright racist's. Who knows but this country is going down the shitter and it's because the natives who know what we are cannot live freely in their own country anymore and basically racism is 100% justified given the circumstances.
Brilliant. Offers a historical context that is sadly lacking from most debates
Starkey is an extraordinary man. The elite / establishment cancel such men because they inherently know that allowing them a platform will end in their own ideologies being buried
He is just too smart for them.
@@davidgill2949 These comments are hilarious - actually made me laugh (thanks). It is obvious that Starkey's mind is going real-time and he is getting basic historical facts wrong all through this talk, although its obvious that Lee has no idea of recent history either so doesn't correct him.
Starkers is a dirty royalist tory, like the rest of his aesthetically challenged oik gibbering classes.
@@endintiers Which 'basic historical facts' is Starkey getting wrong? I suspect that your real issue is that he is delivering a number of truths that you would rather not hear.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 There were lots. The most obvious was ignoring the fact that the ECHR was a British invention which the UK was upset not to be the very first signatory.
David makes more sense than many.
That's why the powers-that-be don't like him!
Especially 30p lee
DS is a terrible old rogue. God he’s good!
@@Mike-tb5gjof course but a completely left figure of corbyn isn’t liked as well there are many things that people don’t understand unfortunately yet they understand the only way of Essex and the latest cat funny video etc etc
@@Mac-dx4rd I agree. Many cannot be bothered to see what's going on around them. They prefer their 'comfort zone' of TV soaps and reality shows......
(Even I like a look at Match of the Day though!)
Great discussion. I'm American and was a liberal in the 1970's who was changed by Ronald Reagan.
But your country has racked up just as much debt as mine.
CHURCHILL: "A person who isn't socialist when young has no heart. A person who isn't capitalist as an adult has no brain". Something like that, but I've muddled the words.
@@stevebbuk9557 The USA has racked up about twice the debt per capita as the UK has, in the USA it is about 100K USD per person, in the UK is about 50K. Don't ask about the EU, because having put a convicted financial criminal to head the EU Central Bank, their numbers are complete obfuscation and can't be trusted, at all.
@@stevebbuk9557I don’t know what country you’re from but I can GUARANTEE you don’t have the debt of the US which is by design it’s not an accident
I'm from the UK and I'm not sure what you mean when you say the US debt is by design and not accident.@@Mac-dx4rd
I love starkly. He explains English identity so well, and the quaker line was spot on.
Love or loathe Maggie, she had balls. We can say with certainty, that she would not be tolerating the current state of affairs, not at all.
But she was a TRUE tory.
@@nancyreid2416 Indeed, and most definitely Right of Centre. The side of politics that is now most favoured, and required and supported by the general consensus, though now that consensus has shifted a lot further to the Right than the Right that Maggie represented.
agreed unlike the wimps in the tory party now. not a fan but maggie had bigger balls than sunak starmer etc...@@nancyreid2416
She was a necessary evil.
@@nancyreid2416there’s no such thing as a true Tory, the Tory’s of the 1950’s were advocates of the welfare state, in fact Chamberlain set a lot of it up, they’ll just do whatever necessitates getting into power. THAT’s a true Tory
I really like Mr Starkey’s take on things. He has a fantastic combination of compassion and reality
Dr David Starkey is spot on with his analysis of the Labour Party.
I don't think I could ever get bored with listening to Dr David Starkey.
Starkey nails it ..again.
This was fascinating...thank you!
Orwell: "It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during ‘God save the King’ than of stealing from a poor box".
The right of centre has over the last few years of leftist lunacy discovered many of Orwell's quotable lines, but its worth remembering that he stayed wedded to the idea of Fabian Gradualism until his last breath.
I expect "1984" to be banned as hate speech very soon.
@@raypurchase801 They wont ban it, they'll change it, as in the effort to rewrite it from a feminist perspective that was touted in 2021. The MSM proclaimed that the effort had the support of the 'Orwell Estate', but given that the book entered the public domain in that year, its difficult to see how Orwell's beneficiaries could have had a dog in the race. :)
The problem is they DID steal from the poor and have never stopped.
@@Fanakapan222 Rewrite all of 1984's references to rewriting history.
Rewriting history never happened.
What a legend
Very intelligent and informative man
Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng, were the true heirs to Thatcher but the Tories kicked them out.
Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng were many things
As an antidote to the winter of discontent Thatcherism seemed to sort of work. Very clear principles of free market, personal initiative and robust self reliance were laid down. These have been erased by a generation or two of safe spaces and "educational" indoctrination. The nation that Starkey says New Labour wanted to change us into is what we live in now. Honestly, I think I'd prefer to go back to Thatcherism: it sort of worked and we understood the rules.
Selling the water companies- that went well didn't it? Eradicating the concept of society- another Thatcherite master stroke.
Gosh. Dr Starkey knows his history and analyses it clearly, concisely and with humour.
I was born in a labour town- Scunthorpe. My grandparents taught me not to vote Labour because they said the Irish labour Mp for the area fled England durinr World War II for neutral southern Ireland. I was a lower class child and went to a Grammar school and got a good education and a good job. A few years later the Labour Party closed most grammar schools and cut off the path to good jobs for lower class childeren.When i was 21 and saw this I voted tory and have voted tory ever since. Saint Margaret Thatcher helped make most of us rich.
She was corrupt.
@@steveturner6770she had bigger testicles than the box ticker Tories of today.
You are correct about the Irish abandoning England and running back to Ireland.
That never seems to be spoken of, or how Ireland supported Germany during the war - fuelling the German U-boats so they could sink the allies shipping!
That said, what loyalty did or does the Irish owe England?
England kept Ireland as a cheap Labour pool for hundreds of years - same as the US keeps South America as as a cheap Labour pool!
@@steveturner6770who isn't
Great stuff Trev, so you have " arrived," now have you ?. You should write a book entitled, " My Grandparents Were Impressionable, But I,m Just A Thatcherite Bootlicker." ( Should be a best seller amongst the dirty royalist tory fraternity.)
The destruction of the constitution by Blair and Brown (plus ruining of private pension plans by destroying ACT) is why I can never vote Labour. The anti liberal and democratic actions of the Lib-Dems over Brexit is why I will never vote for them. But the complete failure of the Conservatives to push back against the "Blob" that is the left leaning Civil Service (including the NHS and Teaching) and their media allies which results in the managed decline of society leaves me in despair for our country 😢
VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Not My £52,000 per hour traitor King ! )
@@richardmurphy4520 Grow up!
I always learn so much listening to David he is amazing
I'm working class,I'm 65 but don't understand the Labour party, they hate that I'm white working class and that I love my country and I love my English flag.if Lee was was leading the country I would vote for him. He's old school, the trouble is the tory's Labour 'lib-dems and the like are all the same, so I'm voting REFORM party.
VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( NOT MY £52,000 PER HOUR TRAITOR KING! )
@@richardmurphy4520 Grow up!
I was forced to join the T&G back in the day to be able to work as a lorry driver when many firms were closed shops and you couldn't get in without a Union card.
I always hated it, never been on strike in my life, when they happened I would just quit.
Blair signed us to the human rights act because he knew him and the vicked witch would make a fortune out of it,and they have!!!!!!
Bet they didn,t make anywhere near the £52,000 per hour 24/7- 365 that your unelected royal parasite King Charlie is making our of YOU now. VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Or perish completely.)
The only thing wrong with this video is it came to an end!
From ‘97, just about everything in Britain got worse. I noticed the strength of the change in my own little life, it’s not just an impression.
Did your wife leaving you perhaps contribute to your pessimistic outlook?
Agree. A date of infamy when bliar was elected. Look, please, at just one statistic : house prices to average income before 97 to now. Insanity.
We can thank bliar for that ,he should be locked up the destruction of the uk
@@tobylerone4285 Be quiet peasant
@@steadfastandyx4947true but you need to look a bit further, the reason we went to war and the hippies 60’s after that was the stage then but since many times before that it was all in the plans
Middle class people of my acquaintance, who support Labour Party have, in recent years been fond of telling me that the working class have deserted the Labour Party. To which, with no little pleasure, I tell them: No. The Labour Party has deserted the working class.
I could listen to David Starkey all day long
Is that before you take your sedation meds or afterwards?.
@@richardmurphy4520 why are you being abusive? You don't feel the same way, fine but there is no need to be unpleasant. You fit the profile of the type of person who wouldn't like Starkey, perfectly.
@@mark5439 Thanks, I,ll take that as a compliment. I despise Starkey and all who sail in him.
That’s why he’s on UA-cam
Let’s have the fill interview.. always worth a listen is David.. thank you lee for talking to one of the great minds of our age.
If you enjoy listening to old dirty royalist tory psycho duffers who sound like they,ve been left plugged into the electro convulsive therapy machine in the care home day room for too long.
I've been sitting here having a good chuckle to myself. I was pondering how much airtime Dr Starky would need if live on television a government minister asked him... "Where did we all go wrong" ...?
David Starkey 👍🇬🇧 always tells it as it is, no holding back with David
Fantastic!
Thatcher did so much for women in this country when she came into power, my husband had to sign any credit agreement I entered into or buy a house without getting a guarantor, unless you were filthy rich. I’ve noticed that guarantors are creeping back in but people don’t understand the ramifications of them.
I don't think that was down to Mrs Thatcher.
@@janebaker966 yes it was. I couldn’t get credit without his being guarantor and she ended that by stating that if I was earning my own money, I should be able to spend my money and obtain credit in my own right.
@@bridiesmith5110 the law was changed in 1977,that was pre-Thatcher. Too late for me. I wanted to start on the house buying process in 1973 and was well and truly told that as a girlie it was totally inappropriate and forbidden and even worse a manless girlie.
Ok it's only 4 years from 1973-1977 but I just gave up. But in a way I was lucky as I was spared wasting most of my life chained to the hamster wheel and in debt. So as " the community" gave me nothing but exclusion and abuse I don't have to "give" anything back.
@@janebaker966 in 1980, I was still required for my husband to sign a credit agreement to purchase a new sofa.which was a pain as he was a shift worker.
Do you think she did as much for the gays?
Greedy and controlling unions had quite a hand in destroying industries . I remember the Strawbs hit of 1972 - "You Don't Get Me I'm Part of the Union" . It rather said it all , in a "humorous , jokey " way.
The Unions stopped being for the Workers in the 1930s. They were taken over by Stalinists and even led strikes during WW2 to hobble UK output so that the USSR could steal more of Europe. Up until the mid 1960s 16 out of the top 20 Unions were led by avowed or former communists. They were not working for their members but for a foreign power.
Not as nauseating as the song they wrote for the Queen mothers 90th b,day, " Happy Birthday Ma,am, We Love You.," Should have came with a sick bag and face wipes with each playback.
This is what has ruined Britain and the first fatal mistake was opening Britain's borders to Commonwealth immigration in 1948 and beginning the flow of immigration into Britain and the second fatal mistake was joining the Common Market in 1973. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to open up your own home to immigration and give your neighbours the power to decide what you can and cannot do in your own home.
Our unelected royal filth family who encouraged them to invade Britain ( in exchange for land, gold, and silver for themselves) are not opening up their dozen taxpayer maintained and furnished palaces, castles, stately homes, or estates to them, so more the fool any piss poor British serf class ( less tax for royal scum) worker who lets any of these royally sponsored islamic invaders shelter, food, or owt else.
Why not? If the Commonwealth can spend 6 years fighting a war, the least you could have done is continue to let them in after they spent 20 years helping you rebuild.
Did you know that NZ kept up rationing until the 1960's to send everything to the UK, like Australia and Canada, and every other Realm did, to help you recover after the war? I bet you never, ever knew that.
You went to Europe as a thank you to the Commonwealth, and ended up with immigrants from Europe that ultimately envied you, because you lead the effort to rescue them a second time, and tried to tear you down as a result.
Starkey here fails to mention that Blair and Labour installed the Supreme Court, and tried to change you from your history, because Brussels ordered them to, against your wishes. Why, you ask?
Because their mission was to get you to become a region in the nation of Europe, and convince you it was right to do so, and all because you joined their project, and put Brussels ABOVE YOUR OWN MONARCH IN FINAL SAY OF ALL DECISIONS.
@@shauntempley9757 Would you allow immigrants into your own home.
Can you imagine Thatcher tolerating the illegal immigration and net zero nonsense ?
Thatcher would do exactly what the late greedy Betty told her to do ( ie let them in) just the same as Nick Nack Subject Sunak will do exactly what her spineless son and heir King Chuckie tells him to do ( ie let them in). Can you see a pattern developing here .... ? VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Not My Traitor King ! )
Well yes because she was in charge and anyone in charge eventually does as they’re told as thatcher did with Europe maybe money maybe threatening with family etc
For obvious reasons I wish the whole of the UK would be like Chillingbourne.
One of the most important questions for Britain is: Should Roosh V be able to enter our country?
Great Discussion. 👍 1979 to 1990 the last decade GREAT still meant something. The EU has destroyed Britain from the inside, its revenge for all times over the centuries we have given the Europeans a slap.
There's a lot of truth in that. What a shocking deal Boris Johnson signed.
EEC membership played a big part in pulling the UK out of the economic hole of the 70s. Thatcher rode that wave, but since Brexit we see the results of leaving the trading bloc.
I'm not sure that's true. We always ran a deficit in manufactured goods throughout that period. Now there's also the political fallout of EU integration or lack thereof to deal with.@@mike747436
The eu this the eu that oh do get a life ffs
Where's the rest of this? This is a must-watch.
David Starkey is just like an onion you think you have an idea on how he thinks, he peels off another layer to take you further into the history and philosophy of why he thinks like he does.
He certainly 'knows his onions' !
There,s an 8 letter word beginning with B and old dirty royalist tory Starkey is FULL OF IT.
Thatcher dragged this country kicking and screaming into the 20th century painfull for some but needed.
Starkey is normal!
A normal bigoted fascist, like the unelected, autocratic royal traitor King Charles.
i’ve only voted labour once in my life, 1st tony blair govt, never again, no one to vote for now though as the current tory govt are green socialists.
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That's my dilemma. I can never ever give Labour a vote again. I have never voted for the "Liberal" "Democrats" and never will and now the "Conservative" Party are no longer a conservative party. I am left with voting for a small party like Reform and know my vote will be wasted as they will not get a seat.
@@sidnotvicious8442 VOTE REPUBLIC UK. W.E.F. Traitor King Charlie , his RNLI and R.N. that have collected these 100,000 Jihadi invaders ( and counting) from the channel, are engaging in a deliberate policy of indigenous Brit replacement. I'm still shocked at how naive, gullible, and British people still are when what our unelected head of state King is clearly engaging in this Islamification of Britain. No doubt his mummy Greedy Betty also had a whip hand in this policy for many decades beforehand. VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( Or perish), seems to be the only move worthy of exploration.
@@sidnotvicious8442 p.s. Never trust a liberal.
Great video
Yed...MPs make no difference..committees and lobbyists.
Blair is one of Klaus' boys
Sadly they all are now 😔 the country is ruined 😞😢
King Charles is a bigger fan of Herr Schwab than even dirty royalist Tory Blair.
Plenty of Guardian readers talking crap on here. Or are they Sky News trolls 😉
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@@richardmurphy4520 Grow up you fascist!
Thatcher was a very forthright leader and did some good things but, particularly when she first got in, it was terrible - monetarism destroyed so much productive industry, so many lives, sky high interest rates and mass unemployment; I and all my age group were victims. Things did get a lot better later on when she abandoned monetarism and followed a more sensible economic policy. She had a sound policy on immigration and foreign policy but it was patchy overall.
Starkey mentions "The Lion and the Unicorn" by George Orwell.
This excerpt always stays in my mind.
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Here, George Orwell, describes the inbuilt sense of belonging to an English civilisation.
Today, it would probably be more accurate to describe what we feel as being a part of Western civilization.
What he writes here is something that people of all Western nations can relate to.
"Yes, there is something distinctive and recognizable in English civilization.
It is a culture as individual as that of Spain.
It is somehow bound up with solid breakfasts and gloomy Sundays, smoky towns and winding roads, green fields and red pillar-boxes.
It has a flavour of its own.
Moreover it is continuous, it stretches into the future and the past, there is something in it that persists, as in a living creature.
What can the England of 1940 have in common with the England of 1840?
But then, what have you in common with the child of five whose photograph your mother keeps on the mantelpiece? Nothing, except that you happen to be the same person.
And above all, it is your civilization, it is you.
However much you hate it or laugh at it, you will never be happy away from it for any length of time.
The suet puddings and the red pillar-boxes have entered into your soul.
Good or evil, it is yours, you belong to it, and this side the grave you will never get away from the marks that it has given you".
This sense of identity and belonging is just one more thing that White replacement will destroy.
Forever!
Most today appear to forget the 'industrial strategy' of the 1974-79 Labour Callaghan's Governemnent and the winter of discontent, the falling pound and general demise of the country at that time. Even many within the Labour Party believed Callaghan to be a weak leader who was unable to stand up to the left or the leaders of the Unions. As you say the Door was wide open for Thatcher to walk into power.
Monetarism saved the economy, but it was in such a parlous state in 1979 that it was painful at first. Eventually it was sorted out but when Major came in he tried to rule by consensus and showed no leadership at all.
We're in a worse state today than we were under Callaghan & there's no Thatcher in sight to rescue us this time!
Starkey admitting that Scottish oil subsidised the UK.
Ban all sandals!
Lee Anderson is one of the few men who can wear a pink shirt whilst still looking macho and based.
The real low point was Denis Healy going to the IMF in Washington DC with a begging bowl.
It put Britain in the same category as a third world country.
Truly shameful.
There had been a lack of investment in British industry, too much profit taking (where profits existed), and overmighty trade unions.
Lessons don't seem to have been learnt.
The same thing is happening today.
A pity this interview wasn't about 2 hours long.
Lee is my MP and proud to say, Thatcher was like Marmite
Wonderful stuff Marmite, and the Blessed Margaret likewise.
He’s right about thatcher. Undoubtably a successful visionary who garnished some economic success for a lot of thr nation, but in the process destroyed and impoverished other parts. That unfortunately is unforgivable.
With all Starkey's wisdom & insight, why doesn't it rub off on those seeking positive change? They could even be, the Conservatives, of now.
Is Starmer meant to make Blair become a historically palatable figure?
Even what my father did is nothing to do with me.
Funny watching Lee listen to Starkey... he's like, "What are you selling, son?"
48k views is 1000x too low. EVERY person who has voted Labour in the last 50 years needs to hear this.
Great blokes. You get what you ask them for. I hope Lee can somehowreatini his seat against possible tribal voting.
Imagine thinking that voting makes a difference!
£52,000 per hour 24/7-365 King Charles wants you to keep believing you have hope though.
We need another Prime Minister with a backbone who will deliver safe, controlled borders, a Brexit that works as it should do and infrastructure that serves all the people of the UK. Britain is not a country to be proud of at the moment and it's about time that changed.
They say they were Labour supporters when Maggie T was destroying Britain, closing down the mines and whatnot, but they switched to Conservative when a Labour government abolished the office of Lord Chancellor in an attempt to turn Britain into "another European country". Britain is another European country, obviously. This snippet doesn't make much sense.
If you overlook Mrs. Thatcher's introduction of permanent mass unemployment, she was OK.
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Two heads same body, we really need a third option 🤷🏻♂️
Enjoy your last few months, Lee; the writing is on the wall for that 2019 blue wall!!!
Margaret Thatcher quoted George Bernard Shaw "freedom incurs responsibility, that is why many men fear it." I don't see her as destroying anything, but rather gave the option to proposer or to fail. Government became too interventionist post WWII of which was then buckled over by union officials hell bent on flouting legislation and abusing the power given to them by their members. It is the individual that mattered to Mrs T for whilst we're all unequal, everyone nonetheless is equally important.
Thatcher was a disgrace! All she did was destroy.
I keep hearing about the mining industry being destroyed by Thatcher. Is it true that the mines were losing money and had to be supported and subsidized by government ?
Those that could not be made economical had to close?
Most industries get subsidies (taxpayer money) from the government. When investors come into a country, the government lures them with sweet deals (subsidies). Governments are correct to support vital industries and resources otherwise China will own most stuff!
Surely you mean tax breaks ? Tax holidays and the like ?
Why would a government pay a company to run a business ?
@@tropics8407 a tax break is the same as robbing the tax payer. Why should a poor person pay tax and not a corporation? A government needs money for infrastructure etc and businesses use the roads and rails etc built with taxpayer money. Why should they not pay tax?
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The NUM had a major strike every two years. This was bringing the mining industry to its knees. Thatcher was caught out in the first miners' strike in her government and had to give in just as Labour always had when in power. Knowing they would do it again she prepared for it and when it came she was able to tough it out and the power of the NUM was damaged forever, at least until the next election.
Any danger of including the link to the full discussion please GBN
He's honest, " I was doing I well ". I'm alright Jack is still the normal attitude all across the West and will lead to its doom.
Sit twiddling your thumbs he just described david mundell mp
Those “mad” abolitionist Quakers - they were even pacifists! Talk about mental! 😵💫
Lost a lot of respect for this historian when he didn’t notice very obvious points of criminal scam - which had parallels in the 1930s, terror psyops and complete breaches of the Nuremberg Code. Moreover, to evaluate Thatcher positively is also reflects a lot of analytical capability. The career political party system has wrecked this country. The party you vote for makes no difference. There is only one credible party today - and that’s called Heritage. Most Britons have never heard of it - and the ones which have - can’t be bothered to read their policy document.
August 2024. Now it's too-late.
Right on the button fella.
I like complex people.
We get to filter gems from mud.
We ought to be worried now. 2 generations of social rule and bankruptcy to come.
Where's the full chat?
Lee is quite good looking. I didn’t realise that before.
Been to specsavers recently girl ?, I advise you make an appointment today.
@@richardmurphy4520 So you’re telling me who I should think is good looking? You’ll be telling me who I should think is a woman next.
@@HelenA-fd8vl The way things are going none of us will know if we,re being chatted up by either sex. Maybe it will be a blessing in disguise ?.
That the coal industry was doomed was never in doubt. It could have gone kicking and screaming while bleeding away increasingly high levels of state aid or the way Thatcher did it. Her government did a lot to fund the creation of replacement jobs by offering grants to companies to set up in high unemployment areas. Not perfect but the task was enormous
Where these two characters are talking, there is hope.
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Margaret Thatcher 2nd greatest only to sir Winston Churchill🇬🇧👍
Both royalist lickspittles. ( careerists motivated through self interest)
cut off before the end, why?
I wonder if he ever reflects on his own ''moment of shame'' when he showed such disrespect to those declining the ''vaccines''.
Most of them are full of BS, as usual.
Find that quite hard to listen to because Dr. Starkey, well in this short piece, doesn't say all that much about the people. He basically just theorises his views about the Labour party.Most of it is just peripheral and not really relevant. Not relevant to me anyway.I don't have much interest in this type of stuff, I'm more interested in what the Parties actually do. That's the real argument in my view.
Starkey is the archetypal dirty royalist tory duffer that talks incessant piffle, waffle, and dirty royalist tory twaddle. ( That gets off on kissing royal derriere for his perks at their BBC propaganda hub in White City)
Me too. I miss Maggie
Bet you,d miss Elizabeth Bathery too.
But how many strike days during WW2?
Beer p”ays gin and tonic. Says it all.
David doesn't believe in God. But God believed in him which is why he exists at all and gave his contingent wisdom to us all. (Jn. 1:1-14)
The difference between Dr starkeyand 30p Lee? Dr starkey has morals, he’s not a Hippocrate, doesn’t treat people with contempt,and wouldn’t dare tell anyone they can live on 30p a day
Lee is struggling to understand a world Starkey is saying
30p looks lost as has if he doesn't know what Starkey on about.
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Would a £52000 per hour president be an improvement?
@@CanadianMonarchist At least he or she would be ELECTED, unlike that adulterous, spineless, paedophile toad Charlie.
You have no Idea what your on about... England can never function without a King... our entire parliamentary system requires there to be an Office of KING... If any body is a TRAITOR its YOU!!!
@@CanadianMonarchistAnd one who never brings a penny in!! These anti monarchists wear blinkers. You can't teach mince!!