Sorry to comment at 3:46 BUT .. when you were listing differences up to this point you left out the sprocket sizes are different as well as the ECU Tune/MAP is “allegedly” going to be unique as well but please continue this is the video I’ve been looking for all week. Thanks 🙏
Don't apologize. Both good call outs on your part. I was just going purely off of the spec sheet on Yamaha's website instead of whatever media outlets are saying. Appreciate you chiming in, good points.
Ordered the white/red one the day after release. Excited to get back on 2 wheels after selling my 400 moving states! This bike basically has everything I want and am so happy for it finally being released! Plus my roommate as a 2014 R6 so it'll be fun to compare the 2 bikes.
You ordered my favorite color scheme out of the bunch. I’ve got a feeling you are going to really enjoy that R9. For $12k I don’t think there’s another bike I’d rather have. Very similar price to the RS660, but the R9 is better equipped and you aren’t going to have RS660 reliability issues. Enjoy your new bike when it arrives. 👊🏽.
Very mature commentary on the subject matter. Thank you. The R9 is actually on my shortlist for my next supersport and I haven’t really been as excited about Yamaha’s offerings in that segment since the early 2000s. The RS660 currently has top slot for me, but I do have access to ride one pretty much when I want, so depending on how my demo experience with the R9 goes, we’ll see.
Thank you for the compliment and glad you found the video helpful. RS660 is a fantastic bike and in a similar price range to the R9. Be a tough choice between it and the R9. If it were me, I'd probably go with the R9. Good luck with your selection process.
Going to see the R9 this weekend, my local Dealership has one to look at. Hopefully they will start it, let people sit on it. I think the price is spot on!!!
Love my 20 XSR900. Full exhaust and a few other mods/tweaks, and it does everything I want a motorcycle to do. CP3 engine is a gem. All that and only $33/mo for full coverage with $250 deductibles. Absolute steal compared to pretty much any other modern bike on the market!
Greta video! Yeah man I’m so tired of hearing people complaining about the R9. Pretty sure Yamaha knows what they are doing over some Joe off the street. Most people are closed minded and haven’t had experience on a variety of bikes to know what it’s meant for. It’s not meant to be a liter bike and it’s leaps better than an R7. R6 fanboys need to just let it die. Also the “it’s just an MT-09 with fairings” crap needs to stop. People need to do some research. 😂
Appreciate it! Yamaha has been very clear the R7 was never meant to be an R6 replacement, it's just that nobody seems to listen. Plus everybody just loves to complain.
I love how we’re now spoiled for choice. Whereas before supersport mean full fairing 599cc nowadays we have faired twins, naked triples (765rs), and an Italian V twin still. Of all the Ducatis the V2 has the most heritage IMO and hope it continues in the production line.
@MyToxicMasculinity you are actually not totally correct. the later R6’s were closer to 599 than they were to 600. Ninja bounced between 599 and 636 over the years. CBR was always 599 and GSXR was also always 599 other than the really old ones. It is the 600cc class, that’s where the naming nomenclature comes from. However, bikes in that class were typically 599cc in reality. No need to be rude to others man.
R9 is going to be a cool bike and everyone will grow to love it for what it is. For the price and specs it's going to be extremely competitive in the middleweight sport bike class. This is what the new Triumph Daytona should been. Yamaha's choice to discontinue the R1 in other countries but not in the US sucks but gives the chance for everyone complaining to buy an R1 to potentially convince Yamaha to throw some money into their R&D to conform to the new emission standards in the future. Doubt they will do it since that same group of people say "why would I buy a new R1 when a used R1 is a couple thousand cheaper". Also, the editing is tight 🤣
Hahahaha. I have zero confidence these complainers will be buying an R1. Easier to just complain on the internet than it is to actually buy these bikes they say they love so much. If it's anything like the XSR900, the R9 will do well.
Great Great video bro. You earned my Sub. I feel the same way about the bike. I'm getting an R9. Putting my deposit down next month. Some videos I've seen about the R9 say it's alot bigger and better looking in person. So for me...its gonna be my first bike and I can't wait. Definitely gonna take the safety course. But thanks for doing this video bro.
Glad the video was helpful and nice to see you are putting your money where your mouth is by getting an R9. If the R9 is anything like the XSR900, you will not be disappointed. Thank you so much for the support.
When most Yamaha fans heard the R7 was on the way, we thought Yamaha YZF-R7 OW02, which would have been a fitting replacement for the famed R6, I can totally understand the disappointment with what came out. As far as the R9 looks cool, I might test-ride one. I'd give it a go if the YCRS has them on tap.
Great video, The MT 09 SP likely the best bike in the line up, most practical as well as fun factor..... Looking at the RSV4 in the background, what was your experience with reliability ? The RS 660, is actually in this R9 segment and likely one of the best misses in a way for Aprillia because of so many reliability issues with the bike
MT09 SP is a great offering. You get a ton for just a hair over $12K. I've had the 2023 RSV4 since January of 2024. The only issue I've had with it so far was the finish on the fuel tank began to crack and split in various places. Aprilia accepted the warranty claim without issue. Took about 2 months to get the parts. Other than that, I have had no issues. I agree with RS660. Awesome bikes, but the reliability is kinda scary on those.
I pre-ordered the R9 as soon as I heard it was being released the RX and the R1 really have no business on the street and they’re not a lot of fun. I’ve had both. I think this new bike is really gonna kick ass and sell really well.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m already talking about upgrading, and the YZF-R9 is at the top of the list. It’s literally the best value for your money with all the technology you get that are seen on a Superbikes. You said “more options out there,” KTM’s new 990 RC R also has the same concept as the YZF-R9, but with the reputation of Euro-brands and for the price, I’m leaning towards the Yamaha because of the proven reliability of Japanese brands.
Great points! I think people hate on it coz they want to be blown away and or impressed. It's like they just wanted the R7 and R9 to be their dream bike just to worship and go Woohhhh I get it. On the other perspective - The R6 is an iconic bike (won everything in it's class and has an amazing engine) and people wanted anything that came after to be as iconic or even better. But Yamaha closed the R6 chapter. R7 or R9 is not a successor to the R6-it's a different type of bike and it's where the market currently is. Just look at the 650 class from Kawa and Honda or rs660 bikes. I have an R6, and I'll probably not replace it, but the R9 seems like a cool bike, and I'm excited to test-ride it.
Absolutely agree man. Yamaha is here to sell bikes and they are trying to piggy back off the MT09/XSR900 success. When we look at what happened with the success of the R7, stands to reason the logic is there to believe the R9 will also do well. Any sport bike enthusiast has a soft spot for the R6 and the R1, but business is business and as you’ve stated, the market for the R6 just isn’t there anymore. Maybe at some point they’ll make a resurgence, but if everybody keeps buying naked bikes that won’t happen. Take care man, appreciate the perspective from an actual R6 owner.
You speak the total truth, well done. A decent rider would be quicker on their local twisties on a R9 than a R6 or R1, that usable torque will rocket out of corners. Usable power wins for me.
I put fairings on my xsr900. Now it's very difficult to determine if making the switch to the R9 is worth it. I know I would really like the bike, but would it be worth it? I have a LOT of money invested into my XSR already 😩
If you have a lot invested and really like the XSR still, I would just keep it honestly. I’m sure the fairings make it a lot more pleasurable to ride. That was really my only complaint with the XSR, just too much wind for me. Either way, ride safe bro.
I mean they aren’t wrong saying it is no replacement for the r6 or r1. I think the r9 is fine and will be a great street bike but I still want the other bikes as well.
i actually like litteraly everything about the r9, other than 1 thing. the sound of the cp3 engine, im still not sure about it. i was gonna buy the zx6r, great engine sound but the r9 is just much more bike for the money, the tech and everything else is just better. and as i said the only thing still holding me back is the sound of the cp3. i never heard it IRL tho, do you think it sounds better in person IRL than what videos show ? cuz if it is there no bike that compares to the r9 at the price
I agree on the sound unfortunately. I’m not a fan of the sound of triples, including the CP3. I would say videos capture the tone pretty well. However, I’ll also say I’m not a fan of inline 4’s either other than the crossplane Yamahas.
I've got an XSR900 with a Black Widow full exhaust setup... I've previously had half a dozen 600cc I4s, half a dozen 1,000cc I4s, a 1200cc I4, and a few twins... IMO the CP3 is the best sounding bike I've ever owned or ridden. The intake sound + modified exhaust sound, to me, is about as good as it gets.
@TheGameDealer You can hear the intake growling / howling on these bikes, it's pretty loud and aggressive sounding. Only one of the other 15 bikes I've had you could hear the intake at all. The 24 MT09 has the intact tacts tuned specifically for sound and to increase engagement, I assume the R9 will have a similar setup. I've only heard the Black Widow I have in person and wouldn't change a thing, it sounds mint. Probably the growliest / most aggressive sounding bike I've experienced when you're on the throttle at all over say 5,500rpm. Like absolute music to my ears.
I put my order through for the R9 and will most likely be swapping my current gen 4 MT-09 SP. I'm wondering if an R9M is coming since i like that silver paint work from the SP. To much negativity on the Internet anyways Yamaha has done a great job with the R9.
I'm sure you can't wait to get your R9. Coming from an MT09SP, it'll feel familiar but different enough to warrant the swap. Ride safe. Thanks for contributing to the sport bike segment by ordering an R9.
Man! That white and red color scheme would be my choice if I bought an R9. I know what you mean, hard to give up such a great bike (the XSR900) for something you haven't actually seen yet. I've got a feeling these R9's are going to be a hit and all the haters will be nowhere to be found in 18 months.
I was always kind of against cruise control on a sport bike. I don’t want any unnecessary bits on my performance machine. Then I got the RSV4 which has cruise control and absolutely love it. Hahaha.
The “hate” on the R9 is manufactured so people can “dispute” it. Just saying you like something for being good isn’t enough to pull in clicks. Every single motovlogger and people in the moto/yahama threads all seem to love this thing.
I don't think the problem is that people don't want to buy an R6 or R1, it's that's the insurance companies screw you on anything with a fairing. That may be the reason that naked bikes are outselling sport bikes, simply because the monthly payments on sports bikes are just insane.
So do you not buy food anymore because the same thing used to cost half as much 12 years ago? You are also incorrect with the numbers anyways. A 2012 R1 was $13,990 MSRP, equivalent 2024 R1 base is $18,399 MSRP.
@@ridewithKY I have to buy groceries. It was easier to buy a cheaper bike back then all the way around. If your not that gen you wouldn’t understand. That era new bike were everywhere. Now… never see them. They’re to costly for the times. I’d have one but I’m not spending 20k on it… for an electronics package? No thanks.
Ok so do you only buy necessities now? You don’t buy ANYTHING discretionary anymore because the price has gone up? Don’t be ridiculous. Everything was cheaper “back then”. You are the guy that scoffs at how much everything costs so they just sit at home living in the 2010’s instead of enjoying what’s available now. Then in the same breath complain when manufacturers don’t make the bikes you want, when you had no real plan to buy one anyways.
@@ridewithKY or I’m not infatuated with stupid electronic packages that raised the cost 7k for no reason. It’s a pain to deal with and rarely used by most my friends that have new bikes or they get a tune and get rid of all the crap sinking more and more money into the bike. imo paying to get a tune to remove the electronics package crap is my entire point. Where as an other gen bike was more focused on the cost of actual upgrades. New shocks now are just as good as aftermarket then. I can justify that. Motor makes 30hp more, ok. Bike is 5kg less great!… we added this electronics package and now the bike cost 7k more. Wtf. Same thing for dirt. I still ride a 1986 atc250r. It’s an actual ride. Yfz, trx, ltr, kfx yeah they are fun but not like something raw. Going to dirt bikes it’s the same thing. Cr, yz, kx, rm. basically all the same bike but now with electronic packages that spiked the price. It’s stupid.
So you believe Yamaha should sell the 2024 R1 for the same price as the 2012 R1? Don't be ridiculous. Again, the 2012 R1 was $13,990 MSRP, the 2024 R1 is $18,399, this is your example by the way. That is a difference of $4,409, which is a little over 30% increase in cost from 2012 to 2024. No idea where you are getting the $7k number from. That number is contrary to your initial claims. I shouldn't be surprised though because first you claimed an increase of $12k from 2012 to 2024, now you are claiming $7k, when in reality it's a difference of $4k. If you've ever ridden a liter bike from the 2012 era versus a current generation liter bike, you would know it's not just an electronics package. There is certainly charm to those motorcycles from the 2000's and 2010's, but they are far and away from what we have now. It has nothing to do with the electronics. Over a period of 12 years, a 30% increase in cost is not outrageous. But keep pouting that manufacturers should not raise their prices over the period of a decade and keep telling yourself the only difference between your bike from the 80's and a current gen equivalent is the electronics.
Top speed is gonna be my main factor. If it tops at 130. I’m out. My r6,gsxr,cbr I could cruise dead highways at 130 commuting. If I’m going todo 70mph than I’ll take my truck.
No idea where you are getting 130 mph from. Current gen XSR900 and MT09 have a top speed of 148-150 mph. R9 has the same power with better aero so the top speed will be a little higher.
Again, the current gen XSR900 has a top speed of around 148, since the R9 is similar power but full faired, it should be even faster. 130 is way low, that's less than what an R7 tops out at. There was something wrong with your MT09 if it would only do 130.
Im a little bit upset about the price. Idk how much r9 gonna cost in western countries. But in middle east and sea county yamaha bike coat as much as ducati. Yamaha started to upped the price in 2018. The price of an r1 not the r1m, u just add extra 1000$ to get ducati v4s. Yamaha is chasing premium bike. But their bike doesn't have brembo brake,no forged aluminum wheel like ducati and good suspension ohlins like Ducati. Here in my country a 2023 r7 cost 17,700$. While the 2025 zx6r cost 13,600$. Most ppl didn't even buy Yamaha because how scummy they are with the price. If you got the money to buy r1, u better add extra 1000$ you can get v4s lmao. The ducati is way better deal. You get brembo brake,steel brake line, marchesini wheel,ohlin suspension,damper, also electronic suspension is very good. I used to like yamaha when rossi was racing and winning in MotoGP cuz at that time yamaha bike cost are very cheap, just like kawasaki and suzuki. After 2018 yamaha bike has gotten more and more expensive. At this point suzuki and Kawasaki is way better than yamaha. You only pay for the brand at this point.
In the states these are supposed to cost $12.5K. I'm sure there will be a markup initially but overall not bad for what you get. Unfortunate what Yamaha has done in your country. They make some very cool and interesting bikes, but being so close in price to more premium options makes it difficult to justify.
@GhostHammerX exactly… if it was shaking like crazy at 130 then it probably wasn’t safe to ride at 80 either. Could have been something as simple as tire pressure, but shaking at 130 is not normal for an MT09.
ZX-6R hp with MORE TORQUE....what's not to like??? Haters gonna hate, oh well. I think it'll be a fun bike and fun is what it's all about. If a person needs more then just get a liter bike, no problems.
You need to be rich to be a $12K bike? It's all relative, but the equation is simple... when we don't buy these so called "beloved" bikes like the R6 and R1, Yamaha won't make them.
@@ridewithKY I was joking and my joke was that you get a rich friend to buy multiple bikes so it would increase the sales and save the model.. So for this I'd say you'd have to be rich to single handedly achieve this.
Sorry about that, sometimes the sarcasm doesn’t come through text. Appreciate you taking the time to explain. If only we could do that so easily to twist Yamaha’s arm to continue the R6 and R1. Take care man.
I agree with you from start to finish. But, they just announced that they are "retiring" the R1, and announces R9 is atleast weird and to make people think that is a R1 replacement. Which, its stupid... Also, going from 4 to 3 cilinders, is a really big disappointment. Ignoring that, thinking that is a mid SS and the screamers will die, it should be a good motorcycle.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl the R9 is not the replacement for the R1 and the R7 was not the replacement for the R6. In North America at least, the R1 is going to be sold beside the R9.
Like the video but the facts are Yamaha is riding of great bikes over crappie replacements, I ride nothing but super sport & r9 is nothing like the r1, same with the r6 & r7. If Kawasaki & Honda are still pushing there super sport line so can Yamaha & Suzuki. It’s just gonna make them lose there super sport riders when we wanna trade in for the next gen
The r9 is not a replacement for the r1. For God's sake the r1 is still available here. The r7 was never meant to be a replacement for the r6. Yamaha has stated that in the releases of both these bikes. You can't replace an inline four 600 with a parallel twin 700. If you wanna say anything is trying to replace anything then you could say the r9 replaces the r6. The hp numbers are similar. As to why yamaha quit pushing the r6 it's pretty simple. If you produce products that constantly need updating to stay on top but regulations make it hard to do then throw in poor sales , are you going to spend millions in r&d to not make profits? No. If you need to spend more than you are making back then your not going to continue that product.
Appreciate the compliment, but as @danlford explained; the R9 isn't a replacement for the R1. Really the only thing that can replace an R1 is another R1. The R1 has rightfully earned its fan base, but the facts are they just don't sell strongly anymore. When we talk about Yamaha losing their super sport riders, they already have when you look at the numbers.
Sorry to comment at 3:46 BUT .. when you were listing differences up to this point you left out the sprocket sizes are different as well as the ECU Tune/MAP is “allegedly” going to be unique as well but please continue this is the video I’ve been looking for all week. Thanks 🙏
Don't apologize. Both good call outs on your part. I was just going purely off of the spec sheet on Yamaha's website instead of whatever media outlets are saying. Appreciate you chiming in, good points.
Ordered the white/red one the day after release. Excited to get back on 2 wheels after selling my 400 moving states! This bike basically has everything I want and am so happy for it finally being released! Plus my roommate as a 2014 R6 so it'll be fun to compare the 2 bikes.
You ordered my favorite color scheme out of the bunch. I’ve got a feeling you are going to really enjoy that R9. For $12k I don’t think there’s another bike I’d rather have. Very similar price to the RS660, but the R9 is better equipped and you aren’t going to have RS660 reliability issues. Enjoy your new bike when it arrives. 👊🏽.
@ridewithKY Thanks man and for sure! Now to just deal with the waiting until March 🤣
Very mature commentary on the subject matter. Thank you.
The R9 is actually on my shortlist for my next supersport and I haven’t really been as excited about Yamaha’s offerings in that segment since the early 2000s.
The RS660 currently has top slot for me, but I do have access to ride one pretty much when I want, so depending on how my demo experience with the R9 goes, we’ll see.
Thank you for the compliment and glad you found the video helpful.
RS660 is a fantastic bike and in a similar price range to the R9. Be a tough choice between it and the R9. If it were me, I'd probably go with the R9. Good luck with your selection process.
Going to see the R9 this weekend, my local Dealership has one to look at. Hopefully they will start it, let people sit on it. I think the price is spot on!!!
Engine is exactly the same as 2021-2024 MT09, more than likely you know someone who owns one.
@@michaeljkasnter where is the dealer?
Enjoy getting a first look at the R9. Spec is pretty strong for the price.
The motorcycle community needed this video ❤
Appreciate it. Thank you and so glad you found the video helpful. 👊🏽.
This the realest take I done heard! Salute to you king!🕺🏾💪🏾
Thank you so much for the support!
Love my 17 XSR900...I crush wind with my chest and face like Conan the Barbarian... if i were in the market I'd be super pumped for the R9
Picturing this is 😂😂😂. Cheers man, keep enjoying that XSR900.
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Love my 20 XSR900. Full exhaust and a few other mods/tweaks, and it does everything I want a motorcycle to do. CP3 engine is a gem. All that and only $33/mo for full coverage with $250 deductibles. Absolute steal compared to pretty much any other modern bike on the market!
Greta video! Yeah man I’m so tired of hearing people complaining about the R9. Pretty sure Yamaha knows what they are doing over some Joe off the street. Most people are closed minded and haven’t had experience on a variety of bikes to know what it’s meant for. It’s not meant to be a liter bike and it’s leaps better than an R7. R6 fanboys need to just let it die. Also the “it’s just an MT-09 with fairings” crap needs to stop. People need to do some research. 😂
😂😂😂. In 18 months all the haters will be nowhere to be found.
I've done my research and its a waste. You have a gp. How many models of the same horsepower are they going to make.
Yes finally a youtube content creator that understands that a R7 was never meant to be R6 replacement. Subscribed ❤
Appreciate it! Yamaha has been very clear the R7 was never meant to be an R6 replacement, it's just that nobody seems to listen. Plus everybody just loves to complain.
I love how we’re now spoiled for choice. Whereas before supersport mean full fairing 599cc nowadays we have faired twins, naked triples (765rs), and an Italian V twin still.
Of all the Ducatis the V2 has the most heritage IMO and hope it continues in the production line.
Absolutely. More options is always a good thing.
@MyToxicMasculinity you are actually not totally correct. the later R6’s were closer to 599 than they were to 600. Ninja bounced between 599 and 636 over the years. CBR was always 599 and GSXR was also always 599 other than the really old ones.
It is the 600cc class, that’s where the naming nomenclature comes from. However, bikes in that class were typically 599cc in reality. No need to be rude to others man.
Yamaha is offering alternatives and more choice for consumers and people are mad 😂
R9 is going to be a cool bike and everyone will grow to love it for what it is. For the price and specs it's going to be extremely competitive in the middleweight sport bike class. This is what the new Triumph Daytona should been.
Yamaha's choice to discontinue the R1 in other countries but not in the US sucks but gives the chance for everyone complaining to buy an R1 to potentially convince Yamaha to throw some money into their R&D to conform to the new emission standards in the future. Doubt they will do it since that same group of people say "why would I buy a new R1 when a used R1 is a couple thousand cheaper".
Also, the editing is tight
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Hahahaha. I have zero confidence these complainers will be buying an R1. Easier to just complain on the internet than it is to actually buy these bikes they say they love so much. If it's anything like the XSR900, the R9 will do well.
Great Great video bro. You earned my Sub. I feel the same way about the bike. I'm getting an R9. Putting my deposit down next month. Some videos I've seen about the R9 say it's alot bigger and better looking in person. So for me...its gonna be my first bike and I can't wait. Definitely gonna take the safety course. But thanks for doing this video bro.
Glad the video was helpful and nice to see you are putting your money where your mouth is by getting an R9. If the R9 is anything like the XSR900, you will not be disappointed. Thank you so much for the support.
When most Yamaha fans heard the R7 was on the way, we thought Yamaha YZF-R7 OW02, which would have been a fitting replacement for the famed R6, I can totally understand the disappointment with what came out. As far as the R9 looks cool, I might test-ride one. I'd give it a go if the YCRS has them on tap.
All fair points. Thank you.
Great video, The MT 09 SP likely the best bike in the line up, most practical as well as fun factor..... Looking at the RSV4 in the background, what was your experience with reliability ? The RS 660, is actually in this R9 segment and likely one of the best misses in a way for Aprillia because of so many reliability issues with the bike
MT09 SP is a great offering. You get a ton for just a hair over $12K. I've had the 2023 RSV4 since January of 2024. The only issue I've had with it so far was the finish on the fuel tank began to crack and split in various places. Aprilia accepted the warranty claim without issue. Took about 2 months to get the parts. Other than that, I have had no issues.
I agree with RS660. Awesome bikes, but the reliability is kinda scary on those.
I pre-ordered the R9 as soon as I heard it was being released the RX and the R1 really have no business on the street and they’re not a lot of fun. I’ve had both. I think this new bike is really gonna kick ass and sell really well.
Enjoy your R9. I think it will do well also honestly.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m already talking about upgrading, and the YZF-R9 is at the top of the list. It’s literally the best value for your money with all the technology you get that are seen on a Superbikes.
You said “more options out there,” KTM’s new 990 RC R also has the same concept as the YZF-R9, but with the reputation of Euro-brands and for the price, I’m leaning towards the Yamaha because of the proven reliability of Japanese brands.
Good call out with the 990. I had a KTM at one time and I would not buy another. The lack of quality on KTM motorcycles is ridiculous.
Great points! I think people hate on it coz they want to be blown away and or impressed.
It's like they just wanted the R7 and R9 to be their dream bike just to worship and go Woohhhh
I get it. On the other perspective - The R6 is an iconic bike (won everything in it's class and has an amazing engine) and people wanted anything that came after to be as iconic or even better.
But Yamaha closed the R6 chapter.
R7 or R9 is not a successor to the R6-it's a different type of bike and it's where the market currently is. Just look at the 650 class from Kawa and Honda or rs660 bikes.
I have an R6, and I'll probably not replace it, but the R9 seems like a cool bike, and I'm excited to test-ride it.
Absolutely agree man. Yamaha is here to sell bikes and they are trying to piggy back off the MT09/XSR900 success. When we look at what happened with the success of the R7, stands to reason the logic is there to believe the R9 will also do well.
Any sport bike enthusiast has a soft spot for the R6 and the R1, but business is business and as you’ve stated, the market for the R6 just isn’t there anymore. Maybe at some point they’ll make a resurgence, but if everybody keeps buying naked bikes that won’t happen. Take care man, appreciate the perspective from an actual R6 owner.
You speak the total truth, well done. A decent rider would be quicker on their local twisties on a R9 than a R6 or R1, that usable torque will rocket out of corners. Usable power wins for me.
Appreciate the complement, thank you!
Well put together video
Appreciate the support, thank you!
I put fairings on my xsr900. Now it's very difficult to determine if making the switch to the R9 is worth it. I know I would really like the bike, but would it be worth it? I have a LOT of money invested into my XSR already 😩
If you have a lot invested and really like the XSR still, I would just keep it honestly. I’m sure the fairings make it a lot more pleasurable to ride. That was really my only complaint with the XSR, just too much wind for me. Either way, ride safe bro.
I mean they aren’t wrong saying it is no replacement for the r6 or r1. I think the r9 is fine and will be a great street bike but I still want the other bikes as well.
i actually like litteraly everything about the r9, other than 1 thing. the sound of the cp3 engine, im still not sure about it. i was gonna buy the zx6r, great engine sound but the r9 is just much more bike for the money, the tech and everything else is just better. and as i said the only thing still holding me back is the sound of the cp3. i never heard it IRL tho, do you think it sounds better in person IRL than what videos show ? cuz if it is there no bike that compares to the r9 at the price
I agree on the sound unfortunately. I’m not a fan of the sound of triples, including the CP3. I would say videos capture the tone pretty well. However, I’ll also say I’m not a fan of inline 4’s either other than the crossplane Yamahas.
I've got an XSR900 with a Black Widow full exhaust setup... I've previously had half a dozen 600cc I4s, half a dozen 1,000cc I4s, a 1200cc I4, and a few twins... IMO the CP3 is the best sounding bike I've ever owned or ridden. The intake sound + modified exhaust sound, to me, is about as good as it gets.
@@apexcobra.official wdym by the intake aound ? And what exhausts do u prefer with it ? The black widow is the one you use rn ?
@TheGameDealer You can hear the intake growling / howling on these bikes, it's pretty loud and aggressive sounding. Only one of the other 15 bikes I've had you could hear the intake at all.
The 24 MT09 has the intact tacts tuned specifically for sound and to increase engagement, I assume the R9 will have a similar setup.
I've only heard the Black Widow I have in person and wouldn't change a thing, it sounds mint. Probably the growliest / most aggressive sounding bike I've experienced when you're on the throttle at all over say 5,500rpm. Like absolute music to my ears.
I put my order through for the R9 and will most likely be swapping my current gen 4 MT-09 SP. I'm wondering if an R9M is coming since i like that silver paint work from the SP.
To much negativity on the Internet anyways Yamaha has done a great job with the R9.
I'm sure you can't wait to get your R9. Coming from an MT09SP, it'll feel familiar but different enough to warrant the swap. Ride safe.
Thanks for contributing to the sport bike segment by ordering an R9.
I put a deposit down on the white/red R9 the day after it was announced. Just can't decide if I'll get rid of my XSR900.
Man! That white and red color scheme would be my choice if I bought an R9. I know what you mean, hard to give up such a great bike (the XSR900) for something you haven't actually seen yet. I've got a feeling these R9's are going to be a hit and all the haters will be nowhere to be found in 18 months.
@@ridewithKYI agree
Who makes that seat on the XSR900?
It’s a Kelpi seat
This guy spittin!
😂😂😂 appreciate you
And it has Cruise Control
I was always kind of against cruise control on a sport bike. I don’t want any unnecessary bits on my performance machine. Then I got the RSV4 which has cruise control and absolutely love it. Hahaha.
@@ridewithKY😂. Guess it's good to give the wrist a break sometimes
I’m getting one
I don’t think you will be disappointed!
I think the r9 will do well
I agree. I think it will be a strong seller for Yamaha.
The “hate” on the R9 is manufactured so people can “dispute” it. Just saying you like something for being good isn’t enough to pull in clicks. Every single motovlogger and people in the moto/yahama threads all seem to love this thing.
Good points. It’s true, being a contrarian will get you more clicks. Take care, appreciate you sharing.
I don't think the problem is that people don't want to buy an R6 or R1, it's that's the insurance companies screw you on anything with a fairing. That may be the reason that naked bikes are outselling sport bikes, simply because the monthly payments on sports bikes are just insane.
Good points regarding the insurance.
If the people complaining about the R9 being slow were honest about their ability they wouldn't need more than a Ninja 400.
Haha! Exactly!
*Steel braided brake lines for the r9, compared to the sp...
Good callout on that one. Thank you.
6:22 don’t by them because they’re 25k they use to be 13k 12years ago.
So do you not buy food anymore because the same thing used to cost half as much 12 years ago? You are also incorrect with the numbers anyways. A 2012 R1 was $13,990 MSRP, equivalent 2024 R1 base is $18,399 MSRP.
@@ridewithKY I have to buy groceries. It was easier to buy a cheaper bike back then all the way around. If your not that gen you wouldn’t understand. That era new bike were everywhere. Now… never see them. They’re to costly for the times. I’d have one but I’m not spending 20k on it… for an electronics package? No thanks.
Ok so do you only buy necessities now? You don’t buy ANYTHING discretionary anymore because the price has gone up? Don’t be ridiculous. Everything was cheaper “back then”. You are the guy that scoffs at how much everything costs so they just sit at home living in the 2010’s instead of enjoying what’s available now. Then in the same breath complain when manufacturers don’t make the bikes you want, when you had no real plan to buy one anyways.
@@ridewithKY or I’m not infatuated with stupid electronic packages that raised the cost 7k for no reason. It’s a pain to deal with and rarely used by most my friends that have new bikes or they get a tune and get rid of all the crap sinking more and more money into the bike. imo paying to get a tune to remove the electronics package crap is my entire point. Where as an other gen bike was more focused on the cost of actual upgrades. New shocks now are just as good as aftermarket then. I can justify that. Motor makes 30hp more, ok. Bike is 5kg less great!… we added this electronics package and now the bike cost 7k more. Wtf.
Same thing for dirt. I still ride a 1986 atc250r. It’s an actual ride. Yfz, trx, ltr, kfx yeah they are fun but not like something raw.
Going to dirt bikes it’s the same thing. Cr, yz, kx, rm. basically all the same bike but now with electronic packages that spiked the price. It’s stupid.
So you believe Yamaha should sell the 2024 R1 for the same price as the 2012 R1? Don't be ridiculous. Again, the 2012 R1 was $13,990 MSRP, the 2024 R1 is $18,399, this is your example by the way. That is a difference of $4,409, which is a little over 30% increase in cost from 2012 to 2024. No idea where you are getting the $7k number from. That number is contrary to your initial claims. I shouldn't be surprised though because first you claimed an increase of $12k from 2012 to 2024, now you are claiming $7k, when in reality it's a difference of $4k.
If you've ever ridden a liter bike from the 2012 era versus a current generation liter bike, you would know it's not just an electronics package. There is certainly charm to those motorcycles from the 2000's and 2010's, but they are far and away from what we have now. It has nothing to do with the electronics.
Over a period of 12 years, a 30% increase in cost is not outrageous. But keep pouting that manufacturers should not raise their prices over the period of a decade and keep telling yourself the only difference between your bike from the 80's and a current gen equivalent is the electronics.
The headlight looks weird, that’s really all I have to add to this 😂
Hahaha! It is a little strange but I'm hoping we get used to it after some time. At first it takes a while to get used to a refresh.
Top speed is gonna be my main factor. If it tops at 130. I’m out. My r6,gsxr,cbr I could cruise dead highways at 130 commuting. If I’m going todo 70mph than I’ll take my truck.
No idea where you are getting 130 mph from. Current gen XSR900 and MT09 have a top speed of 148-150 mph. R9 has the same power with better aero so the top speed will be a little higher.
@@ridewithKY my mt09 not tuned to keep warranty only did 130. I sold it shortly.
If the R9 can stretch its legs than I’m in.
No idea what year your MT09 was from but in stock form it should have been able to go faster than 130...
Again, the current gen XSR900 has a top speed of around 148, since the R9 is similar power but full faired, it should be even faster. 130 is way low, that's less than what an R7 tops out at. There was something wrong with your MT09 if it would only do 130.
Even an R7 gets more than 130 😂
background music is too loud. good video tho
Im a little bit upset about the price. Idk how much r9 gonna cost in western countries. But in middle east and sea county yamaha bike coat as much as ducati. Yamaha started to upped the price in 2018. The price of an r1 not the r1m, u just add extra 1000$ to get ducati v4s. Yamaha is chasing premium bike. But their bike doesn't have brembo brake,no forged aluminum wheel like ducati and good suspension ohlins like Ducati.
Here in my country a 2023 r7 cost 17,700$. While the 2025 zx6r cost 13,600$. Most ppl didn't even buy Yamaha because how scummy they are with the price. If you got the money to buy r1, u better add extra 1000$ you can get v4s lmao. The ducati is way better deal. You get brembo brake,steel brake line, marchesini wheel,ohlin suspension,damper, also electronic suspension is very good.
I used to like yamaha when rossi was racing and winning in MotoGP cuz at that time yamaha bike cost are very cheap, just like kawasaki and suzuki. After 2018 yamaha bike has gotten more and more expensive. At this point suzuki and Kawasaki is way better than yamaha. You only pay for the brand at this point.
In the states these are supposed to cost $12.5K. I'm sure there will be a markup initially but overall not bad for what you get. Unfortunate what Yamaha has done in your country. They make some very cool and interesting bikes, but being so close in price to more premium options makes it difficult to justify.
I absolutely hated my mt09. If the r9 is slow af my mt was limited 130, shakes like crazy, and death wobble at 80+ then I’m 100% out of the r9.
Sounds like your MT09 wasn’t setup properly. =\
@GhostHammerX exactly… if it was shaking like crazy at 130 then it probably wasn’t safe to ride at 80 either. Could have been something as simple as tire pressure, but shaking at 130 is not normal for an MT09.
@@ridewithKY mine doesn’t shake at 150mph…and I highly doubt the R9 will either.
@GhostHammerX agreed. I’m confident the R9 will have no issues at that speed. 130 top speed is like R7 level. Take care, ride safe.
These new bikes they making are for those who couldn’t afford a new super sport due to all the upgrades they come with now
The bikes in this category are a lot more attainable for most people that's for sure. Fair point.
It's missing top end. So simple !
ZX-6R hp with MORE TORQUE....what's not to like??? Haters gonna hate, oh well. I think it'll be a fun bike and fun is what it's all about. If a person needs more then just get a liter bike, no problems.
For sure. A lot more torque. Some people are just never happy. Cheers man.
So tell our rich friend to buy lots of bikes to save the platform 😂
Got it.
You need to be rich to be a $12K bike? It's all relative, but the equation is simple... when we don't buy these so called "beloved" bikes like the R6 and R1, Yamaha won't make them.
@@ridewithKY I was joking and my joke was that you get a rich friend to buy multiple bikes so it would increase the sales and save the model.. So for this I'd say you'd have to be rich to single handedly achieve this.
Sorry about that, sometimes the sarcasm doesn’t come through text. Appreciate you taking the time to explain. If only we could do that so easily to twist Yamaha’s arm to continue the R6 and R1. Take care man.
@@ridewithKY no problem totally understandable you're right.. Keep up the great content.. I find your content very informative
Appreciate you being gracious about it. I will keep doing my best and thank you for the support. 👊🏽.
Bro u Have 2 Monsters behind you. MORE HP!
4:12 Was really hoping for a meme of an Asian kid making vtec sounds
😂😂😂😂
I agree with you from start to finish. But, they just announced that they are "retiring" the R1, and announces R9 is atleast weird and to make people think that is a R1 replacement. Which, its stupid...
Also, going from 4 to 3 cilinders, is a really big disappointment.
Ignoring that, thinking that is a mid SS and the screamers will die, it should be a good motorcycle.
The R9 is replacing the R1, the R7 replaced the R6. All 4 cylinder motorcycles will be gone by 2030... get used to it.
Good points @TheMbertaglia .
@JoeStanek-vu7rl the R9 is not the replacement for the R1 and the R7 was not the replacement for the R6. In North America at least, the R1 is going to be sold beside the R9.
@@ridewithKY till 2027
@JoeStanek-vu7rl okay… so again it’s not a replacement for the R1. You don’t sell a replacement alongside its predecessor for 2 years.
That's how capitalism works. You vote with your dollar.
I agree.
Like the video but the facts are Yamaha is riding of great bikes over crappie replacements, I ride nothing but super sport & r9 is nothing like the r1, same with the r6 & r7. If Kawasaki & Honda are still pushing there super sport line so can Yamaha & Suzuki. It’s just gonna make them lose there super sport riders when we wanna trade in for the next gen
The r9 is not a replacement for the r1. For God's sake the r1 is still available here. The r7 was never meant to be a replacement for the r6. Yamaha has stated that in the releases of both these bikes. You can't replace an inline four 600 with a parallel twin 700. If you wanna say anything is trying to replace anything then you could say the r9 replaces the r6. The hp numbers are similar.
As to why yamaha quit pushing the r6 it's pretty simple. If you produce products that constantly need updating to stay on top but regulations make it hard to do then throw in poor sales , are you going to spend millions in r&d to not make profits? No. If you need to spend more than you are making back then your not going to continue that product.
Appreciate the compliment, but as @danlford explained; the R9 isn't a replacement for the R1. Really the only thing that can replace an R1 is another R1. The R1 has rightfully earned its fan base, but the facts are they just don't sell strongly anymore. When we talk about Yamaha losing their super sport riders, they already have when you look at the numbers.
But under 120hp 😂😂!!!
It's too slow.
😂😂😂
R9= slow 9.
Low IQ comment that's not even true try and bait better lil feller