@@rynocubs23they're heads up. At that point either one can say anything that can affect the result of the hand. The dealer is definitely wrong, and he can definitely say the amount of the pot. They both can also make a request for the pot size. I don't understand whats the issue is here as it is well known you can talk during a heads up but not if it's a multi way pot or if you're not in the hand.
This ain’t your grandpas home game. This is the WSOP with pages of rules. Every other player player still in the tournament has a stake in the outcome of this hand
Can’t possibly make that statement without knowing the action. He might’ve check raised flop and then double barrelled (perfectly possible with 96o) and which point QQ is nothing but a pure bluff catcher
@@GabrielMartinez-fw2fv yea but your comment makes no sense without the side action. Folding QQ here might be a very good idea, your comments implies it’s a bad idea
I can't stand Kassouf because he's a huge asshole, but at every single card room I've played in, if it's heads up with you and one other person, you can talk about the hand. You only can't talk about the hand if the pot is multiway.
@@billybegood466 This is a tournament tho. And cash game is also Casino specific. SOme places you can't show your hole cards or talk about them. The problem is people put one rule on every casino/tournament and think it's god. Many are but some aren't, this is a WSOP event so yeah tournament. I've played in tournaments you can show your hole cards heads up but these days most tournaments you can't
I don't know where you're playing but in every single card room I've ever been in all over the country for nearly 30 years now you cannot directly discuss with anyone what any player should or should not do with their hand.
That fold isn't as ridiculous as the fact that you can't talk to your opponent in heads-up anymore. Getting in your opponents head with tabletalk is one of the oldest, most fundamental things in poker. You'll even see it in OLD movies that portrayed even OLDER times. Also, if you played poker more than 10 years ago.. hell, even just more than 6 years ago.. it was something that was extremely common. All these online players who weren't used to socially interacting with anybody pitched a fit about it, plus a few crybabies like Hellmouth (even though he does it himself) got a new rule introduced that isn't only anti-American (anti-free speech), but anti-poker as well.
@@jonslg240lmao free speech has absolutely nothing to do with any rules regarding tabletalk (or lack thereof) during poker hands. Free speech means the government can't charge him with a crime for talking. It doesn't mean the casino can't make or enforce whatever rules it wants regarding what you can or can't say during a hand.
We all know he’s a bit annoying with his talk and tanking but he never broke a single rule. If you see her interview after she busted she even mentions how she would have called if he wasn’t talking and in her head so much. So basically he found a way to get an opponents chips which is the job of any poker player. I probably wouldn’t wanna hang out with the guy but the ruling was pretty weak
@@feeltheslipstream Those multiple people were mostly upset because his annoyance was LEGAL and by TDA rules there’s nothing they can do other than give him that 1 time out. Even angle shooting, which is hated by the entire poker community, is technically LEGAL. That’s why it’s called an angle shoot and also why floor was so frustrated that they were handcuffed not being able to go down harder on Will
🤣🤣🤣 "sick bluff 9 high like a boss" No one can influence you if you're a good player he actually showed a lot of weaknesses there she made a mistake folding no reason to complain about it
Sitting in front of your keyboard being able to see all the cards makes typing something stupid easy I guess.... feeding your ego didn't work very well on this one....
This was one of the most idiotic decisions ever by a tournament director/floor manager. Kassouf is annoying, but he did nothing wrong based on the rules of poker. Heads up, you can talk all you want to get in the heads of opponents. Threatening a penalty for him waving his hands was abuse of power. The only thing you can't do in a tournament is show a card before a player acts because your hand is automatically dead.
Yea. People just don’t like the way he talks and looks. The hand he got knocked out on made me so mad. Berger had Aa over Kk and acted like he was a god.
you can talk but you cant say anything you want, i believe he said an amount , which is misleading, cause he could be lying, say you ask the person you are up against of how much you have left, say you have 500k and you tell the person 300k , knowing you have 500k, so you said whatever, but mislead , and then you cant make threats, like verbal threats like, dont call of something gonna happen to you, so thats another illegal talk, even sign language, like putting your finger across your throat, saying im gonna kill you if you call, so back to saying what ever you want , you are wrong
@@thavonephanthavongsa4962 Yeah but it's a no-brainer that a player can't say what they want. I'm saying heads up you can talk all you want. Speech play is perfectly legal as long as there's no verbal abuse. His plan was to get in her head, and it worked. You don't have to give a player an exact count when they ask, that's up to the dealer to count chips if they ask. So I can say I have about $500K when I really only have $300K and it's the dealer's job to verify the real amount. If you can't handle another player talking to you at a poker table, then you're not mentality tough enough to win. She needed to be able to block him out.
@@CP-zk4qq The video looks pretty old. When I trained for dealing poker, I found it to be disappointing too, but it actually makes sense, because otherwise you just get nonstop talking.
Gestures can give away clues to other players. If you fold, then your folded hand hits on the next card and you throw your head back or throw your hands up, it tips other players off which cards aren't in play, so it's not allowed.
WTF? "You cannot say what's in the pot." BS. Then ask the dealer what is in the pot - make the jackass count it down even. Stopping a player from saying another word? No hand gestures? Nonsense. This is heads up play and he can say whatever he wants. This is just a bunch of men swooping in to protect a woman. Let her fight her own battles.
Dealer won’t tell you what’s in the pot unless it’s a pot limit game. WSOP has been pretty strict on table talk that can influence action for 10+ years now, so no, you also can’t “say whatever you want” because you’re heads up. Maybe know what you’re talking about before leaving arrogant comments?
@@Kanders190 it's literally in their rule book that it is allowed to talk about the situation in a heads up. Also yes you can ask for pot size as a player can literally bet pot, if I say I bet pot verbally it would be literally counted to bet the pot. It isn't just pot limit. You can ask the dealer how much the pot is and you can ask for a chip count of your opponent. You have zero clue what you're talking about.
Here is the WSOP Rule on table talk. See Special Exception 2: 116. Table Talk / Disclosure: Participants are obligated to always protect the other Participants in the Tournament. Therefore, whether in a hand or not, Participants may not: a. Disclose contents of live or folded hands. b. Advise or criticize play at any time. c. Read a hand that hasn't been tabled. d. Discuss strategy with an outside source while involved in a hand. e. The one-Participant-to-a-hand rule mentioned in Rule 113 will be enforced. Special Exceptions: 1. A Participant is allowed to mention the strength or content of his/her hand if no other Participant in the hand will have a decision to make. 2. In heads-up Events or when down to the last two Participants in a Tournament, Participants may speak freely regarding the contents of their hands. 3. The Floor Person reserves the right use his/her judgment to determine if one Participant intentionally helped another Participant. Participants who violate this rule are subject to penalty in accordance with Rules 40, 113, and 114.
This wouldn't fall under rule 2. This is not a HU tournament and it is not down to the last 2 participants, there are many people remaining. Unless they mean the remaining players in a particular hand, but I took it as meaning the tournament is down to two players.
@@smackinmatt this is heads-up events... That's why it is literally made specific of a heads-up situation AND LAST TWO PARTICIPANTS. Meaning they made it clear that they mean heads up is when there's two players left in a hand and the situation of two players left in the tournament.
@@Kanders190 it literally does. This is a heads up situation where two players left in a hand is literally called HEADS UP. They made it clear that is what the rule is talking about by distinguishing of the event there are two players left in a tournament.
@@blowc1612 It’s not a HU event, and they aren’t the last two participants left in the tournament. The hand, yes, the entire tournament, no. Therefore, neither stipulation in #2 of that rule apply. Considering you were in another thread on this same video saying the dealer would have to count the pot if either player asked, I’m not sure where you get off acting so adamant about rules you clearly aren’t familiar with.
I remember, in 1986, I was playing 2-7 Razz at the Stardust Casino poker room. A player was sniveling about a bad beat and making disparaging remarks about the winner of the pot. The guy was peaceable and took it in stride. This made the loser furious he couldn't make the other guy lose his composure. They were across the table from each other. The antagonist then took the olive out of his drink 🍸 and flung it at the winner. It bonked off his nose. I'm telling the truth, the guy dove across the table and landed on dude before the olive hit the ground. Security was already at the side of the poker room and although they were on the job the winner couldn't be torn off the jerk. He had legs around the fool's body (now crying like a b!@#$). Lock on, he took a bite out of dude's face, gouged his eyes and "BONKED" his nose. Eventually, cops came to assist as security was finally able to tear him off the DF. I had the 3 seat, winner 5 seat, jerk 9 seat. The game was interrupted 10-15 minutes. Everybody gave a statement, not one supported the olive thrower, they still had to arrest the winner, due to the damage, but he was a hero a week later when he returned. Not 86d, but the olive guy was, he had a reputation for starting crap. Too bad there's no "Wring his neck" button for online games
That's the best part about playing poker in person.Because you get to read your opponent and try to guess when they're nervous or when they're confident and you bluff them out when you don't have it.They are trying to take away some of the best strategies in poker
I have a feeling the director staff is favoriting the women because he is simping or just because table complained ive seen that alot sometimes the rules depends of the moods
Other players complained a lot. They said he was using his 'white privilege' whatever that means. They also said he was being abusive. He was just getting inside their heads.
Table talk is great when someone knows how to limit it. Will, however, would table talk excessively. To the point where people are blatantly ignoring his talk and he would continue to talk for minutes to get a reaction. Making the overall experience very unpleasant!
Absolutely atrocious behavior...by the tournament. Speech play is and has always been a big part of the game. He's not screaming, cussing, making threats or being unhinged. He's squarely inside the rules of decorum. And skillfully so. That's what the others are upset about. That they aren't used to playing under such conditions. I get that. Most players don't have a knack for this. Kasouf does.
Table talk isn't allowed because it slows down play. My suggestion is to give every player a short clock for every hand (1.5-2 minutes max). Speech play is very important and should never die.
One time I went all in and the table ask that guy what he had he told them and he said he's thinking of folding the table said they would call person after person I said I am done playing
u obvs haven't seen the finals when he talks for like 10min with KK pre-flop for literally no gd reason lmao. He talked *SOO* much in spots where it literally doesn't matter... don't say "as much as you want"
If they are heads up, you can say whatever you want. If there are 3 or more people in the hand, you are not allowed to say anything related to the hand at all and should get a penalty.
To everyone wondering why dealer/floor told him to stfu is because he said ‘there is x in the pot’. Which can be considered as type of angling as he can imply that pot is bigger or smaller than it actually is, thus immorally influencing her action. Pot is in the middle of the table and every player can see and calculate for themselves. And unfortunately for the poker community he is a master in these borderline angles.
He's IN THE HAND! Guys like Hellmuth and Negreanu do this all the time. It's the best part of watching. They take this away and ratings will straight up crash.
"Heads up" means FINAL 2 people in a tournament...not final 2 people in a hand. ...other people in the tournament can still be affected eventhough they are not in this hand. WSOP rules are clear that he is in violation here.
F that rule, if you’re in the hand 1v1 talking should be allowed. Trust me, talking gives away a lot of clues. I’ve made a lot of right calls because guys that I’ve gone up against spoke too much lol
I've encountered someone like that before, I ask him to stop talking to me but he wouldn't so I had called him every time he was talking like that and fold it when he didn't talk as much..... and rumored have that someone else had beaten him up pretty badly putting him in hospital, guess to say he never show up again lol
He was clearly talking about his hand in action. She was provoked and asked "your going to show me a worse hand" and he said "I'm not" that is table talk. She never talked about her hand.
It's tourney play and we don't know how the hand unfolded the starting position of the players, the blind levels, or how many players remain. Anyone dogging the fold is clueless. A4♣️ AND A4♥️ is still a valid threat depending on the circumstances.
I encourage table talk amongst the players in the hand but I can’t stand table talk with people out of the hand. In fact I lost one of the worst hand s ever because of outside table talk I had flush draw on the turn with a jam and everyone was talking 💩 about the jammer to me and I was tanking. I was really 70/30 calling but was TANKING. After about 1-2 solid minutes of nonsense I couldn’t think straight and folded. Asked for a run out (curiosity kills the cat). Flush hit and I was so livid. Never went to their house game after that, felt manipulated
She handled it terribly. Let him talk, use the clues to make a decision.
Women.
Women…
Wamen
She just wanted to win the hand with no risk, she was hoping Jack Effel would just fold his hand.
Women..
Table talk is the best part of poker. He was talking like he had the nuts
Except whenever anyone says, "I'll show," it usually means they're bluffing 😂
@@davidlee9572id love to play with you bc I say that when I have the nuts or a top 3 hand.
Usually the more talk the better. Most, not all, people give something away. If you are not good at it practice or just observe.
@@hickoryst.6961Lol you wouldn't make it in any kind of sport or real competition.
He was talking like a bus he said it himself
9 high like a boss 😂😂😂😂😂
Brutal though right!
Kasouf legacy right there
Legend
I remember watching this in 2016, it became a saying back then. However, like most things, largely lost to time.
Since when is table talk against the rules?
Can't say anything that may influence action in the hand. That's always been a rule
This dude doesn't know poker
@@rynocubs23 That's if you're not in the hand.
@@rynocubs23they're heads up. At that point either one can say anything that can affect the result of the hand. The dealer is definitely wrong, and he can definitely say the amount of the pot. They both can also make a request for the pot size.
I don't understand whats the issue is here as it is well known you can talk during a heads up but not if it's a multi way pot or if you're not in the hand.
@@heraldosurpriz7059It also has to be heads up. You can't talk to affect the hand of it's a multiway pot too.
If you’re in the hand, talk all the fuck you want
Update: keep it going guys 1.7K likes and 42 replies. Love it!
Exactly!!
IKR!?!?!
isnt this common sense?
I would say only if it's heads up. Otherwise you're influencing other people's actions
This ain’t your grandpas home game. This is the WSOP with pages of rules. Every other player player still in the tournament has a stake in the outcome of this hand
If your folding qq on that board you cant be mad at anything that happens
Can’t possibly make that statement without knowing the action. He might’ve check raised flop and then double barrelled (perfectly possible with 96o) and which point QQ is nothing but a pure bluff catcher
@@Runnerboy2012 thats why i commented on what was on the video nobody knows the side action so u can only comment on what the video shows
@@GabrielMartinez-fw2fv yea but your comment makes no sense without the side action. Folding QQ here might be a very good idea, your comments implies it’s a bad idea
Enjoy your day brutha
its so easy when you can see the cards
I hate the floor men for preventing him from speaking. Its the best part of poker
Heads up too
That was the head of WSOP. Jack is a prick
U guys obvs haven't seen his later hands lmao. He chats for like 10mins with KK *pre-flop* -there's literally no reason.
Kassouf is the most annoying and offensive POS in the game... I'm really surprised this got has never been beat up. Jack is a prick when he has to be.
Bad sportsmanship is not "the best part" of poker, any game, or any sport. Bad sportsmanship suxks
I can't stand Kassouf because he's a huge asshole, but at every single card room I've played in, if it's heads up with you and one other person, you can talk about the hand. You only can't talk about the hand if the pot is multiway.
Not true. You can't reveal your hand anymore in WSOP tournament. You also can't tell your opponent what they should do anymore.
@@Raynore999 Must be tournament specific. In cash games you can talk if it's heads up.
@@billybegood466 This is a tournament tho. And cash game is also Casino specific. SOme places you can't show your hole cards or talk about them. The problem is people put one rule on every casino/tournament and think it's god. Many are but some aren't, this is a WSOP event so yeah tournament. I've played in tournaments you can show your hole cards heads up but these days most tournaments you can't
for some reasons tournaments are different
I don't know where you're playing but in every single card room I've ever been in all over the country for nearly 30 years now you cannot directly discuss with anyone what any player should or should not do with their hand.
Wow,she laid that down from his mouth mojo...
That fold isn't as ridiculous as the fact that you can't talk to your opponent in heads-up anymore.
Getting in your opponents head with tabletalk is one of the oldest, most fundamental things in poker. You'll even see it in OLD movies that portrayed even OLDER times.
Also, if you played poker more than 10 years ago.. hell, even just more than 6 years ago.. it was something that was extremely common.
All these online players who weren't used to socially interacting with anybody pitched a fit about it, plus a few crybabies like Hellmouth (even though he does it himself) got a new rule introduced that isn't only anti-American (anti-free speech), but anti-poker as well.
@@jonslg240"anti American"😂😂😂
Bro is huffing glue
@@jonslg240lmao free speech has absolutely nothing to do with any rules regarding tabletalk (or lack thereof) during poker hands. Free speech means the government can't charge him with a crime for talking. It doesn't mean the casino can't make or enforce whatever rules it wants regarding what you can or can't say during a hand.
"9 High Like A Boss..." 😂🤣😂
We all know he’s a bit annoying with his talk and tanking but he never broke a single rule. If you see her interview after she busted she even mentions how she would have called if he wasn’t talking and in her head so much.
So basically he found a way to get an opponents chips which is the job of any poker player.
I probably wouldn’t wanna hang out with the guy but the ruling was pretty weak
He should be penalized. The warning was wrong
@@paulmichalek1858 Okay. Explain.
Multiple people told him he broke rules.
This was not a cash game.
I can testify you would 100% want to hangout with Will. He's a blast!
@@feeltheslipstream Those multiple people were mostly upset because his annoyance was LEGAL and by TDA rules there’s nothing they can do other than give him that 1 time out.
Even angle shooting, which is hated by the entire poker community, is technically LEGAL. That’s why it’s called an angle shoot and also why floor was so frustrated that they were handcuffed not being able to go down harder on Will
🤣🤣🤣 "sick bluff 9 high like a boss" No one can influence you if you're a good player he actually showed a lot of weaknesses there she made a mistake folding no reason to complain about it
If your folding qq as last aggresor preflop and get the most safe runout against a reg ever you need to stop playing poker
She didn’t wanna bust. Seeing the cards certainly helps us pass judgement. If you do the math there’s certainly a lot that can beat her.
Sitting in front of your keyboard being able to see all the cards makes typing something stupid easy I guess.... feeding your ego didn't work very well on this one....
If you're the last aggressor preflop then that runout can easily smack your opponent's range.
@@marcroger8367seeing the cards didn’t matter, judging by those cards she would have folded against anything.
This was one of the most idiotic decisions ever by a tournament director/floor manager.
Kassouf is annoying, but he did nothing wrong based on the rules of poker.
Heads up, you can talk all you want to get in the heads of opponents. Threatening a penalty for him waving his hands was abuse of power.
The only thing you can't do in a tournament is show a card before a player acts because your hand is automatically dead.
Yea. People just don’t like the way he talks and looks. The hand he got knocked out on made me so mad. Berger had Aa over Kk and acted like he was a god.
Maybe this was a direct result of the opponent being a woman.
you can talk but you cant say anything you want, i believe he said an amount , which is misleading, cause he could be lying, say you ask the person you are up against of how much you have left, say you have 500k and you tell the person 300k , knowing you have 500k, so you said whatever, but mislead , and then you cant make threats, like verbal threats like, dont call of something gonna happen to you, so thats another illegal talk, even sign language, like putting your finger across your throat, saying im gonna kill you if you call, so back to saying what ever you want , you are wrong
@@thavonephanthavongsa4962 Yeah but it's a no-brainer that a player can't say what they want. I'm saying heads up you can talk all you want.
Speech play is perfectly legal as long as there's no verbal abuse. His plan was to get in her head, and it worked.
You don't have to give a player an exact count when they ask, that's up to the dealer to count chips if they ask. So I can say I have about $500K when I really only have $300K and it's the dealer's job to verify the real amount.
If you can't handle another player talking to you at a poker table, then you're not mentality tough enough to win. She needed to be able to block him out.
@@johno8425 k what if you say im gonna kill myself if i dont win this pot, that would influence the hand, what you gonna say about that
Floor was completely out of line. He broke no rules. She's allowed to talk but he's not?
Tournament poker is different than TV poker. It is against the rules. The dealer and floor didn't just make that up.
@@CP-zk4qq The video looks pretty old. When I trained for dealing poker, I found it to be disappointing too, but it actually makes sense, because otherwise you just get nonstop talking.
@@CP-zk4qq If 10 years is new, then I guess you can call it new.
Look at what happened to Sunshine when he wouldn't stop flapping his gums!
He got her to fold on a big hand. So it was the “right” move 🤷♂️
Everywhere you go, someone's trying to control you.
Everywhere you go, somebody is trying to assert dominance at your behest.
Let the man talk he’s in her head🤣🤣
You're not allowed to say anything that influences action in the hand.
@@rynocubs23liberal snowflakes ruining poker
@@albinothug spoken like a true fish
@@rynocubs23 Speech play has always been a part of the game.
@rynocubs23 he's in the Hand. U can say to call or fold n stuff like that. I don't understand what's happening
We all understand he’s annoying. But not letting him speak or make gestures is insane
You can talk all you want but you can’t influence actions.. he was totally out of line
Gestures can give away clues to other players. If you fold, then your folded hand hits on the next card and you throw your head back or throw your hands up, it tips other players off which cards aren't in play, so it's not allowed.
@@timturner6356nonsense. You can say anything you want when it’s heads up.
@@timturner6356so don’t play the game then at that point
@@timturner6356 Seriously wtf are you smoking? Absolute nonsense. The whole point of table talk is to influence your opponents action.
Table talk is the fun part of poker come on man
WTF? "You cannot say what's in the pot." BS. Then ask the dealer what is in the pot - make the jackass count it down even. Stopping a player from saying another word? No hand gestures? Nonsense. This is heads up play and he can say whatever he wants. This is just a bunch of men swooping in to protect a woman. Let her fight her own battles.
Dealer won’t tell you what’s in the pot unless it’s a pot limit game. WSOP has been pretty strict on table talk that can influence action for 10+ years now, so no, you also can’t “say whatever you want” because you’re heads up.
Maybe know what you’re talking about before leaving arrogant comments?
You clearly don't play poker outside of your basement
yeah people just like to hate on kassouf. He's a boss and entertaining
@@Kanders190 it's literally in their rule book that it is allowed to talk about the situation in a heads up. Also yes you can ask for pot size as a player can literally bet pot, if I say I bet pot verbally it would be literally counted to bet the pot. It isn't just pot limit. You can ask the dealer how much the pot is and you can ask for a chip count of your opponent. You have zero clue what you're talking about.
Couldn't have said it better!!!
whether some words are "influencing the action" are not is 100% subjective
They’re always blabbing when they’re bluffing!
💯
yup
If it’s heads up, and he’s in the hand, why wouldn’t he be allowed to talk? That’s how Jamie Gold won the main event. Have the rules changed?
Here is the WSOP Rule on table talk. See Special Exception 2:
116. Table Talk / Disclosure: Participants are obligated to always protect the other Participants in the Tournament.
Therefore, whether in a hand or not, Participants may not:
a. Disclose contents of live or folded hands.
b. Advise or criticize play at any time.
c. Read a hand that hasn't been tabled.
d. Discuss strategy with an outside source while involved in a hand.
e. The one-Participant-to-a-hand rule mentioned in Rule 113 will be enforced.
Special Exceptions:
1. A Participant is allowed to mention the strength or content of his/her hand if no other Participant in the hand will
have a decision to make.
2. In heads-up Events or when down to the last two Participants in a Tournament, Participants may speak freely
regarding the contents of their hands.
3. The Floor Person reserves the right use his/her judgment to determine if one Participant intentionally helped
another Participant. Participants who violate this rule are subject to penalty in accordance with Rules 40, 113,
and 114.
This wouldn't fall under rule 2. This is not a HU tournament and it is not down to the last 2 participants, there are many people remaining. Unless they mean the remaining players in a particular hand, but I took it as meaning the tournament is down to two players.
@@smackinmatt You are correct. That rule does not apply in this situation.
@@smackinmatt this is heads-up events... That's why it is literally made specific of a heads-up situation AND LAST TWO PARTICIPANTS. Meaning they made it clear that they mean heads up is when there's two players left in a hand and the situation of two players left in the tournament.
@@Kanders190 it literally does. This is a heads up situation where two players left in a hand is literally called HEADS UP. They made it clear that is what the rule is talking about by distinguishing of the event there are two players left in a tournament.
@@blowc1612 It’s not a HU event, and they aren’t the last two participants left in the tournament. The hand, yes, the entire tournament, no. Therefore, neither stipulation in #2 of that rule apply.
Considering you were in another thread on this same video saying the dealer would have to count the pot if either player asked, I’m not sure where you get off acting so adamant about rules you clearly aren’t familiar with.
That was a good fold, QQ is only 1 pair, the possibility’s were endless
The dealer is so out of line.
If it's heads up say whatever you want. Only time the influence counts is if more than 2 people are in the hand.
I remember, in 1986, I was playing 2-7 Razz at the Stardust Casino poker room. A player was sniveling about a bad beat and making disparaging remarks about the winner of the pot. The guy was peaceable and took it in stride. This made the loser furious he couldn't make the other guy lose his composure. They were across the table from each other. The antagonist then took the olive out of his drink 🍸 and flung it at the winner. It bonked off his nose. I'm telling the truth, the guy dove across the table and landed on dude before the olive hit the ground. Security was already at the side of the poker room and although they were on the job the winner couldn't be torn off the jerk. He had legs around the fool's body (now crying like a b!@#$). Lock on, he took a bite out of dude's face, gouged his eyes and "BONKED" his nose. Eventually, cops came to assist as security was finally able to tear him off the DF. I had the 3 seat, winner 5 seat, jerk 9 seat. The game was interrupted 10-15 minutes. Everybody gave a statement, not one supported the olive thrower, they still had to arrest the winner, due to the damage, but he was a hero a week later when he returned. Not 86d, but the olive guy was, he had a reputation for starting crap.
Too bad there's no "Wring his neck" button for online games
U could have stopped after saying we were playing live razz, we get it… it’s a table full of losers.
Wow.
"9 high like a boss"
Bro spitting FACTS!!!!!
If she’s this flustered Now about talking, imagine if Hellmuth was at the table. 🤣🤣🤣
That's the best part about playing poker in person.Because you get to read your opponent and try to guess when they're nervous or when they're confident and you bluff them out when you don't have it.They are trying to take away some of the best strategies in poker
They don’t like this but it’s ok for someone to sit there with sunglasses and a scarf covering their face 😂
I have a feeling the director staff is favoriting the women because he is simping or just because table complained ive seen that alot sometimes the rules depends of the moods
Other players complained a lot. They said he was using his 'white privilege' whatever that means. They also said he was being abusive. He was just getting inside their heads.
@@billgarrity6720 My name is "Kassouf, I am from a Muslim family. Salam alakum brother"
_Whoa get a load of the whiteboy over here. Calm down, Aiden_
If you don't like table talk, pop headphones in. Solved.
Yesss its so funny people have such little mental control and stability and then they play a game thats essential to have those two things lol
Headphones are rude.
As long as it isn’t personally offensive i think it’s okay.
I mean he wasn’t being rude or aggressive, I think they are being too strict here
" 9 high like a boss."
Famous episode.
Would fool lots of people who think that was an easy to scape trap.
If you can’t handle guys like him, poker isn’t the game for you.
Table talk is great when someone knows how to limit it. Will, however, would table talk excessively. To the point where people are blatantly ignoring his talk and he would continue to talk for minutes to get a reaction. Making the overall experience very unpleasant!
Floor was out of line. No talking? No gestures? WTF?!!
Whats the actual ruling for table talk? Is it house different?
F these rules. He broke none
The security looks like a fired cop 😂
Absolutely atrocious behavior...by the tournament. Speech play is and has always been a big part of the game. He's not screaming, cussing, making threats or being unhinged. He's squarely inside the rules of decorum. And skillfully so. That's what the others are upset about. That they aren't used to playing under such conditions. I get that. Most players don't have a knack for this. Kasouf does.
Kassouf's skill set regarding speech play is second to none.
What "friendly" means when they say it? What "friendly" has to do with professional poker? Did I miss something?
Rumer has it thats she never played poker again
Table talk isn't allowed because it slows down play. My suggestion is to give every player a short clock for every hand (1.5-2 minutes max). Speech play is very important and should never die.
Those tournament officials were the only ones not being friendly
One time I went all in and the table ask that guy what he had he told them and he said he's thinking of folding the table said they would call person after person I said I am done playing
If I was just playing him I would have won but table input crushed me
As long as you’re in the hand talk as much shit as you want
u obvs haven't seen the finals when he talks for like 10min with KK pre-flop for literally no gd reason lmao. He talked *SOO* much in spots where it literally doesn't matter... don't say "as much as you want"
This is street poker. Frankly I love it considering he's the only guy that really did this kind of thing.
This narrator sounds like he's emulating human speech. THIS IS HOW NORMAL HUMANS TALK. WATCH THIS.
You’ve hit the nail on the head, it’s AI so is literally is emulating human speech
When was this
They should not have done that to him! Like he said there was a whole camera crew watching them. They were wrong.
Since when is table talk against the rules.. especially when you’re in the hand trying to bluff. Smh 🤦♂️
Poker is a game where you do opposite of what your opponent is trying to get you to do
Ok so opposite opposite got it
@@chase5224exactly. And when u think they got a read, u do the opposite opposite of the opposite
@@chase5224 Unless they're using reverse psychology. Which is always.
"I literally paid your wage to be able to say and do this at this very moment."
yeah he's annoying but it's part of the game and he has every right to speak. Absolutely terrible floor decision
No gestures LMFAO!
Now thats how you play poker baby👏
What casino is this so I want to go there?
Fuck the over controling floor button.
Shows the bluff "Turned a double gutter and missed....nevermind" 😂 that's wild
I want him in prison immediately
In what world can you not announce public information? That's absolutely ridiculous
This guy is a legend!
I do not understand so what is the new rule said?
His future divorce from his husband will bend him over in the count of law 😂😂😂
You know, he's actually a lawyer?
If they are heads up, you can say whatever you want. If there are 3 or more people in the hand, you are not allowed to say anything related to the hand at all and should get a penalty.
This why i love Martin Kabrhel !
🗣🙉👍
I never heard of rules like the ones they’re trying to enforce … but he won a great hand with 9-high
The dealer is weak, if "he cannot say", the floor man needs to be called.
Crappy dealer just personally biased against the "annoying guy"
Dealer Aaron Lashlee handled this correctly.
“I want you to call” I’d be calling so quick bro
To everyone wondering why dealer/floor told him to stfu is because he said ‘there is x in the pot’. Which can be considered as type of angling as he can imply that pot is bigger or smaller than it actually is, thus immorally influencing her action. Pot is in the middle of the table and every player can see and calculate for themselves. And unfortunately for the poker community he is a master in these borderline angles.
He's IN THE HAND! Guys like Hellmuth and Negreanu do this all the time. It's the best part of watching. They take this away and ratings will straight up crash.
I always thought table talk was discouraged.. it would be courteous and polite just play the cards and not taunt another player
That’s why you don’t over think and play with your gut. Your gonna win and lose in poker. Overthinking is a killer of good players
Like i said to Will at DTD a few weeks ago, he has a lot to answer for. Thank you headphones of the world.
What is their rules there?
If it's heads up you should be allowed to say whatever you like as long as it's not abusive
"Heads up" means FINAL 2 people in a tournament...not final 2 people in a hand. ...other people in the tournament can still be affected eventhough they are not in this hand. WSOP rules are clear that he is in violation here.
Table talk is too restricted. He was annoying so they came down harder on him.
They should only shut it down if it becomes abusive.
This is the absolute best table talk I have ever seen
If you don’t like it, you call the clock !
They did a terrible job mediating this one. The guy wasn't being outlandish.
I'm confused, what rules was he breaking? All the poker I've watched, players are allowed to talk to eachother.. isn't that part of poker?
F that rule, if you’re in the hand 1v1 talking should be allowed. Trust me, talking gives away a lot of clues. I’ve made a lot of right calls because guys that I’ve gone up against spoke too much lol
Are we looking over the fact that this guy just won a losing hand??? Like a boss
Talking and mind games is definitely a huge part of no limit hold em.
I've encountered someone like that before, I ask him to stop talking to me but he wouldn't so I had called him every time he was talking like that and fold it when he didn't talk as much..... and rumored have that someone else had beaten him up pretty badly putting him in hospital, guess to say he never show up again lol
He was clearly talking about his hand in action. She was provoked and asked "your going to show me a worse hand" and he said "I'm not" that is table talk. She never talked about her hand.
Can anyone explain why a player can't say how much is in the pot?
If table talk (not abuse) is eliminated, we might as well all play online.
It's tourney play and we don't know how the hand unfolded the starting position of the players, the blind levels, or how many players remain. Anyone dogging the fold is clueless. A4♣️ AND A4♥️ is still a valid threat depending on the circumstances.
I encourage table talk amongst the players in the hand but I can’t stand table talk with people out of the hand.
In fact I lost one of the worst hand s ever because of outside table talk
I had flush draw on the turn with a jam and everyone was talking 💩 about the jammer to me and I was tanking. I was really 70/30 calling but was TANKING. After about 1-2 solid minutes of nonsense I couldn’t think straight and folded. Asked for a run out (curiosity kills the cat). Flush hit and I was so livid. Never went to their house game after that, felt manipulated
Talk aside, what did she put him on? Can’t ask for a much better board with high pair in the hole.
“You’re going to show me a worse hand” sooo then why didn’t you call?
How can you fold queens in that situation?!
He is in the hand?
Why is poker suddenly all over my feed. I love it