Types of Spoon Fishing Lures and How They Work Underwater - spoon fishing tips and history
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2023
- We discuss all of the different kinds of spoon fishing lures, how they work underwater, general spoon fishing tips, and the history of spoon lures and the Buel spoon. Basics of spoon fishing 101.
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I love how your videos no BS straight to the point and I'm learning a lot in a small amount of time thank you
Wonderful. I don't like videos full of pointless junk so I don't put that stuff in my videos either. Thanks for the comment.
@@FishingwithNatthis is the way EVERY YT video should be. I actually learned something this time out of the four other spoon videos that I’ve watched so far today. Thank you, subbed!
@@Splitsplatofficial Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for the feedback.
This video fired me up to try and use spoons more. I don't use them enough. Casting distance is a huge benefit due to the weight that you just can't get with cranks.
Definitely. Make sure you have a lot of line on your reel when you toss one of the heavy ones!
Same man. There was this drainage overflow dug out that became a perfectly rectangular pond near my house several years back, now practically unfishable. Not having wheels it was a gift from God. Was try to cover a good bit of water and get a feel for the place & thought the same thing. Used this small, all black/dark gray thin cylindrical spoon w/ a small hair skirt, figured I'd find some Bluegill or bass. Instead it was the only time I caught a catfish in there over several years. I'd chummed, set up multiple rods to no avail lol. Found the bass instead though! Cheers.
@@garrett3117 Cool. I'm always surprised by how willing a catfish is to chase down a spoon or a crankbait.
Pike demolish them
Spoons will work on almost all kinds of fish it depends on size of the spoon and how well you can retrieve it to make it look realistic enough to piss the fish off with the flashing
This video is definitely being added to my fishing playlist. Thank you very much 🙏
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks man, I'm still new to fishing and it looks like I've been using all of my spoons wrong. Straight to the point, no bullshit, and answered all of my questions in less than 5 minutes. Now I can't wait to get back on the water and use my spoons properly. Happy fishing and tight lines everyone! 👍
Wonderful - I appreciate the feedback. Glad to hear that this video answered all of your questions in a concise manner. That's the goal!
I showed this video to my wife, and she gave me some broken spoon.
Big thanks to you 🎣
Haha awesome. Get some hooks on those babies and get out there!
the lures americans call inline spinners where orginally called bar spoons in europw because they were spoons fixed to a wire bar, i have to give an honourable mention to the blue fox inkoo hammerd silver 12g, its landed me a sprinkle of fish, great video 👍
Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed the video!
i love spoons and i love catching fish on them! yes, so simple! And I am not practiced or skilled on finesse worm fishing!
Spoons are a great option and they don't require any fancy retrieve. Just cast and reel...they do most of the work for you.
ANOTHER great video!!! Thanks man!
Thanks - I appreciate the comment.
Great video. We use Len Thompson spoons a lot in Saskatchewan.
Cool - thanks for the comment.
Good video, I believe I have just about every spoon you have shown after about 50 years of fishing. In fact I have a collection on antique lures and one is a clam shell made into a spoon like you referred to at the beginning of the video. Pretty old and most the paint is gone.
Cool. I would love to see Buel's original spoon in person someday. Do you still use the antique spoons?
@@FishingwithNat no I have all the old lures displayed on the wall on a very old fly rod owned by my long deceased grandmother hanging in my living room. I have only one spoon it’s a clam shell with a thin metal strip with the shell riveted to it and the treble hook attached to the metal strip. Looks old but no idea who’s the manufacturer
@@kross1261 Sounds cool. My own classic lure collection is hanging from my late grandfather's old baitcasting rod in my office. :)
Spoons have been HOT for decades.
I remember when I was staying at BAY SHORE RESORT on LEECH Lake in Northern Minnesota in the 1980's, The fishermen who were bringing in the "Dog-sized" Northern Pike & Muskellunges, were all using spoons.
The HOT one that week, was a red & white striped (like a peppermint candy) DAREDEVIL 3" spoon.
Kind of fun. We use a lot of very light spoons for trout fishing in Japan. Also single hooks are common due to regulations in many waters
Thanks for sharing. Yes, single hook regulations are in some parts of the U.S. and Canada too.
*How do you eat the fish right after catching it? Do you cut it up and eat it raw like sushi or cook it?*
Great video, did not know all that history!
Thanks - glad you enjoyed it, Patrick!
Thanks man I just caught the most beautiful long ear sunfish with blue spots and I appreciate your advice
Sounds super cool.
Great vid! Changed my spoon game
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!
Those of us who are old enough remember putting "trailers" consisting of pork rind strips on single-hook weedless spoons. Since pork rind strips are no longer available, it seems that everyone recommends using curly-tailed grubs to dress up such spoons, but they just aren't very good compared to the old pork rinds. Now, there's a USA company called "Fat Cow" that makes fake pork rind strips. Try their jigging strips on a weedless spoon and you'll ditch the curly-tailed grubs forever.
You bet - I remember the old Uncle Josh pork rinds!
Were they called Uncle Josh's?
A pork strip with a small rubber skirt on a silver minnow was a killer for bass
@@joshuahowe9417 Yup
@@kenneth9874 Good stuff!
I didn't realize the Acme Phoebe is meant to be fished vertically! I do like the way it flutters on the fall. Recently, I was casting and retrieving one from the bank and pulled in a dozen chain pickerel. I think they would have hit a plain jig head that day. 🙂
It works great as a vertical flutter spoon! I don't doubt it would be super effective as a casting spoon for pickerel. Thanks for sharing!
The largest bass I ever caught here in Vermont was with a Johnson Silver Minnow paired with a twin tail trailer. Over 5 pounds, which is a pretty good size largemouth here.
Nice. That's a beautiful northern bass.
Pretty good size anywhere! Good on ya!
I've been ignoring spoons for a while as I've forbidden myself from buying more lures (for now), but this morning I snagged a 2/3oz little cleo in silver/chartreuse (same pattern as yours on the bottom, 5th from left at 4:16!) and I'm stoked to go throw it around the dam sometime soon! Just got it all set up with a new hook and a direct barrel swivel 🔥💜 Thanks for the tips, straightforward approach, and the awesome underwater shots to help understand how the bait works!
Little Cleos are great. Good luck and thanks for the comment.
@@FishingwithNat My size 6 swivel broke maybe 2 minutes after I saw your reply this morning; "my" little cleo now lives below the power dam. 😂😭 BUT I snagged a new buckshot rattling spoon maybe 15 minutes later!
@@bjcox6695 Good deal! Buckshot spoons are great too.
Yeah when I was a kid we made some spoon lures out of pawa (abalone) shell ,they worked pretty well And I just made a couple the other day for my little cousin. But I'm going to try making a few in different stiles out of bone and paws shell
Cool - that sounds fun
Here in northern europe (maybe elsewhere too? Dont know) we also have spoons made specifically for seatrout, there are many different kind but the basic concept is that the other side has some sort of boyant material on it to slow down sinking rate, to be able to make stops in very shallow and rocky waters. They are also often designed to withstand pretty fast speeds.
That's neat. So the spoons will sort of suspend in the water when you stop retrieving? How deep do they run during a retrieve?
Not suspending, just somewhat slower sinking than fully metallic spoon. They usually run just below the surface. Oh and in this case shallow water is 0.2 to 1 meter of water (.65 to around 3ft). So in that shallow water full metal spoons will usually sink too fast and get snagged in rocks when making stops. Stops are often when seatrouts will strike so it is important to be able to do those effectively. During cold water period seatrout are often in such shallow areas.
Ofcourse there are many full metal seatrout spoons aswell but I'm not personally that much of a fan of those.
Oh and to explain little further, I would call these with buyoant material more like traditional type of seatrout spoons, these days there are also many seatrout spoons made out of plastic and core weight as those are probably easier to mass produce but work pretty much the same way.
@@Rvndrkk Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Cool video, I throw Eppinger single hook spoons.
Do you always stick with the single-hook ones in all conditions?
nice vid, since i live in Norway i havent seen most of these spoons. Dardevle looks real nice might have to get a couple
Thanks - what kinds of spoons are popular in Norway?
@@FishingwithNat møresilda is a classic,Abu toby and Abu koster. These are mainly saltwater spoons but come in smaller that work for fresh
@@yojimbo9 Cool
Great video! BUT-check your "Harter's" Metal Plug again-it's HERTER'S. Ya'll may be too young, but the Herter's name is well known to most fishermen and hunters over age 65 or so. The Herter's mail order catalog company, based in Waseca, MN was like the "Bass Pro Shops" of the 1930s to 70s. They sold everything from camping gear, fly tying materials, fishing tackle, duck decoys, hunting equipment, guns, ammo reloading equipment and supplies to boats and even snowmobiles and mini bikes, all mail order, although they did have a handful of brick-and-mortar stores, mostly around the Great Lakes. Generations of outdoorsmen ordered their gear trom Herter's, but a number of factors drove them out of business in the early 1980s. But before there was Cabela's-before there was Bass Pro Shops-It was Herter's catalogs that we used to drool over!
Good catch - thanks for the correction.
You're welcome! Keep up with the great videos. I've been fishing a long time and even I learn things from them.
@@johngehl3853 Great to hear - I appreciate the feedback!
Nice video.. Very useful.. ❤️
Thank you
Harter' metal spoon appears to be the original Buck Perry Spoon Plug developed in Hickory, NC
Pretty close. The Buck Perry Spoon Plug looks to have a single line tie, and the Harters had three to change the diving depth.
I have several authentic Spoonplugs with 3 line ties also.
@@stevencarrigan8946 Interesting. They both look very similar. I'm guessing one is based off of the other. Not sure which one came first though.
I grew up and still live within 25-30 mi of where Buck Perry lived and developed the Spoon Plug . I'm guessing he did development in the '40s/'50s.
@@stevencarrigan8946 Cool. The Harters plug may have been a knockoff then.
I always keep a couple spoons in my tackle, namely the classic kastmaster blue/silver and the red and white daredevil.
Can't go wrong with those classics!
What do you normally catch on the blue and silver one? I have one as well
@@RealBoiJare You can catchjust about anything. I've caught Bass, Crappie, Perch, even Catfish. It's just a good versatile lure.
@@jacktupp4358 to be honest I haven’t used mine a ton so I’ll have to try it out some more
@@RealBoiJare Mostly king salmon and pike
subscribed simply because of the content and video added into show people what the spoons do! will do more research in the many years to come! Probably won't hit the ocean till xmas when I go to NZ for holidays and freeze while fishing should be enjoyable XD Oh I have already commented! Don't be surprised if you see my name through yours and other channels posts often, lots can be learnt by those willing to watch videos, read comments, test the comments and video content and learn from others :)
Thank you and welcome!
@@FishingwithNatThis is probably the first video I watched in full on your channel, cheers for the link to the kayak video, very cool just watched it :) still have loads of videos to watch about fishing, the playlists galore, will probably be next season that me and the wife go fishing here in Australia, plan on heading to NZ for Christmas so maybe get some fishing done over the ditch :)
@@switchofftogettagrip1400 Thanks - good luck!
@@FishingwithNat decided to take a break from watching videos to Watch how to make minnow lures.
Who doesn't like to make things?
I try to learn something new each day, if I can hand down this kind of knowledge which someone has kindly put together then I will, heck if the fish aren't biting I maybe able to create part of the minnow lures where ever I am 😁 always have something to do.
Will look at making spoons next ✅
@@switchofftogettagrip1400 Sounds like a good way to spend a weekend!
Video said spoons are not weedless. Ones with wider wobble shed weeds better. To make them more weedless you can clip off one of the trebles to make it two hooks, and rig it so they are both pointed up. Single hooks tend to flatten when the fish bites and you’ll miss hook ups.
Some years back I found a double hook that has coil spring weed guards. If you point them up the spoon is almost 100% weed free. You can cast into reeds and weeds and bring it through no problem
In my opinion, anything with treble hooks is prone to catching vegetation. As you said, double hooks or single hooks are far more weedless than trebles, and doubles will hook more fish than singles. It also depends on the type of vegetation you're casting into. Some plant species are more likely to be caught on hooks than others.
Fish have a LATERAL LINE that runs along the length of their bodies. It acts as their "underwater ear." This is probably why CHATTERBAITS are so effective.
Yes, the lateral line system allows them to sense vibrations, similar to the way our ears work. They can sense small vibrations from a simple bug hitting the water or a baitfish moving nearby. Chatterbaits are definitely a lot "louder" and could be detected from further away.
ah yah. Recently discovered a fantastic new artificial plastic I use in near shore saltwater angling. The inventor figured out how to put a miniature rattle into the paddletail portion so that it jangles with the natural action while reeling. So cool! Have caught fish on it! brand is knockin tails lures. (not sponsored😅) Just like em!
also yah I always wondered about the lateral line and its biology. I must read more on fish anatomies
It irks me to no end that Rapala launches so many of their products in US first and a few years later here in Finland. I would still like to mention their Kallan spoon, which just slays trout. It’s sort of a combination of spoon and crank.
I hadn't heard of the Kallan spoon yet. It looks really cool.
Thanks alot...I tried it, spoon catch big fish...
Great!
Ive had big fish hit spoons i feel like its best to start out with small short casts then start working your way out further each time then start again you could seriously miss fish right in front of you
That's true. It's interesting how people in boats will cast as close to shore as possible, but people on shore will cast as far out as possible too!
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@FishingwithNat Very much learned from it. Didn’t know the Pheobe was more of a jigging spoon. No wonder I never got it to swim right.
@@Gypsyboy932 I mostly it for jigging, but it works pretty well as a casting lure too. I tend to prefer Kastmasters, Cleos, Krocodiles, and Syclops for casting though. The Phoebe shines in its fluttering action while vertical jigging.
I have 2 kastmaster spoons that I found at a lake the hook on one of them was badly rusted instead of replacing it with another treble hook i placed a single hook on it so that it wont snag anything
Yeah that's a great technique to make a spoon more weedless
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Thanks - good luck fishing!
Replacement arrived!By the way, I did forget to mention that the original lure did have a decent strike however as most anglers will attest you can get a hit ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 and fish will hang on and release lure. I used the replacement lure yesterday and ran thru a Shimano Waxwing, Kastmaster, Bobber (set to sink). I found the does run deep (I casting on the flats 3.5'). Make sure you adjust your rate of retrieve and rod tip angle (up) to prevent getting snagged on bottom. Used it a couple of times and action was very lifelike (looked like local bait fish for trevally), craftsmanship very good....however eyeball fell out. I asked for replacement and it is on it's way! It was very easy to change out treble to single inline hook.
Thanks for watching
good collection fishing lures 🌜🪁
Thanks
Thank you for your job - very interesting video for me !!!!! Hello from Ukraine , city Vinnitsa !!!! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌👍 I like fishing pike and walley
Great - thanks for watching and good luck fishing!
My favorite is Kastmaster in various weights
That's a great one. Casts a mile and a half too.
Rooster tail never fail
Rooster tails are great
Never have caught anything on a spoon..i might pick it back up and try it again
They are great for pike and salmon around here. That's what I've had the most luck with. Jigging spoons are good for walleye and perch through the ice.
Which spoon as the most fluttering action when sinking? I loved my little Cleos until I lost a bunch in snags and want to try something new with the same or better sink action.
I think most spoons with the typical spoon shape like Little Cleos, Dardevles, KO Wobblers, etc. have a similar action when sinking. Mepps Syclops spoons have a nice action while sinking. I've never really looked at my Krocodiles when they sink but I think they pretty much just plummet like a rock. Maybe someone else will comment here with suggestions.
@@FishingwithNatThanks, I’ll take a look at those. First time fishing with Little Cleos this season and I like how I could cast it into the water then watch it shine as it fluttered down.
@@NeonKue Yep. That's just how the original spoon came to be. Cleos are beautiful spoons.
I don't have any of your favorites, not one! Because the line twist aggravates me I really only use 2 spoons these days, the Kastmaster for shore casting where I need distance, and the Bomber Slab when I want a small heavy lure for deep jigging. Otherwise I avoid baits that twist line..
Line twist is a big problem with spoons. The Kastmaster was shown in the video a couple of times and is also high up on my list. It's a nice heavy spoon for bank fishing and also works great as a jigging spoon through the ice.
I also have a couple of really small Kastmasters that I like to fish small streams with. They work great for trout, perch, and even big creek chubs.
@@FishingwithNat I always say if I had to go fishing with only one lure, it would probably be a Kastmaster, because it can catch fish from the surface down to 100' plus. Jigging, casting, even trolling, it can do it all.
So should I use a swivel or no?
If you put a trailer (worm, plastic, rind, etc) half the length of the lure body on the center hook and retrieve a spoon at the proper speed , it will reduce or eliminate the spoon’s tendency to turn over. Scented trailers work better.
Do you need to add wight like split shot to the line when using spinners or spoons?
No. They are pretty heavy on their own. You can add weight if you want them to run deeper or sink faster, but it isn't necessary.
Good spon
Thanks for watching
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You're welcome. I hope you enjoyed the video.
Today I threw everything in the muddy after storm water. Only spoon produced results for me and my friend. Other friend threw paddle tails no luck. Spoons work
The crazy flash from a spoon can be killer in dirty water!
@@FishingwithNat yup
Williams Wabbler babyyyyy!
That's a new one for me. What do you target with the Wabbler?
@@FishingwithNat Wabler* I typoed my original comment.
Its a very old school simple spoon that’s been around for yeaaarrrs in Canada. Works great for pretty much anything honestly. The silver ones drive Ontario pike wild. But we’ve caught everything from smallmouth to spotted gar(endangered in Ontario) on it with a frog pattern!
@@Smiththebat Awesome. I've used the KO Wobbler spoon but had not heard of the Williams Wabler.
Xcitor Lure spoon by Falls Baits Wisconsin
I'm not finding that lure when searching online. Where do you find it?
I'll have to try the weedless with a plastic trailer! 👍
It's a cool option around vegetation. It provides the flash of a spinnerbait but is more streamlined.
Could you please show me a wobbling spoon brand names? thanks
Daredevil and my favorite, the Swedish Pimple.
There are tons of different ones. Dardevle, Little Cleo, Krocodile, Kastmaster, Swedish Pimple, Buckshot spoons, Mepps Timber Doodle, and many more.
Michigan based? Might as well if i live here fish one here
I'm in Wisconsin but the fisheries in Michigan are basically the same.
I just realized you were referring to Michigan-based Eppinger Lures! Yes, they are great lures and well-suited to Michigan fisheries!
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Thanks for watching.
Isnt it interesting, of all the Spoons ever Created, The Little Cleo still Dominates the " GENERAL" ,Spoon usage World, and the KASTMASTER, Which isn't really a spoon lure. I don't use them enough either, cause we all have to many O.C.D. Lures, Lmao.
Both of those are excellent and I love how far they can cast. Yes, I certainly have too many lures!
lightened spoon missing.
You mean a spoon with an actual light on it? Or a glow spoon?
This video forced me to trash some lures and start over, no regrets but buyer be aware☝ ,,Fishing (watching👀) with Nat" can also drive you nuts 🤣🙈
No need to trash any of your spoons! They all have their place!
@@FishingwithNat only buy what you may adopt to a certain fishing areas or this type of lures verified by others👍, cheap or useless lures will only produce more frustrating moments @ site , Nat ☝ he is right to turn your attention to a more logical choices ...anyways some folks will not bother to admit ' go with the flow or keep wastkng your time?
@@gregory3108 It's rare that only one single lure will catch a fish at a given spot, but it is pretty common for new anglers to throw baits that are too large or otherwise inappropriate for the fish in that spot. Tossing the 3.5oz spoon I mentioned into a small city pond probably isn't going to result in any catches. :)
@@FishingwithNat=> like you said, do you homework buy only reliable fishing 🎣 gear , outsmart given fish species can be challenging, again such platform (Fishing with Nat ) serves its purpose, educational part first☝ trying a variety of lures next👈 restructured fishing plan produces -final decision what you really need to keep and where to go? Nat should also explain to us a major advantage or disadvantage of using a traditional spinning reel versus bait casting reel ? else what not to do to possibly to ruin our fishing trip🥺
@@gregory3108 I do plan on making a video comparing types of reels and when to use them. Stay tuned.
I think kastmasters should not be categorized as a spoon. It's should be called a blade lure.
It's a solid chunk of shiny metal that works well as a casting lure or a jigging lure. That seems to fit well with other spoons.
@@FishingwithNat A cripple herring also cast well and jig well, but it's not a spoon. Same with Hopkins Shorty lure. There are many solid chunk of shiny metal that can jig and cast but it's not a spoon. You wouldn't consider diamond jig a spoon right? A true definition of a spoon is having short or long tear drop shape with a concave to scoop up water. If it can't scoop water, it's really not a spoon.
@@walden6272 That's fair. I see your point.
Here is an underwater view of the Fin-Wing® spoon trolled with a Night Crawler snell and catching Walleye in Wisconsin. You can add this to your information regard spoons, take a look at PZ Tackle and Fishing Adventures on You Tube. More info the better when it comes to fishing!
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Neat
Haha, huge dissapointment, no Abu Garcia Toby
Can't show them all!
@@FishingwithNat
Its ok, you already have a similar version like Toby. But you should have heard about Savage Gear ISP Seeker, its spoon that fluters super fast and has a fat butt to fly a mile. Its different than showed spoons, brits are killing with it, its a go-to spoon, idk if anyone uses any other.
@@i1bike I've been impressed with my Savage Gear 4Play and Fruck. Good stuff. I'll have to check out the ISP Seeker too.
If I was stuck on an island with a rod & reel and one choice of a lure? It'd be an older Silver Minnow Spoon in 3/4 oz! The older models still made in Chicago on Wells Street, were made with two different metals so they would wobble but not turn over! It can worked in many different ways but the retrieve stop flutter then start retrieve again is a killer! Especially in or around grass or coontail it just gives off a minnow baitfish being struck and dying Especially with a snap or two during the retrieve! Second choice a 3/4 oz red & white Daredevil the older models better plating in 60's! The Spoon is an overlooked fishing lure that most fisherman look at like a chicken looking at a card trick! They no clue what's so ever! And they are badass fishing in saltwater! Sea Trout, Redfish and flounder will spank them! Biggest Trout I have ever caught, was fishing at San Luis Pass fishing a Texas made Triple Chance spoon on an flat slack tide in a 20' cut during mid day in July! Using a broom handle of a pole, 6' 6" crossfire García baitcasting rod García 5501 reel with 12lbs green Big Game and a 6' of 30lbs clear Big Game shock leader with a Sampo swivel, just waded over to the cut cast out 3/4 oz Triple Chance let sink to the bottom about a 20 count, reeled up the slack and just snap the spoon of the bottom and on a tight line just rode to the bottom, rinse & repeat! But if the line went slack before I felt hit to bottom or a tick? I set the hook and in a 20-30 minute window I caught three Trout over 6lbs and on a plus 7lbs +. Swam back across the cut with the Trout on a stringer and the waders on the other side asked what I'd caught? Sea Trout! one guy said he'd never seen Trout that size before! Now! I would've never have killed such beautiful big female Sea Trout! CPR! Because killing Big Breeders don't make your dick any bigger! Besides the smaller males are better eating anyway! Now I fish alot of ultralight spinning and baitcasting rods and reels, but the Johnson Silver Minnow Spoon in 1/8 or 1/4 oz still kicks some bass asses! An occasional Bayou Muskie (Alligator Gar) on a 4' 6" rod 10lbs test! Will make your Johnson stand up and bark like Lassie!😅 CMTFU! All CPR!
😆 Very nice - thanks for the comment!