Still Worth It? Pico Neo 3 Link Review
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- This video covers the Pico Neo 3 Link, and some of the benefits and draw backs. It considers whether it is still worth considering now that the Pico 4 has been anounced/released, and who knows which will be best for PCVR?
This is my first UA-cam video, please forgive the sound levels, and general editing/script/length. I have learned alot in this process and will ensure I improve for my next video (if there is one). Thanks
Main components of my PC for comparison (used for PCVR):
Intel 10600k processor
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio Graphics Card.
#pico #picovr #pn3l #vr #vrgaming #virtualreality - Ігри
Ive seen a couple of your videos today, they are informative and well made :) Good job!
Thank you! I have just started giving it a go, glad you liked them, and hopefully they'll only get better 😃
@@DayDreamerVR Im sure they will :)
I can't wait to get my hands on a pico 4 but being in Australia I'm unsure how long I'll have to wait
Probably a few month in the same time as the us 😢
Think you've sold me on this headset. I will be 95% of the time using it for SIM racing so this definitely sounds like the headset for me. Running it alongside an RTX3090 I hope I can tweak it to get some good frame rates.
You are similar to me, I use mine 95% of the time for sim racing, and get excellent results with a 3080,you won't be disappointed at all with what it could do with a 3090! Enjoy👍
This headset wins the market for streaming with pc pricewise
Guys. The Pico Neo 3 Link is £171 on Amazon UK. This is a steal at this price considering that on DP mode it destroys the Quest 3.
Thanks for detailed reviews. It helps a lot. I have a Lenovo legion5 laptop with only usb-c (gpu) port. I tried using different brands of usbc to DP adaptor but no luck. The steam VR cannot be seen on HMD. Via wifi no issue. Do u happen to know if adaptor will work
If the USB port supports Display Port 1.4 Alt mode then it should work. If you aren't already on it, it could be worth going on to the PICO Discord channel and we can try and help more on there 👍 discord.gg/picoxr-community-978568111693385738
I've tried my son's Pico 4 with Project cars, as it is the only VR supported sim racer I own, and I really enjoyed it. I was using the link cable. Now I'm wondering if it might be worth me buying the Neo 3 Link instead, as I'll be 70% Steam VR based? I dont have a high spec PC though, it really needs updating, so am using a GTX 1060Ti. With my hardware, would I even notice a difference using the display port over a USB 3 link cable? Thanks for your unbiased reviews anyway, keep up the good work :)
Thank you for your comment, that means a lot. I would recommend getting the Virtual Desktop app for the PICO 4 first and trying that before deciding on the headset. The PICO link software for the PICO 4 is known to be poor quality. Virtual Desktop gives you more options for graphical quality and other settings,and would be a better experience for the PICO 4. If you then decided to go for the Neo 3 Link, you should see a slight improvement with smoothness and image quality with the Neo 3 Link, but I recently decided for me the PICO 4 offers other things the Neo 3 Link doesn't (such as its lightness, and smaller design). Whatever you do, hope you enjoy it 😄
@@DayDreamerVR We do have it already, and it performs much better than the Pico streaming assistant. Thanks for the recommendation though
As a quest 2 owner, I wonder if there is such a big difference in visual quality, between the pico 3 link and the pico 4 in pcvr to justify purchasing a different headset. Or I'll just wait a little longer and maybe another "pcvr (displayport)-standalone" headset will pop-up on the market.
From what I've heard so far, the pico link just beats the pico 4 visually when using the display port, but both are the pico 4 and pico neo 3 link have significantly better visuals when compared to the quest 2. I'm hoping another link device comes out at some point, but at this stage I think it's unlikely
I actually ordered this over the Pico 4 simply because of the DP connection.
Having a native image without compression is a bliss.
I got the Pico 4, in the hope that the image wouldn't be too far behind the Pico Neo 3 Link with display port cable and I could live with it. When I tried it, it is so far behind it has made me stick with the Pico Neo 3 Link, great headset for the price 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Incredible! I wish they would have offered a Pico 4 with DP and 3.5mm headphone jack. That literally would have been the perfect headset for me, and I would've easily paid 100-150$ more for that.
I always felt that a native image just feels so much more "real". I always try to compare it this way. Native DP image feels like you're actually in this world, as if the screen is just a window to the world you see. But wireless VR is more like watching a stream or a YT video of yourself playing it, if that makes sense?
So yea. Much a let down that they didn't take this opportunity to stratify both mainstream and PC VR enthusiasts. :/
@@DayDreamerVR Have you tried PCVR over WiFi with the Pico 4? Some say they get zero or very little compression artifacts over WiFi 6.
@@CaptainPanick Hi, yes I have, for most games you will see very little compression with the PICO 4, it will mainly only be visible for fast paced games and sim racing. I think wireless PCVR (not sim racing though) is where the PICO 4 makes the most sense and performs best 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Thanks! In the mean time I've watched some of your other videos which also answered my question (thanks for that, they are very informative!). I also enjoy SIM racing and especially Project Cars 2 in VR, but then I also play games like gzdoomvr which is very fast paced and will probably also have quite heavy compression artefacts. My trusty Rift S will do for now but it is not going to last forever so I'm a little worried which direction I'll be taking in the feature as I'd mainly be doing PCVR for the foreseeable time.
Let me know about the comparison with the Pico 4 for PC VR.
You seem like a credible source.
Thank you, I have actually been away for the weekend but have a free day tomorrow and I'm hoping to get a couple of videos done so keep an eye out for them, it might answer your query 😁
Unfortunately pico neo 3 link isint distributed in all regions that the pico 4 is, so it might not even be an option
I use the HP G2 as my daily driver, mainly for racing sims. The performance of my PC is not enough to run the HP natively. I5 13600k + RTX3080. So I have the choice to buy a 4090 for a lot of money or a headset with lower pixel count. Now I bought a used Pico3 for 300€ and hope to be happy with it.
I also own a Quest2 and a Pico4, both great headsets, but no use for racing sims without a native graphics port.
A 4090 would definitely be good to try with the G2 and Neo 3 Link!
@@DayDreamerVR Unfortunately too expensive for me at the moment. I hope the Neo3 Link will be a good pair with my 3080.
@@B0nfire1 I have the 3080, and it is a good match with the PN3L. In terms of visuals, hopefully you shouldn't be disappointed 👍🤞
@@DayDreamerVR I hope so too but will definitely be better than the Quest2 or the Pico4 with compression and more FPS than the G2.
That's all I want.
@@DayDreamerVR Hi,I wanted to give another update.
The Pico3 has not disappointed me, as long as I do not have a better graphics card is the best solution.
With the Pico3 I can now use the native resolution with high/ultra settings. (Pc2)
Steam Vr @150%.
My Reverb G2 then waits until I sometime upgrade the graphics card.
Aside from the standalone capability, how would you say this compares to the Reverb G2Version 2?
Neo 3 link is slightly heavier as it has the battery, the G2 is potentially slightly more comfortable due to that. Picture quality is very similar. Wireless PCVR is a huge plus for the Neo 3 Link.
Do you know, are the faceplates the same for the Pico Neo 3 and the Pico Neo 3 Link? I have a link and want to order things like a new face cushion, some silicone covers etc. But I'm having trouble finding anything for the link specifically. If they're the same, then that makes it a lot easier.
They are the same luckily, so facial interface and covers should work 👍
Thank you! As a simmer (also UK) I have the EXACT questions you had, but if I have a beastly PC and Rift S at the moment, should I go for G2 or Pico Neo 3 Link? In your opinion? MRTV video already answered that PICO 4 is still worse for sims with all the compression...
I would personally go for the Pico Neo 3 Link, it will be excellent for Pcvr, with the added benefit of being able to do wireless should you ever wish to play standalone games or some of the excellent PCVR titles (Half Life Alyx for example). Coming from the Rift S you will really see a huge improvement in the graphics 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks again, I do appreciate your response. So I pre-ordered PICO 4 from Amazon, if wireless PCVR will not meet my standards I will return it and will get PICO 3 Link. I read A LOT about abysmal sweetspot of G2 and it is a very important for FPS aiming especially.
@@viktorianas the PICO 4 should be the best choice for wireless VR in shooters etc, and will have a much clearer view due to the lenses and resolution. It's just the sim racing or flight sim that won't be quite as good as the Neo 3 Link, difficult decision, whatever you do, enjoy it, I'm sure you will 👍
I just got pico neo 3 link few days ago. it feels rather uncomfortable even comparing to my previous oculus cv-1. selling it asap and ordering pico 4.
@@andys6163 sorry to hear that, is it the weight/facial pad/something else? I find the rear strap pad doesn't quite sit flush to the back of my head, but apart from that it's okay. Do you do much pcvr like sim racing or Microsoft flight sim? If not then pico 4 might be better for you, hope you get it sorted okay👍
Which IPD setting do you use with the Neo 3 Link? With my own 68mm, i've been advised to stay away from PN3L, because the outer IPD settings don't work properly over DisplayPort. What's your experience?
I'm about 64mm,so use the middle setting. With 68mm you are very close to the top setting at 69mm. I haven't therefore had any issues. Although I have heard some people have had slight down sides with the outer limits of IPD, it generally seems that people would still prefer a Pico Neo 3 Link due to the other benefits of the cable, and the price. There is an update due imminently which may fix some of the concerns. Worth joining the Pico Discord for more info 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Yeah, i'm reading the Discord every 5min in expectation of news about the update. :D
Can you use 120hz by wired display port for pcvr gaming?
Unfortunately 120hz is not possible with it's display port cable. It is possible wirelessly with virtual desktop though 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks a lot!!
turns out pico 4 is great on pc if you have a stupidly good gpu, tbh pico 3 is probabaly the most realistic choice for most
Yup, Pico Neo3 Link is best for PC atm. Bought one new for 299 euro. Can't wait to start!
Awesome! Enjoy! 👍
my pico is only 72hz on dp is that normal?
Have you activated 90hz on the PICO link app on your PC? If you have, then try activating 120hz on your headset in standalone mode and then check again, hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Thank you .
No need to buy additional ac adapter to continuously charge it - just plug to usb 3 port while connected to DP and it charges.
Yes, the display port and USB will charge it, but depending on refresh rate, and other settings it can still drain the battery🔋