Great werk, what a mission! Hey if you record your streams like this split screen we can be in VR too by crossing your eyes till the images converge :-))
Good (x-)eye ;) I thought you'd get a z-inverted image when crossing the eyes (like with other split-images), but it's correct here. That makes me wonder why others have said it doesn't work for them on the VR-headset. Does the 3D work on your headset with this method?
This gets you up and running, there are a LOT of visual tweaks in the new menus that might make it better than Vorpx, but for now this is a quick'N dirty 1-2-3 :)
Using a Valve Index on a PC with 13700k- RTX4080 I got pseudo VR working for free using a similar setup. SteamVR, opentrack, Desktop + , and trackir turned on in Star Citizen. .. Head tracking is pretty laggy but does work, this could get stereo 3d working with that setup, far from perfect, but could work. Hoping for a renderer overhaul soon + major CPU optimization to make this more feasible.
There is a new method that bypasses EAC pinned at the top of my youtube channel that uses vorpx for VR. You can prolly use the bypass to help the VDesktop and Reshade method to work a lot better. But I highly reccomend getting vorpx if you have the money to do so, the internal VR menus for settings and QoL stuff built into it like opentrack and other features makes it worth it imo.
yes, its stereoscopic vr, using a curved image thats split in half per eye. Vorpx did all of this stuff natually, but now we need 3 different programs.
@@Chachi_Sanchez Ey Chachi, does it worth the hassle of setting all the stuff? i would like to play elite D. but now with odissey being not vr (only with the vanity cam) i dont know which to choose. SC seems a bit more versatile
@@chaosmusicstudio2710 I played plenty of SC in VR with Vorpx, you can catch me doing all sort of FPS missions in VR SC in a series called: One Life To Live where i try to do bunker mission back to back w/o dying. Even doing Mouse/keyboard for VR FPS is enjoyable and fun. If you got a controller, it might even be better depending on how you like to play. As far as the ships/cockpits go... you get to walk thru you ship interiors and get in and out of every chair/set. Its way better than ED can ever give you immersive wise. Internal VR support is coming to SC, and we'll have an interview with one of the CIG developers about that very subject soon!! Waiting on gen12/vulkan renderer to finish in the game b4 they can move forwards with that tho.
@@Chachi_Sanchez Thanks Chachi!! I have tried VD in the past and it was laggy even with my 3070ti and an old 2d game, so i am going to wait for proper vr support. Vorpx seemed to be more simple and better 3d stereo, but i will keep an eye on that internal VR support for sure!
@@Chachi_Sanchez Actually, I think it's pointless splitting the image in two as there is no depth information... All you're doing is splitting it - then joining it again lol... you may as well just have it big picture view with head tracking... someone correct me if I'm wrong, but without depth info it's just big picture...
Hi i installed Reshade latest version with superdepth3DVR But when i enable it in Star citizen there is no depth buffer, and i get high network activity discovered" so add-on disabled
Ya this tutorial uses reshade and depth3d for VR. Its ok, but you end up using like 3 or 4 different programs to get what vorpx can do by itself. BOTH methods dont have any extra depth due to the injectors being disabled thru EAC. So if you are asking which I prefer, Vorpx cuz its got edgepeak and internal VR menus to adjust settings on the fly.
yes, there is no depth anymore with the new methods that we are testing and trying, including desktop viewer mode using vorpx. Drop by the discord and use the troubleshooting channels if you are needing more help!!
Yes, but there isnt as much depth as there used to be before EAC. Its still stereoscopic, but its taking the Desktop Feed and adjusting it in your headset's view to make it as "VR" as possible since EAC messed everything up. VorpX Desktop Mode works the exact same, cept just a single program. Depending on headset and system, some methods work better than others. Drop by the VRse Discord if you have any troubshooting issues! o7
Once you get all the controls set, get the VR working, and everything else actually done, it should just plug and play every time. As long as SC plays nicely that is. Sometimes the game doesnt wanna launch, but thats part of SC being in alpha at this point. We are also trying out another method that does the exact same thing with VorpX's Desktop Viewer mode, but unfortunately it doesnt work on my computer correctly, so I dont have much more info than that for now!
@@Chachi_Sanchez thank you so much. I got a ne job so I'm planning on getting a HOSAS and VR for the full immersive experience! Ive done my windw shopping, but any recommendations on gear?
@@gi3119 if you are looking to get up and running for HOTAS, an X52 pro is a great starting place. If you are wanting HOSAS try looking into virpil or the new thrustmasters. As far as VR goes, try to snag a Index kit, its the best bang for buck for a full VR exp, they got the best touch controllers, solid mic, great headset, and ez to install base stations. let me know how everything goes!!
how do you find the show desktops bit when you dont have a steam headset/controler to go to steam vr home? So much of what you were doing must have been inside headset as I cant really follow what your doing here in a lot of cases
Index has a HOME Button on the bottom left of the headset, and i got my controller sitting behind my wheel/desk, its how i see my chat! And yes, you are watching the Desktop Feed of the game, not a VR Feed of whats going on in my headset.
its just taking your headtracking data from the headset and sending it to the headtracking system in SC engine. Yes opentrack CAN AND DOES track where the headset is positionaly in a 3d space the size of a room, SC wont do anything with that extra data, it just hooks into the xyz for the headmovements is all. You wont be able to move you body in SC with moving ur headset, you still have to move with wasd.
@@Chachi_Sanchez Hi i installed Reshade latest version with superdepth3DVR But when i enable it in Star citizen there is no depth buffer, and i get high network activity discovered" so add-on disabled
I can't figure out how to use the Steam Version of Virtual desktop. I know the pc version you just have to open up both apps on your pc and headset and make sure the usernames match but I don't see a username option on the steam version.
Drop by the Discord channel, you'll be able to ask questions and get more help from others who have used this method and gotten it working with other headsets. I honestly recommend using VorpX instead of Virtual Desktop cuz of how much easier everything is to setup and adjust while running. If you dont own VorpX already then I say its def worth it if you want VR for SC until they add it in game after Vulkan. Hope this helps o7
@@BiosoniX drop by the discord channel and ask if you are having problems setting i up or running it. Plenty of people have gotten a lot of problems taken care of by just checking around there and asking. Its impossible to keep the latest information in the comment sections on youtube.
drop by and ask/search in the discord, I think some one else has had that issue and solved it before, but i dont remember what it was. I mostly use Vorpx and recommend it over reshade if you are able. o7
@@Chachi_Sanchez Thanks. I have VorpX, was using it, with my Valve Index, until CIG/EAC nerfed it. I"ve seen some of your more recent stuff now, looks awesome. Clever!
@@0Triskelos0 Desktop mode in Vorpx is about as good as your going to get it visually, its the same as VDesktop and Reshade cuz both programs depth injectors are disabled due to EAC. VorpX will at least let you use edge peak when in Desktop Mode, and its able to bypass EAC that way, and you can still set it to "full VR" mode. Unless you have found some slight tweaks with reshade, I'd try out the VorpX Desktop Viewer if possible if you havent in a while.
Appreciate all your hard work with this, unfortunately I am not getting any depth effect either as others have said. So hopefully we'll get true VR in SC soon.
Yes, the current method doesnt give any depth, but is more of a headtracking monitor thats tied to your face and takes up ur entire FOV. The devs are aware of the problems with Vorpx and it not being allowed thru EAC, and thats as much info as we have currently on 3rd party work-arounds. VR will be able to start development in game once gen12 and vulkan are finished!
VorpX will full depth support and everything was awesome for VR for SC. Reshade doesnt actually have any depth added to it due to that part of the program not being allowed thru EAC since thats how other people inject cheats into games. Reshade works alright, but we are working to try to get vorpx to do the same thing reshade does w/o depth using desktop viewer mode thru vorpx. However, i cant get it to run on my current setup, so still testing things out. Drop by the discord to keep up with the latest VR developments for SC!
@@bogdanrotaru6101 Its still stereoscopic, but EAC disables the extra depth features while whitelisting Reshade. Its hard to explain but thats how I understand it to work for this method. And some have already pointed out that since there is no depth being added, why even use reshade.... well the answer is that I am firing from the hip and throwing whatever i can to see what works till something DOES work. And again, having said all that, drop by the discord to keep up with the latest information on VR support for SC, we are trying to use Desktop Viewer from VorpX to achieve the same things as depthless reshade.
Drop by the discord and ask. I dont use oculus, I have an index, but plenty of oculus people have gotten it working. Head to the disc and ask around o7
I wouldnt know as i havent personally tried, but maybe some one on the discord would know if you ask around the reshade troubleshooting channel. Opentrack would still be needed in general as its the program thats handling the xyz positional headtracking data hand-off to TrackIR within Star Citizen. Even if you use the new vorpx desktop viewer mode, you still have to install the standalone version of opentrack to get it all to work.
Its not Virtual Desktop, its using vorpx to create a stereoscopic reprojection onto your headset. From there you tweak the size/zoom/fov of the SC.exe window and then it works perfectly. Except the UI which isnt built for VR, so thats why you use the Vorpx Edgepeak feature to zoom the image away from your face and let you see the corners of the window in VR.
@@Chachi_Sanchez im using Quest 2 with Link cable, did it ever happen to you before with any other games that game freeze as soon as you check Depth 3d or superdepth 3d. thanks brother
@@ji3200 No, but I dont own a Quest2, but other people on the discord do. Check out the description and head over there to ask around and troubleshoot any problems that might arise... .Some one else might have already solved your issue!! Sorry to not be of more help here, but drop by the discord to ask question, there are over 250+ users over there that are all helping each other out whenever some one has a problem that cant be figured out!!
Great werk, what a mission! Hey if you record your streams like this split screen we can be in VR too by crossing your eyes till the images converge :-))
Good (x-)eye ;) I thought you'd get a z-inverted image when crossing the eyes (like with other split-images), but it's correct here. That makes me wonder why others have said it doesn't work for them on the VR-headset. Does the 3D work on your headset with this method?
Cheers mate! much appreciated.
Nice to see you found a workaround to EAC. This new setting looks good. 👍🏼
This gets you up and running, there are a LOT of visual tweaks in the new menus that might make it better than Vorpx, but for now this is a quick'N dirty 1-2-3 :)
Thanks for all your hard work
Using a Valve Index on a PC with 13700k- RTX4080 I got pseudo VR working for free using a similar setup. SteamVR, opentrack, Desktop + , and trackir turned on in Star Citizen. .. Head tracking is pretty laggy but does work, this could get stereo 3d working with that setup, far from perfect, but could work. Hoping for a renderer overhaul soon + major CPU optimization to make this more feasible.
There is a new method that bypasses EAC pinned at the top of my youtube channel that uses vorpx for VR. You can prolly use the bypass to help the VDesktop and Reshade method to work a lot better. But I highly reccomend getting vorpx if you have the money to do so, the internal VR menus for settings and QoL stuff built into it like opentrack and other features makes it worth it imo.
so in the end, is this steroscopic vision (3D?) or just a flat image in the VR headset?
yes, its stereoscopic vr, using a curved image thats split in half per eye. Vorpx did all of this stuff natually, but now we need 3 different programs.
@@Chachi_Sanchez Ey Chachi, does it worth the hassle of setting all the stuff? i would like to play elite D. but now with odissey being not vr (only with the vanity cam) i dont know which to choose. SC seems a bit more versatile
@@chaosmusicstudio2710 I played plenty of SC in VR with Vorpx, you can catch me doing all sort of FPS missions in VR SC in a series called: One Life To Live where i try to do bunker mission back to back w/o dying.
Even doing Mouse/keyboard for VR FPS is enjoyable and fun. If you got a controller, it might even be better depending on how you like to play.
As far as the ships/cockpits go... you get to walk thru you ship interiors and get in and out of every chair/set. Its way better than ED can ever give you immersive wise. Internal VR support is coming to SC, and we'll have an interview with one of the CIG developers about that very subject soon!!
Waiting on gen12/vulkan renderer to finish in the game b4 they can move forwards with that tho.
@@Chachi_Sanchez Thanks Chachi!! I have tried VD in the past and it was laggy even with my 3070ti and an old 2d game, so i am going to wait for proper vr support. Vorpx seemed to be more simple and better 3d stereo, but i will keep an eye on that internal VR support for sure!
@@Chachi_Sanchez Actually, I think it's pointless splitting the image in two as there is no depth information... All you're doing is splitting it - then joining it again lol... you may as well just have it big picture view with head tracking... someone correct me if I'm wrong, but without depth info it's just big picture...
Hi i installed Reshade latest version with superdepth3DVR
But when i enable it in Star citizen there is no depth buffer, and i get high network activity discovered" so add-on disabled
Drop by the discord and hit up the live chat troubleshooting channels, its easier to help out others there instead of in youtube comments.
Have you tried the new Reshade with Depth3d? Has this changed anything?
Ya this tutorial uses reshade and depth3d for VR. Its ok, but you end up using like 3 or 4 different programs to get what vorpx can do by itself.
BOTH methods dont have any extra depth due to the injectors being disabled thru EAC.
So if you are asking which I prefer, Vorpx cuz its got edgepeak and internal VR menus to adjust settings on the fly.
I did everything like your instruction but the result is a 2d image in a curved virtual screen. Have I lost something? Your channel is fantastic!
yes, there is no depth anymore with the new methods that we are testing and trying, including desktop viewer mode using vorpx. Drop by the discord and use the troubleshooting channels if you are needing more help!!
Do u get stereo scopic 3D this way?
Yes, but there isnt as much depth as there used to be before EAC. Its still stereoscopic, but its taking the Desktop Feed and adjusting it in your headset's view to make it as "VR" as possible since EAC messed everything up. VorpX Desktop Mode works the exact same, cept just a single program. Depending on headset and system, some methods work better than others. Drop by the VRse Discord if you have any troubshooting issues! o7
@@Chachi_Sanchez thx will do
Me again! Impressed with your work! Q: how long does it take to set up using this method each time you want star citizen vr?
Once you get all the controls set, get the VR working, and everything else actually done, it should just plug and play every time.
As long as SC plays nicely that is. Sometimes the game doesnt wanna launch, but thats part of SC being in alpha at this point. We are also trying out another method that does the exact same thing with VorpX's Desktop Viewer mode, but unfortunately it doesnt work on my computer correctly, so I dont have much more info than that for now!
@@Chachi_Sanchez thank you so much. I got a ne job so I'm planning on getting a HOSAS and VR for the full immersive experience! Ive done my windw shopping, but any recommendations on gear?
@@gi3119 if you are looking to get up and running for HOTAS, an X52 pro is a great starting place. If you are wanting HOSAS try looking into virpil or the new thrustmasters.
As far as VR goes, try to snag a Index kit, its the best bang for buck for a full VR exp, they got the best touch controllers, solid mic, great headset, and ez to install base stations. let me know how everything goes!!
how do you find the show desktops bit when you dont have a steam headset/controler to go to steam vr home? So much of what you were doing must have been inside headset as I cant really follow what your doing here in a lot of cases
Index has a HOME Button on the bottom left of the headset, and i got my controller sitting behind my wheel/desk, its how i see my chat!
And yes, you are watching the Desktop Feed of the game, not a VR Feed of whats going on in my headset.
Thanks for this detailed tutorial ! I only have one question : is open track allow you to do translations mouvement in the game ?
its just taking your headtracking data from the headset and sending it to the headtracking system in SC engine. Yes opentrack CAN AND DOES track where the headset is positionaly in a 3d space the size of a room, SC wont do anything with that extra data, it just hooks into the xyz for the headmovements is all. You wont be able to move you body in SC with moving ur headset, you still have to move with wasd.
@@Chachi_Sanchez
Hi i installed Reshade latest version with superdepth3DVR
But when i enable it in Star citizen there is no depth buffer, and i get high network activity discovered" so add-on disabled
I can't figure out how to use the Steam Version of Virtual desktop. I know the pc version you just have to open up both apps on your pc and headset and make sure the usernames match but I don't see a username option on the steam version.
Drop by the Discord channel, you'll be able to ask questions and get more help from others who have used this method and gotten it working with other headsets.
I honestly recommend using VorpX instead of Virtual Desktop cuz of how much easier everything is to setup and adjust while running.
If you dont own VorpX already then I say its def worth it if you want VR for SC until they add it in game after Vulkan.
Hope this helps o7
@@Chachi_Sanchez i just bought virtual deskstop ,,, 20 $ XD just to see that now we cant get help with that version X)
@@BiosoniX drop by the discord channel and ask if you are having problems setting i up or running it. Plenty of people have gotten a lot of problems taken care of by just checking around there and asking. Its impossible to keep the latest information in the comment sections on youtube.
will this work with a quest 2 headset?
Any updated advice for 3.17.1. The d3d11.dll change won't let the game start, some error message about unrecognized DirectX 11....?
drop by and ask/search in the discord, I think some one else has had that issue and solved it before, but i dont remember what it was. I mostly use Vorpx and recommend it over reshade if you are able. o7
@@Chachi_Sanchez Thanks. I have VorpX, was using it, with my Valve Index, until CIG/EAC nerfed it. I"ve seen some of your more recent stuff now, looks awesome. Clever!
@@0Triskelos0 Desktop mode in Vorpx is about as good as your going to get it visually, its the same as VDesktop and Reshade cuz both programs depth injectors are disabled due to EAC.
VorpX will at least let you use edge peak when in Desktop Mode, and its able to bypass EAC that way, and you can still set it to "full VR" mode.
Unless you have found some slight tweaks with reshade, I'd try out the VorpX Desktop Viewer if possible if you havent in a while.
Appreciate all your hard work with this, unfortunately I am not getting any depth effect either as others have said. So hopefully we'll get true VR in SC soon.
Yes, the current method doesnt give any depth, but is more of a headtracking monitor thats tied to your face and takes up ur entire FOV. The devs are aware of the problems with Vorpx and it not being allowed thru EAC, and thats as much info as we have currently on 3rd party work-arounds. VR will be able to start development in game once gen12 and vulkan are finished!
@@Chachi_Sanchez yeah I can't wait for that. I used to play ED in VR, can't imagine how SC looks like that!
have you been playing SC in VR with reshade? how is it compared to vorpx, quality wise?
VorpX will full depth support and everything was awesome for VR for SC. Reshade doesnt actually have any depth added to it due to that part of the program not being allowed thru EAC since thats how other people inject cheats into games.
Reshade works alright, but we are working to try to get vorpx to do the same thing reshade does w/o depth using desktop viewer mode thru vorpx. However, i cant get it to run on my current setup, so still testing things out. Drop by the discord to keep up with the latest VR developments for SC!
@@Chachi_Sanchez so just to make things clear: by depth you mean the 3D stereoacopic vision is missing from reshade?
@@bogdanrotaru6101 Its still stereoscopic, but EAC disables the extra depth features while whitelisting Reshade. Its hard to explain but thats how I understand it to work for this method. And some have already pointed out that since there is no depth being added, why even use reshade....
well the answer is that I am firing from the hip and throwing whatever i can to see what works till something DOES work.
And again, having said all that, drop by the discord to keep up with the latest information on VR support for SC, we are trying to use Desktop Viewer from VorpX to achieve the same things as depthless reshade.
Can u use oculus link instead of vd? I can’t get it to work, it loads in the steam thingy
Drop by the discord and ask. I dont use oculus, I have an index, but plenty of oculus people have gotten it working. Head to the disc and ask around o7
Do you know if the VR companion app for Re Shade works instead of Virtual Desktop and would I still need Opentrack to have it work. Thanks in advance.
I wouldnt know as i havent personally tried, but maybe some one on the discord would know if you ask around the reshade troubleshooting channel.
Opentrack would still be needed in general as its the program thats handling the xyz positional headtracking data hand-off to TrackIR within Star Citizen. Even if you use the new vorpx desktop viewer mode, you still have to install the standalone version of opentrack to get it all to work.
Hang on a minute. Head locking a giant VD screen will mean that all the stuff around the periphery of your VR headset's locked FOV will be invisible.
Its not Virtual Desktop, its using vorpx to create a stereoscopic reprojection onto your headset. From there you tweak the size/zoom/fov of the SC.exe window and then it works perfectly.
Except the UI which isnt built for VR, so thats why you use the Vorpx Edgepeak feature to zoom the image away from your face and let you see the corners of the window in VR.
Any idea why game freeze as soon as i check on superdepth3d
Not sure, what headset do you have? You can check out discord for more troubleshooting help there for live chat!! o7
@@Chachi_Sanchez im using Quest 2 with Link cable, did it ever happen to you before with any other games that game freeze as soon as you check Depth 3d or superdepth 3d. thanks brother
@@ji3200 No, but I dont own a Quest2, but other people on the discord do. Check out the description and head over there to ask around and troubleshoot any problems that might arise... .Some one else might have already solved your issue!! Sorry to not be of more help here, but drop by the discord to ask question, there are over 250+ users over there that are all helping each other out whenever some one has a problem that cant be figured out!!
@@Chachi_Sanchez thanks