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Wow
Yellow shirt girl stood on business 💯
Thank you for saying that. 🙏🏽
@@KytiaLamour God bless you!!! You were faithful, BOLD, and obedient. May God continue to strengthen you and bring you deeper and protect you. You did DAMAGE to the kingdom of darkness! Every tongue or hand that comes against you will be brought down by our King, keep shining your light boldly! You were such an encouragement to the body of Christ. Blessings.
@@TheGr8erPurpose Wow! What a powerful thing to say. I’m very grateful to have your support!! 🙏🏽
@@TheGr8erPurpose I’m just now seeing this reply! Thank you so much for your encouragement. I really appreciate your support and kind words. 💛
Definitely anointed and she embraces God's anointing over her whole heartedly.. You can tell that she reads her Bible and strives to respect and represent Christ.. it's beautiful.. her and Johnny are amazing followers of Christ.. they seemed to have been the actual anointed ones.
Johnny's expression the entire time he's not talking is "Lord help, give me patience, Lord help."
I would be praying for patience too if I had to sit across a man in a dress with a pentagram
The leg kicking at the end was seriously giving me the frustrated 5 year old vibes.
@@Max25670 couldn't have said it better
lol he talked about this on instagram live and that's basically it. But also likely because he is very free grace and I his interpretations differ from the other christians on the panel.
Spoke with Johnny a few weeks after the Jubilee thing. He had a lot of wisdom to offer but kept quiet because he felt it was casting pearls before swine.
Love is not sex. Sex is an expression of love and affection. You love your mother or brother but don't have sex with them. Sex is lust and is allowed only in marriage ordained by God.
You have a plank in your eye
@MichaelMcDonald-my2np how would you know?
@@jasonmclean7544 do you sin?
@@MichaelMcDonald-my2np That parabol is about hypocrisy. Repeating what is told by scripture is not meant by that.
Sex is not lust. It can be lust. Holy or godly sex is the giving of self to another, whilst lustful sex is for the fullfilment of pleasure.
Johnny and Kytia nailed it
Thank you! I appreciate the encouragement. 🙏🏽
100%!
I'm glad that Jubilee was able to find three Christians (including Jason) for an eight person panel on...Christianity. (sarc)
@@kingofthorns203 🤣
@@kingofthorns203 This is my third video with Jubilee and them actually having three Bible believing Christians who can defend the faith is actually a miracle. And I’m not exaggerating. 😅
I'm so tired of people using the falling in love argument like its some passive action. It's very much a decision. You don't love someone without choosing to spend time with them, share intimate details of your life, exchange gifts and physical touch, do stuff for one another. All those decisions build love. This ain't Greek mythology where Eros shoots his arrow and sparks nonvoluntary love. YOU made a choice. Own your choices!
Same.
You can give life to feelings of lust with your actions. Same as infatuation. And you can choose to not act on those feelings and direct your attention elsewhere. The Lord gives us the strength to. It’s all because of Him. 1 Corinthians 10:13 says so.
Might be painful but such is life. We are not promised an easy road. I myself might have to walk this earth without a spouse and if that’s God’s will then I accept it.
1 Corinthians 10:12 reminds me that my own attempts to be upright and moral are nothing to be proud of.
I can’t pridefully trust in my own sense of being in good spiritual standing with God. I’ll risk falling flat.
Besides, one can be married
or in a relationship and still experience loneliness.
That is a common human experience. The Lord does sometimes provide us with companionship, both romantically and through incredible friendships. We aren’t necessarily entitled to it. It’s a blessing and privilege.
Ultimately only Jesus can satisfy the deepest depths of emptiness and loneliness in the human heart. Humans can and will fail us. But the Lord will not. We need to seek Him first…
Love and desire are two very separate things. We have all sinned and we are all lost but when you choose to have an immoral sexual relationship with someone, you are telling God, if you believe, that i agree with following Your Word except for this thing here. Yep. God, You are great but You are wrong about gayness/fornication/x sexual sin and i am right. Therefore, God accepts me because i outargued the Almighty. I really do feel for those with gay attraction, it must be awful to feel you can't do anything about who you are attracted to. But it's no more difficult than me struggling to not lust after women that i am not married to. Ultimately, it all turns into a blame game on God. I have been there before too. Well, God, you made me a sexual creature, therefore, i am just acting like you designed if i watch porn. We are all damned and all savable but only through true repentance.
I assume you're straight. I am as well. But have you ever thought about it like this? Imagine there's an ancient text that many people believe in, and in that text it says that God says that it's immoral for you (as a woman) to have sex with a man. But... you KNOW that you're straight. So what do you do then? Do you adhere to this ancient text and go celibate the rest of your life (basically becoming an asexual person, since you're not "allowed" to have sex with the opposite sex even though you're attracted to them)? I look at this as an exercise in empathy. Do I know what it feels like to be attracted to the same sex? No. All I know is that I am a man who's attracted to women. But what if an ancient text stated that I *had* to be attracted to men? I couldn't do it. I couldn't make myself be attracted to men, even if it was commanded. I reckon this is how it would be for gay men and gay women.
This is why I don’t watch jubilee. They literally try to bait Christians into watching their videos by saying they brought Christians on. Then it turns out one of the “Christians” is gay and it turns into a 3v5 where the Christians are trying to explain to the “gay Christian” why homosexuality is a sin while the opposing side is interrupting and giving unhelpful emotionally driven input.
I said something similar in my comment. Jubilee is little better than that awful Whatever podcast
Literally bro it’s ridiculous, they keep saying the bible contradicts itself but when everything you say to them goes over their heads
they definitely were trying to paint Christians in a bad light. Theres a problem when people claim to be Christian but do not follow Christ's teachings, which leads others astray and give a bad impression of Christianity to non-believers. I think the Christians in the video shouldve said their piece, gave biblical teachings, and walked away from this entrapment
The thing is though, Jubilee started out as a Christian media team. The owner I believe is or was a Christian. If you ever watch their very early stuff, you can see where the shift started going and how “openly” they became to give others the same platform and space to talk.
This episode of Jubilee was pretty sad to watch for Johnny. For one of the prompts the content was not shared, in one of his lives Johnny shared a testimony of his mom being cured of cancer and they just dismissed it. In the end he said he just decided to be quiet coz they weren't open to hearing him, you can even see his body language
Johnny was definitely my favorite speaker. I think that the others ganged up on him because they FEAR knowledge
That’s so sad, but we thank God that the Kingdom of God is rejoicing because his son represented Him well. 🙌🏾
That's fucked up, makes me so sad and angry... he really deserves to be heard
Yeah he was saying offensive things and probably didn't want to offend people in the room, I'm glad he had the wisdom to be mute about it.
"I'm gonna burn in the fiery f-ing fire" oh man. Pray for this man.
Who said living a Christian life was supposed to be comfortable?
quite the opposite huh? 💯 it is very uncomfortable at times
yeah it is a path of suffering. I was never told this in church, much to my detriment.
Yup, and I get reminders of that more often than I thought. To get used to being outside the comfort zone. The Bible is littered with stories of men and women stepping out of the comfort zone for the glory of the Lord
Then one could ask, what is the point of living? I know you have faith in heaven, but for those who don't, what would be the point of living if you force yourself to suffer and repress your own self?
@@TitoProphetOfSloths Life brings plenty of suffering on its own. Repression is something perhaps everyone does to a certain extent regardless of their beliefs. The point? What do you mean?
So much respect for the lady in yellow (Kytia), for keeping her composure , being loving , empathetic, but also speaking the truth in Christ. Also so much respect for the man in red (Johnny), I have felt how he has during these kind of conversations so many times. It’s just encouraging to see that these conversations are being had and that God’s Word never fails.
Thank you for saying that! It was a very interesting conversation and I appreciate your positive feedback regarding how we conducted ourselves. Glory to God. 🙏🏽
Her and Johnny are awesome and glad they were chosen to speak for the Christian community! God Bless them both 🙏🏼
@@Jayy1K. Thank you. That’s very kind!
Oh yes …Johnny has an awesome testimony on UA-cam of his personal journey in Christ …❤️❤️
I love how she separated love from sexuality. It really gets to the root issue of the sexual revolution
Thank you for saying that. The Holy Spirit gave me that insight in that exact moment. The more I ponder on it, the more it makes sense. Isn’t God good?!🙏🏽
Sex and love are natural and neither are shameful or wrong. Have a blessed day 🫶🏻
@@loganvineyard2856 Gr4pe is also seen very often in nature, yet I'm sure you're not an advocate of it. Please don't lie to me because you've done it to yourself. Stick to the book, and may the Lord Jesus bless you with a saving comprehension of the faith 👍
So glad to have your thoughts on our Middle Ground discussion. And you were 100% spot on about where I was coming from in my interactions with Jake. Thank you both for taking the time to share your perspectives! 🙏🏽
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@@mariembuenaventura1278Thank you. 🙏🏽
I truly appreciate how you and Johnny represented our faith. It seemed like you two were 2 vs 6 at times. Some of those discussions looked really tough to be in. I'd like to think I could have done what you did, but even among my friends I sometimes don't share what I really believe when they bring up lgbtq stuff in fear of losing ties with them. One of my best friends came out as trans a couple years ago and I wasn't as strong in my faith then as I am now so I supported the decision. I am scared my entire friend group will disown me if I speak up. My sister is gay and has a female fiance, many friends are gay/bi/non binary or just "allies" if they are straight. I feel like I am walking on egg shells when I am around them.
It takes real strength and conviction to sit there among a group of people like that and state unpopular truths. This is a conversation I know I'm going to have to have with some of my friends eventually. Thank you for inspiring me to remain honest when I do so.
@@96Logan I understand the fear. I had a lot of tough conversations behind closed doors that built up my courage to speak up on public platforms like this. I did lose friends and there are family members I don’t talk to right now because of how toxic it got when they couldn’t manipulate me to think or act how they wanted me to as I drew closer to Christ.
My best advice is just to focus more on your walk with Jesus because He can give you directions on how to navigate these conversations and stand on the truth. 🙏🏽
What Johnny and the young lady in yellow said can be applied to all sin. I thank God my struggle is not with same-sex attraction, but I pray for those who do struggle with it and I most definitely will apply what they said to my own sinful inclinations. Jesus is Lord. May God bless you all💚
Thank you for saying that! I’m glad you understood the points we were trying to make in the video, we’re not just singling out one type of sin.
Absolutely! All sin falls short. We cannot pick and choose which sins we accept. We must take all of them to the cross.
Also provide support for said sins and grace. Jackie Hill Perry had a church who loved on her and helped that gracious journey towards knowing Jesus.
Yep 100% God sees all sin the same way, it doesn’t matter if it’s homosexuality or divorce he sees it all the same. Sin is a rebellious nature against God, and humanity’s natural inclination is to sin. It’s a choice to resist sin and follow Christ. Those who kept arguing against Johnny and the lady in yellow kept trying to widen the gate to heaven, but that’s not how it works.
What people don’t understand is that there is no “trying to not be gay”. We can’t cleanse ourselves from our own sin, only Jesus can do that. He makes us holy through our own sanctification process. As we follow and obey Him, He alone cleanses us from our iniquity. It’s never been something we could do in our own strength. If it was, Jesus would have never had to have been sacrificed for our sins.
Well said!
We all have to CHOOSE to surrender to God
Amen! Sweet Jesus!
Gee, I wish I had known that the 26 years I blindly followed that mindset that ultimately proved to be unfruitful.
I kind of see your point but I think you’re mixing it up a little bit. It sounds like the way you presented it that because we have all fallen short of the glory of God - Romans 3:23 - that sin is an involuntary choice because of who we are. We cannot follow God’s Law perfectly, but we are to do our best and when we mess up, Jesus is our Savior and we can repent and ask for forgiveness. Jesus says “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.” John 14:15. For some, when they get close to God and actively pursue Him and read His Word, they are transforming their minds and are willing to resist temptation even though it’s hard and to trust in God to help them resist temptation. Something that’s very important to remember is that we cannot allow our emotions to dictate our actions when not coming from Godly reasons. Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?” We cannot always trust our emotions to be coming from a good reason. Even when tempted, we can rationalize, know that God says not to do what we are tempted to do, know it’s for our good, and despite resisting our flesh, overcome temptation by holding to the Word of God.
“For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and self-discipline.” (2 Tim. 1:7)
Say it a bit louder so that the ones in back can hear you. Amen!!🙏
You know what you’re saying is the truth when sinful/hateful people become uncomfortable and want to stop you from telling the truth
Amen!
Says the dude with the religion founded on victimizing and demonizing anyone who doesn't follow the same religion
These people don't know what love is; they're coming into agreement with demonically induced illusions. My testimony: After being an atheist for 8+ years, and "married" to another female, I got the urge one day to say out loud "IF there is an Almighty God that does NOT wish us pain or sorrow, please bring me truth, I wish to know you exist". Then God immediately started bringing me the answers I had been searching 8-11 YEARS for! I witnessed Him take control of my internet and the rest of my reality; He first proved to me that demons exist (I called them "inter-dimensional beings"), then He proved His own existence, which I later found to be Jesus Christ. As soon as I found Jesus at the end of 2020, He IMMEDIATELY took away my transgenderism, bisexuality, depression, daily suicide attempts, self harm, bulimia and anorexia; and He did this all without me asking Him to, because THAT'S how merciful and loving He is! Praise God!
What an amazing testimony you have 🙏🏼 thank you for sharing. Praise the Lord!! And this is what I always say- seek God for yourself. As long as you are willing to admit you could be wrong about everything you believe, you can definitely hear Him and He will always reveal himself
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing this testimony! Praise God for He is so wonderful to meet us in the dirt but won't leave us there.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 wow hallelujah praise the Lord !!!! God bless you!!
Amazing testimonial! ❤
@@jesscook demons arent real
Grow up lol
Had to pause it halfway through. Aside from the bad theology, when Jake says "I cannot help who I fall in love with", he demonstrates he does not understand love. He is describing lust, not love. You actively choose to love someone. If you listen to him, you hear "I think ... I want ... I ... I .... I." He has created his own Hell because he has failed to realize that a relationship with God is not about "me, me, me", but rather about God.
This is true, but I understand what Jake is saying only because most Christians I feel like start out where he is at rn. If I had to guess, he probably became a Christian within the last few years and never really read the Bible and is moreso just looking to feel something. The problem when you do that is you don’t understand god’s word and you just end up using god to rationalize what you think is right. I used to have that philosophy, and I know most new Christians start out like this too. It’s only once we read and actually understand the Bible we realize our thoughts are not god’s thoughts. I hope and believe Jake gets there too one day.
@@shushanthswinderballs1122 If he came into Christianity recently, he’s not doing it properly. He claims to be Catholic and I’m pretty certain he’d have to confess having sex with another man as a sin and repent for that sin before he could be confirmed and welcomed into the church. It’s weird, I felt like everything he was saying was so out of touch with Christianity and Catholicism. It’s like he just calls himself Catholic without putting in any of the work.
I think the 'choosing to love' people like yourself are honestly economic opportunists, they are deluding themselves into thinking a rich person is someone you really love.
They never let real Christian’s reach their point. Only what scratches their itching ears
They only let the gay Christian finish his thought. None of the others.
Love is idolatry for most people now a days, they want it so bad that they'll do whatever to feel loved. 1 Corinthians chapter 13 tells everyone what love truly is. Has nothing to do with sex.
At 12:14 my thought was "Is being born a psychopath a hallpass for killing others? because that's what you desire and crave to do?" It's so hypocritical to say "I was born gay so god must've intented this for me and I can life like this." And yet if a psychopath, sociopath, someone who has inappropriate feelings for kids says the same, it doesn't count anymore. How is that any different?
They are slowly trying to accept that crap also .. all the demonic agenda is heading that way …
Because in all those cases, acting on those feelings means there's an unwilling participant or victim involved. Not even remotely the same situation.
@@johnnysalami7813 You manage those feelings and express them in a more appropriate manner, not having an entitlement to them.
It doesn’t _really_ matter who is interacting with this person, it’s their own responsibility to behave. It’s not contingent on another person to accommodate a person’s private matters.
They need to invite you to the next Christian episode …
The scriptures are solid and firm on this issue. All the discussions in the world can happen, it doesn't change what's written. A person either submits to what God has said or they don’t. So, even if they tried to prove their case as to why it should be ok, and even if everyone there said "oh ok", it changes nothing. God is the one who created man and set the standards on his own creation. No matter how heavy one pleads their case, God’s not changing his word or his stance.
When Jesus says “depart from me, I never knew ye” this is who he was talking about 💁🏽♂️
when I hear someone say they were born this way, the best thing to say is ye must be born again!
Amen Rus! Love you bro bro 🙏🫡
For ten years, I suffered from chronic Lyme disease, arthritis, gallbladder issues and constant chronic pain. The doctors said I would not recover. I was in agony daily, and I watched others die around me with late stage diseases.
Prayer healed me when medicine failed me. God fully healed my disease. When Jesus found me I got baptised and started following the bible. God gave me a new family. My life is full of meaning. My heart is full of gratitude. I want to love others and share his work. You are unique to God and you are special to Him.
Today I am free from disease! I got married and I gave birth to a healthy baby.
Don't listen to the people who hate and talk negatively. God is kind, patient and he loves you with an everlasting love. Seek the Lord while he may be found (Isaiah 55:6-9)
Psalm 41:3
“The Lord sustains them on their sickbed and restores them from their bed of illness.”
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Beautiful testimony so happy you have been freed! ❤️
@adaleide1262 Thank you I am glad it can give others hope
Amen!! That’s amazing ❤☺️
Love has so much more meaning and value when its an active choice. CHOOSING to love someone won’t always be easy and that’s why it’s stronger.
Im christian and same sex attracted. It is IMPORTANT to remember that you if you put gay, bi, pan, or whatever as your gender/sexuality before or even after you claim you're a child of God, you're not claiming God.
True facts
That’s one aspect…another would be…not becoming friends with people who are openly lgbt…Jesus says we are a “royal priesthood, we are set apart from the world” he also says he’s making us new…the old creation has been crucified…
You're spot on! God gives us our identity. We must identify with victory of Jesus. We are on the winning team.
Same. The shame is unbearable at times.
@@Jake-jh9in I don't know where you are with God, but I hope you know that's not God who gives you the shame.
Ruslan, thank you. I used to hate your content, because you were not clear about sin. But you have turned to fight the battles we need to in this modern world. Thank you so much, the change in you is truly a testimony and an encouragement.
Amen! I had sensed the same thing but instead of sitting in my own judgement and still giving it to the Lord I was promoted for pray for him and many of our brothers and sisters on the platform. This is spiritual warfare and a house divided is a house that cannot stand. We need to keep praying for the body of Christ especially those out there in the public eye, of course the devil is gonna mess with them even more so, we need to stand up with them, especially in the spiritual realm, interceding standing in the gap. Nothing is impossible for God. He’s faithful to complete what He has started in someone, all glory to Him the Most High for His grace and kindness.
I Renounce my heart because it's wicked
Also, I would love to see Kytia on this channel!
I would LOVE that as well!!!
👀
Yeah I would too. I like her and Johnny Chang.
I was hoping someone would mention that you also have a UA-cam channel. Would love to see y'all discuss your experience on Ruslan's channel! @@KytiaLamour
@@karissadugan2996 Thanks for sharing that!
God bless Johnny for being patient through this.
People refuse to give up their own passion and deny themselves....Lord I hope all those people leave feeling different and this conversation will plant seeds for your kingdom in Jesus name amen...We are starting to see the standard the Lord is raising in this time there will be no compromise either in or out...Lord have mercy in Jesus name amen...The Flesh is hostile to the Lord that's why we choose to die daliy to our flesh...
Amen. We need to pray unceasingly and put on the holy armor of God.
I was in a homosexual life style before confessing Christ as my Lord and Savior . I grew up Catholic, not consistently practicing, I never knew the difference between God the Father, God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit and didn’t care about Jesus or God really me entire life . I believed in God but not the one true God and I had not priority or importance for Him . I was never promiscuous in my life and was more of a hopeless romantic . As long as 12 years old I fell in love with my long time ex girlfriend and always told myself that being gay isn’t bad it is just love , I also was not concerned with God and what being gay to Him meant . My girlfriend at that time believed she was born gay and that God made her that way and she hated God . I was never satisfied always felt unhappy as if I was missing something my entire life and all I wanted was love . Fast forward to 2019 God called me that year January specifically to come back home to Him . I was not searching or looking for God or Jesus at all and from January 1st 2019 till presently I have never looked back at my old life . Jesus Christ was what was missing . The more I got to know Christ the more I understood why being gay isn’t apart of His plan for myself . Praise you Lord Jesus for opening my eyes . I love Jesus Christ so much and I understand what that woman felt in that moment when she was talking to that brother in Christ about him searching for Christ . She isn’t wrong because I was there but my flesh made me live in denial for majority of my life and I could see Jesus behind her with His heart being broken for that Catholic brother .
the HOLY SPIRIT gives you the power to change! pray that they have this conversation with the right person.
My gosh. I would love to sit in a panel like this and stand boldly on scripture. I would not be invited back
Extremely good reminder video for me as a Christian to ponder too. To obey God's words and not just focus on our feeling.
Jubilee is maybe a half step above the Whatever podcast. Both platforms are dumpster fires whose only benefit to the internet is illustrating just how deeply conversation has devolved. Lord, please watch over this fallen and divided world.
I had a boyfriend once who threatened to kill himself if I broke up with him. Forty years later, he’s still alive, without me. Huh!
One of the big arguments I see a lot of gay "Christians" use is that they just love who they love, and that they can't change that, and that they feel so lonely and broken if they can't have fulfilling romantic relationships like others do. But the big issue here is that they're completely missing the problem with that statement/desire. It's putting your own desire and wants before God, and the assumption that everyone in life is supposed to be guaranteed a fulfilling romantic relationship, when in reality nowhere in the bible does it state that Christians are supposed to hold romantic relationships, or even marriage, on such a guaranteed pedestal as one of the greatest goods humanity can achieve. The greatest good is Christ, and when we have Him, we have everything and all we need. That means, all your earthly desires, including romantic relationships and marriage, should be placed at Jesus feet. Even heterosexual believers should lay everything down, they are not guaranteed a happy marriage or anything like that either. It is a more beautiful thing to see when believers are able to sacrifice all these things, for the sake of having Christ. Believers today need to understand that we idolize a lot of things before God, even though we may state otherwise with our lips and in our worship. Whether that be our family, our relationships, our health, desire to choose what we want to do with our lives, etc. Until we know how to fully surrender, we'll continue to struggle.
Well said 🙏🏼
Amen!
I watched this whole discussion and I feel like Kytia (yellow sweater) and Johnny (red Adidas outfit) were the only two TRUE Christians there. Blue shirt guy is very lost and the older Asian guy (who holds the title of pastor) also said some questionable things. At the beginning he even said “Jesus could be lying.” Maybe I misunderstood the context, but I don’t know in what context you could possibly be saying that about Jesus.
I don't mean to sound disrespectful of others, but I also noticed that the Pastor seemed (in my opinion) unable to defend aspects of Christianity in a logical manner...he seemed to believe but not WHY he believed, which is I think the next step in Christian understanding. I guess what I am saying is he didn't seem as knowledgeable as he should be for one in the position of Pastor.
I watched the whole Jubilee video and the extended cut on Patreon. Jason did okay on some of the other prompts, but Kytia really held it down throughout! 👏🏾🙌🏾
Thank you for your kind words. I truly believe every Christian there was trying to be honest about their walk with God (the humility of that is refreshing) and we all have room to grow. 😊
@fitbabe You have no authority of saying who is or isn't a true Christian. Stop reciting the thoughts of ruslin. We are not to judge hold faith in god and lead with grace🙏
The blue guy next to Sir Johnny, is I think Pastor John? he has this like Sir Ray Comfort style but in an Uber setup. Maybe he is trying a different approach? but he is knowledgeable not sure why he tried that approach.
God is love, but what some followers of Christ forget is God is holy, Jesus is Holy.
Yellow shirt girl STOOD ON BUSINESS!!!
Get Johnny Chang on the pod!
I use to be homosexual and thought that’s how I was born. I was delivered and it was a process just like every other sin. I’m happily married and in love with God
I think the better place to begin this discussion is Jeremiah 17:9-10
“The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?“
Gays Loving other dudes even if they fall in love is a sin also because it's an attached love. your supposed to love someone for the sake of God. That's why people back then didn't even know the person they were gonna marry. The parents mostly chose for them who were they going to marry.
I’m over here sitting and listening and agreeing with everything y’all saying and then suddenly I got hit with a “woah… a year ago I would’ve NEVER seen this as truth…” I would’ve been so upset with all the things being said, but God is so good. He brought me out of the lgbt lifestyle and I never thought my sexual identity could ever be changed. Not I know my identity is rooted in Christ and nothing can pull me away from His loving arms 🙏♥️
One thing thats important to remember is to use the word…use the word. Because how can someone say they love Jesus then argue against His word? Using testimonies is a good method but I think the most effective is the word. Jesus said “if you love me you will keep my commandments”. This same Jesus said “I and the Father are one”. Therefore keeping Jesus’s commands means to keep the commands of the Father. The Father is not “the God of the Old Testament”, He is God. Period. The Father, the Son and The Spirit are one and that’s established in the book of genesis.
The thing I am noticing is that we don’t really believe in the power of Christ. And I know that because so often we make excuses for why we don’t give up certain things but fail to realize that the Jesus is powerful enough to deliver us from the sins that feel impossible to let go of. I pray for our deliverance in whatever areas we aren’t trusting Christ in
In our two and a half hour conversation, we definitely brought up the Word of God several times, but it was almost always dismissed. Each person in the group who didn’t live a Christian life ignored the scriptures we brought up or simply said “that’s not what it means”. So, yes, people argue against the Word all the time unfortunately because it’s not important to them. 🙏🏽
This is such an important conversation that we need to be having. As believers we need to stand on Gods Word as the final authority on Gods standard for our lives. However we need to be willing to allow the Spirit to help us show Gods grace, love AND truth to people in the lgbtq+ community. The Bible says that Jesus was full of grace AND truth. He wasn’t one and not the other. He wasn’t half grace and half truth. He was FULLY one while FULLY the other. We can show them kindness and love while still not compromising the truth of Gods Word. But it has to be done by His Spirit working in us or it will profit nothing. I came from this community when I first got saved 22 years ago and I know that through Christ, all things are possible.
If you say you're an ex Christian i don't think you ever really were one
Song of Solomon 3:5
Daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you by the gazelles and by the does of the field: Do not arouse or awaken love until it so desires.
Amen, the greatest video ever. Thank you so much for this much needed 💗
It’s interesting. The Christians tell folks what _scripture says_ and the reply is always, “So do _you_ think I’m going to hell?”
My guy, the word of God is saying “pick up your cross.” Not me. I’d rather leave the thing at home. Safe and secure in the corner of a broom closest.
I can’t though. No matter how badly I want what _I_ want. No matter how much I crave being comfortable above most anything else. I pick up that old thing, ask God for the grace to carry it, and to carry it in a way that honors Him.
The heart wants what it wants, but the word of God tells us that the heart is wicked and deceitful above all things. So, “lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways acknowledge HIM, and he will make all of your paths straight.”
Heh. Straight. Interesting choice of words. I’m rambling now, pardon me, I’ll sum up.
Whatever sin you are dealing with, understand that it isn’t supposed to be easy to give up. Short of the Holy Spirit doing a miraculous work (…and He most certainly can) _in_ you. Your heart needs time to be refined into something at _least_ resembling The Father’s.
Don’t become a slave to Comfort. It’s a terrible master. It’ll have you wallowing in pig filth, but so long as it’s _your_ pig filth, wallow you will. Fight it. Fight it hard. You won’t want to, or maybe your heart isn’t so calloused over yet that you will, know this though: Victory can ONLY be found in The Lord.
I digress, back to the video to wrap up: Even _IF_ you _were_ born this way, those impulses that drive you, at least those that run contrary to the will of God (which He conveniently had written down for us at a 5th grade reading level) must be CRUCIFIED TO THE CROSS. Every moment, of every day. Then, we carry that thing, until we learn to take the yoke of Jesus in its place which is “easy, and light” by comparison. Time, and faith that our savior will keep his word are all that it takes.
That, and a little bit of gumption.
Okay, I need coffee.
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Where's the standing ovation button youtube???
Amen and amen.
I’d like to add, after a moment of - let’s call it clarity, that “wanting to leave my cross behind” is not a healthy attitude. Well, not a _mature_ one at any rate. I ought be further along in my growth than that.
Don’t settle for begrudging, obligatory service. You’d hate receiving that sort of “love” from your spouse. If that’s all that you know to give (of) yourself, then I promise it will only lead to resentment on either end.
While our Father has far more grace than even the most gracious of marital partners, why take it for granted? It cheapens the very thing that ought to be _priceless_ to us.
We love Him *because* He FIRST loved us. He demonstrated that love in that “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Because he carried his cross, we absolutely _can_ carry ours. Doing so should be an act of thanksgiving!
Bleh…once again I digress.
I hope I grow to a point where service (especially when done for those I claim to love and honor), of any kind, is done out of love - rather than obligation. If for no other reason than to show my gratitude to a good, and (at the risk of sounding redundant) _gracious_ God, and to those He’s entrusted me with.
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Edited again to add: I _hate_ washing dishes. I *love* my wife. I will wash dishes until I no longer view it as a chore, but an _opportunity_ to express my devotion to, and adoration of, her.
I will carry my cross until the Lord has decided it’s my time to put it down again. Until then…until it is no longer a chore…
Lord help me.
I find that too many people mix up desire and love. Love is a choice. Where desire is all the chemical stuff that makes you think you have fallen in love.
I was legit sad when I watched this episode. But I’m happy Kytia and Johnny was there. Kytia was definitely being used by Holy Spirit
Everyone has free will. Since God is life, He will never go against his nature and his word. Therefore since God created marriage between man and woman, anything outside of that is not of God because at the end of it all, He called it good.
I watched this full interview twice, the blue shirt guy says that he parties and makes adult content. He is living in sin and causing others to stumble. I hope he truly repents before it's too late, I love him.
was hoping you were gonna make this vid, Ruslan you don’t miss🔥
His answer said it all. “I” don’t want to be alone I want I want I want. Nothing was about I want Jesus I want to do what HE wants.
No one addressed how perverted he was throughout the video just because he has a “calm voice”
This Podcast is underrated. Very podcast dropping gems 💎 pray my husband will listen to your podcasts 🙏
Though I don't struggle with homosexuality, this has convicted me of the sins that I commit, and I'm grateful for this video. Glory to the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏🏽
😂 yall are hilarious!!
Back when I listened to this video I wanted to be Kytias best friend and I hella wanted to jump in the whole conversation with them cause boy o boy😤❤️🔥but it was overall a good discussion and I saw them still get along cordially!
I also saw it as opportunity to pray for them.
jubilee tried to set the 3 Christians up and Johnny realized it quick and just bowed out lol
was a sad watch. To me that felt like it really wasnt ex christians, it was about LGBTQ. Those people have not experienced Christ at all, they just know about religion. Thats why i love the part when Jake told them all he truly believes they know Jesus but are not ready to accept it. They all got crazy agitated at this point too
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They should've had Beckett Cook on this episode....his got an awesome testimony!! Also a UA-camr, what an incredible man.... 😊👌🏼🇿🇦❤️🔥
Yes!! He would be great on here ❤
@@kaoshi_kutie they likely wouldn't have let him get a word in...
I'm so tired of even having or hearing these conversations. You can lead a horse to water...
Love this 🙏
I left a gay lifestyle 4 years ago and decided to follow God. I have never been happier. I realize now that it was an active choice I made to be gay. But at the time, I really believed I was made that way. The pressure to conform was tremendous. To be in the alphabet group, you had to think like them. I look back now and feel like I wasted 20 years chasing something that doesn’t exist. But. Have Jesus now and life s good.
its not a choice, whether or not you realise it. it is not a choice.
@@ViscusUA-camIt doesn’t matter if you can choose your sexual orientation. The point is to choose Life. To choose to follow Gods commands. That’s the point.
@@ZekeMagnar nah I’m not choosing the magic fairy in the sky over reality.
@@ViscusUA-cam No one's telling you to, genius. I was just replying to your claim, explaining that that's not what the church focuses on.
@@ZekeMagnar except that’s what assholes focus on, as a teenager I was bullied relentlessly by so called ‘loving Christian’s’ for being gay before I found a group of friends that actually accepted me and didn’t give a shit. Most of them were assholes, ‘didn’t want anything to do with me’ but would still find the time to come and be downright offensive. Not a very nice group of people.
"You can't help who you love, and you're not supposed to."
Really? what if the person you fall in love with is married? What if you're the married one and you fall in love with someone else other than your spouse?
'Falling in love' does not mean we have to act on it.
I don’t care what nobody says…me, Jesus AND The Holy Spirit cracked up on Ruslan’s take about the lace dress my man was wearing 😂😂😂😂😂 at the 15:50 mark.
If you love someone more then god then You are not worthy of him.
I’m Gay… I’m a Christian…. I believe in the word of God.
Loving the wrong things can be sinful.
Preach sis
Paul described homosexual behavior as self-abuse, not love. The real problem today is people don't know what love is anymore.
People keep equating sexuality to concepts like race and that's not true.
Poor Johnny. He's like, should I try to reach them again or are they so far away from listening. I tried.
Love IS NOT sex. Love, first off, is selfless/self-sacrificial. You can't be loving and prideful at the same time, they don't mix, EVER. Love puts others before self. Love is about truth, not lies. Love tends to hurt, but only so strength is built up afterward for the soul, it's like working out with muscles. Love resists evil. Love does not equate to perversity. Love originated from God.
A choice is a choice even if it is subconscious.
We are not allowed to lust after our husband/wife. We are to love them.
Your *flesh* will continue to allow you to say the things you choose to do wasn’t based on your *flesh*
THIS VIDEO WAS LEGIT MY ENTIRE REACTIONNNN
I tried watching the full video awhile back as it had popped up in my suggestions. I immediately thought something along the lines of “not happening”. I finally clicked on it and after 20ish minutes I couldn’t take it anymore. Anyone that watches this all the way through… I’ll tip my cover to you
THANK YOU, this shouldnt be an argument but unfortunately it is. ❤
If what they saying is true then they saying pedophilia is ok
But if u present that concept they will say pedophilia is wrong but they don’t think homosexuality is?
Really illogical.
Don't forget that they are going to throw a massive fit about you comparing them to pedophiles, ditto bestiality.
This is a very good reaction. I watched this Jubilee video a couple of weeks ago, and it vexed me. You actually caught every point that I made while watching it.
The truth is... we are witnessing 1 Cor 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
“I’ve never had to deny myself and need instant gratification so the fact this is taking more than 20 seconds is pissing me off” KILLED ME 😭🤣🤣
Going to preface with, I am not a religious person. The way I have come to see how these religions see homosexuality is; There is nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to inappropriate people(such as that of the same sex), that is the definition of temptation, it is your moral and virtuous responsibility to god and yourself(and society) to not be swayed by these temptations. I find religion to be fascinating. All cultures and societies across human history have engaged in religious and/or cult beliefs. I may not be religious, but I find it very easy to understand and respect these beliefs.
I had so many thoughts when i watched this video, but what I feel the Lord asking me after all the chaotic debates, comments, etc. Is that God gave us the bible so that we would know history, and the word of God which has survived for CENTURIES! Why would we throw it out? Why challenge its meaning when its simple? Why should we question God when we should be questioning ourselves? 😔 The Lord loves me enough to save me from myself. All he wants is our praise. And we should want to serve, obey, and praise ❤ Life is not always easy, but he gives us the strength
After listening a few scrptures jump to mind. Jesus love is transformative. From the criminal on the cross to the Saul who became Paul His love can reach anyone. Believing that His love is not transformative yet calling yourself a Christian is akin to having a form of godliness but denying the power thereby. All who follow him must deny themselves i thinkl that's where we all struggle.
Love is willing the good of the other. That's a Catholic, Thomas Aquinas teaching btw.
There are also different kinds of love in the Greek language (One of the original languages the Bible was written in.) Biblically speaking, the one that we often refer to when thinking of Christ's sacrifice is "agape" love, often translated to "charity" in English. There is also eros (sexual passion) and philia or affection/friendship.
Driven by Epigenetics, early attachment issues can also convince you that your path is right although it may be misconceived.
Go for deliverance,let someone cast out those demons thats lying to you,in Jesus name!
They need you on that show!
Gotta get Johnny on the podcast
I have never married, so I made the decision remain celibate. The situation was not my choice, but my response to it is.
I always find it funny that people say, “I was born this way” is totally fine. But when they hear that someone is attracted to kids, all of a sudden that’s where “they” draw the line. “Go and sin no more” is not just about your sexuality, but everything else in your life. But in today, people are only focused on the LGTV instead of all other sins.