Same. I’m not even interested in buying any of these cars but I can’t help but watch. He’s just enjoyable to watch and listen to, and LEARN from, and it’s not every day such a talented and effective communicator comes along.
@@BigBear-- Personally, I also like Scotty Kilmer because I'm also cheap and I don't like to pay for knick-knacks that add cost to car repairs. I like keeping my cars for a long time so I don't have car payments. I'm currently driving a 2009. I haven't had car payments since 2012, LOL. Yeah, these cars are reliable to say 150k miles, what happens after that? Scotty focuses on longevity. What I don't save on gas by not driving a hybrid, I more than save by not having car payments.
@@FM-gv7sb 150K miles for the average driver means 10-12 years of ownership. When we say 150K reliable miles, usually means nothing needs to be done other than general maintenance. It doesn't mean the car instantly dies at 150K, it just means at that point it might need some part replacement, or repair. Which on these, after 10 years will normally be pretty cheap to do. I don't see timing chains/water pumps/oil pumps/fuel pumps/spark plugs/coils/alternators/shocks/bushings/etc. As major issues to get done after 150K miles, to keep the car going another 50k-100k-150K miles.
Been following you for over a year. Factory Honda Tech from 1976 till 1985 when I opened my own Honda repair business until I retired in 2006. You have the best channel I have seen. It helps me keep up on info and informed on car purchases. Thank you sir.
I've now had my 2023 Sport Touring CRV since April, and came back to watch your review again. I've watched SO many reviews of this vehicle, and I still enjoy yours the most. Your only error(s): the seats are genuine leather, not leatherette, though they are not as pliable as in my previous leased high end Accords. And the button on the steering wheel is not for the heated seats, it's for the heated wheel (I always thought that was a superfluous add-on, but after handling wet, cold gates at the end of my driveway, it is a fast-warming delight!). Now that we're into cold weather season, my mileage has fallen off, especially on the highway, mostly 26-28 mpg...less than my previous 2 liter/10 speed Accord Touring. But the urban cycle eventually reaches 38-42 if I drive a long enough distance. Pure EV at the start has disappeared in the cold. Overall acceleration remains excellent off the line. The Bose system is the best ever in a Honda, standard only in Touring Accords, Civics, and CRVs. Thankfully, I still have satellite radio, no longer available in the Accord. Miss the HUD. Overall, I still look forward to every drive I take in my CRV. I had 7 high end Accords leased prior to this, and the Sport Touring CRV remains the most refined Honda I've had, with remarkably little body roll for an SUV. I live in Buffalo, but still not chance to try my Snow mode as of December 4th. :) It's slower than my 2020 Touring Accord, but it's not SLOW. Storage capacity has already come in handy twice, taking my bike to a repair shop. Seat height is PERFECT for my aging knees, unlike entrance and egress in the Accord.
@@v12kingV10 Honda issued the recall, but it's a Panasonic lithium battery problem, not a Honda production problem. It includes only those CRV hybrids manufactured between October 6, 2022 and January 24, 2023. "It's an awful thing" is over the top.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 that’s their supplier in their their car it’s a Honda problem. It’s like saying their airbag recall isn’t their problem or the 2 million civic recall for steering is their supplier. It’s in the car.
Just watched this superb, detailed review for the THIRD time which, I suppose, is a signal of just how much I've been enjoying my 2023 Sport Touring (top trim) CRV. As I'd mentioned earlier, the only errors in the review: the seats ARE genuine leather, not "fake" leather (right on the sticker), and the button on the bottom of the steering wheel is for the heated steering wheel. The heated seat buttons are right on the dash, to the left and right of the HVAC dials. The only flaws in my vehicle: I have more frequent signal dropouts in my Sirius/XM signal than I had in my previous Accords, and I don't think they're all due to signal blockage...haven't mentioned this to the dealer yet, and this may be difficult to replicate. I also get a very infrequent little rattle from somewhere inside the left side of the dash. I don't feel like having to ask the dealer to disassemble the dash to try to find something which may also be hard to replicate. It only happens infrequently, so I've decided it's no big deal. Although I live near Buffalo and actually like winter, I LOVE the urban cycle mileage my hybrid gives me in warmer weather. Yesterday on a flat highway at around 50 mph, I was showing 52-53 mpg for a few miles. That's not typical, but warm weather urban driving gives me an average of 40-44 mpg, beating the EPA numbers. 28-33 on the interstate. Mileage, of course, drops down during winter temps. In mixed driving, I'm averaging 37-38 mpg summer; 31-34 winter. I drive mostly in econ mode, but still have very good off-the-line torque, and more than adequate passing power. I've done a few runs in Sport mode. That mode gives a lovely, gnarly quality to the drivetrain, and a good, sensual sound...but I'm too cheap to see how much it knocks off the mileage. I'm a lower mileage driver, but I've had the car 18 months and it still has a brand-new feel with each drive. The Bose system is excellent...much better than lesser systems in lower trim models and previous Accords...but I waste it too much listening to scary news on the cable channels. :) The latter is why I greatly prefer Sirius/XM to the new Google system in the Touring Accord. I wish Honda would reconsider Sirius/XM for future model series. The overall level of refinement is the best ever among the 7 straight leased high end Accords and now CRV. I have no doubt the Touring Accord is just as quiet, but I have AWD and 500 lb reducing my overall mileage. With all the improvement, and even with the extra sound deadening exclusive to the Sport Touring trim (it IS noticeably quieter than the Sport hybrid), Honda still has some work to do on road noise. It's much better than my previous Accords, but still a little too loud on coarse pavement. Bottom line: So far, it's a wonderful vehicle and I still look forward to every drive, except to the dentist.
Bought this touring hybrid model 3 wks ago and agree with what AMD said about things he didn’t like particularly the hybrid battery placement underneath cargo area thus lack of spare tire and auto parking brake engaging when you shut off vehicle as I wish when you shift into P it engages. Didn’t mind the physical back button on the infotainment screen. So far, very happy with my purchase!
Agreed. They should've put the battery under the rear seat and given us a spare tire. My wife's Honda insight has the battery under the rear seat and has a whole size spare and that's a much smaller car. It was done because it's a global platform and then some markets actually have a plug-in hybrid electric that has a much bigger battery so they had to put it in the back for those models and didn't want to have two different production runs.
this is tru review, I love it. Not just those empty review of exterior; interior; space; 0-100in xx sec, etc; that is everyone is the same, just different face of review.
He gets one thing very wrong. And it's a big thing, affecting many of his impressions about how the car drives. 7:00 "[Honda] actually put two sets of clutches that change the direction of the flow of power through multiple gears and and shafts inside the transmission ... " It is true that this CR-V has two clutches. Each swaps exactly one gear into a mechanical system that utilizes, at any one time, a path with exactly two gears between the Internal Combustion Engine's (ICE's) output and differential. The "multiple gears and and shafts" he talks about is hyperbole, and he misrepresents how they are used later. But this is the only Honda Hybrid with two clutches; all others have just one (and one gear). The second is for towing. 7:10 "... and that's how they achieve their eCVT operation.:" No. "eCVT" refers to the mode of operation when the clutch(es) are disengaged. Regardless of speed, while cruising the ICE usually operates at 2000 rpm and 34 HP. This is where it is most efficient (40.6%). It drives only a generator. The electricity is divided between charging the battery, and powering the traction motor. You can calculate the ratio of ICE rpm to wheel rpm, and it does vary continuously, but it is meaningless. When more power is needed, the ICE revs up to the speed needed to produce that power at optimum efficiency. But the gear ratio is still meaningless. The clutches are used when cruising at highway speeds, to eliminate the two conversions between mechanical and electrical power. The gear ratio is fixed, not continuously variable, when a clutch is closed. The gearing is chosen to keep the ICE near 2000 rpm. The second clutch is for slower highway speeds, or more power while towing. 7:15 ""What is not possible ... [not verified] ... According to the textbook you cannot have the engine and the electric motor drive this car together at the same time." You can. I think AMD was looking for the wrong things, based on the misunderstanding I described above. Because this is well documented in technical books, press releases, and even the owner's manual. When a clutch is closed, the traction motor is still in the drive train. Since that 34 HP I mentioned above is more power than is needed to cruise on a flat highway, it will act as a generator to pull the excess power off and charge the battery. This is actually how regen braking works. But if a little (but not much) more than 34 HP is needed, it can drive the car with the ICE. 8:14: "If true that is one of their disadvantages and that's you know the limitation of this system." It really is a minor point. It is a balancing act between gaining efficiency by letting rpm vary, while at the same time losing efficiency by converting the form of the power twice. There is just a small range of required power where keeping the clutch closed is better. 8:32 "Because we have actual clutches that need to engage occasionally there will be a delay and you'll feel it you accelerate and also there's like a second or two of delay until the clutch engage and you feel that engagement and all of a sudden we're going." There is no such lag or delay. The clutches engage what are essentially overdrive gears. In the situation described, if one was engaged before, it will *_disengage_* to use eCVT mode. The effect can be immediate, but in ECON mode the system will increase power slowly to be more efficient. In SPORT, it is immediate. The clutches engage only once you have established a cruising speed, and you cannot detect when it happens. +++++ Anyway, this car has three "directions of power flow" from the ICE: ICE-->Generator-->(electrical power)-->Traction Motor-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential ICE-->Clutch1-->Overdrive Gear1-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential ICE-->Clutch2-->Overdrive Gear2-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential The traction motor stays connected to the countershaft gear, even when a clutch is closed. It will add and subtract power as needed to keep the ICE at optimum efficiency.
I just found this site. I own a 2023 Honda CRV Hybrid, and can say that this review is extremely good; it is accurate in its descriptions, dives into the technical and mechanical details, other than just the operational ones, better than any other car review site I've read, in an easy to understand way. And, he revealed a few things about the vehicle that even I, as an owner for 11 months, didn't know. Furthermore, this "mechanic" has a very sophisticated understanding of car styling that is rare among those who are experts on what is inside and under a vehicle, rather than its outer shell. In my job as an automotive photographer, I have worked with dozens of OEM car designers and collaborated with them to showcase their designs for many internal corporate and external marketing purposes, so I appreciate that he seems to truly notice design. Bravo for that.
@@kenj.8897 Mine is doing perfectly well so far. I don't use my Honda to climb rocks, run roughshod through the wilderness on horse trails or plough through foot deep snow (I live in North Carolina), so I have the front wheel drive Sport model. Although I have driven only a little over 10,000 miles so far, the only problem that has surfaced has been that a small decorative plastic cover that hid the front of the left drivers side seat rail worked itself loose. That's it. Otherwise, no issues whatsoever, and the car has been a pleasure to drive. I do mostly a suburban mix of slow city and stop lit 45-65 mph boulevard driving, with about 20% of longer and higher speed 70-80 mph trips added to the mix. For all that, I am averaging a real-world 38 miles per gallon fuel use. The ride and handling are quite good and well above average for this class of vehicle, the cabin control quality and the simple but elegant interior design still make me smile, and the solid feeling and related commendably low noise, vibration and harshness are obvious (this despite some reviewers claiming high noise levels which I have not experienced). Overall, I am still very glad I bought this car. I hope that it continues to provide this level of service for the long haul, and if it does, it will have been a gem of a buy.
The controls for the heated seats is in the center console area next to all the other climate controls. The button on the steering wheel is for the heated steering wheel which makes perfect sense.
Have just over 12,000 miles on my 2023 CR-V Hybrid sport and can say it’s the best vehicle (car, truck, SUV) I’ve ever owned. Very comfortable, good performance, great fuel economy. The interactive media is user friendly with no issues pairing other devices. My only complaint is there is no compartment for a garage door opener nor a factory installed dash camera. So, 99% happy 👍
"Perhaps it's not the most exciting car in the world but it's VERY well done..." - This quote defines my new 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid Sport L perfectly. I love it!
@@joanihayward4352 The car has a spray repair kit in place of the spare. I would prefer the spare. I compared buying the RAV 4 (has a spare) to the CRV, and the Honda ride is superior imo, so went for a 2024 CRV Touring model. No regrets. Honda warranty is also very good imo.
I’m fed up. Oil dilution. Carbon build up. Silicone gaskets. Poor quality control. Certification falsification. Decade long S.Korean scam engines. The list goes on and on through all brands and models. I just want a good reliable vehicle. Seems impossible.
You give the best Toyota reviews, now it's Toyota and Honda reviews. I love your reviews, you are a great mechanic and know what you're talking about. Everyone else who does reviews are way, way, behind what you do!
I've put a out 12k on mine. You're going to LOVE it. Though I strongly suggest watching the Power Flow screen and take note of how the hybrid system works. There is a slight difference in its operation in Sport vs. Normal and Econ. Otherwise you most likely won't get the EPA rating. I averaged 35 last winter and averaging 39-40 a tank so far this summer.
@@scott8919 Thanks we picked it up today. I hope those figures are USA we are in the UK here and our Gallons are slightly less than in USA. I can't believe how refined it is. We've just come from a Tiguan as our main family hauler and honestly in most places it puts the German car to shame. Plus here we only have 2 trims and in the advance trim it has all the options you could ever want.
First, the testament: Since break-in (actually, I started taking detailed records four months into ownership) for my 2018 Accord Hybrid (EPA estimates 47/47/47, so it doesn't matter where I drive), I've driven 75,929 miles and used 1582 gallons of gas. That's 48 mpg, in all conditions. One mpg over EPA. So it is possible, even when you factor in adverse conditions. There are two SPORT v NORMAL/ECON differences that affect mpgs. First, SPORT tries to maintain a higher State of Charge in the battery; at least 70%, so that it won't "run out." This has never happened to me, but then I don't accelerate hard while driving up mountains. NORMAL keeps it near 50%, and ECON is closer to 40%. Second, NORMAL and ECON actually delay response to mashing the accelerator, to prevent wasteful acceleration. The car is still quite agile, but I will change to SPORT if I need to merge onto a busy highway. That's because my 2018 has only three drive modes, while your (2024?) has a fourth called "INDIVIDUAL." You can choose which of the other three's strategies to use in several situations. I don't drive that car, so I won't describe them.
@@leefoster8015 Your gallons are larger in the UK. UK gallon is 4.54 l and US gallon is 3.78 l. Quite a difference so hopefully you see larger mpg numbers.
I test drove the Rav4 and the CRV hybrid and went with CRV. After busting my head twice trying to get into the Rav4 and zero probels with all the headroom in the CRV.
That is one of the main issues I have with Toyota/Lexus. The space is so limited and I would have to bend my head just to go into the car. I understand the lower and aerodynamic would increase fuel efficiency of Toyota but the pain and unnecessary headache draws me away. The Venza and even Lexus RX350 have the same problem.
Thank you for reviewing this car. You are such a "car guy." And being a top-notch mechanic with many years of experience, you actually know what you are talking about. And the little things you pick up on are just amazing observations. They don't just come from a mechanic's perspective either. They come from someone who truly loves and appreciates cars.
I love these kinds of reviews. Taking a deep dive at the engineering/build of the vehicle and looking at what maintenance will be like, both long term and short, is part of my research when purchasing a new vehicle.
I just bought the touring trim yesterday, and your video came out today - what a great timing! Your positive feedback of this car is like music to my ears. 😊
Great video! Much more technical than just the styling, amenities and materials covered on other videos. We bought a Sport recently and love it wholeheartedly!
My first new car was the original Honda CRV, it was so basic and bare bones. Ironically, the 2023 model is now a highend looking vehicle with all the technology. I'm impressed. They've really come a long way.
so has the price come a long way, you could take the original CRV off road with this one the AWD will overheat and a message will appear on the dash AWD overheating disabled. Technology has not advanced in that time it just perceived that way, but you will pay high end prices for that .
I’ve had a 2006 CR-V for many years and gave it away to my friend who still drives it. The CR-V is an amazing vehicle, reliable, dependable and provides excellent utility. Though now I own two Lexus vehicles I am still fond of Honda. I’m amazed to see so many 2006 CR-V’s on the road in my city, this is a testament to Honda’s excellence.
I had an Internet offer for the 2024 sport touring at $1,2K off the MSRP but I had some doubt about the reliability issue due to its new mechanical and electronic for this model. Honda dealership are offering good discount these days to complete against the hyper market of Toyota and KIA. Seems like the chips shortage is over for manufactures but not the greedy Toyota dealerships and some KIA dealerships too.
I love how he says something negative about the engineering/build and then follows that up with "And that's okay" LOL Reminds me of a professor I had in College who used to do the same. I failed that semester.
We bought one for my wife. Ordered it in December '22, with a 3mo wait, but got it for MSRP, which is mainly why we picked it over the Tucson or Sportage hybrids. It's a very nice vechicle, after 2k mi, no regrets. Wish it came with all weather mats and a cargo mat, but Weathertech took care of that. BTW, the seat heater buttons are on the dash. The button on the steering wheel is for the steering wheel heater. As always, a great review, very informative, and just validates our feeling of why we bought this vehicle.
@@namvet1968 Very easy to get around in traffic. Driving aids are stellar and I really appreciate the LED headlights. Really all the bells and whistles of a luxury SUV, just less expensive materials. Still feels comfortable and quiet on the road.
I did the same thing but in a completely opposite way. Lol. Original wanted the CRV hybrid but dealers were adding ridiculous markups. Ended up got the Venza as it has a much better infotainment system than the CRV.
@@jul5385 I got my CRV for MSRP with no dealer fees, just tax and registration. At the time this was a good deal so I feel pretty good about the purchase. The CRV seems like a decent car but it doesn't knock ones socks off. I still think the Venza is a bit better appointed and perhaps refined. But, I had a 12 year old Buick I needed to replace and couldn't wait any longer. It was becoming unreliable. So, I bought the Honda because it was available..
I always look forward to his informative reviews and getting a professional opinion. I was in the market for one of these vehicles, having owned a CR-v years ago. I liked the roominess of the C-v and wanted a hybrid. But due to the lack of a spared tire, I went to the Toyota Rav4 hybrid. Finally settling on a 23 Limited Rav4. So, have not driven it much in my two weeks of owning it but found It to be peppy and rides nice.
I also canceled my honda hybrid sport touring deal for not having a spare tire and fog lights. Instead I bought the 2023 toyota rav4 hybrid xle premium. The only problem I am facing with rav4 is that the steering wheel feels vague and too light and I'm not comfortable with it. I would appreciate any suggestions please.
@@cloudysky9395 I have an 18RAV4 hybrid XLE and my steering is "perfect." I think the power steering is done by an electronic mechanism with I believe no adjustments unless maybe they can do a computer adjustment. Just a guess.
Been driving cars without a spare tire all my life. Honda provides a Small air pump and a tire sealant in a small square bag under the seat, I guess Mr Car Care misses it. Another extra option that I do is I keep a tire repair kit so I can patch the tire myself on the road side.
@@zepp3lin I like those donut spares. I took a sidewall puncture. They are dangerous and cannot be repaired with sealant. I am glad I had the donut spare until I could get a new tire. Sealant only works with punctures in the tread area. I will never drive a vehicle without at least a donut spare.
Excellent review! We'll taken possession of our hybrid CRV in 3-4 weeks. Can't wait. We were really impressed during our test drive; it is much better than the 1.5T ICE-based trims. Price is def an issue, but cars that are true comps to this one are hard to get; I wasn't waiting 8-10 months for the Venza. It def has that feel of Honda quality, not flashy, but solidly built.
Well, he gets a few details about the drive system wrong. A minor one, that it seems everybody gets wrong, is at about 6:40. He says that the generator is there to charge the battery. While it does of that, its power drive the motor first, without going thru the battery. Many people who will criticize the system thank that (incorrect) point is the worst. And Toyota does the same, despite what he says at 7:45. At 7:00, the two clutches he talks about work very differently than he says. They aren't for the "eCVT" operation at all - that's the engine->generator->motor part I described above. In that mode, which Honda calls "Hybrid Drive," there is no mechanical connection between the engine and wheels at all. Sure, the ratios of those two rpms will vary continuously, but they are irrelevant. The point is that the engine can run at its most efficient rpm, which is 2000 rpm, at any car speed. But there are additional losses (about 5%) in those conversions, so the engine can operate near them, it doesn't need to do them. That's where the clutches come in. One engages a direct-drive gear (that's literally *_one_* gear, not multiple ones) during highway cruise, like overdrive in a conventional car. The second one, in the CR-V only, is for slower speeds while towing, like "low" in a conventional car. The ironic thing, is that there is no history of failure in the clutch(es) in this ten-year-old system, while there are is in the Toyota hybrid system which most people do not think has a clutch. See ua-cam.com/video/wzCACoJn-wM/v-deo.html . You can have the motor help the engine drive the car in this mode (at 8:05 he says they can't). This is documented on page 15 of the CR-V Owner's manual: "Driven in high-speed, low-load conditions, the gasoline engine provides propulsion to the wheels. The High Voltage battery supplies electricity to the electric motor for added propulsion." This won't happen often, because if very much extra power is needed, the car will change to Hybrid Drive. The way the system works, you will *_never_* have a delay or feel shift when the clutches engage of disengage. They have nothing to do with the simulated shifts.
I know Toyota is the king of hybrids, but I ended up choosing the CR-V since I much prefer the interior over the RAV4 and the redesign is a big improvement. I was also able to negotiate no dealer market adjustment, compared to Toyota who wanted several thousand extra. I would've preferred a spare tire and extra storage and I wish they abandoned all the chrome instead of just in the rear (previous gen had way too much chrome). A 360 camera also would have been nice since many cars are shifting towards that now. But overall I'm enjoying the car, nothing too fancy but still feels refined.
@@HugeGamma Probably depends on the dealership. Go around and ask for quotes and try to negotiate. If they won't budge, let them know that you'll be taking other offers without markups. Literally the only reason these markups exist is because people are willing to pay them. There's no supply chain issue and they intentionally keep inventory low to make it seem like there's low supply and high demand.
@@HugeGammayou can absolutely find a dealership to sell you a car without markups depending on where you live. I would call around and let them know upfront you won’t pay over MSRP. Good luck!
they will not pay in the end ie dealers will not suffer bcuz they have a guaranteed mkt, which is why the franchise system was set up in the first place. Fact is that we're reaching the limits of the current ability to get cars quickly enough to where they're wanted. But the dealers are trying to milk the shortage and will keep trying to trick ppl for a long time of course. But they'll never pay a price UNTIL we demand our state rep's change the system and allow direct sales which should be our right, if we dn't care about dealer support/maintenance /whatnot. @@PS-js9oh
Wow this is a solid review how come I’m just finding this review guy now. This is how you do a review and select a car based on his expertise. Thanks so much for this quality work. : )
When all is said and done, I chose the Honda CRV hybrid. A weak motor AWD on the Toyota is a deal breaker for me, as we have severe winters here in ND. To each their own.
This is the model I bought 3 months ago, except mine is in the optional red. Great review on all points. The really insightful part is how the extra soundproofing and thoughtful interior give a luxury vibe even with ordinary materials.
Had the ‘23 Sport Touring for 3 months prior to getting ‘23 Rav4 XSE. The transition between ICE and battery is more seamless than rav4. In “Sport mode”, the CVT simulates gear shock shifts while engine shift sounds are (cheesily) pumped out of the speakers (seriously, it’s hilarious). For a “Top Trim” however, it was lacking amenities that I have now on my XSE RAV4. However, the interior and cabin noise is near luxury like in the CRV. Just sad they cheaped out on their top trim.
Your technical information about vehicles is beyond exemplary, especially with someone who is not mechanically inclined. You make it so easy to understand thank you while your technical explanations are the metaphorical cake, the icing is your opinions on the style of vehicles often times people from mechanical backgrounds don’t even discuss the stylistic characteristics of vehicles which a lot of people look at and I really appreciate you giving your opinion with them. Thank you again for your evenhanded and wonderful reviews of vehicles on the inside and out.
Yes. And the compartment with the air compressor is where I also keep a little tire plugging kit (fits on top of the little funnel). Not many people know that the supplied air compressor has two modes: one for fill with sealant and one for air only. This way, if I get a flat that's pluggable I'll just plug it and fill with air only. Saving the hassle of ruining a whole tire with the sealant.
What a miss with the area behind the hybrid battery, that could have been a really useful area. Add to that the approximate cubic foot of unused space on the driver's side in front of the bumper which could have been molded into the trunk's unused cavern behind the hybrid battery.
The end of 2024 now, and this review is still very current. In Canada, Toyota Hybrids appear to be made of unobtainium, because the waiting lists are over 18 months. I got tired of waiting, picked up a 2025 CR-V Hybrid Touring and am delighted. This review is spot on. I'm coming from a 2013 Acura RDX that has been wonderful, and this one is so similar except with a lot more tech but admittedly less throttle response. Thanks for the review.
He knew it was the heated steering wheel button, he accidentally said "seats." What he was saying was that the heated steering wheel button could've been off to the side. Heated seats require two buttons, one for each seat, somewhere in the middle, accessible to the passenger. He knew it wasn't heated seats.
Thanks for a very refreshing and honest review. I've always been a Honda guy but I always admired Toyota from a distance. After owning 3 Honda Civics for 700,000 kms over an 18 year period with literally no breakdowns or expense repairs at all, just basic maintenance stuff. In fact my last Civic with 270,000 kms that I traded in 2009 still had the original brake pads, only new tires and oil changes (that's it). In 2018 I bought a new Honda Insight which is a hybrid. I just loved it, ran smooth & quiet with incredible gas mileage (sometimes got up to 75 Imperial mpg) but I realized with our brutal long winters where I live (with tons of snow) that I really needed an suv and the Rav4 hybrid fit the bill perfectly. So in August 2020 I bought my 2020 Rav4 XSE hybrid. I just absolutely love it and it has a spare tire & can tow a small trailer which was a huge bonus for me over the Honda. I also average around 60 Imperial mpg during the summer months which is incredible for such a big vehicle but I do drive in eco mode all the time which is fine by me. Bottom line is you can't go wrong with either a Honda or Toyota hybrid vehicle! 😊🥰👌🚗🚐
only oil changes and tires for 270000km in your civic？ How about transmission fluid, brake fluid, spark plugs, timing belt, air filter? I'm just curious cause I always do maintenance as the manufacture recommend. And I need to replace my brake pads every 50000km due to my drive style.😂
You are lying about 270,000kilometers on not needing brake pads… probably bought the car with pads replaced. I owned hybrid and the brakes pads go around 60k. How does a regular car go to 170k miles without the brakes needing to be changed 🧢
I get it. I bought my 2018 Honda civic brand new and I’m at 97550 miles and I’ve only flushed all the fluids once and just kept up with oil changes every 6k miles and put a new set of tires on around 65k miles. Still have original brake pads 😂
These are AMAZING video reviews. Can you please make a playlist with just your "Should you Buy..." videos to make it easier to watch these all and have them easily accessible? Keep up the amazing work!
Very interesting review from a mechanic's viewpoint and raises very useful maintenance comparisons, but some aspects of the drivetrain design need a bit of clarification. Since 2020, this hybrid drivetrain is the only one Honda have offered in the U.K. and Europe for all models except for the Civic type R, and there may be differences with the U.S. version. I own two of these Honda hybrids, the latest one a very sporty Civic, but have been driving this hybrid system for over 2 years now, so have a lot of experience of them from behind the wheel. He likes the Toyota design and it has really good points, but I haven't driven one so cannot comment on its performance. One way to look at it is Toyota took a combustion engine car and added electric motors to improve efficiency, Honda built an electric car and added a highly efficient petrol engine to generate electricity. These engines use the Atkinson 4 stroke cycle which is considerably more fuel efficient than the standard Otto type, but have much lower torque so cannot pull the car in Atkinson mode. However they can run a generator and the electric motor can assist the engine with extra pulling power when needed. The key difference, as he rightly says, is the Honda can disconnect the engine from the wheels, but says he doesn't know if the Honda engine can drive the wheels directly. At below highway speeds, the Honda operates as a purely electric car with the engine only charging the battery which means the engine normally only runs at its optimum fuel efficient speed and will stop and start to keep the battery charge within a certain range, but he also mentions two clutches, a device he seems not to like. The first clutch is a safety device that will only open and disconnect the drivetrain from the wheels if there is an unforeseen emergency such a wheel lock-up. The second will close only when cruising at high speed (>about 60 m.p.h.) and connect the engine directly to the wheels in parallel with the electric motor as this is the point the engine is already running at maximum fuel efficiency, but charge will also still be going to the battery. This clutch will open again if the battery fills up and the car will continue on electric power only until the battery is down to about 30% and then close again if still cruising. The essential point of the design is maximum fuel efficiency and performance with no gearbox. As a final small aside, the heater button on the steering wheel is not for the driver's heated seat, that is on the main air-con control panel, it is for the heated steering wheel.
I'm not sure how this bit of disinformation, about hybrids in general, got to be so prevalent. But I see it everywhere. It may look like a minor point, but it raises some significant criticisms of hybrids that are completely baseless. "At below highway speeds, the Honda operates as a purely electric car with the engine only charging the battery..." An EV that uses an ICE+generator only to charge the battery is called Range Extender, or BEV Rex. It is not a hybrid. In the Honda iMMD hybrids, the ICE+generator send power to a Power Control Unit (PCU). It send most to the motor, not the battery. But it adjusts it first. That can mean adding some power from the battery, or sending excess power to the battery. The difference is that a BEV Rex has to divide the battery into the portion that is being charged, and the portion that is driving the motor. This compromises the level of performance (see reviews of the BMW i3). But there are some other points I want to correct: "... which means the engine normally only runs at its optimum fuel efficient speed and will stop and start to keep the battery charge within a certain range." More accurately, it runs at its optimum *_power_* for fuel efficiency. A conventional gas car has to use all of the power it generates as it is generated. The "optimum speed" is found by moving along a constant-power curve in the efficiency map. But a hybrid can adjust power as well. It will over-produce with the ICE during cruise, increasing efficiency by far more than optimizing speed can. The 3rd gen Prius, for example, might need 13 HP to cruise on the highway. Its optimum rpm, at that level, is about 1100 rpm (and I'm not sure they run it that low), using 225 grams of fuel per kWh produced. But that can be reduced to below 215 at 28 HP and 2000 rpm. This, not regen braking, is how they keep the battery charged (any EV uses more energy to return to speed, than it can recover thru regen braking). The previous generations of the Accord and CR-V drop it to 208 grams at 34 HP and 2000 rpm. "... but he also mentions two clutches, a device he seems not to like. The first clutch is a safety device that will only open and disconnect the drivetrain from the wheels if there is an unforeseen emergency such a wheel lock-up. The second will close only when cruising at high speed (>about 60 m.p.h.) ..." He also mentioned "multiple gears and and shafts" in a disparaging manner. The truth is that the entire transaxle in a Honda is mechanically simpler than just one (some have two) planetary gearset in a Toyota. I'm guessing you got "60 mph" from the Weber state video, since that is the only place I've seen it, and it is wrong; check Prof. Kelly's corrections. It can lock up as low as 40 mph, but usually around 45 mph. It is optimum at 54 mph, where the ICE is at 2000 rpm. But it seems you also missed the update for the 2023 CR-V, which is what the Car Care Nut was referring to. It has two lock-up clutches; the additional one is for added torque while towing. All hybrids, including Toyotas, have the safety clutch you describe. It's called a torque damper. But the Car Care Nut is quite wrong about "multiple gears and shafts" for this mode. In addition to a motor gear and generator gear there is, literally, one clutch and one gear for each lock-up;. That's one set in all pre-2023 models, and two in the 2023 CR-V.
@@jeffjo8732 Thanks for your comment and corrections - I did know the generator powers the motor and battery & should have said it more clearly and I bow to your better understanding of the internal combustion engine. As a relative newbie to UA-cam, I didn't know if I could reference other channels and thought about doing that rather than trying to describe it, but here goes. This is a great explanation of how the efficiency of the system is achieved ua-cam.com/video/6glpZTRT6qE/v-deo.html True the 60 m.p.h. comment came from Weber although I was having some doubts about it and thought it was sometimes occurring at lower speeds, who am I to question a professor? There is a fancy graphic on the car's display that shows power flow, but it's not entirely clear whether the system is in hybrid or engine mode - (I would have liked a simpler traffic like display) and there is very rarely any physical sensation of it changing power mode. My comment about his not liking clutches also came from another review he did comparing this car to the Toyota RAV4 where he comments with some vigour on the disadvantages of the use of clutches whilst ignoring the advantages of not having a gearbox. My main aim was to try and say, as you have, that the Honda system has much less hardware than other systems, is beautifully simple in concept and whilst my attempt is flawed I am glad it has generated your response.
@@trevorsmith9684 Yes, I have that link bookmarked, too. A good companion to Weber State is ua-cam.com/video/fmMb45PPrmg/v-deo.html . The whiteboard seen has an accurate drawing of the entire system. Then, there is also a set of three, one is at ua-cam.com/video/vJFNcmXxNJE/v-deo.html , that show how the system shifts modes in real life. The other two are in links in its comments. The Power Flow Monitor (what you called fancy graphics) does make it entirely clear which mode you are in, but the Owner's manual doesn't show it well. There is a gear symbol that appears at the intersection of the flows when the clutch engages.
@@jeffjo8732 Thanks again, like the real time one. I think I am now going to put this to bed, go out and enjoy driving my Civic e-hev, would thoroughly recommend it. (Do also have an S2000 for an occasional extra kick so the Civic is my carbon offsetting car).
I appreciate your expert mechanical review. We recently purchased a 2024 CR-V Hybrid AWD Sport L to replace our 2006 CR-V. That old car was a great car but after 18 years it was time to upgrade. Man things have certainly changed! Your review helped this old guy understand more of the technical side of this great car. As a retired engineer I really enjoyed your walk around and underneath the car. I would like to invite your attention to a tiny review comment you made about the seats being fake leather at about 30:14. The seats in the Sport L are "Leather-Trimmed Seats". Also the steering wheel and shift knob are "Leather Wrapped". I have not verified whether or not the 2024 trim level is different than the 2023 car you reviewed. I have subscribed to your channel and watched several other of your videos. I enjoyed those as well. Please continue making them!
Hands down the absolute best non-driving review of the 2023 CRV. The only little shortcoming is not mentioning (and showing) what happens and how to deal with it if one gets a flat tire. Thank you!
CALL ROAD SIDE ASSISTANCE... its included in the price of the CAR... When was the last time you had a flat and then ask yourself, could that have been avoided... maybe tires too old? stuff like NO SPARE... really in the 18 cars I have had so far in my life... FLATS... not even 1.screw in one tire so leaving screw in taking to dealer and getting replaced under... TIRE and RIM protection package... RIMS are too expensive to not have this added.
I've gotten nails in my tires probably about 5 times in the last few years... Lots of construction where I live :(. Its been nice to have a full size spare on my vehicles.
@@MiCoopRS I find a hilarious level of irony in you arguing no one needs a spare tire because you have never had a flat but in the same paragraph arguing tire and rim protection is a necessity because rims are too expensive to not get the insurance.
I've seen people w/ pets wait for your or more for roadside assist in our hot Florida sun- a better option is get a matching Honda/Toyota spare tire/rim from parts yard These suv' plenty size to store a real tire in if needed
First time on this channel and I REALLY LIKE the way he reviews. I’m disappointed that there are no Subarus reviewed. My wish list includes the CR-V, HR-V, Subaru CrossTrek & Forrester, and Hyundai Tucson.
Very nice job on this review AMD. I appreciate your opinion on all the various aspects of the 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid. I agree it is interesting how some of the similar suspension components are not made of the same materials from front to rear. Front end of the car likely has a greater percent of body weight and steel is cheaper than aluminum. Aluminum oil pan is interesting as it would help keep oil cool but like you said it would be terrible to strip the oil drain plug. I do like the dual piston front brake calipers as hybrids are heavier and when the traction battery reaches full state of charge the regenerative braking suddenly stops even if the car is still moving when that happens. That is one annoying thing about the RAV4 hybrid that I have noticed. Regen braking is really great in the RAV4 hybrid until the traction battery reaches full charge state and then it can feel like the car is being pushed forward because the brakes are not as responsive as regen braking. If I were making a decision between the RAV4 and the CR-V based mainly on the interior then Honda would win easily. It seems Honda places priority on passenger room while Toyota tries to balance passenger room with cargo space. Now if the rear seats are folded down I think the Honda would have more cargo room minus the space below the rear deck. Great point to show Honda doesn't include a spare tire in this trim level. Ultimately it is the consumer's decision whether the vehicle is better or best but you covered everything very well. I think touring should mean comfort but when equipped with low profile tires it diminishes the ride comfort. Shame that Honda's touring trim was not available in tires that are actually comfortable to ride on.
Nice review. A few corrections, the heated seat button is not in the middle of the steering wheel. That button is for the steering wheel only. Also, according to all documentation Honda provides, there is a parallel mode where the gas engine and electric motor work in parallel to power the car. Additionally, the shifting sound is mostly artificial, not the clutch engaging.
Thank you. I noticed the heated seat issue but was thrown when he mentioned the motors didn’t work simultaneously. I drive a hybrid Honda and they often work simultaneously.
I appreciate your vehicle reviews. As a consumer it is great to have your technical point of view since most reviewers focus solely on features. As an early generation CR-V owner, I was anxiously awaiting this model to see if I might pull the trigger on the redesigned Hybrid but I ultimately passed. Although it has a lot of positives, it has grown too big and while I think their hybrid system has some advantages over Toyota's, especially considering cable-gate, I also feel like they need to figure out a better alternative to their battery storage. It felt like a shoe-horned afterthought in the previous generation and I was disappointed to see it carry over to this one. I would love to see a technical review of the 2023 Corolla Cross Hybrid since it addressed cable-gate and is a bit smaller than the current Rav4 & CR-V.
I just bought a 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring. The 2.0 L engine was a big factor. The one thing that I dislike is the big size. I looked the HRV, but it is too small, and it does not have the Bose audio system like the CRV. I took delivery in May and the car has only 2,000K miles on it now because I find myself driving a 2011 Honda CR-V EX-L with 180K miles because of the size. The Toyota Cross Hybrid is a better size but I could not find a dealer with one when I was looking for a car. A top trim Cross is less expensive than the top trim CRV. Take your time and test drive both before making a decision. Note: the two vehicles have different rides and the Cross it very "trucky".
I was ready to trade in my 2016 CRV but decided not to because the 2023 CRV increased size. To me, it is like a same horse with a bigger cart. I am looking for more power than size.
You do a great job of explaining (teaching) complicated cars systems and how they differ from the other complicated car systems. Good luck in the future.
Great review and loved the CRV re-redesign but ended up with the Toyota Rav4 Woodland hybrid instead. I actually owned both Honda and Toyota at the same time for about 15 years now and the Honda has cost me more for me to maintain then the Toyota.
I agree, I had a 2006 Honda Civic. I had to replace the driver side sun shade about 5 times, the driver side power window motor, the cruise control button, and the driver door lock actuator. All these items happened prior to 90,000 miles. That’s why I drive a Toyota now, but I am considering a Ridgeline.
About same here, but we had issues with the RAV4s, especially with the transmissions, which were very very expensive to repair. Both were made by Toyota, not Aisin. Also lost three windows actuators. CRVs were mostly little details except for an a/c compressor. Still in the family we only get Honda or Toyota. Which one is... down to personal taste. I personally like Hondas more.
@@disco.lemonade Well you cannot really go wrong with a Honda, now if you told me you were going with the recall king Ford or even GM then I would have to disagree with you.
She shines in the city once you know how to use regen breaking effectively I average between 55-60 MPG on the highway not so much since regen is seldom used about 40mpg but still pretty good. If you do mainly highway driving the non-hybrid model is fine also
Hey bro I'm looking into getting that too this year. I was just wondering how your car is running a year later. Can you please update me with the miles and if you had any issues with it. thank you.
My favorite place to come for real in depth vehicle reviews down to the functional parts and design including history of the manufacturers ongoing improvement’s in certain areas and pain points
Long time viewer here. Love your insights towards other car brands. Can you speak a little about the hybrid battery cooling system? You are a big advocate of clean fan filters in Toyota hybrid batteries. Is there such a filter in this new generation Honda hybrids?
💯 I would also love to to hear AMD's thoughts & comments about Honda's battery longevity & if it has a cooling fan & filter similar to Toyota's set up. When Toyota realized the battery needed a cooling fan & filter the battery life greatly increased.
I have placed an order for the RAV4 18m ago. By now the new CRV comes out and the RAV4 price increased in Australia. I end up cancelling the RAV4 and bought the 2024 Honda CR-V e:HEV RS today. The look and the price have won me.
Would love to know if you had to pick between the Rav-4, CR-V and Tucson which Hybrid would you get based on all aspects of engine, repairs, and car make and model? You compare the Rav-4 a lot to this CR-V pointing out each has some advantages and disadvantages would love a mechanics take on which one they would buy over the other, that or a video comparing the two with your preferred model at the end?
Probably not, if the comment had more like then maybe, it’s not at the top of the list, and honestly I’m probably buying a CRV even if he likes the Rav 4 more, I feel like the interior and styling of the Rav 4 and Toyota cars is cheaper then what Honda offers, the only advantage to the Rav is the better gas mileage, if that’s all I cared about it would be an easy decision but the Honda is better to drive and better feel and fit for what I need, but it’s purely my opinion
@@natek6148I prefer rav4 hybrid approach because they dont use a driveshaft to drive the rear wheels. Is cheaper because is an old design. Wait for the redesigned model for the disappointment pricing scheme.
First time watching one of your reviews, and it's very well-done. It would be great, however, if you included operating and maintenance cost expectations over time. Specifically, is the hybrid more costly to maintain then its non-hybrid counterpart? If so, how much so? 5%? 10% 25%?
Man I Love Your Reviews. Thank you so much for doing them. Toyotas and Hondas like usual are built to last but you dont get any bells and whistles. My problem is, My wife loves the bells and whistles. We have gone with Murano for her two times now. The ac went out after 100k miles on her first one and we are getting close to that mark now on the second one. So I'm already looking for what to get her next. Your videos are helping me greatly on that decision.
You make a lot of great points as you usually do in your videos and your experience is readily apparent. This is one of the best reasons why people enjoy your reviews (myself included). Because you speak from a place of "I've seen, worked on, dealt with, and noticed it". However, in regards to the various AWD systems, Toyota's is inherently flawed as there is no physical connection between the front and rear. Great for efficiency, but It's an e-AWD system and full power can never be sent to the rear wheels. There are more instances where the physical connection AWD will outperform that of the e-AWD. Ford, Hyundai/Kia, Honda, and Audi/Porsche have the right idea
AMD, Honda needs to match Toyota's real world Hybrid mpg and Toyota needs to match Honda's spacious interiors.The CR-V's big back seat puts the RAV4 to shame .🤨
its only off by a little. who cares. a few 1-5mpg dont really do much. its just a few extra miles. it all depends on the driver as well and real life conditions.
Also Honda has been leaving out some features in the top trims that other mainstream brands include. Perhaps because of Acura, but most mainstream brands have a luxury brand under their umbrellas.
The very last new vehicle that I ever bought was a 1997 all-wheel drive CR-V... it was the second CR-V delivered to my town. It was a nice compact utilitarian vehicle for me, and I liked the little picnic table it came with. For about 3 years I drove it all over the place including NYC, and I would have kept driving it had it not been for a job change that required a pick-up truck. The newer CR-V including this Hybrid are a far cry from the original, but big overweight vehicles is just the direction all manufactures are going right now... that's a shame.
As someone with a first generation 2001 CRV I agree completely. The new ones are Pilot sized, more complicated and seem to lack the character of the old ones. Just FYI- you probably had a 1997 CRV, not 1995 because that was the first model year for the CRV. I remember this well because I had just bought a different Honda in 1996 and when I saw the CRV turn up in 1997 I wished I had waited!
Your 90s CRV was just a basic appliance with no practicality and features, and also lower safety standards. Because we need to carry more people comfortably and the fact that we have more cargo than before, cars should utilize the space efficiently and cars need to be bigger and not the other way around
@@techocrazy That's your opinion... my opinion is that my 90s CRV utilized and maximized available space much better than newer vehicles... it was just about perfect. Today's vehicles and passengers are overweight and bloated, but they do have a lot of electronic whistles and bells that distract the person behind the wheel from driving safely. Today's vehicles are dumbing down drivers, and that is not a good thing.
I think the HRV (first generation) was a return to form of that smaller crossover/SUV form factor. I have a 2000 Rav4 myself and it's very nice as a utilitarian vehicle. Only the gas milage kinda sucks.
I really like how you explained things, they were clear and simple to understand. You also made a balanced comment that tied up everything. I also like your priestly blessing in the end.
He’s like the Detective Columbo of the auto world! So unassuming yet absolutely nothing gets past him! Scary. I’m afraid to even test drive this CR-V now although he does attempt to be positive.
A Honda 1.5L turbo engine would scare me and I'm pretty fearless.....and Honda has it in most of their vehicles it seems. I love the straight lines on the side of the CRV
I personally just don’t like the idea of a turbo on an engine. It’s just something else that’s really expensive to fail, and they will, or could “potentially” cause other engine damage. That’s always in the back of my mind. As a mechanic of 20 years, I’ve seen things like that. It’s not a super common problem thing but I don’t want to flip the bill if it does. Then again, the same thing could be said about transmission or other high priced electric parts on the car. 🤷🏻♂️
a) The Hybrid CR-V does not have a turbo. b) My wife drives a 2018 Civic Sport Touring with that 1.5T (since new, 160 000km) . The keys to satisfaction seem to be regular maintenance, including oil changes a bit more often than the maintenance minder asks for (say... every 8-9 000km instead of 12-13)
@@gillesthibault429 I know the Hybird CR-V doesn't have the turbo.....that would be my choice if I would pick a CR-V.. Even though it seems trite, because Honda doesn't include a spare tire, I'd walk away from the Honda dealer.....before I bought one.....instead of walking for help if I was stuck on the highway. That would be my vote against no spare tire..
Honda has not released this model here in my country yet. Thank you for the way you dissected the plus and minuses of this model. Not only informative but excellent.
Are you out of your mind?! This review does not including even 5 seconds of actual driving. Ridiculous. That is like a restaurant review by somebody who never tasted the restaurants food. He also fails to disclose the significant recent issues with Honda CVT transmissions.
I know you’re a Toyota technician but like how you go through Honda’s Hybrid technology! I happen to own a RAV4 hybrid so I love seeing hybrid videos like this!!
I canceled the 2023 honda crv hybrid sport touring and bought the 2023 toyota rav4 hybrid xle premium. Mainly because even the top crv trim doesn't have a spare tire and fog lights and these features are lifesavers for me. My chief problem with the rav4 is that the steering feels too light and vague and I'm uncomfortable to drive especially on the highway because it goes out of control very easily. How do you feel about your rav4. I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thx.
@@cloudysky9395 Only thing I don’t like about my RAV4 is that when I’m coming to a stop and it switches from motor generator braking to hydraulic braking there isn’t a smooth transition and sometimes I wonder if it’s just mine.
Should you buy a CRV at or below sticker or pay 5000 over sticker for a Rav 4 and wait 6 months. Easy choice to me. I was able to get a 2023 accord hybrid under sticker and choose my color.
This guy is my current favorite reviewer, does a deep mechanical dive but makes it understandable for normies
He's genuinely a nice guy with a Midwest attitude.
Same.
May God Bless This Fella
As an engineer, I LOVE this reviewers’ car reviews. He tells me so much more than most reviewers do re: car specs.
Same. I’m not even interested in buying any of these cars but I can’t help but watch. He’s just enjoyable to watch and listen to, and LEARN from, and it’s not every day such a talented and effective communicator comes along.
This guy and Savagegeese...are some of the best.
@@BigBear-- Personally, I also like Scotty Kilmer because I'm also cheap and I don't like to pay for knick-knacks that add cost to car repairs. I like keeping my cars for a long time so I don't have car payments. I'm currently driving a 2009. I haven't had car payments since 2012, LOL.
Yeah, these cars are reliable to say 150k miles, what happens after that? Scotty focuses on longevity.
What I don't save on gas by not driving a hybrid, I more than save by not having car payments.
@@FM-gv7sbCool Story Bro🥱
@@FM-gv7sb 150K miles for the average driver means 10-12 years of ownership. When we say 150K reliable miles, usually means nothing needs to be done other than general maintenance. It doesn't mean the car instantly dies at 150K, it just means at that point it might need some part replacement, or repair. Which on these, after 10 years will normally be pretty cheap to do. I don't see timing chains/water pumps/oil pumps/fuel pumps/spark plugs/coils/alternators/shocks/bushings/etc. As major issues to get done after 150K miles, to keep the car going another 50k-100k-150K miles.
Anyone can rattle off numbers and count cup holders. But you get to the stuff that matters and what viewers would not otherwise know. Well done!
Been following you for over a year. Factory Honda Tech from 1976 till 1985 when I opened my own Honda repair business until I retired in 2006. You have the best channel I have seen. It helps me keep up on info and informed on car purchases. Thank you sir.
I've now had my 2023 Sport Touring CRV since April, and came back to watch your review again. I've watched SO many reviews of this vehicle, and I still enjoy yours the most. Your only error(s): the seats are genuine leather, not leatherette, though they are not as pliable as in my previous leased high end Accords. And the button on the steering wheel is not for the heated seats, it's for the heated wheel (I always thought that was a superfluous add-on, but after handling wet, cold gates at the end of my driveway, it is a fast-warming delight!). Now that we're into cold weather season, my mileage has fallen off, especially on the highway, mostly 26-28 mpg...less than my previous 2 liter/10 speed Accord Touring. But the urban cycle eventually reaches 38-42 if I drive a long enough distance. Pure EV at the start has disappeared in the cold. Overall acceleration remains excellent off the line. The Bose system is the best ever in a Honda, standard only in Touring Accords, Civics, and CRVs. Thankfully, I still have satellite radio, no longer available in the Accord. Miss the HUD. Overall, I still look forward to every drive I take in my CRV. I had 7 high end Accords leased prior to this, and the Sport Touring CRV remains the most refined Honda I've had, with remarkably little body roll for an SUV. I live in Buffalo, but still not chance to try my Snow mode as of December 4th. :) It's slower than my 2020 Touring Accord, but it's not SLOW. Storage capacity has already come in handy twice, taking my bike to a repair shop. Seat height is PERFECT for my aging knees, unlike entrance and egress in the Accord.
just got recalled for firesZ It’s an awful thing
@@v12kingV10 Honda issued the recall, but it's a Panasonic lithium battery problem, not a Honda production problem. It includes only those CRV hybrids manufactured between October 6, 2022 and January 24, 2023. "It's an awful thing" is over the top.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 that’s their supplier in their their car it’s a Honda problem. It’s like saying their airbag recall isn’t their problem or the 2 million civic recall for steering is their supplier.
It’s in the car.
Just watched this superb, detailed review for the THIRD time which, I suppose, is a signal of just how much I've been enjoying my 2023 Sport Touring (top trim) CRV. As I'd mentioned earlier, the only errors in the review: the seats ARE genuine leather, not "fake" leather (right on the sticker), and the button on the bottom of the steering wheel is for the heated steering wheel. The heated seat buttons are right on the dash, to the left and right of the HVAC dials. The only flaws in my vehicle: I have more frequent signal dropouts in my Sirius/XM signal than I had in my previous Accords, and I don't think they're all due to signal blockage...haven't mentioned this to the dealer yet, and this may be difficult to replicate. I also get a very infrequent little rattle from somewhere inside the left side of the dash. I don't feel like having to ask the dealer to disassemble the dash to try to find something which may also be hard to replicate. It only happens infrequently, so I've decided it's no big deal. Although I live near Buffalo and actually like winter, I LOVE the urban cycle mileage my hybrid gives me in warmer weather. Yesterday on a flat highway at around 50 mph, I was showing 52-53 mpg for a few miles. That's not typical, but warm weather urban driving gives me an average of 40-44 mpg, beating the EPA numbers. 28-33 on the interstate. Mileage, of course, drops down during winter temps. In mixed driving, I'm averaging 37-38 mpg summer; 31-34 winter. I drive mostly in econ mode, but still have very good off-the-line torque, and more than adequate passing power. I've done a few runs in Sport mode. That mode gives a lovely, gnarly quality to the drivetrain, and a good, sensual sound...but I'm too cheap to see how much it knocks off the mileage. I'm a lower mileage driver, but I've had the car 18 months and it still has a brand-new feel with each drive. The Bose system is excellent...much better than lesser systems in lower trim models and previous Accords...but I waste it too much listening to scary news on the cable channels. :) The latter is why I greatly prefer Sirius/XM to the new Google system in the Touring Accord. I wish Honda would reconsider Sirius/XM for future model series. The overall level of refinement is the best ever among the 7 straight leased high end Accords and now CRV. I have no doubt the Touring Accord is just as quiet, but I have AWD and 500 lb reducing my overall mileage. With all the improvement, and even with the extra sound deadening exclusive to the Sport Touring trim (it IS noticeably quieter than the Sport hybrid), Honda still has some work to do on road noise. It's much better than my previous Accords, but still a little too loud on coarse pavement. Bottom line: So far, it's a wonderful vehicle and I still look forward to every drive, except to the dentist.
@@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 that’s sad something so sterile excites. Enjoy
Bought this touring hybrid model 3 wks ago and agree with what AMD said about things he didn’t like particularly the hybrid battery placement underneath cargo area thus lack of spare tire and auto parking brake engaging when you shut off vehicle as I wish when you shift into P it engages. Didn’t mind the physical back button on the infotainment screen. So far, very happy with my purchase!
Agreed. They should've put the battery under the rear seat and given us a spare tire. My wife's Honda insight has the battery under the rear seat and has a whole size spare and that's a much smaller car. It was done because it's a global platform and then some markets actually have a plug-in hybrid electric that has a much bigger battery so they had to put it in the back for those models and didn't want to have two different production runs.
this is tru review, I love it. Not just those empty review of exterior; interior; space; 0-100in xx sec, etc; that is everyone is the same, just different face of review.
He gets one thing very wrong. And it's a big thing, affecting many of his impressions about how the car drives.
7:00 "[Honda] actually put two sets of clutches that change the direction of the flow of power through multiple gears and and shafts inside the transmission ... "
It is true that this CR-V has two clutches. Each swaps exactly one gear into a mechanical system that utilizes, at any one time, a path with exactly two gears between the Internal Combustion Engine's (ICE's) output and differential. The "multiple gears and and shafts" he talks about is hyperbole, and he misrepresents how they are used later.
But this is the only Honda Hybrid with two clutches; all others have just one (and one gear). The second is for towing.
7:10 "... and that's how they achieve their eCVT operation.:"
No. "eCVT" refers to the mode of operation when the clutch(es) are disengaged.
Regardless of speed, while cruising the ICE usually operates at 2000 rpm and 34 HP. This is where it is most efficient (40.6%). It drives only a generator. The electricity is divided between charging the battery, and powering the traction motor. You can calculate the ratio of ICE rpm to wheel rpm, and it does vary continuously, but it is meaningless.
When more power is needed, the ICE revs up to the speed needed to produce that power at optimum efficiency. But the gear ratio is still meaningless.
The clutches are used when cruising at highway speeds, to eliminate the two conversions between mechanical and electrical power. The gear ratio is fixed, not continuously variable, when a clutch is closed. The gearing is chosen to keep the ICE near 2000 rpm. The second clutch is for slower highway speeds, or more power while towing.
7:15 ""What is not possible ... [not verified] ... According to the textbook you cannot have the engine and the electric motor drive this car together at the same time."
You can. I think AMD was looking for the wrong things, based on the misunderstanding I described above. Because this is well documented in technical books, press releases, and even the owner's manual. When a clutch is closed, the traction motor is still in the drive train. Since that 34 HP I mentioned above is more power than is needed to cruise on a flat highway, it will act as a generator to pull the excess power off and charge the battery. This is actually how regen braking works. But if a little (but not much) more than 34 HP is needed, it can drive the car with the ICE.
8:14: "If true that is one of their disadvantages and that's you know the limitation of this system."
It really is a minor point. It is a balancing act between gaining efficiency by letting rpm vary, while at the same time losing efficiency by converting the form of the power twice. There is just a small range of required power where keeping the clutch closed is better.
8:32 "Because we have actual clutches that need to engage occasionally there will be a delay and you'll feel it you accelerate and also there's like a second or two of delay until the clutch engage and you feel that engagement and all of a sudden we're going."
There is no such lag or delay. The clutches engage what are essentially overdrive gears. In the situation described, if one was engaged before, it will *_disengage_* to use eCVT mode. The effect can be immediate, but in ECON mode the system will increase power slowly to be more efficient. In SPORT, it is immediate.
The clutches engage only once you have established a cruising speed, and you cannot detect when it happens.
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Anyway, this car has three "directions of power flow" from the ICE:
ICE-->Generator-->(electrical power)-->Traction Motor-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential
ICE-->Clutch1-->Overdrive Gear1-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential
ICE-->Clutch2-->Overdrive Gear2-->Countershaft Gear-->Differential
The traction motor stays connected to the countershaft gear, even when a clutch is closed. It will add and subtract power as needed to keep the ICE at optimum efficiency.
I just found this site. I own a 2023 Honda CRV Hybrid, and can say that this review is extremely good; it is accurate in its descriptions, dives into the technical and mechanical details, other than just the operational ones, better than any other car review site I've read, in an easy to understand way. And, he revealed a few things about the vehicle that even I, as an owner for 11 months, didn't know. Furthermore, this "mechanic" has a very sophisticated understanding of car styling that is rare among those who are experts on what is inside and under a vehicle, rather than its outer shell. In my job as an automotive photographer, I have worked with dozens of OEM car designers and collaborated with them to showcase their designs for many internal corporate and external marketing purposes, so I appreciate that he seems to truly notice design. Bravo for that.
Nice write up . I bought a 24 Hybrid CRV , how is yours doing ?
@@kenj.8897 Mine is doing perfectly well so far. I don't use my Honda to climb rocks, run roughshod through the wilderness on horse trails or plough through foot deep snow (I live in North Carolina), so I have the front wheel drive Sport model. Although I have driven only a little over 10,000 miles so far, the only problem that has surfaced has been that a small decorative plastic cover that hid the front of the left drivers side seat rail worked itself loose. That's it. Otherwise, no issues whatsoever, and the car has been a pleasure to drive. I do mostly a suburban mix of slow city and stop lit 45-65 mph boulevard driving, with about 20% of longer and higher speed 70-80 mph trips added to the mix. For all that, I am averaging a real-world 38 miles per gallon fuel use. The ride and handling are quite good and well above average for this class of vehicle, the cabin control quality and the simple but elegant interior design still make me smile, and the solid feeling and related commendably low noise, vibration and harshness are obvious (this despite some reviewers claiming high noise levels which I have not experienced). Overall, I am still very glad I bought this car. I hope that it continues to provide this level of service for the long haul, and if it does, it will have been a gem of a buy.
OMG, there are many , many empty reviews but this one, it's so good, thank you!
The controls for the heated seats is in the center console area next to all the other climate controls. The button on the steering wheel is for the heated steering wheel which makes perfect sense.
I noticed that. Small error all things considered. But the actual placement is logical.
Have just over 12,000 miles on my 2023 CR-V Hybrid sport and can say it’s the best vehicle (car, truck, SUV) I’ve ever owned. Very comfortable, good performance, great fuel economy. The interactive media is user friendly with no issues pairing other devices. My only complaint is there is no compartment for a garage door opener nor a factory installed dash camera. So, 99% happy 👍
Mpg?
@ 38.4 mpg
@@LanceRomanceF4E what do you do? If you get a flat tire? There's no spare I see.
@ It comes with a foam sealant that will inflate your tire. Im not too concerned since ive had one flat in 30 yrs of city and suburb driving.
@ you love the the car other wise ?
I've seen some of your videos before, but the car reviews...man you are a legend!
"Perhaps it's not the most exciting car in the world but it's VERY well done..." - This quote defines my new 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid Sport L perfectly. I love it!
No spare tire didn't detour you?
@@joanihayward4352 The car has a spray repair kit in place of the spare. I would prefer the spare. I compared buying the RAV 4 (has a spare) to the CRV, and the Honda ride is superior imo, so went for a 2024 CRV Touring model. No regrets. Honda warranty is also very good imo.
I’m fed up. Oil dilution. Carbon build up. Silicone gaskets. Poor quality control. Certification falsification. Decade long S.Korean scam engines. The list goes on and on through all brands and models. I just want a good reliable vehicle. Seems impossible.
30:20 Real leather on contact surfaces, the L is for leather. Auto parking brake select in settings.
Just bought a 2023 crv hybrid because of your review🤙🏽
You give the best Toyota reviews, now it's Toyota and Honda reviews. I love your reviews, you are a great mechanic and know what you're talking about. Everyone else who does reviews are way, way, behind what you do!
We ordered one today. I cannot believe I didn't consult TCCN first. I am glad that it was given a seal of approval!
I've put a out 12k on mine. You're going to LOVE it. Though I strongly suggest watching the Power Flow screen and take note of how the hybrid system works. There is a slight difference in its operation in Sport vs. Normal and Econ. Otherwise you most likely won't get the EPA rating. I averaged 35 last winter and averaging 39-40 a tank so far this summer.
@@scott8919 Thanks we picked it up today. I hope those figures are USA we are in the UK here and our Gallons are slightly less than in USA. I can't believe how refined it is. We've just come from a Tiguan as our main family hauler and honestly in most places it puts the German car to shame. Plus here we only have 2 trims and in the advance trim it has all the options you could ever want.
First, the testament: Since break-in (actually, I started taking detailed records four months into ownership) for my 2018 Accord Hybrid (EPA estimates 47/47/47, so it doesn't matter where I drive), I've driven 75,929 miles and used 1582 gallons of gas. That's 48 mpg, in all conditions. One mpg over EPA. So it is possible, even when you factor in adverse conditions.
There are two SPORT v NORMAL/ECON differences that affect mpgs. First, SPORT tries to maintain a higher State of Charge in the battery; at least 70%, so that it won't "run out." This has never happened to me, but then I don't accelerate hard while driving up mountains. NORMAL keeps it near 50%, and ECON is closer to 40%.
Second, NORMAL and ECON actually delay response to mashing the accelerator, to prevent wasteful acceleration. The car is still quite agile, but I will change to SPORT if I need to merge onto a busy highway. That's because my 2018 has only three drive modes, while your (2024?) has a fourth called "INDIVIDUAL." You can choose which of the other three's strategies to use in several situations. I don't drive that car, so I won't describe them.
@@leefoster8015 Your gallons are larger in the UK. UK gallon is 4.54 l and US gallon is 3.78 l. Quite a difference so hopefully you see larger mpg numbers.
May I call this clip Video of the Year? One of the greatest reviews I have seen in 2023. No exaggeration. Keep up the good work. God bless you. 🌹🌹
I test drove the Rav4 and the CRV hybrid and went with CRV. After busting my head twice trying to get into the Rav4 and zero probels with all the headroom in the CRV.
That is one of the main issues I have with Toyota/Lexus. The space is so limited and I would have to bend my head just to go into the car. I understand the lower and aerodynamic would increase fuel efficiency of Toyota but the pain and unnecessary headache draws me away. The Venza and even Lexus RX350 have the same problem.
I'm 6'1" will it work for me ?
We rented a RAV4 and had similar problems with entry and exit. We ended up buying a 2025 CRV.
@@27Fan4Ever is there more room getting in ?
@@Holyheart1I have yet to hit my head getting in and out of the CRV. Different windshield angle I am guessing.
Thank you for reviewing this car. You are such a "car guy." And being a top-notch mechanic with many years of experience, you actually know what you are talking about. And the little things you pick up on are just amazing observations. They don't just come from a mechanic's perspective either. They come from someone who truly loves and appreciates cars.
What a lovely post
I love these kinds of reviews. Taking a deep dive at the engineering/build of the vehicle and looking at what maintenance will be like, both long term and short, is part of my research when purchasing a new vehicle.
Great comment . I watched 3 other videos on the crv. This is exactly the information I want.
I just bought the touring trim yesterday, and your video came out today - what a great timing! Your positive feedback of this car is like music to my ears. 😊
Congrats, test drove one recently-very nice drive & handling!
How much did it come out to including tax?
@@Peter_Gazer Mine came out to around 43. It just depends on where you live.
on gas station your music will change.
23 touring,8k on the clock,31mpg average,75%highway.
forever,good luck to you.
I pick mine up tomorrow and agree!
Great video! Much more technical than just the styling, amenities and materials covered on other videos. We bought a Sport recently and love it wholeheartedly!
Esta a otro nivel ❤ Honda CRV es otra fragancia.
Mind sharing the OTD price? how much markup did you pay? thanks!
@@YaohuiZeng 36k
We bought our sport in April and we love it too!
How many miles you get on a full tank?
Very thorough review! Sharp looking CRV. I like that dark blue color too.
My first new car was the original Honda CRV, it was so basic and bare bones. Ironically, the 2023 model is now a highend looking vehicle with all the technology.
I'm impressed. They've
really come a long way.
but they no longer have the picnic table ☹️
yep. Cars have come sooooo far in twenty/twentyfive yrs. Not in same universe really.
so has the price come a long way, you could take the original CRV off road with this one the AWD will overheat and a message will appear on the dash AWD overheating disabled. Technology has not advanced in that time it just perceived that way, but you will pay high end prices for that .
Strange. I take my ‘24 AWD CRV on Pipeline ROWs and it does GREAT. Never “overheats”
There are automobiles made for off roading. The Honda CR-V is NOT one of them. You do NOT put eardrops in the eyes. @@Azureecosse
Love your reviews - the combination of a technical review and an interior review is outstanding!
I’ve had a 2006 CR-V for many years and gave it away to my friend who still drives it. The CR-V is an amazing vehicle, reliable, dependable and provides excellent utility. Though now I own two Lexus vehicles I am still fond of Honda. I’m amazed to see so many 2006 CR-V’s on the road in my city, this is a testament to Honda’s excellence.
@miro…..same here from Honda’s to now Lexus. Why not have the best?
Another plus is this vehicle is not impossible to get near MSRP unlike RAV4.
Got my sport touring $600 under MSRP three weeks ago (Kentucky)
I had an Internet offer for the 2024 sport touring at $1,2K off the MSRP but I had some doubt about the reliability issue due to its new mechanical and electronic for this model. Honda dealership are offering good discount these days to complete against the hyper market of Toyota and KIA. Seems like the chips shortage is over for manufactures but not the greedy Toyota dealerships and some KIA dealerships too.
I love how he says something negative about the engineering/build and then follows that up with "And that's okay" LOL Reminds me of a professor I had in College who used to do the same. I failed that semester.
Just watching this video, listening to his soothing voice and the small references , call backs etc lol was like a therapy session
Thank you for reviewing Honda's!! We really appreciate to hear your opinion on these
We bought one for my wife. Ordered it in December '22, with a 3mo wait, but got it for MSRP, which is mainly why we picked it over the Tucson or Sportage hybrids. It's a very nice vechicle, after 2k mi, no regrets. Wish it came with all weather mats and a cargo mat, but Weathertech took care of that.
BTW, the seat heater buttons are on the dash. The button on the steering wheel is for the steering wheel heater.
As always, a great review, very informative, and just validates our feeling of why we bought this vehicle.
Good info. Is your CRV easy to park and maneuver in traffic?
@@namvet1968 Very easy to get around in traffic. Driving aids are stellar and I really appreciate the LED headlights. Really all the bells and whistles of a luxury SUV, just less expensive materials. Still feels comfortable and quiet on the road.
I bought a CRV hybrid 5 months ago and so far like it very much.
I originally wanted a Venza but after waiting for a year after "ordering" I gave up.
Venza is too small for me. I’m thinking of buying the new Tacoma years down the line
What kind of mileage are you getting? We have a 2017 CRV non hybrid and get 28-33 mpg.
@@sunrisetacticalgear2676 Almost exclusively around town 42-45mpg.
I did the same thing but in a completely opposite way. Lol. Original wanted the CRV hybrid but dealers were adding ridiculous markups. Ended up got the Venza as it has a much better infotainment system than the CRV.
@@jul5385 I got my CRV for MSRP with no dealer fees, just tax and registration. At the time this was a good deal so I feel pretty good about the purchase. The CRV seems like a decent car but it doesn't knock ones socks off. I still think the Venza is a bit better appointed and perhaps refined. But, I had a 12 year old Buick I needed to replace and couldn't wait any longer. It was becoming unreliable. So, I bought the Honda because it was available..
I always look forward to his informative reviews and getting a professional opinion. I was in the market for one of these vehicles, having owned a CR-v years ago. I liked the roominess of the C-v and wanted a hybrid. But due to the lack of a spared tire, I went to the Toyota Rav4 hybrid. Finally settling on a 23 Limited Rav4. So, have not driven it much in my two weeks of owning it but found It to be peppy and rides nice.
Totally agree. Lack of a spare tire is pretty much a deal breaker for me. Still a bit unsure but I much prefer having a spare.
I also canceled my honda hybrid sport touring deal for not having a spare tire and fog lights. Instead I bought the 2023 toyota rav4 hybrid xle premium. The only problem I am facing with rav4 is that the steering wheel feels vague and too light and I'm not comfortable with it. I would appreciate any suggestions please.
@@cloudysky9395 I have an 18RAV4 hybrid XLE and my steering is "perfect." I think the power steering is done by an electronic mechanism with I believe no adjustments unless maybe they can do a computer adjustment. Just a guess.
Been driving cars without a spare tire all my life. Honda provides a Small air pump and a tire sealant in a small square bag under the seat, I guess Mr Car Care misses it.
Another extra option that I do is I keep a tire repair kit so I can patch the tire myself on the road side.
@@zepp3lin I like those donut spares. I took a sidewall puncture. They are dangerous and cannot be repaired with sealant. I am glad I had the donut spare until I could get a new tire. Sealant only works with punctures in the tread area. I will never drive a vehicle without at least a donut spare.
Excellent review! We'll taken possession of our hybrid CRV in 3-4 weeks. Can't wait. We were really impressed during our test drive; it is much better than the 1.5T ICE-based trims. Price is def an issue, but cars that are true comps to this one are hard to get; I wasn't waiting 8-10 months for the Venza. It def has that feel of Honda quality, not flashy, but solidly built.
Don't get a flat.
AAA membership is worth the price, bud.
The breadth and depth of information provided in these reviews is unequaled by any other video reviewer. Thank you!
Well, he gets a few details about the drive system wrong. A minor one, that it seems everybody gets wrong, is at about 6:40. He says that the generator is there to charge the battery. While it does of that, its power drive the motor first, without going thru the battery. Many people who will criticize the system thank that (incorrect) point is the worst. And Toyota does the same, despite what he says at 7:45.
At 7:00, the two clutches he talks about work very differently than he says. They aren't for the "eCVT" operation at all - that's the engine->generator->motor part I described above. In that mode, which Honda calls "Hybrid Drive," there is no mechanical connection between the engine and wheels at all. Sure, the ratios of those two rpms will vary continuously, but they are irrelevant. The point is that the engine can run at its most efficient rpm, which is 2000 rpm, at any car speed.
But there are additional losses (about 5%) in those conversions, so the engine can operate near them, it doesn't need to do them. That's where the clutches come in. One engages a direct-drive gear (that's literally *_one_* gear, not multiple ones) during highway cruise, like overdrive in a conventional car. The second one, in the CR-V only, is for slower speeds while towing, like "low" in a conventional car. The ironic thing, is that there is no history of failure in the clutch(es) in this ten-year-old system, while there are is in the Toyota hybrid system which most people do not think has a clutch. See ua-cam.com/video/wzCACoJn-wM/v-deo.html .
You can have the motor help the engine drive the car in this mode (at 8:05 he says they can't). This is documented on page 15 of the CR-V Owner's manual: "Driven in high-speed, low-load conditions, the gasoline engine provides propulsion to the wheels. The High Voltage battery supplies electricity to the electric motor for added propulsion." This won't happen often, because if very much extra power is needed, the car will change to Hybrid Drive.
The way the system works, you will *_never_* have a delay or feel shift when the clutches engage of disengage. They have nothing to do with the simulated shifts.
I know Toyota is the king of hybrids, but I ended up choosing the CR-V since I much prefer the interior over the RAV4 and the redesign is a big improvement. I was also able to negotiate no dealer market adjustment, compared to Toyota who wanted several thousand extra. I would've preferred a spare tire and extra storage and I wish they abandoned all the chrome instead of just in the rear (previous gen had way too much chrome). A 360 camera also would have been nice since many cars are shifting towards that now.
But overall I'm enjoying the car, nothing too fancy but still feels refined.
Is Toyota still doing markups on the RAV4 hybrid..I'm deciding between the XLE and this
@@HugeGamma Probably depends on the dealership. Go around and ask for quotes and try to negotiate. If they won't budge, let them know that you'll be taking other offers without markups. Literally the only reason these markups exist is because people are willing to pay them. There's no supply chain issue and they intentionally keep inventory low to make it seem like there's low supply and high demand.
@@HugeGammayou can absolutely find a dealership to sell you a car without markups depending on where you live. I would call around and let them know upfront you won’t pay over MSRP. Good luck!
they will not pay in the end ie dealers will not suffer bcuz they have a guaranteed mkt, which is why the franchise system was set up in the first place. Fact is that we're reaching the limits of the current ability to get cars quickly enough to where they're wanted. But the dealers are trying to milk the shortage and will keep trying to trick ppl for a long time of course. But they'll never pay a price UNTIL we demand our state rep's change the system and allow direct sales which should be our right, if we dn't care about dealer support/maintenance /whatnot. @@PS-js9oh
certainly still are supply chain issues with many cars and car mkt generally is heavily constrained. @@onobonono
Wow this is a solid review how come I’m just finding this review guy now. This is how you do a review and select a car based on his expertise. Thanks so much for this quality work. : )
When all is said and done, I chose the Honda CRV hybrid. A weak motor AWD on the Toyota is a deal breaker for me, as we have severe winters here in ND. To each their own.
Good choice. Toyotas awd is very weak
Interesting. I spend time in Michigan.
Love that youre reviewing hondas. I was a toyota honda fan now geared more onto hondas
These technical assessment's are so informative and unrivalled. Fantastic job on this one AMD. Great TCCN video production. Thank you from London UK.
Just bought a 2025 crv hybrid touring !!! Gets about 35 mpg hwy, love the car so far
This is the model I bought 3 months ago, except mine is in the optional red. Great review on all points. The really insightful part is how the extra soundproofing and thoughtful interior give a luxury vibe even with ordinary materials.
how do you like the drive train? Can you tell it is a hybrid?
You can tell it’s a hybrid, but not easily. The clutches give you a couple real feeling shifts. Plus the audio system tricks your brain with revs.
Had the ‘23 Sport Touring for 3 months prior to getting ‘23 Rav4 XSE. The transition between ICE and battery is more seamless than rav4. In “Sport mode”, the CVT simulates gear shock shifts while engine shift sounds are (cheesily) pumped out of the speakers (seriously, it’s hilarious). For a “Top Trim” however, it was lacking amenities that I have now on my XSE RAV4. However, the interior and cabin noise is near luxury like in the CRV. Just sad they cheaped out on their top trim.
This is the best car review UA-cam channel, of all time. Thank you sir for sharing your skills/knowledge to the world.
Your technical information about vehicles is beyond exemplary, especially with someone who is not mechanically inclined. You make it so easy to understand thank you while your technical explanations are the metaphorical cake, the icing is your opinions on the style of vehicles often times people from mechanical backgrounds don’t even discuss the stylistic characteristics of vehicles which a lot of people look at and I really appreciate you giving your opinion with them. Thank you again for your evenhanded and wonderful reviews of vehicles on the inside and out.
This is a very great review! He is my favorite reviewer of cars. A great engineer who knows what he is talking about!
I like the idea of the little side cubby storage in the back. Looks like a good place to put small items so they don't slide around.
thats where i put the first aid kit on mine
Yes. And the compartment with the air compressor is where I also keep a little tire plugging kit (fits on top of the little funnel). Not many people know that the supplied air compressor has two modes: one for fill with sealant and one for air only. This way, if I get a flat that's pluggable I'll just plug it and fill with air only. Saving the hassle of ruining a whole tire with the sealant.
What a miss with the area behind the hybrid battery, that could have been a really useful area. Add to that the approximate cubic foot of unused space on the driver's side in front of the bumper which could have been molded into the trunk's unused cavern behind the hybrid battery.
Great job on this thorough review. I'm picking up my 2024 crv hybrid sport tomorrow!
Wow!!! That was what I think one of the best car reviews, I've ever seen!!! Keep up the good work. Peter from Poland.
The end of 2024 now, and this review is still very current. In Canada, Toyota Hybrids appear to be made of unobtainium, because the waiting lists are over 18 months. I got tired of waiting, picked up a 2025 CR-V Hybrid Touring and am delighted. This review is spot on. I'm coming from a 2013 Acura RDX that has been wonderful, and this one is so similar except with a lot more tech but admittedly less throttle response. Thanks for the review.
The "heat" button in the middle of the steering wheel is for the heated steering wheel, not the heated seats.
Yes. Very disappointing that him of all people thought that.
He knew it was the heated steering wheel button, he accidentally said "seats." What he was saying was that the heated steering wheel button could've been off to the side. Heated seats require two buttons, one for each seat, somewhere in the middle, accessible to the passenger. He knew it wasn't heated seats.
@@badtoro 😂 serious. Where’s your review bro 😎 very disappointed you don’t have a review 😢 You’d never make a mistake
@@weakland07lol
it’s for the new fire recall just issues
Thanks for a very refreshing and honest review. I've always been a Honda guy but I always admired Toyota from a distance. After owning 3 Honda Civics for 700,000 kms over an 18 year period with literally no breakdowns or expense repairs at all, just basic maintenance stuff. In fact my last Civic with 270,000 kms that I traded in 2009 still had the original brake pads, only new tires and oil changes (that's it). In 2018 I bought a new Honda Insight which is a hybrid. I just loved it, ran smooth & quiet with incredible gas mileage (sometimes got up to 75 Imperial mpg) but I realized with our brutal long winters where I live (with tons of snow) that I really needed an suv and the Rav4 hybrid fit the bill perfectly. So in August 2020 I bought my 2020 Rav4 XSE hybrid. I just absolutely love it and it has a spare tire & can tow a small trailer which was a huge bonus for me over the Honda. I also average around 60 Imperial mpg during the summer months which is incredible for such a big vehicle but I do drive in eco mode all the time which is fine by me. Bottom line is you can't go wrong with either a Honda or Toyota hybrid vehicle! 😊🥰👌🚗🚐
only oil changes and tires for 270000km in your civic？ How about transmission fluid, brake fluid, spark plugs, timing belt, air filter? I'm just curious cause I always do maintenance as the manufacture recommend. And I need to replace my brake pads every 50000km due to my drive style.😂
A change they made with the 2023 Honda is it can now tow a small trailer. Not as big as the Toyota one though.
@@jamisonz3365 Obvious BSer here, it's not possible to go 270 whatever kms without replacing brake pads (several times).
You are lying about 270,000kilometers on not needing brake pads… probably bought the car with pads replaced. I owned hybrid and the brakes pads go around 60k. How does a regular car go to 170k miles without the brakes needing to be changed 🧢
I get it. I bought my 2018 Honda civic brand new and I’m at 97550 miles and I’ve only flushed all the fluids once and just kept up with oil changes every 6k miles and put a new set of tires on around 65k miles. Still have original brake pads 😂
I am so close to pulling the trigger on getting my wife a CRV Hybrid.
Great video. Thank you!
just got recalled for fires
@@v12kingV10Buyer beware!
This helped me decide to get the regular crv and no the hybrid, not worth the extra money unless you only drive city streets. Thanks
These are AMAZING video reviews. Can you please make a playlist with just your "Should you Buy..." videos to make it easier to watch these all and have them easily accessible? Keep up the amazing work!
Very interesting review from a mechanic's viewpoint and raises very useful maintenance comparisons, but some aspects of the drivetrain design need a bit of clarification. Since 2020, this hybrid drivetrain is the only one Honda have offered in the U.K. and Europe for all models except for the Civic type R, and there may be differences with the U.S. version. I own two of these Honda hybrids, the latest one a very sporty Civic, but have been driving this hybrid system for over 2 years now, so have a lot of experience of them from behind the wheel. He likes the Toyota design and it has really good points, but I haven't driven one so cannot comment on its performance.
One way to look at it is Toyota took a combustion engine car and added electric motors to improve efficiency, Honda built an electric car and added a highly efficient petrol engine to generate electricity. These engines use the Atkinson 4 stroke cycle which is considerably more fuel efficient than the standard Otto type, but have much lower torque so cannot pull the car in Atkinson mode. However they can run a generator and the electric motor can assist the engine with extra pulling power when needed. The key difference, as he rightly says, is the Honda can disconnect the engine from the wheels, but says he doesn't know if the Honda engine can drive the wheels directly.
At below highway speeds, the Honda operates as a purely electric car with the engine only charging the battery which means the engine normally only runs at its optimum fuel efficient speed and will stop and start to keep the battery charge within a certain range, but he also mentions two clutches, a device he seems not to like. The first clutch is a safety device that will only open and disconnect the drivetrain from the wheels if there is an unforeseen emergency such a wheel lock-up. The second will close only when cruising at high speed (>about 60 m.p.h.) and connect the engine directly to the wheels in parallel with the electric motor as this is the point the engine is already running at maximum fuel efficiency, but charge will also still be going to the battery. This clutch will open again if the battery fills up and the car will continue on electric power only until the battery is down to about 30% and then close again if still cruising. The essential point of the design is maximum fuel efficiency and performance with no gearbox.
As a final small aside, the heater button on the steering wheel is not for the driver's heated seat, that is on the main air-con control panel, it is for the heated steering wheel.
I'm not sure how this bit of disinformation, about hybrids in general, got to be so prevalent. But I see it everywhere. It may look like a minor point, but it raises some significant criticisms of hybrids that are completely baseless.
"At below highway speeds, the Honda operates as a purely electric car with the engine only charging the battery..."
An EV that uses an ICE+generator only to charge the battery is called Range Extender, or BEV Rex. It is not a hybrid. In the Honda iMMD hybrids, the ICE+generator send power to a Power Control Unit (PCU). It send most to the motor, not the battery. But it adjusts it first. That can mean adding some power from the battery, or sending excess power to the battery. The difference is that a BEV Rex has to divide the battery into the portion that is being charged, and the portion that is driving the motor. This compromises the level of performance (see reviews of the BMW i3).
But there are some other points I want to correct:
"... which means the engine normally only runs at its optimum fuel efficient speed and will stop and start to keep the battery charge within a certain range."
More accurately, it runs at its optimum *_power_* for fuel efficiency. A conventional gas car has to use all of the power it generates as it is generated. The "optimum speed" is found by moving along a constant-power curve in the efficiency map. But a hybrid can adjust power as well. It will over-produce with the ICE during cruise, increasing efficiency by far more than optimizing speed can. The 3rd gen Prius, for example, might need 13 HP to cruise on the highway. Its optimum rpm, at that level, is about 1100 rpm (and I'm not sure they run it that low), using 225 grams of fuel per kWh produced. But that can be reduced to below 215 at 28 HP and 2000 rpm. This, not regen braking, is how they keep the battery charged (any EV uses more energy to return to speed, than it can recover thru regen braking). The previous generations of the Accord and CR-V drop it to 208 grams at 34 HP and 2000 rpm.
"... but he also mentions two clutches, a device he seems not to like. The first clutch is a safety device that will only open and disconnect the drivetrain from the wheels if there is an unforeseen emergency such a wheel lock-up. The second will close only when cruising at high speed (>about 60 m.p.h.) ..."
He also mentioned "multiple gears and and shafts" in a disparaging manner. The truth is that the entire transaxle in a Honda is mechanically simpler than just one (some have two) planetary gearset in a Toyota.
I'm guessing you got "60 mph" from the Weber state video, since that is the only place I've seen it, and it is wrong; check Prof. Kelly's corrections. It can lock up as low as 40 mph, but usually around 45 mph. It is optimum at 54 mph, where the ICE is at 2000 rpm. But it seems you also missed the update for the 2023 CR-V, which is what the Car Care Nut was referring to. It has two lock-up clutches; the additional one is for added torque while towing. All hybrids, including Toyotas, have the safety clutch you describe. It's called a torque damper.
But the Car Care Nut is quite wrong about "multiple gears and shafts" for this mode. In addition to a motor gear and generator gear there is, literally, one clutch and one gear for each lock-up;. That's one set in all pre-2023 models, and two in the 2023 CR-V.
@@jeffjo8732 Thanks for your comment and corrections - I did know the generator powers the motor and battery & should have said it more clearly and I bow to your better understanding of the internal combustion engine.
As a relative newbie to UA-cam, I didn't know if I could reference other channels and thought about doing that rather than trying to describe it, but here goes. This is a great explanation of how the efficiency of the system is achieved ua-cam.com/video/6glpZTRT6qE/v-deo.html
True the 60 m.p.h. comment came from Weber although I was having some doubts about it and thought it was sometimes occurring at lower speeds, who am I to question a professor? There is a fancy graphic on the car's display that shows power flow, but it's not entirely clear whether the system is in hybrid or engine mode - (I would have liked a simpler traffic like display) and there is very rarely any physical sensation of it changing power mode.
My comment about his not liking clutches also came from another review he did comparing this car to the Toyota RAV4 where he comments with some vigour on the disadvantages of the use of clutches whilst ignoring the advantages of not having a gearbox.
My main aim was to try and say, as you have, that the Honda system has much less hardware than other systems, is beautifully simple in concept and whilst my attempt is flawed I am glad it has generated your response.
@@trevorsmith9684 Yes, I have that link bookmarked, too. A good companion to Weber State is ua-cam.com/video/fmMb45PPrmg/v-deo.html . The whiteboard seen has an accurate drawing of the entire system. Then, there is also a set of three, one is at ua-cam.com/video/vJFNcmXxNJE/v-deo.html , that show how the system shifts modes in real life. The other two are in links in its comments.
The Power Flow Monitor (what you called fancy graphics) does make it entirely clear which mode you are in, but the Owner's manual doesn't show it well. There is a gear symbol that appears at the intersection of the flows when the clutch engages.
@@jeffjo8732 Thanks again, like the real time one. I think I am now going to put this to bed, go out and enjoy driving my Civic e-hev, would thoroughly recommend it. (Do also have an S2000 for an occasional extra kick so the Civic is my carbon offsetting car).
Thank you CCN for your unbiased , thorough view. Nobody does it better than you.
I appreciate your expert mechanical review. We recently purchased a 2024 CR-V Hybrid AWD Sport L to replace our 2006 CR-V. That old car was a great car but after 18 years it was time to upgrade. Man things have certainly changed! Your review helped this old guy understand more of the technical side of this great car. As a retired engineer I really enjoyed your walk around and underneath the car. I would like to invite your attention to a tiny review comment you made about the seats being fake leather at about 30:14. The seats in the Sport L are "Leather-Trimmed Seats". Also the steering wheel and shift knob are "Leather Wrapped". I have not verified whether or not the 2024 trim level is different than the 2023 car you reviewed. I have subscribed to your channel and watched several other of your videos. I enjoyed those as well. Please continue making them!
Hands down the absolute best non-driving review of the 2023 CRV. The only little shortcoming is not mentioning (and showing) what happens and how to deal with it if one gets a flat tire. Thank you!
CALL ROAD SIDE ASSISTANCE... its included in the price of the CAR... When was the last time you had a flat and then ask yourself, could that have been avoided... maybe tires too old? stuff like NO SPARE... really in the 18 cars I have had so far in my life... FLATS... not even 1.screw in one tire so leaving screw in taking to dealer and getting replaced under... TIRE and RIM protection package... RIMS are too expensive to not have this added.
Lucky fellow!
I've gotten nails in my tires probably about 5 times in the last few years... Lots of construction where I live :(. Its been nice to have a full size spare on my vehicles.
@@MiCoopRS I find a hilarious level of irony in you arguing no one needs a spare tire because you have never had a flat but in the same paragraph arguing tire and rim protection is a necessity because rims are too expensive to not get the insurance.
I've seen people w/ pets wait for your or more for roadside assist in our hot Florida sun- a better option is get a matching Honda/Toyota spare tire/rim from parts yard
These suv' plenty size to store a real tire in if needed
First time on this channel and I REALLY LIKE the way he reviews. I’m disappointed that there are no Subarus reviewed. My wish list includes the CR-V, HR-V, Subaru CrossTrek & Forrester, and Hyundai Tucson.
This was an outstanding review, very helpful. Thank you. It is great to get such an in depth look at this car from both a mechanic and car enthusiast.
I am not a car person, but I absolutely loved this great review and have subscribed so I can continue to stay informed.
Very nice job on this review AMD. I appreciate your opinion on all the various aspects of the 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid. I agree it is interesting how some of the similar suspension components are not made of the same materials from front to rear. Front end of the car likely has a greater percent of body weight and steel is cheaper than aluminum. Aluminum oil pan is interesting as it would help keep oil cool but like you said it would be terrible to strip the oil drain plug. I do like the dual piston front brake calipers as hybrids are heavier and when the traction battery reaches full state of charge the regenerative braking suddenly stops even if the car is still moving when that happens. That is one annoying thing about the RAV4 hybrid that I have noticed. Regen braking is really great in the RAV4 hybrid until the traction battery reaches full charge state and then it can feel like the car is being pushed forward because the brakes are not as responsive as regen braking.
If I were making a decision between the RAV4 and the CR-V based mainly on the interior then Honda would win easily. It seems Honda places priority on passenger room while Toyota tries to balance passenger room with cargo space. Now if the rear seats are folded down I think the Honda would have more cargo room minus the space below the rear deck. Great point to show Honda doesn't include a spare tire in this trim level. Ultimately it is the consumer's decision whether the vehicle is better or best but you covered everything very well. I think touring should mean comfort but when equipped with low profile tires it diminishes the ride comfort. Shame that Honda's touring trim was not available in tires that are actually comfortable to ride on.
I got the 2023 accord hybrid and i love it
Also a great addon is the Clever Honda thinking - 90 degree doors in the rear. Makes for easy in and out with kids and many other things.
Nice review. A few corrections, the heated seat button is not in the middle of the steering wheel. That button is for the steering wheel only. Also, according to all documentation Honda provides, there is a parallel mode where the gas engine and electric motor work in parallel to power the car. Additionally, the shifting sound is mostly artificial, not the clutch engaging.
Thank you. I noticed the heated seat issue but was thrown when he mentioned the motors didn’t work simultaneously. I drive a hybrid Honda and they often work simultaneously.
Most qualified car reviewer. Other car reviewer dont talk much about engine details.
This is a wonderful review. Useful, practical, and done from your perspective as a mechanic. The most useful review of the CR-V that I’ve seen!
Just bought a 2024 Honda CRV Hybrid AWD Sport L. Hard to get model. Sell fast. Thanks for your detailed straight forward no BS professional review.
I appreciate your vehicle reviews. As a consumer it is great to have your technical point of view since most reviewers focus solely on features.
As an early generation CR-V owner, I was anxiously awaiting this model to see if I might pull the trigger on the redesigned Hybrid but I ultimately passed. Although it has a lot of positives, it has grown too big and while I think their hybrid system has some advantages over Toyota's, especially considering cable-gate, I also feel like they need to figure out a better alternative to their battery storage. It felt like a shoe-horned afterthought in the previous generation and I was disappointed to see it carry over to this one.
I would love to see a technical review of the 2023 Corolla Cross Hybrid since it addressed cable-gate and is a bit smaller than the current Rav4 & CR-V.
I just bought a 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring. The 2.0 L engine was a big factor. The one thing that I dislike is the big size. I looked the HRV, but it is too small, and it does not have the Bose audio system like the CRV. I took delivery in May and the car has only 2,000K miles on it now because I find myself driving a 2011 Honda CR-V EX-L with 180K miles because of the size. The Toyota Cross Hybrid is a better size but I could not find a dealer with one when I was looking for a car. A top trim Cross is less expensive than the top trim CRV. Take your time and test drive both before making a decision. Note: the two vehicles have different rides and the Cross it very "trucky".
I was ready to trade in my 2016 CRV but decided not to because the 2023 CRV increased size. To me, it is like a same horse with a bigger cart. I am looking for more power than size.
You do a great job of explaining (teaching) complicated cars systems and how they differ from the other complicated car systems. Good luck in the future.
Great review and loved the CRV re-redesign but ended up with the Toyota Rav4 Woodland hybrid instead. I actually owned both Honda and Toyota at the same time for about 15 years now and the Honda has cost me more for me to maintain then the Toyota.
I agree, I had a 2006 Honda Civic. I had to replace the driver side sun shade about 5 times, the driver side power window motor, the cruise control button, and the driver door lock actuator. All these items happened prior to 90,000 miles. That’s why I drive a Toyota now, but I am considering a Ridgeline.
well, yeah that's maint. money but overall the two are so close in quality that i'd say it's splitting hairs. @@louislopez55
About same here, but we had issues with the RAV4s, especially with the transmissions, which were very very expensive to repair. Both were made by Toyota, not Aisin. Also lost three windows actuators. CRVs were mostly little details except for an a/c compressor. Still in the family we only get Honda or Toyota. Which one is... down to personal taste. I personally like Hondas more.
@@disco.lemonade Well you cannot really go wrong with a Honda, now if you told me you were going with the recall king Ford or even GM then I would have to disagree with you.
glad you mentioned that cleaning that piano-black grill is a pain in the behind.
too bad you didn't honk that anemic horn they ship with!
I got my Sport Touring Hybrid about a month ago, love it
MPG?
She shines in the city once you know how to use regen breaking effectively I average between 55-60 MPG on the highway not so much since regen is seldom used about 40mpg but still pretty good. If you do mainly highway driving the non-hybrid model is fine also
Hey bro I'm looking into getting that too this year. I was just wondering how your car is running a year later. Can you please update me with the miles and if you had any issues with it. thank you.
My favorite place to come for real in depth vehicle reviews down to the functional parts and design including history of the manufacturers ongoing improvement’s in certain areas and pain points
Long time viewer here. Love your insights towards other car brands. Can you speak a little about the hybrid battery cooling system? You are a big advocate of clean fan filters in Toyota hybrid batteries. Is there such a filter in this new generation Honda hybrids?
💯 I would also love to to hear AMD's thoughts & comments about Honda's battery longevity & if it has a cooling fan & filter similar to Toyota's set up. When Toyota realized the battery needed a cooling fan & filter the battery life greatly increased.
I have placed an order for the RAV4 18m ago. By now the new CRV comes out and the RAV4 price increased in Australia. I end up cancelling the RAV4 and bought the 2024 Honda CR-V e:HEV RS today. The look and the price have won me.
Would love to know if you had to pick between the Rav-4, CR-V and Tucson which Hybrid would you get based on all aspects of engine, repairs, and car make and model?
You compare the Rav-4 a lot to this CR-V pointing out each has some advantages and disadvantages would love a mechanics take on which one they would buy over the other, that or a video comparing the two with your preferred model at the end?
Wonder if he'll answer what we all want to know...
Probably not, if the comment had more like then maybe, it’s not at the top of the list, and honestly I’m probably buying a CRV even if he likes the Rav 4 more, I feel like the interior and styling of the Rav 4 and Toyota cars is cheaper then what Honda offers, the only advantage to the Rav is the better gas mileage, if that’s all I cared about it would be an easy decision but the Honda is better to drive and better feel and fit for what I need, but it’s purely my opinion
Don’t get the Koreans, dual-clutch trans is planned obsolescence
@@natek6148I prefer rav4 hybrid approach because they dont use a driveshaft to drive the rear wheels.
Is cheaper because is an old design. Wait for the redesigned model for the disappointment pricing scheme.
Anther great video. I love your unbiased honesty, considering you are a Toyota guy. 👍🏽
First time watching one of your reviews, and it's very well-done. It would be great, however, if you included operating and maintenance cost expectations over time. Specifically, is the hybrid more costly to maintain then its non-hybrid counterpart? If so, how much so? 5%? 10% 25%?
Man I Love Your Reviews. Thank you so much for doing them.
Toyotas and Hondas like usual are built to last but you dont get any bells and whistles.
My problem is,
My wife loves the bells and whistles.
We have gone with Murano for her two times now. The ac went out after 100k miles on her first one and we are getting close to that mark now on the second one. So I'm already looking for what to get her next. Your videos are helping me greatly on that decision.
I have the sport touring about 1700 miles so far, love it.
What you do for a spare tire?
You make a lot of great points as you usually do in your videos and your experience is readily apparent. This is one of the best reasons why people enjoy your reviews (myself included). Because you speak from a place of "I've seen, worked on, dealt with, and noticed it".
However, in regards to the various AWD systems, Toyota's is inherently flawed as there is no physical connection between the front and rear. Great for efficiency, but It's an e-AWD system and full power can never be sent to the rear wheels. There are more instances where the physical connection AWD will outperform that of the e-AWD. Ford, Hyundai/Kia, Honda, and Audi/Porsche have the right idea
"cars that look angry, look cool"
WOW! You are my #1 car guy from today! I love the details and educational style with all the relevant info to make a sound decision! Thank you!
AMD, Honda needs to match Toyota's real world Hybrid mpg and Toyota needs to match Honda's spacious interiors.The CR-V's big back seat puts the RAV4 to shame .🤨
its only off by a little. who cares. a few 1-5mpg dont really do much. its just a few extra miles. it all depends on the driver as well and real life conditions.
@@Fumbiii16 We've had ours for about 3 weeks. Averaging 33.4 mpg with mostly highway driving. I'm satisfied with that.
@@chrisstokes4245 Most owners get 40+. You must drive it hard.
CR-V puts the RAV4 interior to shame for the last 3 generations
Also Honda has been leaving out some features in the top trims that other mainstream brands include. Perhaps because of Acura, but most mainstream brands have a luxury brand under their umbrellas.
I have the sport touring 2024 already 31,000 miles i love it.
The very last new vehicle that I ever bought was a 1997 all-wheel drive CR-V... it was the second CR-V delivered to my town. It was a nice compact utilitarian vehicle for me, and I liked the little picnic table it came with. For about 3 years I drove it all over the place including NYC, and I would have kept driving it had it not been for a job change that required a pick-up truck. The newer CR-V including this Hybrid are a far cry from the original, but big overweight vehicles is just the direction all manufactures are going right now... that's a shame.
As someone with a first generation 2001 CRV I agree completely. The new ones are Pilot sized, more complicated and seem to lack the character of the old ones. Just FYI- you probably had a 1997 CRV, not 1995 because that was the first model year for the CRV. I remember this well because I had just bought a different Honda in 1996 and when I saw the CRV turn up in 1997 I wished I had waited!
@@1250ships yes it was a '97 - thanks
Your 90s CRV was just a basic appliance with no practicality and features, and also lower safety standards.
Because we need to carry more people comfortably and the fact that we have more cargo than before, cars should utilize the space efficiently and cars need to be bigger and not the other way around
@@techocrazy That's your opinion... my opinion is that my 90s CRV utilized and maximized available space much better than newer vehicles... it was just about perfect. Today's vehicles and passengers are overweight and bloated, but they do have a lot of electronic whistles and bells that distract the person behind the wheel from driving safely. Today's vehicles are dumbing down drivers, and that is not a good thing.
I think the HRV (first generation) was a return to form of that smaller crossover/SUV form factor. I have a 2000 Rav4 myself and it's very nice as a utilitarian vehicle. Only the gas milage kinda sucks.
I really like how you explained things, they were clear and simple to understand. You also made a balanced comment that tied up everything. I also like your priestly blessing in the end.
He’s like the Detective Columbo of the auto world! So unassuming yet absolutely nothing gets past him! Scary. I’m afraid to even test drive this CR-V now although he does attempt to be positive.
Can’t believe I just found this channel.. seriously love these videos
A Honda 1.5L turbo engine would scare me and I'm pretty fearless.....and Honda has it in most of their vehicles it seems. I love the straight lines on the side of the CRV
I personally just don’t like the idea of a turbo on an engine. It’s just something else that’s really expensive to fail, and they will, or could “potentially” cause other engine damage. That’s always in the back of my mind. As a mechanic of 20 years, I’ve seen things like that. It’s not a super common problem thing but I don’t want to flip the bill if it does. Then again, the same thing could be said about transmission or other high priced electric parts on the car. 🤷🏻♂️
a) The Hybrid CR-V does not have a turbo.
b) My wife drives a 2018 Civic Sport Touring with that 1.5T (since new, 160 000km) . The keys to satisfaction seem to be regular maintenance, including oil changes a bit more often than the maintenance minder asks for (say... every 8-9 000km instead of 12-13)
@@gillesthibault429 I know the Hybird CR-V doesn't have the turbo.....that would be my choice if I would pick a CR-V.. Even though it seems trite, because Honda doesn't include a spare tire, I'd walk away from the Honda dealer.....before I bought one.....instead of walking for help if I was stuck on the highway. That would be my vote against no spare tire..
Thanks!
Honda has not released this model here in my country yet. Thank you for the way you dissected the plus and minuses of this model. Not only informative but excellent.
This review is so helpful! I don't know anything about gas cars and for the most part, it was really easy to follow. I learned a lot. Thank you!
Absolutely the best car reviews anywhere.
Are you out of your mind?! This review does not including even 5 seconds of actual driving. Ridiculous. That is like a restaurant review by somebody who never tasted the restaurants food. He also fails to disclose the significant recent issues with Honda CVT transmissions.
Well done. You can explain things because you know what you are talking about. I want to see more of that.
A very in-depth review as always. I appreciate the knowledge and research put into this and all of your reviews.
I know you’re a Toyota technician but like how you go through Honda’s Hybrid technology! I happen to own a RAV4 hybrid so I love seeing hybrid videos like this!!
I canceled the 2023 honda crv hybrid sport touring and bought the 2023 toyota rav4 hybrid xle premium. Mainly because even the top crv trim doesn't have a spare tire and fog lights and these features are lifesavers for me. My chief problem with the rav4 is that the steering feels too light and vague and I'm uncomfortable to drive especially on the highway because it goes out of control very easily. How do you feel about your rav4. I would appreciate any suggestions or comments. Thx.
@@cloudysky9395 Only thing I don’t like about my RAV4 is that when I’m coming to
a stop and it switches from motor generator braking to hydraulic braking there isn’t a smooth transition and sometimes I wonder if it’s just mine.
Should you buy a CRV at or below sticker or pay 5000 over sticker for a Rav 4 and wait 6 months. Easy choice to me. I was able to get a 2023 accord hybrid under sticker and choose my color.
May I ask where you live? What's your MPG?
@namvet1968 I went to Honda Carland in Roswell GA. MPG is very good. High 40s overall. Once you get to that point even 5 mpg makes a small difference.