Testing a CHEAP 4 Season Sleep Mat!
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Join me as I test out a new budget sleep mat on an overnight solo wild camp! It’s been AGES since I took my 3F UL GEAR Lanshan 2 tent out, so I decided to take it along on this one. It’s a 3 season tent and is colder than my Helm 2, so it proved ideal for testing out the new Light Tour 5.8R insulated step mat!
The Light Tour is ASTM rated with an R value of 5.8, so while not exactly the same rating as the popular Therm-A-Rest xTherm mats, it should bd warm enough for pretty much any conditions in the UK. Plus, they’re half the price of the xTherm mats.
Thanks for watching! Ben 🤓
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Light Tour sleep mat 👉 collinsoutdoors.com/products/...
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Lanshan 2 👉 outdoorgearessentials.co.uk/
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Osprey Kestrel 68 👉 amzn.to/416hz5m
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🎬 CHAPTERS
00:00 - Things I’m testing…
00:15 - Osprey Kestrel 68
01:48 - Snack disaster!
02:26 - Lanshan 2 & New Pegs!
05:45 - Light Tour Sleep Mat
07:46 - Full Gear Tour
09:15 - Snack test, updates & kit check
15:16 - Verdict
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Please continue with the gear reviews. Opinions are so helpful in deciding what to buy or equally what not to buy
Will do 🤓👍
Love getting to see all the gear folk take on different trips👍
Love your videos, No! dont stop the gear tours/ reviews, I think they're great, you've pointed me towards some quality budget gear, Thanks!
Cheers Steve, I’ll keep them up just for you 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors Your a good Man my friend! :}
Personally I like seeing all the kit your using, so keep doing it. I'm not a massive fan of macaroni, and can't think of anything worse than having a cheesy cranny 🤣
Well, I'm gonna have to keep doing it now aren't I! 🤣
Ok. I laughed at the "pretty awesome feature" you found in your bag! 😂
Thermarest R6.9 no competitors before and has strong pricing power. If you like it, you will buy it no matter how expensive it is, but not now.
Love the gear reviews the quirkier the better, I like cheaper the better and exmilitary stuff that is more discreet for stealth camping, cammo is great too
Bought one in January and used it 3 times. It is warmer than the cheap product and has no noise. I think this sleeping pad has met my needs. Thermarest NeoAir is too expensive and I can’t afford it.
Just doubling checking your comments ... are you saying you found the Naturehike R5.8 mat to be quiet ? I find my Sea to Summit Etherlight Insulated mat very noisy due to its foil insulation. So looking to replace... please let me know
Just keep doing what you do. Your personality and presentation is why i watch and possibly other people do too. JT from downunder .
I like seeing other people's kit, it sometimes makes me aware of something new that I wouldn't be aware of otherwise.....just like your new sleeping mat, it looks good👍🏻
Then the gear tours will continue 👌
I quite like a gear tour TBH, as long as it's not a long drawn out affair. Keep doing what your doing 👏
Well I’m gonna have to keep doing them now aren’t I! 🤪👍
@@DaleyOutdoors Yup
Yes to continuing the gear tours please, they're some of my favourite bits!
Your channel is a great help, ive only been doing this wild camping and hiking about 3 years and reviews are still helpful even though i think im fully kitted out, plus in my opinion you are more honest in your opinions than some other channels i watch, i like the fact i have now used the word opinion three times,
A four season inner for your Lanshan 2 is definitely a good investment for winter camping …. I saw a 20F temperature rise from the outside when I went out in freezing temperatures …. Made a heck of a difference with very little condensation problems …. Nice video thanks for sharing your equipment testing 👍👍
Was researching Decathlon gear and came upon your comments. I've been enjoying your channel each and every time. Keep them coming. Really appreciate all of your views and reviews.
Thanks Larry! I’ve got a Decathlon haul on the way 👍
Always find your reviews very useful, keep them going.
Thanks,your doing a great service.
Cheers Serge 👍
Lost it at the back opening ”awesome feature”😂. Thanks for a good video!
Always good to see the detail of the gear.
I love these videos full of tips and tricks
I like seeing different kit. keep up the good work.
Cheers, always good to see a new night away - keep with the gear for me, good insight
Thanks, will do!
Liking the dry, ever so slightly tongue in cheek commentary. 😉 almost everyone is a kit geek and likes to see other options and see how people get on using it. I’d keep doing them if I were you. 👍🏻
So I just learnt (from watching you) that I should put all of my foodstuffs in a separate dry bag. Thanks for taking one for the team in order to educate us all 😁. Keep up the product reviews, I find them useful. 👍
You’re welcome 😆
Love a gear tour! Please keep doing them 😊
Cheers Zac, will do!
I enjoy it when you go over your gear!
I really enjoy your reviews so would hope that you keep doing them. I've found that I have a similar budget and expectations for gear as yourself so your previous reviews have been very helpful. Keep up the great work, mate 👍
Cheers Mark, will do! 🤓
As well as getting loads of info on camping and products from your videos. They are packed full of humour and entertainment. Love it!!!!
Glad you like them! 👍
Great video keep up the gear reviews makes it more interesting cheers
The gear reviews are all part of the fun, always good to hear an opinion on what's good or bad 👍
Better keep them in then 👍
I love having a nosey at your gear, keep the reviews and tours coming please 😁 I have that sleeping pad, but I've not been out with it yet. I'm relieved that it seems OK. Another great video chum, thank you 👌🏼
Will do! The mat seems really good so far! Let me know what you think when you've tried it 👍
Always enjoy a gear run through so keep at it. 👍
Will do 👍
Fab video Ben and thanks for sharing 😄
No worries! Cheers Martin 👍
I like the gear Reviews.keep them coming
Thanks, will do! 👍
I like the stoves with the connecting pipe, nice and low to the ground.
Looking forward to testing that mat out. Thinking of doing something a little different but will be interesting none the less 👍
Be good to see what you think to it 👍
Be good to see if you fit on it! 😜
Ooh yes I like to see the other gear, I have that Forclaz down jacket too - the MT100. It's ace.
Long time watcher, first time commenter here.
I haven't finished watching yet, but I had to pause and comment when you said, "De-cheese" your kit. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face. :) I'm now off to watch the rest of your vid'.
Haha Thanks for watching! 😆
Nice work keep it going
I enjoy the kit run-throughs and gear reviews, so keep'em coming as far as I'm concerned.
I love my Big Agnes Rapide SL, so won't be going for the new Light Tour sleep mat, but it looks pretty good.
Cheers Steve, will do 👍
As a novice to wild camping, your gear tours are my ‘go to’ UA-cam channel, keep them up
Thanks, will do!
Great video mate keep it up
And please keep up the kit list before each camp, even if a shortened version!
I like this type of video : )
Nice spot there Ben, decent level pitch too. I like to see the gear you’ve brought along for the trip, even if it is repeated from last time(s). Haha cheese dust everywhere made me chuckle.
😆 Thanks for watching mate 👍
Thanks for the vid 👍
No problem 👍
Great Video mate.. editing on point. Just ordered a Lanshan 2 with the 3 season inner. I've got the 1 at the moment but for that extra space but only a little more weight I think it will be worth it.
and yes keep showing the gear.
Cheers mate, I'm trying to focus more on editing this year... I'll get there 🤣 I agree I think the Lanshan 2 is definitely worth it over the 1.
Just lol'd at #soggyfootgate on Wildbeare's channel, and now lol'ing at #cheesegate here. Love your deadpan delivery. And yes for continued gear reviews
Hehe thanks 👍
Keep the reviews coming, I enjoy them and as you can tell so do others.
Side note, it's a spoon, not a spork. A spork has the fork part on the front 😃
sounds like a good air bed fair price too ,as you say get the best one you can afford and use it all year even summer
Another vote in favour of the gear tour. And those Decathlon down jackets are insanely good for the money.
They are awesome! I love mine 😍
If you want a bag for worst case winter take the in-laws scenario I would recommend an aether85 as I’ve used one for 4 years now. In practice the weight of the bag is offset by the luxury of the ag system. Not one for the gram weenies but in real life then load carrying system outweigh thegrams. I enjoy my lanshan 2 very much too but impressed you take it out this time of year. The breeze thru all that mesh annoys me in the colder months. Thanks for the vid, always interesting to see what you’re looking at. I’ll hold fire on that mat mind😂
Glad to see a Chinese product competing with Thermarest, I trust SGS as I have tested some products to SGS in my company and authoritative
Great vid. Loved the bit where you dropped the bag twice. I’m easily amused… Hmmm so that mat. Maybe one to think about. Never heard of that brand before. I say keep going with the kit yours. People generally like all that. Cheers guv. 🤛🏻
Have a look on AliExpress. NatureHike are selling the same mat under their brand 👍
Great video.
I've just bought the 3.8value mat for £85. Slept on it last week with a 3 session bag and it did a great job.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching Doug 🤓👍
My bag has been an Osprey Volt 60 for almost 10 years. It is super comfortable even with several back surgeries under my belt (literally). Lol
It's a cracking sleep pad! 👍
Sure is! 🙌
keep doing them mate, easy and enjoyable content good, seeing alternative gear options as well that arn't gonna require a mortgage
Cheers mate, will do!
@@DaleyOutdoors I was for example I was thinking about a new pad, got a thermarest Venture I got years ago paint it up with a foil mat in the colder nights but not exactly ideal if your on a slight slope 🤣🤣 that Light Tour Matt could be great so I'll keep watching to see how you get on !
I can recognise a fellow disturbed soul from a mile away - subscribed
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Keep doing the gear reviews......the blue spork is a must have lol
Will do! 🤣
Nice one Ben. That mat looks nice, although I am a staunch XThermer and not tempted to stray just yet. I thought you had given up on the Lamb Shank, good to see you give it another go. Trekking pole tents are the future a tell thee. 👍
Cheers mate 👍 You can’t go wrong with a ‘proper’ xTherm. I’m still 50/50 with the ol’ trekking pole wigwam 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors Give it time mate, they are more roomier, lighter and aesthetically gorgeous 👍🏼
I'm still waiting to for a couple of birds to turn up to camp in a see thru tent like the lame shack 😂😂😂
No harm at all in a quick gear run-down in the vids, always a chance to inspire someone to replace or upgrade something they have but which isn't optimal. Thanks for the vid. Agree that the mat doesn't have as much of a price point differential vs well known brands, so maybe they'll heed your suggestion. All the best.
Cheers Chris, let’s hope they do a decent sale/offer on it 👍
Continue gear show n tell. Also when you say Merino base layer etc , details on make. Cheers
I have the Exped Dura 8 and it never fails to allow me to be toasty warm.
Good to have an unbiased opinion of gear and usually the stuff you review is different to the pensive mainstream gear so keep it up. Hope the rucksack doesn’t smell for ever😂
Hope not! haha. Thanks for watching Michael 👍
I don’t comment as much as I’d like as I watch through my tv , just wanted to say I love what you’re doing. I’d like to see a stealth beach camp as that’s what I’m hoping to do , thanks 🙏👍
Cheers Henry! I am planning a beach camp later in the year. Not easy as I’m about as far away from the sea as you can get in this country 😆
Keep doing the gear tours.
I enjoy seeing what kit people use and what works and importantly what doesn't work.the pad looks decent but with things like that it's how they perform over time but for a decent pad imo you have to pay then you know it's istm and hopefully should work and last.ive got the kestrel 68 solid bag but for me it just wouldn't sit right on my shoulders with all my winter gear so this winter I've switched to the Atmos 65 and it feels way better with the heavier loads also with most osprey packs the size makes a difference a s/m 68 is not 68l I think it's 65 and because I'm just in between sizes I went for the l/XL in the 65 and that's 68l
Great video Ben, I also love seeing the new gear that you try out. In fact i tend to search for new gear reviews. A question though on the Permissive sites that you use, I notice a lot of the You Tubers have these sites available to them. How do you go about identifying the Landowner? and then do you just simply knock on their door and ask permission? I always imagine Farmers and Landowners asking "what's in it for me". I'm wondering if people pay some kind of "rent" to camp on private land?. I know of a local wood to me that would be ideal to camp, but the fact that it's fenced off, suggests its private land. I don't have the first clue how to find who would owns the woods and then how to go about obtaining permission. Thanks, Alan.
It’s all covered here : Wild Camp LEGALLY! How to get PERMISSION
ua-cam.com/video/P1e44dWrWr0/v-deo.html
Gear tours are always good to see. And there will always be somebody watching your vids for the first time, so there's that.
True 👍
This kind of camp seemed to be perfect for a gear tour and review, so keep doing them. I was hoping the sleep mat was going to be a bit more on the budget side TBH. As you said, if they could get it under £100 then it would be more attractive. At £128 it is perhaps too close to big brand sleep mats with long warranties and good reputations for replacing / repairing gear without hassle.
Seems like my search for a budget winter sleep mat will continue!
Yeah hopefully it'll go on sale at some point! Thanks for watching mate 👍
Completely agree with you, still looking for a reasonable budget option. No doubt I’ll soon have to bite the bullet on a €200 Big Agnes or Nemo. Cheers
@@mistymountainrambler61 It seems to be the last thing I'm missing, a proper winter sleep mat. Currently I have to double up two lesser mats for warmth, not ideal but a huge amount cheaper!
Just had the large rectangle delivered (nature hike one) - all in £78. Happy days, really comfy mattress!
Was this from AliExpress? Seems like it's the same mat, just with different branding?
@@TedsonJones yeah mate, if you shop about you can get it for about £70ish still on there!
@@bigkahooney Cheers! Yeh, i can get the Reg Wide for £57 + tax. Bit cheaper than an xtherm 😃
@@TedsonJones depending on how tall you are, I recommend the longer version as they come up short, I'm just over 6ft and the long is just about long enough, despite it being 196cm!
@@bigkahooney Good advice, but I'm 5'9, so think reg should be ok. Have you camped with it yet?
I personally like seeing your gear 😳 ( I was going to say ‘so keep it up’ but I think I’ll stop there)
I have this pad but branded as Naturehike. The problem with it is an interesting one in that it has little support / structure to it. I have a Nemo Tensor as well and if I pump them both up to the most that my Flextail pump will (so that they’re at the same pressure) and then press down on them with my hand, I only have to press down a little on the Nemo before I feel resistance. With this pad, there’s no resistance and my hand will go all the way down to the floor. If you’re a back sleeper, the distribution of weight is enough to prevent that, but anytime I roll I’ll bottom out. I don’t recommend this pad for this reason.
There’s also no way I’d buy it for the price you did. I only gave this a try because of a Christmas special on Aliexpress where it was ~70 pounds.
You won’t get the same pressure that way. You’re only testing the resistance on the valve vs the strength of the pump. I found the valve quite strong and the Flextail gave up while there was still plenty of room left for more air.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the heads up. Will have to test it again with your advice.
Lighttour is an OEM for naturehike, understand? The manufacturer is Lighttour, due to the low price behavior of some sellers, they sold out the inventory and it ended
It’s all about the gear
Anything that can leak and spill goes into its own dedicated freezer food bag. They don't weigh much.
Gear tours are great.
Weights in g would be great.
Lambshank tasty lol - captions came up with Lambshank :P
😂 I can’t hang stuff from my rucksack either, it would drive me mad knocking and rattling while hiking.
Brilliant Ben, yeh keep the gear thing but just a quick mention to the usual suspects then a bit more on any new kit, I vacuum pack my pot snacks now, bags are tougher and take up less space, I just make them up in a collapsible cup, mat looks good but think your right about price point, also sounded very flimsy ? Anyway really enjoyed it mate, even had the wife laughing and she's just out of hospital after having 2 sections of her left lung removed, keep em coming mate 👍👍
Cheers Mick, yeah I try to keep the ‘gear tours’ short as mostly it’s the same stuff. The mat seems good, just needs a few more tests to build confidence in it I reckon 😆 Hope the mrs is recovering well mate 👍
Chose this pad over a Nemo Tensor, which is the only inflatable pad officially distributed in my part of the world. The distributor here doesn’t offer pad replacements on warranty so I ultimately decided the premium price wasn’t worth it. If I lived in the US or Europe tho I would choose Exped/Nemo/S2S
Keep up the gear reviews.
Maybe you should consider using a food bag that's big enough for all of your food lol
Great idea! 😆
Yesss💪, finally,a test of the pad. Do you find the dimensions of it inflated to be accurate? I have read some reviews on AliExpress where people stated that the pad was shorter than listed(it's the same pad,just under Naturehikes name).
Also how does it compare in terms of comfort to your Exped? Does it come even close?
Personally I'm considering either the Lighttour or the Nemo Tensor (am saving up for the Tensor,there is so much hype about it), but am concerned about the comfort of the pad.
I didn’t measure it but seems accurate (it’s the same length as me…). Comfort was good.
Great review, look forward to the longevity report. Q. Do the Lanshan vestibules pitch closer to the ground if required?
Still going strong 👍 yes, just lower the trekking poles.
Winner winner, cheesy dinner!😂
Need a gear your new products to show is essential 👌
I trust SGS R5.8
Need the gear reviews for us troops just starting out!
Lol Ben… looks like you’ll be doing gear reviews until you drop… there’s a lot of support for them in the comments 😁
I do like the mix of things that you do… the big question is, will you be doing a ‘through hike’ this year like twinnie?
… and what gear would you be packing for that? 🤩
Haha I know - stuck with them now! I'm trying to carve out some time to do a mutli-day trip. Not a thru-hike, more a 'get lost for 3 days in the wild' type thing.
In over 40 years of lugging a pack about, I've never heard the top of the pack called the 'brain' before. Just goes to show you're never too old to learn a new trick or terminology.
Try your poles at 130. Better air flow and much more space inside will be achieved. 👍🏼
March 2023 here. That sleeping mat, (square, 1.95m / R5.8) is now 131 GBP, plus shipping.
Gear tours help to educate us uneducated plus they help. Bit like watching a bbc documentary when we all was kids.....👍🙏
Keep doing gear stuff please! Also any tips on how to get a permission? Great videos, thanks.
Yes, watch my video on how to get permission: DON'T GET MOVED ON! Get PERMISSION to Wild Camp | Step-by-step guide!
ua-cam.com/video/P1e44dWrWr0/v-deo.html
Always good to see new kit as I think everyone heads to UA-cam specifically for this reason for everything.
That sleep pad looks good. The crinkly sound and the price is the one thing that put me off ever getting a thermarest. This looks like a good replacement, and like you said you don’t put a price on sleep. Multi day camps on poor sleep is miserable
Definitely. I've got high hopes for this mat. Just hoping it holds up over time. Thanks for watching mate 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors always mate. I like your videos.
Hi, great vid as always.
How do you find the pack being black? I’ve got a few 5.11 packs that are black and they are very dark inside, obviously.
I’m currently looking at osprey atmos ag65, not sure wether to get green or black. The green is a bit shinier than military green.
Also looking at getting the light tour mat.
Honestly I’ve never really thought about it doesn’t make much difference really 🤷♂️
Have you ever used Trekology UL140? If yes, which one would you rather choose - the Trekology UL140 or this Naturehike 5.8 for side sleeping??? Thanks.
Nope.
It is unreasonable that Thermarest is so expensive, I choose Light tour
"Tube Stake". Really, *no-one* spotted that? Hilarious.
Gear reviews from 'real people ' such as yourself are invaluable; as you were please. Thank you very much 😁👍
Btw, how tall are you?
5’11’’.
@@DaleyOutdoors
Thank you, it's how I judge tent inners as I find it more reliable than some manufacturer's figures.
🤣🤣Tube stake(steak)...are you kidding🤣🤣
Just hope nobody tunes in at the point where you’re sniffing your fingers without knowing about the snack accident
Haha let's hope not! 🤣
Just checking to be sure.. I'm about to buy the Exped 5r ultra. From your comments here and previous review, you're still happy to recommend it? Seems like the best sleeping pad deal around at 145 quid
Yes definitely recommend.