The spurs are sitting so pretty. If the hawks rebuild, they get great lottery picks. If they don't rebuild, they still get decent lottery picks because the hawks are play in team. If the hawks want their picks back from the spurs it's going to cost the hawks to let go of trae for cheap. That dejounte trade for the spurs was brilliant they tanked for wemby, and now the hawks are in shambles.
How..they have a lineup as Dejonte (guard the main ball handler) CJ on the corner man, Ingram, Zion and which ever centre out which hopefully they can get a floor spacer
@@j.h.g2001 I think Dejounte Murphy BI Zion would be better because they’re better playmakers and CJ and Herb could be deployed off the bench for a boost in scoring or defense, respectively
If he can play as a 2nd or 3rd option then absolutely, i think he will be similar to lonzo in NO bc his defense can lead to fast breaks w zion (free cheese), its all about how he fits their halfcourt sets that will make or break this pairing
Murray and Jones should start. CJ gotta embrace that 6th man role. Even if Ingram goes Murphy has upside and is a great defender. Alvarado is a pest as well, is going to be hard for backcourts to score, man
Nah Brandon is likely gone. Him and Murray play the exact same style but I can’t say replacing Brandon with Murray as the second star is a good idea in the long run
We got Murray for LARRY NANCE JR., Dyson Daniels and first round picks.. the Pels didn’t have to include B.I 🤯 they got the PG that they needed and could still move Ingram or.. keep him :)
Im very skeptical of the Pels. I actually think this trade helps the Hawks more. Going based off the starting lineup you mentioned-Dejounte is an ok defender, definitely not as good as he once was pre-injury. CJ, Ingram, and Zion can be defensive disasters more often than not. They do have Herb off the bench but that starting lineup would have some questions. They may be able to score on anybody but can they get some consistent stops? On the other hand, the Hawks now have recouped unprotected picks in their next drafts and have surrounded Trae with plenty of size and better defense-I believe Dyson ranked 3rd in POA defense. Also, based on stats, Hawks were better with Trae on the floor and Murray off, rather than the other way around. It’s obviously Trae’s team again since they cant afford to tank (thanks to the Spurs). I think the Hawks may surprise a ton of teams because they have better defense, size, and Trae has always led them to a top 5 offense. I predict that they at least make the play-in and possibly squeak into the playoffs to be 1st round losers again. However, they’ll be set up to make a big move next offseason.
Pelicans got a gift from the Hawks! Murray was a better player than MIkal Bridges last year, and yet they only gave up half of what New York gave up to Brooklyn! I'm still shocked how little the Hawks got in return, especially considering the gave up a lot to get Murray from the Spurs! There was a trading market for Murray! I'm so excited for next season as a Pelicans fan!
i don't think the hawks are rebuilding fully. if that were the case i feel like they would've held on to a guy like AJ Griffin. Super young player who's already shown an ability to produce at the NBA level.
imo they need to trade cj or at least bring him off the bench for this move to work. dejounte, herb, ingram, zion, and (insert center caude idk if they start yves right away)
Hawks not rebuilding they just doing what should've happened in the first place. When you have trae young less is more. We just need wings and shooters. The Murray trade never made sense to me I felt like Malcolm Brodgan was the guy to trade for. But I like the way hawks are headed also I don't think BI is a player that you look at and be like this is all we needed
Im not gonna be one of those people saying its bad they drafted Zaccharie, he could turn out great, but gah damn have the Hawks been putting up hall of fame numbers of ass ever since they won the first pick. Shouldve drafted Sarr regardless imo, many players have said before they didnt want a certain team and got drafted there anyways, Paolo for example, Griffin for a 2rp, dejounte trade. Man, everyone needs to call the Hawks to see if they can fleece them more.
Herb jones cannot go to the bench. I believe pelicans trade BI for a solid starting center You need the core of Dejounte, Herb, Trey and zion starting with cj being a great 6 man. This would be the best
Hawks get Lakers 2025 pick in Essense betting that Davis and LeBron cant stay healthy again which would give them 2 lottery picks in 2025 one of the best drafts in a long time.
@@jaymorgan231I’m sure the lakers would’ve gave up max Christie & Christian wood & a 1st rd pick for DJ cause if Dyson Daniels is such a promising young talent then so is max the averages are almost close & max played 10 Less minutes a game than Dyson & im not even a lakers fan hawks just doing shit 😭😭
@@narrow3601 yeah but I thought that was because of possible playing team. Of course that was just a rumor though. If they knew they were gonna be selling, then they would’ve told him he will get all the playing time he wants
@@tonyschimmoeller “After swapping Tim Hardaway Jr. for Quentin Grimes, I have the Mavericks at: $8.9M below the luxury tax $16.2M below the first apron $27.1M below the second apron More than enough room to do a sign-and-trade or use the full Non-Taxpayer MLE.”
You don't tell a one man offensive engine to change his fucking playstyle. Trae has consistently made Atlanta a top 10 offense ever since he got there. By all accounts, Trae is Atlanta's offense.
We condensed assets into 1 talent, less cooks now. I know Z and BI are offence initiators but Dejonte will hopefully calm our 4th quarter offence and help us make the right play
The spurs are sitting so pretty. If the hawks rebuild, they get great lottery picks. If they don't rebuild, they still get decent lottery picks because the hawks are play in team. If the hawks want their picks back from the spurs it's going to cost the hawks to let go of trae for cheap. That dejounte trade for the spurs was brilliant they tanked for wemby, and now the hawks are in shambles.
They saw it coming fr, executed perfectly if Trae ends up in SA
Spurs def won the trade but the Hawks still have the talent to be a 5/6 seed in the East.
@@jaydenjones4709woah it’s no way you believe that😂5-6?
@@wil.buckss6914 I mean who is rlly a better team in the east rn outside of Celtics, Knicks, bucks/ pacers?
@@wil.buckss6914 East is so ass, my rec league could be a 5-6 seed in the east
CJ mccollum being considered part of their core is a big problem.
How..they have a lineup as Dejonte (guard the main ball handler) CJ on the corner man, Ingram, Zion and which ever centre out which hopefully they can get a floor spacer
🤣🤣
CJ is the adult, the voice of reason, voice of the locker room. That person is always apart of the core.
CJ McCollum is a basketball terrorist. If people struggle to see why he's a problem in our play, you simply don't watch basketball.
@@tonyschimmoellercj is corny
If CJ comes off the bench the pelicans are going to be insanely deep
Ik it cant happen bc $ but i want a dame/CJ reunion, dame, CJ, khris middleton, giannis & brook j feels like a pdx X Milwaukee collab 😂
@@cadfael3257 bringing CJ off the bench and giving BI the keys to the offense would make Zion a dark horse for MVP
yes. dejounte, herb, murphy, zion and whoever the center is. put cj and zion at c when you go small ball
@@j.h.g2001 I think Dejounte Murphy BI Zion would be better because they’re better playmakers and CJ and Herb could be deployed off the bench for a boost in scoring or defense, respectively
@@joeknapp9162 bro i forgot ingram 🤦🏻♂️ hahaha i think id been imagining he would be in the trade for a long time
Dejounte and Herb jones boutta have shit on lock
Dejounte isn’t the defender he once was in San Antonio
@@ajwilson2518 he will be if hes in a deefnsive culture like nola
@@ajwilson2518yes he is . He didn’t lose it . The hawks just changed his play
Dyson is a better defender than Dejounte
@@aaronspurr4149 you outta yo mind
11:48 valanciunas wit a WHAT
air stick
think he meant asterisk. Valanciunas is a free agent
P quick wit it
no fr💀💀 i just seen the alert
fax i didn’t even kno js opened youtube and found out
Man I’m happy for my boy Dejounte I think New Orleans is great for him
If he can play as a 2nd or 3rd option then absolutely, i think he will be similar to lonzo in NO bc his defense can lead to fast breaks w zion (free cheese), its all about how he fits their halfcourt sets that will make or break this pairing
Easily putting CJ on the bench if he doesn't get traded
Cj coming off the bench and scoring
Murray and Jones should start. CJ gotta embrace that 6th man role. Even if Ingram goes Murphy has upside and is a great defender. Alvarado is a pest as well, is going to be hard for backcourts to score, man
Yeah there's no way CJ starts over Herb idk what buddy talkin bout
That cat analysis be on point 🔥
Dam bro your growth on UA-cam is really inspiring keep up the great work
Let's go P!! Man been on a tear lately
Continuing the offeseason binge cant wait for this season
The Pelicans should keep Ingram at this point. But on the Atlanta side, they just wanted Dejounte gone lmao
Nah Brandon is likely gone. Him and Murray play the exact same style but I can’t say replacing Brandon with Murray as the second star is a good idea in the long run
Pelicans not about to give Ingram 52million bro either give them a discount or roll
We got Murray for LARRY NANCE JR., Dyson Daniels and first round picks.. the Pels didn’t have to include B.I 🤯 they got the PG that they needed and could still move Ingram or.. keep him :)
Herb absolutely cannot be benched or we will riot
P quick with the nba news 🔥I love the updates 🤝🏿
I couldn't agree more. I think Castle and some picks/money matching contracts get sent to Atlanta sometime soon for Trae.
That would be cool for castle to come home
I pray Zion stays healthy can be the Mavs of last year 😮💨
Im very skeptical of the Pels. I actually think this trade helps the Hawks more. Going based off the starting lineup you mentioned-Dejounte is an ok defender, definitely not as good as he once was pre-injury. CJ, Ingram, and Zion can be defensive disasters more often than not. They do have Herb off the bench but that starting lineup would have some questions. They may be able to score on anybody but can they get some consistent stops? On the other hand, the Hawks now have recouped unprotected picks in their next drafts and have surrounded Trae with plenty of size and better defense-I believe Dyson ranked 3rd in POA defense. Also, based on stats, Hawks were better with Trae on the floor and Murray off, rather than the other way around. It’s obviously Trae’s team again since they cant afford to tank (thanks to the Spurs). I think the Hawks may surprise a ton of teams because they have better defense, size, and Trae has always led them to a top 5 offense. I predict that they at least make the play-in and possibly squeak into the playoffs to be 1st round losers again. However, they’ll be set up to make a big move next offseason.
Love this trade for both parties honestly
Pelicans got a gift from the Hawks! Murray was a better player than MIkal Bridges last year, and yet they only gave up half of what New York gave up to Brooklyn! I'm still shocked how little the Hawks got in return, especially considering the gave up a lot to get Murray from the Spurs! There was a trading market for Murray! I'm so excited for next season as a Pelicans fan!
What happens w/ Herb Jones?? Put DJ at the 2? Comes off the bench??
So many questions
Starting center lol
CJ to the bench for Trey Murphy has to happen. Then they prolly move BI for a center
I just watched a scary movie P, u can't be having that shyt on the screen like that😂😂😂
Man college he went to
Don’t sleep on the pels!!
i don't think the hawks are rebuilding fully. if that were the case i feel like they would've held on to a guy like AJ Griffin. Super young player who's already shown an ability to produce at the NBA level.
thae bench is getting stronger, trading BI for a starting center with missi and reeves coming off the bench?!?
I agree Trae is more than likely to go next
Peee on tht timing!!
Is that how asterisk is pronounced ?? 🤣🤣
@11:50 in video
imo they need to trade cj or at least bring him off the bench for this move to work. dejounte, herb, ingram, zion, and (insert center caude idk if they start yves right away)
Yea this feel like they're selling fr
You telling me we couldn’t even get herb or Trey 😭
Nah there was no way we were gonna give y'all them 😂
Hell naw they are the future
U dont know ball
Where is David Stern to block the trade? 😂
was this prerecorded wtf how u get ts out so quick 😂😂
What’s going on in the background, is it a green screen
that’s crazy man
I’m assuming the hawks gonna flip nance for picks and young talent
Sweet content
PG: Murray, CJ(6th man), Alverado
SG: Jones, Hawkins
SF: Ingram?, Murphy
PF: ZIon, ?, JRE
C: ?, Missi, ?
Still work to do but not too bad
We got antonio Reeves too 😂
Hawks not rebuilding they just doing what should've happened in the first place. When you have trae young less is more. We just need wings and shooters. The Murray trade never made sense to me I felt like Malcolm Brodgan was the guy to trade for. But I like the way hawks are headed also I don't think BI is a player that you look at and be like this is all we needed
Think they should’ve went number one with Stephon castle
Im not gonna be one of those people saying its bad they drafted Zaccharie, he could turn out great, but gah damn have the Hawks been putting up hall of fame numbers of ass ever since they won the first pick. Shouldve drafted Sarr regardless imo, many players have said before they didnt want a certain team and got drafted there anyways, Paolo for example, Griffin for a 2rp, dejounte trade. Man, everyone needs to call the Hawks to see if they can fleece them more.
Ingram will bloom with a point guard. Just watch 😊❤
EJ was in the trade
What abt Ingram for Jarrett Allen and strus
I want the pelicans to get a stretch big like a Wendell Carter or a brook lopez
wendell can't stretch for shi
Trae going to the spurs 👀
Why would Atlanta want Ingram? For real… They just drafted a wing and have Jalen Johnson
I’m so disappointed all offseason I’ve been hearing we’re gonna get Ingram only for this to happen
P you to good for the casuals at “ numbers on the board “. I know you know
Herb jones cannot go to the bench. I believe pelicans trade BI for a solid starting center
You need the core of Dejounte, Herb, Trey and zion starting with cj being a great 6 man. This would be the best
👌
Hawks get Lakers 2025 pick in Essense betting that Davis and LeBron cant stay healthy again which would give them 2 lottery picks in 2025 one of the best drafts in a long time.
Lakers tax is actually real, damn
Y’all was not giving up reaves or picks, n aint got no young player as promising as Dyson
Laker fans are mad that their GM can’t flip DLo & picks for a borderline all-star and now all of a sudden the league has a vendetta out on them 💀
as it damn well should
@@97tilinfinity they swear it’s them against the world, only teams that care about them fr are Celtics n Clippers😭
@@jaymorgan231I’m sure the lakers would’ve gave up max Christie & Christian wood & a 1st rd pick for DJ cause if Dyson Daniels is such a promising young talent then so is max the averages are almost close & max played 10 Less minutes a game than Dyson & im not even a lakers fan hawks just doing shit 😭😭
u sleeping on herb he's definitely starting over CJ and CJ gonna be that spark plug off the bench
BI should get the keys to the offense and bring CJ off the bench.
I just feel like if they were having a fire sale, they should’ve taken Sarr. Unless they truly had Risacher as their #1 player
Sarr didn't want to come to Atl, did everything to duck the Hawks
@@narrow3601 yeah but I thought that was because of possible playing team. Of course that was just a rumor though. If they knew they were gonna be selling, then they would’ve told him he will get all the playing time he wants
If Dejontae is view more valuable then Trae I want to know what the hell they gonna get for Trae
Calling it now KAT for Ingram is going down
Mans went to the east, didn't get any real playoff burn, then got traded to a team where 2 of the 3 best players are injury prone. Geez that luck😢
I rather play for the pelicans than trash ass hawks anyday
Trae to Orlando for the love of god 😭😭😭😭
Yesssirrrr
First Team all Defense off the bench???
They also gave up EJ Liddell but ain’t nobody care abt that
This is a bad trade by Atlanta Hawks
Murray, Bi Herb Zion Missi CJ3 coming off bench
Brandon Ingram going to Dallas for Josh Green Maxi Kleber + 1st 🤔 Would make sense why they traded Larry Nance, knowing Maxi coming.
Math doesn't even work
@@tonyschimmoeller “After swapping Tim Hardaway Jr. for Quentin Grimes, I have the Mavericks at:
$8.9M below the luxury tax
$16.2M below the first apron
$27.1M below the second apron
More than enough room to do a sign-and-trade or use the full Non-Taxpayer MLE.”
@@C_A_R_L_A_M_A_R That has nothing to do with a 36 million incoming for a 23 mill outgoing trade.
Mavs fans trying to go undercover immediately spotted
@@narrow3601 same energy? 👀
Now you can trade BI for a center
Valanciunas with an aruhstick by his name
1:45 dejounte was NOT promenade
Phenomenal *
CJ and murphy off the bench if BI stays
Calling Dejuante Murray a defensive minded guard in 2024 is not true
I wouldn’t keep CJ
This isnt the last trade.
Ingram for Lauri
Herb start CJ off the bench
CJ IS NOT STARTING WTF🤣🤣. ITS DJM JONES BI ZION CENTER
QPskiii
P working OT
Free hawks fans from capela
I wonder if Brandon is going to LA for PG
As a wizards fan I hated the Deni trade but this trade made me feel better about it. To me it feels like the hawks got fleeced
First
Hawks go do everything but tell Trae to change his fucking playstyle
You don't tell a one man offensive engine to change his fucking playstyle. Trae has consistently made Atlanta a top 10 offense ever since he got there. By all accounts, Trae is Atlanta's offense.
Bad trade for pels. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
We condensed assets into 1 talent, less cooks now. I know Z and BI are offence initiators but Dejonte will hopefully calm our 4th quarter offence and help us make the right play
Man put Cj ass on the bench or trade him