Keeping Brandon Ingram is an option for New Orleans Pelicans but it could make the rotation awkward
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- There's been no trade for Brandon Ingram yet so what would it look like if he stayed on the New Orleans Pelicans. Jake Madison looks at what type of extension Ingram would need to sign to stay on the Pels, plus how would the rotation look with him and Zion Williamson alongside Dejounte Murray and CJ McCollum? Does Trey Murphy III or Herb Jones still start? Is there a way to a viable starting center?
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Hey Jake, lineup should be Murray,Herb,Bi,Zion, trade Cj,Cody,&Robinson-Earl 2,3 picks for a center. We get off Cj bad contract for his age and #'s and while we have sum for him, also Cj wasn't First or second team anything soo you start the guy who was Herb, along side Murray who is a good def as well and that back court will be our key def in late games to defend and be in trasition vs this back court heavy western conf. Trust BI not the CJ.!
The advanced stats show that BI and Zion were a +13 together. Also, CJ and BI were a +13. It was CJ and Zion that didn't fit. The funny thing was I got these stats from Jake a few months back. You'll notice the BI haters never use stats because the stats show that he fits great.
They won't use it because it doesn't fit their narrative
Haha agree preach the truth! They will never bring up zion stats this year coz its the lowest of all his season and will bring up the games where he scored high or showed up while they will bring all the stat line of BI this year to prove that he had underperformed this year yet has only 2 pts lower in ppg vs zion and everything is comparable. What a joke this zion fans are
Yes but nobody wants CJ. They barely want b.i right now. How the pelicans gonna get a center?
@@virginmax They want BI, teams want to know that he will resign if they trade for him, they don't want to lose assets for nothing
@@novacain943 B.I will resign. He's not a fool. Unless it's a team like the hornets or wizards, he will resign. No problems should arise there.
Keep BI remember what happen with Jrue and Josh
Why do we have to lose a key part of our team. We finally got the true point God we needed, why take a step back. Let's start the rookie at center! And see what we got. Maybe get a good backup for him, who could also mentor him. Who Dat!
No deal is better than a bad deal
Would disagree. Extending him on a good contract is better than no deal. A bad deal is still better than nothing.
I don't think we need Ingram anymore we have Trey and Herb that can play the 3 and we drafted Antonio Reeves and Murray can play 1 through 3
This might sound bold, but i think the best starting 5 would be .... Missi, Zion, Bi, Herb, and Murray. ... The reason why i think this is the best starting 5 is because Zion, BI, and Murray are going to eat up most of the scoring time, with Missi protecting the rim and Herb guarding the best player. Murray and BI can both shoot 3 point shots, but they can also score in other ways, and Zion can still do his one move. Trade CJ to clear up some money, off the bench is Jose, TM3, Hawkins, a vet center, and Ryan. Its fine that most of the better 3 point shooters are in the second unit, they will all still get good minutes, but the starting 5 has enough fire power to make up for it.
Yas. Maybe the vet starts for now though
Don't sleep on Antonio Reeves
Extend Ingram . Only right move
He only wants the max. He is not worth anything close to 50 mill
CJ would be the perfect 6th man to lead the second unit. He would be free to operate as he pleases. Plus defensively the combo of Herb and Murray would be much better than CJ and help Herb to come on better as a 3 an D player.
Yep, then we would have a vet to lead and direct the younger pels. My only question is how can we get Jose and Hawkins on the court.
@@walk4jesusinternationaldis269 a scheme of Jose Hawkins CJ Murphy and a bakup center would be interesting to see
Agreed. I've been pushing for it since mid-season, and with Murray here now and Trey ready to start, it just makes that much more sense.
Murry,Herb,B.I, Z, & ????
Jose,Cj,J HAWK, Trey, Missi....
If we can't find a Center Zion will have the Ultimate Mismatch every game at the 5. I know he to small. But GSW MADE THIS WORK. AND ZION WAY MORE ATHLETIC DRAYMOND. SO IF HE DID PLAY SMALL BALL 5. TREY SHOULD START OVER CJ BECAUSE OF LENGTH..... AGAIN I WOULDNT TRADE B.I. FOR ANYTHING ON THE MARKET BECAUSE nothing is a better option then him with that team... He basically helped all these players grow and u wanna say it's business.... This would be just as bad as GSW NOT WANTING TO KEEP KLAY... THEY WILL PAY FOR IT AND BE HORRIBLE THIS YEAR. I WOULD TRADE CJ BEFORE I TRADE B.I.... CJ CAME TO PELS BECAUSE OF B.I. NOT Z AT THE TIME... SO LETS STOP WIT THE HE DOESN'T FIT BS..... THEY WAS TO CHEAP TO PAY ZO2 ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO.... NOW THEY DOING SAME DUMB SHIT AGAIN.... AND WE RIGHT THERE.... LET WILLIE GREEN HAVE WHAT HE IS USE TO.... DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS HIS TEAM OR Z's .... They are the leaders and the core.... of next dynasty...
Pels paid CJ 33 million aint no way in hell they are letting him come off the beach 😂
Trade CJ + pick for Ayton or Wendell Carter Jr
No
All this Ingram trade talk is foolish, we basically have a big four and great pieces on the bench to mix and match. Nba is about exploiting match ups every night. Sometimes you run into teams who can't be exploited as much. Once we added Murray we became a team that can now collapse the defense aside from point Zion. Zion is a great one on one and do is Ingram. Now throw in Murray and defenses can't cheat anymore. Would it be great to have a scoring center? Yes but plenty of championship teams have done it with out one. 96 bulls, 2004 pistons, mavs with Tyson Chandler. You just need really great players at other positions which is what we have. Stop trying to force a center on this team, let the big four go to work and earn their money. As kyrie proved, talent always rises to the top. Ingram is only 27 and is in his prime. You can throw huerter and Barnes in the trash. Also why do we need picks, we don't have any playing time left for rookies unless they are at center
New Orleans should do what the warriors did to Klay Thompson this last season play Brandon and let him prove if he wants that max deal
murray jones murphy williamson n center* the only lineup i wan see
Saying BI is not a fit is BS. He literally carried the team last year and the only reason he struggled in the 1st rd was due to injury.
the claim he didnt fit with fatman , but the same stats they brag about says other wise, matter of fact its a video on youtube i think called zions first 50 dunks of the season and a good majority of those were from BI , naji and herb from lobs..but let these casuals tell it he dont fit lol
Exactly
Carried the team? Lies maybe a cpl years ago. Zion was carrying. And his fit with Zion and borrego offense isn’t ideal. He needs to shoot more threes and keep the ball moving if he stays
@@donellramon783 Zion didn’t carry shit. How tf he carried anything when out of his own mouth he said Ingram and cj had to carry the load of the team until he got his conditioning together. Zion didn’t start going off until after allstar break and the mfer still only averaged 2 more points than Ingram a game on more attempts. He couldn’t even finish the one play in game of his life. Ingram lead the team to the win against Sacramento to get into the playoffs on a bad knee while fatman sat out with another hamstring injury and watched the team. Dude never lead the pelicans to nothing. Pelicans were battling for the 4th seed and were the 5th seed when Ingram went down and ended up in the play in because Zion choked the last game of the season after they lost 4 in a row and and one 4. And cj deserve just as much credit for turning around the losing streak. Zion ain’t no winner lol
If we are to keep BI, who do you want to be our starting center?
I wouldn’t start Cj
Yeah we need herb out there
Trading him will be a mistake . Why ? Because of his 1 year remaining NO team is gonna offer his true value . Not even close .we already lost naji , dyson and nance. Role players like that who play GOOD defense are huge. Yes we added murray but overall right now this team is worse than the play in team we lost with. We have nothing at center. A rookie sure. Like im so tired of hearing about the slander on this mans name. He had a bad series yes . If yall think trey is gonna step in and give you 5 straight yrs of 23 ppg on 48% shooting your crazy. Not to mention ingrams ability to create. Hes by far the best passer on the team. He drops dimes. I understand why they dont want to give him 50 mill. Thats fine. But he could easily return to form this year and be worth that 50 mill extension after the season. Watch what happens we send him to Sacramento with a great coach and legit pg. Pels nation is gonna be salty as f
Haha true. They just want to trade him so zion fans can claim their zion as the alpha of the team. What a joke
That’s the most unbiased comment I’ve seen. I think the funniest part is they keep saying that Brandon “wants” $50m and use it as an argument to trade him away. But I never read a single article saying that he “wants” such an amount, it’s only the largest amount he’s able to get and all I’ve read is he’s willing to work on a deal that’ll work for both sides, meaning he’s ok to take a paycut. And then they will say he is in Trey’s way. Dude I love Trey but he’s a role player. He can’t even create his own shots let alone creating for others. If he’s the first option he will look even worse than Brandon in the Thunder series even if he’s fully healthy. You would be dumb if you trade Brandon away because you want to pay Trey big money
@pierceliu9914 trey isn't what they think he is. Not yet. His ball handling is very very sub par. He can finish at the rim, he can chuck 30 footers sure. But when he gets the defensive attention that a zion or bi gets his impact is gonna plummet. He's already the streakiest shooter we have. He has more weeks of consecutive games where he goes 1 for 7 from 3 than he does where he'll get hot and go 6 for 8 or 7 for 10 from 3. Hes either cold or hot. There's no middle. He's a catch and shoot threat. Period. Truthfully i think hawkins potential as a scorer is much higher .. why ? He's already shown he can score off the dribble. Pull up. Off screens. Catch and shoot. Drive to the rim. Drive left pull up. Drive right pull up. Step back. He already has all that. I don't think I've ever seen trey ever put it on the floor dribble and create a jump shot that wasn't a step back heave from 35 feet. Your right too.... it's not public knowledge anywhere that bi is demanding 50 mill. Ppl are using that bs as a reason to trade him when in all honesty of ALL the guys we have he's probably the LAST one who'd approach his contract situation with that attitude
@Rick-ii5es I get why they want fo hand the keys to zion but thats alot to hang your hat on when he has yet to play a playoff game in 6 seasons now. Sure he played 70 games. But should we be willing to bet arguably our most skilled player on it ? Idk man . I personally think cj is the biggest issue with the offensive identity of this team. He plays in tunnell vision mode all game long. Doesn't play a lick of defense. Doesn't and HASNT played well in ANY play in or playoff games . They say his vet leadership is reason to keep him. To be a voice for the younger guys. Ok , how are the younger players supposed to follow your example and listen to you when in every must win game or must win scenario you flat out suck. His shot selection is awful.
@@joshromero-burgan9860 yeah Hawk shows some glimpses for sure. Trey’s center of gravity is just too high meaning it’s hard to break down the defenders with his dribble. I mean Bi got a very low center of gravity for his size but it’s still not comparable to other elite guards. So I could only envision Trey’s ceiling being a Markkanen and Klay type of off ball all stars, but you need good coaching to turn him into this type of player but Willie Green clearly would not be able to do that
It's show how league sees bi that's sad can't get rid of him don't sign anything big let him walk like paul than overpriced contract or bum players
The NBA Is dumb if they let Ingram stay on New Orleans Pelicans this season. Think about it, Murray, McCollum Ingram, Zion, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Messi, Alvarado. I didn't even mention Hawkins, but we have a stacked team. It's more than a Playoff team, this could be a championship team. Only thing that is missing is another Center, and A better coach.
we got a center in Messi check out his college film, guy can rebound block shots, the guy born out of do season like Zion, problem is we have no coach to see that. Crash course he can start.
WE GOT MESSI DAWG !!!!
He wasn’t saying trade him after phx series when he was fully healthy smfh
@adoniswillis3183 course he wasn't. Ppl forget brandon put up 28/6/6 on the best team in the league for a whole series with mikal bridges guarding him , who is considered by MANY to be a top tier defender. The only reason he struggled so bad against okc was cuz he was out a whole month directly prior to the series. Does he deserve the criticism? If he wants to be a super star player yeah he does deserve it. He played badly but mfs act like we ain't seen him dominate a playoff series before cuz we have
Lead the team in assists, makes everyone around him better, is a double team threat, can play off the ball or on the ball, can play defense, the team loves him, .... But according to the host he is not a good fit for tye team 🤦🏼
He isnt, he doesnt play the way the team wants to play. He isnt even that good off the ball, he needs the ball in his hands for him to be effective
@@lstheprodigy7761 😆😆😆 like the host, you clearly don't know what you are talking about about, just regurgitating the same lame talking point. Despite the fact that Zion is way worse off ball than BI, how do you know what the team wants to do? By any indication, it would seem like the team wants to play slower, due to the fact that they just traded Murray, a slower guard that compliments the way BI plays more than the way Zion plays. Explain how a person like BI doesn't fit with a team when he makes everyone around him better, and explain how Zion fits with the team when he doesn't do that. Zion has two moves, driving to the left, and kicking the ball out to shooters. Both of which he needs the ball in his hand for, and since the team has never been built with surrounding him with shooters, he is clearly the person who doesn't fit with how 'The Team' wants to play. Whoever it is the 'The Team' means.
@@thebabblingbrookstudiollc zion is a better player then BI, why would u wanna keep a player who makes things harder for your number 1 guy. Make it make sense
@@lstheprodigy7761 Zion averaged 2 more points a game than BI, he is not as good of a 3 point shooter than BI, he doesn't nearly shoot free throws as well as BI, BI lead the team in assists, BI is significantly better at defense, BI is more effective than Zion when they don't have the ball in their hands, and BI is better at elevating the players around him. BI has a positive+/- when playing with Zion, a positive+/- when playing with CJ, yet Zion and CJ have a negative+/- when just those two are on the court together. BI is clearly the team's best player.
@@thebabblingbrookstudiollc thinking BI is the teams best player is honestly laughable ngl, i respect BI’s game but BI is a teams number 2 or 3 best option
Murray and Herb works
BI avg 20 &5 a game, you don’t find many players in the league putting up those # on a regular basis. If you can’t get any takers , let him compete with Murphy for the starting position. I wouldn’t trade him. He’ll be motivated to prove organization’s wrong
Compete with murphy lets me know. This channel is a cult channel
@@troysavoie772 you know what’s crazy to me , they swear BI had such a bad year compared to others and Zion to them had a great year but Zion stats are only 2 points better average than Ingram and the other stats are damn near identical with less games played regular season than ingram. So by that logic if Ingram was having a good year he would be better than zion 😂
Yep. He was 34th for ppg, 24th in assists. Lotta guys can be top 20 in one of those categories but bad in another.
Bi had years to get us somewhere where did he get us , at the house if we someone 50 mil a year it's not going to be him
@@whodatnola BI wasn’t the franchise player Zion was but guess what he hasn’t done shit in the same amount of time but eat and stay injured. BI is the only one that cared enough out of the two to recover from his injuries during the season and try to get the team to the post season unlike lazy azz Zion . Dude is going on 6 seasons in without playing a single playoff game. Dude is blake griffin without a mid range. Overrated dude finna have the pelicans in the lottery again when he misses games again 😂
Man, I don't know what it is with you about CJ, but CJ is the weakest link. It doesn't matter if CJ is hitting 3s, especially if he's letting the guy he's guarding to hit them as well
Call Brooklyn, and offer CJ for Ben Simmons and some picks. Simmons may be overpaid, but at least it's an expiring contract....
Can’t start cj if he’s being traded next offseason. That would stunt herb jones growth and would just be stupid. What is this infatuation with cj? Ppl keep saying cj not coming off the bench. Why not?
Every dayer! Jake, why have we not attempted to trade CJ?? He’s dragging the team down. We will never be in championship contention with him. He’s a nice guy & I like him personally, but he chokes in crunch time & playoffs. He needs to GEAUX!!!
He does fit this team
Unless you are talking with the front office, it’s just hot air of opinion, a year and a half ago y’all wanted to get rid of Z and build around BI and now we are here 🤦🏾♂️ what are you even talking about in this video, your viewpoint has no bearing on the association
I don’t care what you heard jake DJ will start and Herb will start so no room for CJ plus Hawk will not get minutes with CJ Jose & DJ just trade CJ for a Center and pay BI a lil less
The whole thing about this is who is to say Ingram will sign a short extension? He doesn't have to the same way Pels don't have to pay him what he wants. At best you might be able to convince a 2 year 45 million but not really much less than that.
Yeah that 4 year or 3 year will not be bad
Pels need to trade BI for Jarrett Allen asap, I am hearing that Allen doesn't fit with Mobley. CJ will only be effective as a sixth man, in my opinion. If Brandon is gone, Trey can start, if CJ is gone Herb can start and he plays better defense than CJ.
Yes I agree but the pelicans paid media are trying to desensitize the fans. Brandon not getting traded to the deadline if even that. I hope I'm wrong....
Jake is clearly a Ingram hater. Stay off the needle Jake
Pels waited and waited on getting a center. Teams now know Pels may be getting desperate. Not a good situation.
I think Ingram might take less for a player or Dejounte Murray's caliber. He has the point guard he asked for. Center is a glaring hole. JV should feel disrespected, and gonna be missed. Man is a solider, never miss a game, mister double double. The only other answer is u make Trey/Zion a 5. OKC scary now with big men and we have none. idk im confused. But Z, BI, Murray, CJ, Trey/Herb. is a crazy starting 5. I like keeping CJ, like Chris paul is a good idea for spurs. West got cut throat and scary. CJ 6 man of the year might be the play.
I never said he was worth 50M. You just don’t quick decisions. Take your time and make the right deal. Keep or trade him for something of value.
Well said people be saying dumb s***
5 years is not quick lol
5 years is not quick lol
Get rid of C.J. Hawk can take his place
Both Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter are starters on a winning team & have been starters since they came in the league. 1 of them & a 1st can be flipped for a quality center. I'm prefer to keep Barnes as he can back up Zion or start in the front court in case of injury. I don't think its a bad trade if you can't trade BI for a top center.
Exactly
Let's say BI is a FA. How many players received max contracts this off season. 1 PG. Are the Clippers way worse really? The new salary cap makes it very difficult to get a max contract as a unrestricted FA.
Siakam get a max too. And OG, who is also very injury prone, get 40mil+.
There is ZERO chance BI is here next year.
happy 4th yall
Appreciate you bro 💯
Happy 4th, everyone. Jake, please do a show on the perfect roster makeup. Using percentage needed from that position. What does each player need to contribute to win it all?
Trade CJ and some picks for Ayton.
Trade CJ or bring him off the bench
You still will be paying his salary if you trade him now. Brandon is one of the top players in the league. If you can't get at least equal value in a trade, I would keep him.
Trade Ingram for Desmond bane
Bout time someone even talk about the scenario of keeping him it’s crazy trade trade trade
B.I will be a ALL Star this year hands down..... He is still the best option on offense... It was easy for OKC too set defense to stop on person. They knew the offense was gonna come from him.... IF YOUR SUPERSTAR HASNT BEEN AVAILABLE IN EITHER PLAYOFF APPERENCE DO U REALLY BLAME B.I.???? FOR HIS LEG BEING BENT OTHER WAY AND STILL TRYNA BATTLE..... NBA IS SOFT NOW.... KOBE PLAYED THROUGH EVERYTHING.... AND ITS EASY TO POINT FINGERS AT THE ONES WHO OUT THERE. BUT IF THEY WERE HEALTHY OKC WOULDVE LOST 4-1 .... BREAK UP B.I AND ZION AND LOSE THE CHANCE TO BE #1 ALL YEAR AND WIN CHAMPIONSHIP. OR KEEP THEM TOGETHER AND LET THEM GET HEALTHY... I WOULD BE CALLING LAKERS ABOUT BRINGING J HAYES BACK. ALL THE 5'S ARE GONE SO U NEED SOMEONE CHEAP
Murray and Bi won't work
How they won’t??
@@duhh4641 BI needs the ball , they're way too many ball handlers on this team
@@trailmountain8336 stagger the minutes
@@trailmountain8336And you need to improve your English skills.
Jake, why can’t we trade for a center?? Surely there is some kind of trade the Pels could devise to pair BI with a couple of other pieces to get SOMEBODY that can protect the rim!! Many teams have two centers, and we don’t have one, excluding the rookie Messi! Jonas is gone, Larry is gone…WE NEED A CENTER, AND NEED ONE NOW!! Cody is good in spurts but everyone knows he’s not the answer.
I dont care what no one says , Franz, Ben Sims, Paul George, Immanuel Quickly, Bradley Beal, Rudy Gobert, Fred Vanvleet, are not worth 40+ million as role players!!
This is why we have to trade Ingram cause Ingram better than them and they got paid!!
Last year they were trading Zion all summer and now it's B I. I'm not sure if anyone is paying attention to the fact that quietly we have a top 3 starting 5 in the league. Dejuante, CJ, Herb, B.I & Zion.
Ingram is the reason this team is even relevant. One Injured series and now all of a sudden he don’t fit. Most of Trey 3s come off BI getting doubled and having the court vision and IQ to find him. Jose is right hand man. Trey his protege and when him and Zion healthy Nola is a hard team to beat. I would say send CJ to the bench he would torch any team in the league off the bench automatic 6moty…. Start Murray Herb Ingram Murphy and Zion…. Everyone most learn to box out and Rebound… get Dwight he can still be productive gives you rim protection and rebounding… Grab Cousins as well both on minimum contracts… Still got Hawk and Ryan and Alvarado & the rookie so the guard position is good… ppl forget when Brandon and Zion both in the floor not many teams can beat them… now with Murray and CJ you got two players who can hold it down if the injury bug hits Zion and BI… with this roster Nola one center away from being the best in the west…. You gotta see it thru at this point
If they keep BI” next year I will cry because we not making the playoffs with this same old story all over again smh..
Jake can you confirm this Brandon Ingram traded to the Miami heat for Tyler Herro and Caleb Martin
Bro you are reading a bleacher report article that makes fake trade suggestions lol
You can use any words you want(fit). Regardless.. our starting forwards do not make enough 3-point shots. Period. End of discussion. Until that changes, we will never compete for a championship.
An extension is good or bad based on the yearly salary he signs for. Personally I like the idea of resigning him, trading for another young center, and finding another cheap veteran center. Incremental changes. If the perfect trade doesn’t materialize, don’t over reach. BI is still a valuable asset and this team still has to show playoff success for contention.
I’d extend BI,maybe give him a 2-3 yr deal & we’ll see where we’re at afterwards. Dude can ball,defensively he’s a bit of a liability but that’s something the team had to address.
i dont understand why we wouldnt keep the prototypical offensive small forward who has made strides on defense in the middle of his prime. maybe im delusional i dont know, d murray as the 3rd option and cj as the 4th with herb, trey murphy, jose, and hawkins coming off the bench dont sound bad but i dont know maybe im delusional
CJ should be a backup going forward. He can organize the second unit and play against lesser players. Two forty percent three point shooters, Herb and Trey are the wings for the foreseeable future.
Why do some people think BI is a good fit on the pels? He plays the opposite of how the team wants to play, his skills arent doubted but his fit is and his play on the court doesn’t mesh well with their best player. Not quite sure how some “fans” dont understand that.
Shamit Dua wrote a column about the traded player exception, and waiting out the Cavaliers on Allen. Thoughts?
It will be a rough coming year. T-wolves, Thunder should be very good. I still think we have a shot, but it won't be easy
I would hope they could trade him for Jarrett Allen… move him to the East and get our center
Cavs said they want to keep Allen
Love BI but Z-Murray-Trey-Herb HAVE to play. Gotta figure something out.
Jake, it is so clear you don't like BI. Why? Please be more objective in your reporting....
We are bringing him back, Griff has been wanting to do this the whole time. We are screwed on center. We will be going cheap and hope our rookie will pan out.
Keep him, use the lebron max technique, 2 yrs, 2yrs, 2hrs, that's how he always gets his teams, 2nd yr he opts in or out, the cycle repeats
Maaaaan, we need Trey to get dat starting spot!!!!
Plus , Trey is about to get paid !!! Pels salary cap will be to high if BI stays .
Who does the negotiating in these trade discussions, Bryson or Griff?
Why not keep BI and get a center in one of these unfinished sign and trade that we are in the middle of with naji
y'all wanted everyone to fit with Zion like the only problem is that the bust can't shoot so you need to adjust for him. lol
Here’s the plan: Pair BI & CJ to get a young center or go out for Lauri Markkanen!!!
Agreed
Keep BI.. pels finally have a pg. look at Bi 3 point shooting % when he had Lonzo…
Trusting Cj over BI will be the worst move this franchise makes
Why can't we get rid of McCollum and keep Ingram
BI doesn't fit on pelicans? Oh come on he carried the team by himself.
jake did we give up on Naz Reid being perfect fit? is he gettable?
keep Ingram he was hurt in the play-off don`t get rid of him yet, could hurt the moral, and as far as centers go that guy Missi ought to be the starting center right off the bat, he`s like Zion a player born out of do season, he will catch on quick. If you play for Green anybody can catch on quick of a no Coach.
no u know what hurts moral? trying to trade someone for months, publicly, then bring him back at reduced minutes... we'll get what we can get for BI and at worst parlay picks into depth and flexibility
I like missi too. lemme see some matkovic too idc
If i were the pelicans ill trade zion for alperen sengun, or wemby or any star center. Then ill start murray, herb, bi, trey and star center with cj as 6th man. In that way i wont worry any more about injury issues with zion and his one dimensional move. Haha
Coz if they are going to trade bi who wants to be in the city they will regret. In a few years, zion leaving new orleans after his contract expire. He was never sold to the city of New Orleans as much as BI is.
He might want to get traded to Golden State with Jerry Stackhouse now assistant coach .
Z been out most of time as player but trade the player who kept us afloat and is fan favorite isnt a good move. This looks bad this is why no one wants to come to NeW Orleans.
with BI, it's more about fit and finances it seems
Bring him back move CJ by the trade deadline
Keep Brandon Ingram every year he almost carry the team
Who is having these conversations that B.I. is trash?
No I would trade Brandan igram u already traded for Murray
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We don’t have a coach to make our talent work.
Herb Jones was the only Guard/Forward to be awarded 1st Team All-Defense… you CANNOT put him on the bench. He’s the reason our defense was as good as it was. You also CANNOT trade him. His level of production and the cheap contract he has. You can’t let that go. OG Anunoby got 5yr $212mm. And I’m not saying OG is a bad player, but 4yr $54mm. Herb has to start and you cannot trade him due to his production and the flexibility his contract allows the team to upgrade
We should trade for Myles Turner
This fan base is trash And delusional
CJ needs to be traded
Why make Sacramento better? That trade helps them way more then it helps the Pelicans, those picks will be late rounders
Pelicans just need to go with young, cheap, and serviceable centers. Missi(block shots and rebound, has a decent post-game), Matkovic (can defend the paint, rebound, and shoot 3s), and try to find an undrafted 7-foot diamond in the rough like Jose and Naji were. Look at what Dallas did with Gafford and Lively, they weren't superstar centers but they hustled and did the little things.
Particularly interested in how the team, in general, manages Herb and Trey. They fill similar roles but excel in different areas - Trey's shooting and Herb's defence.
Both feel like they should start and seems awfully difficult to do with BI. But I understand why we would also keep him.
It would be great to keep B.I as he's the teams best player... otherwise with the Moves made this summer this far the Pells look like they got weaker defensively. If there was one takeaway from last season's playoffs -- the teams that made it the farthest tended to be the best defensively -- especially the Celtics.
You don’t know if BI fits him and Zion haven’t played with a point guard together.., Also he’s a 26 year old all star who going to emerge into a superstar.. just run it the hell back with Murray… if anything fire the damn coach!!!
LM from Utah is happening
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TRADE ZION!! If you put up a silhouette of an NBA player, underneath you had Zion’s stats, and games played, and the caption said, “This player hasn’t played a single playoff game in 5 years,” would you build your team around him??? HELL NO! We’re talking about trading Brandon before we get no value for him. At least Brandon has showed he can win you playoff games. This past season, he was hurt. But before then, we didn’t have those questions. I also feel this is a great time to force Brandon to shoot more 3s, change his shot selection some due to how poorly he played this past season. Something has to change and I think Brandon has the work ethic to do so… Zion on the other hand. You need such specific lineups for him because of his poor spacing. He’s ALWAYS hurt. And honestly, I feel like his explosiveness isn’t like it used to be, and he’s still so young. If he’s regressing in explosiveness already, imagine the next 3-5 years. It won’t get any better… I’m trading Zion while he still has value. If we don’t pay or trade Brandon, he may walk for nothing. But if Zion is hurt another year, his trade value will TANK!! This isn’t just a make it or break it year for BI, but Zion’s value will tank if he’s not healthy next season. And this is the guy we’re building our team around… Absolutely pathetic. Zion has failed us 5 years in a row and a 6th year won’t be any different.
5. Missi
4. Ingram
3. Herb
2,1 Murray
1,4. Zion
At the center position, are you looking for more athleticism and defense or prefer floor spacing?