I fish the Lake of Okeechobee in Fl. ,I have been looking for a knot to replace the Palomar knot fishing in heavy cover flipping different lures. This looks like a well thought out design and seems to look pretty strong. I will add it to my fishing list to experiment while on the water and will give you an update on my experience with this knot, I'm pretty excited to see how it would handle in short hand to hand combat with some trophy fishes in Florida. Let you know in a month , Jose Santiago .
Great in-depth description. Thank you Jose. Tight lines, tag us in your next bass photo on Instagram. Fished Lake O once before, had a few of those those long thin garfish follow my lure a few times, they looked kinda cool, kinda hard to hook tho on the lure I was using.
Hello Warren - Murray from Zambia here - I watched the strength tests and incredible to see this knot come out tops 👍 would you know whether starting the uni with a loop through the eye (just like the Toit) improves its strength?
@@toitfishing I liked the looks of your knot so I tested your knot against my knot with 50 lb braid and your knot broke at 28.2 lbs. while my knot tested at 48.4 lbs. My knot The Fish-N-Fool knot was crowned the worlds strongest knot on the "Knot Wars" tv Show back in 2009. Maybe you need to test my knot as I don't have as good of testing equipment as you do. I use 5 turns on mono or fluoro and 7 on braid
Greetings from Turkey. I am Kadri Ağralı. I learned this knot two years ago by watching your videos and I have been using this knot in all my hunting for two years. I have experienced a lot so far. It is much stronger and easier to do than the knots I used before. I have great respect for the work you do. Thank you very much for this reason.
Hi Kadri, thank you so much for taking the time to give feedback on the Toit Knot. Yes it is truly a strong knot, I am hoping to get back onto the knot testing this year. Take care.
I decided to give this knot at try after being a devout Trilene knot user. My issue with the Trilene knot was that I was having issues with it not cinching down properly at times. With that said, a good friend introduced me to this channel & knot. I took a leap of faith and I added this knot to my arsenal with had zero issues with it not cinching down and it was hella strong. Thanks Warren!!! This is now my go to knot.
I like how the main line exits the knot straight out, opposed to others at an angle that can break at that stressed point…. 🤔 going to use your design from here on out! Thanks mate…
So, okay, it really gets my goat when people preface their opening sentence with either of these, so many thanks for editing them out. Nice knot too, by the way. Raymondo.
Coming form someone that doesn’t know 1 fishing knot I need to learn at least one that’s easy for me and doesn’t come undone when I get a snag or a fish on the hook his looks to be the end of my search thanks
Hey Django Wlango....Love the name by the way. If you learn this knot, I am certain it will not fail you. I am getting a lot of great feedback on the knot and many people are saying its breaking nowhere near the knot. Its is slightly difficult to cinch but a little practice and loads of saliva sorts this out no problem. It really does stop all the movement within the knot. Tightlines and tag us on any future catches online.
That's a solid knot right there! easy to tie on 20lb braid to tiny SPRO swivels, a bit more fiddly with fluoro but it's not particularly difficult. I look forward to trying it out on the water tomorrow. I'm in San diego, so I kinda have to use the jam, and thnks to your channel, I'm now using 3 turns on it, works as well as ever. I don't see how your knot could ever be tied faster than the jam, but it's absolutely rock solid, you can feel there's no nonsense there.
Thank you Nick. SDJ is perfect for Fluoro, just watch the pinch points on the SDJ and the Pitzen, they both suffer with pinch point issues on Monofilament. Tightlines
I want to see you test Jacks Knot 2.0. So far it is a really impressive knot that I have found on UA-cam. I’m going to try your knot out and give you feed back.
With an IQ in the 99th percentile it's rare that something impresses me. This elegant little knot however has done just that ✔ Basically it's a trilene but the added act of wrapping the hanger with the tag sends the tag up the centre of the knot parallel to the standing end. Thus protecting and effectively halving the abrasion from the wraps under load on the standing line. I appreciate all the work from you and your team in getting this presentation out there on the line for people like me to discover.
Morning John, thank you so much for taking time and dropping a comment. Indeed it really is a good strategy very similar to what a Bimini Twist does overwrapping the loop lines. And yes you are spot in its very similar to a Trilene also. The main difference is the tuck is at end on Trilene and the tuck on Toit is “middle” knot. During testing it was incredible how much movement of the line was prevented by having a mid tuck, and with the added benefit of the standing end sharing the abrasion with tag end thru middle it all just came together. Yes it’s a lot of work but I enjoy it so much and hope one day people find some answers they looking for when wanting actual/reliable test data for knots. I normally do 2-3 videos per knot, “How to”, “Testing called WSFK” and a unwrapped where I look at some key elements why these knots perform or fail. You may enjoy it. Thanks again Tightlines.
This is very similar to a modified trileine knot. You double wrap the eye of the hook and you are just wrapping the main line twice. I will give this a try I mostly use mono for braid I use the Palomar knot.
Stumbled onto your channel this morning, and I’ve already rigged up a flipping jig with your knot. It was relatively easy to tie and definitely looks/feels strong. Can’t wait to try it out!
Welcome, thanks for trying it out. I am Certain once you got the knack of cinching it, you will find it’s a great knot, Tightlines good luck this weekend. Let us know how you got on?
Thanks for sharing all of this great and helpful information Warren. Much appreciated! I love your videos and the analysis. One thing to consider, when testing knots, please consider wearing safety glasses. I’d hate to see you injured when the lines break. You’re such a great test engineer and important source of information. Keep up the great contributions and stay safe!
Th as is Gregory, appreciate the feedback, my wife thinks I am intense, but I guess I just want to make sure the data is accurate. Agreed I wear my glasses 95% of the time when testing, especially with monofilament.
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things. Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does. Tightlines.
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things. Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does. Tightlines.
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things. Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does. Tightlines.
I've been using it after doing my own tests on how I personally tie knots. I haven't had any knot failures. I use as much pressure as I can to close this knot, well lubed is the key to this ultra strong knot. I haven't used anything else for nearly 18 months.
Hi Barry. Thank you so much for this. Really glad you enjoy the knot. Agreed Lubrication is key with this knot, but once it is locked down, that is game over.
Thank you very much for sharing this good knot method. I’ve been using a modified uni knot when connecting monofilament line to swivels. However, I was looking for another knot method because of the shortage of hard tightening when applying the modified uni knot to the monofilament line. However I will still use the modified uni knot when I use the PE line. There is no such problem when using PE line. After several experiments with this knot, I think the Toit knot is the best knot method when connecting the monofilament line to a swivel. It tightens smoothly and has good strength. Thank you so much. From Mr. Paek, SY, Korea.
Hi Mr Paek, Thank you for subscribing. Glad you have taken the time to test the knot for yourself against the the Uni Knot and agreed it is a great knot for Monofilament. Appreciate your feedback and kind words. Let us know how you get on. Tightlines.
Thanks for this. I have an engineering problem needing a short terminal knot for a 2.5 mm 12 strand Dyneema braid cable for the tension members within an exo-skeleton device. This looks really promising as the application is very space-restricted and what I need is the Dyneema equivalent to a swaged end on a wire cable. I've just tied a few in different grades of Dyneema (D12 SK78, D12 SK99 MAX). Tricky to form dry but wetting the Dyneema with water or, better, soapy water makes it simple. Looking forward to trying it in anger.
Thanks for taking an engineering approach to Knot-Tying. Effective Knot-Strength testing is something that until now has been lacking. Something you might be able to include is the relationship between the diameter of the line and the size/wire-gauge of the swivel/hook etc. The diameter of the capstan on the line-pull/knot testing machine is large enough to have no influence on the measured strength of the line. With PE line, the tested strength of a knot is significantly different when tied to a 2.0 hook compared to a small swivel for example. It would be very helpful if you could come up with some general rules? Maybe there is a relationship between line construction and knot-strength. The best line type for line-to-line connections may not be the best for connection to hooks and end-tackle?
Hi Patrick, thanks for the comments, funny you mention this. It something I am currently looking into and touched on this briefly with an in depth look at braid. I think braid struggles with knots due to the diameter of the individual filament also. We actually measured one filament at 18 microns, that is less than edge of a knife blade. Now imagine 100 of these cutting into themselves. You also make a great point regarding knot geometry. Every single movement the line has within a knot bears different forces within each individual knot, including as you mentioned the wire diameter in hooks and swivels. Especially with certain knots like the clinch and trilene, which rely on the pinch point at the eyelet to succeed and depending on the diameter of the wire this pressure will vary. Thank you for bringing this up. Have a nice weekend. Tightlines
I’ve been using it in the water quite a bit, works great. It’s more of an “at home” knot as opposed to on the kayak, but it’s not too bad on the yak either. Cinching it down can be a bit fiddly, and on fluoro which has a lot of memory, I’ve had a few fail and start over moments when it just didn’t want to form correctly. It’s an excellent knot, but not an easy or quick one compared to the many i know. Given enough time I’d use it on any critical application, but the SD jam is still what I use when time is a factor.
Agreed cinching is a little harder on thicker lines, I would suggest using a bar and a round nose pliers, especially if you are targeting trophy fish, . The knot really binds up so well once cinched, it won’t go anywhere. I like the SD jam knot. But just be cautious the knot has a pinch point at the top and the bottom of the knot. Monofilament is a big no no for this knot, but Fluorocarbon with its hardness really holds up well and in fact is in top three knots on my testing charts. Tightlines
I'm going to give it a try for sure. I do believe though that strong knots like these do pose the problem of being too strong when using them on a leader. The leader knot should always be stronger so you don't lose your entire leader. I will probably stick with the double davy knot for most of my fishing, but the toit knot may be the best knot for salmon.
Super easy knot to tie, Ive been using the spangler 🪢 , it has proven to be a great knot , but im going to give this a go this week snapper fishing 🎣- Its snapper season in 4 days :)
Never thought I would wake up and learn about a new knot. Added to my list, appreciate that. Sounds like you are heading for a great weekend, Tightlines. Let me know how you get on with the knot?
Ok I ran it through it's paces from 8-80lb test in both flourocarbon and braid. The knots where tied to eye bolts for testing. Line lengths where only 24" from eyebolt to eyebolt for maximum strain on the knot. Every single test, to my amazement, the line failed everytime in the same spot, almost dead center middle, 12" up from each eyebolt.! Not once did the knot fail. They only other knot to achieve the same results was the double pitzen! Impressive knot indeed!
Thank you for taking the time to test the knot, agreed I have tested this knot in every single line class and it walks over all the knots we have tested in our WSFK video series. The secret source is it locks the line at the front end and in the rear and the double line coming out the rear shared the pressure of the wraps protecting the mainline. If a knot moves internally it’s done, this knot eliminates line movement. Tightlines
Hi from South Africa. I have tried your knot on 80lb braid and 90lb mono. It is a bit of tugging and pulling needed on the 80lb mono but I really like this knot. I think it is great for snoek lines. When you get a chance perhaps you could try making a swivel type knot for lures and dollies.
Howzit Don, glad to have more Saffa’s dropping in on the channel. Thank you for kind words, let me know how you get on with snook lines. Just a reminder you only need 3 wraps up and 3 down for Mono, extra saliva doesn’t hurt also. I will be looking at loop knots in near future, and I have a couple of ideas for a variant based on the Toit knot. Tightlines. I used to do a lot of snook fishing out of Fish Hoek, Kalk Bay and Smits, and it always ended up with a few being stolen by local seals. Fun times.
@@toitfishing The snoek are not what the used to be a few years ago. People don't believe us when we tell them we caught 654 snoek with 4 men on board at Robben Island. But hey, when you are on the water all is good. Thanks for all the effort on the knots I will watch your progress with keen interest,
Great knot! Looking forward to: 1. The strongest knot for forming a loop (as for a loop to loop connection, or a snell loop) 2. The strongest line to line knot 3. The strongest hook loop knot for a hook
Morning Brian, firstly thank you for taking your time and taking a look and commenting on my a few of my videos. Terminal knots is at its infancy, there are so many doubles versions to look at and I am fairly confident all current leaderboards will move a lot. Loop knots is on my list and will be looked at next. Tightlines and thx got kind words.
Hi Marcus, glad you enjoyed the content. Typically I release 2 videos for any particular knot a "How To" and a "Tested" video which falls under the World Strongest Knot series, where I aim to test every single knot there is, and their are loads :). When I do the "How To" videos I tend to give a suggested wraps according to my knowledge of that particular knot when I do the video. When I do the "Worlds Strongest knot " I will tell you exactly how strong that knot is for various line types and various line thicknesses, I also tell you exactly how many wraps the knot required to prevent slipping for those particular tests that were undertaken. Take a look at a "Worlds Strongest Knot" episode and let me know what you think, there is a lot of data in there so definitely get a bru when you are watching. Thank you for watching and thx for your support. Tightlines.
The first video of this knot showed four wraps and I have been using it that way without any knot failures in nylon and fluorocarbon monofilament lines up to 50lb. It's nice to see that three wraps works perfectly as it will be easier to cinch up this way. I'll be using it this way from now on.
Hi Brian. Apologies if that was slightly confusing. Yes 4 wraps on Braid and 3 wraps on Fluoro and Mono. Typically on all my How to videos which are released 1st, I give my best guess at exactly how many wraps especially if I have not tested the knot before hand. On the WSFK/testing videos all the wraps are shown on the charts, the amount of wraps will be backed up by the testing, etc. Also when I refer to wraps it’s basically the amount of wraps within a given sequence of the knot. Like on the Toit knot for mono for example, it’s one wrap around eyelet, then three wraps up, then tuck thru then three counter wraps. Hopefully that helps. Tightlines.
@@toitfishing The first video that I saw had four wraps around the main line then a further four on the Uni knot type loop on monofilament. I didn't find it confusing at all, I just assumed that further testing had shown that three wraps is sufficient. The three wraps will definitely make it easier. Good to see that you are testing so much against other knots, it saves the rest of us from needing to do so.
@@toitfishing I just found the video that I first saw the Toit knot. They definitely state 4 wraps but they are counting the first full wrap as two wraps. They also fail to make the point of ensuring the tag end is behind the main line. Maybe you need to comment on their video to set things straight. Regz Fishing ua-cam.com/video/gUR18LeNPes/v-deo.html
It may be worth sticking to the Trilene knot, if the most important thing for you is tag end placement. I did a bunch of testing on Trilene, it’s really good on thin lines, but falls short on thicker lines. Take a look if you have time. Tightlines
I've been spooled 2 days on a row, both times while tightening drag, hook taken and line looks stretched / unraveled. Trying this one on all my rods. BTW. Your testing is so far and beyond any other channels. Hope u take off, only thing I'd recommend is maybe a better mic while talking, and maybe use a green screen so u can swap out different backgrounds and put a more algorithm friendly picture for the videos. You should be soaring in views with this content. Keep on keeping on.
Hi Valvinator. Thx for reaching out. Yes the knot locks down well and is incredibly strong. There is a series of videos I do titled “World Strongest Fishing Knot”, WSFK they have all the testing in, in depth reviews and also tips and tricks worth trying that improved knot strength. Hope that helps have a great weekend. Tightlines
Hi, I did look at this briefly, the secret sauce to the Toit knot is that tuck thru under the wrap by the hook or swivel eyelet and the body of the knot with the over wrap technique, the latter detail could be tied in a line to line connection but it would be missing the eyelet tuck which jams the line under load, this is where the knot sets itself apart. That detail would be difficult to replicate without a hardened eyelet or connection to tie too. I will at some point invest in some time trying it out, but this may not be for a while apologies for that. Based on what I have tested and seeing how these line to line connections behave I would use a combination of tricks to achieve the strongest line to line connection, if you watch my improved GT knot and the Slim Beauty knot and use the 2 aspects of these 2 knots to tie your line that will achieve the strongest knot I can think of currently. Basically a over wrapped figure of eight knot into a overwrapped clinch knot using a double piece of braid. I need to come up with a name for that knot also, but these two details in those 2 different knots will achieve a really strong knot. You would need to play around with wrap counts tho. I think a good starting point will be 2 wraps around figure eight and 5 up and down on clinch. Hope that helps, Tightlines.
Thanks for reaching out. I am yet tie the Chain knot in decent quantity to have an factual opinion on it. I have got this knot on my to do list. This is only my opinion,not based on actual testing. I am slightly concerned on the standing end exiting out the back of the knot on its own. Typically when a knot is put under load the knot typically tightens at the front and the back of the knot. So as the line is cinched during use the standing end is compromised as it has only a single line exiting at back of knot. This all the forces and line pressure is exerted solely on one strand of monofilament. Tightlines and thanks for watching.
Stephen Graham, thx for watching. No I have not tested this knot in 6lb tippet or smaller, I will be looking at terminal knots in 10lb or less at some point. Currently testing only includes line class as small as 10lb and various increments up to 100lb. Tightlines, I would be interested to know how you get on?
@@toitfishing The problem is I can't find testing of small tippet anywhere. Will be interested when you do so. We freshwater fly fishers need more info
@@toitfishing Oh, and by the way when I am trying to get mono through the eye of a size 24 midge I have enough trouble getting through once--for now will stick with a clinch or Pitzen but will try tying your know on size 12 or bigger flies.
@Stephen Graham Hi Stephen, your statement is very valid there is not much data at all really for knot testing in general, and as you mentioned none for 6lb tippet. Its on my to do list, I will let you know when we start to look at this data. Tight Lines
Welcome Rakesh, I have done a video series called “World Strongest Knot” please take a look. I have done a few knots so far where I test these knots on Tensile test machine. I have moved on to line to line connections for testing but will be going back to Terminal knots at some point this year. I have a video for the Toit knot so take a look when you have some spare time. Tightlines
Hi Warren, thank you, I like the work you're doing. I like the Toit knot, whether it's yours or whether it's an existing knot but i didn't know anyway (btw if it's an old nod knot e what's it called and why isn't it used?). I share the characteristics that make this knot a good knot but I have a strong doubt for fluorocarbon. After clinching it down the body of the knot slip down but doesn't jam up again the hook eyelet easly. You must tight real hard. First the standing end and then the tag end exit. For Fluorocarbon it is known that this can cause burning and weakening of the wire. I am afraid that even lubricating fluorocarbon well can heat and weaken inside the knot How to avoid this risk?. Marco
Hi Marco, thank you for feedback very informative and this all helps in development. It’s not in my business interest to copy or pretend I have designed or said something I have not done. Like you said if anyone does challenge my knot design please add a link to UA-cam video, or page number of book reference or even the name of the knot I have copied, and I would gladly redo/refilm with an apology to the designer or UA-cam creator. But I know I have not done this. Yes agreed on the Fluorocarbon front, this applies to all knot with fluorocarbon, you will also find, that these lines all differ in suppleness/stiffness, hence the more supple the easier it will form. Also I do use a bar to tighten most of my knots. There is also an additional tip I can share here is that I find it really helpful to actually tighten the knot as much as you can in your mouth with saliva all around it. This ensure there is a lot of lubricant all over the line and within the knot. You can also try add 2 wraps up and 2 down or even 3 wraps up an two down then test it for that specific line type, all lines vary slightly with knot wraps or amount of wraps. This will alleviate the “burning” you refer to also. Thanks again for your feedback and let me know how you get on. Also take a look at my lubrication video part one this may shed some light on things for you also. Tightlines.
Yes we have tested it, this should be released in about a weeks time. Watch this space. The tag exit is problematic on a lot of knots and how well it is secured make a big difference.
you wrapped it 4 times not 3 ,the first wrap you went around twice, anyways is this basically an improvement of the trilene knot? and who came up with the trilene? i did this knot several times and some times it breaks on the line but most times it breaks on the knot even though i made sure to keep it consistent perhaps ill try it with 4 wraps and it may look and be like yours but yes its difficult doing it with 8lb mono
Morning Peter. Kind words, thanks for watching and subscribing. Yeah the UA-cam algorithm is a tough nut to crack, maybe one day.🤣 Tightlines and have a great weekend.
Thanks for the kind words, the Trilene is a good knot, very similar indeed, it just gives the tag an additional area to be clamped, basically giving the line no room for movement and protects the standing end at the back of knot as abrasion is shared. Tightlines.
Hello Warren - Murray from Zambia here - I watched the strength tests and incredible to see this knot come out tops 👍 would you know whether starting the uni with a loop through the eye (just like the Toit) improves its strength?
Hi Murray. indeed I am confident this will definitely improve the uni knot. But just remember the uni knot will always have movement as there is not any area in the knot where the line is locked in place. On thicker lines this will not be a problem but movement and stretch is definitely an issue on smaller lines as the line stretches out. This can be seen if you compare the Trilene and the Uni Knot test results. Tightlines.
Hi Alex, appreciate the feedback, the initial wraps is 3 and the secondary wraps or overwrapping is 3. So yes in total 6 wraps. Typically when I refer to wraps its the continuous amount of wraps within a sequence of the knot tying. With this knot it has a few different details to follow prior to the Secondary wraps being formed, hence I refer to it as three wraps. If we were talking about all the wraps including the wrap around the eyelet it would be 7 I suppose in total. Thanks for raising this and appreciate the feedback, let me know how you get on with the knot, would appreciate the feedback, especially with your keen eye. Have a great weekend. Tigthlines
Unless I am very much mistaken you clearly tied 4 wraps on the initial demonstration using blue monofilament yet the sixty second tutorial shows only three wraps on the clear. Like the knot a lot by the way and will be out with a spring balance and test to destuction on 25lb & 18lb Maxima Ultragreen I will be using fishing the Skeena river in British Colombia for King Salmon. Not nearly as scientific as your testing methods but will winnow the wheat from the chaff regarding knots for flies and svivels!
Thanks Mark….. I have not fished with crickets in about 35 years….. I remember catching these with my dad once when we went on a Bass trip in Pretoria, I think I had more fun catching the crickets and camping than fishing that weekend. Take care and thx for the support.
Hey Shawn, fair play… the San Diego knot is really really good knot, I did some testing on that knot in Fluorocarbon it performed really really well. Thx for feedback.
I grew up as a kid catching those things, my best friend dad had a rubber duck we would run out in season and catch those things. I love catching them they fight so hard and the taste for me is probably my top 3 fish easily if not top 2. I used to work at a Fishmonger when I was at Uni and the recipe for grilling them would knock your socks off. We would just call them Yellowtail. They were fussy on the bite tho, when they were feeding it was easy but often we would drive over shoals 200-300 metres long and not one fish would even feed. The best tactic with them if you can resist lifting it in the boat is to leave one on a bungee line under the boat and you will have non stop action as it draws other inquisitive fish in to feed, give it a try. Catching them with poppers on top water is awesome also. Tightlines
this knot is unnecessarily complicated. just tie a trilene knot (which is the first part of the toit knot), wrapping it 4 times. the trilene knot is indestructible and will not slip at all under load. i've practiced it countless times with several different lines.
Hi Jeff, thx for the feedback, the Trilene knot is a great knot, if you are good at tying that, I would not change. I have done a lot of testing on the Trilene knot that you may be interested in, on thin lines it’s exceptionally strong. If you have time take a look at the WSFK episode where I test it. Tightlines and have a nice weekend.
Thx for the feedback Jeff, the Mono line at the end is 100Lb 1.0mm line so when i do put alot of force on the pullers it will slightly deform the line with the excessive force around the diameter of the pullers. I think on lighter lines you will have less of a problem. Tightlines and Thx for watching.
I fish the Lake of Okeechobee in Fl. ,I have been looking for a knot to replace the Palomar knot fishing in heavy cover flipping different lures. This looks like a well thought out design and seems to look pretty strong. I will add it to my fishing list to experiment while on the water and will give you an update on my experience with this knot, I'm pretty excited to see how it would handle in short hand to hand combat with some trophy fishes in Florida. Let you know in a month , Jose Santiago .
Great in-depth description. Thank you Jose. Tight lines, tag us in your next bass photo on Instagram. Fished Lake O once before, had a few of those those long thin garfish follow my lure a few times, they looked kinda cool, kinda hard to hook tho on the lure I was using.
Hey Jose, how are you getting on with the knot? Tightlines.
Yea let us know 👍🏼
Hello Warren - Murray from Zambia here - I watched the strength tests and incredible to see this knot come out tops 👍 would you know whether starting the uni with a loop through the eye (just like the Toit) improves its strength?
@@toitfishing I liked the looks of your knot so I tested your knot against my knot with 50 lb braid and your knot broke at 28.2 lbs. while my knot tested at 48.4 lbs. My knot The Fish-N-Fool knot was crowned the worlds strongest knot on the "Knot Wars" tv Show back in 2009. Maybe you need to test my knot as I don't have as good of testing equipment as you do. I use 5 turns on mono or fluoro and 7 on braid
I have been useing the tout knot since I found your UA-cam video. Never had it fail. Best knot ever. Thanks.
Morning Randy, Happy Easter, yes it’s a great knot. It really does snug down very tightly
Greetings from Turkey. I am Kadri Ağralı. I learned this knot two years ago by watching your videos and I have been using this knot in all my hunting for two years. I have experienced a lot so far. It is much stronger and easier to do than the knots I used before. I have great respect for the work you do. Thank you very much for this reason.
Hi Kadri, thank you so much for taking the time to give feedback on the Toit Knot. Yes it is truly a strong knot, I am hoping to get back onto the knot testing this year. Take care.
I decided to give this knot at try after being a devout Trilene knot user. My issue with the Trilene knot was that I was having issues with it not cinching down properly at times. With that said, a good friend introduced me to this channel & knot. I took a leap of faith and I added this knot to my arsenal with had zero issues with it not cinching down and it was hella strong. Thanks Warren!!! This is now my go to knot.
I like how the main line exits the knot straight out, opposed to others at an angle that can break at that stressed point…. 🤔 going to use your design from here on out! Thanks mate…
@@mikemurphy9879 thx Mike appreciate the feedback. It definitely tightens down very well at front and rear of the knot. Tightlines
Best knot day in day out I’ve ever used.
Amazing work !
Appreciate the feedback. Agreed this not really does perform well on all line types.
Brilliant! Thank you for spending the time and paying the dues. Aloha!
Appreciate the feedback, would love to do some fishing in Hawaii, the GT fishery looks immense.
So, okay, it really gets my goat when people preface their opening sentence with either of these, so many thanks for editing them out. Nice knot too, by the way. Raymondo.
Warren's sunburn is awesome.
😂🤣, one of the 2 days we had sun in the U.K.
Coming form someone that doesn’t know 1 fishing knot I need to learn at least one that’s easy for me and doesn’t come undone when I get a snag or a fish on the hook his looks to be the end of my search thanks
Hey Django Wlango....Love the name by the way. If you learn this knot, I am certain it will not fail you. I am getting a lot of great feedback on the knot and many people are saying its breaking nowhere near the knot. Its is slightly difficult to cinch but a little practice and loads of saliva sorts this out no problem. It really does stop all the movement within the knot.
Tightlines and tag us on any future catches online.
Awesome, I’ll try it. Love from Hawaii
That's a solid knot right there! easy to tie on 20lb braid to tiny SPRO swivels, a bit more fiddly with fluoro but it's not particularly difficult. I look forward to trying it out on the water tomorrow. I'm in San diego, so I kinda have to use the jam, and thnks to your channel, I'm now using 3 turns on it, works as well as ever. I don't see how your knot could ever be tied faster than the jam, but it's absolutely rock solid, you can feel there's no nonsense there.
Thank you Nick. SDJ is perfect for Fluoro, just watch the pinch points on the SDJ and the Pitzen, they both suffer with pinch point issues on Monofilament. Tightlines
I want to see you test Jacks Knot 2.0. So far it is a really impressive knot that I have found on UA-cam. I’m going to try your knot out and give you feed back.
With an IQ in the 99th percentile it's rare that something impresses me. This elegant little knot however has done just that ✔
Basically it's a trilene but the added act of wrapping the hanger with the tag sends the tag up the centre of the knot parallel to the standing end.
Thus protecting and effectively halving the abrasion from the wraps under load on the standing line.
I appreciate all the work from you and your team in getting this presentation out there on the line for people like me to discover.
Morning John, thank you so much for taking time and dropping a comment. Indeed it really is a good strategy very similar to what a Bimini Twist does overwrapping the loop lines. And yes you are spot in its very similar to a Trilene also. The main difference is the tuck is at end on Trilene and the tuck on Toit is “middle” knot. During testing it was incredible how much movement of the line was prevented by having a mid tuck, and with the added benefit of the standing end sharing the abrasion with tag end thru middle it all just came together.
Yes it’s a lot of work but I enjoy it so much and hope one day people find some answers they looking for when wanting actual/reliable test data for knots. I normally do 2-3 videos per knot, “How to”, “Testing called WSFK” and a unwrapped where I look at some key elements why these knots perform or fail. You may enjoy it.
Thanks again Tightlines.
This is very similar to a modified trileine knot. You double wrap the eye of the hook and you are just wrapping the main line twice. I will give this a try I mostly use mono for braid I use the Palomar knot.
Stumbled onto your channel this morning, and I’ve already rigged up a flipping jig with your knot. It was relatively easy to tie and definitely looks/feels strong. Can’t wait to try it out!
Welcome, thanks for trying it out. I am
Certain once you got the knack of cinching it, you will find it’s a great knot, Tightlines good luck this weekend. Let us know how you got on?
Thanks for sharing all of this great and helpful information Warren. Much appreciated! I love your videos and the analysis.
One thing to consider, when testing knots, please consider wearing safety glasses. I’d hate to see you injured when the lines break. You’re such a great test engineer and important source of information. Keep up the great contributions and stay safe!
Th as is Gregory, appreciate the feedback, my wife thinks I am intense, but I guess I just want to make sure the data is accurate. Agreed I wear my glasses 95% of the time when testing, especially with monofilament.
Ive had problems with braid in this knot(breaking way before it should,
OMG...
I am really like this channel and this knot too.
thank you for your clearly explained, easy to understand..
Cheers Toit...
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things.
Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does.
Tightlines.
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things.
Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does.
Tightlines.
Hi James, thx for taking your personal time to look at some of my content, appreciate your support, comments and feedback. That knot “Toit knot” is really worth investing your time in, it really does push the boundaries on the knot strength side of things.
Typical I do 3 videos on each fishing knot. A “How To” showing you how to tie the knot. A “World Strongest Fishing knot episode” where I test the knots on many many combinations and go thru the results. And then a “Overview” where I look at the good and the bad stuff of the knot and explain why it performs the way it does.
Tightlines.
I've been using it after doing my own tests on how I personally tie knots. I haven't had any knot failures. I use as much pressure as I can to close this knot, well lubed is the key to this ultra strong knot. I haven't used anything else for nearly 18 months.
Hi Barry. Thank you so much for this. Really glad you enjoy the knot. Agreed Lubrication is key with this knot, but once it is locked down, that is game over.
Aloha. I live in Hawaii and fish a lot. Will try this knot and let you k kw how it goes.
Tag us in some of catches, Tightlines
Let us know how you get on.
Thank you very much for sharing this good knot method. I’ve been using a modified uni knot when connecting monofilament line to swivels. However, I was looking for another knot method because of the shortage of hard tightening when applying the modified uni knot to the monofilament line. However I will still use the modified uni knot when I use the PE line. There is no such problem when using PE line. After several experiments with this knot, I think the Toit knot is the best knot method when connecting the monofilament line to a swivel. It tightens smoothly and has good strength. Thank you so much.
From Mr. Paek, SY, Korea.
Hi Mr Paek, Thank you for subscribing. Glad you have taken the time to test the knot for yourself against the the Uni Knot and agreed it is a great knot for Monofilament. Appreciate your feedback and kind words. Let us know how you get on. Tightlines.
This looks great. I’m excited to give it a try.
Hi Mark, kind words thank you, let me know how you get on? It’s a great knot, looks good also.😉 Tightlines.
A beautiful knot! Thank you for sharing
Hi Ricardo glad you like it, let me know how you get on. Thank you for your support. Tight Lines.
Thanks for this. I have an engineering problem needing a short terminal knot for a 2.5 mm 12 strand Dyneema braid cable for the tension members within an exo-skeleton device. This looks really promising as the application is very space-restricted and what I need is the Dyneema equivalent to a swaged end on a wire cable. I've just tied a few in different grades of Dyneema (D12 SK78, D12 SK99 MAX). Tricky to form dry but wetting the Dyneema with water or, better, soapy water makes it simple. Looking forward to trying it in anger.
Thanks for taking an engineering approach to Knot-Tying. Effective Knot-Strength testing is something that until now has been lacking. Something you might be able to include is the relationship between the diameter of the line and the size/wire-gauge of the swivel/hook etc. The diameter of the capstan on the line-pull/knot testing machine is large enough to have no influence on the measured strength of the line. With PE line, the tested strength of a knot is significantly different when tied to a 2.0 hook compared to a small swivel for example. It would be very helpful if you could come up with some general rules? Maybe there is a relationship between line construction and knot-strength. The best line type for line-to-line connections may not be the best for connection to hooks and end-tackle?
Hi Patrick, thanks for the comments, funny you mention this. It something I am currently looking into and touched on this briefly with an in depth look at braid. I think braid struggles with knots due to the diameter of the individual filament also. We actually measured one filament at 18 microns, that is less than edge of a knife blade. Now imagine 100 of these cutting into themselves.
You also make a great point regarding knot geometry. Every single movement the line has within a knot bears different forces within each individual knot, including as you mentioned the wire diameter in hooks and swivels. Especially with certain knots like the clinch and trilene, which rely on the pinch point at the eyelet to succeed and depending on the diameter of the wire this pressure will vary.
Thank you for bringing this up. Have a nice weekend. Tightlines
Very nice video. Congratulations.
Thank you, and you are very welcome.
I’ve been using it in the water quite a bit, works great. It’s more of an “at home” knot as opposed to on the kayak, but it’s not too bad on the yak either. Cinching it down can be a bit fiddly, and on fluoro which has a lot of memory, I’ve had a few fail and start over moments when it just didn’t want to form correctly. It’s an excellent knot, but not an easy or quick one compared to the many i know. Given enough time I’d use it on any critical application, but the SD jam is still what I use when time is a factor.
Agreed cinching is a little harder on thicker lines, I would suggest using a bar and a round nose pliers, especially if you are targeting trophy fish, . The knot really binds up so well once cinched, it won’t go anywhere. I like the SD jam knot. But just be cautious the knot has a pinch point at the top and the bottom of the knot. Monofilament is a big no no for this knot, but Fluorocarbon with its hardness really holds up well and in fact is in top three knots on my testing charts. Tightlines
I'm going to give it a try for sure. I do believe though that strong knots like these do pose the problem of being too strong when using them on a leader. The leader knot should always be stronger so you don't lose your entire leader. I will probably stick with the double davy knot for most of my fishing, but the toit knot may be the best knot for salmon.
Super easy knot to tie, Ive been using the spangler 🪢 , it has proven to be a great knot , but im going to give this a go this week snapper fishing 🎣- Its snapper season in 4 days :)
Never thought I would wake up and learn about a new knot. Added to my list, appreciate that. Sounds like you are heading for a great weekend, Tightlines. Let me know how you get on with the knot?
Ok I ran it through it's paces from 8-80lb test in both flourocarbon and braid.
The knots where tied to eye bolts for testing. Line lengths where only 24" from eyebolt to eyebolt for maximum strain on the knot.
Every single test, to my amazement, the line failed everytime in the same spot, almost dead center middle, 12" up from each eyebolt.! Not once did the knot fail. They only other knot to achieve the same results was the double pitzen!
Impressive knot indeed!
Thank you for taking the time to test the knot, agreed I have tested this knot in every single line class and it walks over all the knots we have tested in our WSFK video series. The secret source is it locks the line at the front end and in the rear and the double line coming out the rear shared the pressure of the wraps protecting the mainline. If a knot moves internally it’s done, this knot eliminates line movement. Tightlines
Hi from South Africa. I have tried your knot on 80lb braid and 90lb mono. It is a bit of tugging and pulling needed on the 80lb mono but I really like this knot.
I think it is great for snoek lines. When you get a chance perhaps you could try making a swivel type knot for lures and dollies.
Howzit Don, glad to have more Saffa’s dropping in on the channel. Thank you for kind words, let me know how you get on with snook lines. Just a reminder you only need 3 wraps up and 3 down for Mono, extra saliva doesn’t hurt also.
I will be looking at loop knots in near future, and I have a couple of ideas for a variant based on the Toit knot. Tightlines.
I used to do a lot of snook fishing out of Fish Hoek, Kalk Bay and Smits, and it always ended up with a few being stolen by local seals. Fun times.
@@toitfishing The snoek are not what the used to be a few years ago. People don't believe us when we tell them we caught 654 snoek with 4 men on board at Robben Island.
But hey, when you are on the water all is good.
Thanks for all the effort on the knots I will watch your progress with keen interest,
Great knot!
Looking forward to:
1. The strongest knot for forming a loop (as for a loop to loop connection, or a snell loop)
2. The strongest line to line knot
3. The strongest hook loop knot for a hook
Morning Brian, firstly thank you for taking your time and taking a look and commenting on my a few of my videos. Terminal knots is at its infancy, there are so many doubles versions to look at and I am fairly confident all current leaderboards will move a lot. Loop knots is on my list and will be looked at next. Tightlines and thx got kind words.
Worlds fair knot
Yes this is a good knot, I have got this on my list to test, will keep you posted.
Maybe it’s just me but I count 4 wraps each time, new subscriber here, good stuff sir.
Hi Marcus, glad you enjoyed the content. Typically I release 2 videos for any particular knot a "How To" and a "Tested" video which falls under the World Strongest Knot series, where I aim to test every single knot there is, and their are loads :). When I do the "How To" videos I tend to give a suggested wraps according to my knowledge of that particular knot when I do the video. When I do the "Worlds Strongest knot " I will tell you exactly how strong that knot is for various line types and various line thicknesses, I also tell you exactly how many wraps the knot required to prevent slipping for those particular tests that were undertaken. Take a look at a "Worlds Strongest Knot" episode and let me know what you think, there is a lot of data in there so definitely get a bru when you are watching. Thank you for watching and thx for your support. Tightlines.
The first video of this knot showed four wraps and I have been using it that way without any knot failures in nylon and fluorocarbon monofilament lines up to 50lb. It's nice to see that three wraps works perfectly as it will be easier to cinch up this way. I'll be using it this way from now on.
Hi Brian. Apologies if that was slightly confusing. Yes 4 wraps on Braid and 3 wraps on Fluoro and Mono. Typically on all my How to videos which are released 1st, I give my best guess at exactly how many wraps especially if I have not tested the knot before hand. On the WSFK/testing videos all the wraps are shown on the charts, the amount of wraps will be backed up by the testing, etc. Also when I refer to wraps it’s basically the amount of wraps within a given sequence of the knot. Like on the Toit knot for mono for example, it’s one wrap around eyelet, then three wraps up, then tuck thru then three counter wraps. Hopefully that helps. Tightlines.
@@toitfishing The first video that I saw had four wraps around the main line then a further four on the Uni knot type loop on monofilament. I didn't find it confusing at all, I just assumed that further testing had shown that three wraps is sufficient. The three wraps will definitely make it easier. Good to see that you are testing so much against other knots, it saves the rest of us from needing to do so.
@@brianbrigg57 kind words, thanks for your support.
@@toitfishing I just found the video that I first saw the Toit knot. They definitely state 4 wraps but they are counting the first full wrap as two wraps. They also fail to make the point of ensuring the tag end is behind the main line. Maybe you need to comment on their video to set things straight.
Regz Fishing ua-cam.com/video/gUR18LeNPes/v-deo.html
@@brianbrigg57 thx for letting me know, I might stop a comment on the video. Appreciate that, there’s that old saying Devil in the detail. Thx Brian
Looks very strong, but I like the tag end to exit back out instead of up the standing line. Weeds won't get snagged as much.
It may be worth sticking to the Trilene knot, if the most important thing for you is tag end placement. I did a bunch of testing on Trilene, it’s really good on thin lines, but falls short on thicker lines. Take a look if you have time. Tightlines
I've been spooled 2 days on a row, both times while tightening drag, hook taken and line looks stretched / unraveled. Trying this one on all my rods. BTW. Your testing is so far and beyond any other channels. Hope u take off, only thing I'd recommend is maybe a better mic while talking, and maybe use a green screen so u can swap out different backgrounds and put a more algorithm friendly picture for the videos. You should be soaring in views with this content. Keep on keeping on.
Hello, looks like a very strong knot. Would you do a test on your gizmo there to show its strength/breaking point? Thank you
Hi Valvinator. Thx for reaching out. Yes the knot locks down well and is incredibly strong. There is a series of videos I do titled “World Strongest Fishing Knot”, WSFK they have all the testing in, in depth reviews and also tips and tricks worth trying that improved knot strength. Hope that helps have a great weekend.
Tightlines
Have you ever tested a toit to toit connection knot? I would love to know the outcome so I can use it on my 8 day trip coming up.
Hi, I did look at this briefly, the secret sauce to the Toit knot is that tuck thru under the wrap by the hook or swivel eyelet and the body of the knot with the over wrap technique, the latter detail could be tied in a line to line connection but it would be missing the eyelet tuck which jams the line under load, this is where the knot sets itself apart. That detail would be difficult to replicate without a hardened eyelet or connection to tie too.
I will at some point invest in some time trying it out, but this may not be for a while apologies for that.
Based on what I have tested and seeing how these line to line connections behave I would use a combination of tricks to achieve the strongest line to line connection, if you watch my improved GT knot and the Slim Beauty knot and use the 2 aspects of these 2 knots to tie your line that will achieve the strongest knot I can think of currently.
Basically a over wrapped figure of eight knot into a overwrapped clinch knot using a double piece of braid. I need to come up with a name for that knot also, but these two details in those 2 different knots will achieve a really strong knot. You would need to play around with wrap counts tho. I think a good starting point will be 2 wraps around figure eight and 5 up and down on clinch.
Hope that helps, Tightlines.
Awesome! What is the strogest chain knot or the toit knot??
Thanks for reaching out. I am yet tie the Chain knot in decent quantity to have an factual opinion on it. I have got this knot on my to do list.
This is only my opinion,not based on actual testing. I am slightly concerned on the standing end exiting out the back of the knot on its own. Typically when a knot is put under load the knot typically tightens at the front and the back of the knot. So as the line is cinched during use the standing end is compromised as it has only a single line exiting at back of knot. This all the forces and line pressure is exerted solely on one strand of monofilament.
Tightlines and thanks for watching.
Have you tried this know on 5x - 7x (less than 6 lb). Pretty tough to tie this knot in small tippet
Stephen Graham, thx for watching. No I have not tested this knot in 6lb tippet or smaller, I will be looking at terminal knots in 10lb or less at some point. Currently testing only includes line class as small as 10lb and various increments up to 100lb. Tightlines, I would be interested to know how you get on?
@@toitfishing The problem is I can't find testing of small tippet anywhere. Will be interested when you do so. We freshwater fly fishers need more info
@@toitfishing Oh, and by the way when I am trying to get mono through the eye of a size 24 midge I have enough trouble getting through once--for now will stick with a clinch or Pitzen but will try tying your know on size 12 or bigger flies.
@Stephen Graham Hi Stephen, your statement is very valid there is not much data at all really for knot testing in general, and as you mentioned none for 6lb tippet. Its on my to do list, I will let you know when we start to look at this data. Tight Lines
Awesome knot.... what's ure view on tying braid with this knot...to swevil. Thanks
Welcome Rakesh, I have done a video series called “World Strongest Knot” please take a look. I have done a few knots so far where I test these knots on Tensile test machine. I have moved on to line to line connections for testing but will be going back to Terminal knots at some point this year. I have a video for the Toit knot so take a look when you have some spare time. Tightlines
Hi Warren, thank you, I like the work you're doing.
I like the Toit knot, whether it's yours or whether it's an existing knot but i didn't know anyway (btw if it's an old nod knot e what's it called and why isn't it used?).
I share the characteristics that make this knot a good knot but I have a strong doubt for fluorocarbon. After clinching it down the body of the knot slip down but doesn't jam up again the hook eyelet easly. You must tight real hard. First the standing end and then the tag end exit. For Fluorocarbon it is known that this can cause burning and weakening of the wire.
I am afraid that even lubricating fluorocarbon well can heat and weaken inside the knot How to avoid this risk?.
Marco
Hi Marco, thank you for feedback very informative and this all helps in development. It’s not in my business interest to copy or pretend I have designed or said something I have not done. Like you said if anyone does challenge my knot design please add a link to UA-cam video, or page number of book reference or even the name of the knot I have copied, and I would gladly redo/refilm with an apology to the designer or UA-cam creator. But I know I have not done this.
Yes agreed on the Fluorocarbon front, this applies to all knot with fluorocarbon, you will also find, that these lines all differ in suppleness/stiffness, hence the more supple the easier it will form. Also I do use a bar to tighten most of my knots. There is also an additional tip I can share here is that I find it really helpful to actually tighten the knot as much as you can in your mouth with saliva all around it. This ensure there is a lot of lubricant all over the line and within the knot. You can also try add 2 wraps up and 2 down or even 3 wraps up an two down then test it for that specific line type, all lines vary slightly with knot wraps or amount of wraps. This will alleviate the “burning” you refer to also.
Thanks again for your feedback and let me know how you get on. Also take a look at my lubrication video part one this may shed some light on things for you also. Tightlines.
Have you tested this knot yet? Great idea with securing the tag thru the entire length of knot. Gonna try it out this weekend.
Yes we have tested it, this should be released in about a weeks time. Watch this space. The tag exit is problematic on a lot of knots and how well it is secured make a big difference.
you wrapped it 4 times not 3 ,the first wrap you went around twice, anyways is this basically an improvement of the trilene knot? and who came up with the trilene? i did this knot several times and some times it breaks on the line but most times it breaks on the knot even though i made sure to keep it consistent perhaps ill try it with 4 wraps and it may look and be like yours but yes its difficult doing it with 8lb mono
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Morning Peter. Kind words, thanks for watching and subscribing. Yeah the UA-cam algorithm is a tough nut to crack, maybe one day.🤣 Tightlines and have a great weekend.
Thank you for sharing sir.
does Toit Knot have little difference in strength from the Bimini Twist?
/i will try that on a coarse setup?
Hi Phillip, great, let me know how you get on. Tight Lines.
So Toit knot is Trilene knot with an Uni knot as finisher on tag end. And it was developed for 7 years. It took some time, not gonna lie.
For 10#-16# fishing line, how many wraps would you suggest??
3 and 3 is the secret number, I have a testing video that runs alongside this. Tightlines
So an improved version of the trilene? Looks great.
Thanks for the kind words, the Trilene is a good knot, very similar indeed, it just gives the tag an additional area to be clamped, basically giving the line no room for movement and protects the standing end at the back of knot as abrasion is shared. Tightlines.
@@toitfishing Thanks Boet!
06:30 Knot looks nice, how good is it?
We will be releasing the WSK Episode 6 within a week. Stay tuned.
Is just a grinner knot with two passes through the eye first, like an improved half blood does.
Hello Warren - Murray from Zambia here - I watched the strength tests and incredible to see this knot come out tops 👍 would you know whether starting the uni with a loop through the eye (just like the Toit) improves its strength?
Hi Murray. indeed I am confident this will definitely improve the uni knot. But just remember the uni knot will always have movement as there is not any area in the knot where the line is locked in place. On thicker lines this will not be a problem but movement and stretch is definitely an issue on smaller lines as the line stretches out. This can be seen if you compare the Trilene and the Uni Knot test results. Tightlines.
I counted 6 wraps on the first go and 5 on the second. How is it 3 wraps then as you claim?
Hi Alex, appreciate the feedback, the initial wraps is 3 and the secondary wraps or overwrapping is 3. So yes in total 6 wraps. Typically when I refer to wraps its the continuous amount of wraps within a sequence of the knot tying. With this knot it has a few different details to follow prior to the Secondary wraps being formed, hence I refer to it as three wraps. If we were talking about all the wraps including the wrap around the eyelet it would be 7 I suppose in total.
Thanks for raising this and appreciate the feedback, let me know how you get on with the knot, would appreciate the feedback, especially with your keen eye. Have a great weekend. Tigthlines
Unless I am very much mistaken you clearly tied 4 wraps on the initial demonstration using blue monofilament yet the sixty second tutorial shows only three wraps on the clear. Like the knot a lot by the way and will be out with a spring balance and test to destuction on 25lb & 18lb Maxima Ultragreen I will be using fishing the Skeena river in British Colombia for King Salmon. Not nearly as scientific as your testing methods but will winnow the wheat from the chaff regarding knots for flies and svivels!
How can this knot be used to join two lines together? I don't want to do the fg knot, it's a pain in the ass
Crack on! This looks awesome. I’m excited to give it a try. Maybe these crappie won’t keep swimming off with my crickets
Thanks Mark….. I have not fished with crickets in about 35 years….. I remember catching these with my dad once when we went on a Bass trip in Pretoria, I think I had more fun catching the crickets and camping than fishing that weekend. Take care and thx for the support.
It starts out as a Trilene and ends up even stronger.
It definitely has a few similarities to the Trilene. Both are great knots.
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Too complicated for me to do during hot fishing. I can tie a San Diego Jam knot in 5 seconds, half asleep. It's a great knot and has yet to fail me.
Hey Shawn, fair play… the San Diego knot is really really good knot, I did some testing on that knot in Fluorocarbon it performed really really well. Thx for feedback.
@@toitfishing Yessir... love those California Yellowtail! You call them Yellowtail Kingfish, I think.
I grew up as a kid catching those things, my best friend dad had a rubber duck we would run out in season and catch those things. I love catching them they fight so hard and the taste for me is probably my top 3 fish easily if not top 2. I used to work at a Fishmonger when I was at Uni and the recipe for grilling them would knock your socks off. We would just call them Yellowtail. They were fussy on the bite tho, when they were feeding it was easy but often we would drive over shoals 200-300 metres long and not one fish would even feed. The best tactic with them if you can resist lifting it in the boat is to leave one on a bungee line under the boat and you will have non stop action as it draws other inquisitive fish in to feed, give it a try. Catching them with poppers on top water is awesome also. Tightlines
My principal has ur surname.
Yes its a fairly popular surname in South Africa, tight lines bud.
this knot is unnecessarily complicated. just tie a trilene knot (which is the first part of the toit knot), wrapping it 4 times. the trilene knot is indestructible and will not slip at all under load. i've practiced it countless times with several different lines.
Hi Jeff, thx for the feedback, the Trilene knot is a great knot, if you are good at tying that, I would not change. I have done a lot of testing on the Trilene knot that you may be interested in, on thin lines it’s exceptionally strong. If you have time take a look at the WSFK episode where I test it. Tightlines and have a nice weekend.
Trilene Knot Tested | World’s Strongest Fishing Knot | Episode 3
That’s the link if you were interested. Take care.
you bent your leader tying this. Not good for flyfishing
Thx for the feedback Jeff, the Mono line at the end is 100Lb 1.0mm line so when i do put alot of force on the pullers it will slightly deform the line with the excessive force around the diameter of the pullers. I think on lighter lines you will have less of a problem. Tightlines and Thx for watching.
Waaay too much work. I’m out
Fair enough, guess the Palomar and clinch is much easier. I suppose most knots are no issue with strength if your drag is set correctly. Tightlines