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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Місяць тому +12

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
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    • @numberyellow
      @numberyellow Місяць тому

      NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
      SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx

    • @Skyfighter64
      @Skyfighter64 Місяць тому

      You've shown us how the F-16 compares when fighting against the F-22 in a gun fight, what can you do in a soviet aircraft that is effectively designed for a similar dogfight regime as the F-16? What I'm asking, is can you pull off a similar performance, and beat the F-22 in a gunfight while flying the MiG-29 (Whichever version in DCS you believe has the best chance)?

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 Місяць тому

      Great flying by Toxic AND GS
      "There will be Blood" A real edge of the seat nail-biter of a fight, great job by both of the Pilots.

    • @FamiliarAnomaly
      @FamiliarAnomaly Місяць тому

      Military performance stats are always massively rounded down in my experience, like at least 25%

  • @benjaminrogers0524
    @benjaminrogers0524 Місяць тому +438

    6:28 Editor needs to chill.😂

    • @justjake1038
      @justjake1038 Місяць тому +36

      Fr I thought it was my immagination for a sec lmao

    • @fosterparent7477
      @fosterparent7477 Місяць тому +69

      I died when I saw that.

    •  Місяць тому +21

      That was some funny shit

    • @MelordJenkins
      @MelordJenkins Місяць тому +9

      Funniest shyt ever

    • @bitmanagent67
      @bitmanagent67 Місяць тому +7

      Yeah. The editor was definitely on some double entendre ish. Love it. We need more of a great sense of humor like that.

  • @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta
    @TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta Місяць тому +207

    Ngl... when I read "boss level dogfight F16 vs F22"... in my head, it read "Morpheus is fightin Neo!"

  • @robertm8401
    @robertm8401 Місяць тому +115

    Imagine winning then doing the hard victory jinks and then having a wing or stab fall off from those previous hits 😂

  • @johnbrooks6243
    @johnbrooks6243 Місяць тому +91

    F16: YOU'RE a DAMAGED plane leaking SMOKE STUFF , ACT LIKE 1!!
    F22 : WE do a lil trolling ..ಠ◡ಠ

  • @xeiroe_gaming
    @xeiroe_gaming Місяць тому +179

    was not expecting just one round

    • @TymaDem
      @TymaDem Місяць тому +13

      Definitely needed to see a rematch

    • @homozaur
      @homozaur Місяць тому +19

      That’s what she said.

    • @Homer4prez13
      @Homer4prez13 Місяць тому +3

      It was three rounds, one life each.

    • @xeiroe_gaming
      @xeiroe_gaming 29 днів тому

      @@homozaur youre 100% correct

  • @whalehands4779
    @whalehands4779 Місяць тому +71

    Those wide shots of the two circle fight were awesome

  • @Scooter_McLuvin
    @Scooter_McLuvin Місяць тому +139

    I have grown into a fanboy of the F16 after watching your videos. That thing is a beast on a budget.

    • @goji059
      @goji059 Місяць тому +3

      own every module in DCS. all i fly is the F16

    • @MrSwede001
      @MrSwede001 29 днів тому +2

      Gripen is cheaper and basically same performance if not even better if we’re talking gripen e.

    • @sinepari9160
      @sinepari9160 29 днів тому +2

      The falcon is no joke

    • @palu8375
      @palu8375 29 днів тому +2

      @@MrSwede001it’s also like way younger

    • @kinggooseman5373
      @kinggooseman5373 29 днів тому +3

      @@MrSwede001username checks out

  • @jkil218
    @jkil218 Місяць тому +65

    I think u showed us how much a good pilot matters. Did some of that pilot shit.

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Місяць тому +67

    I'll bet Toxic would've liked another round.

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 29 днів тому +3

      The other rounds all probably lasted ten seconds

  • @joelfrantz3189
    @joelfrantz3189 Місяць тому +33

    You know it's gonna be a good video when you find our Toxic is flying as the enemy!

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus Місяць тому +2

      Toxic in an F22 is pretty much "Let's make this as hard as possible and still keep it a 1v1 guns fight"

  • @madd_lad_matt
    @madd_lad_matt Місяць тому +8

    This is one of the best DCS dogfights on youtube. Two very good players in 2 very capable planes, both planes getting shot, and a good demonstration that 1 mistake is all it takes.

  • @Matisaro
    @Matisaro Місяць тому +41

    Not sure what I loved more. The new out side of the fight perspectives or the shrek grin.
    Is there any way to get a missile cam of some missile shots, may be a new perspective to try? First person into the kill?

    • @spinningsquare1325
      @spinningsquare1325 Місяць тому +1

      Dcs has missile camera. 3rd person camera that you can rotate around the missile. Can't do first person missiles.
      Realise, that often you wouldn't see the plane you are impacting with first person missile view. Unless you pretend the camera is fixed to the seeker. This is both impossible and would look goofy

  • @Dukers2300
    @Dukers2300 29 днів тому +2

    Grew up in Colorado Springs, got to see the Thunderbirds every year. Ended up joining the Navy and seeing the Blue Angels sometimes during Seafair… having seen both, the F-16 is in a different ballpark. Not knocking the Blue Angels, but those Thunderbirds are nimble hot rods by comparison.

  • @stephenarendsechoralworksa745
    @stephenarendsechoralworksa745 Місяць тому +34

    6:25 is comedy gold!

  • @ralph.8510
    @ralph.8510 Місяць тому +17

    This was a demonstration of pilot skill, not aircraft capabilities.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Місяць тому +10

      Well, it’s a little bit of both can’t write off the aircraft fully it’s still playing a part.

    • @ralph.8510
      @ralph.8510 Місяць тому +8

      We know you would have ended that fight pretty quick in the F22 🤙🏻 you push the F16 harder than anyone I’ve ever seen. If there’s anyone that can wipe the floor with an F22 using an F16 it’s you.

  • @mikefletcherjr3022
    @mikefletcherjr3022 29 днів тому +3

    This man is a beast in the F-16 ! Hands down you have to have great skills to take down an F-22. Great fight !

  • @getyershells
    @getyershells Місяць тому +21

    I lost it when Shrek popped up

  • @marcusmcspadden9650
    @marcusmcspadden9650 Місяць тому +5

    You should swap aircraft and do it again so that it shows if it is pilot skill or fighter that makes the difference.

  • @TrySpy
    @TrySpy Місяць тому +12

    Dying to see a biplane vs F-22, SUPER low speed radius fights galore.

    • @helldad4689
      @helldad4689 Місяць тому +4

      Sopwith Camel: vs. F-22. It's a BVR fight *and* a gunfight!

    • @morrischen5777
      @morrischen5777 Місяць тому +1

      F-22: Vertical fight it is.

  • @jdkroh
    @jdkroh Місяць тому +15

    GS is the only person "the kid" doesn't want to intercept.

    • @Joe474Joe
      @Joe474Joe Місяць тому +5

      Obligatory "would you intercept me?"

    • @inff3rno
      @inff3rno 29 днів тому +2

      @@Joe474Joe *lip smack* ”I’d intercept me”

  • @StlrNtn95
    @StlrNtn95 29 днів тому +2

    When I saw Toxic was flying the F-22, I knew the Raptor was in trouble. 😂

  • @recoilrob324
    @recoilrob324 Місяць тому +6

    Are we to assume the Raptor was also running the G-Loc feature as it is now on the F-16? That would only be fair. And...if you compare the size of each aircraft the Raptor's got some real moves for such a large beast. The fact that the F-16 has to work to defeat it is pretty impressive all things considered.

  • @TimbavatiLion
    @TimbavatiLion Місяць тому +1

    hot damn that ground view from the 2-circle fight was epic.
    Imagine watching 2 jets above your head dueling it out in this dance of death....

  • @dl6519
    @dl6519 Місяць тому +10

    That was EPIC!! This occurs to me - if the corner speed for the F-22 has not been published, Toxic may not have the information needed to max-rate the F-22, which could have made a difference as your ability to max-rate the F-16 was arguably one of the decisive factors.

    • @JamisonMK3
      @JamisonMK3 Місяць тому +3

      BUT the info is there to max rate the F22 in it's current state in DCS.

    • @dl6519
      @dl6519 Місяць тому +1

      @@JamisonMK3 Thanks!

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Місяць тому +5

      ya he has the DCS numbers, the idea is just that those numbers may not be accurate due to the classified nature of them.

  • @jairo8746
    @jairo8746 Місяць тому +7

    I am starting to think that it is not the plane, but you.
    Great fight.

    • @PGH_RSV4
      @PGH_RSV4 Місяць тому +2

      Don't worry, it's 100% GS. Put GS in the 22 and Toxic in the 16, this video would've been 3 mins long

  • @lewiov
    @lewiov Місяць тому +3

    F22 was not letting that first round slide Lol. Nice flying from the both of you!

  • @stinkyfungus
    @stinkyfungus Місяць тому +1

    Let's all appreciate that NEITHER PILOT took the sidewinder option after drawing blood.

  • @whodoesnt3745
    @whodoesnt3745 Місяць тому +5

    the very second you guys merged the raptor said "uhm actually were doing it my way..."

  • @LuisSantanderArt
    @LuisSantanderArt Місяць тому +3

    Aaah, I just saw these two at an air show yesterday. Lovely

  • @ingoos
    @ingoos Місяць тому

    Awesome demo of man-in-the-box fight. Thanks, GW!

  • @DavidSteele
    @DavidSteele Місяць тому +1

    That's one of the most intense dogfights I've watched for a while. Jolly good show, chaps!

  • @numberyellow
    @numberyellow Місяць тому +11

    damn...so good, no round 2 was necessary.
    Lose sight, lose the fight.

    • @milesnichols8497
      @milesnichols8497 25 днів тому +2

      Ive been saying this forever loose sight loose fight absolutely great 👍

  • @InSearchOfReality
    @InSearchOfReality Місяць тому

    Definitely the most epic, 1 round fight ever. Kudos to you both!!

  • @danlaufenburger6633
    @danlaufenburger6633 Місяць тому

    Thank you for that fight!
    Thoroughly enjoyable 👍

  • @swedishbones8937
    @swedishbones8937 Місяць тому +3

    The bluebelly red starred viper is venomous indeed.

  • @entropy11
    @entropy11 Місяць тому +2

    Also the aggressor paintjob on your viper is great

  • @christopherwilson2606
    @christopherwilson2606 Місяць тому +3

    Great flying to you both!

  • @seanr928docs7
    @seanr928docs7 Місяць тому +1

    I can imagine the chat/debrief after a run like that is as entertaining as the video.

  • @leib109
    @leib109 Місяць тому +5

    It’s been a long time since F-14 content…

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 29 днів тому +1

      He heard you...see next video :))

    • @leib109
      @leib109 29 днів тому

      @@heathb4319 Yep! It’s a good one!

  • @niixodus
    @niixodus Місяць тому +1

    F-16 pilot likely AB'd back to base to go punish the toilet after this intense fight. Well played!

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley Місяць тому +2

    That was awesome! great fight!

  • @silverbullet836
    @silverbullet836 Місяць тому +4

    Love your F16 content!

  • @aktroy907
    @aktroy907 26 днів тому

    Whats cool is i hear this all day in Anchorage Alaska!

  • @ViperDriver22
    @ViperDriver22 29 днів тому

    Another great "fangs out" fight. Keep'm going plz. Cheers.

  • @akwild83
    @akwild83 Місяць тому

    2 of my all time favorites going at it, love the F22 but the Viper will always have a special place in my heart

  • @midnightbluevt
    @midnightbluevt 29 днів тому

    I love the way condensation plumes flow around the 16, it looks like she's breathing smoke or something.

  • @Pincer88
    @Pincer88 29 днів тому

    These videos are both entertaining and educational. I've learned so much about tactics, and BFM on this channel as a simple (former) grunt with a passion for military aviation. You explain things so well, I think you'd be a great teacher/instructor, if only when using DCS as a tool. Wouldn't it be great if the RCAF recognized that and ask you to make a few (classified) instructional videos for yound cadets studying to become Canada's finest?

  • @rickmellor
    @rickmellor Місяць тому

    Man that was a lot of work. I don’t think I could have done another round just watching it.

  • @bri-manhunter2654
    @bri-manhunter2654 28 днів тому

    Always a great fight when you both take damage.

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC Місяць тому

    Awesome! Bravo
    Time and again you are able to force a 2 circle fight when the other guy wants a 1 circle, and a 1 circle when the other guy wants 2 circle, but other guys can't seem to do the same to you. Clearly GS has a skill advantage! I'd like to see the same fight with the seats swapped.

  • @doriangente1539
    @doriangente1539 29 днів тому +2

    That soviet f16 skin threw me off hard ahah

  • @Cloud-rp4ev
    @Cloud-rp4ev 29 днів тому

    Nice video, with explanations!

  • @eldivandecthulhu
    @eldivandecthulhu 29 днів тому

    What a great fight for two of you. Congratulations to Toxic for surviving two bursts!

  • @abbaerfani9007
    @abbaerfani9007 Місяць тому

    Great fight by you GS and I believe you are missing MIG21 when I say that color you choose for F16 .thanks again for making all this videos love your work ❤❤❤

  • @ComradeAndrej
    @ComradeAndrej Місяць тому

    Haven't seen anyone doing the off-set 2-circle against you, yet I remember your video where you crush with MiG-29 off-setting vs F-16.

  • @thesuppresor
    @thesuppresor 29 днів тому

    "he's actually adapting to the fight" With this sacred treasure i summon: 8 handled divine general F-22

  • @SSJ4Brohan
    @SSJ4Brohan Місяць тому

    Almost got too excited with the first gun hit. Lol..... almost. 😎

  • @sam-ej7sq
    @sam-ej7sq 29 днів тому +1

    the shrek got me lol

  • @kenmcclain1499
    @kenmcclain1499 Місяць тому +2

    You are the master of the f-16.

  • @mokelydokely
    @mokelydokely Місяць тому

    Phenomenal fight!

  • @julianhorner9485
    @julianhorner9485 Місяць тому +1

    Really glad you won that one 🎉

  • @mathewthomason8397
    @mathewthomason8397 Місяць тому

    I love the Atari sounds the f-16 makes.

  • @ziz_thehomie
    @ziz_thehomie Місяць тому +1

    this guy is legit so good at dcs and i enjoy seeing his videos maybe he can also be useful for the USAF

    • @itsdokko2990
      @itsdokko2990 Місяць тому

      makes one wonder what would happen if somehow he got inside a cockpit

  • @kevincalhoun9653
    @kevincalhoun9653 Місяць тому +2

    This is the most exciting, most suspenseful video I've seen from you!

  • @dbae14
    @dbae14 Місяць тому +1

    Did the F-16 damage model get a buff along with the g-lock rework? For all its greatness, usually the F-16 crumbles after taking a couple rounds, and certainly would not have been able to pull those Gs in a continued rate fight.

  • @55Dag
    @55Dag Місяць тому +2

    Was thinking the 22 maybe should have gone offset when it first went 2 circle?

  • @MACE1-1
    @MACE1-1 Місяць тому

    Very very proud, very very excited 'bout them vipers...

  • @Adrian-ik3qf
    @Adrian-ik3qf Місяць тому +5

    Calm down the Russian F16 C is not real
    Meanwhile GSW...

  • @lhiannonshee
    @lhiannonshee Місяць тому

    Damn, that was a good fight!

  • @Warsmith_Honsou
    @Warsmith_Honsou Місяць тому

    Great fight!

  • @shaheeratta1549
    @shaheeratta1549 29 днів тому

    Proves just how much the man machine behind the machine matters. No matter put against what aircraft, I would choose GS any day of the week. The guy literally shot down an F-22 once flying an MB-339, that too in only one turn!

  • @dogfalcon
    @dogfalcon 22 дні тому

    Is yet to born a plane that can match an F16...
    Legendary.

  • @enpilarlapaz1494
    @enpilarlapaz1494 Місяць тому +2

    love how yall where shitting on that made up su75 for struggling against an f16 but when the raptor looses to it now its just "pilot skill"

  • @gfarrell80
    @gfarrell80 29 днів тому +1

    5:05 surely turning rate is probably also dependent on air pressure - height above sea level, temperature, wind conditions. I feel like those could dramatically affect the best turn rate.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  29 днів тому +2

      100% they do, along with drag like weapons you're carrying, pylons, fuel etc etc

  • @noahward8314
    @noahward8314 Місяць тому

    YES ANOTHER DOGFIGHT!

  • @OoheavysackoO
    @OoheavysackoO Місяць тому

    Awesome but I love the 3 to 5 round fights.

  • @mopardude824
    @mopardude824 Місяць тому

    That was one hell of a fight.

  • @tylerwiley1243
    @tylerwiley1243 Місяць тому

    I’d love to see more bandit unknowns in any of the American teen series fighters

  • @jeremyryan3200
    @jeremyryan3200 29 днів тому

    Now THIS is a dogfight

  • @user-nb2vj2fv9s
    @user-nb2vj2fv9s Місяць тому

    Love to see more gripen content

  • @sana-cm7oc
    @sana-cm7oc Місяць тому

    Cool video! Fly by with bullet holes.

  • @cryptombt5880
    @cryptombt5880 Місяць тому

    Some fantastic flying there. I need to,learn from you if you teach people?

  • @gunzelloharris3348
    @gunzelloharris3348 Місяць тому

    Nice Fight!

  • @theclassicliberal1915
    @theclassicliberal1915 Місяць тому

    Such a great fight

  • @emp2312
    @emp2312 Місяць тому

    I want to see you fly the YF-23 and dogfight everything! Get in the 23's cockpit and Dogfight!

  • @F23GreyGhost
    @F23GreyGhost Місяць тому +4

    When the missiles run out, it's good to know our most numerous fighter can hold its own against the best.
    I'd love to see a dogfight between the Su-57 and the YF-23 at some point. It's obvious I'm a fan of the Gray Ghost, and so far the Raptor is the only one that seems to stand a chance against it, but I'd like to see how Russia's best can fare.

  • @45Photography45
    @45Photography45 Місяць тому

    You should do more mini docs with dcs

  • @adbell3364
    @adbell3364 29 днів тому

    Excellent!

  • @DeltaV64
    @DeltaV64 Місяць тому

    DCS should also implement some "Head forward" mechanic when pulling Gs. I don't think you are going to be able to look back like at a steep upwards angle when pulling 7 Gs . I'd love to see how that would influence the fights.

  • @MelordJenkins
    @MelordJenkins Місяць тому

    8:18 damn, that made me flench😅

  • @TictacAddict1
    @TictacAddict1 Місяць тому +2

    Better check your luggage with those giant holes in your fuselage and, no apparent flight interruption. You'll need to replace your Fruit of the Loom underwear (that includes the pair you're wearing).

  • @evildiesel7850
    @evildiesel7850 Місяць тому

    You imagine how much better it would have been if they didn't impose the SIOP mission on it and you had the John Boyd buttonhook turn in the inventory!

  • @nunucello
    @nunucello Місяць тому

    Exciting !

  • @nig87101
    @nig87101 29 днів тому +1

    Props to you both for a real edge of the seat fight! Thanks GS. 👍

  • @VAPhillyFan54
    @VAPhillyFan54 Місяць тому

    What a fight! S/O to red air. Good flying.

    • @VAPhillyFan54
      @VAPhillyFan54 Місяць тому +1

      Sus paint job on that viper....

  • @brendtchang6564
    @brendtchang6564 Місяць тому

    At the end you can see the rounds your F-16 took to the port side of the refueling receptor.

  • @bridgecross
    @bridgecross Місяць тому +1

    that was intense

  • @rattleheadx
    @rattleheadx Місяць тому

    F-16 vs. F-22? This is gonna be spicy! Oh, the OPFOR pilot is Toxic? This is gonna be REALLY spicy!
    Great fight, guys!

  • @RobertBrusOfficial
    @RobertBrusOfficial Місяць тому

    Epic!