It's Time To Remake Fallout 1 & 2
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- With Fallout 5 still years away and recent success of its television adaption, as well as game's Like Baldur's Gate 3, Jean-Luc thinks it's time to bring back the beloved classics that started the Fallout franchise.
#fallout #fallout2 #bethesda - Ігри
I'd be on board with remakes, but only if everyone from Bethesda wear bomb collars that go off if they enter a 600 feet radius around the remake's writing department.
I like that idea.
And a nuclear warhead in the basement, if anyone decides to even think about using the creation engine.
Just keep the dialogue the exact same
Dude… you are a fanatic
Why would they change the story, the material and lore is already there 😂
Microsoft owns InXile and Obsidian, which are staffed by the original developers of Fallout. If anyone should remake Fallout it should be one of those teams not Bethesda.
Agreed!!!
Most of those original fallout devs have left both of those studios. It is only a handful of them left
Doesn’t Bethesda own the right to the whole series? How would it even be a thought if that was true?
@@clr977 Microsoft owns Bethesda, so they can outsource a Fallout remake to one of those other studios. Just like how Bethesda outsource New Vegas to Obsidian. And it's not like Microsoft hasn't done that before. Killer Instinct and Perfect Dark are Rare properties yet Microsoft used their other studios to make the "newest" games in those franchises
@@BurritoKingdom Was just about to say this... It's sad 120 people are just like "Duh, ok".
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Call me crazy but... I miss having physical manuals for games that have a lot of lore...
On the other hand, doing physical manuals like it's the 90's doesn't really work anymore: If people want to figure out the lore for some games, most will just watch channels like Oxhorn or look it up on a wiki; The situation is incredibly different from what it was 20 or even 30 years ago.
Test results came back, and it looks like you're sane, sir.
@@dragonbornexpress5650
" look it up on a wiki"
Which can and is rewritten so that the games don't make sense. A manual could be used in decades time. A wiki can be deleted or 'corrected' to the needs of the IP holder.
Xbox really needs to give the Fallout IP to a few other developers again, since Bethesda is busy with Elder Scrolls. Get another studio to make some Baldurs Gate style remakes of 1 & 2. Let Obsidian make New Vegas 2. It's money in the bank, XBOX!
I don't know if it's that easy for MS to move IPs around, but yeah that would make the most sense. Especially with how long Bethesda's dev cycle is nowadays. Fallout 4 was almost 9 years ago, Skyrim 13 years in November, and we haven't seen a followup to either in that time. It's kinda nuts.
@@yewtewbstew547 Right. But, they're giving us the Next Gen update . . . 9 years later.
Obsidian's busy with their own games so by the time they can actually work on nv2 Bethesda could already be working on fallout 5. inexile on the other hand might be free enough for a remake or spin-off.
@@justinterry8894 I highly doubt they're already working on Fallout 5. Do they have notes and ideas? Probably, but no way is it currently in development right now
@@loowisk1113. No, it's not currently in development: However, Obsidian themselves are busy with their own projects including Outer Worlds 2 and Avowed; I doubt they have the room for Fallout 1 and 2 remakes. (Specifically remakes because remasters are not gonna happen unless one of the original Black Isle developers pocketed the source code before Interplay collapsed.)
if microsoft give a green light for inxile to work on fallout 1 and 2 remakes that would be amazing!!
Wasteland 3 was so good !
Yeah agree. No Bethesda .
We need a petition, if this gets enough traction im sure microsoft will green lit it
@@marshal7969 it would be amazing!!!!!
im not sure its the same people who still work there
"No controller support on steam."
Me: i made a scheme for xinput and uploaded it... I want to say 5 years ago...
Edit: Wow, 77 likes, ok. So for anyone interested. I build x-input controls for PC games that I own that had console ports or versions that don't have a dedicated version. TES4: Oblivion... for example.
I also build x-input schemes for non console games that I feel I could play on the steam link plugged into my TV.
So when he said no controller support or steam deck support I knew he hadn't looked far.
Using an analog stick to move a mouse cursor is hellish.
@@ronniewhitedx it’s not that bad really. And I played FO1 and 2 on my Steam deck using the track pads, actually worked relatively well. Paying with caps was a bit of a pain though.
@@Downphoenixpretty sure theres a mod that fixes counting out caps, i remember hearing about one
@@ronniewhitedx you can set mouse speed in steams controller bindings. I'm normally the one to build stick bindings for pc games.
Like SCP:SL... because using a keyboard like that hurts my hand.
My understanding is that Microsoft effectively owns the Fallout IP now. How convenient that they also own Obsidian ;). If the remakes do happen let's just hope the core dev teams from both games are at least heavily involved (a few of them are still with Obsidian, so that a good thing).
THANK GOD,with the fallout series success and future seasons in the way I think they will do the remakes.
the irony of obsidian making the best bethesda games
The problem is, Obsidian has its own Fallout-like franchise now called The Outer Worlds, and they're already talking about a sequel.
inXile (also a Microsoft team) has more of the people that made Fallout 1 and 2 so they should probably get it
@@amazingdrewH Or put both to cooperatively remaster Fallout 1 and 2 at the same time
Please don't let Bethesda remake these. They will butcher them somehow
This is a crazy take
@@tylerdavis9605 Yeah, a crazy good take.
@@tylerdavis9605 Crazy correct
Microsoft does own InXile and Obsidian, both studios have the original creators of Fallout in them.
I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't buy the remnants of Interplay to completely own all the rights to Fallout.
@@tylerdavis9605not really. Among the Fallout community, Fallout 3, 4 & 76 are considered meh because they're mostly Elder Scrolls games just with Fallout aesthetics. New Vegas was developed by Obsidian, which is staffed by some of the original creators of Fallout and that is considered the best modern Fallout game amongst most Fallout fans.
I would be okay with just an Enhanced Edition like they did for Baludrs Gate 1+2, clean up some of the bugs, higher res, couple of quality of life improvements, and controller support for consoles or pc gamers that are fans of controllers.
I'm not the biggest fan of top down games, but if they did all these things you've listed, I'd definitely love to play it on my Xbox.
The lore behind the first two are awesome and something I haven't had the opportunity to explore firsthand being a console gamer.
Bethesda: "Introducing Fallout and Fallout 2: Legacy Editions; now with... ALL OF THE MICROTRANSACTIONS!!!"
creation club, with a skyrim helmet and doom bfg and fallout 4 assault rifle
@@AmyCherryLMAO True endings... and Dogmeat... locked behind DLC. TV show "skins" available through pre order.
@@theREALfearsKLOWNs that's right we'll broken steel our way to fixing something we think is broken!"
I'd like to see, maybe not a remake, but an original Fallout adventure in the isometric style.
or even a non fallout game using SPECIAL and its unique action point system.
@@tree_alone what would be the point of that?
That would be called Fallout. @@tree_alone
Honestly yeah I'd LOVE that
@@theincrediblefella7984 Never played Arcanum?
Give it to Nightdive Studios to update!
No. As much as I love them - unless it's Tim, Leonard, nChris, and Co. remaking them - they should be left as is. There's Fo1in2 which transfers the whole fallout to fallout 2 engine that is already good enough, there are fan patches and mods to make the game more approachable.
I think Tim and Leonard are still at Obsidian right? So there's a chance.
I'm not sure where Chris Avellone stands nowadays in terms of industry connections and relationships, after all the stuff that went down with his cancellation I mean. He seems to have bounced back in terms of fan reception, but things might not be so good for him internally at these companies. I would definitely like to see him write for a Fallout game again though.
@@yewtewbstew547 Tim is "semi-retired" as he said.
He's a contractor now, AFAIK. Not officially part of some studio.
Tim Cain has a youtube channel too and he's spoken about what he would keep and cut from a Fallout remake. Really cool stuff actually.
I personally would love and buy a remake if it were done tastefully
then they are destined to the waste bin.
Yeah, Obsidian should definitely do it, but I don't think Bethesda wants to see them be praised by the critics, for the second time after New Vegas, for handling the IP better then Tod Howard's minions.
Bethesda didn't even paid the bonus they promised to Obsidian for reaching the goals. That's sets the bar.
i thought todd had spite for the obsidian devs for making an objectively better game than them, but tbh if you look at almost everything avellone jsaw or todd have said, none of them are mad at each other. in most interviews with todd explaining new vegas, he says he actually liked their work on the franchise, and you could see from their nods to the game in the tv show. the only reason bethesda doesnt give the fallout ip to a 3rd party is just cause of money and selectiveness, theres no behind the scenes drama or anything.
As long as literally anyone but Bethesda is making it.
This. 1, 2, and NV still stand the best. Fallout 3, mostly was great, although linear - but still felt "Fallout". 4 was... worth a couple playthroughs, and was fun, but wasn't so much truly "Fallout" anymore. 76 - yes they fixed a ton and added a ton, but it's still not "Fallout" to me, at all - Bethesda tried to take Fallout too far to be what it isn't.
I’m new to Fallout but did they not make the originals?
@@whoishim2998 No it was obsidian
@@Royaldeath-trooperBlack Isle/Interplay back then
@@samlawson635 3 and 4 feels more like a theme park ride than a fallout title. I guess it's fitting that one of the dlc for 4 is set in a literal theme park.
Even if remakes don't happen then the first 2 Fallout games should at least be ported on to modern console platforms. If Beamdog managed to do it for Baldur's Gate 1, Planescape Torment, and Neverwinter Nights then Fallout 1 & 2 on consoles shouldn't be a problem as well.
Except the situation with the first two Fallout games is incredibly different from those examples if you know how Interplay ended up. Plus, there's still the issue with the source code; Without that, a simple port is NOT happening.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Oof, I didn't account for missing source codes. That'll definitely complicate things.
Would reverse engineering the games off of the retail discs work?
Todd Howard and Tim Cain need to work TOGETHER to achieve a full Fallout 1 & 2 remake in-house at Bethesda, or even outsource it to Obsidian.
Thing is. I feel Wasteland 3 kind of occupies that space
Theres plenty of room for more
I always thought an RE2 or FFVII style remake would work incredibly well for the original Fallouts, but I like your idea too
If there are plans to remake Fallout 1 and 2, then bring in the team that's been making the Wasteland games.
The first wasteland game was what inspired fallout. And when the original publisher for the first two fallout games went bankrupt, some of the dev's went to the Wasteland team.
Even the NCR's Ranger's are a reference to the faction you play as in Wasteland, the Desert Rangers or Arizona Ranger's.
I also just want the Wasteland games to get more attention. I've only played the third, but its been fun.
Please give FNV to obsidian so they can put in all the cut content and refurbish that beautiful game
Don’t change a single thing about dialogue just like make the graphics more modern that’s it. If I even see one inch of color change in the remake, I will be bomb reviewing the game instantly.
2:02 it's true, at a family dinner on Sunday, my uncle asked me if I played the fallout games because he liked the show
If I'm your uncle (guess I'm old enough to be an uncle, LOL), I would ask if you watched the Fallout TV show because I love the games 😅😁 (yeah, I have lame jokes to be an uncle too...)
Thank you Gamespot for giving Fallout 1 & 2 the attention they deserve. These are, in my opinion, the strongest entries in the Fallout series and with the success of the Fallout show, Microsoft and Bethesda could make a lot of money capitalizing off its success. Fallout 1 & 2 are perfect for fans of the show because both games take place in California.
I was young and bought fallout 3 for Xbox 360 after watching jack septiceye play fallout 4 expecting fallout 3 to be fallout 4🤦♂️
Yeah but if they were to remake I would like them to somehow pull off where everything could be isometric but you could hit a button to go into a 3D version of the game. Many games have done something similar with graphics. Halo MCC and also Tomb Raider 1-3 Remasters. But I think it would be a good idea. Both fans of the OG 1-2 Style could be happy and the newer 3-4/FO76 would be happy too.
Played fallout 2 for the first time in 01. To this day i still occasionally do a playthrough. Its pure nostalgia, doesnt need a remake.
Obsidian should do the Remake, as they actually have people that work in the originals, also they have done isometric RPGs like Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny, so they would be the perfect pick
i doubt there will ever be a remake of 1 and 2 without bethesda.. every game they havent made has barly made any money back and microsoft goes where the "NOW" money is, and with the fallout show being a success i think theres even less of a chance. Like the biggest mistake bethesda ever did was letting someone else use the creation engine and i heavily doubt they will give it away again. and todd is way to close to phil and corporate for them to force the creation engine and licence to someone else.
I really hope fallout 1 and 2 get a proper remake they could use it more than fallout 3 and new Vegas, the controls in fallout 1 and 2 are frustrating but I still love the visuals and charm of the game it's a game you can really sink time into for sure like most rpgs
playing the original fallouts on steamdeck isn't hard at all. just apply the top rated community layout and you're good to go
4:23 Whoah hold up there! I'll give you Pokemon Red and Blue, but Super Metroid? Ok, I'll admit it's aged some, but much better than the others lol
Fans have been craving this for a while now. There are excellent decade old fan made mods on UA-cam that showcase the enthusiasm.
I played the original fallout games and fell in love with them and still do and would love to play them again including fallout tactics. They may be old but the game play and story beats a lot of games released today, a welcomed and missed blast from the past
The Fallout: Vault 13 Fallout 4 mod is looking to be a pretty promising Fallout 1 remake. The demo should be out this summer.
bethesda should give it to INxile, where director is Brian Fargo, manager of original games development, also they make isometric games right now.
In my peripheral vision i thought Kurt was Jake Peralta when he made that face so i was so confused when i focused again and it looked nothing like that lol. Also yea i would love any remake of these games i was too young to experience these games firsthand when it was fresh so it would be cool whether it be the isometric version or an action fps version
Fallout 2 fixed some of the interface issues with the first fallout. But if the game was remade, the main thing that I think should be totally overhauled is the combat and make it more tactical in terms of player skill, taking influence from modern xcom,baldurs gate 3 and jagged alliance 3. Keep the script mostly the same, update the visuals to be at least pathfinder: wrath of the righteous level in terms of tech, etc.
@1:22 I checked it out and that is indeed, the face of “loving it”
Totally agree with what you're saying. A part of me wants to play them, but they are so old school that I'm worried I won't finish it. I've watched oxhorn play them, and that's okay, but there's nothing like playing the games yourself.
I hope if they remake those games, we get a version like modern Fallouts. In my opinion, it just works better as an FPS.
A remake should only be done where there's a matter of a game limitation or a vision that cannot be achieved with the current one.
The Tomb Raider trilogy recieved the remaster because if you remade it, controls and all, then it wouldn't be the same game as the original, all the issues you listed, from the menus, the graphics and mechanics, all those can be reworked and tweaked in a remaster, like a highlight for objects with a nametag over them and all commands can be activated with readily accessible prompts.
Fallout 1 and 2 need remasters, if they are remade then they wouldn't be the same game.
Agreed. Fallout 1 and 2 definitely need a remake… in the form of modern 3d fallout. In short: don’t do much more than is necessary to “translate” it from 2d to 3d. Heck, the basis for this is already there in new Vegas. Reuse said assets, create new elements when necessary, and you got a good game!
I still remember the first fallout game manual coming with recipes you could make
Bethesda remade Fallout 1 & 2 as Fallout 3.
fallout 2 is first game i ever played and it is the best game ever created. I want, i need, i desire Fallout 1 and 2 remasters. Please God
I know this won’t happen, but I would love a Baldur’s Gate 3 style version of the Cyberpunk table top game. I think it would be awesome. If done right with enough love and care.
This might be a hot take but if we get remakes i would want them in the Fallout 4/76 style of gameplay. I have been a fan since the 90s and i love the isometric style dont get me wrong but ever since the jump to 3D RPGs the series has been a powerhouse. Imagine The Master or Frank Horrigan in FO4 style
Fallout 1 and 2 are some of the most incredible games I’ve played. And I didn’t play them back in the day. I’ve played them already much more recently. A remake would be incredible ❤
Yes! I am a huge fallout fan, but gee wiz is it a slog to go back to the originals after playing all of the modern titles. I really wish a remake of both Fallout 1 and 2 would come out. I would also love extended content to be added to add to that experience and to ensure I can clock in many more hours of playthrough run time with them. It would be very cool if we could get extra content for Fallout's 1 and 2, made by either Tim Cain, Bethesda, or Obsidian, depending on who is making it.
The game is to new to get a remake first work on original Xbox PS2 games before jumping on Xbox one games or PS4 games the last of us part 1 isn’t a remake on PS5 like all those rumors said glad I didn’t pay $70 for it look now naughty dogs didn’t make the last of us part 2 on PS5 cause $70 cause it’s not a remake
My brother, what are you even trying to say? Fallout 1 & 2 both came out before the ps2 released so no they aren’t “to new” to get a remake
@xNeoNxCyaN Step 1, see thumbnail. Step 2, read video title. Step 3, skip video and post irrelevant opinion / assertion in comment section.
Bruh, are you trolling or are you actually slow?
@@mattmattson316who are you talking to 😂
@@mattmattson316everyone in this chat is trolling except for you what a joke
Fallout 1& 2 should be remade, but not as rpgs. They should be like the originals, with amazing graphics.
I loved playing fallout 1 and 2. They were 2 of my favourite games ever.
Use "Fallout et tu" mod, its Fallout 1 ported to Fallout 2 engine with many new features. For Fallout 2 use Restoration Project, Talking Heads actually talk mods with added voice overs.
WOW...that is, like- KURT RUSSELL-level hair
Nice
I pray he gets to enjoy it for as long as Kurt does his
Gosh, with the success of Fallout Show, Bethesda and Microsoft are really biting their foot. What a perfect time for some new Fallout, and this would be great idea, too.
There are Fallout 4 mods coming for that, no one should even think of bethesda doing it
If you're making comparison with Baldur Gate 3, maybe Larian can do the remakes for Fallout 1 and 2. Maybe hahaha
I've been wondering why nobody ever did an "enhanced edition" the way they did for BG 1 and 2 and icewind dale, and even Planescape Torment.
The original fallout was dark with funny dark humour elements and the choices were amazing.
I love how serious Fallout 1 and 2 are, Bethesda needs to turn down the silliness like 10 percent.
I would like to see remasters, on all platforms.
Exactly. Yeah remasters with fine tuning of controls etc. Like mr Cain would wanted for Fallout 1. I also want Fallout Tactics to be modernized so new and vets alike can actually easly play it and get into ita story arch. With ALOT of voice overs from Ron Pearlman himself👌
If baulders gate 1 & 2 got remasters. Then, by gosh, i say, let's ask for it. Even BETHESDA could see that be a good idea
Fallout 1, 2, and Vegas and that’s the entire trilogy of Fallout.
Yes please, these games were so great, we need to replay then in higher screen resolution
I just wanna infiltrate Mariposa and/or face The Master in full, real-time 3D. Not too much too ask.
I want to get into this series but more updated, so I'd love that.
I played this back in the day and never knew there was a manual. And I agree, remake this game already, give the project to Owlcat Games (or Larian if they want to do this).
I'm really digging this (new?) Format -- subscribed!
It’s wild how making a game ensures you profits at the time of release, profits from ports to next gen consoles, and profits from a full blown remake when technology advances a lot
I've been wanting to play these forever now
Just give me a remaster. Same writing. Some gameplay adjustments and a visual overhaul but maintaining the feel and look and I'll gladly buy it for 60 quid.
What I learned from this video- (1) I need a steam deck. (2) fallout 1 -2 remaster would be awesome. with that said need Tim Caine gotta be apart of it.
They should also remake 3, 4, and NV in the isometric style. Why not please every one.
Bethesda really needs to expand its dev teams/loan out the franchise (a la NV).
They make me think they dont want money.
Not necessarily how it works.
inexile would be the obvious choice. they have a lot of ties to the original. If Brain Fargo isn't working on a fallout game right now I'd be shocked. would be great marketing. After 30 years the OG fallout team finally get another shot at the ip they created.
Wasteland 3 was great. Id live to see FO 1 n 2 get either an iso remake ir even a first person shooter rog remaje like 3 n NV.
Either one would make me happy.
Funny, i thought it was time for people to stop asking for remakes of games they love because they'll simply end up not liking them. No, really. If you like the OG Fallout how could you like a REMAKE that changes fudamentally everything? If anything ask for faithful remakes that don't change perspectives and gameplay. ( graphic makeover )
Then it's not a remake; That'd be a remaster. (Which is not happening if you know anything about what happened to Interplay after Fallout Tactics released.)
fallout 2 remake with BG 3 system
There are a couple discord servers that are following the progress of a couple of mods for FO4 that remake MO1 and 2...
It is in first/third person I believe, but there might be some way to make it top-down iso. like the originals...
Fallout: Vault 13
Fallout 4: Project Arroyo
Neither are finished yet, but Vault 13 is about 90% completed by the project's co-lead's estimates...
Honestly i dont think they need a remake that much. Maybe controller support and a console port + bug fixes (there are community patches out there that fix the bugs anyway)
I'm not much of a Top Down POV type gamer, but I love fallout, I just wished they make it 3D
The best way we could do it is get an exile to bundle up with Bethesda
At least Fallout 1 and 2 are being remade in Fallout 4. Along with 3 and New Vegas.
Well there's basically two ways where this can turn to be good
If it's Inxile Entertainment that remakes those games, and they stay isometric rpg
Or if it's Obsidian and they make them very similar to fallout new vegas
The only remake those games need is better graphics upgrade (not change with retarder childing over saturated colors just higher res models and keeping the feeling of the games)
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And maybe a little more stuff added into them, more missions, more mosters, more dungeons, more events, more equipmment , equipment modding/upgrading, even ability to reate settlements.
Fallout 1 and 2 with mods are awesome
But a remaster is needed
I can’t say to much about fallout 1 and 2 but fallout 3 was the best it was truly my favorite
Still love this game could come back playing ▶️ fallout 2 anytime flipping cried at the end of fallout one when I was 13
No. No and no they would change so much that they wouldn’t even be the same games anymore. They would take all the blood all the guts all the gore all the controversial stuff out and we basically get Starfield 2.0 an M from mature game made for babies.
Ikr
This is what we call lying to yourself.
One important thing. They are cheaper to make, big motive nowadays
3:06 "There wasn't anything like Fallout - and there still isn't." Have you ever heard of WASTELAND? ☢
I Would Happy With Fallout 3 And Fallout New Vegas Remastered With Mod Support
Wasn't the manual spiral bound?
Remaster in style of Command & Conquer Remastered Collection would be great. Remake in style of Fallout 3 and 4 would be the worst.
I would finally be interested in buying an Xbox if they remade all 5 main games, or at least remastered them to fit next gen graphics standards.
so very true, after finishing 3/nv/4, tried 1 & 2 & really struggle trying to move forward with how very clunky the gameplay system for current. Personally just hoping for whoever doing those fan-remake using FO3 or FO4 engine would finish em up faster so that finally able to enjoy the original story that is 1 & 2.
Imagine Fallout 1 & 2 with gameplay somewhere between Baldur's Gate 3 and XCOM 2.
Similar to wasteland 2 and 3 then?
@@TheGamingGopher would love fallout 1 and 2 in wasteland style today
@@coronacrockford3656 I’m actually playing Wasteland 3 rn and I agree. The turn based combat is really fun
@@TheGamingGopher you play on pc or xbox
@@coronacrockford3656 PC. I just find menus and overall navigation of these type of games much easier with a mouse
It's tough for me to see how the originals are that dated, especially compared to something like system shock. If gamers in 2024 are apparently totally fine with playing a game like baldur's gate 3, it doesn't seem all that different to play fallout 1/2. If they do a remake, I hope they go the route of the command and conquer remaster as opposed to the system shock one. Any remaster of the originals should be 2D and turn-based, period. They're really not that difficult to get into as-is.
Larian's CRPGs are much more user-friendly and "console aware" than the original Fallouts, or even Obsidian's first Pillars of Eternity.
@@ffnbbq meh, this game isn't really meant for a console. Besides any potato made after the year 2000 will run it. Gameplay wise, I think if a player had fun with BG3 they would have fun with this. Unless what they liked was the tactical combat, in which case fallout is comparatively lacking
I'd love to see Obsidian make an isometric Fallout game (but not necesseraly a remake).
Funny.. I was just thinking about this yesterday. Remake 1, 2, and 3 to hold us till 5!
This is a good counter-argument to the people who bemoan remakes as lazy and greedy. There's a LOT of people out there who never played the original, and a remake allows them to experience a classic game, but with more polish and the bugbears of time scrubbed out.