No Yhorm?? His fate was one of the saddest across all the games. Dude loved his people so much despite how they treated him then in doing what he thought was the right thing he wiped out the whole profaned capital and himself. He literally screams in pain after waking up again. No respect for my dog 😢
Ivory king is the saddest imo. He was one of the few purely benevolent characters in all of dark souls (I’d argue he’s THE chillest monarch fromsoft had created). But sadly he was in the wrong universe where kindness is not rewarded and he lost everything he worked hard to maintain.
midra easily had one of the worst fates imaginable. i don't know if he was a hero but he chose to endure the pain instead of burning the realm of shadow to the ground
@@deathandrebirth-y8x I mean she was kinda a bitch and did horrible things everywhere, she kinda derserved it, as a matter of fact I think she didn't suffer as much as she should have, and when she was impaled and crucified by the Elden Beast/Greater Will she shatered the Elden Ring knowing that she would probably die or get trapped in the erdtree forever
@@deathandrebirth-y8xfor how long was midra trapped compared to marika? Lest we forget how marika had a spear through her abdomen while midra had his entire body stuck in a branching spear, barely holding on to sanity
@@abridgedgowther5213well considering that Marika wiped out most of the Hornsent. They sent out the Hornsent inquisition Had been there for a long long time Mira was likely studying down there some time before Marika ever Became a god
I have to say Vendrick. When you visit his memories he seem so regretful of what he did to the giants and Nashandra betrayed him, left to Hollow for all eternity.
Instantly thought of gehrman. The dialogue of him crying in his sleep and calling for someone to save him is really well done. And just incredibly sad.
@@KingOfhearts72It’s sad but let’s not forget that Gehrman is responsible for some terrible shit. The massacre at the fishing hamlet that basically started almost all the problems in Bloodborne was carried out by Gehrman and his early hunters. The state we see him in is sad and i like the guy, but he definitely did some fucked up shit in the past
For me, Lucatiel from Dark Souls 2, has to be on this list. Unlike other great figures, she is not a demigoddess or legendary general, someone amazing with a great destiny. She's just a person, a warrior, who doesn't want to succumb to the curse of the undead, because she doesn't want to lose her mind, her judgment, her memories. She wants to live normally, only to be consumed by the curse in the end. And from my side, I can empathize much more with that motivation.
If you pick one from Sekiro, it has to be urangutan the sculptor. The guy literally transforms into the demon of hatred. From bloodborne you can just pick anyone
Honestly, I think Genichiro has one of the most tragic fates. He works his ass off and fights through everything, losing his humanity, and so much more yet can’t save his homeland.
No mention of slave knight Gael? That guy is the unsung hero of the painted world. Man traveled the world of dark souls for maybe millenia, until there was nothing but ash left, all in search of the dark soul so that the child he cared for could paint a new world for her and others since their world was succumbing to rot. Gael made himself into a monster just to get what he needed, and left bits of his cloak for us to follow, knowing we would have to stop him and finish his quest. Gael is absolutely my top favorite characters next to Artorias.
I think it's somewhat important to mention that Morgott was also known as Morgott the Grace Given, likely meaning that at some point Marika had gifted grace to Morgott. So even after all he had been through, his mother was kind enough to grant him what he had been denied at birth.
Lucatiels Brother, Aslatiel, was literally just around the corner before she finally succumbed to hollowing. She was searching for him, but even if she found him, it would have been a fight to the death. Tragic, and if she succeeded, even more tragic.
Ludwigs got it for me. Went from chivalrous knight who was berated and called a beast (based on his dialogue when you tell him no). He held on as long as he could till the only thing that brought him comfort was small sprites of light that only he could see. He eventually lost his mind and had to be put down only to awaken in the Hunters Nightmare where he kept frenzing and killing with the only moment of clarity coming to him in the midst of a battle to the death with our Good Hunter. And even when you "kill" him, HES TECHNICALLY NOT DEAD AND YOU CAN TALK TO HIS SEVERED HEAD but at least he's literate even if hes bordering on insanity. When you talk to him, you can either LIE and bring him comfort by stating the hunters mirror the chivalric warriors of old or you can tell him the truth that his life's work basically backfired and that the hunters are no more than bloodstarved beasts. You can choose to either kill him for good this time or leave the area to which you find that Simon (another hunter trapped in the dream) mercy killed him for you. Best part, if you dont complete the dlc in its entirety, the cycle renews and he technically has this happen to him all over again. With the majority of the others on this list, once they die, its done and over. With Ludwig, he died twice. Once in the awakened world, and again in the afterlife of the hunters nightmare.
I don't deny what Aldrich did wasn't sinister but the lore on becoming a man Eater then a God Eater is complicated. Heard whispers that he was forced into some deeds to become a Decon before transitioning into the God Eater he's become. The game never clears up the timelines which took place before and during the events. It was stated to be a half truth on his part becoming a prisoner of his fate. By The Decons of the deep. Stranger still is the conversey on revolving when and how the decons became obsessed with the idea of Worshiping Aldrich not to get consumed themselves
Darkeater Midir and Slave Knight Gael, one an immortal dragon raised by the gods like Gwyn and tasked to fight the abyss and was slowly corrupted, the other a disposable soldier forced to fight and die for eons at the behest of the gods like Gwyn and in the end sought the dark soul of man for the painter so she could paint a new peaceful world, however gael would never life to see it as he knew he was no champion and that the dark soul would ruin him. So at the end of the world, Uncle Gael in his final fight having gone hollow is struck down by you.
i'd have to say gael even if yhorms is sad as hell to. gael was brought back to life as cannon fodder, was a nobody, finally found a purpose after hundreds of years, looked everywhere for the pygmies, became completely insane, died before he could fullfill his mission. the reason why the girl was making the painting was to give a peaceful place for gael to rest but he never got to see it.
Morgott by far had the worst fate. Right off the bat he was born an abomination and his fate was sealed from the start. Thrown into the sewers and tortured (the shackles). How he didn't turn out like Mohg is wild. Instead he chooses to uphold the same ideology that shunned him. All the others had a chance to do something in life and benefit from it, Morgott never had any chance for anything other then suffering, awake and sleeping.
Imma argue messmer even though he isn’t technically a “hero” he was a genuine demigod who showed compassion and was forced to confine away after committing atrocities in the name of a mother who did not want him
Man… morgott. Nothing but pain and suffering that lineage caused him. Even as his second phase “power up” is activating it sounds like he is in agonizing pain. Devout, unshakable loyalty to a corrupt “god”, a father that was never going to prioritize being a father because of duty and a mother that is physically and emotionally disgusted by you for centuries. Raised in a damn dungeon from childhood… shackled by your own mother. Physically deformed more or less his whole life. All for things 1000% out of his control.
I think it's a tie between Ludwig and Father Gasgoine. They were already subcoming into their beasthood when you arrive on the night of the hunt. Both becoming inflected from the beast they had been hunting and slowly giving into their carnal desires for blood.
In a sense, Gwynn is among the most tragic. He and other Lords established Age of Fire, the age of flourish and prosperity. Nothing horrified him more than knowing his age dwindled and forgotten, so he burnt himself and became the very first Lord of Cinder to rekindle the fire. It should be noted that if Age of Fire ends, the gods and their miracles would stop to exist as well, so Gwynn was also trying to save his own kinds by sacrificing Undeads and Ashen ones. He has committed many monstrous actions indeed, but many of those in this list has also done so.
Radahn is likely not charmed Ansbach says when seeing him "General Radahn. A pleasure to see you, after all this time. But those remains do not belong to you. Lord Mohg will have his dignity". Ansbach knows first hand what it's like to be charmed so why wouldn't he recognise the symptoms? If Radahn is charmed why is Ansbach mad at him and not Miquella? And since he respects Radahn why isn't he even more mad at Miquella? Miquella is also inside the gate of divinity and only meets Radahn again in phase 2 (His charm requires physical contact to activate) Radahn also seems to be guarding the gate. Freyja a founding member of Radahn's personnal guard still trusts Miquella with Radahn after the charm breaks. She still cares about Radahn because she won't show up at Enir Ilim if she doesn't learn more about the vow. (She outranks Jerren, he's only a guest commander) So his resurrection is similar to Isshin's, he didn't want to be revived but has to reluctantly agree with the terms because of his honour. And it is possible the battle of Aeonia was Radahn's request to Miquella (The twins' part of the vow Miquella mentions in the memory)
This is a great idea! I felt he wasn’t charmed simply to be on Miquellas side, as nothing in the game said he was. It makes more sense that he feels his honor is to stand as a consort like he promised, and he would fight to death for it.
@@TheMidnightVendetta Vows in the Lands Between seem to be very sacred to uphold, according to turtle pope: "You would do well to remember... Severing a vow, strongest of bonds, has consequences ever more dire". Radahn of all people would know this best being the son of Radagon and Rennala. He would lose all his honour if he ran from Enir Ilim. Although it's not all bad for Radahn, he gets to be Elden Lord as Miquella's consort just like Godfrey was Marika's lord. He even has his hair styled like Godfrey's and uses some of his moves.
@@Ratscracher yeah when framed that way it would be a story book ending. Radhan a warrior consort to a holy emperyan god, just like his idol Godfrey. He is maintaining his promise to Miquella, a vow is in his blood to be important. Miquella is ushering in an age of understanding and no antagonism. Then the tarnished comes in.
No. I don't see anything hinting it in Ansbach's voicelines. And Freyja says "war suits better Radahn", not "Radahn likes war better". Radahn clearly tried to resist Miquella. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would see Caelid, his home, nuked by Malenia for the fun of it. Someone who would just abandon his duty of holding the stars, abandon Leonard. As for if he accepted in the beggining or not Miquella's propossal, I don't know, but I do know, he fought Malenia with everything he had to try and not fall to Miquella.
Feel like Chadfrey should be moved up a few places maybe just past the Burn Ivory King. Bro got used by Marika for the sole purpose of warring against anyone who stood against the Golden Order and once that was done, Marika cast him aside and basically banished him to his death. He was just used and discarded. Chadfrey deserved better
You do realize this is Godfrey we talking about out. The man cares for nothing but battle and once all his worthy enemies are felled wtf do you think he’s gonna do, sit on his hands. Guarantee you Godfrey would be begging for death chilling on the Lands Between with no one to squabble with. Marika did him a solid cuz she knew he was gonna be bored out of his mind and would prolly slaughter all the denizens after being driven to insanity
Marika's goal when casting him was that he would go on a travel without grace and would eventually come back stronger she never abandoned him it was on purpose you learn that in the DLC
At least from what I can tell, Godfrey was beloved and had a really good life under Marika. It also seems that at the very least, Marika acted like she cared for Godfrey. I personally think that Godfrey was only abandoned because of him possibly aging, since what the hell could have taken him down? Edit: I did not know that Marika intended to make him stronger.
@@kinguchiha6212 you are right, and also Godfrey story is not that tragic because he literally doesn't care that much, as a matter of fact if I remember correctly he is only Marika husband at some point because he fought her and losed because she was a god after all, and then was basically forced to be her consort just for later cast him outside
I don’t know if The Abyss Watchers is the most tragic (def up there) But damn if theirs isn’t one of the most memorable & “poetic” (maybe?) & Slave Knight Gael. Living through THE ENTIRE DS world, ending up Hollow & an utter force of hatred (prob what Gwyn saw in his vision & was like “NOPE! Nope nope!” & became a self fulfilling prophecy anyway. THAT’s good tragedy)
W Idea for a video 🔥🔥.I also think that Laurence should be in the list too cuz he is not a hero he is more of a villain but he lore wise he was a legend for the legacy of the Hunters he was a supreme leader for them,he created the healing church and the fact that he knows the think he tries to do will be chaotic for yarnam and still do it is unthinkable.I will continue the comment.
As I said Laurence's thinks that he have become a god like the great one's for just their blood.He doesn't want to know more of them like master William he just wants their power.And in the end he take what he deserved become a cleric beast and be stuck on the nightmare for ever thinking what he have done.Also lava is splash all over him which is symbolic because fire is the main enemy of beasts on Bloodborne that's the reason Laurence's have lava and fire all over him.I think Laurence when he created the church he wanted to know the answer behind the phrase "do ends justifies the means" in the end he get his answer being stuck in his own nightmare knowing that he will never reach the godly level he wants
Also gerhman and Maria have a tragic fate but I think Messmer have also a tragic fate.He is technically a hero but you can count him as a villain too if you want.But his fate is just nah.He was born with two curses one was the fire that burned him for the inside and the other the abysmal snake the also lived inside of him.Being the second favourite child of his mother Queen Marica after Godwig the golden he Will do everything his mother said to him like erase a ancient civilization for sake of her(tell that you have mommy issues with telling me that you have mommy issues). After all of this his mother abandoned him on the land of shadows making the worst mother and the worst ever
As awesome as he is, in a weird way Gael actually succeeds in his goal to make a new painting through us so I don’t know if that is considered “tragic”
@@joshp.1682idk, you can ultimately attain your goal but at such a horrific cost, you question if it was worth it. Gael endured countless eons of time in combat, first as a slave and then questing for the Painter. He bravely consumes the dark soul, knowing he is sacrificing his last bit of identity, an act of courage. So his apparently altruistic sacrifice does offer hope for a better universe, his journey getting there is absolutely tragic
@@ThommyofThenn yes, but at the same time when we see the last of his ownself leave he seems rather not that much concerned, maybe because he barely knew what was happening at that point or didn't have enough sanity to realize he was about to go hollow and fight us even if we are on his side, we can know tho that even if he died or worse he was happy to help the painter, so I would say even if he could have evaded what happened to him, he would still do it for the sake of the painter and the world, or what it's left of it atleast
Gael's story isn't entirely tragic, unlike many on this list, he managed to achieve his goal, even if he didn't like to see it. Also the man was a slave knight who survived to the very end of everything.
Miquella has the power to charm anyone, Radahn probably didn't agree on being his consort knowing how proud of a fighter he is, Miquella probably didn't even let him choose, he abandoned his kindness so he probably just charmed him before Radahn could do anything, same with Mohg
i hate this interpretation. they are on a fight for godhood. thats the whole point of the shattering. and radhan failed to take the capital. he got pegged by morgott. he probably just wanted a warriors death.
@@deathandrebirth-y8x It is a really bitter ending for such an honorable character, but it isn't an interpretation, it's the canon, what I'm mad about is how the festival was to give Radahn an honorable ending and everyone though they did give him that wish, but Miquella had to come over and stripe that honorable death of him just for his own plans
@@Sin-Nombre04 no i mean malenia was supposed to defeat him in battle. before the festival was started. radhan probably already knew of the plan. malenia must have been sure that she could beat him. im thinking someone like gowry gave him a last minute power boost. and radhan took it wanting to defend sellia
@@deathandrebirth-y8x Mallenia fighted Radahn because he refused to become Miquella consort when he asked him in the past, and Mallenia went to force Radahn to do it, Radahn was know as the second strongest demigod in that moment so he winned Mallenia without breaking a sweat but Mallenia used the scarlot rot to kill him even if it was a not honorable move, aldo dooming all of Caelid in the proccess, and the npc that organizes the festival was friends with Radahn and both promosed to one another that if for some reason they became mad or started going against their own rules of honor the other one would kill him to make sure they both died with honor, people seem to forget that Radahn unlike most of the other demigods was actually one of the most genuine nice ones
Shoutout to 3 giants: Hawkeye Gough, one of Gwyn’s 4 knights absolute madlad when wielding a greatbow and kindhearted guy, unfortunately no one seems to like giants so he never got any respect and people even stuffed tree resin in his helmet causing him to go blind. Despite this he still shoots down Kalameet for us. Giant Lord, after his homeland was attacked for seemingly no real reason, Giant Lord retaliated, but was felled by the Bearer of the Curse. Almost all of his soldiers fell, but he was dragged down and imprisoned at the bottom of the Forest of Fallen Giants, until we show up again. In his last fight he’s so desperate, he even tears his own arm off. Lastly there’s Yhorm, Ruler of the Profaned Capital, due to the everlasting prejudice against giants Yhorm could never be good enough a ruler for his people, so he took the chance to make the ultimate sacrifice, to show his devotion and good will for his people and tried to become a Lord of Cinder, it seems, however, that with his sacrifice, everyone in the Profaned Capital went up in flames as well. Definitely not the most tragic, but very sad nonetheless.
Promise doesnt automatically mean that they both agreed to it, a synonym for promise is vow which both can be one way contracts, for example igon vows(promises) to kill bayle and that he will rue this day
the pyrcomancer buddy from dark souls 1 that ends up attacking you in blight town swamp....slave knight gael....true king allant......rom spider and several others from bloodborne....maliketh black blade....guardian ape!
Am I the only one who thinks it’s weird how Radahn turns his head once Miquella piggy backs him. Every time I see the cut scene I just feel like Radahn is not in control of himself. Mans was brought back from the longest nap ever and immediately got charmed, THEN Miquella went into the Gate of Divinty. He would t turn himself into a God without his Lord Brother (I felt like a Black Templar saying Lord Brother lmaoo)
Nameless king should have been here too , he was banished from the kingdom after leading the armies of Gwen for god knows how long and people like havel and ornestien looked up to him yet his name was removed from history, his statues broken and he became hollow
The reason the abyss watchers sacrificed themselves was because they thought that the first flame would help fight off or slow the abyss, and not to gain more power.. either way, that didn’t go so well for farron (or what remains of it.) ironic indeed
Morgatt was given grase his name is the grase given and his great rune acknowledged that he is the true lord of laindal and in his death marital removed his horns and tale gettin rid of his curse you can see in Godfrey’s cutscene that there is grase getting out of morgatt’s body
I wouldn't put godfrey on the list at all, apart from getting exiled, he pretty much did want he wanted in life, fighting and died doing it as well. He is one of the few that had a 'fulfilling' life. And even if you stretch it really hard , then you have characters like gherman or gwyndolin that are simply on another level
personally, I didn't include her because she didn't give me heroic vibes. But if I was to include her I would placed her under morgott due to her being born with a curse
I still wonder if malenia was possibly under miquella’s enchantment just like mohg and miquella’s followers and forced to nuke caelid. Unfortunately there’s no way to really know who had genuine affection for miquella given he nature of his power
Miquella probably had Malenia on a short leash, but not because she was literally charmed, but because she was "charmed", manipulated by Miquella in an emotional level without him using his powers for it.
@@adrielortega7352 that’s a good point, and being able to do that, use people without the need of his powers, honestly paints miquella to be even more villainous!
I wouldn't call Godfrey or Radahn hero's by any stretch, as they were more or less puppets for a broken order. Marika never communed with the greater will, as it had fled the lands between just like the dragon god. So if the greater will never told Marika to wage war, then what was the point of those wars? Why genocide the giants? Why enslave the misbegotten? Whats the point of trying to slay anyone under the carian moon? Or those who live in death? The golden order was broken from the start, and any general willing to lead their armies was seeking blood at the end of the day. Radahn betrayed his family for a chance at being Marika's war dog
Be serious. Gael story isn't tragic, it's heroic at its peak. Fromsoft the lowest of lows to the last standing. That is not tragic but an accomplishment
@@AtomicZamuraiHeroic and tragic aren't mutually exclusive you just freaking watched a video about tragic heroes so I don't why you would make that argument
Artorias: His legacy is a lie, everybody believed he succeeded. Slave Knight Gael: His legacy is true, nobody will ever know. (Except the painter???) Let me know if I got that right. I think Gael is tragic, but I think you could look at it as what he accomplished outweighs his sacrifice. Or something.
Wait, the Abyss Watchers weren't respected with honor tho, in the lore it says that everyone actually feared them for the consequences they brought, it's said that whenever they arrived at a place/city/town everyone had fear because they knew what it meant for them to be here, to fight the abyss and anyone who could have maybe sucumbed it, leading to innocents lives loses and deaths in the crossfire of their fights, all of them leading to the fall of said town/city cause of they fighting and killing, it's said that only ruins were left from where they go, their helmets where feared because when someone saw a bunch of pointy helmet arriving at a place they knew it was the Abyss Watcher, ready to destroy with their army anything relationated with the abyss, the only tragic thing about their story is that they ended up consumed by the abyss just like everyone who tried to fight it like Artorias or Midir, and remember that they are following the fake story of Artorias and not the real one
No Yhorm?? His fate was one of the saddest across all the games. Dude loved his people so much despite how they treated him then in doing what he thought was the right thing he wiped out the whole profaned capital and himself. He literally screams in pain after waking up again. No respect for my dog 😢
Dude yeah that was such a crazy miss
Oh wow yea I forgot about Yhorm he’s definitely up there
The women who got kidnapped and put into Seath's diddler dungeon
Karla
Ivory king is the saddest imo. He was one of the few purely benevolent characters in all of dark souls (I’d argue he’s THE chillest monarch fromsoft had created). But sadly he was in the wrong universe where kindness is not rewarded and he lost everything he worked hard to maintain.
@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub great dlc
"Consort just means right hand man or champion"
Miquella going in for the kiss during the death animation
It can mean varying things… miquella kinda sus though.
@user-wy1et9dk9w it can mean varying things it's just all those things are sexual
midra easily had one of the worst fates imaginable. i don't know if he was a hero but he chose to endure the pain instead of burning the realm of shadow to the ground
Definitely not a hero lol he definitely has the worst fate of any npc in all of ER. That’s for sure.
marika is way worse. she is skewered by the elden beast. at least midra had a choice.
@@deathandrebirth-y8x I mean she was kinda a bitch and did horrible things everywhere, she kinda derserved it, as a matter of fact I think she didn't suffer as much as she should have, and when she was impaled and crucified by the Elden Beast/Greater Will she shatered the Elden Ring knowing that she would probably die or get trapped in the erdtree forever
@@deathandrebirth-y8xfor how long was midra trapped compared to marika? Lest we forget how marika had a spear through her abdomen while midra had his entire body stuck in a branching spear, barely holding on to sanity
@@abridgedgowther5213well considering that Marika wiped out most of the Hornsent. They sent out the Hornsent inquisition Had been there for a long long time Mira was likely studying down there some time before Marika ever Became a god
I have to say Vendrick. When you visit his memories he seem so regretful of what he did to the giants and Nashandra betrayed him, left to Hollow for all eternity.
I think Gehrman could be considered a hero and he sure had a tragic fate, even if probably not as bad as Ludwig
Instantly thought of gehrman. The dialogue of him crying in his sleep and calling for someone to save him is really well done. And just incredibly sad.
@@KingOfhearts72 true
@@KingOfhearts72It’s sad but let’s not forget that Gehrman is responsible for some terrible shit. The massacre at the fishing hamlet that basically started almost all the problems in Bloodborne was carried out by Gehrman and his early hunters. The state we see him in is sad and i like the guy, but he definitely did some fucked up shit in the past
@@diavolo1326 Gehrman didn't initiate that nor is he solely responsible for it. He was just 1 of many.
Isn’t the default ending saving him from that fate?
For me, Lucatiel from Dark Souls 2, has to be on this list. Unlike other great figures, she is not a demigoddess or legendary general, someone amazing with a great destiny. She's just a person, a warrior, who doesn't want to succumb to the curse of the undead, because she doesn't want to lose her mind, her judgment, her memories. She wants to live normally, only to be consumed by the curse in the end. And from my side, I can empathize much more with that motivation.
If you pick one from Sekiro, it has to be urangutan the sculptor. The guy literally transforms into the demon of hatred.
From bloodborne you can just pick anyone
Honestly, I think Genichiro has one of the most tragic fates. He works his ass off and fights through everything, losing his humanity, and so much more yet can’t save his homeland.
Geni was trying to complete a fools errand and while tragic, he brought much of that tragedy on himself.
No mention of slave knight Gael? That guy is the unsung hero of the painted world. Man traveled the world of dark souls for maybe millenia, until there was nothing but ash left, all in search of the dark soul so that the child he cared for could paint a new world for her and others since their world was succumbing to rot. Gael made himself into a monster just to get what he needed, and left bits of his cloak for us to follow, knowing we would have to stop him and finish his quest. Gael is absolutely my top favorite characters next to Artorias.
I think it's somewhat important to mention that Morgott was also known as Morgott the Grace Given, likely meaning that at some point Marika had gifted grace to Morgott. So even after all he had been through, his mother was kind enough to grant him what he had been denied at birth.
Lucatiels Brother, Aslatiel, was literally just around the corner before she finally succumbed to hollowing. She was searching for him, but even if she found him, it would have been a fight to the death. Tragic, and if she succeeded, even more tragic.
Ludwigs got it for me. Went from chivalrous knight who was berated and called a beast (based on his dialogue when you tell him no). He held on as long as he could till the only thing that brought him comfort was small sprites of light that only he could see. He eventually lost his mind and had to be put down only to awaken in the Hunters Nightmare where he kept frenzing and killing with the only moment of clarity coming to him in the midst of a battle to the death with our Good Hunter. And even when you "kill" him, HES TECHNICALLY NOT DEAD AND YOU CAN TALK TO HIS SEVERED HEAD but at least he's literate even if hes bordering on insanity. When you talk to him, you can either LIE and bring him comfort by stating the hunters mirror the chivalric warriors of old or you can tell him the truth that his life's work basically backfired and that the hunters are no more than bloodstarved beasts. You can choose to either kill him for good this time or leave the area to which you find that Simon (another hunter trapped in the dream) mercy killed him for you. Best part, if you dont complete the dlc in its entirety, the cycle renews and he technically has this happen to him all over again. With the majority of the others on this list, once they die, its done and over. With Ludwig, he died twice. Once in the awakened world, and again in the afterlife of the hunters nightmare.
I know he's a boss, but I always felt for the Burnt Ivory King. Artorias would be my other pick.
Having not gotten to Godfrey’s non-gold spirit fight: i gotta say, the actual remembrance fight looks like non-stop AOE attacks.
It's my personal favorite fight in Elden Rings base game. The OST is also amazing. If you think it looks bad and unfair, it's not.
Artorias is sad yes but the saddest part about his story imo is the fate of sif 😭
Yikes lol seeing abyss watcher again makes me wonder how I ever struggled with that fight esp after elden rings demonic movesets
Wyndolin being eaten alive by aldrich while we fight him💀
I don't deny what Aldrich did wasn't sinister but the lore on becoming a man Eater then a God Eater is complicated. Heard whispers that he was forced into some deeds to become a Decon before transitioning into the God Eater he's become. The game never clears up the timelines which took place before and during the events.
It was stated to be a half truth on his part becoming a prisoner of his fate. By The Decons of the deep. Stranger still is the conversey on revolving when and how the decons became obsessed with the idea of Worshiping Aldrich not to get consumed themselves
Nice ranking! Now rank the bosses that are the nicest from each souls game lol (they better be bearfoot)
Bayle n°1💯
@@AtomicZamuraiTHANK YOU BAYLE!!!!
It had to be Ludwig, that shiet was messed up, as pretty much anything in that world.
Darkeater Midir and Slave Knight Gael, one an immortal dragon raised by the gods like Gwyn and tasked to fight the abyss and was slowly corrupted, the other a disposable soldier forced to fight and die for eons at the behest of the gods like Gwyn and in the end sought the dark soul of man for the painter so she could paint a new peaceful world, however gael would never life to see it as he knew he was no champion and that the dark soul would ruin him. So at the end of the world, Uncle Gael in his final fight having gone hollow is struck down by you.
i'd have to say gael even if yhorms is sad as hell to. gael was brought back to life as cannon fodder, was a nobody, finally found a purpose after hundreds of years, looked everywhere for the pygmies, became completely insane, died before he could fullfill his mission. the reason why the girl was making the painting was to give a peaceful place for gael to rest but he never got to see it.
14:25 treacherous twink has me dying
Vyke should've been here
No. Why?
@@beast33G his lore is sad asf
@@Eldenmofo1 how what so terrible happened to him that wasn't his fault?
@@beast33G look up a vyke lore video, trust me bro. I can't explain it all cuz I'd be writing a whole paragraph
@@Eldenmofo1 yeah I watched it
It was me when I realised Arkade won't post the dlc feet ranking 😔
For real though
Morgott by far had the worst fate. Right off the bat he was born an abomination and his fate was sealed from the start. Thrown into the sewers and tortured (the shackles). How he didn't turn out like Mohg is wild. Instead he chooses to uphold the same ideology that shunned him.
All the others had a chance to do something in life and benefit from it, Morgott never had any chance for anything other then suffering, awake and sleeping.
Imma argue messmer even though he isn’t technically a “hero” he was a genuine demigod who showed compassion and was forced to confine away after committing atrocities in the name of a mother who did not want him
Man… morgott. Nothing but pain and suffering that lineage caused him. Even as his second phase “power up” is activating it sounds like he is in agonizing pain. Devout, unshakable loyalty to a corrupt “god”, a father that was never going to prioritize being a father because of duty and a mother that is physically and emotionally disgusted by you for centuries. Raised in a damn dungeon from childhood… shackled by your own mother. Physically deformed more or less his whole life. All for things 1000% out of his control.
I think it's a tie between Ludwig and Father Gasgoine. They were already subcoming into their beasthood when you arrive on the night of the hunt.
Both becoming inflected from the beast they had been hunting and slowly giving into their carnal desires for blood.
In a sense, Gwynn is among the most tragic. He and other Lords established Age of Fire, the age of flourish and prosperity. Nothing horrified him more than knowing his age dwindled and forgotten, so he burnt himself and became the very first Lord of Cinder to rekindle the fire. It should be noted that if Age of Fire ends, the gods and their miracles would stop to exist as well, so Gwynn was also trying to save his own kinds by sacrificing Undeads and Ashen ones. He has committed many monstrous actions indeed, but many of those in this list has also done so.
Radahn is likely not charmed Ansbach says when seeing him "General Radahn. A pleasure to see you, after all this time. But those remains do not belong to you. Lord Mohg will have his dignity".
Ansbach knows first hand what it's like to be charmed so why wouldn't he recognise the symptoms? If Radahn is charmed why is Ansbach mad at him and not Miquella? And since he respects Radahn why isn't he even more mad at Miquella?
Miquella is also inside the gate of divinity and only meets Radahn again in phase 2 (His charm requires physical contact to activate) Radahn also seems to be guarding the gate.
Freyja a founding member of Radahn's personnal guard still trusts Miquella with Radahn after the charm breaks. She still cares about Radahn because she won't show up at Enir Ilim if she doesn't learn more about the vow. (She outranks Jerren, he's only a guest commander)
So his resurrection is similar to Isshin's, he didn't want to be revived but has to reluctantly agree with the terms because of his honour.
And it is possible the battle of Aeonia was Radahn's request to Miquella (The twins' part of the vow Miquella mentions in the memory)
This is a great idea! I felt he wasn’t charmed simply to be on Miquellas side, as nothing in the game said he was. It makes more sense that he feels his honor is to stand as a consort like he promised, and he would fight to death for it.
@@TheMidnightVendetta Vows in the Lands Between seem to be very sacred to uphold, according to turtle pope: "You would do well to remember... Severing a vow, strongest of bonds, has consequences ever more dire". Radahn of all people would know this best being the son of Radagon and Rennala. He would lose all his honour if he ran from Enir Ilim.
Although it's not all bad for Radahn, he gets to be Elden Lord as Miquella's consort just like Godfrey was Marika's lord. He even has his hair styled like Godfrey's and uses some of his moves.
@@Ratscracher yeah when framed that way it would be a story book ending.
Radhan a warrior consort to a holy emperyan god, just like his idol Godfrey. He is maintaining his promise to Miquella, a vow is in his blood to be important. Miquella is ushering in an age of understanding and no antagonism.
Then the tarnished comes in.
No
No.
I don't see anything hinting it in Ansbach's voicelines.
And Freyja says "war suits better Radahn", not "Radahn likes war better".
Radahn clearly tried to resist Miquella. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would see Caelid, his home, nuked by Malenia for the fun of it.
Someone who would just abandon his duty of holding the stars, abandon Leonard.
As for if he accepted in the beggining or not Miquella's propossal, I don't know, but I do know, he fought Malenia with everything he had to try and not fall to Miquella.
Chosen undead was the only one to realize he lives in an endless cycle, he is "cursed with knowledge"
Feel like Chadfrey should be moved up a few places maybe just past the Burn Ivory King. Bro got used by Marika for the sole purpose of warring against anyone who stood against the Golden Order and once that was done, Marika cast him aside and basically banished him to his death. He was just used and discarded. Chadfrey deserved better
You do realize this is Godfrey we talking about out. The man cares for nothing but battle and once all his worthy enemies are felled wtf do you think he’s gonna do, sit on his hands. Guarantee you Godfrey would be begging for death chilling on the Lands Between with no one to squabble with. Marika did him a solid cuz she knew he was gonna be bored out of his mind and would prolly slaughter all the denizens after being driven to insanity
Marika's goal when casting him was that he would go on a travel without grace and would eventually come back stronger she never abandoned him it was on purpose you learn that in the DLC
At least from what I can tell, Godfrey was beloved and had a really good life under Marika. It also seems that at the very least, Marika acted like she cared for Godfrey. I personally think that Godfrey was only abandoned because of him possibly aging, since what the hell could have taken him down?
Edit: I did not know that Marika intended to make him stronger.
@@Koyabi ah damn you're right I completely forgot about that part. I retract my statement, Godfrey belongs where he is lol
@@kinguchiha6212 you are right, and also Godfrey story is not that tragic because he literally doesn't care that much, as a matter of fact if I remember correctly he is only Marika husband at some point because he fought her and losed because she was a god after all, and then was basically forced to be her consort just for later cast him outside
I don’t know if The Abyss Watchers is the most tragic (def up there)
But damn if theirs isn’t one of the most memorable & “poetic” (maybe?)
& Slave Knight Gael. Living through THE ENTIRE DS world, ending up Hollow & an utter force of hatred (prob what Gwyn saw in his vision & was like “NOPE! Nope nope!” & became a self fulfilling prophecy anyway. THAT’s good tragedy)
W Idea for a video 🔥🔥.I also think that Laurence should be in the list too cuz he is not a hero he is more of a villain but he lore wise he was a legend for the legacy of the Hunters he was a supreme leader for them,he created the healing church and the fact that he knows the think he tries to do will be chaotic for yarnam and still do it is unthinkable.I will continue the comment.
As I said Laurence's thinks that he have become a god like the great one's for just their blood.He doesn't want to know more of them like master William he just wants their power.And in the end he take what he deserved become a cleric beast and be stuck on the nightmare for ever thinking what he have done.Also lava is splash all over him which is symbolic because fire is the main enemy of beasts on Bloodborne that's the reason Laurence's have lava and fire all over him.I think Laurence when he created the church he wanted to know the answer behind the phrase "do ends justifies the means" in the end he get his answer being stuck in his own nightmare knowing that he will never reach the godly level he wants
Also gerhman and Maria have a tragic fate but I think Messmer have also a tragic fate.He is technically a hero but you can count him as a villain too if you want.But his fate is just nah.He was born with two curses one was the fire that burned him for the inside and the other the abysmal snake the also lived inside of him.Being the second favourite child of his mother Queen Marica after Godwig the golden he Will do everything his mother said to him like erase a ancient civilization for sake of her(tell that you have mommy issues with telling me that you have mommy issues). After all of this his mother abandoned him on the land of shadows making the worst mother and the worst ever
Where is Gael, the best character in all soul game
As awesome as he is, in a weird way Gael actually succeeds in his goal to make a new painting through us so I don’t know if that is considered “tragic”
Artorias would like to have a word, or three
@@joshp.1682idk, you can ultimately attain your goal but at such a horrific cost, you question if it was worth it. Gael endured countless eons of time in combat, first as a slave and then questing for the Painter.
He bravely consumes the dark soul, knowing he is sacrificing his last bit of identity, an act of courage.
So his apparently altruistic sacrifice does offer hope for a better universe, his journey getting there is absolutely tragic
@@ThommyofThenn yes, but at the same time when we see the last of his ownself leave he seems rather not that much concerned, maybe because he barely knew what was happening at that point or didn't have enough sanity to realize he was about to go hollow and fight us even if we are on his side, we can know tho that even if he died or worse he was happy to help the painter, so I would say even if he could have evaded what happened to him, he would still do it for the sake of the painter and the world, or what it's left of it atleast
Gael's story isn't entirely tragic, unlike many on this list, he managed to achieve his goal, even if he didn't like to see it. Also the man was a slave knight who survived to the very end of everything.
Miquella has the power to charm anyone, Radahn probably didn't agree on being his consort knowing how proud of a fighter he is, Miquella probably didn't even let him choose, he abandoned his kindness so he probably just charmed him before Radahn could do anything, same with Mohg
i hate this interpretation. they are on a fight for godhood. thats the whole point of the shattering. and radhan failed to take the capital. he got pegged by morgott. he probably just wanted a warriors death.
@@deathandrebirth-y8x It is a really bitter ending for such an honorable character, but it isn't an interpretation, it's the canon, what I'm mad about is how the festival was to give Radahn an honorable ending and everyone though they did give him that wish, but Miquella had to come over and stripe that honorable death of him just for his own plans
@@Sin-Nombre04 no i mean malenia was supposed to defeat him in battle. before the festival was started. radhan probably already knew of the plan.
malenia must have been sure that she could beat him. im thinking someone like gowry gave him a last minute power boost. and radhan took it wanting to defend sellia
@@deathandrebirth-y8x Mallenia fighted Radahn because he refused to become Miquella consort when he asked him in the past, and Mallenia went to force Radahn to do it, Radahn was know as the second strongest demigod in that moment so he winned Mallenia without breaking a sweat but Mallenia used the scarlot rot to kill him even if it was a not honorable move, aldo dooming all of Caelid in the proccess, and the npc that organizes the festival was friends with Radahn and both promosed to one another that if for some reason they became mad or started going against their own rules of honor the other one would kill him to make sure they both died with honor, people seem to forget that Radahn unlike most of the other demigods was actually one of the most genuine nice ones
@@Sin-Nombre04 nah. when he asked him in the past he agreed.
Main heroes in soulsborne games have tragic fates too (sometimes)
Shoutout to 3 giants:
Hawkeye Gough, one of Gwyn’s 4 knights absolute madlad when wielding a greatbow and kindhearted guy, unfortunately no one seems to like giants so he never got any respect and people even stuffed tree resin in his helmet causing him to go blind. Despite this he still shoots down Kalameet for us.
Giant Lord, after his homeland was attacked for seemingly no real reason, Giant Lord retaliated, but was felled by the Bearer of the Curse. Almost all of his soldiers fell, but he was dragged down and imprisoned at the bottom of the Forest of Fallen Giants, until we show up again. In his last fight he’s so desperate, he even tears his own arm off.
Lastly there’s Yhorm, Ruler of the Profaned Capital, due to the everlasting prejudice against giants Yhorm could never be good enough a ruler for his people, so he took the chance to make the ultimate sacrifice, to show his devotion and good will for his people and tried to become a Lord of Cinder, it seems, however, that with his sacrifice, everyone in the Profaned Capital went up in flames as well.
Definitely not the most tragic, but very sad nonetheless.
Vyke. In my opinion, not only in the souls lore but in the game they cut his content so my man can’t catch a break.
Promise doesnt automatically mean that they both agreed to it, a synonym for promise is vow which both can be one way contracts, for example igon vows(promises) to kill bayle and that he will rue this day
Because of the timer covering last letter in the thumbnail i've read "Traginc Fatt"
the pyrcomancer buddy from dark souls 1 that ends up attacking you in blight town swamp....slave knight gael....true king allant......rom spider and several others from bloodborne....maliketh black blade....guardian ape!
ludwig and its not even close
Am I the only one who thinks it’s weird how Radahn turns his head once Miquella piggy backs him. Every time I see the cut scene I just feel like Radahn is not in control of himself. Mans was brought back from the longest nap ever and immediately got charmed, THEN Miquella went into the Gate of Divinty. He would t turn himself into a God without his Lord Brother (I felt like a Black Templar saying Lord Brother lmaoo)
Morgott is too low tbh. Bro was confined to the sewers from birth yet died a noble king.
The ones that come to mind to me are gael, artorias, gundyr, gwyn, wolnir...
Nameless king should have been here too , he was banished from the kingdom after leading the armies of Gwen for god knows how long and people like havel and ornestien looked up to him yet his name was removed from history, his statues broken and he became hollow
The reason the abyss watchers sacrificed themselves was because they thought that the first flame would help fight off or slow the abyss, and not to gain more power.. either way, that didn’t go so well for farron (or what remains of it.) ironic indeed
correction radhan did not accept that consort spot he was forced to become it there was no willingness at all
Ah yes my favorite dlc boss “Manos”
Are you NOT going to talk about Gehrman? He clears the list and by a very good margin.
Morgatt was given grase his name is the grase given and his great rune acknowledged that he is the true lord of laindal and in his death marital removed his horns and tale gettin rid of his curse you can see in Godfrey’s cutscene that there is grase getting out of morgatt’s body
I wouldn't put godfrey on the list at all, apart from getting exiled, he pretty much did want he wanted in life, fighting and died doing it as well. He is one of the few that had a 'fulfilling' life.
And even if you stretch it really hard , then you have characters like gherman or gwyndolin that are simply on another level
Actually omens also get constant nightmares but I still don't think it's on ludwig's level
Nobody’s gonna mention the lack of Vyke?
What do you think about Malenia? Somehow I may put her fate among them (those in videos)
personally, I didn't include her because she didn't give me heroic vibes. But if I was to include her I would placed her under morgott due to her being born with a curse
I still wonder if malenia was possibly under miquella’s enchantment just like mohg and miquella’s followers and forced to nuke caelid. Unfortunately there’s no way to really know who had genuine affection for miquella given he nature of his power
Miquella probably had Malenia on a short leash, but not because she was literally charmed, but because she was "charmed", manipulated by Miquella in an emotional level without him using his powers for it.
@@adrielortega7352 that’s a good point, and being able to do that, use people without the need of his powers, honestly paints miquella to be even more villainous!
I wouldn't call Godfrey or Radahn hero's by any stretch, as they were more or less puppets for a broken order. Marika never communed with the greater will, as it had fled the lands between just like the dragon god. So if the greater will never told Marika to wage war, then what was the point of those wars? Why genocide the giants? Why enslave the misbegotten? Whats the point of trying to slay anyone under the carian moon? Or those who live in death? The golden order was broken from the start, and any general willing to lead their armies was seeking blood at the end of the day. Radahn betrayed his family for a chance at being Marika's war dog
Messmer had it worse.
what’s the chest piece at 3:11 ?
He ain’t a hero but I gotta pay respect to everyones favorite snake boi Messmer
Gael?
Be serious. Gael story isn't tragic, it's heroic at its peak. Fromsoft the lowest of lows to the last standing. That is not tragic but an accomplishment
@@AtomicZamurai he still had tho endure madness for an non countable amount of years
He didn’t have a tragic fate did you read the title
@@AtomicZamuraiHeroic and tragic aren't mutually exclusive you just freaking watched a video about tragic heroes so I don't why you would make that argument
Artorias: His legacy is a lie, everybody believed he succeeded.
Slave Knight Gael: His legacy is true, nobody will ever know. (Except the painter???)
Let me know if I got that right.
I think Gael is tragic, but I think you could look at it as what he accomplished outweighs his sacrifice. Or something.
Gascoigne had the worst
Wait can someone explain what he did at 14:29 ? Did he just block that attack or?
He deflected with the Sekiro tear
Iron Wayfarer should be on the list.
Ironic that death was a release for all.
Dude i know you wanted to keep the list short but how you manage to miss yhorm, gael and gehrman?!
Burnt Ivory King will always be the 🐐
I haven’t watched the video but if this is about the protagonist than it’s the hunter bro either dies become a slave or become a goddamn Slug
I’m the only one who expect Messmer The Impaler ?
Imagine being named The Pee Pee Poo Poo Man
Gael had the worst, but fuck midra is a close second
I love how this channel went from “which soulsborne animal bosses would i give a rimjob behind a Wendy’s?” to normal ranking videos 😂
Now if we were to rank which Soulsborne game has the most amount of tragic fates, Bloodborne would be at the top.
where's my goat messmer?!?!?
Messmer wasn't really a hero
Ngl i can't see Morgott as a hero, consideing the things he did to people in his position. He's a hypocrite.
Gerhman should have been here and pretty high
Godwyn is still conscious!
I think the tragedy for Godfrey is having his wife cheat on him with herself
he probably cheated with red headed harlot
Yhorm the giant is pog
Vendrick is the most tragic in my opinion
Nah. He was just blind
Wait, the Abyss Watchers weren't respected with honor tho, in the lore it says that everyone actually feared them for the consequences they brought, it's said that whenever they arrived at a place/city/town everyone had fear because they knew what it meant for them to be here, to fight the abyss and anyone who could have maybe sucumbed it, leading to innocents lives loses and deaths in the crossfire of their fights, all of them leading to the fall of said town/city cause of they fighting and killing, it's said that only ruins were left from where they go, their helmets where feared because when someone saw a bunch of pointy helmet arriving at a place they knew it was the Abyss Watcher, ready to destroy with their army anything relationated with the abyss, the only tragic thing about their story is that they ended up consumed by the abyss just like everyone who tried to fight it like Artorias or Midir, and remember that they are following the fake story of Artorias and not the real one
Almost everyone from BB had a worse fate lol.
OH NICE!!!!
Plin plin plon.
L mean marika
sorry i heard you say queen mari-ka and i cant watch anymore hope you understand 3:02
Vyke?
spellcheck everything in your script bro. referred not reffered
love the lore tho constructive criticism
Me
So isshin being revived by genichero using the black mortal blade, robbed of his free will and forced to follow genichero's wish, that isn't tragic?
vyke
20 seconds no views, bro fell off 😔
Hey! Nice seeing someone who's also this early on the vid >:)
For a few weeks it seemed like this quasi-meme had died out. Glad to see it's still around frankly
Stop. Just stop.
You’re not funny
@@suchaparagone at least I didn't say "every like is one pushup"
i am very early
wow i’m first!
Messmer?