Test Driving the CBR 600 Reverse Trike
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2020
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Install blinkers: drives around 20 minutes with the left blinker on.😂
I do this all the time in my track car as it has no dash just a box with all my switches on.
Welcome to riding motorcycles 101, until you learn to proactively always hit the blinker reset, this will happen and it will happen often
Well, it is a Honda, not a BMW!
@dylan zrim those are usually linked to the steering somehow and this has nothing to do with the steering so
Need helmet
no matter what kind of project car/bike you have, whether it's a one-of-a-kind reverse-trike, or just an old abandoned car. when it starts, runs, and drive after dedicating a lot of your time and money into it, it puts a really big smile on your face and heart
A bigger steering wheel will act as a bigger "lever" over the wheels to make it easier to turn and less squirley. A quick release steering wheel may also make it easier to get in out of that awesome machine. Well done dude!!
Better steering geometry would make it easier to turn the wheel
Quick disconnect steering wheels aren't road legal
@@crippledproductions2194 not in all states.
@@crippledproductions2194 on a car, no. Is this thing legally a car or a motorcycle?
if you go with cart tires on front, that steering wheel will get even harder to turn, with more friction
The front end needs narrowed , take out 3"or 4" off each side and that will help with the squirrelly part and will keep you in your own lane because right now you are almost as wide as your lane
How would narrowing the front make him less squirrelly? That makes absolutely zero sense.
@@esqueue dudes an idiot. yes it needs to be narrowed. but its squirelly due to bump steer and general poor design
Not sure about the squirrely part but it does seem too wide like the width is almost as long as the wheelbase. I noted it before but never commented on it until now that he test drove it, it indeed seems too wide on roads. I'd still drive it you can hear and see how light he was on throttle its just waiting to be unleashed.
@@Narcle0 the car suffers badly from on throttle over steer. the weight bias is WAY too far back.
I think its too wide also. Barely fits in its own lane.
Definitely paint it a bright color! Yellow , Red , Orange , Lime Green , etc... Mirrors a must !! Had me looking back! LoL. First thing I noticed was how wide the front was , not much room on either side to the lines on the road!! Sounds good , looks like a lot of fun !!! Great job Chris !! Look forward to seeing it Complete!!!
*That Exhaust Note* is phenomenal, the thrill, the adrenaline rush! 😳🤩😧🤟
Watching you get that thing started is damn near what I go through to get my Satoh tractor started. I fell bad that it took you a few days and all that work, but... it made me feel better knowing that I'm not the only one who goes through that experience. Thanks, you made me feel better. Keep up the awesome videos and thank you for the enjoyment.
You might want to check the width of the front end. Anything over 8'6" requires an oversized permit, signage and is only permitted on certain roads without escort up to 12'. You may want to check your dimensions. You have to measure from tip to tip of the widest point of the vehicle.
I doubt it's any wider than 7 feet. The go pro makes it look really wide
I'm with you. Looks really wide.
Its the gopro... the lense tends to make things look way wider than they actually are.
@@Fullthrottle440Garage
I was thinking that also, but both wheels are right up on the lines.
It looks wide because the road is narrow.
I was just as excited to see this as you were to ride it. amazing work :)
I have been waiting for so long to see this rip. It has a good road presence. But I noticed that the front wheels have a slight positive camber, which might cause some problems when you shift to thicker meats. Some nice aerodynamic side view mirrors would look awesome on it. Congrats on the successful test drive!!
Think it's the lens on the camera giving it that effect, if you watch the last few minutes in the garage talking all the shelves and his bench are arched, it must be a fish eye lens he uses
@@carguy697 could be the reason, but if you notice his tires after the drive, it seems that the trike moved slightly along the outer edge of the tires and not on the central section or the inside edge
with a tiny wheel like he has it could just be him trying to reduce the scrub radius and make steering easier, but the fisheye lens explanation makes more sense
If you look at the main picture he used for the video posting he has maybe 6 inches on the passenger side and a foot on the driver side and a fisheye lens cannot move shadows no lens can the thing is really way too wide not just a optical illusion.
I think the motorcycle tires up front are perfect. Car tires means more surface contact which will likely make it more difficult to steer! Awesome job
Take it to the track with those tiers and then you will know which ones are better 👍
I'm so happy to see you proud of something you made and saying it, you are pretty hard on yourself most of the time. This thing looks great and seem to be a pleasure to drive (the 2 most important things in a project like that). It just need to be reliable (we'll see) and it would be perfect. Great job man !
I didn't realize how wide the trike is until you took it out on the road.
It's wider than it is long!
Yeah I think it's a little too long too. It's not necessary.
@@brunogomez3037 same with the CBR 1000 buggy it's too big for the motor if he reduce the size it would have better handling and more acceleration wheels are too far apart
You definitely need to make it more narrow. Sick Machine!!!!
2 wide without a doubt
11:25 The dog responding to the honk
WOW! Nice job Chris!!! I was not real keen on this build at the beginning, something just seemed a bit sketchy. SOOOOOOO glad you saw this one through to completion. You had to have done a tremendous amount of research to get the geometry proper. Kudos! Great build, love how it turned out and yes it def looks like a ton of fun to drive/ride! Keep it up young man, you're builds just get better and better :)
Awesome build! Love it! Wide rear tire. Cycle fronts. Viper red paint and radiator fan. Looks super fun!
I'd buy this in a heartbeat. The front track is a bit wide measuring by the road lines but I daily drive it if i could
It is a bit wide, but that might be good since the center of gravity is towards the back of the vehicle.
Yeah, i think i would narrow it 6 inches or so on each side and go from there.
does it qualify as a car? would be great
Ya definitely looks a little bit wide
@Loki the sly one the push from the 600 engine looks great. just found out it classifies as car here YES
You can test that thing in Mexico ;)
He lives in North Carolina so that would be a long drive
Going to Mexico is a state of mind.. I go there often.
Hes to big of a puss
Yes sir so señor..
@@square348apple3 I hope your just being a jokester haha
Way to go the last 2 builds are just amazing and look like a blast would love to have a couple of each keep up the great work
I'm new to this channel. Boy that thing is epic! Love it! and you built it yourself!!! Bravo!
Chris: talking about changing the back wheel.
Me: looking at the rear wheel on the CBR1000 buggy
Def. need eye protection, a 60-70 mph bumble bee can do a lot of damage.
One time I was riding my Honda rebel
250🤣 and had I don't know what hit me right in the glasses at 60 mph....bug guts everywhere I could have been named "one eyed Darren" after that
@@darrenswails true
I got hit right between the eyes by the south end of a northbound bee at about 30 mph. Ouch
I would ride that to work everyday I could. Wider tires for sure, help with evasive maneuvers. No to power sterring!! As always great work. Great way to enjoy the weekend.
Yeah dude!!! That joker is bad ass. I'm digging it. Very glad you're proud of it and enjoyed it brother.
YYYYYYEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is your coolest build yet in my opinion
oh how i know your neighbor loves this project
Its on his property so they can screw off haha
Finally the test i was waiting for this video for a long time now unfortunately it’s not in place where you can test the full potential of cbr 600 engine but it was worth the test, great job👏🏻
I was waiting for an update on this forever
Enjoyed every second of this
I wonder if crazy neighbor was flipping you off behind your back :P
Hard work pays off buddy! Traction will definitely be a beautiful thing, she’ll still slide with a car tire on the rear and will definitely grip better up front with car tires plus it won’t feel so squirrelly.
“Definitely could use some power steering” lol wait until you put car tires up front! Electric power steering may be in your future. It really only needs it from a dead stop. I’m guessing you’re really wanting to make it road legal now 😁
A need for power steering on a front end that light and with tires that narrow is a sure sign of a poorly designed system. He really needs to get that geometry right.
@@bradley3549 not really.... the geometry is fine. Power steering isn’t really a necessity, it would just be easier from a dead stop.
But hey, you can explain what’s wrong with the geometry Mr. UA-cam engineer. I feel the need to be enlightened
@@vinnyvega1985 If the steering effort is enough that he's saying it needs power steering, and he also mentioned it was squirrely, that points to a geometry or likely several geometry problems. It's probably a combination of things to be honest. Steering should be practically effortless on something like this and it really does look like he's struggling with it.
@@bradley3549 well that explained nothing. I’m guessing you’ve never driven anything with out power steering. I’ve owned 2 Honda civics without from the factory and even with Honda’s top tier engineering dept, it wasn’t “effortless”. My daughter has a go cart with out power steering that weighs about 500 pounds with out passengers and that’s hard to steer from a stop. You can dial in the geometry all you want, it will only be so easy to steer
@@vinnyvega1985 Comparing a front engined Honda Civic to this is quite disengenuous. I've owned both a Corvair and a VW Beetle, and currently own a VW Beetle based buggy. All rear engine. So I have some experience without power steering. This guy is impressively ambitious, but he very often overlooks important parts of the design and learns by trial rather than my research.
Your best build yet. It is awesome! Car tires and some aero sheetmetal. Bright Orange color.
Just watched your video. Dude thing looks awesome. You could tell how proud of it you were. She looked like so much fun. But definitely needs wider tires all around. I know u said u like the motorcycle tires but dude you got so much torque there your gonna need all the rubber u can get plus handling will be night and day. Well I hope you do the Honda tires an jeep set up. So cool man.
you should make a fiberglass body/shell for it.
That would make it look nicer !
No he should do a aluminum
like the classic race cars
@@connorstorm4945 fiberglass would be lighter, and it doesn't need to bear any weight. No real point in aluminum.
But it looks like a skeleton
Definitely agree that it looks awesome with the front tires but they are made to grip with camber turning so you are really only using about 25% of their potential. I would say definitely change all around if you plan to go to a track my dude. Love your content man
I will watch all your episodes on your reverse bike because I have been thinking about building one for a long time and see what tips I can find to make it easier for me and then I get inspiration to start building.
Dude that thing is sick beyond believe! I've been waiting for this since the first episode! Love it bro!
best advice my father ever gave my was check the simple stuff first
yeah, but its almost never the spark plugs in my experience, but sometimes I'll change em since they're cheap
@@M.TTT. and easy to replace after that things get costly
Dang, thing barely fits between the lines. Won’t be able to go real wide w front tires.
Beautiful work. Looks like an absolute blast!
Wow she's nice and steady ,no shimmy on the wheel, beautiful craftsmanship sir !
What would it take in your area to make this street legal? When I saw you putting turn signals on it made me think you were going that route. Would be awesome to see one of your build being street legal. Then you could drive anywhere you want. Keep up the good work!
just go to the DMV and register it as a "custom build" emissions and safety regs do not apply due to low production numbers {1}
How would that work if he'd bought a crate engine?
I'm sure that the state has a process for licensing vehicles bought with scraped / junk yard engines.
@@landtowater_2747 the engine has the vin on it, unless he ground it off. or just pull the engine and title it as a non runner.
@@kelli217 as long as you can provide proof of purchase ie legal ownership of the engine then you are good to go. You could give them a receipt to a bone yard for a motorcycle engine and that would cover it.
I would love to know how it performs as it is on a track (with a radiator fan and air in the back tires, of course).
Changing it before you enjoy it to the full might ruin it and you'd never know.
Then if your struggling with rear grip then see what it's lime with a rear car tire first, you night the perfect combination 👌
You've done a man's job, sir. Congratulations. From such nice design concept we all learn.
That thing looks awesome to drive! Regarding the spark plugs, check owners manual for proper plugs and gap, install proper plugs in before making other engine adjustments. Most laser temperature guns are known to be inaccurate on shiny surfaces, I only use thermal imaging for shiny surfaces or drill small hole near each cylinder to use multimeter & K type thermocouple. Also it seemed an intake boot was loose and moving around - unless it was due to camera angle/engine vibs.
In North Carolina a 3 wheeled vehicle is still considered a motorcycle and requires a helmet
In India tricycle is also considered as a car
@@kanartech lmao
in missouri motorcycle riders no longer have to wear helmets if you are over 21
Dude this thing is sick
My take: looks a little wide in front the Honda rims might work but offset will determine that red would look great darker that the 670 maybe some bolt on panels (cockpit sides,dash top) maybe a small windshield like 4-5 in
Definitely a awesome build 👏 👍 👍
I thought it looked alittle wide to in the front end when he was driving down the road. Red would look good to and a little windshield
It is cool been waiting to see it out on the road
Subbed, it looked like you got chewed out last time on the buggy when you slung mud everywhere and tore up the path to the building🤣🤣 be safe bro, I wanna see the buggy up and running!!
I love this trike. I’ve tinkered with the idea for several years now but I never have the time for a large project and my garage is too full. I love it man. I think the wide back tire is a good idea the front ones being narrow seem fine since your front end is already wide but either way but I would consider the rear tire for sure.
Amazing. Last I saw of this thing it was geared so wrong it wouldn’t move.. glad to see you got it running. I think you should change all the wheels and then see what you think.
I still think its geared a little too low.. but it will be fine that way until he gets better at using the clutch.
Can I say "I told you so?" now?
Most underrated street vehicle. Square-ish tire it all the way around and the handling changes drastically. Should have gotten the 01' Civic SI rims. All the way around 205/45-R15!!!!!. Honda SI Yellow!!!!!
And I don't know how cause I haven't put much thought into it. Probably pretty rudimentary... Front fenders that are fixed to the wheels when they turn. Obvious paneling in the back setup in whatever fashion. But front fenders that move with the turning of the steering wheel sounds like a awesome visual piece cruising down the road.
Also... The lighting is AWESOME.
However, hear me out, it should have more pointier agressive shaped headlights. Something elongated triangular shape. If that makes sense.
I'm so "kid in a candy store" over this build. Good job sir, good job.
car tires are way too heavy
@@DieselRamcharger check out how much 00' 01' -ish SI rims weigh... Lol
very cool build man!
I would prefer having it than a superbike because it has that cool kart feeling... I prefer karts than bikes, so I just got my jaw dropped with your build dude!
Keep up the good job!
Greetings from Portugal
When you first showed us the Tires and wheels for this project, I was with a sigh of relief, thinking, Yes, he got it right. Thats the setup that comes to mind when talking about a Reverse Trike. 👍🏼
Looks good but fronts to wide for your lane 🤦♂️👍😂
Front seams a little wide for me other then that I think it's great
I think it looks great with the existing wheels and tires. Put a big wide one on the back for traction and stability. Great job!
All them fancy lights, but couldn't be bothered to put a mirror on it haha, that thing is badass man, really wide for the road, but badass!
This would look sick with a sheet metal body
but bodies decrease line of sight so much. they look cool but suck to live with.
...and flames. Everything is cooler with flames on it. If the house down the street has flames on its mailbox, then that house has a cooler mailbox than you do. Flames = cool.
Fiber glass
@@latherookie fiberglass bodies are first made from aluminum. then you pop a mould off those pieces, and a plug off the mould. once you are that far you can then start re-producing panels. one off bodies are always aluminum in our industry. production bodies are fiberglass or carbon fiber, depending on the depth and width of your wallet.
@@DieselRamcharger you can use clay to structure your fiberglass. Aluminium is an option
car tires don't have the tilting ability that motorcycle tires are designed for. Motorcycle tires keep traction even when tilting.
That’s why you would adjust the camber so your contact patch would be larger round corners than a motorcycle tyre.
@@jasperashworth7202 you can only adjust for that so much.
I think it looks great the way it is! Wait until you go to the track, take the new tires with you just in case. It looks like a blast to drive. I did notice that the front tires took up most of the lane so keep that in mind for the new tires.
nice , sounz great too....seems like your geometry is spot on , as it handles well
RJ
You definitely going to need some side mirrors on it too!
I think you'll need rear traction and definitively front grip on track, so car tyres will be better.
Very impressive, I have to say it seemed to go better than I had anticipated. I like the camera angle which shows the wheels at 3 feet negative toe gives it a odd look. I bet you feel good knowing it was not in vein. Good move on the Honda rims and car tires that will fix the scrub. 165x60x15 would be a good size on the front 15psi
Your home built reverse trike and mine are at about the same point. I’ll share some of my experiences and first ride lessons and maybe they can help you out.
1. The width and length of ours seem to be very similar. Mine was very waspy until I added more caster to the steering knuckles. Might try that out! It can affect steering feedback though.
2. Mine was overheating due to lake of airflow across engine. (Air/oil cooled bandit 1200) I have upsized the oil cooler and relocating it as well as using an aluminum ducting.
3. Keep an eye on your lower controls arm and shock mount. Mine had too many twisting forces and bent my pushrod and lower mount. Working on redesigning it now.
You’ve got an amazing machine and looks like you did great work. It’s been fun building mine at the same time you were building yours and it’s awesome they have come along at the same pace. Maybe one day they will cross paths. Keep the vids coming.
You definitely need to put body panels on it
3:34 do you know what a warm up is??
11:25 The dog reacting to the horn brought me a smile
Love this build! Great work!
“IT WONT RUN”
“The only thing I haven’t done is change the plugs”
Mechanics: 🤦♂️
*changes spark plugs*
*fires right up*
Mechanics: *throws beer*
My list for getting an engine to run...
S. Spark
H. Hows the gas
I. Ignition/wiring
T. Take it to a shop.
It's the literal "SHIT" list.
BRAAAPNATION TJ no air ?
@@gloriushumbug5832 unless it's a two stroke with bad reeds it's probably getting air. other than add a t for timing check it's a solid list and I spose timing even could be considered ignition so I'm going to remember this for sure
Still needs compression
I am really looking forward to seeing how you finish this vehicle. Awesome.
It looks and sounds badass. Great work so far!
Way too wide in the front. Carbs fall down on acceleration.
Those infrared thermometers tend to measure wrong temperatures on plain metal surfaces. To get an accurate measurement you should spray a small spot with mat black spray paint.
Looks like it handled great, have fun! Be safe!
Nice to see this bad boy going
Yeah always check the plugs first when having problems starting
Awesome job mate
Me at the first try: check the spark plugs
Me again: check the spark plugs
And again: check the spark plugs
And again: check the spark plugs
Finally 💨
You have some steering issues at the end of the video, the the wheels were tracking different when you turned... also you put alot of lip service to into tire choice but your suspension set up keeps the tires flat so you are not using the contact patch of the type of tire in use. If you had a lean angle of front tires when you turn then a bike tire is correct but the way your suspension is functioning the contact patch does not change and utilize the actual design of a bike tire so a tire designed for a flat contact patch would be much better. I think you will find that with bike tires like it is you will have understeer and the front end will push thru corners when you try to apply power... then again I only watched little parts of this video and got a bit sketched by the way steering seemed to malfunction at the end and the front tires weren't tracking the same. It was pretty obvious and made me fear for you and others on the road cause it looked as something broke once it took some sick on never ground...but what do know
Nice job, the hours put in have finally paid off 👍 One thing I'm not keen on is the steering rack being supported only in the middle with the ends unsupported; I can see hitting a pothole and having that mounting or the rack itself get bent. Bike tyres aren't ideal, you are getting a very small contact patch compared to car tyres and they will wear quickly. However getting car tyres that will fit those front rims that isn't some rock hard spacesaver tyre is going to be tricky I suspect.
Crazy cool ride. Now I want to make something with my everlast in the garage.
I would Keep motor cycle tires in the front. Looks more badass.
In my opinion, the front wheels are too far apart. A smaller track width could work better...😉
so good.......the sound your machine.....best perfomance...congratulations..... from Bolivia
That thing has quite a footprint. Love the videos.
I would put the car tires on it, install a electric power steering and shorten the front A arms because it looks to be a bit wide in the front end. awesome build cant wait to see it finished.
Great video man! Really like it! keep the good work!
Love that you keep it real! Lrfy blinker and all.. swap the wheels and if you don't like it swap back! It's your toy.
Mike Motomule on his Grave Digger installed a trick lik power steering unit..
Awesome project - thanks for sharing!
Love this build so much, I've bought a 600 ready for something, give the other tires a go, seeing as u already bought them 👍
Love it, "This Thing" has got to be its new name!
Sorry if its old news, I'm new to this channel, but he certainly says This Thing a lot! lol
Blinker led in cockpit. Red paint, yup. Change only back tyre. Looking good Chris.
Hasta hoy UA-cam me recomienda el video... Estaba desde hace tiempo esperando este video 👍👍👍 Excelente saludos desde Costa Rica 🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷
Great work! Drove a slingshot by Polaris I like yours because you built it! Something about homemade!
Some sticky road tires all the way round, wrap body in aluminum, with small windscreen. Then add adjustable front wings on either side of nose, and adjustable wing for the back.
All in light of a little down force, to keep it steady at highway speeds, and a couple of cold air scoops on either side of main hoop.
One for intake, and one ducted into radiator for additional cooling to supply your fan with a positive flow of cool air. A nice set of tuned exhaust to go along with syncing carbs, and some high octane gas, will greatly improve performance.
As will sourcing a electric power steering, that you can adjust the sensitivity on, so that you can adjust the tightness, allowing for more stability at speed in traffic, are a nice twisty mountain back road.
Also indicator LED's on dash, so you know when flashers are on, and can shut them off after turns.
Very nicely done
PS
Red shows during daylight hours, but at low light times, such as dusk, dawn, and at night, not the case, and more red vehicles, have wrecks at these times, as other drivers can't see it, because it becomes basically black
What a beautiful nature in your places!
SUUUUPER cool! Been waiting on this forever, so glad shes going now. I think she needs body panels and a wind screen, maybe just weld on aluminum and give her a paint job. She'd be even cooler if she had a legit enclosed cockpit. I think the front bike tires are gonna turn her better since car tires aren't designed to lean and bike tires are more rounded. A big rear is fine since that isn't really the part that needs to lean. Most of these that have tilt use an electronic tilt, but i dont know how well you can program and youd need to program an arduino or something to control tilt motors of some kind, maybe linear or rotary actuators.
Absolute badass build love it
Luv your builds. Hope your 1 neighbor grows up someday
Need more videos! Everytime i get a youtube notification i jump thinking its ratherbwelding, then get dissapointed when its not
Change the tires get the most you can from your new toy !!! A small front fairing and windshield combined with matching mud guards would be super sick.!!!! Ps you are such a genuine guy it's just plane refreshing to watch your channel. Please keep uploading content there's nothing better than learning being entertained and laughing you rock 🎸 👌