Is This The Future of Electric Vehicle Charging? Hypervolt Installation
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2021
- Is This The Future of Electric Vehicle Charging?
Join me as I discover a new electric vehicle charging point that is leading the way with their technological genius and five star customer service! Meet the Hypervolt Home Electric Vehicle Charging Point! In this video I install the Hypervolt Charger and run through all its features and why I think this is going to have a massive impact on the industry going forward!
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03:50 it would be a ''gland'' or ''grommet'' to put the data cable through 😆 .... the pi and fan are an interesting and unexpected inclusion, thanks for highlighting!
@@homesteadingkosher1005 new product launch coming on Monday it’s a massive upgrade! Stay tuned for our video 8pm 🕗
This man changes his ev chargers faster than some people change their socks.
We have 2 EV’s. For 7 years, we have just used the portable EVSE’s that came with the cars. Just a regular 120 volt outlet.
@@hjeffwallace this is interesting, that you used the charger that came with the car for so long. I was thinking whether that was feasible since the charger is very low power if I am not mistaken, and charging times will be in the double digit hours?
@@hjeffwallace Me too, and I park in the street and have the cable out my second floor window!
😂
I've had one for about 5 weeks and the quality is great, it was good to see the internals.
Just think somewhere Cory is wrestling with loft insulation 😆.
so right! 😂😂😊
Nah. He's busy with a can of pringles...
That was a really good, informative video. Compare that to the first review you did and it just shows how much time and effort you put into these videos. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot!
Nice design... Cool LED RBG color.. Great simple installed. Thumb up!! Cheer!
That looks like a nice unit and would consider fitting one of these..great vid!
I actually build these in my work place, it's so good to see them working and doing such a good job
DM me if you can do a cash deal on the qt. wink, wink
That’s so cool, what company do you work for
I like the idea of rejecting heat, I had this idea long time ago which I mentioned in comments on one of your videos.
Good to see you scoring the amour wire with a junior hacksaw and then wanging them free - just as I was taught 50+ years ago! If you are using a brass compression gland
then just 'wind' the inner sheath at a slight angle in the direction of the 'twist' and the taper part then just slides in. Easy. I used to be able to do these with my eyes shut, I did so many!
Thank you so much for sharing such latest and need of the hour knoweldge.
Another great video, thank you, if all goes well I should have one installed soon.
Nothing worse than dropping cable ties? I’m sure dropping a box of ferrules is worse 🤣
Or a kick in the nuts.
Dipping a cookie in your tea and loosing half of it in the liquid. Just happened to me!
Try a mixed box of 3000 wood screws while walking across a road, very embarrassing 😂
I dropped my big screw box of assorted screws, beautifully sorted, onto a graveled driveway of a customer, about 3000 screws all needed retrieving from in between the gravel 🤢 I was not impressed, and the customer parks their car there.. Luckily i had a strong magnet...tip of the day lol.
Loved the cable tie bag tip. I’m a telecoms installer. Done this for 30 years …. So many noobs slice the top of bag… 😜
Genuinely interested in buying one, and I need to have an EV charger installed.
However, I'll wait for a review that isn't a sponsored advert.
Hmm, in a completely impartial view, this is a pretty solid product and we'd love to help you get one! Just heard it from a friend..
Try the Wallbox which also has a raspberry pi computer and an excellent app
It's supposed to be declared isn't it if its an ad. Maybe he just got it free from them for this ad. To be fair it does look as good as a zappi and cheaper.
@@Lewis_Standing it is declared on his video, but not to UA-cam.
@@simonnzd be
Interesting video. Looks a real neat product. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
i can confirm the reactivness of the support team to all the querys i had before ordering one and modifying my order on the run
Your videos are always factual and informative, this morning it was going to be Zappi all the way but after watching this it will be Hypervolt!
Thanks for taking the time to post this :-)
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed the video
Jordan, I'd love for you to review a Smappee charger soon. Been installing this brand for a few months now and it can do a lot more than this one (and looks much neater). Keep up the good work. Really like the channel.
I'll check it out!
A thousand holes later on the wall of Jordans house.... Interesting engineering using a Pi. Allows for a heck of a lot of possibilities. As an instrumentation guy I I had a chuckle at your comment of a little gadget connector block. I've now ordered an ergostrip.
"Is this the future of electric charging?"
No. For three reasons:
1) Any external appliance that needs a fan (with its entry and exit holes, what with insects, dust and other problems), is doomed to failure;
2) Any external appliance that uses an off-the-shelf Raspberry Pi (not designed for the external environment), is doomed to failure;
3) Any OS-driven device (like the Raspberry Pi) is a security nightmare, able to be easily hacked. And with WiFi doubly so...
All right, with #3 above there are many (many) mitigations which would ameliorate this. But so many vendors use an out-of-the-box distro with no thought to security that I fear they've done the same thing. And even if they try, the attempt is often a Band-Aid rather than a proper security solution.
I'll also say: if they're new, they don't have many customers, so of course their customer service is responsive. Wait until they get a million customers...
Finally: I, personally, simply cannot use this charger. My charge point is two floors below me in the underground car space for my apartment. It gets zero Internet. It certainly can't connect to my home Internet with WiFi or hardwired Ethernet, and it's a cellphone blackspot. All of your touted advanced features are useless (much as I'd love to run a rave down there?)
Oh, and if it makes sparks it's either high voltage or (very) high current. Low voltage cannot spark unless the current is abnormally high (in which case the metal itself is melting...)
Correct, but missing the point, and naturally so, because you get to witness a product at a moment in time. Integrated computing takes longer to deliver, users don't care though. Pis are not there to last, fans are not there to last, they are there to prove a point. On the customer service, we shall see what we do with a million more users.
Otherwise all negatives here are not long term features, in fact they are melting before our very eyes. Only the good stuff remains!
@@alexflav23 Cool! So that means that you'll be replacing all of your installed first gen chargers, for free, when your next generation product that solves these issues is released? Unlike Jordan, most people install a car charger for years, if not decades. A long-term product that uses items that are "not there to last" is doomed to failure.
@John Adriaan Everything we put out is comfortably tested to last 5 years, even with such "non ideal" components. In our whole career of many thousands of chargers, do you know we have only ever replaced one that actually failed? And that was because of a loose connector on a part we buy off the shelf. Sure there's room for much better, but it doesn't mean things are flimsy, they are in fact some of the best around by a country mile. There are other products even further along their vertical integration cycle no doubt(1 or 2 of them), but that won't be true for very long!
Be good to see a comparison table of all chargers showing, cost, features and ease of use. Don't know where this compares with the Zapi which I would have thought was your preference
We are currently pulling this together as it's been requested a few times and there are quite a few differences.
Another great vid..👍
La estética del cargador hypervolt esta muy bonito! buen video.
Muchas gracias Keis! Para nosotros es algo muy importante!
Nice stuff, easy fix 👍
I’d recommend not placing those grub screws on the paving slabs under your work area, particularly when near pebbles. One inadvertent flick with the cable and those screws could disappear instantly and be very hard to find. I speak from experience. I temporarily store small components in a dedicated screw cap container to keep the safe and easy to find later when required.
WOW! a raspberry pi inside?! 😳 BRILLIANT! love rpi's! whack in sd, connect keyb/mouse/hdmi, plug in... BOOM! one fully working mini pc!
the whole thing looks ace! loads of them going in methinks!
yes and the slower the customer services will take to answer.
great video and totally agree that customer service is King
Just about to buy a zappi! That is a nice charger .
Not fastening the lid of a screw carrier box is a lot funnier.
I've been telling people that tie-wrap trick for years, so so handy!
Good video. I'm looking for an alternative to a Zappi as they are currently on a long back order. My worry, is whether Hypervolt customer service will decrease as demand for their product increases ?
Great review mate 👏😎
So good to hear that someone is producing a charger that isn’t hassle. I'm on my second BMW/Mini charger in 6 months but both have given constant error messages and BMW support has been very poor. The Mini Cooper S Electric is brilliant but it’s ruined by its charger.
We'd love to help you out, please get in touch!
@@hypervoltev It’s really kind of you to offer help but it looks like I'm saddled with the BMW charger until they either refund or sort it. It’s so annoying that I come home, plug it in and usually get an error message. Eventually it goes and starts to charge, sometimes half an hour later. I've asked BMW for somebody who really knows their stuff to come out but instead they fob me off to the installer. It’s such a shame because we love the Mini Electric, it's so much fun. I live in France, not sure if you’re over here yet ?
Nice install! Wouldn't mind seeing an infra-red test on that Pi's processor. Awsome bit of kit tho!
Great vlog, not an electrician so didn’t understand most of the terminology but very interesting.
Sorry Jordan I'm with others who say you should attach a wooden mounting board on the wall if you're going to fit many more. Renting or not respect the wall please. Love the videos and keep 'em coming. Regards Col.
He did say in an earlier video that he had permission to be doing it on the rental.
Because of artisan electrics decided to get one installed. I love it
Highly useful video man...love from India
Awesome bit of kit! Although will take something special to beat the Zappi!
On an off note do you have a link for your safety glasses ?
This thing sounds like a really bad idea... that RasPi has a rather high base power consumption already (somewhere around 10W), so the fan will have to run even in our colder climates, which costs money, is a huge invitation for moisture buildup and for insects/ants/.. nesting inside. For an outdoors device you'd normally want IP54 or better. This thing will need cleaning out and checking for corrosion several times a year (except if you want to replace it regularly..)
But hey, it's got a ton of LEDs, so it has to be good..
(and I'm not even getting started about this being cloud connected and the vendor having access to my charging data and possibly others, since the RasPi becomes a regular part of your home network and can be used and abused for anything)
Also, an EV charger should not need OTA capability, as there are no regular changes to the charging standards. Updating the firmware on a charger should be a once-every-few-years thing if it doesn't work right when you buy a new car, but that's all. Doing those updates manually via bluetooth is perfectly fine.
This thing has a lot of shiny but useless features on its advertising brochure, but fails at the most basic requirements.
Appreciate your comments! We are IP54 rated, and now going for full IP66 in our next version. Baseline consumption is a lot less than 10W fortunately, and there is no moisture build up or space for insects or ants to get in as you say. Firmware updates should never be manual, that's something we'll defend to our grave and one of the biggest problems with other products. OTA is quite crucial actually.
It fortunately fails at none of the basic requirements at all, but granted it's hard to please everyone!
@@hypervoltev I wouldn’t touch an EVSE with auto pushed OTA updates with a ten foot barge pole!....... Who wants suddenly changing behaviour without any warning or my express permission. OTA stream of new bugs provided for free. No way to revert back when it all goes tits up with an update. And please don’t tell me your software is so good it has no bugs..... All software ever produced has bugs. Thats a fact. Also, the fan is not a good feature, it’s negative and a downright liability. The fact that a fan is needed in such a device is indicative of a less than optimal design. The internal dissipation should be so minuscule such that a fan and/or case ventilation is simply not required. The only significant product heating should be when mounted in direct sun and/or high ambient. The components and design should be able to withstand that and maintain reliability in a well designed product. Peter.
That Wall is going to need a RSJ when Jordan's finished with it 🔨
Your poor house wall is going to be peppered with holes why didn’t you just put a piece of hardwood on the house wall and then you could’ve screwed the different charges to the wood and then the end of it just discard the piece of wood and your wall wouldn’t of been full of holes :-)
Best thing is it’s not his house........
@@dhdove that is his house 😂
@@Sparklife-UK I think he rents it.....
@@dhdove do you…..
He said in his Tesla charger video he's renting that place
Its the return of the Swiss cheese brick wall, with new additional holes! You are going to have to get a mason to fix all those holes at some point so the house doesn't fall down! 😁😁👍 I am surprised that they don't have heat sinks on the Pi as it can get very hot as well. Here in Texas we have to have them on ones that are outside to keep them from having issues.
I'm on my 2nd Raspberry Pi (Pi 4, w/8GB Ram) , I hope yours holds up well, since it is a dedicated use it should, mine not so much...great vid...peace
It’s like Blackpool illuminations 😃 I live in Blackpool, love your channel
😆👍
Another excellent video.
Watched the entire video...even when located in the U.S.
GREAT personable presentation!
Do you have a link to the extra long bit holder on your drill?
Great charger and great video, thanks Jordan!! I'd be playing with the LEDs all day! 😂
How many chargers can you fit to your wall before the bricks crumble away? Maybe you should be in the guiness book of records for the most amount of different chargers fitted to one wall over a period of time.... 😂
Hi Jordan, another great video. Shame it doesn't have RCD.
Great video - thanks. That tip about cutting the bag of cable ties in the middle had me facepalming. The number of times I've picked up cable ties off the floor.....
The cable-tie tip was great actually. I of course have cable-ties pouring out of the bag.
Them hypervolts looks really decorative very interesting but will it be a game changer like zappi chargers
Unbiased view: YES!
@@hypervoltev 👌🏻 You have my vote! It might be time to change my current charger!
Good idea
@@hypervoltev Is it ocpp 1.6 compliant?
@@dti-21 No, the world's most terrible protocol. We use fully proprietary, to allow for sub 50 millisecond connectivity to our devices. When you watch Jordan update LED Brightness, image that actually goes over AWS. Hypervolt offers everything you need, dashboards, apps, fleet support etc.
Is there a Hypervolt IPO coming up soon? ;) Love the glowing review.
2030! Hold on tight, we're on it!
@@hypervoltev Oh hey guys! Keep me updated! 😂
when you did the alexa bit my alexa said it wasnt sure lol
Er Jordan I think you'll find every EVCP has some computing power inside. It's just properly integrated instead of using a hobbyist computer board, not even using the RPi compute module which is actually designed to be incorporated into other equipment.
There is no reason for anything inside an EVCP to get hot enough to need a fan.
All the stupid lights tell you everything you need to know - 100% wank.
Are you sure it doesn't have internal AC RCD protection? Seems odd that it would have DC and not AC.
And not only that -a cooling FAN - bound to go wrong , why oh why introduce a mechanical cooling device ? In my experience - installing a cooling fan in a device like this is an after thought.
@@eric4709 hmm, I wonder why laptops have fans. That too must have been an afterthought.
@mikeselectricstuff On the LEDs your feedback couldn’t be more wrong if you tried, never underestimate the importance of a good clear UX. As an expert user you understand things a bit too well, but for most people it’s simplicity that wins. On the Pi, happy to report it’s going away very fast, a great way to provide wonderful benefits while integrated computing becomes reality.
@@eric4709 Fan adds perfect circular ventilation and keeps things happy for our Middle East customers. It’s true that we never turn it on for this country, and better yet it will get removed in our next iteration!
@mikeselectricstuff The pi is not the thing to focus on really. The fact that every other charger requires 25 buttons for a firmware upgrade is the real caveat! So while
you are technically right, in terms of user experience for our users that don’t want to care about details, it’s worth seeing things a bit more holistically. Do people care about what kind of computing they get, or do they care about an effortless experience?
I like the fact that there is a pi in there! It would be interesting to modify it so that you control it instead of Hypervolt. Hardwired Ethernet is great too!
Your cable nipple is actually a grommet - we old timers used a lot of 'em back in the 1970s 😀
Does the charging cable really just hang in mid-air? The dock on the Zappi looks much neater!
They come with a dock you can fix to the wall but I didn’t want to have it in my case
You've just had everyone's alexa saying, sorry, I don't know that one! Lol
Try this, instead of cutting the bag in the same direction as the ties, cut a line across the bag, let me know your thoughts.
No functional difference except the removal of the ties from the bag may be slightly harder with the horizontal cut as per your method? Or am I missing something?
@@obcallum6450 If you cut across the middle of the bag, they don't fall out from cutting across either end. That's how I do it.
@@obcallum6450 I know you'll be trying it next time.
great cable tie tip
Excellent video
well done!
Great one Jordan. Just pity about the shadow on the face ! nooooo :(
It has RGB so u can expect to have better fps while driving.
Underrated comment right here.
never seen someone so excited about tacky LEDs 🤣
Question please, do you rate the charger better than the zappi 2? About to get my first charger installed.... Thanks Pete
If it helps, we certainly do!
I have a zappie 2 and it's great.
Great video but all I need from a charger is to charge my car when I want it to do so. The last thing I would want is loads of lights to attract those who might decide the cable is worth pinching
You can turn the lights off in the app if you want to
lol! Your enthusiasm for leds is a bad as mine, I too love a good led display. Zappi still leads the field in terms of ease of installation in my opinion, no need for an external RCD. Also, rear or bottom cable entry options.
Internal RCD being released in just under 2 months fortunately, removing the last interesting thing Zappi does that we don’t yet. No worries, on it!
@@hypervoltev That's great, the easier they are to install the better. I like your display by the way, I am as sucker for RGB lighting.
@@cbcdesign001 You will be pleased to know the LEDs are also vastly improving in the next product iteration to much higher density!
Check out the Sync EV
@@hypervoltev I prefer them without internal A-type RCDs! Then if cables are buried in the wall you don't have two RCDs in-line.
Tks, solid info. Especially the CT idea (available via Wi-Fi if distant?).
going to see how many arms and legs now :-)
They should add a stand for the charging connector so it's not just hanging there, I feel like it is going to hit the wall all the time and get damaged
They do I just chose not to fit it in my install
We supply a holster in every box!
@@hypervoltev how well does the fan work with a cable wrapped around it?
@@UberAlphaSirus Pretty well. It's designed to work for other scenarios, but it works in conjunction with subtle air ventilation that cannot be blocked by the cable, so whether or not cable is wrapped around doesn't matter much.
@@hypervoltev so why does it need a fan open to the elements and insects?
Maybe its just me, but to me having LEDs lighting up the logo is just gimmickry that I would happily do without.
Bet you’re fun at parties, David.
@@SeanDerwin1979 True though, just using a bit more unnecessary power!
@@NOWThatsRichy hardly overloading the grid lol
Love the channel Jordan but why don't you fit a wood patress to that poor wall looks like an aero !!!
mmm brick and mortar flavoured aero... yummy! 😂😂😂
Just sent an enquiry to hypervolt 😀
Looks like a great charger. What can actually be done with the Rpi by the home owner?
Improvements feedback to the product team: have the charge cable finish winding at the top and have a neat position to place the socket. E.g. closer to Andersen A2 design.
Also, why not have the house total load setting as a software feature rather than the rotor knob inside
I'd prefer to have physical ways to change settings on the charger. If you do it via app etc., the device will basically end up useless if the company that makes the charger goes bust, or they just choose to not maintain the software after a couple of years.
Fantastic video
Thanks
Hi, when you were charging you left the cable coiled round the charger, I was told by my installer not to do this! I’ve got an Anderson with the 8.5m cable and unravelling the whole lot when I park the car close is a PITA. Do I need to or can I leave the excess wrapped around the charger like you.
Many thanks
Blue and white was traditionally line one in POTS (Plain Old Telephone System), so good choice!
Hi, that is very informative. I am already Email Hypervolt for more details if the product is comptatible with my car.
Hello 👋 really great insulation i am new to the channel and all your videos are really helpful as in September this year i will be starting my new journey on becoming an electrician starting level 2 diploma in electrical installation i really cant wait to get started. I would like to come to a few of your installs. can I give you a little tip you should have blank out your number plate on your car as you never know who will get your details.
To add to other comment: don’t make your wall look like swiss 🧀 cheese . Maybe add a wood or other decorative panel to wall, and ev chargers to panel, as you can change it or remove it later on. Brilliant! 😆
I wished someone loved me as much as this guy loves this LED
Interesting bit of British kit, I do love an LED as well - already ordered the Zappi (which seems to have production delays)
Never too late to change and upgrade! You save about 200 plus too!
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Great vid. Quick tech question - can you connect the CT clamp to the consumer tail in the CCU rather than run it to the meter cabinet? Assuming only one CCU in the property of course. Thanks!
Yeah you can, we do it that way quite often
Big brother is watching you...
What happens if they go bust does it work without the app?
It does look good though and RPI always a bonus
The charger will function just fine irrespective of whether it has any connectivity or not.
Great video. Morning all. Probably a question that’s been raised and asked before, but is there any safety reason why the charging cable cannot just be left neatly wrapped around the unit, facing down. So basically it’s not held within the holster?
It needs a plug park. And a better way of storing the cord like a compact retractible air hose/extension cord like they have in workshops. Also if the plug was dropped in some dirt or got wet you would want some spray cleaner and a micro fiber cloth to clean it. These would be nice to be at hand in the unit, and could also be sold as consumables for extra revenue and would fit into the wasted space in the housing.
Whoever comes to upgrade the smart meter is going to be cursing you with the mess you’ve made in that meter box
Are there any concerns about having the charger cable dangling rather than plugged into a holder like the Zappi does?
Thinking of things like sea air corrosion etc, as we live 1 road back from the seafront in Blackpool so get the prevailing westerly winds blowing in off the Irish Sea. Although the front of the house is facing away from the sea, the windows do still get covered in sea spray during stormy weather.
I'm also quite impressed with the Knipex stripper.
Hi Jordan - have become hooked on your videos! After 50 years of being petrol head 5.5ltr AMG's, TVR's etc the whole works. I know I must move to electric. First step just ordered a Jag I-Pace for delivery in Sept. Step 2 I need a home charging point. Every time I look at your videos I see another one you love. My plan is to go EV, then a small solar array then larger solar + battery I work in IT and know how things change but if you were spending my money what charge point would you buy. I love the Zappi now I love the Hypervolt aaaahhhh. Help
I think if you’re going Solar and Battery then Zappi is the way forward! They have the best app integration for Solar at the moment.
@@artisanelectrics As a Customer Support Director for an Application vendor you get 100% for response times. I'm a sucker for Apple and LED'S. Apple keeps improving their iPhone and LED's just get better. My other half just watched your Hypervolt video and says he loves that one. Do you provide divorce mediation?
After sales service and reliability are such big issues for this type of kit. A follow up review after a few weeks/months would be great.
It’s been a year. I’ve heard bad things.
I’ve had great after sales support from Hypervolt.
Had an installer fit a unit but it kept failing to connect to my house broadband (my layout is charger outside front door, with router just inside the front door, approx 1meter)
I was able to just send over units serial number and they shipped out brand new unit (was expecting just new raspberry pi or Wi-Fi unit), they also paid for neighbor electrician to carry out the unit swap
How did this pass IP54 rating? Water spray can clearly ingress into the fan.
Good point. It should be in doors or enclosed inside a water proof panel with a filtered venting conduit running down the wall for the fan.
This charger reminds me a lot of my own Wallbox Pulsar Plus which also uses a Raspberry Pi, has LED lighting that indicates status, and even the look and feel of the app looks similar. It even has the same rotary switch to set maximum current and has a PEN fault protection device. Either wallbox are trying shake off their poor customer service reputation by rebranding as HyperVolt, or some ex wallbox engineers have started a new company…maybe! :)
Oh, by the way, I really don’t consider a fan as a feature Jordan. It’s a mechanical moving part that will fail at some point. Passive cooling is always preferable.
Anyway, good to see some variety in the EV charger market. I am also someone who considered a Zappi but didn’t like the look of it.
Looks like a great product, is there a monthly
Subscription? Also Web says “Tariff/scheduled charging mode”, you didn’t mention this. Is this connection to energy provider like Octopus Energy?
Nope, just the product! And yes, you can add your energy tariff and select settings from your energy provider.
Hi Jordan, love watching your videos although I'm not an electrician, I would like to ask you a question and I hope it's not a stupid one, now, I know absolutely zero about ev vehicles but I would like to invest in one in the future. My question is, is there anything to stop anyone (vandals maybe) from pulling out the charging cable from the vehicle? . Keep up the good work buddy, and take care.
Yea the plug locks in to the vehicle while it’s charging or even idling so no problem you don’t need to worry about someone just pulling it out.
Any of your customers having problems with the Hypervolt App ?
Not that I have heard of, and I still have mine with no issues. Phone tech support they are really helpful.
The main thing to shop after reasonable price and charge (cable length - car may change so think about future) needs is warranty - when I purchased my ev wall box in '15 USA market leader was Siemens with 3 years. Now, many Manufacturers have equalled
Juicebox - 3 yrs
ChargePoint - 3 yrs
Etc.
We also offer 3 years as standard!
Might as well get a 32a commando socket and just hot swap chargers, I think your videos are proof that it won’t be a permanent installation haha
Great idea!
That big flourescent light is just screaming "steal me!"
I guess you can just unplug them or turn them off?