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I hate the fact that most of the hype surrounding Steve when he dropped, the only smash reveal trailer that crashed Twitter as far as I know, is now completely irrelevant. What was once possibly the most hype trailer in Smash history, is now the most hated character in Ultimate, and he'll most likely stay like that even if they somehow nerf him.
@@juanmartingutierrez3524 with hope that's the case, as there are still plenty of DLC characters I never gave a shit for and they're somehow the most broken character(s) in the game
As a G&W main who mained him since Melee all the way through. When he finally gets dealt with a good hand and finally makes it to the top tiers, he was given both the blessing and curse of being a good character, but being hated because of his annoying toolkit. Whenever I fight someone, I could feel their frustration radiating off of them. I still love playing my boi G&W, but Rip his reputation. It went from "cool you play G&W?" From Brawl to Sm4sh and now its "Ew you play G&W" in Ultimate. But eh I'll play my flat boi whether hated, bottom, middle, or top tier
I wish they did his moveset similar to how the ultimate mod hewdraw remix does it, they nerf his recovery slightly and make his moveset balanced overall and not as crazy as project m. More fun to play as and against this way imo.
I also main G&W and get a lot of hate from my friends for that. I started maining him not too long ago, after I deemed the Ice Climbers too "tiring" to play, and from then I have honestly gotten a lot better in Smash. Basically you could say he taught me how to play Smash.
Know what I find funny? I rather fight kazuya, rather than Terry. Kazuya it's fun to fight imo. It's scary. Terry though.. Terry is just annoying to me, I recently just learned that his spot dodge has an ATTACK into it xD all this time I thought he smacked me out of it so fast lol.
I understand that thought, but I don't see the fun in fighting a character that if you get hit once it's almost a guaranteed 0 to death. Even terry doesn't have that.
@@ayar2 terry spamming down b is predictable and punishable. It also has a lot of end lag. Kazuyas who use ewgf combos and kill you for no reason is not even close to a comparison.
Came to see my main on here and i can confirm that yes, everything you said about game and watch is true. Especially the smirk. Game and watch is so fun to play that even when I lose I still smile tho
Creating frustrating and unlikeable character playstyles and placing them on top of sometimes beloved characters is in my opinion two very silly things to do. Players who play as frustrating characters and know that they do this, and continue to feel empowered by frustrating the opponent are examples of the kinds of players I don't want to play and can't take seriously. I've been around a long time, played a lot of fighting games, and even done a lot of tournaments and hosted some. I wholey think the fighting game development community has taken our community several steps backwards by including playstyles on any fighter that appeal to these specific type of players. Doing anything you can do to win is sometimes amazing to see but it has a dark side that when developers don't see it can simply ruin their game. IMO Developers have a lot of responcibility they don't know they have.
I would have ranked sonic above Steve in the sense that Steve thrives on making fights as slow as possible or just getting enough time to mine for resources and pickaxes. While sonic could change the matches pace depending on the player. Which is why sonix is harder to beat than acola. Unlike acola who often has to slow down the match by building blocks. Sonix will play incredibly slow to make you complacent but just when you know the vibes he decides to completely change the tempo and destroy you as fast as possible three stocking you at game 2. Unlike Steve there are multiple sonics that are pros that are much closer to each other. Such as wrath Ken, Sonix and more. Unlike Steve when there’s top 2 Steve’s with the other one named onin and the other pro Steve’s are not even close to them. Even then in pro ultimate only one Steve is at the very top and that is acola the other Steve’s are not nearly as consistent. Despite this I agree that Steve overall is still the biggest threat but I thought that I can see sonic as number one as well.
I personally think Sonic is worse than Steve. Steve players at least have a reason to run away, but Sonic players just run to spite you. But what really sends me over the edge is that sound when Sonic is charging. This is the character that will give you a friggin headache. Not to mention, it’s pretty a game of who can take the first stock. If you’re a stock down, you’re probably screwed. But if you’re a stock up, they’re forced to approach. Isn’t that fun to you?
People hates Game and Watch? Now that is news to me. I expected characters like K Rool, Steve, maybe even Kazuya, and Sonic (by the way the Sonic hate is undeserved), but Game and Watch would be one of if not the last character that comes to mind for me. But hey, who am I to smite people's opinions.
It’s like a certain someone who was so skilled of pvp in actual Minecraft that people who know this player must try to avoid direct battle just like smash steve
I main villy. Heres my top 5 hated. 1.Hero: my worst mu, i hate getting blown up at 0. And ppl from other contries means i cant read the menu. 2. Yoshi. He annoys me, allways jumping. And does alot of jumping. Annoying noises, plus crafted yoshi exists. 3. Banjo: boring to fight, supper spammy, waste of potental, and wonderwing is lame. 4. Incin: makes me fill stupid when i get hit. And does crazy damage. Command grabs r never fun. 5. Isabel. Shesvillager but everything i dont like. I dont like shihzus, the color yellow, teaming up w here online sucks and weather i win or lose to here i allways feel unsatified with the battle. I just cant stand that she exists tbh. Although this hate never extends to the player you are free to do what you like. And i allways will play w anyone who is skilled becouse its good practice and i enjoy the game. Ill allways have a gg saved for ya no matter the match. Kazuya rob, and minmin were close. But i kinda like the challenge. And i dont hate sonic hes just boring.
Isabelle and Hero aren't really that good. You can't really lose to Hero unless you're new to the game or mentally impaired and Isabelle isn't very strong or fast🤔
@@JUICE-BOXALT0 hero is villagers worst matchup its very hard 2 win ag him. Its not a skill issue. He is just a villager counter. And also i just dont like looking at isabell.
For a hated character I say mario. They double down and still didn't change his moveset and his spike is nearly impossible to avoid plus the flodder. It's just annoying.
In my opinion, Steve is the best broken character in the series, since, like you said with kazuya, he’s fun to watch, but not to play. He has so much jank like pac man. Also personally, Steve from Minecraft being broken is actually hilarious.
i think minmin doesnt get ENOUGH hate, and its only cus she omly has dabuz, but there is a reason why leo hates her and damn near every top player hates her. like dont get me wrong there is a lot of hate for this char, but it should be worse than sonic and arguably steve because, yk, they require some skill
I heavily disagree that Sonic can't be changed without him "not feeling like Sonic", it sounds like the same kind of argument people use for not changing Ganondorf even though in Smash Bros. he's just "evil punchy man" instead of even resembling how he fights in any of the Zelda games. There's a fan-made version of Sonic in the indie game Rivals of Aether that is way more fun and feels more faithful to his character than the Smash Bros. version, and in the Brawl mod Project M he has quite a few things changed about him that make him more flashy and less annoying to deal with. Sonic can absolutely be changed to be both more fun and more representative of his series, Sakurai just doesn't care enough and maybe is too afraid of pissing off Sonic players to do it.
@@dagoodboy6424 I have lost to many Steves, but I usually beat Sonic players. Sonic is still worse. Also when it comes to watching Sonic is by far the worst character to watch
As a Kazuya player I could rave about his bad neutral and how the average player couldnt EWGF consistently to save their life, but I'm not even that good with Kazuya anyway, and have played against Riddles-level Kazuyas before to much frustration.
4:03 Wow, this is a really stupid statement. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but this is the same kind of mentality as when people made up stories that George Lucas was "trying to destroy Star Wars" by making the prequels.
Watching Sonic and playing against Sonic is different but to be fair I haven't played against a cracked Sonic like Sonix or Ken. But its annoying fighting Steve and watching a Steve
@@Mkdennu’d be surprised I’ve seen corrin hate on different vods. I don’t think she’s top 5 or even top 10 most hated but I’d argue she does have a small but vocal hate base
@@gdmewmewgod6653 Realistically Corrin is probably in the top 30 of hated characters. Although she’s definitely moving up since she’s gotten more popular as of recently. I used to like watching / fighting corrin bc they were the underdog, now they’re everywhere and I’ve gotten tired of their fighting style.
5 Bayonetta. Insane range. Stupid combos. It just goes everywhere. Getting tired of her. 4 Kazuya. Strong moves. Armor and just super combo machine. 3 Snake. Spamming granades and planting mines. Overall cowardly and only a fool would call Snake otherwise. 2 King K Rool. Stupid armor, strong moves and projectiles, and insane bulk. Takes almost forever to kill this beast. 1 Hero. Love this character but has Stupid and busted moves. Strong smashes that can sometimes crits. Ans the spells known as powerhouse.
I gotta say Hero is the most annoying. He isn't hard to beat and he'e basically a free lick, but since he has the lowest attack speed and the worst priority in the game he isn't fun to use. He needs mana to live and all of his moves use it, then most of those moves harm him. He has a garbage recovery that also requires mana, a side-b that cannot kill and the slowest neutral-b in the game while also requiring massive mana, and even has a few moves that just either don't work or kill him. He doesn't have good combos or physics in general but at least he has Thwack...which requires a lot of mana and is obviously very slow💀 I don't really care about fighting him cuz he isn't good but i'm never using that trash again😂
I feel that Pyro/Mythra should be here somewhere, they are the biggest example of pay to win to me. Their super easy to play and incredibly boring to watch and play against.
Most hated smash characters according to me: Byleth: actual waste of a DLC slot Corrin: gross dragon feet Robin: Crappy zoner with a weapon decay mechanic Chrom: a worse Roy + boring Marth clone Lucina: also a boring Marth clone, but she gets a pass because she’s better than Marth.
Honestly surprised ROB and Aegis didn’t make it on the list especially after you specified the “feels like a wasted character slot” point in your criteria for deciding on the most annoying characters to fight in smash.
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I hate the fact that most of the hype surrounding Steve when he dropped, the only smash reveal trailer that crashed Twitter as far as I know, is now completely irrelevant. What was once possibly the most hype trailer in Smash history, is now the most hated character in Ultimate, and he'll most likely stay like that even if they somehow nerf him.
Nah, it will turn around in the future. Everyone someday will be rooting for the steve player who is trying to defeat the broken dlc character
@@juanmartingutierrez3524 with hope that's the case, as there are still plenty of DLC characters I never gave a shit for and they're somehow the most broken character(s) in the game
Now where have I heard this one before?🤔
Banjo also crashed twitter.
@@KaiJie-n8q forgot about that one
"steve is pac man on crack" that made laugh like a crazy man
As a G&W main who mained him since Melee all the way through. When he finally gets dealt with a good hand and finally makes it to the top tiers, he was given both the blessing and curse of being a good character, but being hated because of his annoying toolkit.
Whenever I fight someone, I could feel their frustration radiating off of them. I still love playing my boi G&W, but Rip his reputation. It went from "cool you play G&W?" From Brawl to Sm4sh and now its "Ew you play G&W" in Ultimate.
But eh I'll play my flat boi whether hated, bottom, middle, or top tier
100% with you there, mate. It doesn't matter how "good" he is, he's always fun to play, and that's why I play him. ^_^
I wish they did his moveset similar to how the ultimate mod hewdraw remix does it, they nerf his recovery slightly and make his moveset balanced overall and not as crazy as project m.
More fun to play as and against this way imo.
I also main G&W and get a lot of hate from my friends for that. I started maining him not too long ago, after I deemed the Ice Climbers too "tiring" to play, and from then I have honestly gotten a lot better in Smash. Basically you could say he taught me how to play Smash.
For sonic, i feel like integrating some things from frontiers would do the trick, and have the boost or something replace the spindash
Know what I find funny? I rather fight kazuya, rather than Terry. Kazuya it's fun to fight imo. It's scary.
Terry though.. Terry is just annoying to me, I recently just learned that his spot dodge has an ATTACK into it xD all this time I thought he smacked me out of it so fast lol.
I understand that thought, but I don't see the fun in fighting a character that if you get hit once it's almost a guaranteed 0 to death. Even terry doesn't have that.
@@tdmuck youll rather be killed by a down b spamming terry ? or by one of kazuya's cool combos?
@@ayar2 terry spamming down b is predictable and punishable. It also has a lot of end lag. Kazuyas who use ewgf combos and kill you for no reason is not even close to a comparison.
Came to see my main on here and i can confirm that yes, everything you said about game and watch is true.
Especially the smirk.
Game and watch is so fun to play that even when I lose I still smile tho
Ngl I feel like G&W mains need to play against another G&W while using a different character 😭
Honestly, Sonic embodies his tactics. Three words: *Taunt n Roll*
imo kazuya is more of a dlc luigi with his bad neutral and insane 0 to death
"Bad" neutral
@@sixela2791it’s really bad
My personal opinion is: ice climbers, little Mac , Rosalina, hero, king dedede
Little Mac KO punch
“Minecraft motherfucking Steve” I’m dead🤣🤣
Creating frustrating and unlikeable character playstyles and placing them on top of sometimes beloved characters is in my opinion two very silly things to do.
Players who play as frustrating characters and know that they do this, and continue to feel empowered by frustrating the opponent are examples of the kinds of players I don't want to play and can't take seriously. I've been around a long time, played a lot of fighting games, and even done a lot of tournaments and hosted some. I wholey think the fighting game development community has taken our community several steps backwards by including playstyles on any fighter that appeal to these specific type of players.
Doing anything you can do to win is sometimes amazing to see but it has a dark side that when developers don't see it can simply ruin their game.
IMO Developers have a lot of responcibility they don't know they have.
The fact that characters like Snake, Rob, and Pac-Man aren’t on this list shows how cooked Smash Ultimate really is
How?
Bro have you ever fought Snake?
@@JUICE-BOXALT0 Snake’s one of the most obnoxious characters to fight
9:15 Fantastic joke.
I would have ranked sonic above Steve in the sense that Steve thrives on making fights as slow as possible or just getting enough time to mine for resources and pickaxes. While sonic could change the matches pace depending on the player. Which is why sonix is harder to beat than acola. Unlike acola who often has to slow down the match by building blocks. Sonix will play incredibly slow to make you complacent but just when you know the vibes he decides to completely change the tempo and destroy you as fast as possible three stocking you at game 2. Unlike Steve there are multiple sonics that are pros that are much closer to each other. Such as wrath Ken, Sonix and more. Unlike Steve when there’s top 2 Steve’s with the other one named onin and the other pro Steve’s are not even close to them. Even then in pro ultimate only one Steve is at the very top and that is acola the other Steve’s are not nearly as consistent. Despite this I agree that Steve overall is still the biggest threat but I thought that I can see sonic as number one as well.
For me, both are good. :)
I personally think Sonic is worse than Steve. Steve players at least have a reason to run away, but Sonic players just run to spite you. But what really sends me over the edge is that sound when Sonic is charging. This is the character that will give you a friggin headache. Not to mention, it’s pretty a game of who can take the first stock. If you’re a stock down, you’re probably screwed. But if you’re a stock up, they’re forced to approach. Isn’t that fun to you?
People hates Game and Watch? Now that is news to me. I expected characters like K Rool, Steve, maybe even Kazuya, and Sonic (by the way the Sonic hate is undeserved), but Game and Watch would be one of if not the last character that comes to mind for me. But hey, who am I to smite people's opinions.
They give a giant spacedragon so sh*t hitboxes bevause they dont want him to be "too" big but give min min with her noodle arms with the best range
G&W came from being an ass character from Melee to top tier in SSBU
It’s like a certain someone who was so skilled of pvp in actual Minecraft that people who know this player must try to avoid direct battle just like smash steve
" Steve is like pac-man on crack " Cracked me up ( I know dad jokes )💀💀💀💀💀💀
Steve can literally place blocks in the air to be able to double jump.
I main villy.
Heres my top 5 hated.
1.Hero: my worst mu, i hate getting blown up at 0. And ppl from other contries means i cant read the menu.
2. Yoshi. He annoys me, allways jumping. And does alot of jumping. Annoying noises, plus crafted yoshi exists.
3. Banjo: boring to fight, supper spammy, waste of potental, and wonderwing is lame.
4. Incin: makes me fill stupid when i get hit. And does crazy damage. Command grabs r never fun.
5. Isabel. Shesvillager but everything i dont like. I dont like shihzus, the color yellow, teaming up w here online sucks and weather i win or lose to here i allways feel unsatified with the battle. I just cant stand that she exists tbh.
Although this hate never extends to the player you are free to do what you like. And i allways will play w anyone who is skilled becouse its good practice and i enjoy the game. Ill allways have a gg saved for ya no matter the match.
Kazuya rob, and minmin were close. But i kinda like the challenge. And i dont hate sonic hes just boring.
Absolutely agree, I’m a villager main too
@@andrescube64 ayyy my brothr in arms!
Hope to catch ya in the wild
Isabelle and Hero aren't really that good. You can't really lose to Hero unless you're new to the game or mentally impaired and Isabelle isn't very strong or fast🤔
@@JUICE-BOXALT0 hero is villagers worst matchup its very hard 2 win ag him. Its not a skill issue. He is just a villager counter.
And also i just dont like looking at isabell.
Tbh every Steve I’ve encountered online hasn’t been all that infuriating to fight compared to, let’s say Mario, Wii Fit, and Link
Bayonetta should have never been added to Super Smash Bros.
Just you wait if Shadow gets in smash. He'll be just as fast as Sonic AND hit harder probably.
For a hated character I say mario.
They double down and still didn't change his moveset and his spike is nearly impossible to avoid plus the flodder. It's just annoying.
In my opinion, Steve is the best broken character in the series, since, like you said with kazuya, he’s fun to watch, but not to play. He has so much jank like pac man. Also personally, Steve from Minecraft being broken is actually hilarious.
Was definitely expecting ROB to be on the list
i think minmin doesnt get ENOUGH hate, and its only cus she omly has dabuz, but there is a reason why leo hates her and damn near every top player hates her. like dont get me wrong there is a lot of hate for this char, but it should be worse than sonic and arguably steve because, yk, they require some skill
It’s not just dabuz lol, doramigi just top 8ed two majors in a row
@@mercurysnake274doramigi is fun to watch tho. He doesn’t camp and is always the aggressor
@@xanander4693 I agree, He’s definitely in my top 5 favorite players to watch. His edgeguards are fucking nuts
I heavily disagree that Sonic can't be changed without him "not feeling like Sonic", it sounds like the same kind of argument people use for not changing Ganondorf even though in Smash Bros. he's just "evil punchy man" instead of even resembling how he fights in any of the Zelda games.
There's a fan-made version of Sonic in the indie game Rivals of Aether that is way more fun and feels more faithful to his character than the Smash Bros. version, and in the Brawl mod Project M he has quite a few things changed about him that make him more flashy and less annoying to deal with. Sonic can absolutely be changed to be both more fun and more representative of his series, Sakurai just doesn't care enough and maybe is too afraid of pissing off Sonic players to do it.
I wish they added Jin Kazama as a DLC
Sonic is far worse than Steve
Id say its prob char dependant tbh.
@@dagoodboy6424 I have lost to many Steves, but I usually beat Sonic players. Sonic is still worse. Also when it comes to watching Sonic is by far the worst character to watch
cry@@TheTvSmash
@@TheTvSmash true
Nah Sonic players can at least choose to be aggressive like Sonix recently, but Steve players always camp and is too fucking broken
As a Kazuya player I could rave about his bad neutral and how the average player couldnt EWGF consistently to save their life, but I'm not even that good with Kazuya anyway, and have played against Riddles-level Kazuyas before to much frustration.
I find him kinda fun ngl
Well until i get hit once lol
4:03 Wow, this is a really stupid statement. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but this is the same kind of mentality as when people made up stories that George Lucas was "trying to destroy Star Wars" by making the prequels.
100th like! Good content man
Watching Sonic and playing against Sonic is different but to be fair I haven't played against a cracked Sonic like Sonix or Ken. But its annoying fighting Steve and watching a Steve
Surprised corrin didn’t make the list
Never met someone who hates corrin… they are a lot more fair than the other characters on this list
@@Mkdennu’d be surprised I’ve seen corrin hate on different vods. I don’t think she’s top 5 or even top 10 most hated but I’d argue she does have a small but vocal hate base
@@gdmewmewgod6653 Realistically Corrin is probably in the top 30 of hated characters. Although she’s definitely moving up since she’s gotten more popular as of recently. I used to like watching / fighting corrin bc they were the underdog, now they’re everywhere and I’ve gotten tired of their fighting style.
5 Bayonetta. Insane range. Stupid combos. It just goes everywhere. Getting tired of her.
4 Kazuya. Strong moves. Armor and just super combo machine.
3 Snake. Spamming granades and planting mines. Overall cowardly and only a fool would call Snake otherwise.
2 King K Rool. Stupid armor, strong moves and projectiles, and insane bulk. Takes almost forever to kill this beast.
1 Hero. Love this character but has Stupid and busted moves. Strong smashes that can sometimes crits. Ans the spells known as powerhouse.
Number 6 - belmont brothers.
Fax
For me, its Pyra. Her moves are way too fast for how much knockback they do.
I gotta say Hero is the most annoying. He isn't hard to beat and he'e basically a free lick, but since he has the lowest attack speed and the worst priority in the game he isn't fun to use.
He needs mana to live and all of his moves use it, then most of those moves harm him. He has a garbage recovery that also requires mana, a side-b that cannot kill and the slowest neutral-b in the game while also requiring massive mana, and even has a few moves that just either don't work or kill him. He doesn't have good combos or physics in general but at least he has Thwack...which requires a lot of mana and is obviously very slow💀
I don't really care about fighting him cuz he isn't good but i'm never using that trash again😂
This was probably the most predictable ranking ever, which is good bc I think it’s 100% true
I like Min Min
As a character right? RIGHT?!?!?!
@@Supersonic37838 yeah, why'd you ask?
@@thechompymage6432 Nothing, have a good day 👍
@Supersonic37838 that sonic pfp goes hard. Where did you find it? (also hello fellow min min mains and or enjoyers)
@@jjbathemeextensions8866 Oh I found it in someone’s community post, if you want I can post it so you can use it
I feel that Pyro/Mythra should be here somewhere, they are the biggest example of pay to win to me. Their super easy to play and incredibly boring to watch and play against.
pyro mythra mains dont know how to actually play the game, they just spam up special and tilt special
Most hated smash characters according to me:
Byleth: actual waste of a DLC slot
Corrin: gross dragon feet
Robin: Crappy zoner with a weapon decay mechanic
Chrom: a worse Roy + boring Marth clone
Lucina: also a boring Marth clone, but she gets a pass because she’s better than Marth.
An intellectual, truly.
And i though meta knight was broken.
*Ness left the chat*
PK FIRE
ness?
super cool video
This is why Isabelle and Steve sucks
I prefer Crash Bandicoot, Rayman, Krystal, and Delphox
I like Steve Steves my main character in super smash bros ultimate
Smash ultimate dlc honestly killed the game, everyone just rocking the same few annoying characters, boring 🗿
OMG so true. I personnally dont main Any DlC and m'y Brother mains Them. I Still Win a lot tho
Honestly surprised ROB and Aegis didn’t make it on the list especially after you specified the “feels like a wasted character slot” point in your criteria for deciding on the most annoying characters to fight in smash.
NESS & LUCAS
I main Ness and Lucas and m'y brothers find annoying AF. And I Win most of the Games lol
You’re SPITTING
I am a sonic main and i agree sonic should be in number 1😂
Classic Sintendo and Smash Ls.
I’m like the only one who hates DK🥲
Annoying to fight
Boring to watch
Wasted slot
Literally all 3 apply to Pyra/Mythra