I still cannot understand how after all these years, videos and projects, you're channel is still this humble. You deserve more viewers and viewers could benefit from your projects.
Thank you so much for this kind of support. Yes, i ask myself that every day of hard work. A lot of other UA-camrs told me that UA-cam is not in favor of edited videos. It prefere blogs, recorded without a script or editing, funny vids and fails, etc...
@@ELECTRONOOBS I love your videos and projects, you do a great job of explaining things and make it interesting. But I definitely don't watch your videos as casually as I do others since it can feel a little overwhelming at times. You can go into so much detail that a casual viewing experience can feel more like instructions and now another project for the viewer to do. Im not trying to be critical, just want to give feedback. Also maybe be a little more clear with your channel update and preview video titles, it makes it easy to miss the real videos about that project
@@tcrenegade thank you very much for your feedback. This kind of comments should help. I try to do my videos as detailed as possible so anyone could follow and repeat the same project. I will try to make better thumbnails and titles so viewers could understand better and faster what the video is about.
I know it can be discouraging and feel like you're fighting a loosing battle when your platform seems to be acting against you but please don't ever give up on your channel your content is amazing. You and a few others are literally the reason I got into tinkering and building projects especially for my kids and the knowledge someone can gain from this channel is priceless. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
You could try to see what material the resistive element is made of and try to find a TCR curve for it to calculate temperature. This is how temp control vaping works with metals such as titanium, nickel, or stainless steel that change resistance with respect to temperature.
Hello...U can use those ICs(DW01 & 8205A) for under voltage protection. To increase over current protection current you just have to use 2 or more of those mosfet (8205A) in Parallel.
I should say you might prefer a smaller microcontroller than the atmega328 since not too much gpios are used here. In this way you might save more space for other components, if needed in future versions. Maybe an attiny one
The new attiny chips such as the attiny1614 or 1616 (or even 402 if it the program is 4kb or less) might be good enough. You'd just need to install the megaTinyCore library for it to work with arduino.
Also, the 1 series attiny such as the 1616 and 1614 (instead of 1606 and 1604) has a built in DAC which could solve your undervoltage protection problem. You could generate a constant voltage and use that as a reference using a comparator or op amp that could drive a mosfet.
What about putting only a large switch switch for the battery. Wouldn´t that solve your problem of always removing the Battery ? Besides that, nice video!!!
12:20 A spring on negative battery contact may have up to 0.1R resistance (I know), so with current of 4A it may cause up to 0.4V drop, which might be critical to power ATMEGA IC by 3.3V. So, adding a flexible cooper wire between top of the spring and PCB may decrease such risks. I did such adjustments on some my device (cells tester), so I know it's possible to solder. The wire goes in a round fashion way, so when spring is compressed, the wire does minimal movements and does not have any risks to crack after many-many times of cell insertion (which was critical in my case).
Sir, I will be glad to hear that what study have you done in this electronics field. Plz, reply 👈 Expecting this answer from a guy like you plz reply 🙏🙏😊
This concept looks like one can use a 555 timer and set it to 10sec to heat the tip. Then reset the timer to heat more. Only need an overcurrent protection circuit for battery. People used vape device as soldering iron and use this tip IIRC. Some posh vape device has digital timer mcu built-in. EN design is a good concept for a battery powered soldering iron. Thumbs up!
@@mrgreenswelding2853 Definitely going to try some 510 tips on my mod. It has an evolv chipset, so the resistance based temp control is top notch... But, as it is also my DD vape, I won't want to modify the firmware settings for soldering specifically (might be needed to improve soldering performance, not sure) ...there are also many other very inexpensive vape controller boards that are great, which might be a good place to start. I do have a dead mod kicking around, board should be good just some bad connections to 510 that need to be redone.. it uses one of the cheap chipsets, I don't remember if its a more modern advanced temp control board or not.. it's at least able to regulate by set wattage though
@ No, It only increase charge current which is unnecessary. To solve the overcurrent protection you should use 2 or 3 the dual mosfets (8205A) in parallel.
Very good projet! For a next version maybe you can measure the temperature by measuring the resistance of the tip? You also can reduce the size of the case and the pcb maybe with a circular pcb wich fit at the back of the soldering iron
Good work, there are some UA-camrs who have that great knowledge, don't worry about channel growth use it for hobby, and definitely channel will take boost soon
Nice project. As far as I know, not all 18650 batteries can deliver 4 or 5 amps. That, I think, is the reason why some charging modules have the over current protection. There are a lot of cheap batteries with lower mAh and discharging capacity. Could it be dangerous to use a non-capable battery? Maybe it would be a good idea to emphasize that in the video description or in the tutorial.
Manual on/off switch but still allow the battery to be charged. Maybe use the resistance of the tip to determine the temperature measured between PWM pulses. The accuracy would be limited to degradation of the tip and tip manufacturing variables.
Awesome project... I have one question How to calculate battery % if it is 4.2V then it's 100% and if load is connected then it is 3.8 - 3.9V it decreases suddenly 70 - 75 % how to measure accurate % of battery?????
@@ELECTRONOOBSthank you sir 😊 I am also taking 1.1 Volt but my question is about battery % monitor. If battery voltage is 4.2V display should show 100% and if battery voltage is 3V (under voltage) the display should show 1% How to get constant % ( like we get in our mobile) if load is connected % suddenly drop it fluctuate according to laod.
Nice job, ^^ but you can improved it by: 1. use 21700 cell like VTC6a (4000mah >30A) 2. use boost converter, TPS61088 (30W), MP3429 (30W), MP3431 (>30W) and change to T12 tip 3. upload program via USBASP to skip bootloader (boot faster ~2s) 4. to prevent chip reboot while heavy load VCC-10uf -> 4.7OHM-0.1uf ->CHIP
5:00 ha!!! you could just use another MOSFET (with lower rDSon) instead of the FS8205A used with the battery protection IC DW01A. The FS8205A (dual N-MOS, 0.025 rDSon), when used both MOSTEFs in series, has total internal resistance 0.05R. This resistance makes 0.15V drop when current is >=3A, according to Ohm low. The 0.15V voltage is a threshold according to datasheet what used to sense on pin #2 (CS - current sense) of DW01A IC, which is dedicated to save for over current. So, to allow, say, 5Amps you need to use other MOSFETs with a little lower resistance, like 0.15V/5A=0.03R and divide on 2 MOSFETs - 0.015 rDSon.
Crazy idea, the resistance should change with temp, so you could make a little pause between heating and measure resistance to calculate the temp, so you should try this with a external source to see if the change is big enough to use in that way
Is essentially the board just the same thing as a vape I seen .8ohm and that fallts within range so would I just be able to vapemod with a custom atomizer solder tip
Awesome!! Would having a boost converter at output to deliver constant power and then switching it help make precise & adjustable temperature control ??
Brother, this is another video that I really enjoyed watching a great deal... indeed an amazing project, 2 thumbs up bro :) May I please know how I can purchase one of those from you ? Thank you so much, Sam 🎵✌🏻
Electronoobs Can you please make a part 2 showing exactly how to make this the way you did on pcb way I'm lost when I go on there site ?and ya I'm definitely a noob ..
hi have you thought about using a small 5A 5v relay after the charging circuit that is controlled by the charging circuit or the controller then you dont have to remove the battery as the relay will isolate the battery from the rest of the electronics. there are SMD types that are just 10mm x 6mm x 5.5 mm which should fit on your board.
Depends on how much you solder. If you don't touch it, the battery stays charged weeks. If each time you press the button 10 seconds, and it draws around 3 amps and the battery is 2200Ah, well, with some calculations we could get the aprox time...
Boa noite Em Primeiro lugar parabéns pelo projeto, pretendo fazer um para mim, você poderia por favor me especificar os valores dos capacitores e resistores 0603 que você usou no projeto? Obrigado
The DW01A which most of those cheap china boards use, doesn´t need to have it´s OC output connected to a mosfet. Just build it´s typical application circuit without the OC mosfet and you´re good to go with an UV protection for 50 Cent or less.
have you ever heard about on/off buttons, this is a cutting edge technology that allows you to shut the device and let the battery in the case at the same time 😂
"...and receive the PCBs in just a couple of days.*" * Depending on: 1. Your PCB design choices 2. PCBWay's current demand for production 3. Where in the world you live 4. Which shipping method you choose 5. Impact of ongoing world events on transport services. It could take well over a month. Policy for compensation due to non-delivery may include terms of up to 3 months. YMMV 🤣
why dont you use a two battery design by changing the length of the soldering iron , without temp control the ic's dont matter because we can get fixed temp soldering irons . use a temp control for the design . its important!
I still cannot understand how after all these years, videos and projects, you're channel is still this humble. You deserve more viewers and viewers could benefit from your projects.
Thank you so much for this kind of support. Yes, i ask myself that every day of hard work. A lot of other UA-camrs told me that UA-cam is not in favor of edited videos. It prefere blogs, recorded without a script or editing, funny vids and fails, etc...
@@ELECTRONOOBS UA-cam actually makes easy money out of those vlogs, so they recommend them mostly
I agree. Your channel is amazing.
@@ELECTRONOOBS I love your videos and projects, you do a great job of explaining things and make it interesting. But I definitely don't watch your videos as casually as I do others since it can feel a little overwhelming at times. You can go into so much detail that a casual viewing experience can feel more like instructions and now another project for the viewer to do. Im not trying to be critical, just want to give feedback. Also maybe be a little more clear with your channel update and preview video titles, it makes it easy to miss the real videos about that project
@@tcrenegade thank you very much for your feedback. This kind of comments should help. I try to do my videos as detailed as possible so anyone could follow and repeat the same project. I will try to make better thumbnails and titles so viewers could understand better and faster what the video is about.
I know it can be discouraging and feel like you're fighting a loosing battle when your platform seems to be acting against you but please don't ever give up on your channel your content is amazing. You and a few others are literally the reason I got into tinkering and building projects especially for my kids and the knowledge someone can gain from this channel is priceless. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
Thank you for this kind of support :))))
One of the best electronics channels on UA-cam.
You could try to see what material the resistive element is made of and try to find a TCR curve for it to calculate temperature. This is how temp control vaping works with metals such as titanium, nickel, or stainless steel that change resistance with respect to temperature.
Hello...U can use those ICs(DW01 & 8205A) for under voltage protection. To increase over current protection current you just have to use 2 or more of those mosfet (8205A) in Parallel.
You can add switch to battery supply. So insted of removing battery just turn switch off...😬
Yes, that's what I was thinking of doing. thanks!
I should say you might prefer a smaller microcontroller than the atmega328 since not too much gpios are used here. In this way you might save more space for other components, if needed in future versions. Maybe an attiny one
The new attiny chips such as the attiny1614 or 1616 (or even 402 if it the program is 4kb or less) might be good enough. You'd just need to install the megaTinyCore library for it to work with arduino.
Also, the 1 series attiny such as the 1616 and 1614 (instead of 1606 and 1604) has a built in DAC which could solve your undervoltage protection problem. You could generate a constant voltage and use that as a reference using a comparator or op amp that could drive a mosfet.
You can program the arduino to tell you when the battery's voltage gets too low . Great project.
Or, add an electronic switch/MOSFET/etc. and just have the Arduino turn the battery off, when the voltage falls too low.
Ótimo projeto como sempre. Não gosto tanto do arduino, mas seus projetos são sempre uma inspiração . Abraço da equipe de Laboratório de Projetos.
What about putting only a large switch switch for the battery. Wouldn´t that solve your problem of always removing the Battery ? Besides that, nice video!!!
12:20 A spring on negative battery contact may have up to 0.1R resistance (I know), so with current of 4A it may cause up to 0.4V drop, which might be critical to power ATMEGA IC by 3.3V. So, adding a flexible cooper wire between top of the spring and PCB may decrease such risks. I did such adjustments on some my device (cells tester), so I know it's possible to solder. The wire goes in a round fashion way, so when spring is compressed, the wire does minimal movements and does not have any risks to crack after many-many times of cell insertion (which was critical in my case).
Sir, I will be glad to hear that what study have you done in this electronics field. Plz, reply 👈
Expecting this answer from a guy like you plz reply 🙏🙏😊
Electronic engineering
@@ELECTRONOOBS KK
Thank You Sir 🙏😊
To solve the battery removal problem, you could maybe use a sliding switch to disconnect the battery from the electronics??
This concept looks like one can use a 555 timer and set it to 10sec to heat the tip. Then reset the timer to heat more. Only need an overcurrent protection circuit for battery. People used vape device as soldering iron and use this tip IIRC. Some posh vape device has digital timer mcu built-in. EN design is a good concept for a battery powered soldering iron. Thumbs up!
wow man this is unbelievable how you solve problems.
Surely you'll find a way for the temp control feature. If they were able to do it on vapes, I strongly believe you could do it too.
Maybe look at a vap board to see what they used.
@@mrgreenswelding2853
Definitely going to try some 510 tips on my mod. It has an evolv chipset, so the resistance based temp control is top notch... But, as it is also my DD vape, I won't want to modify the firmware settings for soldering specifically (might be needed to improve soldering performance, not sure)
...there are also many other very inexpensive vape controller boards that are great, which might be a good place to start.
I do have a dead mod kicking around, board should be good just some bad connections to 510 that need to be redone.. it uses one of the cheap chipsets, I don't remember if its a more modern advanced temp control board or not.. it's at least able to regulate by set wattage though
Dear you're excellent deserves every respect ... Regards
thank you for exploring us with something new :-):-)....PCB looks quite promissing
Just use a SPDT switch with the battery. If it can't handle much amp, use a MOSFET with it.
You can measure the Temperaturen over the resistance in the Tip they must habe a positive temperature coefficient.
Your Videos Great!
Great Job! Really informative and COMPLETE project with all the details needed plus information generally not supplied.
You can solve the overcurrent problem by adding the tp4056 board in parallel. Each board is 3A cutoff two in parallel gives 6A I works without issue.
Interesting. I'll consider that! Thanks!
TP4056 is not a good IC ( the heat is a big problem for this IC ). Better to use TP5100.
@ No, It only increase charge current which is unnecessary. To solve the overcurrent protection you should use 2 or 3 the dual mosfets (8205A) in parallel.
Awesome result ! Looking forward to see the improvements !
Very good projet! For a next version maybe you can measure the temperature by measuring the resistance of the tip? You also can reduce the size of the case and the pcb maybe with a circular pcb wich fit at the back of the soldering iron
Very good ideas :)
@@ELECTRONOOBS I like that idea, like sandwich the battery between pcbs so it's thickness stays a little bit larger than the cell itself
Good work, there are some UA-camrs who have that great knowledge, don't worry about channel growth use it for hobby, and definitely channel will take boost soon
5:15 U can use more FS8205A in parallel to increase current .
Thanks, I'll consider that option :))
I think that you shoulduld show us how could we hack the old vape's board for making soldering iron. Thanks for this great work!
Fantastic. Glad I’m a patrion to your channel
Nice project. As far as I know, not all 18650 batteries can deliver 4 or 5 amps. That, I think, is the reason why some charging modules have the over current protection. There are a lot of cheap batteries with lower mAh and discharging capacity. Could it be dangerous to use a non-capable battery? Maybe it would be a good idea to emphasize that in the video description or in the tutorial.
Manual on/off switch but still allow the battery to be charged.
Maybe use the resistance of the tip to determine the temperature measured between PWM pulses. The accuracy would be limited to degradation of the tip and tip manufacturing variables.
Awesome project...
I have one question How to calculate battery % if it is 4.2V then it's 100% and if load is connected then it is 3.8 - 3.9V it decreases suddenly 70 - 75 % how to measure accurate % of battery?????
Is always acurate because I'm using the internal reference of 1.1V which do not change. Os normal for the voltage to drop a little under high loads...
@@ELECTRONOOBSthank you sir 😊 I am also taking 1.1 Volt but my question is about battery % monitor. If battery voltage is 4.2V display should show 100% and if battery voltage is 3V (under voltage) the display should show 1%
How to get constant % ( like we get in our mobile) if load is connected % suddenly drop it fluctuate according to laod.
I might have to build one..only option is to get boards made ourselves?
Nice job, ^^ but you can improved it by:
1. use 21700 cell like VTC6a (4000mah >30A)
2. use boost converter, TPS61088 (30W), MP3429 (30W), MP3431 (>30W) and change to T12 tip
3. upload program via USBASP to skip bootloader (boot faster ~2s)
4. to prevent chip reboot while heavy load VCC-10uf -> 4.7OHM-0.1uf ->CHIP
It would be interesting to see similar platform wit changeable heads, for example, El. Screw driver, small drill, etc...
i was about to build this right now and i see this video ...nice :D
5:00 ha!!! you could just use another MOSFET (with lower rDSon) instead of the FS8205A used with the battery protection IC DW01A.
The FS8205A (dual N-MOS, 0.025 rDSon), when used both MOSTEFs in series, has total internal resistance 0.05R. This resistance makes 0.15V drop when current is >=3A, according to Ohm low. The 0.15V voltage is a threshold according to datasheet what used to sense on pin #2 (CS - current sense) of DW01A IC, which is dedicated to save for over current. So, to allow, say, 5Amps you need to use other MOSFETs with a little lower resistance, like 0.15V/5A=0.03R and divide on 2 MOSFETs - 0.015 rDSon.
Maybe you could use a usb-c connector an use the extra available power to recharge the battery faster or use as a powersupply when the battery is out?
Crazy idea, the resistance should change with temp, so you could make a little pause between heating and measure resistance to calculate the temp, so you should try this with a external source to see if the change is big enough to use in that way
You look very enjoyable your works,
Actually your follower is 1M++, bro..
The Next, baby mini spot welder..👍
This reminded me on those electric cigarette mods. Even the connector is the same. I wonder is it possible to just screw on the solder tip on it?
Is essentially the board just the same thing as a vape I seen .8ohm and that fallts within range so would I just be able to vapemod with a custom atomizer solder tip
Awesome!! Would having a boost converter at output to deliver constant power and then switching it help make precise & adjustable temperature control ??
This is an awesome project! Is that screw connector a 510? Looks exactly like a vape mod connector.
Brother, this is another video that I really enjoyed watching a great deal...
indeed an amazing project, 2 thumbs up bro :)
May I please know how I can purchase one of those from you ?
Thank you so much,
Sam 🎵✌🏻
Excellent 👏👏👏
Electronoobs Can you please make a part 2 showing exactly how to make this the way you did on pcb way I'm lost when I go on there site ?and ya I'm definitely a noob ..
hi have you thought about using a small 5A 5v relay after the charging circuit that is controlled by the charging circuit or the controller then you dont have to remove the battery as the relay will isolate the battery from the rest of the electronics. there are SMD types that are just 10mm x 6mm x 5.5 mm which should fit on your board.
Have those china factories learned from this and given us the affordable, reliable & portable soldering iron after all these years ?
You should market this! :)
Bravo! Excellent project!
Great effort ! How long would you be able to use it before the battery is empty ?
Depends on how much you solder. If you don't touch it, the battery stays charged weeks. If each time you press the button 10 seconds, and it draws around 3 amps and the battery is 2200Ah, well, with some calculations we could get the aprox time...
Very nice project ! :) I would love to have one
Thank you sir. nice project.
Boa noite Em Primeiro lugar parabéns pelo projeto, pretendo fazer um para mim, você poderia por favor me especificar os valores dos capacitores e resistores 0603 que você usou no projeto? Obrigado
you should make a battery compartment door in the future version so you can remove the battery easily
hey there i ve been observing from first to now....may i know why that banana is kept beside ur projects
Impressive work
The DW01A which most of those cheap china boards use, doesn´t need to have it´s OC output connected to a mosfet. Just build it´s typical application circuit without the OC mosfet and you´re good to go with an UV protection for 50 Cent or less.
Can you make a fully arduino based transmitter and receiver and flight controller with gps, telemetry, barometer for a brushless drone.
Excelente aporte. Gracias. Me interesa, espero hacerlo. 👍
Great Project
what if the resistance will be too low? You have to do some too low resistance protection
Is it possible to integrate the latching circuit that you designed in this build?
Congrate . You just made a e-cigarette.
will this work on phone charger with that output 5v 1 - 2.1A bypassing the battery?
Hi,,,,please continue make BadAss Tank, with your 3d print remote
This is fantastic...
Thank you....
I will try
Hey I want one of those portable iron. What will it cost me for a kit
Excellent, thanks.
To do like you which stream of engineering i should study???
Cool Project
nice! and you can screw on a 510 atomizer as well. ^^
Please upload the hindi version of this video.
Can you make one for me?
How much will it cost to make?
Why not two batteries ?
Where is your Gaint Tank Project, What happens to it?
as always nice video.. very interesting
But can I ask you something....why did you need to remove the battery instead use a mini slide switch to disconnect the battery
Because I forgot to add the switch... 😂
@@ELECTRONOOBS 😂😂
@@ELECTRONOOBS but broi You San still add a switch 😌💗
@@ELECTRONOOBS bro can I have the full set of this project plz
Sir, will you sell your products ?
Dear sir
I went through the RC controller for drone
Is there any receiver and does it bind
Thanks
I don't know about what you are talking about. Please ask questions with details
Use relay in it
thank this neat project...😘
Cool video, thanks :)
Amazing !
amazing!
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How much can i buy one
Can I buy one from you
Dear electro noobs would like to see if you can make electric Arduino air wick timing spray.
Sir I want to learn something from you.
have you ever heard about on/off buttons, this is a cutting edge technology that allows you to shut the device and let the battery in the case at the same time 😂
Please, can you make a bluetooth module
Very cool 😎
Amazing
"...and receive the PCBs in just a couple of days.*"
* Depending on:
1. Your PCB design choices
2. PCBWay's current demand for production
3. Where in the world you live
4. Which shipping method you choose
5. Impact of ongoing world events on transport services.
It could take well over a month. Policy for compensation due to non-delivery may include terms of up to 3 months. YMMV
🤣
so essentially a vape mod with a soldering tip?
😂 best vape hack ever.
why dont you use a two battery design by changing the length of the soldering iron , without temp control the ic's dont matter because we can get fixed temp soldering irons . use a temp control for the design . its important!
También en español?