Some pretty great points in there. I don't have the OG but did jump on the Rossum when it came out. Of the things you mentioned, my favorite is how you really don't have to struggle too hard with getting it to sound good. I've heard SO many people over the years say something like "I don't need an SP because on my DAW I can take a sound, EQ it, run it through this certain plug in, EQ that, compress everything, run it through another 3 plug ins, then run it through a custom computer program I wrote, ....." 😵💫There's something about being able to sample into it without doing anything else and it spits out niceness. One other thing I like about it is the workflow. It's just fun to work on for some reason.
I have an OG sp1200 and it's true there's something about the original it's very inspiring to work on you sample with your ears and create on a personal level in a world of software/hardware with endless sample time the 10 seconds on OG is perfect less thinking more creation this machine has an insane short cut to get straight to the magic
Every points mention here talks to me. I have two SP12 here. We use Jazzcat to upgrade it - +10db mod, filters control, headphones, sample in .... I have to said that SP rocks. My fav machines
The bit rate probably isn't a factor because for example: the Casio SK-1, yamaha vss-30 and Ensoniq MIRAGE are all 8 bit BUT!!! None hits like the MIRAGE. There must be something else inside those samplers that make em drop like a pallet of bricks. The Sp 12 turbo has a different grit from the Ensoniq Samplers. But it's so beautiful.
Besides all of the proportion/synergy talk, the new SP is just a replica. I can hear a noticeable difference. People don't want to accept that the new SPs have different electronics and software, which make for a different instrument. Also, the 2400 shouldn't even be mentioned. They share no relation or connection to SP-1200s, and I'd rather use freeware software than look at one.
No, but it definitely shares a strong familial resemblance. Also, it doesn't really alias much and it doesn't have a real sequencer. Although, it offers more sampling time, synthesizer processing, and variable sample rates.
Totally disagree, floppy’s fail. I have modified my machines for better saving and filter accessibility. I have two OG’s, a Rossum and a S2400. I spoke to Dave Rossum himself at Namm and another guy who help write code back in the day. If they would have e had the tech today, they would have made it clean and that sound due to lack of clarity in the chips would have never happend. Though there is slight difference in sound even between even the OG’s. I’m fortunate to have these machines because I have had them though the late 80’s and 90’s, but you can get that same sound or very close via plugs or the Rossum or S2400. Believe me these machines are not worth $5000. They are not magical, music skills and learning how to play the ideas in your mind is the magic…though I’m a gear head and love to talk shop all the time. No one who consumes music cares on what we use to make music. Does your music it knock? have people bouncing or dancing? To each their own opinions. No unicorns anymore, you can get very close to the sp1200 sound with today’s tools.
But... We dont. I spent many hours, many weeks many Years with cheap matériel and plugs. I finally bought my first sp12 for 1.6K. defintely a total game changer = never go so fast, never love a Sound so much , never have that sequencing so Quick .... And every producer knows that Time IS the Key - for keeping inspiration and mojo Right. So We are ok = its not Magic or Sacred stuff but its absolutely a great Tools. 2400 Is ok but for me not so useful.
Some pretty great points in there. I don't have the OG but did jump on the Rossum when it came out. Of the things you mentioned, my favorite is how you really don't have to struggle too hard with getting it to sound good. I've heard SO many people over the years say something like "I don't need an SP because on my DAW I can take a sound, EQ it, run it through this certain plug in, EQ that, compress everything, run it through another 3 plug ins, then run it through a custom computer program I wrote, ....." 😵💫There's something about being able to sample into it without doing anything else and it spits out niceness. One other thing I like about it is the workflow. It's just fun to work on for some reason.
On top of that, all of those processes have still never sounded like a real OG SP-12 or SP-1200.
I have an OG sp1200 and it's true there's something about the original it's very inspiring to work on you sample with your ears and create on a personal level in a world of software/hardware with endless sample time the 10 seconds on OG is perfect less thinking more creation this machine has an insane short cut to get straight to the magic
Great convo. 💯💯💯
Every points mention here talks to me. I have two SP12 here. We use Jazzcat to upgrade it - +10db mod, filters control, headphones, sample in .... I have to said that SP rocks. My fav machines
you buy SP 1200 In 2024, if you gave up on music industry like this guy
The bit rate probably isn't a factor because for example: the Casio SK-1, yamaha vss-30 and Ensoniq MIRAGE are all 8 bit BUT!!! None hits like the MIRAGE. There must be something else inside those samplers that make em drop like a pallet of bricks. The Sp 12 turbo has a different grit from the Ensoniq Samplers. But it's so beautiful.
Stop giving people GAS :D
What up TDS? On your current project are you using the SP1200 with other samplers for tracks?
Besides all of the proportion/synergy talk, the new SP is just a replica. I can hear a noticeable difference.
People don't want to accept that the new SPs have different electronics and software, which make for a different instrument.
Also, the 2400 shouldn't even be mentioned. They share no relation or connection to SP-1200s, and I'd rather use freeware software than look at one.
Does the emax1 hit hard like the sp1200
No, but it definitely shares a strong familial resemblance. Also, it doesn't really alias much and it doesn't have a real sequencer. Although, it offers more sampling time, synthesizer processing, and variable sample rates.
The new Rossum takes away? You can just pretend you have 10 secs like the OG
@@smokey5100 They both share the limit of 2.5sec/sample, if I recall, and that's much more important.
I like to know, sir what do you think about the SP 2400
I own the s2400 and in my opinion it is in a league of its own, the sound , quantisation it’s just great and workflow. A great instrument
I'd rather use software than a 2400. It's that bad ("bad meaning bad").
2400 isn't interesting, not a Keeper
Totally disagree, floppy’s fail. I have modified my machines for better saving and filter accessibility. I have two OG’s, a Rossum and a S2400. I spoke to Dave Rossum himself at Namm and another guy who help write code back in the day. If they would have e had the tech today, they would have made it clean and that sound due to lack of clarity in the chips would have never happend. Though there is slight difference in sound even between even the OG’s. I’m fortunate to have these machines because I have had them though the late 80’s and 90’s, but you can get that same sound or very close via plugs or the Rossum or S2400. Believe me these machines are not worth $5000. They are not magical, music skills and learning how to play the ideas in your mind is the magic…though I’m a gear head and love to talk shop all the time. No one who consumes music cares on what we use to make music. Does your music it knock? have people bouncing or dancing? To each their own opinions. No unicorns anymore, you can get very close to the sp1200 sound with today’s tools.
But... We dont. I spent many hours, many weeks many Years with cheap matériel and plugs. I finally bought my first sp12 for 1.6K. defintely a total game changer = never go so fast, never love a Sound so much , never have that sequencing so Quick .... And every producer knows that Time IS the Key - for keeping inspiration and mojo Right. So We are ok = its not Magic or Sacred stuff but its absolutely a great Tools. 2400 Is ok but for me not so useful.