Forming ISRAEL in CK3

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  • CK3 Israel is one of the rarest formable nations. CK3 Rare formable nations is a hotly debated topic but israel in ck3 can only be formed via ck3 decision. You have to be Jewish and take the holy land - defending yourself from any CK3 crusades. You also have to start in CK3 ethiopia and try to form an empire. CK3 jewish faith is one of the rarest religions out there as only a few counties start with it!
    Forming ISRAEL in CK3
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 230

  • @TheSocialStreamers
    @TheSocialStreamers  Рік тому +259

    Didn't think I'd need to do this but here we go: THIS IS A GAME! We're not talking modern politics. We're not talking about current issues. This is a game where a man from Ethiopia decides "Yeah, aight, Israel sounds like something I'm going to do today". I'm not having people be anti-Semitic or anti-Arab in the comments, we've all got better things to do with our day. Like watching this video that UA-cam hid from you - ua-cam.com/video/CkaaQgWGSYM/v-deo.html

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому +13

      It's only game why you have to be mad?

    • @jacklovejoy5290
      @jacklovejoy5290 Рік тому +23

      @@owencolbon2400 Ask the crazy people who were denying provable history before Laith deleted their comments

    • @iceberg4240
      @iceberg4240 Рік тому +17

      Common Laith W. It's insane how a video game causes so much stupid arguments

    • @Sevexral
      @Sevexral Рік тому +14

      Im glad u are trying to stop it, I've seen so many Islamaphobes and anti-Semitic people on my shorts feed.

    • @ayvasovskiy6726
      @ayvasovskiy6726 Рік тому +1

      How much do you bench Laith

  • @makiskanyt9269
    @makiskanyt9269 Рік тому +265

    "everyone hates me because I'm Jewish" you knew that's going in the clips channel

    • @makiskanyt9269
      @makiskanyt9269 Рік тому +2

      @medievalmushroom1488 sorry bro they told me to prank em

    • @mshaqed2538
      @mshaqed2538 Рік тому +19

      I mean, that's historically accurate for every Jewish community...

    • @makiskanyt9269
      @makiskanyt9269 Рік тому +1

      @@mshaqed2538 we don't talk about it, it's a video game, all I'm saying is he knew it's going on the clips channel the moment he said it, people get sensitive with this kind of stuff so he knew the risks you are better than that so don't get political homie a joke is a joke.

    • @baxtermortimer1550
      @baxtermortimer1550 Рік тому

      Not even 2 minutes in and Laith makes questionable comments, love it

    • @27Games23
      @27Games23 Місяць тому

      I’m Jewish and when I played this game as a Jewish ruler I said the exact same thing. I’m Jewish in real life, mind you. I found this statement hilarious since I said the exact same thing

  • @MrLurkingShadows
    @MrLurkingShadows Рік тому +147

    "Everyone hates me because I am Jewish." (1:46)
    - Laith, 2023

    • @jacklovejoy5290
      @jacklovejoy5290 Рік тому +19

      Also, every Jew for the past 2,000 years

    • @Bonked-Nebraska
      @Bonked-Nebraska Рік тому +11

      He cries out in pain as he invades and annexes your counties

    • @prussiaball1871
      @prussiaball1871 Рік тому +5

      @@jacklovejoy5290 even longer than that lol

    • @notyourbusiness8475
      @notyourbusiness8475 Рік тому +3

      @@jacklovejoy5290 wonder why that is

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому +2

      @@notyourbusiness8475 because small minded people hate what they don't understand

  • @patrickbohn5235
    @patrickbohn5235 Рік тому +209

    I think the important thing is to give bonuses not just based on a culture or religion existing but rather based on how it would be practiced. CK3 I think does that really well. There are religions and cultures that are more warlike and ones that are more economic but its entirely down to their tenets not any inherent part of the faith or culture. You can have peaceful economics focused versions of any faith, you can have violent expansionist versions of any culture, it all just depends on how that faith or culture is shaped in your game, imo at least that takes it far enough from being just a stereotype to be acceptable

    • @ianpopp446
      @ianpopp446 Рік тому +4

      Well that’s not exactly true. Not all tenets are available to all religious groups like warmonger isn’t allowed by Christians. But it’s def a flexible game

    • @syrialak101
      @syrialak101 Рік тому +6

      @@ianpopp446Don’t they have access to Pursuit of Power, which is essentially the same thing?

    • @Ulriquinho
      @Ulriquinho Рік тому +4

      @@syrialak101 the Catholics have Armed Pilgrimages, which is the same thing.

    • @caniblmolstr4503
      @caniblmolstr4503 Рік тому

      @@syrialak101 pursuit of power doesn't allow crusades. Think yiu meant armed pilgrimages

    • @kolossaleiszeit1757
      @kolossaleiszeit1757 Рік тому

      @@ianpopp446 It's not available to Anrahamic relgions

  • @gabem3593
    @gabem3593 Рік тому +1

    Always love it when you go off topic. You always have something interesting to say!!

  • @Logan0503
    @Logan0503 Рік тому

    I enjoyed this one! I’d love to see more episodes making your way through forming some of the more hidden nations.

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome Рік тому +85

    I'm pretty sure the AI doesn't like to revoke vassalage. They only revoke titles directly, which means you'd have been safe to just give that land to a new vassal.
    Giving land to your children isn't actually a terrible idea, you just need to be paying closer attention to what you're granting. This is actually how you properly manage partitions. If your nonheir child is going to inherit something inconvenient, you can grant them an equal or higher title ahead of time, which will fulfill their inheritance. If you're just granting to your children without checking the territory and inheritance, though, and you'll cause more problems than you solve.
    The Restore the [Faith] High Preisthood decision is a little better than just remaking the title, as it makes the head of faith your vassal, gives you prestige, and boosts the faith's fervor. But it's really not a huge difference if you'd rather have the head of faith. Since having the head of faith as vassal isn't as powerful as it was in CK2, it's mainly just a minor boost to asking them things.

    • @Ulriquinho
      @Ulriquinho Рік тому

      It’s mostly just powerful if you temporal revocable-that way you can appoint your HoF as your bishop. They often have insane levels of learning. I usually try to land my HoF for my reformed religions. But as Judaism isn’t a reformed faith situation, not quite sure what doctrine they have for appointing the bishop.

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Рік тому

      @@Ulriquinhoas rabbinism I established Israel and r established the high priesthood and my bishop became HOF. I revoked my bishop from random courtiers and gave it to the new HOFs it’s probably different on pc but that’s how it was on console

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Рік тому

      @@Ulriquinho Judaism isn’t reformed??

    • @christophersalinas2722
      @christophersalinas2722 Рік тому

      Avignon papacy moment. Having a HOF as your vassal should be a lot more powerful.

    • @Ulriquinho
      @Ulriquinho Рік тому

      @@christophersalinas2722 oh it is reformed, I just meant I don’t know its laws off the top of my head to know if it is worth having the HoF as your vassal. With my pagan playthroughs, I can make it so it is worth it. Sorry, I was typing this at 4 am and was struggling with words.

  • @qurpleispurple
    @qurpleispurple Рік тому +4

    i love this!! hope to see more!

  • @Cohac
    @Cohac Рік тому +13

    I recently finished an Outremer run and it was great fun. Start in 1066, win the first crusade and off you go conquering!

  • @Mickylitman
    @Mickylitman 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm genuinely so glad at how mature the paradox community is. Being Able to have genuine conversations without escalating things.

  • @dr0g_Oakblood
    @dr0g_Oakblood Рік тому +10

    0:47 - Bro she's like a literal Tsundere, and he's Paranoid with Wrathful? Oh boy what a fun time for both of them.

  • @zakhawker344
    @zakhawker344 Рік тому +22

    The AI definitely won't revoke your vassals unless it has a revocation reason (and I've never seen it do that when it does - usually it revokes your primary title)

  • @kingjamestres
    @kingjamestres Рік тому +28

    It's funny you bring up where to draw the line with specific historical topics because I've been thinking recently that Paradox has done an excellent job with that. Take slavery in Vic3, there is no benefit outside of roleplay in keeping it, there is no glorification of it, and at a certain point, it's almost like the game is trying to make you abolish it. Across CK, EU, HOI, and Vic I've personally never come across an instance where I think they had crossed a line and I'm a pretty left-leaning guy. In fact, I'd say the opposite has happened in every GSG that PDX has made any nation that had aspects that were considered positive PDX has ramped that up to another level. So that you get things like Prussian space marines, Spain colonizing the entire world by 1550, and overpowered Viking MAA.

    • @tippikuppi
      @tippikuppi Рік тому +6

      There ought to be slavery and slave trade in CK3. That was the main trade for Vikings anyway: Selling Christians to Muslims and Muslims to Christians, due to fact that both religions forbid to own slaves of your own religion; hence Lindisfarne.

    • @CSDragon
      @CSDragon Рік тому +7

      Unfortunately, that's not much different than the real world. Slavery died out in the west not because it was immoral, but because it was unprofitable. If a worker you hire in the mine dies due to coal lung, it's no big deal put out a job posting. The new miner will work for a few years for a few dollars, then die. But when a slave dies you have to buy a new slave, which could cost hundreds times what a wage costs. Slave owners were incentivized to keep their slaves healthy, not out of any sympathy or human decency, but in the same way you keep a machine well maintained to avoid buying a replacement. Not so with wage laborers. This is why slavery persisted in the plantation south of the US but not the industrial north of the US.
      As an industrializing nation in Vic3, you are incentivized to do the same.

    • @bankaltthree9139
      @bankaltthree9139 Рік тому +1

      @@CSDragon Primarily because in vic3 you cannot have slaves working in factories, at some point you have trains and tractors and chainsaws everywhere and have minimal use for manual labor but need a lot of labor in your factories.
      In real life slavery was mostly ended by western countries because it was immoral, slaves were not that expensive you wouldn't have been able to keep the slave trade going, and dying of black lung would take ~a decade or more depending on living conditions and could be where you sent older slaves, and considering they had enough military might to continue colonizing Africa and Asia they would have been able to forcefully obtain slaves instead of buying them if they wanted.
      Anyways without western countries keeping the slave trade banned its come back and there's now more people enslaved than there was before it was "ended".

    • @piculra7441
      @piculra7441 Рік тому +3

      @Paul Gauthier But slavery was abolished in some places *far* sooner - even back in the medieval era, long before industrialisation was a thing. In the 1220s, the Sachsenspiegel (main law code of the HRE) condemned slavery on a religious basis (calling it "a violation of man's likeness to God"). And in 1315, Louis X of France proclaimed that any slave that steps foot in France should be freed. (Unfortunately, that wording was considered as not applying to the colonies established later on) Sweden and Norway also took measures against slavery around that time.
      In some places, sure, maybe slavery was somehow unprofitable. (Though...I don't see how. It's not like slaves were incapable of working in factories.) But even if it was "incompatible with industrial capitalism", that doesn't explain why it had been abolished for so long in other regions - and it seems to me that the reasons at least in the HRE and Scandinavia were actually about morality. And I don't see a reason why that couldn't be the case, at least in some regions, in later eras.

    • @NA-hy6mg
      @NA-hy6mg Рік тому

      @@piculra7441 that is possible in some cases as if a ruler heard a heartfelt speech it wasnt that difficult for them to do somethng about it but even back then there was still the fact slaves didnt pay taxes which couldve convinced them

  • @thebigsmoker1676
    @thebigsmoker1676 Рік тому

    My friend please have a great day always enjoy your vids.

  • @MrCerealcowflakes
    @MrCerealcowflakes Рік тому +35

    “Destroy everyone in our vicinity”
    Our Abbysinity if you will

  • @jmonty197
    @jmonty197 Рік тому +1

    these are awesome please keep doing them, because then i can try and do it too lmao

  • @uponthefaceoftheabyss4254
    @uponthefaceoftheabyss4254 Рік тому

    Looool my boy getting spicy in this vid

  • @ryannowo5954
    @ryannowo5954 Рік тому +2

    a day in which Laith posts is a good day

  • @AshleyGravesreal
    @AshleyGravesreal Рік тому

    Thanks for this birthday's gift

  • @raviolijones5351
    @raviolijones5351 Рік тому +1

    We love you map man

  • @saintbread5080
    @saintbread5080 Рік тому +4

    I see modifiers that are given to a religion or culture is how their values would shape the society. For example icons in orthodoxy in eu4 give you stability for example or decrease unrest. It might be that there's a ceremony during war that might distract the population from the destruction.

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 Рік тому +3

    This is one of the most fun ideas to pull off at CK3. Enemies everywhere and tons of claims to be made but Paradox added several flavors into rebuilding Israel.

  • @metalvoiceguy1232
    @metalvoiceguy1232 Рік тому +6

    "Everyone hates me because I'm Jewish" -all of Jewish history

  • @jnliewmichael4235
    @jnliewmichael4235 Рік тому +11

    In terms of playable starting Jewish charactets in CK3, there are three faiths that are present, there's the Haymanot Ethiopian Judaism, there's the Khazarian Judaism, and there's actually one character that is a vassal of the Khazars that's follows the Rabbinic faith (east of Crimea)
    Apparently he's a possibly historical (but also has a slight chance of not being real) person who was responsible.for coverting the Khazars.
    I tried to play as him twice a few months back, the first game, ironically, I had my title revoked in a few months, so instant death,
    while the second time it became somewhat tedious that I just gave up. (I think I formed the Kingdom of Caucasus an stopped)

    • @jnliewmichael4235
      @jnliewmichael4235 Рік тому +2

      I only last November discovered Sam Aronow's channel that talks about Jewish history starting from the Stone Age, and has recently reached 1906.
      His video production quality is really damn great (and thankfully he's not the anti-Arab/pro-settlement type)

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому +1

      thats pretty cool, its interesting to hear about these figures who managed to convert people peacefully enmasse.
      In somalia there was a guy who was responsible for making the religion spread a lot and then that same guy went to places in asia like sri lanka.
      that one dude had a massive impact on east african history by merely doing some preaching.
      if it wasn't for people like him its possible the 3 way struggle (islam-christianity-waaqism) would have led to waaqist dominance since the later oromo invasions were lead by waaqist tribes.
      a monothiest non-abrehamic religion could have been dominant pre-colonialism in the area hypothetically, but Islam and christianity had the help of outside sources to spread them so its still unlikely.

  • @saintbread5080
    @saintbread5080 Рік тому

    Let's go more more midnight uploads

  • @joshtaylor9626
    @joshtaylor9626 Рік тому

    Laith I feel like shit to, haven’t been to keep much down. Ah when your dad cooks dinner but he didn’t finish cooking the meat fully

  • @joshuadeal927
    @joshuadeal927 Рік тому +1

    Do more rare formable nations!

  • @MrLocurito
    @MrLocurito Рік тому +3

    i know there's no desicion for this but can you try and unify the dualistic faiths? havent see anyone a video about them

  • @SmokerX91
    @SmokerX91 Рік тому +2

    Please play the vampire the masquerade mod!! Deepest mod I have ever seen for any CK

  • @magnusjurgens4242
    @magnusjurgens4242 Рік тому +3

    Bokoen just uploaded a new CK3 video and I decided to watch it instead of going to bed... Well now im here at laiths new video. I miss you, days with 6 hours of sleep daily

  • @TheColombianSpartan
    @TheColombianSpartan Рік тому

    I'd like ot if you tried one of the kushite warlords

  • @LordBonds
    @LordBonds Рік тому +1

    U bastard, I was literally recording a vid of this! 😂

  • @zsh7862
    @zsh7862 Рік тому +2

    why do i get the feeling that the description was written by chatgpt

  • @Mowraq
    @Mowraq Рік тому +1

    I havent really watched many of your ck3 videos. Did you make one for a zoroastrian nation?

    • @joshtaylor9626
      @joshtaylor9626 Рік тому

      He hasn’t but one or two years ago he did a Trebizond video where he went and conquered the Persian region to flip

  • @Bluesonofman
    @Bluesonofman Рік тому +4

    "Everyone hates me cause I am Jewish." First time?

  • @longschlongsilver7628
    @longschlongsilver7628 Рік тому

    I'm not so knowledgeable about many features in paradox games that could be considered offensive or stereotypical, but I know about the indulgence system, mainly in Ck2. So, as far as I'm aware, the other PDX games are similar to ck2 in that you pay the Pope money to have your sins forgiven, aka you exchange gold for piety. It's a common misconception nowadays that indulgences were simply a "pay your way to heaven" scheme. In Catholic theology, indulgence is an action you can perform to heal the wounds left behind by your sins that were already forgiven prior, thus lessening your time in purgatory. Of course, an indulgence you can perform is one of charity, so many wealthy nobles would use this and pay the Church a sum of money as an easy indulgence.
    I could just be assuming they're portraying it as the stereotypical version, and they're not being specific either way, but I would like it if they clarified this a little more

  • @andreanecchi5930
    @andreanecchi5930 Рік тому

    In a precise part of the map , when you open the map of religions in Asia there is a point where once there was Christianity after a DLC they changed it to one of the Muslim religions , try to start a game at that point

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому

      so basically suicide?
      starting as a muslim or christian when surrounded by the other faith is usually a death sentence unless you are able to spam mercenaries.

    • @belaolson8172
      @belaolson8172 Рік тому

      ​@@resentfuldragon late asf but isn't that literally what he did here by being Jewish and surrounded by Coptics?

  • @Zimojovic
    @Zimojovic Рік тому +6

    What about forming Czechoslovakia from realesead Slovakia in Vic3

  • @yardenkai
    @yardenkai Рік тому

    You’re cool Laith

  • @Knudsen_Hernandez
    @Knudsen_Hernandez Рік тому +1

    6:09 Close but no cigar

  • @RichardGadsden
    @RichardGadsden Рік тому

    Empire of Outremer is fun.

  • @FunkyMonkeyI
    @FunkyMonkeyI Рік тому

    Crusader Kings 3, does politics and faith pretty well, but the AI seems to have trouble holding together their lands like the Byzantine Empire will fall apart earlier than historically. Chaos is the theme of this game and I love restoring order.

  • @corvus1374
    @corvus1374 Рік тому

    I just created the Kingdom of Mann and the Isles. It was fun.

  • @Cohor101
    @Cohor101 Рік тому

    It is day 61 of asking you to do Croatia challenge in VIC3 (Become free from the rule of austria - then you cannot ally them, russians, serbians, ottomans and montenegro, you also cannot trade with them (embargo them and rival them). First form Yugoslavia restore old borders from that country then form Danubian state, all while staying monarchy thats the set of rules you must follow.

  • @jacklovejoy5290
    @jacklovejoy5290 Рік тому +16

    "everyone hates me because I'm Jewish" The story of my people's existence

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому

      @@grog159 like what?

    • @jacklovejoy5290
      @jacklovejoy5290 Рік тому

      @@owencolbon2400 Look at any part of Jewish history, it's full of people who hate Jews for no valid reason

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому

      @@jacklovejoy5290 I agree bro

    • @Sand-Walker13
      @Sand-Walker13 Рік тому

      Very true.

    • @Aluunyax3
      @Aluunyax3 Рік тому

      "Why do they persecute me so?"

  • @MrMysticeti
    @MrMysticeti Рік тому

    I think it might be difficult but could you try to form bene Israel in India for an other video?

  • @kgptzac
    @kgptzac Рік тому +1

    As said by others, granting a county to a vassal even outside of your de jure duchy titles will not cause your liege to take that vassal from you. Your vassals belong to you, not your liege, and the AI, unlike players, doesn't revoke vassals

  • @vroomnyao4378
    @vroomnyao4378 Рік тому

    15:00 im pretty sure its based atlest for hoi4 the recentness of the history in the game like for example in stellaris you can do what ever you like and it dosent bring issue because it dosent really have close real world corelation

  • @burgerking2783
    @burgerking2783 Рік тому +4

    Day 18 of asking for an eu4 colonial Novgorod game (no forming russia)
    Edit: turns out its day 18

  • @nyktione4277
    @nyktione4277 Рік тому +2

    well, the jews were pushed into the moneylending and banking business, because especially in the middle ages there were laws forbidding them to do any other labor. so it would fit in europe, but not in persia for example.

    • @goksir5845
      @goksir5845 Рік тому

      It was also illegal for catholics to take interest on loans, which means they had to use a bunch of silly loopholes to make banks work, unlike Jews who had no such stipulation.

  • @justrugut9082
    @justrugut9082 Рік тому +1

    1:45
    Dang.

  • @micayahritchie7158
    @micayahritchie7158 Рік тому +1

    Day 12 suggesting forming the empire of the Caribbean in after the end

  • @harrysavage-xl9ug
    @harrysavage-xl9ug Рік тому +1

    1:45 same

  • @dr0g_Oakblood
    @dr0g_Oakblood Рік тому +5

    5:00 - Your liege would have to revoke the vassal first to do that, and that is fairly rare for the AI to do, at least that I have seen, as they risk you going into revolt and taking other vassals with you for a tyranny war over it.

    • @bankaltthree9139
      @bankaltthree9139 Рік тому

      No the issue is he cannot make a new vassal because he isn't a duke, without the dutchy title the new vassal would immediately go to their dejure liege as you cannot have a vassal of the same rank as yourself.

    • @dr0g_Oakblood
      @dr0g_Oakblood Рік тому

      @@bankaltthree9139 He starts as a duke

  • @GreatZarquon
    @GreatZarquon Рік тому +2

    Always makes me laugh when you start talking politics, then just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper!

  • @anthonyduggan4104
    @anthonyduggan4104 Рік тому

    If you really want a hated character, start as a Duke or a Count and be a Hellenic Roman to try to form the Roman Empire.

  • @elvastan
    @elvastan Рік тому +6

    "The Only Independent Jewish Ruler"
    *cries in Khazaria*

  • @Bluesonofman
    @Bluesonofman Рік тому

    Finish the save

  • @dxvt
    @dxvt Рік тому +2

    >upgrade jewish temple
    >gives obscene amounts of money
    lmao

  • @jkyeah8033
    @jkyeah8033 Рік тому

    Part 2

  • @danieldani1162
    @danieldani1162 Рік тому +4

    This is a Certified CK3 Moment

  • @Tom-oj7si
    @Tom-oj7si Рік тому

    Wait what happened to Will and Tom?

  • @Cult_Of_The_fish
    @Cult_Of_The_fish Рік тому +8

    FISH JESUS HAS HELP YOU

  • @grimgorironside
    @grimgorironside Рік тому +6

    heres the answer: anyone who goes out of their way to get offended by these things should not be taken seriously. because such people are not playing the game to enjoy it, there are alot of people nowdays who are looking to find stereotypes so they can get offended and show everybody how moral they are. people who are playing the game to enjoy it, would not be looking to get offended, im an arab, i played the hell out of generals, and the GLA faction there has terrorist units you can recruit, i still enjoy the game. its too silly to take these things seriously.

  • @alnaru3358
    @alnaru3358 9 місяців тому

    Laith is from jerba confirmed?

  • @guyknack
    @guyknack Рік тому +1

    Personally I'm Jewish (I'm not religious) and I see my culture represented in these games and I'm confused, Judaism is a very philosophical faith as it believes and promotes learning and you never really see it in games like this while the nomads get cool bonuses and the Vikings get cool bonuses that it sucks that a widely practiced religion doesn't get represented for what it is

    • @FunkyJay
      @FunkyJay Рік тому +1

      yeh I was a little surprised to see the only real CK3 empire thats Jewish be the Khazars and have a religion called "Khazarite Judaism" despite the Khazar theory being heavily debunked and steeped in antisemitism. It's a shame the devs had to rely on a debunked conspiracy to add more Jews in the game.
      Still loving CK3 though :D

  • @hotsteam5800
    @hotsteam5800 Рік тому

    Day 23 of asking for eu4 no generals

  • @nefreeko
    @nefreeko Рік тому +6

    Hail fish jesus

  • @someonenamedilay7347
    @someonenamedilay7347 21 день тому

    aged like milk

  • @prussiaball1871
    @prussiaball1871 Рік тому +1

    Personally I think it's stilly to be mad about slavery, not even in the past 100 years has slavery been banned in every country. Especially when destroying slavery was the biggest event of the Victorian age

    • @yeslol9303
      @yeslol9303 Рік тому

      No one’s mad about slavery itself but what they’re mad about is institutions of slavery still existing just not physically. I mean look at America. Africans Americans may not be physically enslaved but they’re still heavily restricted

  • @kbgamingcomics6800
    @kbgamingcomics6800 Рік тому

    Based

  • @gabrielaldworth7476
    @gabrielaldworth7476 Рік тому +2

    Is Israel releasable in Victoria 3 ??

    • @bongus796
      @bongus796 Рік тому +1

      yes, you need pan-nationalism though iirc, Palestine just requires nationalism by contrast

  • @vortex_1336
    @vortex_1336 Рік тому +1

    He's not the only Jewish independent ruler. The Khazars are also Jewish.

  • @Atomic2078
    @Atomic2078 Рік тому +1

    I once played as a. Jewish Lithuania

  • @aengusdedanann181
    @aengusdedanann181 2 місяці тому

    13:22 Dont avoid stereotypes. stereotype everyone equally

  • @boolossus2436
    @boolossus2436 3 місяці тому

    23:13 This is the main rationale behind the 7th Crusade to a T lmao
    "Jerusalem, the Holy City, the cornerstone of the Outremer, otherwise extremely vulnerable without cities like Acre to supply it."
    "Or Egypt, the actual base of power in the region, extremely wealthy and, if taken, could become the most powerful self-sustaining Christian Kingdom in the Middle East."
    Should be an easy choice right? Religion really makes things so complicated sometimes haha

  • @danielwozniak3280
    @danielwozniak3280 Рік тому +1

    i make Empire of jeroluslem

  • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595

    On the matter of people being mad about concubines in CK3 or slaves in Vicky 2, I think if adding the thing has a tangible gameplay effect and is historically accurate, such as concubines being important for you to have more heirs and thus simulate more complex successions and slavery being a huge flaming debate throughout most of the non-European world, it belongs in the game. The aspect of WW2 removed from HOI4 should stay removed as god knows what kind of people would appear if Paradox implemented it, plus it doesn't affect HOI4's core gameplay loop in any manner

    • @DsgSleazy
      @DsgSleazy Рік тому

      The holocaust?

    • @Alex_Fahey
      @Alex_Fahey Рік тому +4

      Denying history doesn't help anyone. It happened. It had a massive effect on the countries of the time, and any historical games should have all these events included if they are relevant for the time period and gameplay of the game (which such massive events as the Holocaust obviously are for political simulators of the Carl von Clausewitz style).
      Lynchings, Pogroms, Death Camps, et cetera have massive effects on the nations that dabble in them. Whether we talk about Askenazi Jews in WWII Germany, German-Americans in WWI America, or Kulaks in USSR, all of their mistreatments had massive effects on the economics and subsequent politics of the nation. If nothing else, concentration camps have massive segments of the population imprisoned, entirely dependent on logistical supply, and being used for back-breaking manual labor. This has so many effects it applies to the nation even if we ignore the rest of the horror.

    • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
      @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Рік тому

      @@Alex_Fahey Yeah I agree that if a game covers the political aspect of WW2, the Holocaust is a topic that must be covered
      HOI4 does not cover politics however, it does not even attempt to simulate how that era's politics worked, it isn't a game about the political machinations of the 1936-1945 period, it's a game about WW2's combat, and how to develop large scale strategies to defeat your enemy in a battlefield. The Holocaust, while it did affect German capability in the field, was not a definitive factor towards the war, but rather a background "civillian" affair

    • @Alex_Fahey
      @Alex_Fahey Рік тому

      @A Possibly Heretical Alpha Legionnaire Have you forgotten the focus tree and the entirety of diplomacy and even the decisions page and the spy mechanics? You completely change the course of political history in as absurd ways as overthrowing a resurgent Russian Monarchy allied with a new German Empire using your Communist States of America while allied with a Communist France and Britian.
      It is a flagrant lie to pretend HoI4 is anything remotely resembling a pure warsim in the vein of a higher level Command: Modern Operations. HOI4 is massively focused on high-level political posturing as if you were a controlling secret society steering the course of your chosen nation. Open warfare is the culmination of those acts, just like in all of Paradox's games.

    • @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
      @apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Рік тому

      @@Alex_Fahey National focuses are not an accurate representation of politics, diplomacy is all but useless except for a few focuses or if you are doing an alt-hist multiplayer roleplay game but I'll give you spy networks.
      I still do not think that the Holocaust is a necessary thing for the simulation of HOI4's mechanics. HOI4 is the Paradox game where war is the biggest payoff, like any of them you have to build up for it yes, and as you said you can alter history by focuses, but war is the meat of HOI4 more than it is any other Paradox game. If Victoria 3, a game focused on economics and politics, covered the WW2 era for example, the Holocaust would be an invaluable mechanic, but HOI4 does not, so I do not see it as necessary

  • @remotelyfungus2612
    @remotelyfungus2612 Рік тому +2

    I feel like it’s very important to bring up the extremely undesirable aspects of history. I feel like Paradox games have a very special place in my heart because they teach you a lot about history and open the door for you to do your own research. I personally believe that the Holocaust, the atrocities done to the Korean and Chinese people, and the things happening in the Soviet Union should be brought to light more in Hoi4. I think it’s very important to show just how bad totalitarianism and extremism of both the right and the left can affect a nation.

  • @Vitruvian_Person
    @Vitruvian_Person Рік тому

    Try to form Bene Israel Also

  • @pixelplexus859
    @pixelplexus859 Рік тому

    Am I the first viewer? Damn

  • @mr.spleens7800
    @mr.spleens7800 Рік тому +2

    Interestingly while Paradox tries preventing players from creating horrible events like the holocaust, rape of nanking, and such in hoi4, I've always been bewildered how Stellaris lets you straight up eat and enslave people, you could say inclusion of slavery in vic is similar to this but it's extremely unprofitable unlike stellaris.

    • @kingjamestres
      @kingjamestres Рік тому +2

      Its all good as long as its against xeno scum... something something warhammer

    • @thelordofcringe
      @thelordofcringe Рік тому +1

      It's abstracted in Stellaris. Plus, aliens aren't people. It's why you can blow the multicolored brains out of aliens in recent halo games but it's not rated m.

    • @definetlynotacomment1184
      @definetlynotacomment1184 Рік тому

      I think it's because of the abstraction. But there is a double standard. The rating is also absurd. In Germany it has an age rating of 6 years. What kind of six year old would understand Stellaris?

    • @mr.spleens7800
      @mr.spleens7800 Рік тому

      Btw wanted to say this isn't me arguing for stellaris to have all this removed, I ran a slaver empire like, a month ago

  • @kingpoxy2289
    @kingpoxy2289 8 місяців тому

    The Jewish king of Ethiopia becomes the king of Isreal... what

  • @emreyilmazel4696
    @emreyilmazel4696 Рік тому

    Isn‘t Cumania/Casaria also jewish?

    • @nefreeko
      @nefreeko Рік тому

      They are there but not independent

    • @emreyilmazel4696
      @emreyilmazel4696 Рік тому

      Ooh my bad i thougjt he played the earlier start date didnt pay attention

    • @inegev
      @inegev Рік тому +2

      You’re thinking of the Khazar Khganate which was only nominally Jewish for part of its history. Really only the rulers and the nobility converted to some degree to Judaism and we don’t know how “jewish” they were in terms of actual observance. The majority of the citizens of the khagante remained Pagans Christians and Muslims.

  • @postil360
    @postil360 Рік тому +1

    What the game call?

  • @jamesmacdonald1116
    @jamesmacdonald1116 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if the tax and intrest PA bounses given to the Jewish faith is linked to the jews being in charge of banking across Europe after their migration into various Europeon kingdoms

    • @alek1766
      @alek1766 Рік тому

      I think a feature like that should take the shape of a debuff for other trades, considering Jews participated in money lending because they were prohibited from other parts of the economy

  • @dpamer1020
    @dpamer1020 Рік тому

    First!

  • @ToothpikcOriginal
    @ToothpikcOriginal Рік тому +4

    Well after 5 months of asking for a Galicia Volhynia game I'm giving up, Laith. You won. Obviously you don't have to do anything the comments ask you to do, but still, I leave feeling dejected

    • @osmaniesquijarosa4308
      @osmaniesquijarosa4308 Рік тому

      But why though? What's so special about Galicia-Volhynia?

    • @ToothpikcOriginal
      @ToothpikcOriginal Рік тому

      @@osmaniesquijarosa4308 seemingly no one has made a video on them. That's why. It would've been cool to see someone finally do something cool with them, like taking revenge against the Mongols or something

    • @osmaniesquijarosa4308
      @osmaniesquijarosa4308 Рік тому

      @@ToothpikcOriginal Okay, but then why not Chernigov, Smolensk, or Baltic nation? That area of the world in Ck3 has no flavor to speak off, that's why he won't play there, unless it get's updated in a dlc or mod.

    • @ToothpikcOriginal
      @ToothpikcOriginal Рік тому

      @@osmaniesquijarosa4308 I dunno man, my heart was on Galicia Volhynia. And like I said, I just wanted to see one video on it from someone

    • @osmaniesquijarosa4308
      @osmaniesquijarosa4308 Рік тому +1

      @@ToothpikcOriginal fair enough

  • @austrianchad6673
    @austrianchad6673 Місяць тому

    Idk but this run broke me because i got destroyed from Two Fronts first the crussaders and then the Muslim.🤣
    Don t try Israel folks it isn't worth it...😉

  • @ouvyman
    @ouvyman Рік тому +1

    L

  • @madddd1
    @madddd1 Рік тому

    One piece Israel

  • @egg-ts4fo
    @egg-ts4fo Рік тому

    The comments will be fun

  • @Draugtaur
    @Draugtaur Рік тому

    hey it's interesting how you can represent different faiths and cultures without stereotyping
    *3 minutes later*
    hey why is greedy sinful to jews lol

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Рік тому

    =-D

  • @dbix11
    @dbix11 Рік тому +1

    Don't get kicked out of your own country Jewish Achievement

  • @Danilo_Ch_A_5731
    @Danilo_Ch_A_5731 Рік тому

    1 JUAN 4. 3 y todo espíritu que no confiesa que Jesucristo ha venido en carne, no es de Dios; y este es el espíritu del anticristo, el cual vosotros habéis oído que viene, y que ahora ya está en el mundo.

  • @hamsa5829
    @hamsa5829 4 місяці тому

    Ok Now do forming israel with out schemes or dirty tricks

  • @MrLeim1
    @MrLeim1 Рік тому

    erster

  • @drake713
    @drake713 Рік тому +2

    Dunno if I get shat on for it but whatever; if a "stereotype" (or anything really) from history upset you in any way it's time to grow up. People right now has nothing to do with something that happened 400, 1000 years ago.
    And if randoms pull BS over me because they got shitty ideas from something I do not mind it's *their* issues. Just look at the goblins in Harry Potter being "Jews" HOW RACIST ISN'T THE DUDES WHO EVEN THOUGHT THAT?? I for one never have, but apparently that is a huge madeup reason to hate a random woman who never said anything like it

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому

      Init there are genuine reasons to dislike jk Rowling aswell

    • @drake713
      @drake713 Рік тому +1

      @@owencolbon2400 as someone who only read the books and watched the movies; no, there really isn't. She's not a person I'll ever know, and is in no way going to paint a picture of out of how I interpret stereotypes and then add it into fantasy.

    • @owencolbon2400
      @owencolbon2400 Рік тому

      @@drake713 on an unrelated note can we agree the fourth movies is actually crap

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 8 місяців тому

      @@owencolbon2400The fourth film, yeah it sucks in terms of wasted potential, often those who have only saw the films will say 3 or 4 are their favourites and their reasons for liking four are basically just the potential and setting of the film. The movie skip so much from the book and Goblet of fire is the potter film that has the most unreleased deleted scenes. I love it growing up and still do, but having read the book I am dispointed. The film did some good bits but they aren’t enough to silver line the disappointment. And finally there’s the dictator, who isn’t bad, far from it. It just he wasn’t meant to do this film or franchise.

  • @silver_kitten
    @silver_kitten Рік тому

    Form bene Israel