Toyota GR Yaris vs F56 Mini GP3 - The Hot Hatch Battle of 2020 with
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- THE TIME HAS COME! We returned our GP3 back to stock so that we could give you the comparison you've all been asking for.
With the help of our friend @JoeAchilles1 we took the two hottest of hatches for 2020 to some local B roads to put them through their paces, and see which one comes out on top.
Head over to Joe's channel to see what he really thought of the GR Yaris when Imran wasn't listening! - • 1st Drive GR Yaris - H...
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Once again a big thanks to Joe for helping us compare these two!
If you want to hear his thoughts on the GR Yaris when Imran wasn’t listening make sure you check out his video! - ua-cam.com/video/OpylsAdQIHY/v-deo.html
Anytime guys, always an absolute pleasure!
Good video guys , 2 possible contenders for top gear . 👌
@@skippysmith7526 Thank you, we can only dream ;-)
Didn’t you know that the height of the mirror is adjustable? You can see in a shot that it’s position wasn’t changed. You can move it up so it almost touches the roof and then, it‘s not that much an issue.
Joe's smile from the start and all the way through the drive in the GR Yaris says it all.
Haha so true!
It makes me want a GRY so bad, but I'm a student 😭
Brilliant day, brilliant video, two very different Hot Hatches :-) Cheers guys x
Would love to see both of you do this again. great way to do a comparison video.
@@mfshill I would love to do more with Imran and co, Matt has done a brilliant edit once again!
Let’s get the GP3 back to Llandow next year and bring the Yaris with us 🤔
You can see your heads bouncing in the mini ,so hard work over a distance. Yaris all day long .
Brilliant to see too 👍
GR Yaris is one of those cars that looks better dirty than clean
Corona would look like this if it was a car
@@MajorAMinor is that an insult or a complement ?
@@benkirkham2017 depends on if you love or hate Corona
And the only reason why you'd clean it is so you can get it dirty again.
As a GP2 owner, it should be the MINI that I want. But it isn't.
I’ve been looking for a gp2 I think I would prefer it over our gp3.
GP2 forever!👍 The looks, the delightful manual gearbox, the joy of driving it on the limits... I think without a manual option, GP3 loses 70% of the fun.
Yaris seems to be a joyful machine!
Cheers from Ankara, Turkey and happy holidays!
@@asmg5014 the gp3 would be a handful as a manual. Even as a auto dtc you have to drive it, took my wife a couple thousand miles to get use to it.
As a GP1 & GP2 owner I had money down on the GP3. Passed on the GP3 for the Yaris GR.
I'd like to see that mini chasing the yaris on the nurburgring
GR YARIS every time.
Brilliant video guys, the energy and laughter between you two comparing them takes me back to being a teenager all over again out with my mates in our fun hot hatches of the day- uno turbos and 205 gti’s etc! Pure class!
Haha so true, good hatch's always remind me of my younger years, such fun cars at sensible speeds on the road!
New 308 gti by peugeot sport got great feeling behind steering wheel. So fun car to drive! Peugeot is back in the game with 308 gti. Amazing machine.
Thats exactly what the GR evokes for me. Memories of the 90s. As Joe said its great to be back in cars that can be fun at less than licence losing speeds
Having owned a GP.3 briefly, it left me cold as compared to my GP.1 and GP.2 and I sold it on within 2 months. I felt it was nowhere near fun enough. Having picked up my GR Yaris yesterday and having done almost 1,000 km already on hairpins, Autobahn and everything in between, I'd pick the GR any day of the week and twice on Sunday! Just my 2 cents...
good job your 2 cents means
fanculo tutto .
I never thought I’d want a Toyota Yaris but this is amazing
I basically never comment on UA-cam videos, but this was a great watch and I really enjoyed it. Great reviews. Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time out to comment. Highly appreciated 🙏
so cool to see you guys collaborate videos together. not much of a fan of those 2 cars, but to see 2 car enthusiasts chit chat cars is just awesome!
Essayez la Yaris gr vous changerez d’avis 👌
Loved the edits and layout of the video, lovely work guys keep it up!
Looking forward to seeing them on a dry track 👍
Agree with other commentators you two are great individually and together...more joint ventures please
Not finished the review yet but just watching the difference in how much steering input/correction needed is unreal!! That Yaris looks a dream to drive!
@Evolve Automotive thanks for the like. This is the first time I’ve watched your channel, won’t be the last. Great content!! Keep up the work
for the steering input/correction it's true on this wet road but the GP3 torque is very imppresive
Great colab from two of my favorite subs on youtube. Really enjoyed the chemistry and each others perspective on two two cars.
This was an excellent video. Love the camera set ups.
Really good video Guys! 👏 Great concept and both Imran and Joe work well together!
Yeah we think so too
As an F56 JCW owner I really appreciate fun factor and feel of these types of cars. I'd love to have a go in the Yaris to see if it has the same fun factor as the mini...
It has the fun factor of which you speak
And the iconic design and nature of a mini, and the community of a mini. Its raw, its a track machine, if you're not focused on the track, what are you doing there?
Besides the GP3 now has mods that fix the torque steer.
Bizarrely, it’s actually closer to the savagery and ‘all the torque all the time’-ness of an R52 Cooper S with an undersized supercharger pulley fitted, except with that 4wd grip to actually send it out of corners.
You definitely won’t be disappointed, they’re the perfect blend of brutality and composure.
@@EvolveAutomotive nah it doesn't , doesn't have the go cart handling of the mini .
GP3: You can’t have a relaxing drive, you have to treat it with respect.
Lotus Exige: Hold my Beer.
Now you see why people love the manual Clio rs's and early civic type r ep3. High reving engines with manual gearboxes and lots of fun from the front end.
Ok we are going into new era in car videos
Everyone seems to like this format
Great format for this video using the picture in picture presentation. Thank you. Those road conditions were a GP3 nightmare and a GR Yaris dream. The GR really captures my imagination. The GP3 much less so which is a surprise as I greatly enjoyed a first generation GP some years ago. I really wish presenters would get off the idea of talking about the price "for a Yaris" as really the GR is Yaris in name only.
loved watching the adrenalin being experienced driving these cars! One day hopefully I will be able to buy the GR Yaris.
YARIS GR for CAR OF THE YEAR.
@Jamie Cole the GR Yaris 'as stated by Top Gear, Out Accelerates a Ferrari 488 PISTA, McLaren 570s, Audi TTRS, Honda NSX, and Lamborghini to 60km/h PROVEN, also handles exceptionally well.there is a reason TOP GEAR have awarded it 10/10.
@Jamie Cole GR would beat the Mini 1/4 mile. Virtually nothing beats the GR 0-30. The Mini needed AWD and a manual box, they made a mistake there! The GR is the best all rounder, and much more than just a suped up mainstream car
100% need to see a detailing vid of both of these next 👀
Great collab and the Yaris seems to offer soo much driving pleasure!👍🏾
Thanks and it does 🙏
Great to see a comparison and how competent the Yaris is
The glee on Joe’s face speaks volumes 😂
Great video Imran! Nice to see them together. They're like chalk and cheese though. GP3 will never compare to the GR in those conditions. GP3 on track is a different story! GR as a daily, GP3 as a track toy or weekend adrenaline hit! Still surprised Joe fitted in the GR, he may need an open top helmet for track🤣🤣
This was definitely the GR’s hunting grounds, hopefully we can get them both to a track and see how the GP3 fares in its natural habitat.
@@EvolveAutomotive look forward to that video👍. My GP3 is getting its first track outing tomorrow, hope its dry!😲
You won’t be disappointed! Loved ours at Llandow.
For me the Yaris will also be the winner on a dry track - look forward to that vid in the summer
@@relentlesspursuit6894gr yaris or i20n?
Awesome review guys! 👏👏👏
The best wing design ever for a hot hatch 👍👍
Luv this "Channel" the information and reviews are real. Beemerz are Awesome. Best regards to Imraan and Team. Luv from South Africa.
Thanks Joseph 😊
The mini bounces around so much more in the side by side in car footage. Doesn’t even look like they’re going down the same road, the GR just soaks up the bumps that much better.
Fun video. Joe thanks for the intro another great channel find.
On the cars personally of the two it would be the Yaris all day long for awesome usable performance & 4wd system. Still unsure of a 3 pot and certainly for £32k !
I love Joe's reaction to both cars, but I have to say the reaction to the GP3 after driving the GR is priceless. Looks like he was having way more fun in the GP. Hahaha Great video you guys. very well done!!
As said in the video the GP3 is definitely more fun at the lower speeds, but possibly for the wrong reasons.
We weren’t really trying but the GR would have been hugely quicker if not obeying the speed limit.
@@EvolveAutomotive The Gr yaris I had was an easier car to drive fast tbf ,in fact I thought anyone could drive it fast even min gran, on the other hand with the GP3 you have to be far more a competent driver to drive it fast on road , it takes some tackling but if you can do that its far more exciting in my opinion , hence why I still go t it here .
The reaction from both of you guys with the different cars is soo telling of the two cars different characters...awesome video...one is clearly a chilled out fun car while the other is adrenalin junkie’s on the edge hands on drama full on in the wet!!...great vibe with you two as always!!!
So true buddy, quite funny watching it back for me :-)
@@JoeAchilles1 the sensible one and the crazy wild one 😜
That GP wing would look right at home on the GR
Yesss finally someone said ut
Great vid, thanks. Love Joe’s enthusiasm! The Yaris’ real competition, on that kind of road, would be Golf R, Type R, and it would be interesting to see how much faster an A45s is, and if it’s as much fun!
A great video review. Top gear eat your heart out. Thanks guys.👍
Thanks Phil. Not quite Top Gear but will take the compliment
You should a video on your thoughts on your Tuned F56 vs GP3!!!
We no longer own our Cooper S we had. But we do miss it.
Great collaboration, liked the relaxed and casual tone of the video, please do more stuff together. One question, does the Yaris feel like it need a bit more torque down low (considering highly strung little 1.6l triple cylinder engine)? I heard from some reviewers that they have to rev it up a bit to get into the power band. I'm very disappointed I won't have a chance to drive one since they won't be coming to the US which sucks unless I manage to go to Nurburgring and rent one for a few laps (from Apex guys). I somehow think that the Yaris GR would be even more fun if it came with 2.0l four cylinder engine and some 300-330hp. I heard that the HKS guys are already pushing 375hp with upgraded turbo and they even added 100hp nitrous shot and stock internals are still taking it. This car is a huge success for Toyota.
To be honest it doesn't feel like its lacking torque. It has a fairly decent mid range punch and also holds power at the top end pretty well. Check out our dyno video for the power graph
This must be the first video of its kind I’ve seen where hands - free communication has been used and not some walkie-talkie set up.
Why is this so uncommon?
Nice vid btw.
Not sure we were thinking about how to do it without using the cars Bluetooth and this is what we thought of.
That moment you work at MINI as an engineer and you see Toyota release the car you should have build as the new GP.
Instead you get told to add a bunch of horrible looking arches to the body work, because that is what GP stands for instead of installing a proper adjustable suspension, decent rubber from an A-brand and cooling for the engine.
Pretty much. They should have come with adjustable suspension.
And a manual transmission option...
@@Eddie07S not as much needed as the other stuff
Definitely adds to the Fun Factor, though and has been the biggest complaint about the GP in the MINI forum I follow. You say the engine could do with cooling. I know my Gen III JCW has added cooling over the S model, which works well out on the track. I thought I read that the GP has even more cooling than what the JCW has. Not enough?
@@Eddie07S the gearbox is not my number one concern, also because I know BMW wouldn't have been able to make the business case work because of homologation. Nowhere in the BMW or MINI lineup this engine configuration is connected to a manual, and only doing for 3000 pieces would make the car too expensive. They could however have fit better engine cooling. The car doesn't have the lower engine cover underneath the car because of the cooling issues.
Together with my tuner we dived into the engine characteristics and the thermal set up of the car is horrific. It needs a different intercooler desperately to at least be able to keep the performance levels at all circumstances, and then we are not even talking about tuning it. Without it, it won't be able to hold on to the increased 306 hp at every single instance.
It was a bit like a W T F moment when we saw the results of the tests we did. The engine and especially the turbo are strangled up to a point that you are like this can't be true. Also this 2.0 liter engine runs stock a turbo pressure that gets you 306 hp, while if you would run the same pressure on similar 2.0 liter 4 cylinder VAG engine you would have in access of 450 hp.
Great video and comparison. like the editing too.
I have a GP and drove a Yaris few days ago.
TBH they are hard to compare.
They are in two different classes, not that one is better than the other but just pretty different.
However still a great comparison Video.
Two different ways to approach the Hot Hatch for sure, but would definitely say they are in the same class when it comes to buying a car.
Bang in the same class - and the GR is the better car....
Proper rally engineering put into the GR Yaris. The real driver's car for sure. Well done Toyota for showing us that you can still do awesome fun cars.
The comparison we’ve been waiting for, thanks, track comparison would be great. Real world for me the Yaris has it, that GP is just too hardcore!
thats exactly the point these cars were built for HARDCORE
Would love to see a track comparison. I know the gp works be on top but I’d like to see the Yaris on the track.
As an F56 mini owner, I should want the GP3 but.... That yaris is something special
Indeed
Excellent video cheers!
Great video 👍 test driven the GR myself and it's just a great car
Fantastic video. Was really waiting for this. Really want to buy a GR Yaris but in South Africa they are going to be ridiculously priced. Literally Golf R money and for a bit more, one could get an M135i X Drive. Totally respect the Yaris, what a great car.
Salaam, did u manage to get the Yaris?
I live in Yorkshire, my in laws live in Snowdonia, ticking down the seconds to Mt GR landing....
Great video guys 🙌
Great video & an interesting comparison, thanks Imran. Also great to see you guys with a GR, I'll be trading in my 270bhp R55 JCW Clubby for a GR when funds allow, be good to see what Evolve comes up with for the pocket rocket
Great little cars! You should try Peugeot 308 gti by peugeot sport 🦁 . 1,6l 4 cylinder fully forged engine from the factory , 270bhp, 1205kg only, 380mm brakes Alcon, LSD Torsen, 19" Alloys with Michelin Pilot Super Sport, all standard . Awesome handling. Proper drivers car! Amazing in corners. Don't judge cars by the badge. Peugeot always had great hothatches. and 308 Gti is so underrated!
Two legends 1 video 💯
Haha 😄
Can see quite a few Gp3's getting written off, seems far too sketchy. Yaris all day for me, a real gem.
Well done. Brilliant tuner and a decent upcoming car journalist. For me though - the Japanese micro (or is it nano) Godzilla all day long.
That’s a video you’d like to see at two at night while choosing which of the two hot hatches you’re going to buy in the next damn days. Thanks boys
Love it guys great combo
Glad you liked it :-)
Great vid and two great cars
Do you keep switching between YAris and YAARRis pronunciation, or is it me?
I had a previous model jcw 2010. Great fun car. I bought it for 6 months and kept it for 6 years but it started to burn too much oil that I had to add some during every other gas fill. This gp has too much power that it doesn’t seem to handle well. GR any time or just a standard jcw.
Great video, very informative review for these vehicles on everyday roads. You got to have a car that makes your pulse race and for me, the GP 3 would do that. Ive got to get one now.... Hahaha...Thanks
Great comparison...great to see just how bad mini is over bumps and excessive torque steer... just proves how good Yaris is!!
I think you're both going to be wrong, the Yaris will be faster than the GP3 on a track too!
Let's find out soon
in France the GP3 is ahead on the Mortefontaine track .
Can we have a 360 hp gr yaris tuned by evolve?
Did the mini have different suspension and geo at this point? Thought it’d make a lot of difference.
We returned it back to standard to make it a fair test.
It will be immediately going back on 😅
Yep for sure the GP3 gives you way more of a body shake workout!
The GP3 on the Bilstein Clubsports and setup is MUCH better, but that wouldn’t have been a fair comparison when the Yaris is already cheaper!
@@EvolveAutomotive That's true. Get to work on some mods for the gr mine should arrive in May so i need some cool ideas. Mud flaps a first. So i will be contacting you for those and more. Great vid.👍
Good vid comparing both cars with you and Joe cheers steve 👍 😃
Great video guys !! I have the standard 30k Yaris on order, due for shipping now. Be a weekend toy, no track use. Would you recommend changing the Dunlops for PS4s? Cheers.
Winter driving, every car looks like a rally car with all the salt crud build up 😂
Brilliant colab, lovely shots just a couple more camera angles in my humble opinion would make it excellent. But great vid
Great vid. Which drive mode did you use on the GR?
All of them
Very good content 👍
It's a massive shame what CarWimP(wow) have done with cars tuned by you..
Regards from Poland 🖐️
Awesome side by side comparison 👌
nice drone shots
I'm a BMW guy but I really love the GR Yaris. Well, the main difference between the two is that they were built for different terreins. The GP is a track car and the GR is rally car. So, of course, the GR would Thrive on a road that somewhat resembles a rally road.
Omd the damping on the yaris is epic mini is in trouble smh both cars are great but that toyota shines alot brighter welldone great review
Epic is the correct word
The yards is just so small...what is the crash results?
The 5 door variant it’s based on has 5* NCAP rating, imagine the GR is probably the same
So, what expected time for the car to reach the USA for sells?
Great video and that road looks amazing would love to know where this is :D
If I had the money I'd be ordering the Yaris... great video.
The GR Yaris is an AMAZING accomplishment. Toyota should be very proud. If you live in a country where you can drive one, enjoy it. Sadly we don't get it here in the US.
That's a real shame as it is a really good drivers car
Mini needs dual clutch or six speed manual went to all those weight saving efforts and left a heavy tq auto in there?
For me for daily driving clubman jcw is fit all case
Good video and a boon for me was that I must have driven these roads as I was posted to Saffron Walden in the early 90's :-)
Sorry but forget the mini, I wish we had the gr in America... ì would take it over the type r too.. I heard it's really really good
Great work guys
Thanks 😊
I'm no expert but why didn't BMW do xdrive for the Mini like it does in the bigger m135i.
I can't imagine there'd be any conflict between the m135i and GP3 as surely buyers are not expecting the same things from their cars
If BMW/MINI would build an even more stripped down GP with a rear biased all wheel drive system it would probably interest more petrol heads and be more of a driver focused car than what's on offer today. They've gotten too big imo and need to go back to their roots(i'm sure that's not an option tho). My first "track day car" was an 06 DINAN S Cooper and I loved that car, it was nimble and had perfect power for the chassis. People bought Mini's because of their handling and quirky looks. Now Toyota has captured that spirit and people are going bat shit crazy for the GR Yaris. This is just my shitty .02 worth, but I've heard lots of other enthusiasts say something similar.
The GR definitely has that spirit 🙌
@@EvolveAutomotive I'm excited to see what kind of performance you guys get out of that little GR. Great content per usual, I just wish you guys had a shop in Southern California for my M4C. In fact quite a few of the other F8* M owners I know follow your channel.
I am still really sceptical of the GR Yaris. What really makes this superior to a well kitted alternative?
Nothing, all of these videos are to generate sales. Give it 6 months and there will be something new and it will be Yaris what? A bit like the old GRMN
@@Andy-2022 Completely agree, I said something similar on another video and got completely scolded by everyone lol.
Nice collab guys! I’m here from Joes channel! A new sub from me! 👍
great video - thank you
Toyota is finally back with this Yaris. Hopefully the Corolla for the US will be almost as fun.
great video ! Does anyone know where is this road?
Please can we clear the name up..it's Yaris. It's not Yaaaaaris. Cheers
Yes man..Mega video
Hey guys, so I compete in hill climb and sprint racing. Whats the best car in your opinion for class A3 which is road going production class between 1800-2600cc, but wait, forced induction handicap is 1.4x, so the max turbocharged engine size is 1857cc. 4x4 is allowed.
Not sure how you could top the GR Yaris in all honestly.
So I own 2 MINIs, a JCW F56 facelift and the Countryman 1.5 ALL4. My JCW facelift on Pirelli PZero, my Countryman on winter tyres Goodyear UltraGrip Performance Gen-1. On a cold rainy day like the one you drive in the video I will choose by far my Countryman which drives so much better in winter. But from April to November I cannot get out off my JCW (which by the way has so much better interior than the Yaris). In those conditions you do not compare cars but 2WD against AWD. Therefore any conclusions have nothing to do with car performance, such a comparison should be done thoroughly in a track. Also the GP3 is not a daily car as Yaris is, It demands much more effort from the driver, and in fact this is the proper way.
Joe Achilles is 6'4... didn't think he was that tall lol
Anyone thinking the GR is not at home on a track, check out the videos of it on youtube destroying anything and everything around the ring and Brands. I think itl prove even better on a track than on the road