@Seamus McShamish I disagree. Real car enthusiasts are happy to sacrifice a bit of reliability for the landrover culture, history and better respectability.
With those tires on the old one, I would have gone full throttle, some wheelspin is actually useful when pulling out of mud or snow, especially with a locking diff. I daily drive a RWD, and the only way to get out of heavy snow is by disabling the ESP and drifting myself out of it
But only if the new one works and has no electrical failure... which is not often the case. Land Rover were never reliable no they added all the electronic, good luck. Check tfl UA-cam quite interesting experience with their new defenders... a nightmare
Matt you should Drag Race this cars together: • Audi RSQ8 •Porsche Cayenne Turbo Coupé •Mercedes-Benz GLE 63s •BMW X6M Competition • Lamborghini Urus • Bentley Bentayga Speed • Range Rover Sport SVR • Jeep GC Trackhawk I know you can't drag race them all at once but it can be great
Low range was engaged but the lever was over to the right so the diff lock wasn't engaged. Essentially the Pretender beat the Defender while the Defender was in 1 wheel drive mode. You also have a clutch - use it to advantage to get the load moving the way it is meant to move.
I am afraid it’s just a matter of time when the first computers on the new Defender start to fail... My 1995 Land Rover Defender Tdi is still purring around 😉
That old saying is dead and buried. I remember when the discovery 3 came out. We heard the same old claptrap. 15 years old/later & it’s still going like a dream. Ok mine is the 4.4 V8, so probably the more reliable engine than the tdv6. But it’s full of ecu computers terrain response trickery & they are all still working like the day it was new.
Some of the best Defenders were sold here in Australia- JRA brought them to Australia with the option of a Isuzu 3.9 diesel- bombproof next to the Rover V8
It may sound counterintuitive but because the old one has open mechanical diffs you need to feather the brakes to load resistance onto the free spinning wheel so that the power is more evenly distributed between all the wheels. Or for the price of a couple of wing mirrors on the new one just buy front and rear diff lockers. The new Defender is fantastic out of the box if you’re not experienced, and just speaking personally- I wouldn’t want to be in an accident in the old one, even though I own one ha ha.
Oh please TFL’s car is just a lemon. Not all of em are. We had our defender x for about 6 months now. We have 20,000 miles on it. Perfectly fine. Land Rover is great.
But guess what our defender has no problems dumbass. Nothing is going on. My family member also has a defender first edition. His has 13,000 miles. No damn issues.
Can you please make a comparison between the New Defender, and the "New" Discovery, both on- and off road? It would be interesting to see these two compared...
@@drano1614 I meant the new Defender and the Discovery 5. But that should have been done with both Defenders as well. I am not sure that the diff lock on the old Defender was engaged. They also should have used an old Defender with a bigger engine more on par with the new Defender as well.
I think the Defender being in second gear, going forward, with the clutch out and STILL getting dragged backwards as soon as the new one engaged some power nullified the driving skill argument. This is a striking result (and I really like the old Defender).
Diff lock on the old one wasn't engaged. Traction control is available on the old one. And anti stall is only on first gear low. On grass its always down to tyres and weight. I wish these things were done properly.
Also note the rope is higher on the new defender. This will have the affect of lifting the weight off the old one and driving the new one down into the ground. I'm not convinced that a 110 with difflock and traction control with those tyres would loose to a new defender when it had road biased. For the record I have a 110 XS Utility. It has traction control and centre difflock.
Check out the "new vs old defender offroad test" by carwow and you might change your mind. The new Defender makes it look like it's taking a stroll to the shops.
@@TROPtastic mmm... I saw it, it made me a little bit upset... they made the old one look like a rubbish... and old one is ultimate extreme offroader... the new one is an SUV, the old one is a truck.. plus the tests involved speed and response, so new defender was going to win in anything that includes speed, comfort, response, etc... but if you go to extreme offroad, plus you are a good driver of course, cause that’s basically what you need for the old to be good of course... the new one helps you with everything, even though you can watch mor offroading videos between these too, and you’ll see what I’m talking about
You can tell the course has been specially set up for the new Defender especially on the rut bit on the other vid where the old one got stuck-no coincidence! unfortunately correspondants won't get another car to review if they are derrogatory. The old defender was loved because it was a no gimmicks no airbags basics farm vehicle that was'nt bought for the road-thats what the disco was for!
Just one thing: 56000£!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait to see if this suspension and other things are still working after 40 years like the old and reliable Defender!!!!!!!!!!
Drove an old 90 the other day.Hell its old fashioned inside and found it easier when doing tight manoeuvres to open the window and have my elbow out lol. Frankly it was great !!!!
Ye it's a great car really it's just that many people think it doesn't look like a defender and so they're just hating on it. I think it's a great car and considering how old the original is, the new defender would have looked something like the new one anyway.
@Seamus McShamish no don't think so he's getting to much expensive German cars that do everything for you he'd be hopeless in a early 00s car with 0 electric Nanny's
If the older one was in production right now, then the older one definitely. I love the look of the Older Defender, but the new Defender is a Banger too !!
The "new one" will not survive long in the wild, because the "normal" person can no longer lend a hand!!! "Helicopter deployment, helicopter deployment" ...
The terrain response repair bill amongst others in that will also be amazing when it spends more time in the garage having numerous repairs done on its electronics as are this company is famous for.
The old defender has open diffs on the axles, so it has only got two wheel drive, one front and one back. It has no traction control to balance it out. I used to run Quaife ATB diffs back and front, which transforms it.
New vs Old... Which are you choosing?
Old
Old is gold... New is refrigerator on wheels and its not reliable like all rovers... My only favorite new rover is the sport svr.
New
Newwwww💯🤟🏼
old
Petition for Mat vs Yianni in a drag race with a bicycle.
make that eBikes! (and chip matt's without telling Yianni..........)
Signed!😂
Omg I'd kill to see this 😂😂😂
No bike seat is big enough for Yanni's A...
Do an all Toyota Hybrid drag race.
- Corolla
- Auris
- Prius
- Yaris
Pls man I wanna see this happen.
Do a tug of war against those lorries/trucks you drag raced.
The Mercedes-Benz truck vs the Scania scaenia scaniai scandal truck name...
Who's gonna pay if one of them broke?
@@kerenkan9217 that dude lol.
I think his name is Ashville.
Epic
@@kerenkan9217 one truck was Ashevilles he smashed into a golf so I doubt hes bothered about a tug of war lol
too expensive
Tug of war between a Ford Bronco and Defender
@Neel Javia the old one
@Neel Javia We all know that ford in general is crap but...
"Only one way too find out"
No one can beat a Land Rover in Tug of war
Bronco driven by OJ Simpson.
@Seamus McShamish I disagree. Real car enthusiasts are happy to sacrifice a bit of reliability for the landrover culture, history and better respectability.
With those tires on the old one, I would have gone full throttle, some wheelspin is actually useful when pulling out of mud or snow, especially with a locking diff. I daily drive a RWD, and the only way to get out of heavy snow is by disabling the ESP and drifting myself out of it
Still only center diff lock in the defender iirc
"I'm gonna pull off in second gear" says a man in a tug of war contest 😂
Diff locks???
@@pugtop Matt his locked
Spoiler: the land rover defender won
OMG why did you have to give it away! 😑😤😪🙄
i knew it
*The Land Rover Defender* that other one is trash.
@Aaron Lhungdim my point exactly...
@Aaron Lhungdim that's why these types of jokes needs to be stopped
New one looks pretty good but the older one has the iconic look.
Couldn't agree more mate
I agree the only Land Rovers I like are the older ones
Yup
New one looks like a Chelsea tractor and I'd hate to get in it with muddy wellies.
You're right the old looks like a jungle jeep😮
Didnt engage diff lock in the old one. So essentially when when the wheels start spinning all the drive will go through one wheel
Exactly not a fair fight
Yeah needs to do this one again
Still would not make a difference the new one is miles ahead
I think Matt knows about diff lock by now. He's mentioned it enough in the past
I though the same looked like it had not engaged
I can smell the clutch from here.
I'm so surprised that the more modern, double as powerful, torquier and more heavy car won this tug of war... not.
But old had a far better tyre...
So they should've had the same tires and they should've put an extra 300 kg weight in the old one :-)
Thanks for saving me waste time watching this, it was always going to be that result when they're paid to give it
But only if the new one works and has no electrical failure... which is not often the case. Land Rover were never reliable no they added all the electronic, good luck.
Check tfl UA-cam quite interesting experience with their new defenders... a nightmare
I too was shocked.....Not.... but I suppose time will tell How long the clever electric last
0:14 look a the amount of flex in the wheel
@Seamus McShamish ua-cam.com/video/lygfYdSUlB0/v-deo.html
Matt you should Drag Race this cars together:
• Audi RSQ8
•Porsche Cayenne Turbo Coupé
•Mercedes-Benz GLE 63s
•BMW X6M Competition
• Lamborghini Urus
• Bentley Bentayga Speed
• Range Rover Sport SVR
• Jeep GC Trackhawk
I know you can't drag race them all at once but it can be great
I'd say replace the porsche cayenne turbo coupe with porsche cayenne turbo s e hybrid coupe for a fairer comparison
These ppl🤦♂️
And a Trackhawk👀😁
@@sevens6666 what?
george ibrahim it’ll be very hard to gather all these expensive cars together but if they did, they cant drag race all 7 of them at once
This is what computers are doing to your car!
They're turning the damn frogs gay?
@chris murphy nah, ur just behind the times
Omg you're commenting on every vid
@@sharas3180 what's the fun to be driving a car that does everything for you?
Making it even better
Low range was engaged but the lever was over to the right so the diff lock wasn't engaged. Essentially the Pretender beat the Defender while the Defender was in 1 wheel drive mode. You also have a clutch - use it to advantage to get the load moving the way it is meant to move.
The old defender is just for show the new ones are work horses.
I am afraid it’s just a matter of time when the first computers on the new Defender start to fail... My 1995 Land Rover Defender Tdi is still purring around 😉
Zzzzz. Your 95 defender has needed a load of work, don’t lie
That old saying is dead and buried. I remember when the discovery 3 came out. We heard the same old claptrap. 15 years old/later & it’s still going like a dream.
Ok mine is the 4.4 V8, so probably the more reliable engine than the tdv6. But it’s full of ecu computers terrain response trickery & they are all still working like the day it was new.
‘purring’ haha.
(1987 110 owner).
See TFL's 2020 Defender story of misery
Some of the best Defenders were sold here in Australia- JRA brought them to Australia with the option of a Isuzu 3.9 diesel- bombproof next to the Rover V8
Only the Queen knows how to steer her old friend
I mean the defender
Queen know how to ride dinosaur
@@kecoakerok8240 Shut up kecoa, who is you
@@fitti2678 who are you*
@@s.2124 Who am i ,who is You
@@kecoakerok8240 lmfao
Now have a competition fixing them in the middle of nowhere with only a screwdriver and a socket set?!
Ouch hahaha. Hillarious.
New defender vs Hummer H1. Who's up for this
Not a good comparison
EV Defender when..
@@dr.science_0177 Yeah the weight difference is too massive.
A H1 with Cummins diesel
Meeeeee😂😂😂
It may sound counterintuitive but because the old one has open mechanical diffs you need to feather the brakes to load resistance onto the free spinning wheel so that the power is more evenly distributed between all the wheels. Or for the price of a couple of wing mirrors on the new one just buy front and rear diff lockers. The new Defender is fantastic out of the box if you’re not experienced, and just speaking personally- I wouldn’t want to be in an accident in the old one, even though I own one ha ha.
This seems like a promotional work
bring a defender vr G wagon .
Defender will🔥
G Wagon lost against the RR Sport. This Def if anything has even better traction than the RR, so...
Definitely Defender will defeat G wagon
@@LucaCoppadoro g wagon with off road knobbly tyres vs defender
@@Smexy_af with the exact same tires it could be interesting...
I still wouldn't buy the new Defender. The old one still looks dope
👍🏻🧐
Ok
Go ahead
Dope ?
In the middle of the Aussie outback, I definitely wouldn't choose the Defender that has a million electronic things that could fail
Ps: Matt if you knew how to drive off road it would also help!
old for off-road
new for on-road
I hope the new defender didn't have to visit the dealership for a repair after pulling the old mighty defender.LOL😂
@Seamus McShamish , They're great if you know how to maintain them. Like all vehicles they have their faults, they're certainly not junk though.
Watch TFL channel and you will get the answer
Oh please TFL’s car is just a lemon. Not all of em are. We had our defender x for about 6 months now. We have 20,000 miles on it. Perfectly fine. Land Rover is great.
@@themarauder6108 from your pfp you might seem a bit biased, nah but for real land cruiser is where it's at
But guess what our defender has no problems dumbass. Nothing is going on. My family member also has a defender first edition. His has 13,000 miles. No damn issues.
The older version are timeless
The song "Timeless??? 😂
Can you please make a comparison between the New Defender, and the "New" Discovery, both on- and off road? It would be interesting to see these two compared...
They made an off road video
They would both need the same tyres and number of diff locks for it to be a fair comparison.
ua-cam.com/video/L8o2BT3JCgM/v-deo.html
@@SackAttack81 On this comparison, or between the new defender and the disco?
@@drano1614 I meant the new Defender and the Discovery 5. But that should have been done with both Defenders as well. I am not sure that the diff lock on the old Defender was engaged. They also should have used an old Defender with a bigger engine more on par with the new Defender as well.
Mat the old one does have traction control and ABS, I’m rather disappointed that you didn’t to your research:(
It is not the failure of the cars...
It’s about Matt’s driving.
I love the new one but, the old one never gets old. :)
Do an all Toyota Hybrid drag race.
- Corolla
- Auris
- Prius
- Yaris
Pls man I wanna see this happen.
Yepppp
Uber car drag race
How about racing a BMW Isseta and a reliant robin...
Toyota boring
Honda Insight vs Toyota Prius
The new one had rope attached higher then the old one. Its big advantage
Yes this renders the whole exercise futile without a purely horizontal pull.
The new one would still win. Stop complaining. Just suck it and move on. Complain complain complain.
@@Keoponloeu new defender is just a fancy suv old model is a true defender
@@Keoponloeu Im not complaining XD I just would like to watch a fair fight. Do you think I give a fuck about which one would win XD
Maybe get someone who knows how to drive would make the difference
I think the Defender being in second gear, going forward, with the clutch out and STILL getting dragged backwards as soon as the new one engaged some power nullified the driving skill argument. This is a striking result (and I really like the old Defender).
I thought just like you!
No it was definitely the vehicles. I prefer the old model but have to admit the new one is quite impressive.
Diff lock on the old one wasn't engaged. Traction control is available on the old one. And anti stall is only on first gear low. On grass its always down to tyres and weight.
I wish these things were done properly.
Also note the rope is higher on the new defender. This will have the affect of lifting the weight off the old one and driving the new one down into the ground. I'm not convinced that a 110 with difflock and traction control with those tyres would loose to a new defender when it had road biased.
For the record I have a 110 XS Utility. It has traction control and centre difflock.
That was no fun to me .. doesn't matter, old defender still the ultimate off-roader
The old one is still the best
Check out the "new vs old defender offroad test" by carwow and you might change your mind. The new Defender makes it look like it's taking a stroll to the shops.
@@TROPtastic mmm... I saw it, it made me a little bit upset... they made the old one look like a rubbish... and old one is ultimate extreme offroader... the new one is an SUV, the old one is a truck.. plus the tests involved speed and response, so new defender was going to win in anything that includes speed, comfort, response, etc... but if you go to extreme offroad, plus you are a good driver of course, cause that’s basically what you need for the old to be good of course... the new one helps you with everything, even though you can watch mor offroading videos between these too, and you’ll see what I’m talking about
Depends on what you want something for the defender is supposed to be a work vehicle to me and many others in that case old trumps new in every way.
Since Matt has even brought Trucks to race who else will one day hope to see Even Buses drag race😁😁
And airplaines
@@m.a.g.a9173 yeah!!like those jet fighters
What about trains
@@lowrider69yearsago58 🤣 maybe hot air balloons
He needs to do a drag race for buses in 🇱🇰
Nice
Did you watch it ?
Noice
Yes
Nice you 1st
For the old defender being so beat on the numbers.. it put up a good fight. 👊
I love how they realised for the 2nd tug “ crap we need to move the cone” 😅
You can tell the course has been specially set up for the new Defender especially on the rut bit on the other vid where the old one got stuck-no coincidence! unfortunately correspondants won't get another car to review if they are derrogatory. The old defender was loved because it was a no gimmicks no airbags basics farm vehicle that was'nt bought for the road-thats what the disco was for!
Just one thing: 56000£!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait to see if this suspension and other things are still working after 40 years like the old and reliable Defender!!!!!!!!!!
How many 40 year old cars do you see driving around
@@ChurchDenton from 1980????? a lot!!!!!!!!!!!
Drove an old 90 the other day.Hell its old fashioned inside and found it easier when doing tight manoeuvres to open the window and have my elbow out lol.
Frankly it was great !!!!
After a long time a new version of a car is tougher and better than the old one.
Old body and new features and technology.......
Best matching ever !
The new defender is definitely underrated.
Ye it's a great car really it's just that many people think it doesn't look like a defender and so they're just hating on it. I think it's a great car and considering how old the original is, the new defender would have looked something like the new one anyway.
Fact: Land Rover will win
I just stare at my phone and wait for carwow to upload, love it
Get some fresh air.
@@mattyg2540 can't with face mask on
@@morepanicboy7120 since when was it required by law to wear a face mask in your local park? Stupid excuse 😂
Just put the notification on
All these reviews are great matt. Yes the new one might win but that's only on the days the computers work...in landrover case not very often
Old is gold..
Next Suggestion: G Wagon Vs New Defender
I've yet to see anyone do an actual fair tug of war, the new defender is pulling higher, it'll win every time.
@Seamus McShamish absolutely land rover are paying them to make up for their mistakes
@Seamus McShamish and he hasn't driven the manual and so long he probably doesn't even know how to ingauge the lock
@Seamus McShamish no don't think so he's getting to much expensive German cars that do everything for you he'd be hopeless in a early 00s car with 0 electric Nanny's
A heavier, more powerful and torque vehicle is going to win every time, so what exactly is this video supposed to prove?
@@onetonlandrover ya I can't understand it either
New Defender vs Ashville's Disco 5: Tug of war + Drag race
I would like to see a drag race between a pair of power boats. And a tug of war of course
I'm waiting for the carrying firewood and chainsaws test. The repairs and maintenance in the field test would be interesting too.
“Stop, stop! I’ve lost, I’ve lost... AT EVERYTHING!”
Bring back the Lamborghini SVJ!!!
Carwow: "NEW or the VINTAGE?"
EVERYONE: "Doesn't matter we came for GREATNESS!"
Ya the old ones are way better
new one is a million times better except less reliable
the old has 1 big advantage, it's gonna last and when it goes wrong it's an easier fix
If the older one was in production right now, then the older one definitely. I love the look of the Older Defender, but the new Defender is a Banger too !!
Who wants tug of war between hummer and the (old defender+new defender)
Reminds me of when I used to do tug of war with my dad. Lost every match.
The "new one" will not survive long in the wild, because the "normal" person can no longer lend a hand!!!
"Helicopter deployment, helicopter deployment" ...
most ppl wont take it serious off roading tho
Nothing beats a good tug on a saturday morning
2:12 I love Matt's *No nO*
Mat Watson for Top Gear
⬇️
Hi northern accent would annoy people like me from Surrey to much couldn't watch him for an hr
Top Gear is history
You're kidding right. He can't even say "sitting". Every video it's "I'm sat in ...". The twat drives me nuts.
@Seamus McShamish drives better than you tho
@@markc6714 Why are you watching their videos then?
Not gonna lie, I would much rather drive the new Defender everyday on the road than the old Defender
@Seamus McShamish ehhhhhh.....
@@injin5557 they actually suck to drive so
then a car may be a better option
@Seamus McShamish no they are not, one is an off road icon and the other is supremely comfortable on road
@@ACplanet you mean a sedan, the word "car" is derived from the word "carriage", so all types of cars are cars
The borat scene 😂😂
The terrain response repair bill amongst others in that will also be amazing when it spends more time in the garage having numerous repairs done on its electronics as are this company is famous for.
Tug of war is super waiting for next episode
I don't know why but I kind of LIKE the old Defender.
yeh it seems everyone does for some odd reason
@Seamus McShamish there's nothing wrong with the new one. It's a lot like the new one but even more capable if less reliable...
Old Defender win every time, it's simple less electronics to go wrong.
Yeah course it is..
Thumbnail - "Tug of WAP"
👁️👄👁️
The old defender has open diffs on the axles, so it has only got two wheel drive, one front and one back. It has no traction control to balance it out. I used to run Quaife ATB diffs back and front, which transforms it.
Who thought the old rugged defender would *win* !
Hey mat, do a tug of war between Defender P400 Vs G63 AMG Vs Range Rover Sport SVR.
I’m sticking with the old Landrover Defender that’s a solid SUV I love ❤️ my old Landrover TDi.
It's not an SUV. It's a car, or a 4x4 if you must.
Old Every Time, I adore my 90, I wont be waving to these ....
Tug of war
Mat v yianni
The old 110 any day! Even here in Aus 🇦🇺
Waited for this
I love these vids too 😲🤓
4:07 you can hear him laughing from the outside.
The most unknowledgeable channel on off-roading doing a scientifically pointless test. lol.
@@nickdown5025 👏👏👏. 😏
Interesting to see the cybertruck against the defender!
Old cars: Driver assistance required.
New cars: Driver not necessary.
I expected a drag race instead 😂
Of course mat used the old one, how else would it have lost. Land rover is funding this video so all the results are predecided
How about a 'what can it tug' of war? Then look at the weight of the thing it can tug Vs the weight of the vehicle.
Jimney myth busted???
Watching this after watching the new defender from Stafford pull a loaded car transporter. The new defender just got so much power 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Make it a fair fight and use an old defender with cross axle diff locks (and someone who actually knows how to drive a 4WD).
I think this is the way forward for me,doing car of war,my mates wind me up for having no guns
This range Rover lies out of my range 😔
Always these unrealistic tests... imagine someone going off-road with a Land Rover
They have already done the off road test.
I really like that new Discovery. The soundsystem and the massage seats are awesome.
That terrain response did a sublime job 👌
When is the new s class review coming out?!
Damn, m early this time!
@@fresky74 did him dirty lmfaoo
@@fresky74 I mean, what could I've said without actually watching the video (─.─||）
You should stop doing tug of war on grass.
Grass doesn't give traction , but a paved surface dies give.
It's just weight and tires.
Thought you would even the weight of both cars because the older defender's wheel was spinning but the newer one was just too heavy. Rematch please