My honest opinion is that relatively cheap cars like Duster, Panda, Jimny, etc are best off-road, because you wouldn't be afraid of your car as much when you drive expensive ones, so you would personally perform better.
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@@MRQ. I get what you're saying but that last part doesn't make sense. The cheaper car would still be cheaper for a rich buyer than the more expensive car.
Not only the price also how the car looks like. The expensive cars are so long and cheaps are not so long which do a better job at some off road problems
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@Vux no it isn't. The old one if you kitted it out was an offroad monster.. the new one is a lightweight I seen a vid of a Grand Vitara spank one offroad the only thing it beat the Suzuki on was ground clearance
I once went offloading (muddy mountain forest roads) in an old vitara with good tyres, joined by a pajero(shogun) and a duster with BF Goodrich Tyres. The Duster did an amazing job. I don't like the way it drives on tarmac, but otherwise, it's great.
@gerrybailey447 hmmm... well it would be close. The very best off road vehicles are light ones.. look at the Lada Niva and the off road vehicles farmers use these days. The Defender has extremely sophisticated traction control which would compensate for its huge weight... to an extent but there's always a point at which the laws of physics kick in. Where I live, on a hill farm in Northumberland England, many of the farmers still have old Daihatsu 4tracks from the 1990s because they are super light, super tough and literally go anywhere, half the size of the Defender. Also the Duster is a huge seller round here. What you don't see much of is new Defenders.. they are extortionate and are seen as luxury cars for the rich, you only see them with fishing rods or when there's a pheasant shoot... both very expensive here. My money would be on the Duster IF it had an experienced off road driver. If both drivers were novices or they were both experienced I suspect the Defender would clinch it. For the record, we have a Mitsubishi Shogun (Montrero/Pajero) long wheel base, which is quite an old fashioned 4x4 with mud tyres on it, it pretty much goes anywhere but for the really tricky stuff it's a quadbike or a tractor at the end of the day. I wouldn't but either the Defender (too expensive, too complex for us to service easily) or the Duster (too small, this is our family car). But once the kids have left I would consider a Duster. Edit... just re read your question... Defender on road vs Duster on off road: Duster, every time. Last winter I was at a funeral in rural Somerset, very wet and muddy, the Church used a field as an overspill lots of London plated Range Rovers and new Defenders on road tyres. I ended up towing 5 of these out of the field with my Shogun on semi muds. They were completely stuck. Tyres are everything especially in mud
It's also the weight. As much as those driver aids on the Defender remove skill caps, I think I would feel more confident in the car weighing 1 ton less.
The Defender may have won on points (and so it should at the price) but had the Duster been fitted with equivalent off-road tyres the result would have been even closer. Personally, I think the Duster is incredible value for money and an accomplished off-road vehicle to boot... 👍
@@perfectnkuna6533 Just admit the cheap nugget on very chea road tires did everything the posh tractor did on AT tires, without really breaking a sweat
Despite being both a Land Rover owner and “fan boy” you really do have to give Dacia credit for building a very capable 4ish car. They really are far more capable off road, especially with decent tyres fitted, than people give them credit for
So damn agree with you ! Here in Serbia, you can find thousands of Dusters. That's mostly because we are bordering with Romania and , just like UK, Serbia is in a great relationship with Romania, when it comes to car selling/dealership.
As many have said, the Duster with proper off road tyres would've been more interesting. But I would like to see Duster with offroad tyres vs Defender with summer street tyres. Then it would've been more interesting (and close)!
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@@terrydelahunt842 The tyres had little to do with the results on this very easy course, nether of these vehicles would be used by serious off roaders, the modern defender is to expensive with to much to go wrong and for the price of the Duster you could get an old 90 defender that would put both to shame.
So the Duster with no aids and crappy street tires made it through everything the Defender went through with all of the aids and off-road tires, but it was a little bit slower. Can you do this same test again with the duster having off-road tires and the Defender in regular street tires? I'd love to see those results. Or I don't know, maybe give them both the same kind of tires and test it? This was not a fair test, but the Duster was impressive.
The truth is though that most cars would make it. All a car needs is decent ground clearance, and then once you start adding things like 4 wheel drive and good tyres it becomes even easier. The difference is though that when it's your own car, you want to look after it, you don't want to just make it whilst absolutely knackering the engine, transmission and all the suspension components. That's why you pay more for a vehicle like a Defender, because it can also make it (just like any economy car could've made all the same challenges), but it has the capacity to do a lot more, so it's not torturing the car, but rather using it as intended. If you treated your Duster like this every day, it would be a very sorry sight after around 1 year and would be worth nothing.
@@alembic1105 I would recomend you to visit some shepperd camps in the Carpathian mountains to see how those shepperds use the Duster daily. What you just saw here is a stroll in a park for them. And,of course,loaded with one ton of cereals bags,milk,cheese,whatever,not empty. Last time i saw one there,i couldn't figure what brand or colour was untill it was washed the mud from it.
Very entertaining. Obscene price rules out the Land Rover, for its price the the Dacia is winner for me as its the only one that is a reasonable price & better reliability record
yea yea. cause the double wishbone front suspension that gives more travel, specially designed air springs for more travel, greater angles and ground clearence, two locking diffs with low range and the best off road traction control on the market are not enough lool. Im sure tires were the deciding factor
I am proud for Dacia Duster as it is made in Romania my native country . At that price Dacia won by far in my opinion . Dacia has a number of models very popular in Romania and Europe as well being priced very affordable . Their pick up version is a huge success, too bad they stopped producing those models , my brother has one and at 300.000 km diesel is still priced as when he purchased it at around 7000 dollars almost 15 years ago . Amazing cars . Check also Dacia Logan , Dacia Sandero and Doker . Dacia was the name of my country 2000+ years ago and the Roman Empire had to wage 2 wars with huge armies to conquer Dacia . Among all models I think Dacia probably sell 1,000,000 units every year , I sure hope so . Bravo Romania !
Hmmmm only conquered by the Roman empire? Austro Hungarians, Ottomans, Russians, Germans. Ref the test, completely non comparable vehicles in this test.
@@mattjames4608 The Romanian Country, Moldova and Transylvania were never totally conquered; The Austro-Hungarian Empire only held Transylvania under their rule, Moldova was never conquered by anyone and the Romanian Country (the south part of today's Romania) was briefly occupied and always bounced back from the Turks (dark ages) and the Germans (WW2). Dobrogea, where I'm from, was always a Greek bastion until the Ottoman Empire occupied it and lost it after the First World War, when we got to unite under a single flag with the help of the French army and general Berthelot.
The defender is gonna be 22k pounds in a few years and 10 k repairs every year after that . The duster can be repaired with the price of the defender’s wheels….
I routinely see older RRs getting scrapped simply because the electronics problems write them off. For a Pretender trying to claim to be the most off-road capable from the brand, that's a major issue. A fault with a door handle on the Pretender could leave the vehicle stranded and unable to start, if it caused network issues. Hardly something you could trust in extreme locations unless you were a diagnostic expert with a full kit in the boot.
The Defender will cost far more especially once out of warranty, the one I have for work has had so many electronic faults in its first year God knows how it’s gonna last five years to hopefully be replaced with a Grenadier or a Toyota.
Duster All terrain tyres v Land Rover proper off road tyres? The Most important thing on any off road test is the tyres. Id like to see the Duster with proper off roads. Not a fair test in any way actually then. Duster kills it.
The new defender needs every advantage it can get. A Russian channel that tests them all spanked one with an old 2008 Grand Vitara both were on Avon AX7 and it wasn't just a slight beating, the Grand Vitara embarrassed it.
I do own a Duster and it's a fantastic car. Cheap, easy to repair and I've never get stuck in mud or snow, even on mountain off roads. Great value for money.
Honestly the Dacia is really impressive, between the two the Dacia is the obvious winner for me, you can near enough 4 of them for the price of that Defender and that sounds like fun days with a couple friends or buy one and use the remaining 60k to run it forever
@@zeedustrakok yeah right, people *financing them you mean, the same people who are known for losing their fake pyramid business money and the house and all that is on the market the next day. About 1% of the people who drive these actually have £85k to spare.
@@zeedustrakok you'd think that but they are purely aimed at lifestyle buyers now, they'll over extend themselves to impress the neighbours and create the image of themselves they want. Loads buying these will be people who really shouldn't be spending 85k on a car.
thanks Mat for highlighting the weight , one day we have to safe the climate and the duster is almost 1000 kg lighter and so need less energy .the duster wins.
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If the Dacia had the same off road tyres as the Land Rover, there would have been even less of a difference, good old Duster, could have a fleet of them for the ridiculous price of the less reliable Land Rover
This wasn't a ture off road test and in a true of road test the duster wouldn't get near however for the price it's a decent car but if you could afford either your buying a defender
As others have said, when you consider the price of the Duster and the fact that it had road biased tyres, I’d say that was very impressive! I know which wins on the value stakes 🤔
As cool and capable as the Defender is I struggle to accept its really worth over £80k! That said you cant get hold of them new so plenty of people seem to think they are. The Duster went everywhere the Defender did though for 60k less!
For about 3000 euros, in Romania, you can turn your Duster into Mudster, that is, offroad tires, a higher suspension and some other mods. They look great and perform great offroad.
As I own a 4 wheel drive duster I would say it wins hands down on value for money and it’s off road performance. Great car at a great price and so much fun to drive👍👌
Any particular reason for driving up the hill in the first test using only 2WD in the Duster (you did say it coud use 4WD)? That said, the Duster was only narrowly beaten into 2nd place. Also consider that the Duster was on 'All Season' road tyres whereas the Defender had off-road tyres. Hardly fair to the Duster.
Dacia have to be admired for making such a good all round capable car for the price. I would seriously consider owning one without a doubt. Those 1.5 DCI are a hardy little unit and will undoubtedly be the far more reliable and durable car in the long term.
i have owned Land rover Defender, Jeep Rubicon, Toyota Prado and my latest car is a 4X4 Duster. By far Duster is the best i have driven offroad. All cars had offroad setu. Duster is light and cheap. Less parts tend to be broken.
I love the fact thet the duster gives this expensive behemoth a run for it’s money! Such a cheep car will actually be the best off-road choice to the “average” buyer.
The truth is the Duster didn't fail to complete any of the challenges, had it been shod with off road tyres as the Defender had I'm sure it would of been even better in some of the tests ! plus you can buy FOUR Dusters for the price of one Defender 👍
You forgot to add in that the Defender would be in the garage for most of the time having all this tech repaired....... Got a Duster, best car I ever owned!
Love it, as a long time Military Off Road Driving Instructor (30+yrs) and equally long term Land Rover enthusiast, That little Dacia was excellent and I would be far more inclined to Off Road that than an 84k Land Rover, that said, I have and on the LR testing facility which is extreme. Few Off road situations require the ability of the Land rover (which is the best.....with a knowledgeable driver). Good boots on the Dacia and a knowledgeable driver would see the Dacia going almost anywhere for a keckmof a lot less money, including maint. and longevity.
To understand the off-road performance of the Duster better, you need to come to Romania and drive for a while on some back country roads. Besides off-road tires for the Duster, what both cars could have used is off-road drivers.
Can have three Dusters for the price of that Defender. Can use two for off roading, use one to pull the other out if needed, and keep one nice and clean for pottering about in on road. The change left over could be used for a nice holiday - Simples 😊
I’d have the Duster all day long over the Land Rover. All those electronics required for it to do well combined with their reliability track record means it will just be an expensive paper weight. Watch the TFL series where they had to go through 3 Defenders just to do their testing.
Love my 4x2 duster bifuel. It is saving me a fortune in fuel costs and by putting a set of all weather tyres will get me through anything I’d throw at it. Compared to this video anyway! Great value for money!
I have the same as you in Iron Blue. Bought mine in October 2021 and am very happy with it. Since the fuel price hike I have been even happier (86 cts/ litre for LPG here whilst Unleaded is easily more than €2 per litre!). Being in mountainous Auvergne I’ve gone for a twin set of wheels (Standard Continental Eco-Contacts for the Summer and reinforced Goodyear Ultra Grip + for the Winter. Bonne route!
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Amazing !!! that helped me to cancel my DefenderX order and buy 2 Duster and still have some money left. I'll use that for the Holidays. Thanks for the informative video
8:41 4WD was not active, you can figure it out just by watching the rear wheels. Maybe the driver forgot to activate it and let the car on 2WD mode or maybe it was intentional.
Nicely pointed out indeed, running on 2wd uphill and with all-seasons road tires is a major handicap that proves that "the little engine that could" rises up to the challenge and accomplishes the task.
@@invisisense5464 ummm anyone who wants to get to proper offroad destinations will man. Get real it's the new defender nobody wants for offroading it's abysmal reliability for a start. Toyota, Isuzu and Suzuki will always be sought after for proper off-road duty. Ohh and I bought one to tow my boat after my mate humiliated my Rangey in one. You need a reality check
@@1catchem yeah. No joke mate have you ever seen a newer 4x4 have to tow an older one out of a drama situation? Neither have I. All I see now is the older lighter 4x4s getting further down Launch ramp or further down the beach or further down the estuary to launch and retrieve. I drew the line when my rangey vogue needed towed out by vehicles that cost a few grand. Then I noticed a pattern in what they used as boat yard mules and rescue vehicles.. and the staff car park. Nothing but Japanese 4x4s not even new ones. Same as the mines in Australia they use kitted out Landcruisers for the heaviest duty work and Grand Vitaras for the lighter duty work and when they swapped the Grand Vitaras for Rangers around about 2014-1015 the Fords lasted about a 5th of the duty time as the Suzuki and Toyota. Brands like Land Rover and the usual German manufacturers just DO NOT take part In such difficult work, they wouldn't dare even be put forward for consideration, they make police cars and that's the full truth right there. New defender the only thing it got right was the ground clearance.. everything else is abysmal compared to a £3k 20yr old Japanese 4x4.
There should have been one final test, 10 rounds of the entire course. The reliably unreliable landrover would have broken down and only cost a few thousand to repair but the duster would have just done it without any mechanical or electronic trickery melt downs. I am a lifelong landy fan but tbf if that duster was just better looking inside and out, i would be tempted.
That was a great challenge and a fantastic video, thank you - I do love car reviews for 'normal' cars - so much motor journalism is about cars the price of houses, nice to see a bit of reality creep in!
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I'm sure the Defender would (and for the price, should) win but this test is like me wearing flip-flops in a race with Usain Bolt ! As all the comments say it's difficult to compare without like for like tyres but the Duster is very capable for the price. Well done Dacia 👍
Defender had off road tyres, the Duster had normal street tyres. Makes a huge difference. It also seems as if the driver of the Duster never had the 4x4 locked, only normal 4x4. I think there should be a rematch. AT Tyres for the Duster, 4x4 locked all the time. I suspect a different result just might happen...
The Duster has more in common with an old Defender than the new Defender. In fact the power and torque figures are within 10hp/nm of the TDI engines found in most Defenders from the 90s
An owner of a Defender had an air shock go bad and it was not covered under warranty. Price: $2,700 for the part - not including labor. The Duster is one you can grow to love while the Defender could be the one to despise as it becomes an expensive toy.
I'd buy a Duster (if it was available in Canada) and the money I saved from the Defender would be awesome! Plus I find the Duster looks a LOT nicer and modern compared to the Defender.
Very impressed with the Duster - especially as its tyres were inferior to the Land Rover's for the conditions of the test. Heavy vehicles need more technology because they're far more likely to get stuck. It would be interesting to see a test, with the same tyres on both vehicles, on soft, boggy ground.
I love the look of the Defender, and if money was no object, it would be my first choice. But the Duster is amazing value for money, and would suit all but the extreme off road enthusiasts, especially with off road tyres fitted. And an ideal school run car, as it is smaller on the road than a Defender.
@@Grandeception there are no rules . The Dacia was given extra points out of sympathy, otherwise it would have been 7 and 11 meaning the defender battered the shitty dacia
When you go off road especially on that kind of terrain speeding up is pointless and irrelevant! The Duster is the winner for me, It does pretty much everything without a fuss, and if it had proper off road tyres it would have been more impressive!
How about doing a repair comparison. How long each vehicle spends in the dealers over the next 3 years followed by cost of repairs out of warranty. Pretty much a foregone conclusion that the duster would win that hands down, more reliable and cheaper to fix, which from past history isn't very often, unlike the land rover which spends its life in the dealers/workshop.
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It would be nice to see the Defender vs Discovery vs Range Rover Sport in this course and see which is the best as they could all be used for off road & daily basis.
Wow... soon you will get to be an experienced Duster driver and discover the ESP OFF function/button to avoid loosing engine power ;) - also now imagine an upgraded Duster :)
I have a 2019 duster. I am really happy with its comfort and performance (considering the price range) . Only complaint is that 2 of its ac vent tabs have come off. Any idea how to DIY replace it?
My honest opinion is that relatively cheap cars like Duster, Panda, Jimny, etc are best off-road, because you wouldn't be afraid of your car as much when you drive expensive ones, so you would personally perform better.
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@@MRQ. exactly my thought when reading the original comment.
@@MRQ. I get what you're saying but that last part doesn't make sense. The cheaper car would still be cheaper for a rich buyer than the more expensive car.
@@mauripekkarinen1 for a rich buyer they would both be cheap, so he wouldn't care either way
Not only the price also how the car looks like. The expensive cars are so long and cheaps are not so long which do a better job at some off road problems
Considering Duster is just 1/4th of the Defender price - it's really impressive performance in off-road
Yes, and it's way more reliable than the Land Rover.
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@@valiblaj and also more reliable than Nissan.
@Vux no it isn't. The old one if you kitted it out was an offroad monster.. the new one is a lightweight I seen a vid of a Grand Vitara spank one offroad the only thing it beat the Suzuki on was ground clearance
@@valiblaj You beat me to it lol, can't believe there's so many people with more money than commonsense.
In Slovenia the mountain rescue teams use Dusters with off road tires. They just love them Dusters.
It really is all it's lacking to be a proper off-roader. A set of better tires.
Same in Romania. They're everywhere.
Same i Croatia
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Iceland is full of Dacia Dusters
The little Duster against a Chelsea Tractor, the car you will never use or see off road. Really impressed with the Duster.
When the Defender has been in the garage for 6 weeks and nobody has a clue what is wrong with it the Duster will still be chugging merrily along😁
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"Cannot duplicate the error"
Tyres are everything with off road, I'm seriously impressed at the duster performing like that on road tyres.
I once went offloading (muddy mountain forest roads) in an old vitara with good tyres, joined by a pajero(shogun) and a duster with BF Goodrich Tyres. The Duster did an amazing job.
I don't like the way it drives on tarmac, but otherwise, it's great.
I have a y260 Nissan patrol and yes tyres made a huge difference, in muddy terrain its everything
They're all-season tyres to be fair, so not really off-road, but better than a road tyre.
Tyres make all the difference, a defender on road tyres against the duster on off road tyres! Which would you bet on?
@gerrybailey447 hmmm... well it would be close. The very best off road vehicles are light ones.. look at the Lada Niva and the off road vehicles farmers use these days.
The Defender has extremely sophisticated traction control which would compensate for its huge weight... to an extent but there's always a point at which the laws of physics kick in. Where I live, on a hill farm in Northumberland England, many of the farmers still have old Daihatsu 4tracks from the 1990s because they are super light, super tough and literally go anywhere, half the size of the Defender. Also the Duster is a huge seller round here. What you don't see much of is new Defenders.. they are extortionate and are seen as luxury cars for the rich, you only see them with fishing rods or when there's a pheasant shoot... both very expensive here.
My money would be on the Duster IF it had an experienced off road driver. If both drivers were novices or they were both experienced I suspect the Defender would clinch it.
For the record, we have a Mitsubishi Shogun (Montrero/Pajero) long wheel base, which is quite an old fashioned 4x4 with mud tyres on it, it pretty much goes anywhere but for the really tricky stuff it's a quadbike or a tractor at the end of the day.
I wouldn't but either the Defender (too expensive, too complex for us to service easily) or the Duster (too small, this is our family car). But once the kids have left I would consider a Duster.
Edit... just re read your question... Defender on road vs Duster on off road: Duster, every time.
Last winter I was at a funeral in rural Somerset, very wet and muddy, the Church used a field as an overspill lots of London plated Range Rovers and new Defenders on road tyres. I ended up towing 5 of these out of the field with my Shogun on semi muds. They were completely stuck.
Tyres are everything especially in mud
I wonder what the Dacia would have performed like with the proper tyres. I love its sheer simplicity, to tell the truth.
It's also the weight. As much as those driver aids on the Defender remove skill caps, I think I would feel more confident in the car weighing 1 ton less.
A bit like the original Defender before "Labmwnd Rover" went high tech...
The Defender may have won on points (and so it should at the price) but had the Duster been fitted with equivalent off-road tyres the result would have been even closer. Personally, I think the Duster is incredible value for money and an accomplished off-road vehicle to boot... 👍
i do agree wholeheartedly they souls be fitted with like for like
And if it had the more powerful engine in the duster maibye it would had been even closer ☺️
Just admit it the dust doesn't stand a chance to defender tbh
@@perfectnkuna6533 no-one's saying the Duster would win, just impressed how close it was given the enormous price difference.
@@perfectnkuna6533 Just admit the cheap nugget on very chea road tires did everything the posh tractor did on AT tires, without really breaking a sweat
Despite being both a Land Rover owner and “fan boy” you really do have to give Dacia credit for building a very capable 4ish car. They really are far more capable off road, especially with decent tyres fitted, than people give them credit for
So damn agree with you ! Here in Serbia, you can find thousands of Dusters. That's mostly because we are bordering with Romania and , just like UK, Serbia is in a great relationship with Romania, when it comes to car selling/dealership.
and if you pay a little money as in 700 euro for a limited slip diff for the rear it would work even better!
@@Vm94-p7u we also used to sell the ARO new up until 2014 in Czech republic
drove a duster all around Iceland never let me down over some ridiculous terrain amazing little vehicle.
I will do this this summer hence why I’m watching this video lol
As many have said, the Duster with proper off road tyres would've been more interesting. But I would like to see Duster with offroad tyres vs Defender with summer street tyres. Then it would've been more interesting (and close)!
99% of those defenders will never need off-road tyres. The people buying them won't be able to spell off road near mind go there
@@terrydelahunt842 true.. but you will need deep pockets and mechanic skills to keep the Defender going in future👍
@@G-Cam1 yep. Wouldn't be for me at all even if I could afford it!
@@terrydelahunt842 we had Landies (every kind) for 2 decades.. i built a workshop.. put in a ramp.. spent lots of time and ££. Fixing them..
We have gone fully EV.. the workshop has not seen an modern vehicle (EV) in the last 4 years😂.
I loved the Landies..
I have no Landie now...
Just more money and time for other things🤣🤣👍
@@terrydelahunt842 The tyres had little to do with the results on this very easy course, nether of these vehicles would be used by serious off roaders, the modern defender is to expensive with to much to go wrong and for the price of the Duster you could get an old 90 defender that would put both to shame.
“No skills required just £84000” 😂😂
It’s 84,000 pounds Sterling £ not dollars. In dollars it’s probably more like a hundred thousand.
@@marksapollo done ✅ thank you ☺️
still you need some skills to earn those 84k.
@@kagiv Or a rich daddy
@@leopoldbluesky true:(
Impressive results for the Duster especially looking at the disadvantage in tires.
So the Duster with no aids and crappy street tires made it through everything the Defender went through with all of the aids and off-road tires, but it was a little bit slower. Can you do this same test again with the duster having off-road tires and the Defender in regular street tires? I'd love to see those results.
Or I don't know, maybe give them both the same kind of tires and test it? This was not a fair test, but the Duster was impressive.
The truth is though that most cars would make it. All a car needs is decent ground clearance, and then once you start adding things like 4 wheel drive and good tyres it becomes even easier. The difference is though that when it's your own car, you want to look after it, you don't want to just make it whilst absolutely knackering the engine, transmission and all the suspension components. That's why you pay more for a vehicle like a Defender, because it can also make it (just like any economy car could've made all the same challenges), but it has the capacity to do a lot more, so it's not torturing the car, but rather using it as intended. If you treated your Duster like this every day, it would be a very sorry sight after around 1 year and would be worth nothing.
The test was meh indeed, but get yourself some BFG on your duster and you ll be keeping up with G wagons.
ye but still Duster showed us it's possible @@alembic1105
This guy loves to rubbish the Duster. He sneers at it terribly in earlier videos.
@@alembic1105 I would recomend you to visit some shepperd camps in the Carpathian mountains to see how those shepperds use the Duster daily. What you just saw here is a stroll in a park for them. And,of course,loaded with one ton of cereals bags,milk,cheese,whatever,not empty. Last time i saw one there,i couldn't figure what brand or colour was untill it was washed the mud from it.
The Dacia Duster equipped with standard tyres performed as good as the Defender "in dry conditions " so to me the winner is the Duster hands down.
For wet conditions keep in mind that dacia is almost one tone lighter
Very entertaining. Obscene price rules out the Land Rover, for its price the the Dacia is winner for me as its the only one that is a reasonable price & better reliability record
I'm a Land Rover nut but have a Duster 4x4 as my daily and it's absolutely brilliant.....I thoroughly enjoyed that video!
Do you have the duster for when land rover is in getting repaired??
is it an orange one?
@@rodolfoptx right just a money pit
If the duster was fitted with off road tires like the defender I wouldn’t be surprised if it would have performed even better!
BFG K02s!
Exactly !
yea yea. cause the double wishbone front suspension that gives more travel, specially designed air springs for more travel, greater angles and ground clearence, two locking diffs with low range and the best off road traction control on the market are not enough lool. Im sure tires were the deciding factor
And a lift kit
@@loukasantoniou8054 at an extra +60k I would expect it to win. But not by so little. That Duster did so well.
Defender is the sort of car you dream of owning. Duster is the sort of car you end up buying. Great value for money
I am proud for Dacia Duster as it is made in Romania my native country . At that price Dacia won by far in my opinion . Dacia has a number of models very popular in Romania and Europe as well being priced very affordable . Their pick up version is a huge success, too bad they stopped producing those models , my brother has one and at 300.000 km diesel is still priced as when he purchased it at around 7000 dollars almost 15 years ago . Amazing cars . Check also Dacia Logan , Dacia Sandero and Doker . Dacia was the name of my country 2000+ years ago and the Roman Empire had to wage 2 wars with huge armies to conquer Dacia . Among all models I think Dacia probably sell 1,000,000 units every year , I sure hope so . Bravo Romania !
Hmmmm only conquered by the Roman empire?
Austro Hungarians, Ottomans, Russians, Germans.
Ref the test, completely non comparable vehicles in this test.
@@mattjames4608 The Romanian Country, Moldova and Transylvania were never totally conquered; The Austro-Hungarian Empire only held Transylvania under their rule, Moldova was never conquered by anyone and the Romanian Country (the south part of today's Romania) was briefly occupied and always bounced back from the Turks (dark ages) and the Germans (WW2). Dobrogea, where I'm from, was always a Greek bastion until the Ottoman Empire occupied it and lost it after the First World War, when we got to unite under a single flag with the help of the French army and general Berthelot.
Sir duster is best SUV but in India we are still driving the old variant and that's why sell is down
Te pup
Respect from greece mate. Dusters sold like hotcakes here
The defender is gonna be 22k pounds in a few years and 10 k repairs every year after that .
The duster can be repaired with the price of the defender’s wheels….
I routinely see older RRs getting scrapped simply because the electronics problems write them off. For a Pretender trying to claim to be the most off-road capable from the brand, that's a major issue. A fault with a door handle on the Pretender could leave the vehicle stranded and unable to start, if it caused network issues. Hardly something you could trust in extreme locations unless you were a diagnostic expert with a full kit in the boot.
The Defender will cost far more especially once out of warranty, the one I have for work has had so many electronic faults in its first year God knows how it’s gonna last five years to hopefully be replaced with a Grenadier or a Toyota.
@@gilbert7794 So far I am in no way regretting buying a 2015 Defender prior to them stopping building them! Sad to see them going this way.
@BINAYA KASTHAKAR You speak truth! £30-40k is sensible for a 4x4 going to be used roughly off-road. Beyond that it's a play toy for rich folk.
I still can't believe the price of them, £84K...they certainly don't look £84K!
Duster All terrain tyres v Land Rover proper off road tyres? The Most important thing on any off road test is the tyres. Id like to see the Duster with proper off roads. Not a fair test in any way actually then. Duster kills it.
The new defender needs every advantage it can get. A Russian channel that tests them all spanked one with an old 2008 Grand Vitara both were on Avon AX7 and it wasn't just a slight beating, the Grand Vitara embarrassed it.
Is incredible how the Duster is able to handle all that off-roading.
Well said. I hope that Dacia never change the breakover angles or mess around with approach or departure angles like some manufacturers have.
I do own a Duster and it's a fantastic car. Cheap, easy to repair and I've never get stuck in mud or snow, even on mountain off roads. Great value for money.
Honestly the Dacia is really impressive, between the two the Dacia is the obvious winner for me, you can near enough 4 of them for the price of that Defender and that sounds like fun days with a couple friends or buy one and use the remaining 60k to run it forever
But I wouldn’t want a duster, let alone 4 of them. For the people buying an £85000 defender money won’t be that much of an issue.
@@zeedustrakok yeah right, people *financing them you mean, the same people who are known for losing their fake pyramid business money and the house and all that is on the market the next day. About 1% of the people who drive these actually have £85k to spare.
@@zeedustrakok you'd think that but they are purely aimed at lifestyle buyers now, they'll over extend themselves to impress the neighbours and create the image of themselves they want. Loads buying these will be people who really shouldn't be spending 85k on a car.
@@terrydelahunt842 indeed.
@@terrydelahunt842 your right feedings there kids beans on toast, so they can have a flash car Edinburgh is full of them ,tossers
Dacia performs very well considering his price against defender 🔥❤️
and it didnt even had off rod tyres
@@gamingbigfilipp even sometimes Dacia can perform well against Stratos.
Off road tyres alone is a 2 second advantage on most of those runs
Yep. Even 4.5 seconds advantage on most of the cars on slick tires.
Avon AX7 on any of them would win the race easily and they are half and half tyres
@@bigduphusaj162 your Avons are are cheap clones...
thanks Mat for highlighting the weight , one day we have to safe the climate and the duster is almost 1000 kg lighter and so need less energy .the duster wins.
So actually the duster is a champ!!
Gj great test!
Duster is a real off road!
"No skill required... just £84,000.00" hahaha best line so far.
Always love these off-road races! Keep them coming carwow!
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@Damar Fadlan yeah they are infecting society in general.
If the Dacia had the same off road tyres as the Land Rover, there would have been even less of a difference, good old Duster, could have a fleet of them for the ridiculous price of the less reliable Land Rover
BFG K02s! I have them on my Duster!
@@DaciaProject can you fit Avon AX7 on them Dusters?
Sorry but put those cars in harder terrain and U will see differences. In this U can drive with focus
This wasn't a ture off road test and in a true of road test the duster wouldn't get near however for the price it's a decent car but if you could afford either your buying a defender
@@andyliverpool24 no one who can buy new defender will be interested in Dacia
That’s not a matter of price 😂😂😂
As others have said, when you consider the price of the Duster and the fact that it had road biased tyres, I’d say that was very impressive! I know which wins on the value stakes 🤔
As cool and capable as the Defender is I struggle to accept its really worth over £80k! That said you cant get hold of them new so plenty of people seem to think they are. The Duster went everywhere the Defender did though for 60k less!
The Duster should get an extra 61,610 points. 1 point for every pound saved.
Having Duster with offroad tyres could show its real potential.
For about 3000 euros, in Romania, you can turn your Duster into Mudster, that is, offroad tires, a higher suspension and some other mods. They look great and perform great offroad.
@@thegreengoblin76 maybe some links to see it?
dont worry about the 1yr wait for the landrover as once you have it , it will break instantly and you will have another long wait..
As I own a 4 wheel drive duster I would say it wins hands down on value for money and it’s off road performance. Great car at a great price and so much fun to drive👍👌
Any particular reason for driving up the hill in the first test using only 2WD in the Duster (you did say it coud use 4WD)? That said, the Duster was only narrowly beaten into 2nd place. Also consider that the Duster was on 'All Season' road tyres whereas the Defender had off-road tyres. Hardly fair to the Duster.
Dacia have to be admired for making such a good all round capable car for the price. I would seriously consider owning one without a doubt. Those 1.5 DCI are a hardy little unit and will undoubtedly be the far more reliable and durable car in the long term.
i have owned Land rover Defender, Jeep Rubicon, Toyota Prado and my latest car is a 4X4 Duster. By far Duster is the best i have driven offroad. All cars had offroad setu. Duster is light and cheap. Less parts tend to be broken.
U did not drive off-road… rubicon, defender vs duster is not comparable… ducia is not an off road car omg omg
I love the fact thet the duster gives this expensive behemoth a run for it’s money!
Such a cheep car will actually be the best off-road choice to the “average” buyer.
The Dacia actually went everywhere the Land Rover did.
The truth is the Duster didn't fail to complete any of the challenges, had it been shod with off road tyres as the Defender had I'm sure it would of been even better in some of the tests ! plus you can buy FOUR Dusters for the price of one Defender 👍
Great job, Duster Engineers! Outstanding work!
Kudos to Defender's team too!
Duster is a nice car.
I have it, 1.33 tce, 150 hp. 😍
Looks very good, works perfect.
Cheers
You forgot to add in that the Defender would be in the garage for most of the time having all this tech repaired....... Got a Duster, best car I ever owned!
Love it, as a long time Military Off Road Driving Instructor (30+yrs) and equally long term Land Rover enthusiast, That little Dacia was excellent and I would be far more inclined to Off Road that than an 84k Land Rover, that said, I have and on the LR testing facility which is extreme.
Few Off road situations require the ability of the Land rover (which is the best.....with a knowledgeable driver).
Good boots on the Dacia and a knowledgeable driver would see the Dacia going almost anywhere for a keckmof a lot less money, including maint. and longevity.
To understand the off-road performance of the Duster better, you need to come to Romania and drive for a while on some back country roads. Besides off-road tires for the Duster, what both cars could have used is off-road drivers.
80% of the Defender's advantage was in the tiers.. with the same type of tyres the Duster would've done much better
Tyre’s
@@kramshiron tyres
@@kramshiron There is no apostrophe! Learn some grammar.
@@adrianoakes152 predicted txt....calm down.
@@CarpeDiem13x no
Can have three Dusters for the price of that Defender. Can use two for off roading, use one to pull the other out if needed, and keep one nice and clean for pottering about in on road.
The change left over could be used for a nice holiday - Simples 😊
I like how the approach angle of the Defender is 40 degrees one minute and 38 degrees the next. Great reporting.
Guys, you are perfectly aware that tires can make all the difference in the world. So why hadn't you changed them?
I’d have the Duster all day long over the Land Rover. All those electronics required for it to do well combined with their reliability track record means it will just be an expensive paper weight. Watch the TFL series where they had to go through 3 Defenders just to do their testing.
Yes, Duster is much more reliable
Love my 4x2 duster bifuel. It is saving me a fortune in fuel costs and by putting a set of all weather tyres will get me through anything I’d throw at it. Compared to this video anyway! Great value for money!
I have the same as you in Iron Blue. Bought mine in October 2021 and am very happy with it. Since the fuel price hike I have been even happier (86 cts/ litre for LPG here whilst Unleaded is easily more than €2 per litre!). Being in mountainous Auvergne I’ve gone for a twin set of wheels (Standard Continental Eco-Contacts for the Summer and reinforced Goodyear Ultra Grip + for the Winter. Bonne route!
It's unbelievable how a much cheaper car can do pretty much the same thing as the Defender
Not fall on Off ride no water crossing
Its unbelievable how much dust would the cheap duster eat if that was a proper hard core off riad course, but yea
Dacia does same things for year or two. While defender can keep doing it in a decade!
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Get some good off road tyres on the Dacia and it'll be uncomfortably close for the Defender. The Duster really is a cracking little car 💪.
Amazing !!! that helped me to cancel my DefenderX order and buy 2 Duster and still have some money left. I'll use that for the Holidays. Thanks for the informative video
8:41 4WD was not active, you can figure it out just by watching the rear wheels. Maybe the driver forgot to activate it and let the car on 2WD mode or maybe it was intentional.
Nicely pointed out indeed, running on 2wd uphill and with all-seasons road tires is a major handicap that proves that "the little engine that could" rises up to the challenge and accomplishes the task.
I would be interested to see how the Duster would perform with off road tires too.
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It's amazing how the £22,500 Dacia Duster is keeping up with the £84,000 Land Rover Defender!
It's because the Duster is so light. . .
There's a russian vid of a 2008 Grand Vitara humiliating the new defender and they were both on the same Avon AX7.
@@bigduphusaj162 no one wants to drive a grand vitara from 2008
@@invisisense5464 ummm anyone who wants to get to proper offroad destinations will man. Get real it's the new defender nobody wants for offroading it's abysmal reliability for a start. Toyota, Isuzu and Suzuki will always be sought after for proper off-road duty. Ohh and I bought one to tow my boat after my mate humiliated my Rangey in one. You need a reality check
@@1catchem yeah. No joke mate have you ever seen a newer 4x4 have to tow an older one out of a drama situation? Neither have I. All I see now is the older lighter 4x4s getting further down Launch ramp or further down the beach or further down the estuary to launch and retrieve. I drew the line when my rangey vogue needed towed out by vehicles that cost a few grand. Then I noticed a pattern in what they used as boat yard mules and rescue vehicles.. and the staff car park. Nothing but Japanese 4x4s not even new ones. Same as the mines in Australia they use kitted out Landcruisers for the heaviest duty work and Grand Vitaras for the lighter duty work and when they swapped the Grand Vitaras for Rangers around about 2014-1015 the Fords lasted about a 5th of the duty time as the Suzuki and Toyota. Brands like Land Rover and the usual German manufacturers just DO NOT take part In such difficult work, they wouldn't dare even be put forward for consideration, they make police cars and that's the full truth right there. New defender the only thing it got right was the ground clearance.. everything else is abysmal compared to a £3k 20yr old Japanese 4x4.
Another video with the Duster. I think Matt is beginning to like the car. What's not to like about it? Best buy I 've ever made.
As a duster owner, I think they're great 👍🏻
Stick some off-road tires under that Duster, and lift it a couple of inches… and believe me… you have one fine piece of off road kit!👍🏻💪🏻
There should have been one final test, 10 rounds of the entire course. The reliably unreliable landrover would have broken down and only cost a few thousand to repair but the duster would have just done it without any mechanical or electronic trickery melt downs. I am a lifelong landy fan but tbf if that duster was just better looking inside and out, i would be tempted.
The Duster is really a great car for its price, it deserves its high selling
That was a great challenge and a fantastic video, thank you - I do love car reviews for 'normal' cars - so much motor journalism is about cars the price of houses, nice to see a bit of reality creep in!
Yep. 👍
No skill required. Just £84,000. Nailed it in one sentence.
Defender is such an expensive car that I would never consider taking it into harsh terrain. Duster is a car that gives more than its price.
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The new Defender is the best Discovery that Land Rover have made so far :)
I'm sure the Defender would (and for the price, should) win but this test is like me wearing flip-flops in a race with Usain Bolt ! As all the comments say it's difficult to compare without like for like tyres but the Duster is very capable for the price. Well done Dacia 👍
Defender had off road tyres, the Duster had normal street tyres. Makes a huge difference. It also seems as if the driver of the Duster never had the 4x4 locked, only normal 4x4. I think there should be a rematch. AT Tyres for the Duster, 4x4 locked all the time. I suspect a different result just might happen...
The Duster has more in common with an old Defender than the new Defender. In fact the power and torque figures are within 10hp/nm of the TDI engines found in most Defenders from the 90s
Always love these off-road races
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Meiko992, hope Carwow uploaded a drag race between Lancer Rally Car and a Duster.
I'm surprised the Defender actually made its way to the course without engine trouble.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 right
It is funny when people who cannot afford a land rover talk about some reliability issues that are gone since 2012
22k miles on it now and still faultless.
@@RobertSisoevit’s funny that people who make your kind of comments never earned anything in their lives.
@@thecarfilmingsafetyguy22k miles lmao. That ain’t sht.
8:11 "no skills required, just 84K pounds" 🤣how true is that
An owner of a Defender had an air shock go bad and it was not covered under warranty. Price: $2,700 for the part - not including labor. The Duster is one you can grow to love while the Defender could be the one to despise as it becomes an expensive toy.
I'd buy a Duster (if it was available in Canada) and the money I saved from the Defender would be awesome! Plus I find the Duster looks a LOT nicer and modern compared to the Defender.
Another 2 points to the Dacia because it is more reliable than the Defender. It's cheaper and can do what a Defender can. That's another 2 points.
The Duster is impressive for his price. With decent steel under trays do protect it and a bit hight springs that car will do very well
Very impressed with the Duster - especially as its tyres were inferior to the Land Rover's for the conditions of the test. Heavy vehicles need more technology because they're far more likely to get stuck. It would be interesting to see a test, with the same tyres on both vehicles, on soft, boggy ground.
Duster with asphalt tyres.. and the rover with off-road tyres. Very fair.
The Duster won our hearts!
The Dacia Duster is worth buying! It's a good family SUV and a good off-roader! It's a insane SUV! I would love to buy a Dacia Duster!
I have one.
It is awesome.
And extremely economical.
the people who dont have the money to buy defender will say this words
@@vinitisback VSM CARS, the land rover still not even close for being reliable in some way.
@@juanvdheever79 what car?
@@purwantiallan5089 Dacia duster
Maybe would have been better (and fair) to have both cars same tires. On such a terrains, the tires can make huge differences.
I love the look of the Defender, and if money was no object, it would be my first choice. But the Duster is amazing value for money, and would suit all but the extreme off road enthusiasts, especially with off road tyres fitted. And an ideal school run car, as it is smaller on the road than a Defender.
And using less fuel too
All this with the old 115hp Dci engine, road tires and the platform of a Renault Clio. Must admit was just f*****g impressed.
Unfair competition in any ways. Let's see Duster with same off road tyres. Will win for sure.
Dacia still did good as the Defender
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Wouldn't be hard an old Grand Vitara smashes new Defender offroad with the same tyres.
It's because the Duster is so light. Safety issues in a crash. . .
It did nowhere near as good as the defender. Are you blind or something?
@@Alf.B don't you know the rules of the challenge?
@@Grandeception there are no rules . The Dacia was given extra points out of sympathy, otherwise it would have been 7 and 11 meaning the defender battered the shitty dacia
When you go off road especially on that kind of terrain speeding up is pointless and irrelevant!
The Duster is the winner for me,
It does pretty much everything without a fuss, and if it had proper off road tyres it would have been more impressive!
How about doing a repair comparison. How long each vehicle spends in the dealers over the next 3 years followed by cost of repairs out of warranty. Pretty much a foregone conclusion that the duster would win that hands down, more reliable and cheaper to fix, which from past history isn't very often, unlike the land rover which spends its life in the dealers/workshop.
Loved it you just sold the duster 100%
There was a remarkable difference between the tires. I think a Duster with better profiled tires coul beat the Defender.
Love the way you put expensive vs cheap car challenges
Well done @carwow
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Hisham80, this drag race always 100 percent epic.
The Duster did remarkably well, and almost certainly the more reliable vehicle.
Not much effort needed😂
It would be nice to see the Defender vs Discovery vs Range Rover Sport in this course and see which is the best as they could all be used for off road & daily basis.
Wow... soon you will get to be an experienced Duster driver and discover the ESP OFF function/button to avoid loosing engine power ;) - also now imagine an upgraded Duster :)
I think I fell in love with the duster a little bit during this video! What a little beast for the price.
Consider the Defender to be an investment in perpetual repair bills.
I have a 2019 duster. I am really happy with its comfort and performance (considering the price range) . Only complaint is that 2 of its ac vent tabs have come off. Any idea how to DIY replace it?