6x17 Photography: Composing Panoramic Photos

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
  • This is Part 4 of my 4-Part Series on 6x17 Photography.
    View Part 1 here: • 6x17 Photography: Basi...
    View Part 2 here: • 6x17 Photography: Came...
    View Part 3 here: • 6x17 Photography: Lens...
    CHAPTERS:
    - Intro: 00:00
    - The two words for 6x17 composition: 1:22
    - Expansiveness: 2:17
    - Confinement: 11:26
    - Other notes on composition: 16:16
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    VIDEO DESCRIPTION:
    Hey, fun fact: if you watch this entire 4-part series back-to-back it’s like watching a Chia Pet grow. What can I say? I’m growing my hair out and letting the beard fill in. Really embracing that “homeless guy” vibe.
    Anyway, onto photography. Yes, this is the final part of my 4-part video series all about 6x17 photography. This time we’re talking about the artistic stuff. You know, the intangible stuff, the completely subjective stuff, the stuff that has no definite right or wrong and is perpetually debatable. Those are the topics I like to tackle because there’s no chance any viewer will find fault in what I’m saying. No chance.
    So get ready, ladies and gentlemen, because I’m about to cure the entire world of artistic uncertainty. I have all the answers on what it takes to create a great panoramic composition. And I’m sharing all of those answers in this 21-minute video.
    I’m just playin’ guys. Just some 6x17 goofin’. Despite all the “rule of thirds” crop overlays and “golden ratios” and that swirly line drawing thing they overlay on famous artworks to show how the artist used math to create a perfect composition…despite all that, I know composition is subjective and it’s not an exact science. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, to each his own, etc etc. But I thought you might like to hear my take on it anyway.
    Enjoy!
    Website: www.nickcarverphoto.com
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  • @jonjanson8021
    @jonjanson8021 Рік тому +14

    I learned 6x17 composition as an army tank driver.

  • @sjmheron
    @sjmheron Рік тому +4

    The majestic hair-wobble makes this video endlessly re-watchable. Thank you!

  • @krakencoffeeroasters3727
    @krakencoffeeroasters3727 13 днів тому

    I live on the Great Plains, in the Platte River Valley, on the edge of the Nebraska Sandhills. My home landscape cries out for 6x17 composition.

  • @ChrisHunt4497
    @ChrisHunt4497 Рік тому +15

    Another masterclass in composition from Nick. I am only a humble digital photographer but I have learnt more from Nick than anyone else on You Tube. Wonderful. Thanks Nick. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton Рік тому +6

    God I would coat my wall with prints of your your dusk and dawn images

    • @jaykickliter
      @jaykickliter Рік тому +2

      I’m sure if the price is right the flight’s tonight.

    • @mikesmith-po8nd
      @mikesmith-po8nd Рік тому

      He does sell his work. His website is in the description.

  • @jaytolbert7538
    @jaytolbert7538 Рік тому +9

    Context, Context, Context! That's what 6x17 provides. Which is what your first example demonstrates perfectly. Your desert subjects, especially those that include a derelict structure, reproduce the atmosphere of the place and that moment. Always chasing that myself.

  • @2252269
    @2252269 Рік тому

    Probably I am not the only one who is addicted to NK's presentations. Köszönöm, that's my way to say thank you in Hungarian.

  • @krakencoffeeroasters3727
    @krakencoffeeroasters3727 13 днів тому

    It might be fun to “practice” 6x17 composition on our existing digital images by setting the selection tool to a 6x17 aspect ratio and selecting various crops, with an eye to compositional improvement.

  • @xuanwu8527
    @xuanwu8527 Рік тому +1

    I LOVE this channel, Nick. Your videos are always a treat to watch. Regarding the point about symmetry, I'd say that the panoramas are actually more symmetric than their cropped counterparts. The backgrounds of the panoramas are more balanced. At 9:20, the two prominent trees on the sides are almost the same distance from the store and of the same height. At 9:33, the grass, cacti, mountains, and sky feel equally weighted on the left and right. At 9:50, the trees on the left are balanced by the poles on the right. When the photos are cropped, the asymmetry stands out more, and you lose the balance. At 9:02, the silhouette of the tree on the left is not balanced by anything on the right. At 9:26, the mountain and the cacti are more heavily weighted to the right. At 9:45, the poles on the right that would have balanced the trees on the left are cropped out, so it feels less symmetric.

  • @JoshPricePlus
    @JoshPricePlus Рік тому

    King Carver. Thanks Nick.. I'll buy you a beer in person next time you're in the UK.

  • @gusatvoschiavon
    @gusatvoschiavon Рік тому +2

    We need to see those vertical panoramas on a wall, absolutely stunning

  • @oneeyedphotographer
    @oneeyedphotographer 4 місяці тому

    This was suggested to me by UA-cam.
    My preferred equipment at present is a Lumix S1R and Canon TS-E lenses.It's less flexible than a view camera, but it seems to be getting a bit heavy lately. I can stitch to get a wider view and the multiple images are coplanar so don't get that distortion. There are videos on straightening stitchups too, one I did looks a bit strange because I was too close.
    I saw someone complain about distortion with a 10mm ultrawide prime on 25mm, but in truth he too was too close. I have a 14-28 on my S1R, and a 7-14 for Lumix G9. The 14-28 has a flat face, if I want I can put filters on it, easily. My TS-E 17 and 7-14 are pregnant, I have to work around that bulge.

  • @jasongold6751
    @jasongold6751 Рік тому

    A great and imformative video. I did a panaorama on a beach, 6 frames on a Leica M3.Tripod and checking where to start and where to end! About 45mins later, now a race with setting sun. 6feet x 8 inches high! What i had slight curvature (the Earth). Your way better, way better. Also only one frame to contend in printing! * I used film, pre-digital. The Cactii the best! Train in desert 2nd. 3rd All the rest! Bravo.

  • @guillaumejousset9469
    @guillaumejousset9469 5 місяців тому

    Whaaaat a masterclass from you Nick, again, thanks a lot for your amazing work 🙌🤝.

  • @timryan894
    @timryan894 Рік тому +1

    The biggest advantage of panoramic 6x17 is that it gives the subject more context or story. Story is the life of still imagery

  • @DrRedive
    @DrRedive 4 місяці тому

    Um, Um... "6 x 17 Photography: Printing, mounting and framing panoramic photographs." There, I took care of the title for you. 🙂👋Amazing series Nick.

  • @randomsixty
    @randomsixty Рік тому

    Excellent video as always. Shout out to the bouffant.

  • @Seangalusha
    @Seangalusha 10 місяців тому

    Having gone to cal poly slo for journalism i find the Ksby image to be fascinating.
    I love how the billboard screams commercialization and an inherent need to be connected at all times which contrasts daily life in slo so much.
    Slo really is a bubble and it’s pretty out of isolated.
    So it’s hard to remember it’s even part of California sometimes, which makes this billboard perfectly ironic.

  • @ianbabcock5951
    @ianbabcock5951 Рік тому

    I'm inspired now to break out my 1/2 dark slides I made for 4x5 and 5x7, hardly ever used. ..thought I clicked on Mat Marrash's Film Fridays at first with the big top-do :)

  • @mikearmstrong7956
    @mikearmstrong7956 Рік тому

    6 x 17 Photography is something a lot of people don't put much attention on. I like it. It really does work . A nice perspective! Cool

  • @user-oy3mc2pi7f
    @user-oy3mc2pi7f Місяць тому

    what a great presentation on composition !!

  • @sethrobinson6998
    @sethrobinson6998 Рік тому +1

    Speaking of vertical panos Josef Koudelka has some of the best I’ve seen in his book Chaos

    • @jaytolbert7538
      @jaytolbert7538 Рік тому

      Had to look him up. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes Рік тому +16

    Amazing collection of your work throughout this video! Your compositions really do connect and tell a story. This was also kind of a walk down memory lane given how many of these were featured in a past video highlighting how you scouted and made the photos. I just noticed that you hit 100,000 subscribers as well! Maybe that happened a while ago, but regardless, congratulations, Nick!

  • @melvyndavid
    @melvyndavid Рік тому

    Excellent video again much of what you teach comes very naturally when i take images but you go much further and make it clear why much wider is better than just a bit wider and why the hight is is less important as hight is better implied than seen. thanks again

  • @magnusa.5599
    @magnusa.5599 Рік тому

    i love the aspect of vertical confinement! gonna focus more on the details rather than the obvious horizon shot. thanks nick, you‘re the man.

  • @key2adventure
    @key2adventure 7 місяців тому

    One of my best panoramas (not made as a 6x17) is the sunset on Mount Everest and the sourrounding mountains, it cant get more “mountaineous” than that - at least not on mother Earth

  • @forgottenamericana
    @forgottenamericana Рік тому

    Pay attention kiddos.....Professor Carver is in the house..... Great info! Thank you Nick!

  • @cmichaelhaugh8517
    @cmichaelhaugh8517 Рік тому

    One of those great instructional pieces that organize and make sense of what we suspected at the gut level. Now I have to go back and see the other three.

  • @bryanswisshelm941
    @bryanswisshelm941 Рік тому

    “Tobacco pipe and ascoty about it”😂 I’m definitely stealing that line. I always look forward to your videos! I’m going to try incorporating some of there concepts.

  • @chromagraphphotoart
    @chromagraphphotoart Рік тому

    Alright Nick, you've convinced me. My next camera purchase WILL be a 6x17, for which Angus Noble of Noble cameras will no doubt be relieved as he has been pestering me for a while to purchase one of his fine cameras. However, I am concerned about one thing... Which is the height of your quiff that is about to escape the confinement of my monitor. This could result in me purchasing a computer monitor with movements. As you are no doubt aware, this may be expensive, so I am relying on you to mitigate the costs...😉

  • @dafyddwhyles8169
    @dafyddwhyles8169 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic videos by Nick. We are completely addicted and can't wait for new videos coming out. Fantastic knowledge and eager to share it. A true gentleman!!

  • @NoorKarzon
    @NoorKarzon Рік тому

    Thank you for providing me a proof - your video - so I can prove to my community that I'm not insane. I have a personal project where it's only about panoramas using technical cameras. None of my friends were convinced about the idea thinking it's meh. Although I did mention most of the points you mentioned in your video, but you did more than that. And for that, I thank you ❤

  • @curiousgeorge684
    @curiousgeorge684 Рік тому

    Wonderful composition information, It went well with a nice bourbon.

  • @sneakingelephant
    @sneakingelephant Рік тому +1

    I don't have a 6x17 camera but I started my first roll of 35mm on a Pentax 67(using the panoramic conversion kit). Going to try applying the concepts you taught here.

  • @brianmckeever5280
    @brianmckeever5280 Рік тому

    Well done sir, thanks! I don't do 6x17, but I love panos!

  • @MilesforMoments
    @MilesforMoments Рік тому +3

    A great way to implement this on digital is with tilt-shift lenses. Three shifted shots stitched together gives me a ~70mpx image that has given me some of my favorite shots in the past two years. It just requires a little more visualization since you cant see the overall image until you process it.

    • @c1m1w
      @c1m1w Рік тому

      I use either a shift lens or a gigapan motorised head; visualisation is critical. For the gigapan, you need to shoot for the resolution you want at the edges - the perspective projection will stretch the edges a lot!

  • @kirstymcleod6647
    @kirstymcleod6647 Рік тому

    have to say, am loving your videos (although I also have to admit to being digital)... found you through the "Tethered" chat you had with Thomas Heaton - and so glad i did! Love your images 😊( and the content)... thank you!

  • @johnmay1788
    @johnmay1788 Рік тому

    Very nice discussion of a complex topic.

  • @Seeker_of_F1r3
    @Seeker_of_F1r3 Рік тому +3

    I have a humble suggestion, if I may: I'd watch the heck out of you giving a breakdown (both artistic and technical) of your images. My favorite image out of all your work I've seen is the cactus-scape at 3:00 and I always wonder about the mental and technical aspects behind such a superb image. The cactus image at 9:31 also looks like a great image for commentary because I can only imagine the process of getting both the foreground and background in focus on such a large format. Cheers and thanks for helping me and many others start of the weekend right!

  • @peterturner1052
    @peterturner1052 Рік тому

    I've never shot film in my life, yet I think this is possibly my favourite youtube channel. I just love how you see the world and then show us with such a calm and well reasoned thought process. Great video.

  • @johntazbaz1121
    @johntazbaz1121 Рік тому

    Nick, I’m getting addicted to your videos and work. Fantastic images with the 6x17!

  • @ThomasParis
    @ThomasParis Рік тому

    Thanks for another great one! I find it fascinating how much I like your videos even though I don't use film and my compositions are mostly square(-ish). But your points in this one made so much sense! And I feel they might be helpful to me, even though I'm not planning on composing in 6x17.

  • @ducgerard2361
    @ducgerard2361 Рік тому

    A great lesson of composition!

  • @csd128
    @csd128 Рік тому +1

    Nick, thanks for generously sharing your knowledge. I really enjoy your compositions and especially appreciate how you handle the edges of your frame. When my eye gets to the edge, I'm always drawn back in, but it's never forced. The subject is interesting enough that I want to remain in the scene you have captured.

  • @ian7379
    @ian7379 Рік тому

    Great videos on 6x17, one of my favorite formats.

  • @LikeWeDidOutdoors
    @LikeWeDidOutdoors Рік тому

    14 minutes, the big tree, amazing shot! I've tried to fit the height in on similar circumstances - you backed up and it didn't work as well. I tested out taking a second panorama of a scene, higher up and joining the 2 panos as a top and bottom, showing the whole size of the massive object - still don't work as well as leaving it chopped off into the unknowing! I found it to be like yours, the confinement was what did it, your head can imagine the tree far bigger. I didn't know the words for it, now I can consider it properly in future, so thanks!

  • @tonygreenwoodN10
    @tonygreenwoodN10 Рік тому +1

    What a great video! And you had me laughing out loud as you mimicked someone looking at wide vista, slowing moving their head left to right looking at the horizontal axis and then quickly nodding up and down at the vertical axis. Really good stuff, thank you!

  • @whafrog
    @whafrog Рік тому

    Brilliant discussion, well presented. I love taking panos, but have to do the multi-shot way...not a lot of pixels left if it's a single shot.

  • @ryanbhangdia
    @ryanbhangdia Рік тому

    love this commentary, my favorite of the series!

  • @stephenhoran4897
    @stephenhoran4897 Рік тому +5

    Good to see you doing a few more videos Nick. I don't do film or pano's but good to hear about techniques and the like used as can try and apply the thought and theory to my own workflow.

  • @timfarr369
    @timfarr369 Рік тому

    Brillant. Incredible “framing” of how to communicate through the format. In particular a defined structure that can be used consistently to consider and approach a somewhat intimidating format.

  • @davidtracy223
    @davidtracy223 Рік тому

    Looking forward to your vertical 6x17 compositions

  • @peter-robinson
    @peter-robinson Рік тому

    Excellent series, thanks Nick. Your clear definitions and explanations have clarified why I love 6x17 so much.

  • @andreaspidde9694
    @andreaspidde9694 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, great explanation and photographs!

  • @jimmynordstromphotography
    @jimmynordstromphotography Рік тому +1

    Friday and a Nick Carver video, can't be much better. Keep up the good work!

  • @JakeAlletson
    @JakeAlletson Рік тому

    Wow! That is one of the very best photography instructions I have ever seen. And it doesn't hurt that the presentation is so "informal" (like a chat with a long time friend) but sharp. I missed the first 3 lessons but will certainly go back to them.

  • @terrybehm3835
    @terrybehm3835 Рік тому

    Excellent presentation! Your next assignment, should you choose to accept it, is a discussion of the square format. 😊

  • @Black_Jesus3005
    @Black_Jesus3005 Рік тому

    Thanks Nick.

  • @caulenspencer1157
    @caulenspencer1157 Рік тому

    Please stay with such regular uploads!

  • @JoaoRiveres
    @JoaoRiveres Рік тому

    Amazing masterclass.

  • @bakr2508
    @bakr2508 Рік тому

    Great one nick! There should be another part regarding printing 6x17 frames in detail. Thanks a lot

  • @ageary
    @ageary Рік тому +1

    The 6x17 ratio is perfect in my eyes and I use it to shoot cityscapes.

  • @MrEszet
    @MrEszet Рік тому

    Awesome content! Thank you, Nick!

  • @Jwats96
    @Jwats96 Рік тому +5

    Another great one. Love your 6x17 work, would love to get into it down the line

  • @chuckhaaser884
    @chuckhaaser884 Рік тому

    Well done Nick!

  • @wcwendychapman
    @wcwendychapman Рік тому

    Excellent series.

  • @josephschimmer302
    @josephschimmer302 Рік тому

    It‘s not only a great video in itself, condensing your knowledge on the topic. It‘s a great way to revisit all your excellent on location videos. To me this 3:1/6:17/24:65 aspect ratio is so appealing because it makes you read and discover a picture. Unlike more compact ratios I can’t see these pictures as a whole.

  • @chiragpradhan
    @chiragpradhan Рік тому

    Thank you for such great content. It must take a lot of effort to produce such quality videos.

  • @jmiller1819
    @jmiller1819 Рік тому +4

    What a great way to start the day! This entire series has been great and one I will come back and watch a few more times I'm sure.

  • @AlejandroHiraldo
    @AlejandroHiraldo Рік тому

    Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I love this channel.

  • @draughonc
    @draughonc Рік тому

    Nick, always a great lesson.

  • @jeremygarretson5482
    @jeremygarretson5482 Рік тому +3

    Thanks Nick. Great video about panoramic photography. I'm new to 4x5, but have shot digitally for a long long time. One of my favorite features about the GFX 100s is the 65x24 option. It makes such a difference when pre-visualizing a shot. I'm debating getting a 6x17 back from my TZ45.

    • @boristahmasian9604
      @boristahmasian9604 Рік тому

      Hi Jeremy, have you printed GFX 65x24 files? If so, how big of a print can you get out of it? I know it is relative but I am talking about gallery quality prints. Thanks.

  • @odukar2315
    @odukar2315 Рік тому

    Great insights in 6x17!

  • @robertpopper9001
    @robertpopper9001 Рік тому

    Super thank you ! Have a nice week end

  • @jungerhansmann6608
    @jungerhansmann6608 Рік тому

    Now please do 4x5 or an overall full course on composition!

  • @ducgerard2361
    @ducgerard2361 Рік тому

    The best channel about panoramic
    Photos. You are great.

  • @clementaanestad3397
    @clementaanestad3397 Рік тому

    Great job x 4! Well done.

  • @Luigi13
    @Luigi13 Рік тому

    I enjoyed the video and learned a few things I could use in my panoramic images. 🤔🤔

  • @senior_ranger
    @senior_ranger Рік тому

    Outstanding. Thanks.

  • @highlander200107
    @highlander200107 Рік тому

    Great series Nick!

  • @Mecholable
    @Mecholable Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing all that good information

  • @amaitra
    @amaitra Рік тому

    Really nice pictures of not so "glamorous" subjects! Bringing out the best in them! Great video.

  • @slothsarecool
    @slothsarecool Рік тому

    Beautiful images!

  • @timbradburn3967
    @timbradburn3967 Рік тому

    Gorgeous. Compelling as always Nick. Thanks for putting words to why I enjoy your photography.

  • @geoffmphotography9444
    @geoffmphotography9444 Рік тому

    So very informative and helpful

  • @Renomartisan
    @Renomartisan 8 місяців тому

    Loooveeee it!

  • @bradleyverde
    @bradleyverde Рік тому

    'Really enjoyed the 6x17 series. Thanks, Nick.

  • @flam3srock
    @flam3srock Рік тому

    keep the videos coming!

  • @julianpaxton5750
    @julianpaxton5750 Рік тому

    Thanks Nick. Your videos are consistently good. This one is a ripper!

  • @darrelltheriault5793
    @darrelltheriault5793 Рік тому

    Great video, thanks very much.

  • @alfredbass
    @alfredbass Рік тому

    superb! as always mr. Nick. 🤘😎

  • @thomastaylor9237
    @thomastaylor9237 Рік тому

    Great series, terrific channel and your online classes are outstanding.

  • @jacobmunkhammar3775
    @jacobmunkhammar3775 Рік тому

    Inspirational!

  • @sebastiantrandafir5607
    @sebastiantrandafir5607 Рік тому

    Very cool, a great series for 6x17, with all the details you need. Thank you for this! Cheers, Seb

  • @juanitakelly3082
    @juanitakelly3082 Рік тому

    Videos on composition are my absolute favorite. Thanks!

  • @JimNorman-op1cv
    @JimNorman-op1cv Рік тому

    An outstanding wrap to your 6x17 format series.

  • @Sprengstoff
    @Sprengstoff Рік тому +4

    Great series, thank you very much Sensei! Maybe, one day i get my hands on a 6x17 camera - It is just such a cool format! Have yourself a cold beer my good man, cheers!

    • @jaytolbert7538
      @jaytolbert7538 Рік тому +2

      Sensei. Most appropriate title for Nick!

  • @mikskinner6431
    @mikskinner6431 Рік тому

    You've made me understand panoramas! Thanks. Think I'll go and give it a go now.

  • @dominey
    @dominey Рік тому

    Wonderful video Nick. Really enjoyed this. Congrats on 100 subs! 👊

  • @curiouslizard
    @curiouslizard Рік тому

    Fantastic content, great teacher, beautiful intentional photographs!! Your work speaks volumes.