The Tactical Role Of Different Inverted Fullbacks & Why Cancelo Couldn't Replace Zinchenko
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- We are beyond the era of just "Inverted Fullbacks" but what are the different types?
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One thing that allows Zinchenko to do what he does at Arsenal is Gabriel covering behind him, effectively playing as both a LB and CB.
Not just him. Arsenal transits into 3 fullbacks with White responsible to help more in center while Gabriel covers left zone
One point you need to add is that Arsenal and Man City dominate games unlike ManU. More oftenly teams park the bus against Arsenal & Man City leaving only one person upfront. Why do you need four defenders when the opponent only has one person upfront?
@@alexanderomucheyi1857 depends on how their hold up play and aerial abilities are. Saliba for example is a great defender but his aerial capabilities are average, that's why against both Everton (away) and Brentford DCL and Toney would constantly backup on him and receive the long balls, holding it until their team mates rushed up the pitch, catching Arsenal on the counter. Crystal Palace tried a couple of times but Rob Holding would just dominate in air and Gabriel is decent in air, so they had no long ball outlet.
@@aes1373 You will notice for all their aerial prowess, Brentford only scored one offfside goal and Everton needed a corner to score. As good as Ivan Toney hold up play is, he is always isolated and by the time his teammates come to support Arsenal would have already recovered.
If Arsenal plays teams that attack en masse like Bayern or Liverpool of yesteryears, Zinchenko will have to go back to his natural leftback position.
Man City have been doing this for years with walker stones n Dias doing this
Zinchenko is a weird one at Arsenal, that guy's touch maps are crazy he's playing almost everywhere and an underrated skill of his is that on his feet he's quite a good defender, but I agree that Zinchenko is more of a midfield inverter, whereas Cancelo is more of a wing inverter
Zinchenko is a loose cannon and he can’t help the team to defend. 🥲 I am just one of the guys who can never understand his quality
If you play the game Football Manager, you will know that in the Inverted Wingback Role, it divides into 3 duty, IWB-at, IWB-su, IWB-de, so while they are all inverted wingback, you can tweak them and let them tuck into in different spaces to accommodate your tactic systems (whether you want him to go further up the half space, whether you want him to tuck into midfield to support, or you want him to tuck inside into defence to form 3 cb), just like how this video suggests, great video btw!
U don’t have to play fm to know that. Even before I watched the vid I knew that the inverted full back has 3 roles either inverting into the defence like Walker and Ben white or into the midfield like zinchenko or into the half spaces like Trent or cancelo that’s the only way u can use an inverted full abvk
@@jetfitness7975 Well I didn''t said that you have to play FM to know that, I just explain how to implemented it in FM if people are interested.
@@anson23625I understand the point you were driving at and yes Fm was where I understood the role even deeper
@@jetfitness7975 no one asked 🙄
Insightful..
Rico Lewis and Ivan Fresneda are the new generations of truly inverted fullbacks, others started in other roles and eventually moved into that role.
Arteta is desperate to buy Ivan fresneda aswell bro wants two inverted fullbacks
Ivan fresneda would be a great addition to arsenal. Cant wait for the sexy artetaball with new signings next season
Timber is also like this, but his injury mean we might need to get fresneda.
What’s common among most of these players?! Pep, Pep Guardiola. Man has influenced so much of modern football. Legend 🙌🏾
Yes and no because some of these tactics have been around for 100’s of years
I really like Cancelo…that guy plays like a winger and I love it. He’s got the flair and everything if u allow him the free role
He was excellent in Portugal's game vs Liechtenstein.
@@manwhoasked5942 fr man…I watched that game instead of the England one. And the way the guy was taking on players, creating chances and stuff was amazing to watch
@@manwhoasked5942 yeah but I mean it was Liechtenstein
Very good in terms of attacking, but poor when it comes to defending. That's why he was dropped by Pep in so many games. Imo he's almost as bad at defending as Trent. The only reason he isn't criticised so much is because City has other players cover for him unlike Trent in recent seasons (In previous seasons Fabinho dropped into the space he left when attacking).
@@akwilson1676 I mean Yh cus he very attack minded and players like him u don’t even have to play him lb or rb as u said he’s not great at defending so he can’t fit in at rm or even rw… hopefully Bayern sign him on a permanent or if not Madrid sign him or something
The defensive IWB you described is how I expected it to play out in Football manager but it's not so far.
no nonsense full back ir just full back with personalized instructions is how ud have what u want
@@JoseMiguel-fl5oi nope. You lack control with NCB. The closest is FB on Def and told to sit narrow. FB on su works too if your player has stay back at all time PPM.
I like the way you break it simple like *The defensive inverted FB & *The Controller FB & *The attacking FB
Napoli's Di Lorenzo deserves a mention here. Not strictly an inverted fullback, as he spends fair amount of time on the touchline, but he's capable of playing all the inverted roles to a fairly high degree.
Tucking into a back three when Napoli's struggling to play out of the back - something he's comfortable with as he's played a centreback fair few times in his career. Sometimes tucking into midfield, usually when Anguissa is really high up or when the ball is on the opposite flank to help switch the ball quicker. Finally, his trademark, the underlapping runs into the box, from which he can score and assist.
Comparing his stats to other players in the video, he's just at the tail end in progression numbers (7.03 progressive passes/90, due to low amount of touches/90 at ~70 when others are around 80-90). He's only beaten by Trent in Shot Creating Actions (3.24) and by Cancelo in Touches in Att. Pen. Area (2.42), and again only beaten by Cancelo in G+A in League and Europe (3G+6A). All of this which being really solid defensively, much better than Trent, Zinchenko or Cancelo, and being on the ball less than all the others.
Great video! About Zinchenko, I feel like he does perform as more of a controller when Arsenal are in control of the game, but he definitely becomes an attacker when they need a goal. In fact, movements that you attributed to the attacker role are what allowed The Gunners to clutch several last-minute wins this season.
Incredible content. So clear and concise, great presentational structure, top analysis and nice polished visuals
This channel is fantastic. In-depth explanation with examples. Not just the surface.
I would like to see more in-game examples of these plays happening, but guess copyright is an issue.
Looking forward to your video about different roles of center forward position. It would be very exciting.
You should make a video about what went wrong for Julien naglesman at Bayern Munich tactically and transfer wise
He only lost 3 games in the league so it was harsh. Probably more politics than anything else
He did nothing wrong tactically.
He kinda got the same exit as pellegrini at madrid, a "better"/proven manager was available so they hired him before someone beat them to it
nothing went wrong, bayern board are just dumb. look at tuchel now
I just love this tactical board. I also like the other one but this is the one i would prefer
Excellent explanation and analysis 👏🏼.
Loved this video, keep up with the good work!
More than informative. Perfect video, explanation and pacing.
great content like always 👏👏👏
Love this version of videos
Another excellent piece 👌
Very good explanation !!!!
Outstanding presentation.
Great analysis 🔥everything now makes sense
Lovely video🙏🏾
Great stuff ❤
Great video, please a video on how tuchel will adopt his tactics into Bayern . I wonder how they are gonna play maybe he uses kimmich as a Controlling inverted wing back and Jamal alongside Goretzka in his 3-4-3 system?
Great analysis
I’d love to see more of these kinds of videos
Love your channel
Lovely stuff!
Adding these to my FM saves
Thank you for this explanation
Superb, thanks
Amazing job
Brilliant video.
Good analysis
Need that Thomas tuchul Bayern tactics video bro !
Inverted fullbacks are one of my favorite tactics, if we can call them that.
Inverted, deep-lying, playmaking...
@@kimemia_maina controllers
Love the new intro
This is beautiful analysis
Can you do a video on De Zerbi's Brighton tactics
Do you think Alphonso Davies is molding a new style of fullback where speed and passing is better than defending? Not that Davies hasn't developed incredible defensive instincts, but his speed allows Bayern to have an extra attacker (that is developing into an impressive passer), who has the ability to recover defensively from an extremely advanced position. He's just as much a wingback as a fullback purely due to his speed.
if you are an incredibly dominant team like bayern maybe you can get away with it
he's not fb or ifb he's more to modern wing back
I'd say he will be an evolution of Kyle Walker. Better ball control, similar speed, similar physical traits (Davies is taller, actually, but as he fills out his frame with age he'll perhaps move to a CB role like Walker).
Hi brilliant analysis! May I know what software you use for the tactical/formation board with animations please?
Amazing insight as always mate! Any chance we'll be seeing the evolution of Harry Kane's game anytime soon? (Think this is the best time for this vid with all the attention on him)
Hadn't even thought about that but that's a great idea!
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wow, very informative
I love how Pep "chop and changes" himself out of the Champions League season after season - even going back to his time at Barcelona, where he used to do wacky things, like chase after another away goal against Inter at the San Siro in 2010 when he could have played defensive passing football with the most capable passing team ever assembled. Just a tinkerman through and through.
Keep that same energy when City win their first CL under Pep in a week's time.
@@thuo1000 Hasn't happened yet, has it. And the exact reason City reached the final this year is because he didn't tinker much this season: he hasn't had this settled a first team lineup since Barcelona 2010/11.
You should do an analysis video on Griezmann! The man plays almost every position for France and Atletico
😂 Right now as far as it's midfield and attack, Griezmann plays em all
will you be doing a video on how tuchel will setup Bayern?
Der Klassiker on April 1st!
Sergi Roberto has certainly played all this inverted fullbacks role, although not to perfection.
Well Roberto imo is one of those players that just never peaked due to many reasons but not him . Great vision & ethic but trust & Barcelona on down fall just made him look worse.
nice vid
perfectly summed
A video on salary cap and how it is killing Spanish clubs and it’s outcomes on other leagues !!
Can we keep the old tactical board for analysis? For some reason it just makes it easier to understand what happened in the match
Personally feel it's a bit rudimentary to just label someone like Ben White as a "defensive inverted FB" considering all the overlapping work he does with Saka and Odegaard. Tomiyasu may fit this role better if you're looking at Arsenal particularly
Can you please do the different roles for Wingers or Midfielders
Bro can u break down England Vs Italy? The game was a tactical madness, both half’s were completely different
Very important one, although there were still fullbacks very important withoutbeing inverted like tripper and estupinian
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Dani alves is one of the most players i like . He played very well at the inverted fullback role so he shows attacking and defensing performance all the match like what he did with messi busquets....
Now it's already changed, as Stones steps up from cb to play that role. Football moves fast!
More football fans need to watch this tactical role breakdown
Such an informative video. Do you think that Camavinga can be a good controlling inverted fullback? He looks like he has all the qualities to play that role as he tucks in alongside Tchouameni.
Ancelotti is an old school coach. None of his fullbacks really inverted in the CM.
However, Canavinga sometimes tends to move up in the half spcae when he plays as a Fullback.
@@SenCrypto Hopefully, this would be his last season at the club, it's high time Real Madrid got a more tactical coach who give them an identity and give a chance to the youngesters instead of relying on the same old guard.
The thing I don’t understand is city played well last season with Cancelo and Walker as there fullbacks but it didn’t work this season. Hence causing the change to incorporate Rico Lewis. But Zinchenko wasn’t a starter for them last season anyway so why was Cancelo being too attacking for them a problem now, is it because of Haaland not dropping deep or something?
Jorge Jesus uses Lincoln Henrique and Ferdi Kadioglu as controlling iwb's at Fenerbahce. Kadioglu who can play almost anywhere on the pitch, can be a great mid-term project for a top european club and Lincoln was desired by Porto last summer, sadly suffered a torn acl against Sevilla. Two players that should have eyes on them imo.
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Y’all gotta talk about Alejandro Balde. Dude is blowing up as we speak. Hype is real!
Upload about new pep strategy with stons
this is the best version of fullbacks in the history special thanks to Pep Guardiola on make the world believe that it can work
I love football tactics
Watching this kind of videos and others tactical analysis from the likes of De Zerbi, Potter and Arteta I keep wondering why Real Madrid is still such an ''old minded'' club tactically. Players like Nacho could be a great Defensive Inverted FB and Alaba or Camavinga would fit into the Controller/playmaker FB, but they keep stitching them to the lines like classic fullbacks.
Dude that's because they probably have the greatest central midfield trio in the world.
@@balazskosa2487 When Xavi, Busquets and Iniesta played for Barcelona they were the best, but they still had tactical instructions and different positioning depending on the game.
Camavinga playing as a LB in the absence of Mendy, Valverde playing as a RB, RW, Vazquez playing as a RB, using Rudiger as a LB, I'd say the old man at Madrid has shown his tactical flexibility, just that as Ancelotti himself has stated, with me paraphrasing a bit: He will provide them defensive structure and offer free reigns for the attackers to develop an understanding. There's nothing he can teach Benzema to develop him at this point in his career.
Just last night Alaba moved into the advanced LB role after Rudiger came in to replace the LB Camavinga. When Nacho plays, Carvajal bombs forward, so they still have 3 at the back for security, whereas yesterday you saw Madrid get countered early when Cama was in the half space and the 2 CBs were caught lacking by Felix.
The lb or rb are very important,
Cause they were massievly underused. Indvidualy they were used, but in terms of position being used was missing.
Cus defending when losing ball should be like a whole team think and lines of player thing.
And not like sit ready thing.
It is a risky thing but 1 that should have taken care of decades ago.
My guy said there’s a lot of overlap at 6:16 😂
5:18, if you play efootball you know that fullback finishers play like this. They dominate the half spaces and can even be in CAM positions.
there is more like overlap fullback like robertson,chilwell,james,marcos alonso not inverted
Before watching this video I didn't understand why Arteta doesn't play Tierney. Now I understand Zinchenko overloads the midfield while Tierney overloads the wing. And Arteta wants an extra midfielder not an extra winger.
yeah because Tierney is classic fb who's not good with the ball, that's why when he replace zinchenko sometimes he looks lost in the midfield area, a second later you will see him in the corner of the pitch and Martinelli will go more in the middle...
Luke Shaw belongs to the attacking inverter group. He's one of the best on his day.
he has same role as walker who inverted into centre back m
Please upload Messi's video of Argentina tactical evolution
I actually hate the term "football has evolved". I'm not against the idea, and in many things of course it has, but often times we just tend to look at what the best teams in the world are doing and proclaim that everything else is outdated.
For example, in the beginning of the video you say fullbacks used to sit deep and manage counterattacks but that has changed, then you talk about Kyle Walker doing exactly that.
Also, what's really interesting is that City's shape that transforms into 3 CBs and 2 pivots looks like any 3-4-3 double pivot, for example - Mourinho's Roma - a manager often falsely described as outdated. It's just that instead of an inverted fullback going pivot - he just has 2 pivots in Cristante and Matic who are excellent at controlling spaces and breaking lines.
Also going back I doubt that players like Roberto Carlos, or more recently Marcelo were just limited to up and down fullback roles, considering their technicality.
But don't get me wrong, I don't mean to sound patronizing, your videos are 97% gold and I enjoyed this one as well. Keep up the great work!
He uses a very british perspective. Attacking fullbacks existed since the late 1940s. And inverted fullbacks existed since Paul Breitner pioneered the role at Bayern in the 70s.
It's not how it looks on paper (the 3-2 structure at the back). It's the versatility between having or not having the ball.
Mourinho plays with 3-2 all the time, but he surely won't have one of the dms step back into fullback areas when defending. This is something that Pep popularised and for which he's often called an innovator. It is innovative, to use a 3-2 structure on buildup then going back to 4-1 in defense.
@@Rocky-yg3on That stuff with the DM droping he took from Bielsa. And it's not a new idea either. When teams were playing the 2-3-5 formation a.k.a. the pyramid, it was the duty of the central half-back to drop between the center backs.
@@MichaelAMVM sure, but it's not the same. Central half back dropping between center backs has been done since the dawn of time, but if was usually to help ball progression on build-up phase. In this case, the dropping-back happens in the opposite way, where the half back drops in the side for the sake of forming a 4 men line in defensive phase.
Also, while other coaches such as Bielsa or even Cruyff might have used such resource, Pep is the one famous for using it consistently and achieving the best results. It is innovative in the way it stops becoming a niche/1 coach-tactic to become a relatively popular strategy specially amongst big clubs.
I know the video was made earlier, but look at John stones now. Thats a whole new role😂
Remember mentioning this to a friend that the experiment to invert Walker as a controller failed miserably 🤭
Rico Lewis did well against the lesser teams, it was against the big teams with better forwards where he struggled.
And now Stones is playing the role
We want analysis for Ralf's Austria tactics
i really enjoyed this video but calling Ben White limited on the ball is almost an insult
There is a Manager between that glued Crujff and Pep Guardiola tactics. Sir Alex Ferguson.
I guess Kounde in IWB-de at Barca and Balde as WB-at.
what is the difference between 2-3 build up and 3-2 build up?
Damn and i thought Cancelo was probably the only inverted fullback. It may just be because I don't have much football knowledge but its the 1st time I heard about "inverted fullback" when pep started using Cancelo as one.
The team with the best fully backs always do well
This is a Lewis Cole appreciation video 😂
can you do a video on how to exploit the the inverted fullback formation? tactically i hardly see them being “outplayed”. i know spurs are good at beating man city but they’ve been destroyed by arsenal with this inverted fullback system. how do you truly outplay them?
Yeah I'm interested in that too. Even in games Arsenal were poor in seemed to be because of Zinchenko's individual defensive weakness rather than a tactical issue with the inversion itself.
Need to change it to inverted CB! Johnny, Johnny Stones
What Type of Joshua Kimmich in this video? Is he Controlling inverted fullback or attacking Inverted Fullback?
Can you please do the video of what destroyed the Italian football
I'm not a city fan, so does anyone know which game bernardo played lb? Curious to see the starting xi
Aston Villa and Arsenal in back to back games
With the way things are going all the 11 players in the pitch might be attackers in the future 😂
Arteta once said Pep calls himself the most defensive manager in history. The trick is, Pep’s revolution of the game took the phrase “attack is the best form of defence” to a whole new level. Just one look at the evolutions his teams have progressively undergone across the leagues, and you’ll see that Pep’s vision to achieve consistent multiphasic perfection, but dictated of course by the players he has at his disposal. From the super technical 2nd and 3rd phase monsters at Barca, to pretty much inventing the inverted full backs at Bayern, and now at City the culmination of everything he’s done so far, and there’s just technical brilliance from goalie to striker. You’re not wrong, Pep seeks total control in all phases at all times, and if a team chuck full of attackers gets him that, it very well could just do the trick for him😂
I get the point about Zinchenko but he wasnt necessarily a nailed on starter, Cancelo even played ahead of him there despite being a natural RB.
Now John Stones is being the controller
Would really appreciate more of these generic tactical videos rather than analysis of specific matches
Brian clough used Inverted full backs gary Charles and Stuart pearce in 90s