That was Asriel. Just notice how Flowey's voice is very high pitched and is in an E note and Asriel's is a mid high voice that's in one of the black keys, in which I believe is the key in between G and A. Asriel is a pacifist too, so it could give Asriel/Flowey a reason to say that.
I think this is because in the neutral run Flowey knows you can and probably will just reset, and he'll be born again, but during genocide he realises that the character may not want to reset, and will just leave, meaning he'll actually be dead.
"Each time a number increases, that feeling is me" Well, shit, I spent my Pacifist run getting gold by sparing people, I guess I wasn't really a pacifist after all
+THiNGYBOBinc and yet... you can't avoid GOLD. =) I'm always influencing you a bit, even on the pacifist route. When you find better weapons or armor and equip them? My influence. (unless you choose not to) When you get GOLD from sparing monsters? Also my influence.
Actually no. Deltarune isn't a sequel or prequel. Its actually a story of Toby Fox (the creator). While he was making Undertale he had Deltarune in his head. Also, Undyne has both of her eyes (no patch), Asriel is in collage, and Toriel is a teacher. Yes, because Toriel is a teacher it might seem like a sequel, but it's not. Like when Kris wakes up in bed. Its explaining that Toby Fox wakes up because he can't stop thinking about Deltarune. When Kris takes out his heart is saying that Toby Fox doesn't want to keep waking up. He is saying stop controlling me. But who knows? I might be wrong.
No...? Hmm... How curious. You must have misunderstood. (eyes widen) SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL? (inching closer) *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA* (slash) 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
I guess the line "since when were you the one in control" is a criticism of the player, as it implies that they're a slave to their own love of violence, their own desire for power, or their own sheer morbid curiosity for wanting to see what would happen if they chose this path. That's what makes this game so good, the fact that it's such a good narrative while simultaneously having such a good meta-narrative.
+Verminator4 It's generally seen more as that the First Child had Frisk possessed from the very beginning, and the Genocide route is just him/her gaining full control over them. Of course, since the First Child at this point is the literal embodiment of violence simply for progression, might as well be the same thing.
+Verminator4 What i find impressive, it's that after that, you REALLY don't have any control on the game. You can reset the game (with patience) for doing the pacific run if you want for "fixing" the story and "erase" the genocide run. Do an another timeline, like Sans would said. But you cannot, cause in the end, after the credits, you can see "Chara"'s coming back. - If you choose to stay with Toriel, he's looking at you with red eyes and laugh. - If you choose to not be with Toriel, every character on the photo is marked with a red cross unless "Chara". Chara win. You lose. And you can't turn back.
If you're using a copy you got from steam even that might not be enough if you let it save to the cloud. The only way to avoid a terrible fate is to simply reset before you reach the very end of the genocide run.
Oh yeah you right,human soul can't fuse with human soul too. And Flowey doesn't have a soul :v (mindblowing for me since I never think about it till now)
You know the barrier was already broken when asriel took chara to the surface. Remember at the end of the pacifist route Toriel said Asgore took human souls because he just wanted to get revenge on humans cuz he knew the barrier was broken.
@@hummingcow1550 The barrier was never broken. Asriel fused with Chara's soul and CROSSED the barrier. It takes the power equivalent to seven human souls to destroy the barrier.
@@Miguel-bd6xq didn't toriel said that- the barrier was already broken. Asgore just wanted to take revenge against humanity so he collected human souls to become stronger?(something like that)
Perhaps the most chilling thing about this ending is that the only reason you one-shot shit on this route is because your killing intent is so unbelievably strong that any poor monster that crosses your path has it's very existence crumble beneath your blade. Chara's killing intent is so strong that he literally kills your game, ending his own existence. From his perspective, Chara literally killed *reality.* Kids got anger management issues.
+Mr. D In the true lab, the tapes of Asriel and Chara explain what happened. Also i say 'they' because Frisk/Chara is intentionally androgynous, it's never said if they're male/female/other.
Zach Bird Oh ok... but the tapes in the true lab really show Chara as evil? Was it their intention to die to return as a evil entity to kill the monsters?
Interesting how when Flowey kills ASGORE, he starts saying how he never betrayed you and how he can help. But right when he says, "Please don't kill me", his voice changes to that of Asriel. EDIT: For those wondering, I understand why it changes I just find it unique on Toby's part for including that.
I love how you're such a horrible, despicable person by the end of the Genocide route that Asgore can't even recognize you as human anymore. You're not a human. You're not a monster. You're something MUCH worse.
You have become equivelent to a flower with determination. Something with no soul or emotions, but still has a desire to act upon the world. Except you murdered a flower at that level, so i guess that makes you worse.
+Chaotic Jonas Your definition is flawed and caters to a very, very small audience. A game is an interactive medium. It is not about being able to get every possible detail. In fact, the audience is far more likely to miss details in games than they are in movies or book, uninteractive media. By definition this is a game and popular opinion states it is a great game. Hell, your definition makes a movie a game because it's possible to get every single detail.
For those who haven't actually done the Genocide ending, there's something this footage doesn't capture. During Chara's jumpscare, the game exits fullscreen if you were in it. Once she strikes the screen, the actual window of the game will shake back and forth as if it were an enemy in game, until it shuts itself off.
"I promise I won't get in your way" *destroy Asgore's soul since the player need to absorb his soul if they want to cross the barrier* Flowey are you trying to be badass on your last moment?
@@alexbaribeault Flowey wants to stop the player! He's afraid of what he's unleashed, just like we're afraid of what we've unleashed in Chara! Even though he still has no empathy, Flowey's final act was one of heroism.
I think it’s be a mix of stupidity and intelligence He kills Asgore in act of fear hoping that that action would convince you to spare his life. But it’s also stupid because he uses that excuse even though he’s prevented us from going back to the surface. BUT it’s also smart because he’s prevented us frim going to the surface. So when he legit kills Asgore he desperately hopes that that’s enough to spare him. But in our eyes it looks stupid and that his excuse is sarcastic. So I guess in the genocide route the Player’s the the villain and Flowey (and Chara dependng on how you see them, are/) is the hero(s). Flowey did snitch on you to Asgore during the last moment. But I guess he screwed it up since Asgore thought we were a monster. Which means he probably said something to him like “There’s a monster going around and killing the entire underground!” But he meant ‘Monster’ metaphorically. Asgore must’ve thought he meant it literally. Which is why he spares you and wants to play tea party. (And Chara’s kinda a hero by killing you which avenges about everyone, *DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT* .) But in the end, Flowey doesn’t know it but he saved most people from being killed. So yayy Floweyyyy! Where is he? Oh right, he’s dead. Edit: Thinking that Chara’s a hero and the Player’s the villain are mine and a few other’s people’s opinion. No hate, I respect you :)
A scarf of red And a jacket blue Are all that’s left Of brothers two. One was short The other tall, But now they’re gone. You killed them all. You fell below And earned their trust Now you’re covered In their dust You wanted more DETERMINATION So you went mass Extermination. How could you be So heartless and cold? Now this story With sorrow is told. The flowers all bloom And the bird songs tell That people like you S H O U L D B E B U R N I N G I N H E L L
Sans is powerful, remember the lady who runs the INN place in snowdin? near her, there's some rabbit guy, he says that "did you know, if you sleep, you get more hp than your actual HP?" so what does sans do all the time? HE SLEEPS! means, he has more than 1 HP, he has over 99999999999999999999!!!!!!! He's a FUCKING GOD.
I think he had a deja vu of previous timelines when he encountered Flowey in his own genocide run. Remember that Toriel has deja vu of other fallen humans, Frisk's pie flavor preference etc. , so does Asgore knows how many time Frisk died. "Are you a monster?" would be the dialogue he said to Flowey when they first met, back when Flowey was still able to control the timeline. Then, when Frisk does a genocide run, it triggers a similar situation he experienced in previous timelines (Flowey also did genocide before), thus questioning whether they were a monster (A line intended to respond Flowey but spoken to Frisk this time)
@@K1ttyGam3r it's a Skyrim reference it's Dragon Language for Bend Will which allows the player use the dragon shout known as Gol Hah Dov which when used can allow someone to control and people, animals, and dragons
*@The AnimeGamerDude* Oh that’s neat thanks I’m sorry I’m really late to reply I just started getting into Undertale again and I decided to revisit this vid
I'm... so happy... I reset my file after getting spared by sans... I genuinely think I would have weeped in fear and shock after seeing that ending... knowing which decision I would have taken if prompted with that choice. Not to mention Flowey's end...
YES! So Sans actually has saved at least one timeline from this horrible end just by being the greatest troll the world has ever seen. His efforts were not in vain after all.
+Andrew Cunningham His dialogue is what got to me and saw just, how much WORSE I was than I initially thought. At the last part of the fight I tried to see if I could get to the spare option but it can't be done so, I save scummed, and got him to get me to "spare" me knowing what that meant. So yeah sans is fucking awesome
Man watching the Genocide ending first was a mistake for me.... When your character kills flowey automatically, I'm just like "YEAH KILL THAT FUCKER! STUPID FLOWER". Then I just saw the true ending, and came to a sudden realisation.... I felt like I was about to cry revisiting this ending and seeing *Asriel's* face being on there that whole scene and I'm like "NO IM SORRY! I DIDN'T MEAN IT!!! DON'T KILL THE FLOWER!! ABORT! ABORT!!!" This game is a master at pulling all of your heart strings.
I dont think enough people talk about this ending before Chara shows up. Flowey, now being able to show his true self (Asriel,) tries to warn Asgore about you. He tries to save his father, who doesnt even recognize him, through tears...All because of you. The monster he created. After all, he's the one who said "kill or be killed," right? When your fight with Asgore starts, Asriel doesnt want to see his father die by your hand, so he does it himself. He then pleads, trying to prove he's helpful to you. He pleads and begs for mercy, but your character is beyond corruption, and literally uncontrollably, you kill him. Asriel doesnt recognize that Chara is under your influence, so in his eyes, he dies at the hand of the very human he saw as his own sibling. When you really peel away at the layers of this route’s story, it's not only gut-wrenching, but heartbreaking. It's no wonder Toby made it so hard.
I like this ending. Its cold. Its soulless. It kills you and leaves you with the horrible, grim fact that you could not control this. You were totally helpless to this ending. It leaves you soaked in the consequences of what you did, the route leaves you feeling all powerful until the end takes your power away.
I hate this ending, just seeing this reaffirms my choice of never doing this to my file ;~; Seeing Flowey reverting back to his old self and begging you not to kill him breaks my heart every single time.
@@HattedFool I think he had a deja vu of previous timelines when he encountered Flowey in his own genocide run. Remember that Toriel has deja vu of other fallen humans, Frisk's pie flavor preference etc. , so does Asgore knows how many time Frisk died. "Are you a monster?" would be the dialogue he said to Flowey when they first met, back when Flowey was still able to control the timeline. Then, when Frisk does a genocide run, it triggers a similar situation he experienced in previous timelines (Flowey also did genocide before), thus questioning whether they were a monster (A line intended to respond Flowey but spoken to Frisk this time)
I don't know much about this game, but your killing monsters. The same ones that the human race fought. Plus, They attacked you first. Also, sparing them is kinda saying fuck you to your own race. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@@falcolom A large part of the game was to show you that these monsters aren’t two dimensional evil bad guys. They’re people. Some would say they’re just as “human” as you are. So to go to their home and eradicate them all is…well, genocide. You wiped out a people. And yes, they attack you first because of what their king told them and what his plan was, but through interacting with them in battle instead of fighting, you get to see their more human side and you change their perception of you. They want to see the surface, but to do that, they have fight you. But by the end of pacifist, you were their salvation. You set them free, just like they wanted to be and you did it without violence. This game is telling you there’s a better way than just violence.
Okay, but if you played the True Pacifist playthrough, killing Flowey at the end of Genocide is fucking heart breaking. Because it's not really the cold, soulless Flowey we know and hate. He wouldn't cry and beg for his life. That's Asriel.
I don't think so. Flowey didn't suddenly gain a SOUL with no impetus; that's impossible. We know Flowey doesn't want to die, so I think he was acting like Asriel to awaken any sort of pity remaining in Chara. He was trying to play to their emotions the way you do on a pacifist route, except Chara on LV 20 is unspareable and unbeatable.
Yeah, big let down of the game is like the big letdown of Marxism: people don't work that way! All a bunch of feel-good without any connection to human nature. Just, no reason Flowey suddenly becomes good? I don't think so. Just like a psychopath will play emotions. Flowey's transformation, iirc, also turned out to be temporary. And that was best case scenario.
And I know you might thing “well you’re now possessed by Chara.” My thoughts on that are: Chara was basically dead before you finished genocide, you finishing genocide gives her new life. She can’t kill anyone or anything because she’s essentially trapped inside the player. Now Chara gets a new life where she is a good person essentially sparing everyone including Chara.
You know what scares me about Chara? The second time you do a genocide run, he calls himself "The demon who comes when his name is called." I didn't really know what he meant at the time, but the more I think about it, the more I realize: I named him Frost, the same thing I call _every_ player character in an RPG. Chara's hatred isn't limited to Undertale. He manifests in any game where you grow by killing others.
+The Frost Dragon That's a great connection. The issue for me, though, is that I read Toby's tweet that you should name the character after yourself. So I did, and everything else just felt really confusing. Why aren't I playing as myself, and why does this ancient evil genocidal killer have my name? Cause I always name myself different things in different RPG's.
+George-Douglas Price He says to name Chara after yourself because then it's YOU running around being a murderous douche, not just a character, but you, and Chara is the weapon you're using to pull it off...basically it's to make you feel like you were just put in the corner in pre school
CrystalDemonSword Yeah but I wasn't being a murderous douche, I was being a happy pacifist friend. Still, the ancient evil genocidal killer has my name and contributes nothing to the story by having it. The only time it mattered was when Asriel cries out to him during the final battle. Which, in retrospect, means nothing because Asriel's crying out to HIM and not YOU even though it's YOUR NAME. Kinda hurts me, actually, cause it takes a lot of the weight away from what Asriel's saying.
George-Douglas Price I guess that would suck, I usually name him Chara regardless, as that's what he should be known as unless you finish pacifist and they realize it's frisk.
[Pacifist spoilers] Notice how his voice changes just before he dies... That sheer terror of seeing who he thought was [name] was enough to remind Flowey of who he really was. I kinda get the feeling that [name] got up to more than just name-calling before the whole barrier incident happened.
The reason why flowey wanted the genocide to happen is so that he could reincarnate his old friend back to life so that they could live together. As it turns out, his old friend isn't a friend anymore.
He was. He still adored Chara, even without the ability to feel compassion. He never attacks Chara, never runs away (perhaps he can't because sometimes the flee button isn't there), but just begs for his life.
@@NiennaFan1 He knows he can't run away from _you._ But he also doesn't want to run away from his best friend. His best friend, whom he thought was you as he really wanted them back and he really wanted a playmate like him. Since you (a mass murderer) were soulless like him, and Frisk admittedly looks like Chara, he put two-and-two together and just rolled with it. I'm pretty sure if he knew it was _you_ and not _Chara_ then he'd have run away. Or maybe he was just hopeless by this point. Like "Okay, you killed literally everyone else. Lemme just make sure you can't get through the barrier by destroying the only other boss monster soul in the Underground. Oh shit, you're gonna kill me. Please don't. I was doing this to help you! I'm your friend!"
"Boy, this undertale game sure was fun. Glad I'm a boring old goody two shoes who got the pacifist ending in their first (and part of a second?) go. That ending was sweet... " ... "I wonder..." ... "What would happen if I were to..." ... "...Kill Everyone?" ... "I mean alot of games tend to pack fun stuff into their murder routes (loooking at you dishonored). And I'll bet I'll see all kinds of interesting secrets. I do oh so love to see everything possible in a game. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? If anything really goes wrong I can simply reset the game and start again..." ... "Its not like this game can remember this stuff... right?" ... "I think I'll just google what happens real quick... just in case..." * Spends next two hours researching the horrors of the genocide route and why it is the absolute worst possible thing you could do to a game and how it literally is nearly impossible to make the game forget like jesus christ is this game fucking alive holy shit * ... "Yeah I think I'm good"
The Genocide Run is.. kinda boring Gameplay Wise anyway. Not that it's meant to be fun, but you practically have to do what's a deconstruction of level grinding. Meaning, you gotta walk in circles for HOURS.
@@RiotRandy I SPENT A GOD DAMN HOUR SEARCHING FOR FUCKING JERRY IN SNOWDON WALKING IN A CIRCLE DURING GENOCIDE IM HAPPY SOMEONE GETS HOW ANNOYING THAT IS
@@CyrusTheConquerer It's not about killing everything you walk into, you have to specifically grind in the Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall, and Hotlands/CORE. Killing everything you encounter while playing regularly will not give you the genocide ending. You grind in each new town/main location before boss battles. By doing this, your save points will say things like "16 left." as in 16 monsters left to kill in that area. Then when you've killed everything in that area, it will only say "Determination." at the save points, and when you encounter fights like normal after you've killed everything, it'll just say "But nobody came". That's how you know you've got the genocide route and unless you mess it up, you're locked onto that route.
I actually have an interpretation for the two choices at the end of the genocide run if you accept Chara's offer, then she's happy to see you cooperate and not chicken out at the last moment, and all you see is her destroying the world if you deny her offer... then she suddenly sees you as another thing in her way, so she rushes you and literally tries to *break the fourth wall* in order to kill you since you were basically in her way (as evidenced by how the window shakes if you play Undertale in window mode)
2 years old, but I might as well answer. It's because, in the genocide run, Asgore doesn't comprehend that you're a human. You're a monster in his eye, and he always invites those to tea...
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The creepiest part about all of this is when Chara says "Let's erase this world and move on to the next". She's not talking about a world in the Undertale universe, she's talking about another game's world. The next RPG you play, specifically, where you hack and slash your way through and gain LV and EXP. Also when she says "The demon who comes when they call my name", it's referring to the fact that basically, anytime someone plays an RPG they give the main character the same name. So, if you name your character in another RPG the same name you named the fallen human in Undertale, she's basically saying that that's HER in the game.
This really shows how much of a demon you have become. It's to the point were the same character who has no empathy, tries to kill you the first time you meet him, has a saying that literally says "In this world it's kill or be killed!", kills his own father, and absorbs the six human souls to gain SAVE manipulation powers just to put you through an endless loop of torture, starts crying for his life like a baby in the presence of you.
Genocide has "creepypasta" written all over it. The game is advertised as one where nothing has to be destroyed, you're encouraged to play the pacifist route. The game wants you to be good, to show that nothing has to be solved through violence and death. By taking the good path, you're given a lot of story and character development, humorous dialogue and events to add into the mix. And in the end, you're given an epic boss fight and rewarded a tear-wrenching ending. Genocide route changes everything. Everything around you becomes grim, once humorous and happy characters become afraid. Places become abandoned, empty, as everything runs in terror from your power. Two monsters throw everything they possibly can in the hopes of putting a stop to you, to your intent of defying what the game wanted you to do. Through determination and malice, you persevere all the way to the bitter end just to see what would happen if you decided to go against the game's goals. And you're met with a horrifying discovery. The "demon" in the game has finally taken control of you, your actions are now decided by it. Attempts to play the game again will only be met with a reminder that your journey, your story, is over. There is nothing you can do to stop it, you've dug your own grave and now you must lie in it.
I got my 8-year-old cousin into this game but before I did I thought it over, because if there was a chance he would kill people I couldn't recommend the game to him. Undertale Genocide Route is a different game, easily rated PG-13.
genocide only happens if you deliberately kill EVERY monster in game though. Pretty sure no one would do that on their first run, and even if they do, I doubt they would last against undyne and sans and think that it's anything normal, but rather the game's warning to try to stop you.
+Christian Claudio No. I couldn't believe the game would ever make me feel for Flowey. But it did. He wanted to feel, but he couldn't. Even without his soul, he tried to do the right thing. Countless times. But time just kept resetting. He'd been forcibly injected with "determination," the will and power to live. He couldn't stop. And it just kept repeating, over and over, until nothing mattered anymore. And he would do ANYTHING to break this endless cycle of madness. Flowey is pitiable indeed.
Actually, it's a little-known fact everyone in the universe who has completed a true pacifist run and is not a sadistic monster feels bad for Flowey. So, no, you are not the only one who feels very very bad for Fowey.
I think it's really horrible of how Asriel ends up being slaughtered by the one person he "could love". He grew up with Chara together, became siblings, and even died to go along with his/her plan and help him/her. And yet... despite everything they've been through and how Asriel loved him/her dearly, he ends up being the last victim of his former brother/sister's blade to the point where not in Flowey's voice, but his own, he begs and cries for his life. That really shows how much of a master at psychological manipulation, cruelty, and evil Chara and YOU, the player, can be. It also shows just how much of innocent, pure-hearted angels Frisk and the Pacifist players really are as well.
Pacifist Asgore: I must kill you and take your soul Flowey: KILL ME Genocide Asgore: Cant we just settle this over a pint? Flowey: please don’t kill me
asgore doesnt want to kill you in Genocide because you grown so strong and demonic that asgore doesnt even recognize you as a monster which is why he says "What kind of monster are you?"
+HakkiriMotto It's worst when you're actually playing it late at night. If you're playing in windowed mode, the window freaks out, right out of a creepypasta.
+HakkiriMotto It's worst when you're actually playing it late at night. If you're playing in windowed mode, the window freaks out, right out of a creepypasta.
I feel like it's an often overlooked detail, but I absolutely adore the way Chara talks. They speak slowly, simply, directly, and coldly. But they are also polite and extremely articulate, demonstrating a vastly superior level of intelligence when compared to many of the other characters in the game, especially given the fact that they're a child.
Everybody nowadays doesn't even bother to do a experiment with even 3 children, they WANT to hate children because even if the children try to provide evidence that redeems them, it will get lost and they will be bullied out of the world before it even becomes popular enough for a fraction of society to accept.
This gets a lot more f’d up when you realize flowey’s “goat” face he does is probably his asriel side. When he calls you his best friend, that’s asriel talking to Chara.
so… in undyne's fight. she did said that alphys have warned asgore and tell him to absorb the human souls right? but why he didn't do it? dame you. goaded
+張皓禎 Maybe the message never got to Asgore. Maybe Alphys was supposed to be the messenger, but after losing Mettaton, decided being a hero wasn't worth it if she couldn't save her girlfriend or the psychological equivalent of her son. So she took one last trip to Waterfall.
No, of course not. You're a psychopath. Fear isn't something you have in you at all. Flowey gets more screen time though, making him the main villain. You're just the behind-the-scenes villain. :p
Something I like about the genocide ending is that when you encounter asgore, the mercy button isn't even an option, which is a really good way of just telling you that you went too far and aren't above consequences. The only way you can spare the innocent monsters has been engulfed in your own wanting of power. Edit: another enthusiastic feeling that the run gives you is that you've grown so far in your own power you can't even control your own sanity, which is what the game is trying to tell you when your repeated attacks to kill flower aren't even in your control.
The fact that we literally shredded Flowey into tiny little pieces so brutally and watched him collapse and die in front of us is interesting. That's one of the most brutal killings in Undertale, and since we are following the route where Chara takes over you, I think Chara, so corrupted by the HATE that we threw upon her, wanted Flowey/Asriel to suffer. After all, in her corrupted mind (thanks to us), she thinks Asriel betrayed them. When Flowey talks to us, he's not talking to the player. He's talking to the person inside us, Chara. He is pleading to live and tries to say that he never betrayed us. But Chara doesnt forgive.
This scene implies Chara to lack a human soul, just as how Flowey lacked a soul of their own. Their consciousness just resided within Frisk's as though an undead entity. This implies him to be more a soulless parasite at this point in time. Yes, they did plan on going to the surface to kill the humans, but by all means, they shouldn't had been able to come back. They didn't even had determination of their own; as they point out, the determination they had was actually Frisk's, just as Frisk's soul was theirs. Chara was noted to have had sociopathic tendencjes even before he died. The only thing the Genocide route gave him was a fascination towards power, or a fixation. This is something not even Flowey would eventualy conclude; keep in mind that he merely can't feel emotional responses towards others, not he's unable to think the relevant thoughts. Sociopaths usually have an interest, a fascination that they strive towards, something they believe to be the best of. They do this sort of thing because they want to feel the thrills of doing so. Killing gave them the thrills, so they've decided to make it their fixation. Let me just point out, Asriel and Chara's plan was not just to get to the surface and kill some people. It wasn't even because Chara hated humans (as what's commonly believed). They did so for the purpise of gathering six differing souls in order to break the barrier. Asriel could tell how reckless and brash this plan happened to be; sociopaths do form these sort of plans all the time. When pointed out, Chara just brushed it off and asked if he doubted them. The way Asriel reacted to this statement, it implies Chara to have an overtly confident sense of self, also a characteristic of sociopaths. This interpretation was gotten solely from observations regarding his portrayal within the game. Remember, a valid interpretation always corresponds with the original thought in some manner. Anything beyond or beneath means it's not a valid interpretation, for you're not actually seeing the original thought. Thoughts are forms of truth since they convey exactly what they are and nothing else. Nothing more, nothing less. There's actually a lot of detail pertaining within Chara's character within this scene, as well as within the tapes, alone. These sort of details are easily missed by many due to them being subtle. You have to be incredibly observant in order to see them. Anyone who portays Chara as anything but how the games portrays him means to go beyond or beneath his actual character. There's at least two different well known unofficial continuities that make this mistake, them being Glitchtale and Storyshift.
Asriel did say once Chara *wasn’t always the best person* meaning yeah. They wanted to free monsterkind but the way they tried doing it was kinda reckless.
If you think about it, flowey might have died a hero. Chara could have taken asgore’s soul and used it with frisk’s to cross the barrier. If flowey had destroyed or hid the other human souls, finishing off asgore and destroying his soul would have trapped chara underground, keeping all of humanity safe from chara. This could be why chara tries convincing you after doing a genocide to do a pacifist run, since they know their path is blocked after a genocide
1:11 He says He never betrayed you, but he made sure that Asgore's soul was gone, that way, you can't cross the barrier, that you're stuck there forever...
I just noticed that as Frisk was about to kill Flowey, Chara leaves flowey's body to go to Frisk's and Asriel is in control. Then Asriel's voice appears as Chara (Frisk) is about to kill him.
A little Easter egg, at the very end, Flowey is so frightened of you he reverts back to being Asriel. You can see his face change and his voice changes back to when he was a goat boy....
Flowey was born by injecting determination into a flower covered in the dust of Asriel. No soul. Chara was buried beneath a bed of golden flowers, so in hindsight, if you think about it hard enough, Chara was a part of those flowers which you fell on since they would have decomposed there and became flower food. So what's left of Chara could be essentially a "human" version of flowey, just without any physical form or soul of their own, so just the pure will to live, just like flowey. And the more violent you become the more power they gain over you. Whether this is to stop you, or just because they want to reset the timeline to get your soul so they can feel again, just like flowey wanted to, after you leave the underground, i do not know. My theory is that when your determination came into contact with the Chara flowers they gained determination and the will to live through you, and possibly whatever essence they had left was inside of you. As Chara mentioned however they may very well just be a demon of sorts, if not before, then now they are, which is why they were able to partially control Asriel. Even Asriel admits Chara was at least "not the best person." And to be honest, Chara being the source of your power may make sense too, feeding off of bloodshed to the point where you....well, they can at least,... literally destroy an entire timeline. Frisk may be the mass murderer, but Chara is true power. People saying you are Chara, when in fact you lose control of your own character when Chara exerts themselves is a load of bullshit.
holy shit, nator scared me, he has the vibes of that one game where flashing the room light on and off makes something appear, God I hate I can't remember it.
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"Since when were you the one in control?"
"Since I had the unistall button"
damn
@@itsshiep3732 doesnt work lmao. You need to remove more files.
@@atoaster9940 sooooo..... Basically we're in control. Always
@@jpjfrey5673 Yeah but its not intentional lmao
@@atoaster9940 it is. It's a game made for *us* to play. Not for it to play itaelf
You know you're a terrible person when even FLOWEY is scared shitless of you
yee
Mhm
Why he just a flower
@@ZodiacXDG i cant tell if youre joking or what
Sans is horrible?
Asgore on True Pacifist Route: I'm going to kill you and take your soul. I'm sorry.
Asgore on Genocide Route: Want a cup of tea?
I guess he is scared shitless.
No, he doesn't even recognize you as a human.
Hun Lepto well even undye the undyne says that youre not a human
he’s very scared
Asgore is every bit the coward Toriel says he is on the Pacifist route.
Flowey: Please don't kill me!
Me: It's kill or be killed, remember?
Karma
A n d y o u d i d n t k i l l m e , d i d y o u ?
karma at its best
That was Asriel. Just notice how Flowey's voice is very high pitched and is in an E note and Asriel's is a mid high voice that's in one of the black keys, in which I believe is the key in between G and A.
Asriel is a pacifist too, so it could give Asriel/Flowey a reason to say that.
Player: Please don't kill me!
Chara: Through your guidance I realized the purpose of my reincarnation... POWER
there is just one small skeleton that stands between me and this ending,
Smol
How can you not get past him? He's the easiest enemy, can only deal 1 dmg and dies to one hit
+Stepant26 Karma increases the damage you receive and he keeps dodging all your attacks for 22 turns..
JomJom412 I know that
I've watched many people do it and I've gotten so close
It's the very last attack that always kills me
It's the tall skeleton getting in my way. Seriously I just can't kill him lol
I don't know what I'm more terrified of: Flowey's brutal death, or Chara's jumpscare.
Red Hood Angel Or the music you hear when you meet Chara (Or the Chara jumpscare music)
Red Hood Angel That scared the living soul out of me!!!
Thanks for the warning. I hope i won't get caught
Red Hood Angel, it was Chara
both
neutral ending:
Flowey: Kill me! Kill me!
genocide ending:
Flowey: please! don't kill me.
Pacifist ending:
Flowey: I luv u guys I set u free
I think this is because in the neutral run Flowey knows you can and probably will just reset, and he'll be born again, but during genocide he realises that the character may not want to reset, and will just leave, meaning he'll actually be dead.
COME ON! KILL ME! KILL ME! KIL MMEEEE!!!!
What?Why Would flowey think you wouldn't reset?Like frisk is tear wrenching in her head
Kill me? Reminds me of fucking angels of death
"Each time a number increases, that feeling is me" Well, shit, I spent my Pacifist run getting gold by sparing people, I guess I wasn't really a pacifist after all
+THiNGYBOBinc
and yet... you can't avoid GOLD. =)
I'm always influencing you a bit, even on the pacifist route.
When you find better weapons or armor and equip them? My influence. (unless you choose not to)
When you get GOLD from sparing monsters? Also my influence.
+Chara Dreemurr WHEN DID YOU GET HERE
+Chara Dreemurr So you're basically the embodiment of math, then
THiNGYBOBinc Maybe I'm the embodiment of nerdy stuff lol
I did claim that Loox's family name was "Eyewalker", after all.
+Chara Dreemurr Loox Eyewalker LOL XD
_"Let us erase this pointless world and move on to the next"_
*DELTARUNE?*
IM MAKING MAC AND CHEESE
Actually no. Deltarune isn't a sequel or prequel. Its actually a story of Toby Fox (the creator). While he was making Undertale he had Deltarune in his head. Also, Undyne has both of her eyes (no patch), Asriel is in collage, and Toriel is a teacher. Yes, because Toriel is a teacher it might seem like a sequel, but it's not. Like when Kris wakes up in bed. Its explaining that Toby Fox wakes up because he can't stop thinking about Deltarune. When Kris takes out his heart is saying that Toby Fox doesn't want to keep waking up. He is saying stop controlling me. But who knows? I might be wrong.
No...?
Hmm...
How curious.
You must have misunderstood.
(eyes widen)
SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?
(inching closer)
*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
(slash)
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
@Plat DragonWell oki
deltarune genocide confirmed
I have never seen a more brutal and gruesome flower trimming before
ikrr
Flowy doesn't deserved this brutal death😥
@@pissedoffleaf9400 yes she did
@@belkYT he*
@@belkYTno he didn't
I guess the line "since when were you the one in control" is a criticism of the player, as it implies that they're a slave to their own love of violence, their own desire for power, or their own sheer morbid curiosity for wanting to see what would happen if they chose this path. That's what makes this game so good, the fact that it's such a good narrative while simultaneously having such a good meta-narrative.
+Verminator4 It's generally seen more as that the First Child had Frisk possessed from the very beginning, and the Genocide route is just him/her gaining full control over them.
Of course, since the First Child at this point is the literal embodiment of violence simply for progression, might as well be the same thing.
+Verminator4 What i find impressive, it's that after that, you REALLY don't have any control on the game.
You can reset the game (with patience) for doing the pacific run if you want for "fixing" the story and "erase" the genocide run. Do an another timeline, like Sans would said.
But you cannot, cause in the end, after the credits, you can see "Chara"'s coming back.
- If you choose to stay with Toriel, he's looking at you with red eyes and laugh.
- If you choose to not be with Toriel, every character on the photo is marked with a red cross unless "Chara".
Chara win.
You lose.
And you can't turn back.
So do you need to uninstall and install the game again if you don't want to get fucked over?
If you're using a copy you got from steam even that might not be enough if you let it save to the cloud. The only way to avoid a terrible fate is to simply reset before you reach the very end of the genocide run.
+Verminator4 Think you're looking too far into it, buddy
Pretty sure it's just tryna spook ya
You know flowey did the right thing in the end by destroying asgore’s soul so that you can’t make it into the surface
Oh yeah you right,human soul can't fuse with human soul too. And Flowey doesn't have a soul :v (mindblowing for me since I never think about it till now)
Wow. FLOWEY is the hero. The villain of the only other endings of the game. That's insane.
You know the barrier was already broken when asriel took chara to the surface. Remember at the end of the pacifist route Toriel said Asgore took human souls because he just wanted to get revenge on humans cuz he knew the barrier was broken.
@@hummingcow1550 The barrier was never broken. Asriel fused with Chara's soul and CROSSED the barrier. It takes the power equivalent to seven human souls to destroy the barrier.
@@Miguel-bd6xq didn't toriel said that- the barrier was already broken. Asgore just wanted to take revenge against humanity so he collected human souls to become stronger?(something like that)
Perhaps the most chilling thing about this ending is that the only reason you one-shot shit on this route is because your killing intent is so unbelievably strong that any poor monster that crosses your path has it's very existence crumble beneath your blade.
Chara's killing intent is so strong that he literally kills your game, ending his own existence. From his perspective, Chara literally killed *reality.*
Kids got anger management issues.
But why does Chara do that? Wasn't he/she adopted by the monsters and lived happily before death? Why so much violence?
+Mr. D No, chara has always been evil. they poisoned themself in order to drive asriel mad with grief, to try and get him to kill.
Zach Bird WHAAAT?! When is it said so in the game?! And why "they"?
+Mr. D In the true lab, the tapes of Asriel and Chara explain what happened. Also i say 'they' because Frisk/Chara is intentionally androgynous, it's never said if they're male/female/other.
Zach Bird Oh ok... but the tapes in the true lab really show Chara as evil? Was it their intention to die to return as a evil entity to kill the monsters?
Chara is so scary, she sent Flowery crying to his dad.
flowey killed his dad
flowey went to under underground
I just realised that
Chara is not a girl, nor a boy. Why are you calling them "she" ?
@@gomette8 It?
Interesting how when Flowey kills ASGORE, he starts saying how he never betrayed you and how he can help. But right when he says, "Please don't kill me", his voice changes to that of Asriel.
EDIT: For those wondering, I understand why it changes I just find it unique on Toby's part for including that.
Flowey my voice??
+Shinigami Berserker I'm not flowey. Anymore were friends
+Asriel Dreemur You're a bad RPer.
You don't even know that Flowey is a Flower with the soul of Asriel and you create a channel with Asriel as name?
+AZURIION And you don't even know that Flowey doesn't have Asriel's soul.
I love how you're such a horrible, despicable person by the end of the Genocide route that Asgore can't even recognize you as human anymore.
You're not a human. You're not a monster. You're something MUCH worse.
You have become equivelent to a flower with determination.
Something with no soul or emotions, but still has a desire to act upon the world.
Except you murdered a flower at that level, so i guess that makes you worse.
***** Why do you care if the ending is different? It's just a game and all =>
+Chaotic Jonas Your definition is flawed and caters to a very, very small audience. A game is an interactive medium. It is not about being able to get every possible detail. In fact, the audience is far more likely to miss details in games than they are in movies or book, uninteractive media. By definition this is a game and popular opinion states it is a great game.
Hell, your definition makes a movie a game because it's possible to get every single detail.
***** A definition is a collectively agreed upon meaning behind a word or phrase. It's not an opinion, if it was communication wouldn't work.
***** The act of talking, texting or otherwise trying to send a message to something else, usually in a give and take sort of fashion.
For those who haven't actually done the Genocide ending, there's something this footage doesn't capture.
During Chara's jumpscare, the game exits fullscreen if you were in it. Once she strikes the screen, the actual window of the game will shake back and forth as if it were an enemy in game, until it shuts itself off.
Oh dear lord.
Toby, you're too good. You're just too good.
+The Snover I actually put it back to fullscreen, but would always go back to windowed...
God Chara....
+The Snover does the name of the window change to anything?
I didn't pay any attention. I don't think it did?
It changes like a glitch in the Matrix.
Kinda like what Flowey does...
"I promise I won't get in your way"
*destroy Asgore's soul since the player need to absorb his soul if they want to cross the barrier*
Flowey are you trying to be badass on your last moment?
Ikr? How is no one else pointing this out? Is Flowey really that stupid?
@@alexbaribeault Flowey wants to stop the player! He's afraid of what he's unleashed, just like we're afraid of what we've unleashed in Chara! Even though he still has no empathy, Flowey's final act was one of heroism.
I think it’s be a mix of stupidity and intelligence
He kills Asgore in act of fear hoping that that action would convince you to spare his life.
But it’s also stupid because he uses that excuse even though he’s prevented us from going back to the surface.
BUT it’s also smart because he’s prevented us frim going to the surface.
So when he legit kills Asgore he desperately hopes that that’s enough to spare him. But in our eyes it looks stupid and that his excuse is sarcastic. So I guess in the genocide route the Player’s the the villain and Flowey (and Chara dependng on how you see them, are/) is the hero(s). Flowey did snitch on you to Asgore during the last moment. But I guess he screwed it up since Asgore thought we were a monster. Which means he probably said something to him like “There’s a monster going around and killing the entire underground!” But he meant ‘Monster’ metaphorically. Asgore must’ve thought he meant it literally. Which is why he spares you and wants to play tea party. (And Chara’s kinda a hero by killing you which avenges about everyone, *DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT* .) But in the end, Flowey doesn’t know it but he saved most people from being killed. So yayy Floweyyyy! Where is he? Oh right, he’s dead.
Edit: Thinking that Chara’s a hero and the Player’s the villain are mine and a few other’s people’s opinion. No hate, I respect you :)
"Is this name correct?
stupid"
-- At the end of the Genocide Route --
"Greetings, I am stupid."
Or "ugly", "cute", or "gay"!
i have done this so many times its embarrassing, just to laugh at this kind of line
You: Worth it
Or "you"
Is this some sort of Call Me Kevin joke?
Dude that kill screen is one of the scariest things I've ever seen come from such a cute RPG.
Yeah. Very empathy. Much agree.
Genocide route is a different game; your choices give you a horror game as punishment and consquence.
A scarf of red
And a jacket blue
Are all that’s left
Of brothers two.
One was short
The other tall,
But now they’re gone.
You killed them all.
You fell below
And earned their trust
Now you’re covered
In their dust
You wanted more
DETERMINATION
So you went mass
Extermination.
How could you be
So heartless and cold?
Now this story
With sorrow is told.
The flowers all bloom
And the bird songs tell
That people like you
S H O U L D B E B U R N I N G I N H E L L
is this original?
@@crimson0004 Probably not
Waw.
Damn.
Reminds me of that poem at the start of that one Calvin and Hobbes book.
I like how you -well, Chara, kills every single enemy in the game just to get EXP and LV, but when it comes to Flowey, it's pure hatred.
It's been noted that San's had the ability to level up, but never did cause he was too kind. Imagine how powerful he would have been then.
Oh ? Where can I get this information ?
Pretty sure the wiki, or on the webpage. But trust me, it's legit.
I see. Well that's interesting to know :o
Sans is powerful, remember the lady who runs the INN place in snowdin? near her, there's some rabbit guy, he says that "did you know, if you sleep, you get more hp than your actual HP?" so what does sans do all the time? HE SLEEPS! means, he has more than 1 HP, he has over 99999999999999999999!!!!!!! He's a FUCKING GOD.
“What kind of monster are you?”
Ah, the beautiful double meaning of words....
"The Wolverine! Wait, sorry, wrong universe..."
I think he had a deja vu of previous timelines when he encountered Flowey in his own genocide run. Remember that Toriel has deja vu of other fallen humans, Frisk's pie flavor preference etc. , so does Asgore knows how many time Frisk died.
"Are you a monster?" would be the dialogue he said to Flowey when they first met, back when Flowey was still able to control the timeline. Then, when Frisk does a genocide run, it triggers a similar situation he experienced in previous timelines (Flowey also did genocide before), thus questioning whether they were a monster (A line intended to respond Flowey but spoken to Frisk this time)
@@victoire4881
What universe was it?
arent monsters kind
Chara: it's time to destroy this wo-
Frisk: gol, hah dov!
Chara: on second thought
what
*+read this comment*
I don’t get it help
@@K1ttyGam3r it's a Skyrim reference it's Dragon Language for Bend Will which allows the player use the dragon shout known as Gol Hah Dov which when used can allow someone to control and people, animals, and dragons
FUS ROH DAAAAAAWHHHA ::Chara disintegrates amidst ear-blasting Skyrim theme song and epic footage of hurricane florence::
*@The AnimeGamerDude*
Oh that’s neat thanks
I’m sorry I’m really late to reply I just started getting into Undertale again and I decided to revisit this vid
I'm... so happy... I reset my file after getting spared by sans...
I genuinely think I would have weeped in fear and shock after seeing that ending... knowing which decision I would have taken if prompted with that choice.
Not to mention Flowey's end...
YES! So Sans actually has saved at least one timeline from this horrible end just by being the greatest troll the world has ever seen. His efforts were not in vain after all.
+Andrew Cunningham His dialogue is what got to me and saw just, how much WORSE I was than I initially thought. At the last part of the fight I tried to see if I could get to the spare option but it can't be done so, I save scummed, and got him to get me to "spare" me knowing what that meant. So yeah sans is fucking awesome
Dragon Denton Amen.
Also, pretty sure San's is just as strong as Frisk. I mean especially if HE had leveled up.
+Dragon Denton Congrats, you just Won Undertale. Sans saved your bacon, bro. XD
Man watching the Genocide ending first was a mistake for me....
When your character kills flowey automatically, I'm just like "YEAH KILL THAT FUCKER! STUPID FLOWER". Then I just saw the true ending, and came to a sudden realisation.... I felt like I was about to cry revisiting this ending and seeing *Asriel's* face being on there that whole scene and I'm like "NO IM SORRY! I DIDN'T MEAN IT!!! DON'T KILL THE FLOWER!! ABORT! ABORT!!!"
This game is a master at pulling all of your heart strings.
PULL... ALL THE HEART STRINGS!!!
CAUSE... ALL THE HEART ATTACKS!!!!!!
+Pioxys And then you realise after that, that after the genoside run. You've doomed everyone in the True Pussyfest run.
HI PIOXYS
HOW IS STARMIE
Pioxys I'm strange. I'm scared of true lab.
@Pioxys Language, please.
"You must be the one that flower told.."
**stabs**
**runs**
**leans on a table**
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
**flower stabs**
S.Lakshmi Flora
* glorious pain *
*a
See? I never betrayed ya! It was just a prank, bro.
nightmarefuel96
I can be helpful
scary at the end
I dont think enough people talk about this ending before Chara shows up.
Flowey, now being able to show his true self (Asriel,) tries to warn Asgore about you. He tries to save his father, who doesnt even recognize him, through tears...All because of you. The monster he created. After all, he's the one who said "kill or be killed," right?
When your fight with Asgore starts, Asriel doesnt want to see his father die by your hand, so he does it himself. He then pleads, trying to prove he's helpful to you. He pleads and begs for mercy, but your character is beyond corruption, and literally uncontrollably, you kill him. Asriel doesnt recognize that Chara is under your influence, so in his eyes, he dies at the hand of the very human he saw as his own sibling.
When you really peel away at the layers of this route’s story, it's not only gut-wrenching, but heartbreaking. It's no wonder Toby made it so hard.
i mean by destroying asgore's soul flowey stops you from going to the surface soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
more like chara is under your influence
Did you guys notice that in Pacifist run, Asgore destroys the Mercy Button.
In Genocide run, there is no Mercy button because you want to to kill him.
Frisk themself is so used to wiping out everyone, the player cannot control them
I thought asgore only removed the mercy button in neutral.
I like this ending. Its cold. Its soulless. It kills you and leaves you with the horrible, grim fact that you could not control this. You were totally helpless to this ending. It leaves you soaked in the consequences of what you did, the route leaves you feeling all powerful until the end takes your power away.
I hate this ending, just seeing this reaffirms my choice of never doing this to my file ;~;
Seeing Flowey reverting back to his old self and begging you not to kill him breaks my heart every single time.
No man, He deserved to die, and How are You doing bro? Damn 9 years passed By fast, The 2010's decade was The Best
Pacifist: *AsGore tries to kill you.”
Genocide: “Can’t we settle this over a nice cup of tea?”
Well, it’s because you’re not really human anymore, you’re a monster.
@@HattedFool I think he had a deja vu of previous timelines when he encountered Flowey in his own genocide run. Remember that Toriel has deja vu of other fallen humans, Frisk's pie flavor preference etc. , so does Asgore knows how many time Frisk died.
"Are you a monster?" would be the dialogue he said to Flowey when they first met, back when Flowey was still able to control the timeline. Then, when Frisk does a genocide run, it triggers a similar situation he experienced in previous timelines (Flowey also did genocide before), thus questioning whether they were a monster (A line intended to respond Flowey but spoken to Frisk this time)
Floweys death was unnecessarily brutal.... Yet oddly satisfying...
that was the whole genocide route Imo
But he dont kill him. Was the other guy. The human "demon" ;3;
his death was the only one that made me cry
Well Flowey wasn't a monster.
Well technically he was.
At this point, you're neither human nor monster. You're just a heartless, unemotioned void.
And I love it
I don't know much about this game, but your killing monsters. The same ones that the human race fought. Plus, They attacked you first.
Also, sparing them is kinda saying fuck you to your own race.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
but he is a human, even chara is
You mean hollow knight?
@@falcolom A large part of the game was to show you that these monsters aren’t two dimensional evil bad guys. They’re people. Some would say they’re just as “human” as you are. So to go to their home and eradicate them all is…well, genocide. You wiped out a people. And yes, they attack you first because of what their king told them and what his plan was, but through interacting with them in battle instead of fighting, you get to see their more human side and you change their perception of you. They want to see the surface, but to do that, they have fight you. But by the end of pacifist, you were their salvation. You set them free, just like they wanted to be and you did it without violence. This game is telling you there’s a better way than just violence.
Okay, but if you played the True Pacifist playthrough, killing Flowey at the end of Genocide is fucking heart breaking.
Because it's not really the cold, soulless Flowey we know and hate. He wouldn't cry and beg for his life.
That's Asriel.
Plus, he has Asriel's face and voice right at the end. If he sounds like that as Flowey, then some part of Asriel must have awakened inside his SOUL.
Josie Kyle That still didn't save him from getting trimmed petal by petal by Frisk/Chara.
I don't think so. Flowey didn't suddenly gain a SOUL with no impetus; that's impossible. We know Flowey doesn't want to die, so I think he was acting like Asriel to awaken any sort of pity remaining in Chara. He was trying to play to their emotions the way you do on a pacifist route, except Chara on LV 20 is unspareable and unbeatable.
dang
Yeah, big let down of the game is like the big letdown of Marxism: people don't work that way! All a bunch of feel-good without any connection to human nature.
Just, no reason Flowey suddenly becomes good? I don't think so. Just like a psychopath will play emotions. Flowey's transformation, iirc, also turned out to be temporary. And that was best case scenario.
I completed my genocide route today
I have an extense amount of remorse
I completed it on the switch and now I can’t play with that user anymore 😩
I did it one switch too, but I reset and did the pacifist route
And I know you might thing “well you’re now possessed by Chara.” My thoughts on that are: Chara was basically dead before you finished genocide, you finishing genocide gives her new life. She can’t kill anyone or anything because she’s essentially trapped inside the player. Now Chara gets a new life where she is a good person essentially sparing everyone including Chara.
good. shows you are not completely evil
@@Cloud_Train I know that this is two years late but on the console versions you can undo the genocide run by uninstalling and reinstalling the game.
You know what scares me about Chara? The second time you do a genocide run, he calls himself "The demon who comes when his name is called." I didn't really know what he meant at the time, but the more I think about it, the more I realize: I named him Frost, the same thing I call _every_ player character in an RPG. Chara's hatred isn't limited to Undertale. He manifests in any game where you grow by killing others.
+The Frost Dragon That's a great connection. The issue for me, though, is that I read Toby's tweet that you should name the character after yourself. So I did, and everything else just felt really confusing. Why aren't I playing as myself, and why does this ancient evil genocidal killer have my name? Cause I always name myself different things in different RPG's.
+George-Douglas Price He says to name Chara after yourself because then it's YOU running around being a murderous douche, not just a character, but you, and Chara is the weapon you're using to pull it off...basically it's to make you feel like you were just put in the corner in pre school
CrystalDemonSword Yeah but I wasn't being a murderous douche, I was being a happy pacifist friend. Still, the ancient evil genocidal killer has my name and contributes nothing to the story by having it. The only time it mattered was when Asriel cries out to him during the final battle. Which, in retrospect, means nothing because Asriel's crying out to HIM and not YOU even though it's YOUR NAME. Kinda hurts me, actually, cause it takes a lot of the weight away from what Asriel's saying.
George-Douglas Price I guess that would suck, I usually name him Chara regardless, as that's what he should be known as unless you finish pacifist and they realize it's frisk.
+CrystalDemonSword holy shit... I'm playing an rpg right now... with the name I normally use... I feel evil
Your so terrifying that Flowey begs for you not to kill him. Guess Flowey is not so evil anymore. But I still feel bad.
And your MUCH greater than a monster.
[Pacifist spoilers]
Notice how his voice changes just before he dies... That sheer terror of seeing who he thought was [name] was enough to remind Flowey of who he really was. I kinda get the feeling that [name] got up to more than just name-calling before the whole barrier incident happened.
+M Cook That's because Flowey is just A--
'Scuse me, sorry, forgot about the whole spoiler thing. :P
Rock Golem
lel
The reason why flowey wanted the genocide to happen is so that he could reincarnate his old friend back to life so that they could live together. As it turns out, his old friend isn't a friend anymore.
4:19
Well guess who's having nightmares
for 6 months
Mlg CandyMan
Everyone who saw this?
Mlg CandyMan YOU ARE NOT ME I FIND IT NORMAL
Tbh, it wasn't a tiny bit scary for me, even the first time I saw the jumpscare
I have only 0.0 second to have a nightmare
[Real me] I am watching this at like 1a.m.
That's me. "Chara".
How much damage did that thing do?
Aside from the psychological damage.
OVER 9000
I've heard it was about 234 nines, about enough damage to kill almost every RPG boss.
+nathan nibblett Almost every?
Enough damage to kill every single boss in any RPG ever all at once, I believe.
+Ryuichi Naruhodo Even Disgaea bosses?
this game started out so happy and adorable and games that can change the atmosphere so quickly are probably my favorite
The game didn't change the atmosphere. You did.
3 years now. Just remember.
*Sans warned you of this ending. SANS KNEW the consequences of your actions.*
sans assumed a demon would beat you up he he failed, lol.
You know, it's ironic. As you cut down Flowey, I can't help but think that he looks like a broken heart.
Can't unsee.
He was. He still adored Chara, even without the ability to feel compassion. He never attacks Chara, never runs away (perhaps he can't because sometimes the flee button isn't there), but just begs for his life.
@@NiennaFan1 He knows he can't run away from _you._ But he also doesn't want to run away from his best friend. His best friend, whom he thought was you as he really wanted them back and he really wanted a playmate like him. Since you (a mass murderer) were soulless like him, and Frisk admittedly looks like Chara, he put two-and-two together and just rolled with it. I'm pretty sure if he knew it was _you_ and not _Chara_ then he'd have run away. Or maybe he was just hopeless by this point. Like "Okay, you killed literally everyone else. Lemme just make sure you can't get through the barrier by destroying the only other boss monster soul in the Underground. Oh shit, you're gonna kill me. Please don't. I was doing this to help you! I'm your friend!"
"Boy, this undertale game sure was fun. Glad I'm a boring old goody two shoes who got the pacifist ending in their first (and part of a second?) go. That ending was sweet... "
...
"I wonder..."
...
"What would happen if I were to..."
...
"...Kill Everyone?"
...
"I mean alot of games tend to pack fun stuff into their murder routes (loooking at you dishonored). And I'll bet I'll see all kinds of interesting secrets. I do oh so love to see everything possible in a game. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? If anything really goes wrong I can simply reset the game and start again..."
...
"Its not like this game can remember this stuff... right?"
...
"I think I'll just google what happens real quick... just in case..."
* Spends next two hours researching the horrors of the genocide route and why it is the absolute worst possible thing you could do to a game and how it literally is nearly impossible to make the game forget like jesus christ is this game fucking alive holy shit *
...
"Yeah I think I'm good"
The Genocide Run is.. kinda boring Gameplay Wise anyway. Not that it's meant to be fun, but you practically have to do what's a deconstruction of level grinding. Meaning, you gotta walk in circles for HOURS.
spinningninja2 also you can still reset everything it just takes some work
@@RiotRandy I SPENT A GOD DAMN HOUR SEARCHING FOR FUCKING JERRY IN SNOWDON WALKING IN A CIRCLE DURING GENOCIDE IM HAPPY SOMEONE GETS HOW ANNOYING THAT IS
riotrandy678 is it still a genocide run if the dummy doesn’t become glad dummy even if you killed every single thing you run into?
@@CyrusTheConquerer It's not about killing everything you walk into, you have to specifically grind in the Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall, and Hotlands/CORE. Killing everything you encounter while playing regularly will not give you the genocide ending. You grind in each new town/main location before boss battles. By doing this, your save points will say things like "16 left." as in 16 monsters left to kill in that area. Then when you've killed everything in that area, it will only say "Determination." at the save points, and when you encounter fights like normal after you've killed everything, it'll just say "But nobody came". That's how you know you've got the genocide route and unless you mess it up, you're locked onto that route.
"Greetings, I Am Gay"
Me: good for you
😂😂
I actually have an interpretation for the two choices at the end of the genocide run
if you accept Chara's offer, then she's happy to see you cooperate and not chicken out at the last moment, and all you see is her destroying the world
if you deny her offer... then she suddenly sees you as another thing in her way, so she rushes you and literally tries to *break the fourth wall* in order to kill you since you were basically in her way (as evidenced by how the window shakes if you play Undertale in window mode)
Omfg when she shook the screen all I thought is when a monster is hit, they shake... Now I'm scared again
Makes sense
Pretty neat how flowey tries so hard to make you kill him in the neutral run, and now he begs for mercy
KILL MEH
KILL MEH
KILL MEH
KILL MEH
DONT KILL MEH
Neutral run:Asgore tries to kill you
Pasifist run:Asgore tries to kill you
Genocide run:Lets settle this over tea
Because why the hell not?
2 years old, but I might as well answer.
It's because, in the genocide run, Asgore doesn't comprehend that you're a human. You're a monster in his eye, and he always invites those to tea...
He was just probably trying to de escalate the situation. It just didn't work
Why are we all here after 2 years?
@@iliodora25 ikr hahaha
@@josuemoreno7002E
Since when was this a horror game?
Since the FIGHT button was abused.
Since the player became a horrific murderer.
Since the player made the wrong decision
It's consequences and results of your actions.
@@44bigfreeze it's isn't a wrong choice
you know you are fucked up when flowey starts crying and begs for your mercy
Me: *names the fallen human "inevitable"*
Genocide Ending: Greetings, I am inevitable.
Hahahahhahahaha.
DUDE NO WAY LOL 😂
@@ElectricMan3444 Yea ahahaha
@AcropoliXGaming [Rune] - 49 wait!! I so glad you replied it been 1 year since you made the comment I replied on I glad you safe!!! And I liked the joke I thought it was funny because it reminded me of Thanos!!!
@@ElectricMan3444 Mhm
The creepiest part about all of this is when Chara says "Let's erase this world and move on to the next". She's not talking about a world in the Undertale universe, she's talking about another game's world. The next RPG you play, specifically, where you hack and slash your way through and gain LV and EXP. Also when she says "The demon who comes when they call my name", it's referring to the fact that basically, anytime someone plays an RPG they give the main character the same name. So, if you name your character in another RPG the same name you named the fallen human in Undertale, she's basically saying that that's HER in the game.
No
*they
yes
Nah that’s kinda dope actually
*she
_"I promise I won't get in your way!"_
_"I can help…"_
_"I can…"_
_"I can…"_
*.*
*.*
*.*
*_"Please don't kill me!"_*
*_SLASH_*
The only character to beg for mercy!
This really shows how much of a demon you have become. It's to the point were the same character who has no empathy, tries to kill you the first time you meet him, has a saying that literally says "In this world it's kill or be killed!", kills his own father, and absorbs the six human souls to gain SAVE manipulation powers just to put you through an endless loop of torture, starts crying for his life like a baby in the presence of you.
Genocide has "creepypasta" written all over it.
The game is advertised as one where nothing has to be destroyed, you're encouraged to play the pacifist route. The game wants you to be good, to show that nothing has to be solved through violence and death. By taking the good path, you're given a lot of story and character development, humorous dialogue and events to add into the mix. And in the end, you're given an epic boss fight and rewarded a tear-wrenching ending.
Genocide route changes everything.
Everything around you becomes grim, once humorous and happy characters become afraid. Places become abandoned, empty, as everything runs in terror from your power. Two monsters throw everything they possibly can in the hopes of putting a stop to you, to your intent of defying what the game wanted you to do. Through determination and malice, you persevere all the way to the bitter end just to see what would happen if you decided to go against the game's goals.
And you're met with a horrifying discovery. The "demon" in the game has finally taken control of you, your actions are now decided by it. Attempts to play the game again will only be met with a reminder that your journey, your story, is over. There is nothing you can do to stop it, you've dug your own grave and now you must lie in it.
Matthew Barker Plus you're going to have to change your pants after the end.
I got my 8-year-old cousin into this game but before I did I thought it over, because if there was a chance he would kill people I couldn't recommend the game to him. Undertale Genocide Route is a different game, easily rated PG-13.
genocide only happens if you deliberately kill EVERY monster in game though. Pretty sure no one would do that on their first run, and even if they do, I doubt they would last against undyne and sans and think that it's anything normal, but rather the game's warning to try to stop you.
ikr
@VideoGamePlayer yeah that works too
Is it wrong that I actually felt bad for Flowey?
nope
+Christian Claudio I felt bad for Asgore
+Christian Claudio I felt bad for Asgore
+Christian Claudio
No. I couldn't believe the game would ever make me feel for Flowey. But it did.
He wanted to feel, but he couldn't. Even without his soul, he tried to do the right thing. Countless times.
But time just kept resetting. He'd been forcibly injected with "determination," the will and power to live. He couldn't stop.
And it just kept repeating, over and over, until nothing mattered anymore.
And he would do ANYTHING to break this endless cycle of madness.
Flowey is pitiable indeed.
and did you notice that flowey's voice changes to asriel's voice (i think) at "Please don't kill me"?
It went from a cheerful, cute and heart warming game to this...
I REGRET NOTHING!!
Translating to how i really feel......
loading..
translation complete..
I REGRET EVERYTHING
Greetings, papyrus
oh god... am i the only one who feels really really bad for flowey
Actually, it's a little-known fact everyone in the universe who has completed a true pacifist run and is not a sadistic monster feels bad for Flowey.
So, no, you are not the only one who feels very very bad for Fowey.
+Andrew Cunningham Shhhhhhhhhhhhh~
+Andrew Cunningham I feel bad for flowey and I haven´t even beaten the pacifist run
Nope.
+Meki I haven't even went Pacifist yet and I STILL feel bad for him, that look of fear in his eyes before you do kill him...
Fuck I almost cried. ;n;
Flowey in the Pacifist Route: Kill or be killed!
Flowey in the Neutral Route: Kill or be killed!
Flowey in the Genocide Route: Please don't kill me!
YOU IDIOT.
You haven’t learned a thing.
Me: Did you forget? You used to teach me the ways of this world.
And in this world...
*I T ' S K I L L O R B E K I L L E D*
The genocide route is what bumped Undyne up to my favorite character, she stopped my genocide run in it's tracks.
update. I completed the genocide run a couple times and I LOVE chara
Flowey Fan Club How many times?
Exactly 529 times HOWEVER NO I ALWAYS DO PACFIST I NEVER HURT A MONSTERS
@@ElectricMan3444 Dust sans is coming for u
I think it's really horrible of how Asriel ends up being slaughtered by the one person he "could love". He grew up with Chara together, became siblings, and even died to go along with his/her plan and help him/her. And yet... despite everything they've been through and how Asriel loved him/her dearly, he ends up being the last victim of his former brother/sister's blade to the point where not in Flowey's voice, but his own, he begs and cries for his life. That really shows how much of a master at psychological manipulation, cruelty, and evil Chara and YOU, the player, can be. It also shows just how much of innocent, pure-hearted angels Frisk and the Pacifist players really are as well.
Pacifist
Asgore: I must kill you and take your soul
Flowey: KILL ME
Genocide
Asgore: Cant we just settle this over a pint?
Flowey: please don’t kill me
asgore doesnt want to kill you in Genocide because you grown so strong and demonic that asgore doesnt even recognize you as a monster which is why he says "What kind of monster are you?"
*pauses video*
me :*slides through and looks what comin' up*
me: *sees chara "jumpscare" face"
Me:nope
Spoob I’m literally doing that right now 😂
MMMMMMboy was it a mistake to watch this at 2:18 AM.
+HakkiriMotto I did the same thing WHY.
+HakkiriMotto Fml
same lmao I screamed
+HakkiriMotto It's worst when you're actually playing it late at night.
If you're playing in windowed mode, the window freaks out, right out of a creepypasta.
+HakkiriMotto It's worst when you're actually playing it late at night.
If you're playing in windowed mode, the window freaks out, right out of a creepypasta.
You know you’re a monster when even flowey is scared of you. To the point that he uses Asriel’s voice BEGGING you to spare him
"Since when were you the one in control?"
*Hacks game and removes any trace of Chara
Good luck with the Steam Cloud
well at least in the end he was able to feel an emotion again-
pure undistilled fear
I feel like it's an often overlooked detail, but I absolutely adore the way Chara talks.
They speak slowly, simply, directly, and coldly. But they are also polite and extremely articulate, demonstrating a vastly superior level of intelligence when compared to many of the other characters in the game, especially given the fact that they're a child.
I LIKED THAT DAMN FLOWER
+Picaboo ◕ω◕ My fav char in the entire game.
Psychos
YOU IDIOT. You haven’t learned a thing.
Same! Flowey was actually a really interesting character. But my all-time favourite is still Sans.
I am seriously glad that this game DIDN'T come out when I was younger...
That ending would scar any sane child, I don't care how brave you are.
I played this game at 11, Nothing happened to me.
Everybody nowadays doesn't even bother to do a experiment with even 3 children, they WANT to hate children because even if the children try to provide evidence that redeems them, it will get lost and they will be bullied out of the world before it even becomes popular enough for a fraction of society to accept.
This gets a lot more f’d up when you realize flowey’s “goat” face he does is probably his asriel side. When he calls you his best friend, that’s asriel talking to Chara.
Indeed.
After watching JackSepticEye erase the world I wanted to see what happened if you don't......
I regret my decision.
Same
I know what will happen but I was a bit shocked xD
@Miguel Guarneros-Montoya but Chara still kills you
@@thexman4195
Maybe. But if you choose "Do Not", you'll get that scary screen. You choose "Erase", and you gets a instakill ending.
so… in undyne's fight. she did said that alphys have warned asgore and tell him to absorb the human souls right? but why he didn't do it? dame you. goaded
*goatdad
+張皓禎 because he was disgusted( i think) of what he did, an does now, so he didn't want to have a part from it, unless breaking the barrier
+張皓禎 Maybe the message never got to Asgore. Maybe Alphys was supposed to be the messenger, but after losing Mettaton, decided being a hero wasn't worth it if she couldn't save her girlfriend or the psychological equivalent of her son. So she took one last trip to Waterfall.
Alphys never saw that fight
Nobody Likes U. Mettaton is missing and a serial killer is in the Underground. Monsters don't leave bodies. No news is bad news.
* Erase* Do Not
I will erase you Chara.*Alt + F4*GET REKT!
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@@alphamaca But if you quit the game will say NOPE.
And chara will appear again.
@@yukiko2.040 redact the safe file lol. We decide if she even shows up.
Game:Continues to switch between windowed and fullscreen
"What kind of monster are you?" Holy shit.
I am
Monster Kid
huehuehue
When even the main villain of the story is absolutely terrified of you.
+Isredel
I'm not terrified. =)
No, of course not. You're a psychopath. Fear isn't something you have in you at all. Flowey gets more screen time though, making him the main villain. You're just the behind-the-scenes villain. :p
Isredel Ah... You make a good point.
+Isredel Shhhhh. You hear that? It's the sound of the main villain.
Michael Everett Nah, I'm more of a behind-the-scenes assistant of the real villain.
The real main villain is the player.
Something I like about the genocide ending is that when you encounter asgore, the mercy button isn't even an option, which is a really good way of just telling you that you went too far and aren't above consequences. The only way you can spare the innocent monsters has been engulfed in your own wanting of power. Edit: another enthusiastic feeling that the run gives you is that you've grown so far in your own power you can't even control your own sanity, which is what the game is trying to tell you when your repeated attacks to kill flower aren't even in your control.
The power went out while watching this O_O"
Chara possessed your electricity…
+Levente “Levi1208” Dudás At the jump scare part after 4:20 ? I'm legitimately curious.
A few seconds before that, I think...
Rip
+supermarioguy987 oe noe broe.
There is a problem if even Flowey is scared of you
There's also a problem if you one-shot Asgore. In the neutral route he has crazy defense. For the Pacifist/Neutral players
wait... did this seriously come out a DAY after undertale was released?
bravo
That's one of the most tragic and sad endings ever. Not just in video games, but in general.
The fact that we literally shredded Flowey into tiny little pieces so brutally and watched him collapse and die in front of us is interesting. That's one of the most brutal killings in Undertale, and since we are following the route where Chara takes over you, I think Chara, so corrupted by the HATE that we threw upon her, wanted Flowey/Asriel to suffer.
After all, in her corrupted mind (thanks to us), she thinks Asriel betrayed them. When Flowey talks to us, he's not talking to the player. He's talking to the person inside us, Chara. He is pleading to live and tries to say that he never betrayed us.
But Chara doesnt forgive.
4:29 my heart rate in BPM after witnessing Chara’s jumpscare
was I the only one who wasn’t scared? I kinda expected it to happen.
BreannaisepicAJ (sorry for the late reply)
No, chara isn't even scary imo, I wonder why people think that she's/they're scary
@@summersky8155I think it's the sudden jump scare with that deformed face slowly getting closer
I didn’t think somebody as terrifying as flowey could be so scared of someone.
This scene implies Chara to lack a human soul, just as how Flowey lacked a soul of their own. Their consciousness just resided within Frisk's as though an undead entity.
This implies him to be more a soulless parasite at this point in time. Yes, they did plan on going to the surface to kill the humans, but by all means, they shouldn't had been able to come back. They didn't even had determination of their own; as they point out, the determination they had was actually Frisk's, just as Frisk's soul was theirs.
Chara was noted to have had sociopathic tendencjes even before he died. The only thing the Genocide route gave him was a fascination towards power, or a fixation. This is something not even Flowey would eventualy conclude; keep in mind that he merely can't feel emotional responses towards others, not he's unable to think the relevant thoughts.
Sociopaths usually have an interest, a fascination that they strive towards, something they believe to be the best of. They do this sort of thing because they want to feel the thrills of doing so. Killing gave them the thrills, so they've decided to make it their fixation.
Let me just point out, Asriel and Chara's plan was not just to get to the surface and kill some people. It wasn't even because Chara hated humans (as what's commonly believed). They did so for the purpise of gathering six differing souls in order to break the barrier. Asriel could tell how reckless and brash this plan happened to be; sociopaths do form these sort of plans all the time. When pointed out, Chara just brushed it off and asked if he doubted them. The way Asriel reacted to this statement, it implies Chara to have an overtly confident sense of self, also a characteristic of sociopaths.
This interpretation was gotten solely from observations regarding his portrayal within the game. Remember, a valid interpretation always corresponds with the original thought in some manner. Anything beyond or beneath means it's not a valid interpretation, for you're not actually seeing the original thought. Thoughts are forms of truth since they convey exactly what they are and nothing else. Nothing more, nothing less.
There's actually a lot of detail pertaining within Chara's character within this scene, as well as within the tapes, alone. These sort of details are easily missed by many due to them being subtle. You have to be incredibly observant in order to see them.
Anyone who portays Chara as anything but how the games portrays him means to go beyond or beneath his actual character. There's at least two different well known unofficial continuities that make this mistake, them being Glitchtale and Storyshift.
Asriel did say once Chara *wasn’t always the best person* meaning yeah. They wanted to free monsterkind but the way they tried doing it was kinda reckless.
Asgore in pacifist: We must fight.
Asgore in genocide: There's no need to fight.
The fact you also hear Asriel's voice is very unsettling. I like it.
Toby fox...
The only man in the world who can tie. Something as sweet as love into something as terrifying as...
*Level Of Violence*
If you think about it, flowey might have died a hero. Chara could have taken asgore’s soul and used it with frisk’s to cross the barrier. If flowey had destroyed or hid the other human souls, finishing off asgore and destroying his soul would have trapped chara underground, keeping all of humanity safe from chara. This could be why chara tries convincing you after doing a genocide to do a pacifist run, since they know their path is blocked after a genocide
1:11 He says He never betrayed you, but he made sure that Asgore's soul was gone, that way, you can't cross the barrier, that you're stuck there forever...
Humans can cross just fine wdym
@@TwistahsWorldboth races need a human and monster soul to cross the barrier
I just noticed that as Frisk was about to kill Flowey, Chara leaves flowey's body to go to Frisk's and Asriel is in control.
Then Asriel's voice appears as Chara (Frisk) is about to kill him.
"let us erase this pointless world, and move on to the next."
Move on to the next world, which is deltarune???
I Think Maybe She Means The Surface
_The next RPG you play._
Normal Asgore: I shall kill you.
Genocide Asgore: *British mode activated.*
A little Easter egg, at the very end, Flowey is so frightened of you he reverts back to being Asriel. You can see his face change and his voice changes back to when he was a goat boy....
Flowey was born by injecting determination into a flower covered in the dust of Asriel. No soul.
Chara was buried beneath a bed of golden flowers, so in hindsight, if you think about it hard enough, Chara was a part of those flowers which you fell on since they would have decomposed there and became flower food. So what's left of Chara could be essentially a "human" version of flowey, just without any physical form or soul of their own, so just the pure will to live, just like flowey. And the more violent you become the more power they gain over you. Whether this is to stop you, or just because they want to reset the timeline to get your soul so they can feel again, just like flowey wanted to, after you leave the underground, i do not know.
My theory is that when your determination came into contact with the Chara flowers they gained determination and the will to live through you, and possibly whatever essence they had left was inside of you.
As Chara mentioned however they may very well just be a demon of sorts, if not before, then now they are, which is why they were able to partially control Asriel. Even Asriel admits Chara was at least "not the best person." And to be honest, Chara being the source of your power may make sense too, feeding off of bloodshed to the point where you....well, they can at least,... literally destroy an entire timeline. Frisk may be the mass murderer, but Chara is true power. People saying you are Chara, when in fact you lose control of your own character when Chara exerts themselves is a load of bullshit.
holy shit, nator scared me, he has the vibes of that one game where flashing the room light on and off makes something appear, God I hate I can't remember it.
+Brandon Gittens Yume Nikki, thank me later.
+LunarTactician the funny thing is, i remembered the name uboa right after i left the comment but was too lazy, thanks for the game name though
+Mega “Rock” Man I knew that much, just confused myself
Chara is CHARActer :v
1:25 the fact that after beating the Pacifist route and knowing that voice tone is really...
It's...
I t W a s A s r i e l . . .
4:20 You see that, Mr. Cawthon?
*THAT'S* a jumpscare.
To be fair, part of the reason it's scary is it's deserved. We earned that jump scare.
1:30 your childhood when you see porn out of your favorite childhood show/game