Its more like a sentence: Angron: Oh im angry, see my brain got fucked by these slave owners that owned me oh im angry - turns to khorne Fulgrim: Oh look at this sword, so cool, what would happen if i put it inside ME? - Turns to slanesh Magnus: DAD THEY ARE REBELLING ops broke your biggest project, what? lion is coming to kill me cuz of horus fake orders? - Turns to titssnitch Mortarion: So everyone is dying, we are lost in the warp being slowly fucked by nurgle? oh what if i join they live? yep count me in fuck dad robbing me of my kill - Turns to nurlge
Corvus Corax has already been seen hunting his traitor brothers in the warp 🤷 he's an easy choice for a returned Primarch and definitely a different playstyle than Guilliman or El'Johnson.
New lore suggests the possibility that he’s actually not in the warp, but that he can create a psychic manifestation of himself like a astral projection that is equal or greater to him in power. He’s likely in the materium projecting that raven form into the warp.
This is a long and complex topic, but essentially, there are ways to keep the universe in a perpetual war, even with a returned Emperor. The issue is how is the Emperor returned and how does he battle against Chaos. As of right now the Emperor is in a state of near apotheosis (he isn't quite a God yet, but he is very close or needs something specific). By this I mean that the Emperor may ascend to godhood and battle the Chaos Gods directly in the warp. This will not stop Chaos (specially if a 5th god appears), but it will create an eternal war between the Chaos Gods and the Emperor within the warp, with the Gods of other Pantheons working between this war (the Tau recently got a brand spanking new god, that is slowly growing in power) and this war in the warp will influence the material realm forever. As such, the return of the Primarchs will move the fight between Chaos and the Imperium to new heights, but this will happen in between many other uprisings. The Tyranid invasion is so big, even Chaos has to fight it, if it is to survive and these will be recurring events. The Orks may get PrimeOrks to battle the Primarchs, with Ghazghull being the first, creating a new beast (an Ork being so powerful it nearly brought the Imperium down). The Necrons will fully awaken and this will be bad for everyone. The Tau will continue to grow in strength and carve out a significant part of the galaxy, from which they will deal devastating incursions to all factions. And again the battle between the Imperium and Chaos will escalate as the Primarchs return on either side. That being said, the next traitor Primarch is all but confirmed to be Fulgrim at the end of 10th, followed closely by Leman Russ in 11th. After that it gets very murky, but Sanguinius (if he is to return at all) will be one of the later ones and probably only once Abbaddon poses a sufficient threat to even the scales against Sanguinius.
I agree with you that Fulgrim should be the next logical Primarch to appear in the side of Chaos. Personally as a Iron Warrior fan, i would love a Demon Perturabo, but he's much less famous than Fulgrim. I hope Sanguinius does not come back, it would appears more of a selling plot than an organically created story. Some character's death are so impactful that they should remain dead to not lesser the stakes of the plot. I root for Vulkan to come back, but your guess makes much more sense.
Fulgrim might not appear on the Chaos side. There's evidence he was daemonically possessed, and when Bile cloned him, the clone was actually remorseful of "his" actions, suggesting the daemon and not the Primarch was in the driving seat throughout the Heresy. It could be fun to see both Fulgrim and the daemon return for a showdown, no?
This is for sure my new favorite channel. I’ve just started getting into warhammer this year and have been wanting some one to explain the two missing primarchs thank you🤙🏼
As a new Warhammer fan (Last year) I'm really interested in Vashtorr and what he will become. Hope they don't just kill him off for a Primarch fight or something.
I absolutely loved it man. Gimmi the primarchs. I'd love ro see Gullimans reaction to seeing the three primarchs return. Keep them up! Another great video
Excellent take. Your narration great, keep it going. Thought i had stumbled upon another huge 40k channel I had missed then saw your channel was reasonably new - it will kick off in no time I'm sure
Good stuff brother ! Keep them coming you will have a massive following in no time. I thought I had seen every piece of 40k artwork but you have actually shown me a few I haven’t seen. That by itself is impressive. I do not play the table top game , but I am heavily into the lore. The lore itself is enough in it self , I find it more enjoyable then the actual game. Thank you for sharing ! A fan from Texas.
I like the theory that the war of the false primarch was actually one of the lost 2 coming back only to be killed by the Imperium due to mistaken identity.
I dont think sanguinius is the strongest indivitual entity in 40k. If the silent king used his whole arsenal of weapons he wouldn't have the tools to or understanding of his enemies weapons to deal with it. He's definitly strong enough to take on TWO demon primarchs and win but not without being close to death. He gets a lot of hype becasue he took on a bloodthirster, angron and horus but that was not all at the same time.
May the glorious day come for when Sanguinius returns home and stands with us for it is prophecised he will return at the imperiums darkest day. Brothers take heart we are the blood we are his sons we are his faithful
So this is my first dip into WH40K. Can anyone suggest a good entry point/book to the lore. I have no idea what the difference is between a blood angle, space marine, or a primach. It all looks legit and I am super interested. Cheers
start with the 30k books, the Horus Heresy, where you see the fateful events that lead up to the schism, the Chaos Space Marines, the current state of the Emperor, etc. The first book is Horus Rising, by Dan Abnett. You'll see his name a lot, he's one of the most respected authors the franchise has to offer. Also don't be afraid to dive into the lore UA-cam channels just like Josh's here, these lore channels have a great way of explaining stuff from the books.
Start with the Eisenhorn Omnibus, this will give a good idea of how the world of 40K works and the main themes. The 30K books are the prequels but they start at all cylinders, throwing at you a bunch of stuff that they assume you already know about the lore, so it's possible to start with Horus Heresy but expect a few head scratchers and a few lexicanum searches (the 40K wiki) to get what they are talking about...
There's a guy on UA-cam named Bricky who has a video of most factions and another video of all the space marine legions. Not a bad start. As already stated the Eisenhorn trilogy is a good start bookwise. He's an inquisitor so it's more a detective story so no overwhelming with confusing lore you don't understand. Also the audiobooks are good.
Remember when the Thunder Warriors were the Emperor’s main army, they had Primarch as well, Primarch killing Primarch might just be when the Thunder Warriors were taken out
You know what. That's a really really GREAT point. I have noticed a massive influx of new fans of 40k recently. I always just thought maybe it just got picked up on tiktok as a trend. But it's growing instead of falling off after the last 2 years... But that's a chicken and the egg issue. So I think youre right. The flocks of new fans prob came from Disney controlled IP. Great insight
There is a perfect clone of Fulgrim in trazyn the infinite’s collection and it is not like the failed clone of Horus, it actually has the soul of Fulgrim.
@@John-jc3ty Fulgrim was daemonically possessed at one point and it's possible that the "Fulgrim" in Eye of Terror has more of the daemon than the original Fulgrim in him.
@John-jc3ty there's a theory that demon primarchs have their souls kept buy the God that granted them ascension into greater demons. That way the clone of Fullgrim had a greater claim on the soul of Fullgrim than demon Fullgrim. So the soul left the warp and entered the clone. He has all the mojo that Primarchs have with emperor's children having a desire to kneel when seeing him and obey him.
Y'all are talkin a lot about Fulgrim and Sanguinius (who should not come back, ever) but you're forgetting another option: Jaghatai Khan. The White Scars are already kind of infamous in universe and in the fandom for being forgotten about, and the Khan is most assuredly not dead. It would be a perfect fit for his character to just show up at a pitched battle coming in at full burn out of a warp translation and saving the day. GW probably won't do this though because the White Scars aren't super popular and *money* matters more than narrative.
What if we find out that Sanguinius killed Horus while in the black rage, that's what triggered all his sons into the black rage, and he's the one who injured the emporer so badly and the emporer killed him.
Someone who’s never played and just likes the play throughs and lore. It sounds like sanguineous is a mirror of the emperor. His body sounds like a vessel for the emperor’s soul to fuse with and maybe sanguineous as not just a physical being but just a state of soul in reality could be the true predecessor to the emperor if anything were to actually happen to him. Maybe on a conscious level we can’t understand the emperor is imprinting his knowledge and power into sanguineous so no matter what happens to either of the two. There will always be that divine power over everything, and maybe somehow with a physical body being in a time stasis. It allows sanguines’s spirit to travel and learn while the body again is a vessel for him to intervene if need be or for the emperor to take over as I said previously. I guess like a Jesus type of figure.
Guilliman and Lion back with The Imperium he's the order I would bring the rest back and how I would do it: 1. Clone Fulgrim A bit if admin for him but you can have his return as part of a 4 part series of books. Book 1 We know he is with Trayzn in his museum at present so my idea would be for The museum to be attacked by a hive fleet that want to get to all the incredibly diverse DNA Trayzn has collected over the millenia. As his forces are sloely beaten and his museum gets trashed Trayzn releases all the Astartes he has and allows Clonegrim to lead them leading to the destruction of the hive fleet but so his escape with the biggest force of Astartes from all 18 legions together in a giant armada Book 2 Before the armada encounter anyone they begin to implode as astartes from all 18 legions are present and some were captured after the heresy leading to a mini civil war where Clonegrim has to try and bring them back together and stop the rot before everything falls apart eventually defeating a powerful Slaanesh demon and its forces. Book 3 With all that remain swearing loyalty to the Emperor and Clonegrim they make their way to Imperial Space where they come across a distress call from a system with a firge world under attack from a massive new waaaagh. Knowing he cannot just pass by he leads his armada into another war. Book 4 With news of Clonegrim and his still massive force spreading across the Imperium his armada races against to clock to try and reach Guilliman to try and not only prove his loyalty but to redeem himself in the eyes of one of his brother but Snakegrim has also heard and is in hot pursuit leading to a rematch showdown between Guilliman, clonegrim and Snakegrim where Guilliman is saved by clonegrim and following there victory they go to Terra where clonegrim is re-introduced into the Imperium under strict ruling of Guilliman with his armada remaining with him as they become a new deadly strike force for the imperium.
2. Omegon Book 1 Omegon and his loyalist Alpha Legion astartes discover a chaos plot to kill The Lion. He manages to warn Lion but in the process is caught doing it with Khorne demanding his head. Lion ends up attacking the massive Khorne army sent to kill Omegon and rather than disapearing back into the shadows he helps Lion and submits to the 1st legion commander. Book 2 Omegon and his legionaires are in custody while Lion decides what to do but the Lions protected systems all start going crazy as chaos Alpha legion forces infiltrate planets leading to Omegon being temporarly released to help Lion restore order. Omegon reveals a secret that Dorn is still alive in stasis but was lost adrift in the warp. Book 3 Despite some serious mistrust Lion sends Omegon to find the stasis pod of Dorn so he can be revived. Omegon crosses the rift but gets attacked by a Tzeentch army as Tzeentch wants to capture Omegon and use him as his puppet alongside Magnus. Banishing the army they continue the almost impossible task of finding Dorn as secretly as they can.
3. Corax Book 1 Corax re-enters real space to pursue Kor Phaeron and a Word Bearers cult who are plotting open up a warp portal on a planet and summon an ancient demon leading to Corax revealing his demonic side to Imperial forces. Book 2 Corax finds out a clone of Fulgrim has been welcomed back into and begins to hunt him down whilst he himself is being pursued by members of the Raven Guard and Inquisition. Finding Snakegrim instead the loyalists have to band together to gain a victory. Book 3 Re-uniting with his sons Corax leads them on a crusade to hunt chaos but receives a cryptic message from The Emperor leading him to cross the rift just in time to help Dante and the blood angels from a rampaging Angron.
Can you please add a subscriber goal for a fan fiction about inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Cluseau and his acolyte Anakin Watson Fong's tragic fall to the temptation of the blood soaked sands of Korn?
I found Warhammer from star wars being kinda crappy I get my space opera fix from Warhammer now so I'm kinda thankful star wars is crap in a messed up way I guess idk I wish it was better
I'm a new fan and my main issue with Warhammer 40k is how the franchise tries to monopolies the art and title, how long has this been an issue?? There act like there Nintendo...
He will come back coz you know how popular blood angels are bro. Do you know how much money GW would rake in by having a sanguinius primarch model for all blood angels players to buy. Not to mention the fan base that he has everyone loves the golden hawk boy. Dont underestimate Gw's greed bro they will have sanguinius return and they will make a huge profit from it.
@@imperialguardsmen7205 While the blangels are very popular it is also important to note that the sacrifice of their primarch is very much ingrained into the mythos of the chapter and it's successors. While the Iron Hands also saw their primarch get killed, they still didn't get a massive psychological injury ingrained into the geneseed the way the blood angels did.
Yet another white scar shaft. Has GW given any incentive to bring Jaghatai back? He wouldn't have been a good starter choice to lead the imperium, but now that Gil and Lion are back, he'd be a cool addition! I am extremely biased for the Khan. I just want him to matter.
Sorry, but this explanation of the 2 "missing" Primarchs is pretty wrong. For starters, they were not created "flawed" compared to their brothers, there´s a real life reason for their existance. The 2 "lost Primarchs" and their Legions are a remnant from the early days of Warhammer, when Games Workshop didn´t had fully developed the lore and they wanted for players to be able to create their own "homebrew" Primarchs/Legions. So, they made one loyalist & one traitor Primarch/ Legion, that you as a player could create, complete with personality/ history etc. After a couple of years, they retconned the lore of the Horus Heresy and came up with the concept of successor chapters & Chaos warbands, so that the players could make their homebrew chapters/warbands. GW retcons stuff all the time, just recently they brought back the Squats under the new name "Leagues of Votan". So, the "missing Primarchs" concept was introduced to explain it in-universe. There´s no evidence in the lore that Primarch Nr. 2 was killed & Nr.11 was imprisoned, that´s just one of countless fan theories. "Subject 11" could be anybody, we simply have no idea. Another fan theory states, that both "missing Primarchs" were killed during the Rangdang Wars, after being mindcontrolled and turned against the Imperium. ( The Rangdang were an advanced Xenos empire, that fought the Imperium during the Great Crusade and almost won. Besides large fleets of advanced battleships, the Rangdang had mind control powers & could enslave entire populations of planets, which they used for slave labour or as slave soldiers. Maybe they managed to mindcontrol one or both of the "missing Primarchs". ) Another theory says, they rebelled against the Emperor, early during the Great Crusade, before all Primarchs were found & the Emperor had to take them out. He then erased them from all Imperial archives, in order to keep this a secret from the other Primarchs after he found them and prevent something like this to happen again. Nobody really knows and probably won´t ever find out...
Wow. You wrote a whole lot of crap. Rick Priestly himself clarified he thought having 2 primarchs being a mystery was just a cool idea and GW has kept that up all these decades later. Do some research before spewing nonsense on UA-cam.
There was a 'proto-primarch' before Sanguinius, before the Lion. He was Sanguinius without any restraints. He would have ended the Rangdan Xenocides before the 2nd and 11th legions were destroyed, but he was too dangerous. He would have destroyed every human, too.
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We need hour long lore videos covering each of the primarchs and how they became daemons
Its more like a sentence:
Angron: Oh im angry, see my brain got fucked by these slave owners that owned me oh im angry - turns to khorne
Fulgrim: Oh look at this sword, so cool, what would happen if i put it inside ME? - Turns to slanesh
Magnus: DAD THEY ARE REBELLING ops broke your biggest project, what? lion is coming to kill me cuz of horus fake orders? - Turns to titssnitch
Mortarion: So everyone is dying, we are lost in the warp being slowly fucked by nurgle? oh what if i join they live? yep count me in fuck dad robbing me of my kill - Turns to nurlge
Dude come back. These videos are amazing for newcomers to the series.
Corvus Corax has already been seen hunting his traitor brothers in the warp 🤷 he's an easy choice for a returned Primarch and definitely a different playstyle than Guilliman or El'Johnson.
New lore suggests the possibility that he’s actually not in the warp, but that he can create a psychic manifestation of himself like a astral projection that is equal or greater to him in power. He’s likely in the materium projecting that raven form into the warp.
@@Ryanfinder226 what's the lore from? Would love to read it
I think it would be a bit out of place. He seems like he could pop up at any moment
This is a long and complex topic, but essentially, there are ways to keep the universe in a perpetual war, even with a returned Emperor.
The issue is how is the Emperor returned and how does he battle against Chaos.
As of right now the Emperor is in a state of near apotheosis (he isn't quite a God yet, but he is very close or needs something specific). By this I mean that the Emperor may ascend to godhood and battle the Chaos Gods directly in the warp.
This will not stop Chaos (specially if a 5th god appears), but it will create an eternal war between the Chaos Gods and the Emperor within the warp, with the Gods of other Pantheons working between this war (the Tau recently got a brand spanking new god, that is slowly growing in power) and this war in the warp will influence the material realm forever.
As such, the return of the Primarchs will move the fight between Chaos and the Imperium to new heights, but this will happen in between many other uprisings.
The Tyranid invasion is so big, even Chaos has to fight it, if it is to survive and these will be recurring events.
The Orks may get PrimeOrks to battle the Primarchs, with Ghazghull being the first, creating a new beast (an Ork being so powerful it nearly brought the Imperium down).
The Necrons will fully awaken and this will be bad for everyone.
The Tau will continue to grow in strength and carve out a significant part of the galaxy, from which they will deal devastating incursions to all factions.
And again the battle between the Imperium and Chaos will escalate as the Primarchs return on either side.
That being said, the next traitor Primarch is all but confirmed to be Fulgrim at the end of 10th, followed closely by Leman Russ in 11th.
After that it gets very murky, but Sanguinius (if he is to return at all) will be one of the later ones and probably only once Abbaddon poses a sufficient threat to even the scales against Sanguinius.
Idk in the last book the emperor did chose to not ascend, he will probly just burst his ass from being a batery for 10k years
Josh this is recommended by my algorithm randomly. Get back on it bro. So many people are playing space marine
I am evidence of this being true, sm2 has really peaked my interest in wh lore
I just have a really strong gut feeling that either Russ or Vulcan are going to be the next primarch to Return.
Rogal dorn
I got a feeling the Emperor's Lightening Claw is going to be put on Rogal Dorn's hand (the missing one)
@@rileyv685 funny to think how the emperor named his son after a tank
@@Bakersmanbakemeacake Isn't it the opposite, the tank was named after Dorn
I agree with you that Fulgrim should be the next logical Primarch to appear in the side of Chaos. Personally as a Iron Warrior fan, i would love a Demon Perturabo, but he's much less famous than Fulgrim.
I hope Sanguinius does not come back, it would appears more of a selling plot than an organically created story. Some character's death are so impactful that they should remain dead to not lesser the stakes of the plot. I root for Vulkan to come back, but your guess makes much more sense.
Fulgrim might not appear on the Chaos side. There's evidence he was daemonically possessed, and when Bile cloned him, the clone was actually remorseful of "his" actions, suggesting the daemon and not the Primarch was in the driving seat throughout the Heresy. It could be fun to see both Fulgrim and the daemon return for a showdown, no?
Sanguinius can return but it would need to be after all of the others and horus would need to return for it to even have any narrative weight.
@@L0rd0fTh3N3rdzhorus can't return. Sanguinius is in the warp, or his soul is. He's spoken to Dante in visions.
@@chadwhitfield6946 at this point there is very little that can't happen.
This is for sure my new favorite channel. I’ve just started getting into warhammer this year and have been wanting some one to explain the two missing primarchs thank you🤙🏼
Who else found this channel after playing Warhammer Space Marine 2 recently 😅
Bro just gave up
Taken by the warp
quite sad actually, the videos are really good
Bro just got taken by the warp
As a new Warhammer fan (Last year) I'm really interested in Vashtorr and what he will become. Hope they don't just kill him off for a Primarch fight or something.
Wow. Your videos are so good and I'm new to 40k. Definitely hope you start doing videos again
Dude where did you go?
Looks like this channel is doa. What happened to the content?
Another clean vid!!!!! Awesome....
I absolutely loved it man. Gimmi the primarchs. I'd love ro see Gullimans reaction to seeing the three primarchs return. Keep them up! Another great video
Excellent take. Your narration great, keep it going. Thought i had stumbled upon another huge 40k channel I had missed then saw your channel was reasonably new - it will kick off in no time I'm sure
Come back bro. Your videos have helped and really getting into this lore
Bro said this universe is too complicated, I’m out ☠️.
Live drop let's go, have been enjoying you doing warhammer vids my man 🎉
Awesome vid! The art really brings it alive.
Good stuff brother ! Keep them coming you will have a massive following in no time. I thought I had seen every piece of 40k artwork but you have actually shown me a few I haven’t seen. That by itself is impressive. I do not play the table top game , but I am heavily into the lore. The lore itself is enough in it self , I find it more enjoyable then the actual game. Thank you for sharing ! A fan from Texas.
Josh I need an hour or 2 long episodic lore video somewhat like comic explained does but wore hammer, so I can listen while I paint many figs👀😮💨
U honestly explain warhammer lore the best please come back
Thank you for flashing the name of the primarchs on screen, it really helps remembering their names
I like the theory that the war of the false primarch was actually one of the lost 2 coming back only to be killed by the Imperium due to mistaken identity.
It’d be cool if the Carcharadons are actually the sons of the 2nd or 11th primarch
Can we get a recent/current lore video? Who’s alive? What conflicts are they involved in
dope!
Vulkan and Rogal Dorn.
I dont think sanguinius is the strongest indivitual entity in 40k. If the silent king used his whole arsenal of weapons he wouldn't have the tools to or understanding of his enemies weapons to deal with it. He's definitly strong enough to take on TWO demon primarchs and win but not without being close to death. He gets a lot of hype becasue he took on a bloodthirster, angron and horus but that was not all at the same time.
Just blow up the Galaxy like what you did with the Olde Worlde already!
Rogal Dorn, let's GO!
May the glorious day come for when Sanguinius returns home and stands with us for it is prophecised he will return at the imperiums darkest day. Brothers take heart we are the blood we are his sons we are his faithful
FOR SANGUINIUS!!! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
I like your editing
So this is my first dip into WH40K. Can anyone suggest a good entry point/book to the lore. I have no idea what the difference is between a blood angle, space marine, or a primach. It all looks legit and I am super interested. Cheers
start with the 30k books, the Horus Heresy, where you see the fateful events that lead up to the schism, the Chaos Space Marines, the current state of the Emperor, etc. The first book is Horus Rising, by Dan Abnett. You'll see his name a lot, he's one of the most respected authors the franchise has to offer. Also don't be afraid to dive into the lore UA-cam channels just like Josh's here, these lore channels have a great way of explaining stuff from the books.
Start with the Eisenhorn Omnibus, this will give a good idea of how the world of 40K works and the main themes. The 30K books are the prequels but they start at all cylinders, throwing at you a bunch of stuff that they assume you already know about the lore, so it's possible to start with Horus Heresy but expect a few head scratchers and a few lexicanum searches (the 40K wiki) to get what they are talking about...
There's a guy on UA-cam named Bricky who has a video of most factions and another video of all the space marine legions. Not a bad start. As already stated the Eisenhorn trilogy is a good start bookwise. He's an inquisitor so it's more a detective story so no overwhelming with confusing lore you don't understand. Also the audiobooks are good.
Remember when the Thunder Warriors were the Emperor’s main army, they had Primarch as well, Primarch killing Primarch might just be when the Thunder Warriors were taken out
You know what. That's a really really GREAT point. I have noticed a massive influx of new fans of 40k recently. I always just thought maybe it just got picked up on tiktok as a trend. But it's growing instead of falling off after the last 2 years...
But that's a chicken and the egg issue. So I think youre right. The flocks of new fans prob came from Disney controlled IP. Great insight
Great vid, but what about my boi Vulkan and the Salamanders? Need some love for that Bad ass Perpetual!
What books should I get into boys ? I want to know what stories he is talking about that made this so popular . Horus ?
There is a perfect clone of Fulgrim in trazyn the infinite’s collection and it is not like the failed clone of Horus, it actually has the soul of Fulgrim.
Based trazyn lol
then fulgrim himself is soulless?
@@John-jc3ty Fulgrim was daemonically possessed at one point and it's possible that the "Fulgrim" in Eye of Terror has more of the daemon than the original Fulgrim in him.
@John-jc3ty there's a theory that demon primarchs have their souls kept buy the God that granted them ascension into greater demons. That way the clone of Fullgrim had a greater claim on the soul of Fullgrim than demon Fullgrim. So the soul left the warp and entered the clone. He has all the mojo that Primarchs have with emperor's children having a desire to kneel when seeing him and obey him.
COME BACK BROTHER
These have been actually good, much better than your star wars takes.
I literally just got into warhammer like an hour ago and I NEED YOUR HELP
Y'all are talkin a lot about Fulgrim and Sanguinius (who should not come back, ever) but you're forgetting another option: Jaghatai Khan. The White Scars are already kind of infamous in universe and in the fandom for being forgotten about, and the Khan is most assuredly not dead. It would be a perfect fit for his character to just show up at a pitched battle coming in at full burn out of a warp translation and saving the day. GW probably won't do this though because the White Scars aren't super popular and *money* matters more than narrative.
What if we find out that Sanguinius killed Horus while in the black rage, that's what triggered all his sons into the black rage, and he's the one who injured the emporer so badly and the emporer killed him.
Primarchs sound pretty sicc.
🤘🏿NERDVENGE….wait, do we do that here?🤔🤔
Dug the live drop, keep up the good work!
Did you Know. BLIZZARD wanted to create A warhammer MMO, but GamesWorkshop Said no. And thats how Warcraft started. 😊
That's how starcraft started, not warcraft, lol
Josh you ever play Dawn of War?
Someone who’s never played and just likes the play throughs and lore. It sounds like sanguineous is a mirror of the emperor. His body sounds like a vessel for the emperor’s soul to fuse with and maybe sanguineous as not just a physical being but just a state of soul in reality could be the true predecessor to the emperor if anything were to actually happen to him. Maybe on a conscious level we can’t understand the emperor is imprinting his knowledge and power into sanguineous so no matter what happens to either of the two. There will always be that divine power over everything, and maybe somehow with a physical body being in a time stasis. It allows sanguines’s spirit to travel and learn while the body again is a vessel for him to intervene if need be or for the emperor to take over as I said previously. I guess like a Jesus type of figure.
Looks like after the lore change in The End and the Death III - ALL of them - including Horus can come back.
Sanguinias wouldn’t be the strong being in 40K, the best/strongest combatant maybe but he’s can’t affect more than stuff in his general area
Guilliman and Lion back with The Imperium he's the order I would bring the rest back and how I would do it:
1. Clone Fulgrim
A bit if admin for him but you can have his return as part of a 4 part series of books.
Book 1
We know he is with Trayzn in his museum at present so my idea would be for The museum to be attacked by a hive fleet that want to get to all the incredibly diverse DNA Trayzn has collected over the millenia. As his forces are sloely beaten and his museum gets trashed Trayzn releases all the Astartes he has and allows Clonegrim to lead them leading to the destruction of the hive fleet but so his escape with the biggest force of Astartes from all 18 legions together in a giant armada
Book 2
Before the armada encounter anyone they begin to implode as astartes from all 18 legions are present and some were captured after the heresy leading to a mini civil war where Clonegrim has to try and bring them back together and stop the rot before everything falls apart eventually defeating a powerful Slaanesh demon and its forces.
Book 3
With all that remain swearing loyalty to the Emperor and Clonegrim they make their way to Imperial Space where they come across a distress call from a system with a firge world under attack from a massive new waaaagh. Knowing he cannot just pass by he leads his armada into another war.
Book 4
With news of Clonegrim and his still massive force spreading across the Imperium his armada races against to clock to try and reach Guilliman to try and not only prove his loyalty but to redeem himself in the eyes of one of his brother but Snakegrim has also heard and is in hot pursuit leading to a rematch showdown between Guilliman, clonegrim and Snakegrim where Guilliman is saved by clonegrim and following there victory they go to Terra where clonegrim is re-introduced into the Imperium under strict ruling of Guilliman with his armada remaining with him as they become a new deadly strike force for the imperium.
2. Omegon
Book 1
Omegon and his loyalist Alpha Legion astartes discover a chaos plot to kill The Lion. He manages to warn Lion but in the process is caught doing it with Khorne demanding his head. Lion ends up attacking the massive Khorne army sent to kill Omegon and rather than disapearing back into the shadows he helps Lion and submits to the 1st legion commander.
Book 2
Omegon and his legionaires are in custody while Lion decides what to do but the Lions protected systems all start going crazy as chaos Alpha legion forces infiltrate planets leading to Omegon being temporarly released to help Lion restore order. Omegon reveals a secret that Dorn is still alive in stasis but was lost adrift in the warp.
Book 3
Despite some serious mistrust Lion sends Omegon to find the stasis pod of Dorn so he can be revived. Omegon crosses the rift but gets attacked by a Tzeentch army as Tzeentch wants to capture Omegon and use him as his puppet alongside Magnus. Banishing the army they continue the almost impossible task of finding Dorn as secretly as they can.
3. Corax
Book 1
Corax re-enters real space to pursue Kor Phaeron and a Word Bearers cult who are plotting open up a warp portal on a planet and summon an ancient demon leading to Corax revealing his demonic side to Imperial forces.
Book 2
Corax finds out a clone of Fulgrim has been welcomed back into and begins to hunt him down whilst he himself is being pursued by members of the Raven Guard and Inquisition. Finding Snakegrim instead the loyalists have to band together to gain a victory.
Book 3
Re-uniting with his sons Corax leads them on a crusade to hunt chaos but receives a cryptic message from The Emperor leading him to cross the rift just in time to help Dante and the blood angels from a rampaging Angron.
Sanguinius is dead. Noone is expecting him to turn up.
any other meaning for a goblet of blood?
Hail Lorgar!
Pfft the next 4 to returm will be alpharious, Ormegon as alpharious, alpharious, son alpharious, and the primarch artist formly known as alpharious
Mate you should know that end and death part 3 has retconned the death of Horus,
Also the part 1 end is quite abrupt
Just resurrect Sanguinius so we can get it popping!!
im still hoping for a mortarion and Magnus redemption arc
Get your ass back here. Your top tier bruh
For the algo!!!!
Another slapper
Hola señor Yosh do you play warhammer Tacticus on iPhone Nd or pc ?
Can you please add a subscriber goal for a fan fiction about inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Cluseau and his acolyte Anakin Watson Fong's tragic fall to the temptation of the blood soaked sands of Korn?
I found Warhammer from star wars being kinda crappy I get my space opera fix from Warhammer now so I'm kinda thankful star wars is crap in a messed up way I guess idk I wish it was better
Dude!!! Where are you????
In all this guys videos he says he’s a “Marvel fan” but he really just seems like an MCU fan.
I'm a new fan and my main issue with Warhammer 40k is how the franchise tries to monopolies the art and title, how long has this been an issue?? There act like there Nintendo...
Bro we’re new video??!?!?
…Candelabra…?
I really hope Sangingius doesn't come back! His sacrifice would be undone and it would ruin a lot with the narrative!
I totally agree👍!
He will come back coz you know how popular blood angels are bro. Do you know how much money GW would rake in by having a sanguinius primarch model for all blood angels players to buy. Not to mention the fan base that he has everyone loves the golden hawk boy. Dont underestimate Gw's greed bro they will have sanguinius return and they will make a huge profit from it.
@@imperialguardsmen7205 While the blangels are very popular it is also important to note that the sacrifice of their primarch is very much ingrained into the mythos of the chapter and it's successors. While the Iron Hands also saw their primarch get killed, they still didn't get a massive psychological injury ingrained into the geneseed the way the blood angels did.
What? No Vulcan???
Me no have brain this big for enough 😵😵😵
Yet another white scar shaft. Has GW given any incentive to bring Jaghatai back? He wouldn't have been a good starter choice to lead the imperium, but now that Gil and Lion are back, he'd be a cool addition! I am extremely biased for the Khan. I just want him to matter.
Yeah easy for Vulcan and russ to come back
Sorry, but this explanation of the 2 "missing" Primarchs is pretty wrong.
For starters, they were not created "flawed" compared to their brothers, there´s a real life reason for their existance.
The 2 "lost Primarchs" and their Legions are a remnant from the early days of Warhammer, when Games Workshop didn´t had fully developed the lore and they wanted for players to be able to create their own "homebrew" Primarchs/Legions.
So, they made one loyalist & one traitor Primarch/ Legion, that you as a player could create, complete with personality/ history etc.
After a couple of years, they retconned the lore of the Horus Heresy and came up with the concept of successor chapters & Chaos warbands, so that the players could make their homebrew chapters/warbands. GW retcons stuff all the time, just recently they brought back the Squats under the new name "Leagues of Votan".
So, the "missing Primarchs" concept was introduced to explain it in-universe.
There´s no evidence in the lore that Primarch Nr. 2 was killed & Nr.11 was imprisoned, that´s just one of countless fan theories. "Subject 11" could be anybody, we simply have no idea.
Another fan theory states, that both "missing Primarchs" were killed during the Rangdang Wars, after being mindcontrolled and turned against the Imperium. ( The Rangdang were an advanced Xenos empire, that fought the Imperium during the Great Crusade and almost won. Besides large fleets of advanced battleships, the Rangdang had mind control powers & could enslave entire populations of planets, which they used for slave labour or as slave soldiers. Maybe they managed to mindcontrol one or both of the "missing Primarchs". )
Another theory says, they rebelled against the Emperor, early during the Great Crusade, before all Primarchs were found & the Emperor had to take them out. He then erased them from all Imperial archives, in order to keep this a secret from the other Primarchs after he found them and prevent something like this to happen again.
Nobody really knows and probably won´t ever find out...
Yeah, if they were flawed from the start I doubt they would have kept their space marines and just give them to the ultramarines.
Wow. You wrote a whole lot of crap. Rick Priestly himself clarified he thought having 2 primarchs being a mystery was just a cool idea and GW has kept that up all these decades later. Do some research before spewing nonsense on UA-cam.
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All you need to know is magnus did nothing wrong
Look forward to hearing about Unity failing. Josh is the normiest normie: who showed his true colors these past months.
There was a 'proto-primarch' before Sanguinius, before the Lion.
He was Sanguinius without any restraints. He would have ended the Rangdan Xenocides before the 2nd and 11th legions were destroyed, but he was too dangerous. He would have destroyed every human, too.
Is this channel dead now?
Ya kinda cheapened Warhammer 40k already just by mentioning Marvel in the same sentence.
oh please, the Brood existed before Tyranids.
Lfg
First😂
Return of the Lion was boring besides the end times should of kicked in after The Fall Of Caidia the Primarus Marines killed the lore it is shit now!