So You Want Better Stronger Scented Candles? (Don't Overthink Hot Throw)
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- We all know the important of a strong scented candle. Hot throw is king in the world of candles. But what makes a strong scented candle, or... what affects how well we smell a candle? What should a candle maker focus on to improve hot throw?
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Now this is hands down the best advise and I wish it was out there sooner... Choose good quality fragrances but choose the ones you like, NO OVERTHINKING... Your buyers will dictate which one you'll keep in your candle line anyways... Embrace your results as lessons and keep moving forward. Put your product in people's hands because you will be surprised at the amount of thigs we worry about and people don't even notice. Do use the feedback and slowly improve over time.
Great job as always Wade!
Great advice. And thank you!
👍So true more isn’t always better. Some scent oils are not good even though they’re sold for candles. One big candle we made had lots of scent oil but it just made the candle wax burn up quicker in a kind of tunnel down the center. We make them just for us but it’s so disappointing.
@@BlackTieBarn hey bother, what company you recommend for quality fragrance oil? I buy things from Candle science.
Good advise. What's a great soy?
What is the best fragrance brand you recommend please?
1. Diameter of the jar, the more the better.
2. The right wick and its size.
3. Type of wax
4. Fragrance oil quality
5. Fragrance load, recommend size of the room.
6. Location where you burn the candle
7. Process consistency
8. Cure time.
I can’t remember how many waxes I went through over the years of learning how to pour a candle I would buy. Each one was better than the one before. I’ve finally found the perfect wax that is luxurious, so very easy to work with, economical and the supplier is close to my state. I’ve found GEMS of FO from several suppliers, however I only have a few fragrances that are not blends. I LOVE blending fragrances and I will probably have fragrances that won’t smell like other chandlers candles. I absolutely document the percentages and fragrances of each oil I use. I perform four different tests which take place over a two week period and learn something from each test and note anything that stands out. Thank you for taking the time to record this video, Wade! This is a great video too!
No problem at all. Thanks for being here and commenting!
What's the wax? Thx
I have not came across anyone as detailed and thorough as you are. Thank you for this valuable information
Thanks for the advice. I greatly appreciate it. I'm new to candle making, and I'm so excited to my new experience with this. I'm going to sell , make a business. I really learned some important facts from you. So thank you.
So happy and relieved I came across this video. Constantly working to improve the candles and this video helps a ton! Thank you
Great! happy to hear that
Wade, this may have just been one of the most informative videos of yours I have seen. I am stoked to get going on my candle making journey!!
Thanks Jason! Glad you are here!
I love this video! Well, I enjoy all of your videos. They are so helpful and encouraging.
Thanks Michelle! :)
Your videos are always appreciated. You're an asset. God bless you
So nice of you
Thank you so much Wade, I have watched almost every video you have lol I have learned so much from you. I am new and launching 2 testing candles in March wish me luck. Be on the lookout for my website in the future.
Fantastic!
I am glad i have come across your channel. Recently plunged into candle making, and have many doubts. Your videos give great insight.
Thanks so much Sweta!
So glad I came across your video!! Great tips Wade!!!
Thanks Nicolena for being here! :)
I am anxiously awaiting your next CB video.
Thank you, Wade. Great info as always. Love from Pretoria, South Africa.
Awesome. Thanks so much
Thank you Wade for this very informative video. I appreciate you, thank you for sharing. That was the best video I've seen so far.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for the tips. I just started my candle business❤
Black Tie Barn, Thank you for generously sharing your professional wisdom, experience, knowledge. You are absolutely the best on UA-cam instruction. Mucho Gracias
Thanks so much
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It’s helpful. 👏
Thank you for this. Very helpful!!😃
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Thank you for the tip about crafty base
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Fantastic video as always! 🖤👍🏻
Thanks rebecca!
Your one of the most humble individual that helps others. I wish I knew what video to start with😂
Thanks so mucha
I learned so much from this❤️ thank you so much ❤️
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This is so fun and helpful thanks
❤️ I TRULY THANK YOU!!!!!
You're welcome.:)
Ok so I've gotten about 1/8th thru your vid and know your good! So going to start watching all your vids and the rest on this one. Thank you
Thanks so much Pammie! :)
Hello Wade! Thank you so much for sharing. I truly enjoy your videos. I'm in the process of testing using the wooden wicks. You've raised a very great point about the location/environment, "where you burn the candle(s)", and how that may contribute to scent throw.
Thanks again!
You're welcome! :)
Fantastic information. I love candle and product making and very much enjoyed your input.
Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience to help others in their candle making endeavors.
It took me years to understand that candle making isn’t just melting and pouring.
There are a myriad of variables to consider.
We can make the experience so much more difficult by not knowing basic terminology and properties.
Yummmm. I love cake. I mean candles.
(Both).
Thankyou I've learned so much from you yes I'm picky with fragrance I go with what smells amazing scents that will fill out the best
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Gosh your videos are perfect! Lol.. I keep coming back to your videos, you have the best candle videos on UA-cam.
Thanks so much and thanks for continuing to come back! :)
My pleasure 🥰
Thank youuuuu Wade!!!!!
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Excellent video as always with excellent info and advice. Thanks Wade, you truly are an asset to the candle makers community. At least in my opinion.
Thanks Cathy. I always appreciate your kind feedback and support. :)
Thank you so much! I learned so much from this video! I've been making and selling candles for several years and I knew most of what you said. But, the WAY you said several things really resonated with me. For instance - when you said the diameter/size of the jar would impact scent throw... That is so obvious but was a duhh moment for me. Historically I've only offered one size jar (12 oz status jar) but I'm currently experimenting with 4 oz tins and the 9 oz straight sided. I'm excited to share the tips about location/environment along with proper sized candles. Thank you!
Thanks Lori. We all can use a good reminder occasionally. Me included. :)
Thanks for sharing!
I only buy from one candle fragrance company. I use 10% per pound, and I have no problem. I steer clear of vanilla by itself. I cure for two weeks before I release the candles. As for wax, I use IGI 6006, and I don't color my candles. I do color my candle melts.
Thanks Naomi!
@@BlackTieBarn you’re welcome!
Who is the candle company that you buy your scents from?
@@tracywerner4315 Maple Street Candle Company. I also have some scents from Lone Star.
@@Wrightn221 thank you!
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks joni
Great reminders.
Thanks kim!
I’m so grateful for this guy! As simple as it may seem, this video is way appreciated! I mean this really just helped me sooooo much and I’m so GLAD I watched until the END to get the most important tip!❤
That sir, was an excellent presentation.
Thank you kindly!
This is great info even for a consumer! I learned a lot! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Did you find candles that have a very strong scent
Thank you for giving such good advice, perhaps you could mention some of those oil companies you trust?
Very informative video thank you for the knowledge that u sharing, since it's first time trying to make candles for me and that too I am not getting proper blogger from India, ur video is really helpful
Thanks so much. Glad to help!
Thanks Wade, It may have been, in your words, "over simplified" but - I needed this little pep talk! 😆 - I am going to stop trying to force my scents and be selective in what I am doing. Only bringing 5 scents (hopefully) this fall so I can certainly afford to be selective LOL
Awesome. Yes... it is hard to go back to "simple" but it really helps. Lol
I wish I can give 1000 likes you saved me with these tips THANK YOU SO MUCH KEEP GOING
Awe thank you so much!
Thank you !!!
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Great advice
Ty!
Second time I’ve seen this video, still awesome 😎
🤣 I wish everyone watched every video twice. 🤣
I never realised burning candles would turn my ceilings and walls black hell of a job getting it clean can’t wait for the summer to repaint bought some candle toppers hope this will help
They shouldn't. Older candles were made with unrefined waxes that would throw a lot more soot. And many candles are significantly over wicked. Proper candles wouldn't cause that much of an issue
Loviv' it!
Do tell, CHEF TELL...😂😝👍
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I would've loved if you mentioned wax blend recipes that aides HT.
There are tons and it's so subjective. But I do discuss that in my wax review videos. :)
Oh my God, this man has given full instruction n likns about candle making startup literally full information. Plus, his video is full of authentic information. I would definitely follow him for my candle making start-up. Hd has given best advice, honestly. Yes, for other information about candle weight scent blending . % of fragrance are not covered, but im sure he has covered them in his other vedios .
Thanks so much. And yes... have several detailed videos on those other topics. :)
😊 thank u I’ve just started making candles and melts and heaps of smell when cold but burning not good but I did buy from a candle place I live in Australia hope to get it done soon some people say it can take a year I hope not
❤️❤️👍 just keep testing. You'll get it!
Thank you
You're welcome
Great video, I really appreciate all of the advice you give. That's why I'm subscribed to your channel...thing is, I really want to be successful in this business as I'm sure you want to be. My question is...do you offer mentoring advice off UA-cam or a class that guarantees your serious followers success?
Hey chriss. Its in my future plans. Been too overwhelmed to have done it yet but I'm working on it. :) But there is no way to guarantee success in any industry. So I can't do that. I can offer help but no guarantee. Even for me there wasn't. Heck it could fail next year. Lol
Nice dude.
Awesome
Thanks ✌️
I've been making candles as a hobby for 15 years and I agree with everything in this video! I mostly buy my oils from Candlescience. Any recommenadations for other good oil suppliers? I'd like to make a smoky cinnamon and haven't been able to perfect one.
The flaming candle is another really good supplier whose FO’s have been consistent and quality every time I restock I purchase their FO and am always highly satisfied
Great video as always but I want to comment on your tee. If this is one of your creations I will definitely support!
Lol. Thanks. Yah I have a few coming soon. ;)
Any tips on adding fragrance on pillar candles?
This was so helpful!!!!!! ✍️
I've spent so much money.
Smh
Glad you liked it!!
Excellent video! What do you think of using a heat gun to get out the air bubbles in a candle? I have used one extensively, and now I'm worried I messed up the HT and CT.
It's very common and okay for sure. Just do it on low and slowly. Too hot and too close can scorch the wax and destroy the FO
awesome! Is cetyl alcohol good for candles?
tyvm great video. clap clap clap
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Thank you, Wade, for the great video! My question probably is silly, but what is YOUR favorite wax and types of wicks that go with it? Also, what are your thoughts on blending waxes as it seem to be a “thing” these days?
No problem. I really don't have a favorite wax. I know that seems hard to believe but its true. There are things I like and dislike about each. The ones I currently use the most of are problend 600 and igi 6006 if thst helps. Wicks.... it depends on the jar. For pb600, many work wellbut I mostly use premier 700 and eco. For 6006 in jars nder 2.75" I use premier 700 or htp usually. Jars over that....Definitely double wick. 6006 can be tricky to wick
@@BlackTieBarn Thank you very much!
Hii…I’m a Nigerian student trying to start up a business…What’s the best wax to use????
Soap maker here getting ready to try candles. I've done some candles before but not scented ones. I was going more for the pretty swirl effect. Anyway I'm hearing so much about testing the different components, but I don't want to end up with a bunch of candles that I won't use. Like my soap making journey and I have so much in our personal use stash i'm planning to put some in the blessing boxes in town. Anyway back to candles. I want to use pint size mason jars ( I've saved because not suitable for canning) and soy wax. Should I just make one candle with each sample wick until I get the melt pool right? Then one for each fragrance once I have the wick right? I would like to figure out a game plan instead of making a bunch and having them not be useable. Thanks
This applies to everything I buy. It can look like the crown jewels, but if it smells bad, I'm not going near it. Soap, detergent, shampoo, candles....I wish manufacturers would stop palming us off with crappy stinks that are like squirting air freshener up your nostrils!
Lol. Agreed
What fragrance companies do you recommend?
Have you ever sold a candle that a customer is saying has no scent? I’ve tested all my fragrances before selling, and for some reason I have fragrances that seemed to have disappeared after curing. They also haven’t been on my shelf that long either. Im stressing out about that. How do I recover from that situation?
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Thank you. :)
Great info as always. Do you have a video on testing tips ?
Oh yes. Open up my channel, go to videos and scroll through. There has a dedicated testing one and others that discuss it as well. I'll see if I can grab link when get a chance
@@BlackTieBarn thanks I will go look it up 💗
I use soy wax and made some melts which came out nice bit when making glass candles and adding wicks the fragrance is just gone although I use %10 for both melts and glasses
Typically want to use different wax for melts and candles. Also wicking is the difference. Melts don't need a wick so testing and getting proper wicking in candles will help
So what wax holds smell best, what wick do you recommend and which oil? Secret?
Well there are tons of waxes that HOLD a ton of fragrance But arn't necessarily great at throwing the fragrance. . Paraffin and Parasoy blends will usually be best with hot trow. Start simple and you can tweak and improve as you go. For example, try problend 600 or IGI 6006 with Premier 700 wicks: blacktiebarn.com/collections/wicks
I made an 8oz tester candle the other day, using parasoy, 9% load and it basically has no cold throw :/ Will try burning it in a few days but I doubt it’ll have a hot throw.
This was my first time using parasoy and I was excited it would have a strong CT
Well I wouldn't give up yet. HT and CT aren't really related. In fact, soy generally has a better CT than paraffin but paraffin almost always has a better HT than soy. Which specific parasoy did you use
@@BlackTieBarn Good to know, thanks for the info! I used the IGI 6006 Parasoy
Hi! :) Were can I find the Premiere series in Europe? Do you perhaps know? I would love to try them :)
It’s hard to find a wick for a 3 wicked jar . They sure look beautiful though , lol . I use soy 10 with a bit of kosher wax .
Yah multi wicking can be a challenge sometimes for sure
Also have Coffee beans in a bowl to smell that helps with your smell sences
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I’m a beginner at candle making but would like to grow into a business. Where should I get the best quality fragrance oils? I don’t want to use paraffin wax so what is the best strong throw wax to use?
Hi Wade do have any good fragrance oil companys
Hi Wade, great video.. couple questions if u don’t mind.. what size jar would say you should start double wicking at? Also, my husband and I use soy wax for our candles and I’ve noticed some have a great hot throw others not so much I’m wondering if we should switch waxes? Any suggestions?? Thanks again!!
Soy is more picky on oils, true. But it's up to you if you'd rather try more oils or deal with switching waxes. Totally up to you. Switching waxes can be a pain though so if it's mostly working well, I wouldn't want to change.
Double wicking... usually around 3.25" or so
Can anyone tell me whether you have to do a new msds sheet,if you blend scents,since you are creating a new combo of chemicals etc?
Hey wade hyd I'm having a problem with creaters I've made 3 different candles and they all have the same problem could it be I'm pouring too hot
In your opinion what is the fruitiest candle in the market that have the strongest hot throw overall
Hey went to check out your site to possibly order some candles, when i buy from a new brand it is very difficult to choose. If you made a bundle of your 4-6 best selling candles i would buy it right away, but as I’m scrolling through the site i just don’t know what to try.
Question: I've read where some ppl will soak [wood]wicks in oil before making their candles. I've also read that it's not necessary BUT Have you tried/tested this or whats your opinion on this?
Never needed to myself. The wax it's in pretty much does the same thing. At least for me. Although j suppose it may depend on the wax
Hi wade! I Found your video and I can’t seem to figure out this issue I’m having with my scent throw. I made a batch a few months ago with 8% fragrance oil load, the scent throw was great! I just made another tester this week of the exact same candle, same fragrance oil but I did 9% load, same process, jar, wick all of it! And my tester has no scent throw. After going through everything the only thing I can think of is my fragrance oil might have expired? So my question is would an expired fragrance oil have no scent throw?
Hi Bethany. That is strange and I've experienced it too. I doubt the oil expired unless it was several years old. And that usually wouldn't cause no throw. Most likely just a rancid type smell. But.. its possible.
Usually it's one the of the following:
The supplier or Manufacturer changed the oil. For example, I've had oils become much worse after it was re-engineered. A few candle science oils I stopped using after they were reformulated to the new "clean scent" branding. The throw wasn't there anymore. So it's worth asking them.
It can also be changes in the wax if your having issues with multiple scents. It can also be your process. Did anything else change? Temp add FO at, or anything else?
I like my candles strong 💪, to many store bought candles have very weak scents or to much of a synthetic fragrance smell
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I got my self a candle resently and the cold through seems a lot stronger than the hot. Whats up with thay?
Hi Wade,
Today is day one for me on my Candle Making journey. Just one thing is confusing me from everything I've seen, listened to and read today - scents.
I totally agree the scent is probably the most important aspect, so my question is which to use, Essential Oils or Fragrance Oils? I hear you mention Fragrance Oils, but never Essential Oils. I live in the UK and every web site I've looked at for Scents seems to be all about Essential Oils, so maybe its a USA versus UK thing, I'm not sure. So any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks, Adrian.
Welcome to the party! :) Definitely fragrance oils. The are designed to be used for this purpose, Better performance, and safe when used correctly. Essential oils are meant to be used in very small amounts, can be very toxic and flammable and not near as strong in candles. You can use them, but typically better sparingly
HiAdrian , you have to be careful with EO as they are highly flammable, if you overload and they seep out they can catch fire. Use fragrance oil specially designed for wax ... try Luxury candle supply in UK , their quality is top shelf
The cold throw of one of my expensive candles has significantly diminished. I have tried wiping the top of the candle to remove any ‘skin’ that has developed, but found no improvement.
Can I please ask, if I warm the candle so all the wax liquifies, will this redistribute the fragrance and increase its cold throw?
Thank you for your videos.....Question. When you are adding a couple of fragrances.....I use 1 oz per pound of soy or beeswax. Would I add an ounce of each scent or combine the oils to make 1 oz? Thank you
For 1 oz and 2 oils solut evenly it would be a 0.5oz of each
Where do you buy jars ?
Can you recommend suppliers in Europe? Thank you
Hi, =)
First time commenting after I've watched quite a few of your very helpful videos.
I've been educating myself in candle making art, and my focus is on scent. I would like my candles to have complex fragrances, like perfumes, and I am contemplating creating my own FO mixes.
Would you think combining oils from different suppliers is a possibility (if composition is similar of course) ? And would you combine them with dyes so that they can be stored and used "ready to pour into wax" as needed ?
Thank you for you time, I've learned a lot from you.
Yep, makers mix oils all the time. :) and yes you can premix. I wouldn't do so much that ot just sits there forever but I do this as well. Check out my video on that new machine I bought. You will see the premixed oils and color jugs I use. :)
@@BlackTieBarn Thanks ! Cool, I'm very excited to work on scents, they are the fun part for me =)
Yeah, I saw the video, this machine is goals =)
What are the guidelines for jar size vs room size? Is there anything out there, ie mathematical formula, that states "this diameter sized jar or larger works best for this sized room."
Not really because everyone uses different materials and have different opinions on what is good HT. I just aim for a pleasant smell and strength. I wouldn't use a large 3 wick csndle in small room or bathroom. That's just over powering. But a small 2" diameter candle I wouldn't put in ny kitchen or rec room area because I'll hardly smell it. It's very subjective obviously. It's hard to say a certain size per room though because a wqx like 4627 will be stronger in a 2" jar than most soys in a 3" jar for example
do you know what is the reason a scent throw dwindles after a few hours? thank you 💙💙
It can be for a few reasons. Super soft waxes sometimes let it escape quickly. Sometimes overwicked and very hot or deep melt pool which causes it to evaporate wick as well. Sometimes poor quality oil or not thoroughly mixed in
Hi wade! Thank you so much for your tips, I started making scented candles The candles smell so nice when it's not lighted but when I burn it there's no scent at all is it normal ? I'm so hopeless
Have you tried multiple fragrances, wicks, and even waxes?
Would you recommend
Palo santo patchouli by FC
Or Oakmoss & Amber by CS?
Also, sea salt & orchid or Baja cactus blossom? 🙏🏼
I like all those. Lol. Oakmoss and amber is one of my favorites of all. Wish it was a bit stronger but I love it. I'd probably go with the bottom 3 if trying to remove two. Then probably oakmoss amber and orchid
Is there a rule on when or what temperature to add the fragrance, does it make a difference?
I'd follow the recommendations from the supplier for your specific wax and adjust if needed
Once you finish making a candle. when should I cut the wick and put the cap on it?
Most people just do it the next day. But basically... once it's cool and firmed up
What is the difference between fragrance oils v/s fragrance scents? And if there is a difference when should they be used? I have both but not sure if one should be used for certain products such as candles, soaps or wax.
They are the same. People use them interchangeably. You're smelling the scent but they are actually fragrance oils. Now... essential oils are different snd I wouldn't use them for candles unless in very small amounts
@@BlackTieBarn thank you so much for responding and for this information🙂