Any studies i have seen or conducted show that the paraffin blends used for candles produce the same combustion profiles as those of natural blend waxes. My understanding about fragrance load is that natural waxes can generally solubilize or hold more fragrance but they also do not as readily evaporate that fragrance so you need more for the same intensity. These intensity differences don't always match between hot and cold mode. It is also in the best interest of the fragrance suppliers to push natural blends. One positive for soy is that due to its greater solubility, you can use some additional fragrance components that wouldn't normally solubilize with with paraffin. Then again, you can always add micro wax or a vybar to compensate.
One of the big ones that annoy me is when the Soy fanatics proudly tell everyone they avoid paraffin because it's a petroleum product, completely blind to the fact that their own soy wax goes through a massively extensive production process using... YOU GUESSED IT FOLKS, petroleum products. For example, in order to get the soy bean oil out of the bean/husk, they are soaked in petrochemicals (typically hexane). They are then hydrogenated (using hydrogen, most of the hydrogen used today comes from hydrocarbon conversion, which starts with fossil feedstocks) From my experience, 99% of the people who are anti paraffin, know sweet fa about how their own wax is made, or even where the wax resources were farmed. Greenwashing in the candle industry is rife.
Great comment It will be great an energy audit of converting crude oil from the ground to fully refined paraffin wax vs the same for soya wax from processing from planting, oil extraction, decolorizing and purifying and finally hudrogenating. If you consider a candle as an apparatus to release and dose a fragrance or volatile to your living space. Soy wax ups the ante with an immediate + 1% or greater demand and cost side increase on fragrances and essential oils. The presence of C-H-O in hydrogen and oxygen does contribute to improving the combustion reactions and for a more efficient burn. Analogous to a higher octane gas. You add an aromatic fragrance with benzene or phenolic chemistry and that will make your blend more difficult to burn and possibly to form soot and mushroom due to graphitizing. The candle industry benefits from the once fill capability of soy waxes compared to a crystalline paraffin wax. Yes, the candle industry is green washing and creates a more false narrative.
Big time. Wasted months of testing because I was following eveyone saying to avoid Parrafin due to it being so harmful etc. Wasn't until I opened up and actually educating myself on the reality!
@@astraea926 The only gripe about paraffin that I have is that it's not a renewable resource, but with that said, the way that we harvest soy globally (admittedly mainly for animal agriculture) is also really damaging. Ultimately Paraffin is by far the highest quality wax in terms of Price/Scent Throw/Stability and overall performance in all temperatures, nothing is in the same league as a high quality paraffin. Personally I'm using a custom blend of Rapeseed/Coconut/Paraffin. Ultimately I do want to drop paraffin because of it not being renewable, but that will likely be a while in the future, at present there are no "sustainable" waxes that come close to the performance of Paraffin. When it comes to sustainability, I'm instead focusing on packaging and the vessels to try to be better. So many soy wax users talk about how it's eco friendly then ram their packaging full of plastics.
What's bugging us are people who go into a thrift shop, buy random jars or cups not built to be candles, then make a video about how they use the jars and cups for candles.
A local maker in the city I’m from makes candles in tea cups. Like the kind that go on saucers. They were selling for a while in a local shop and it freaks me out, not just thinking of how fragile those kind of tea cups are but how unbalanced they are. 🫣
@@FC-ds9ve sounds like an unnecessary exposure to legal risk. I'm not a lawyer but as someone who sells candles, I try to be aware of my legal responsibilities. And slapping a label on the bottom isn't going to cut it.
thank you for #5. all the emphasis and misleading information about melt pool can create an awful lot of frustration for people trying to learn the craft.
I started watching your videos about a year ago+ when I first started my business. Spent all year testing trying many waxes and wicks and ensuring my candle is not only safe but theoretically correct in terms of wax/wick FO balance and not being pigeon holed into the terrible pretenses like “soy wax is safe” and “Paraffin blends are evil!” Almost ready to finally start selling product now that I am confident in a sound candle to sell. Thanks for all you do!
Definitely Number 5.....experimenting, Ive found that in container candles, on the first burn, normally I'll have a small amount of hangup (I call crescenting, as it creates a small crescent moon on one side). This WILL clear after a few burns, as container candles seem to trap more heat in later burns as it gets deeper in the jar. Judge the melting by the end of the candle life.
Since I know customers can hold on to a soy candle for a year or longer, as a general rule I use up my candle supplies (wax/fragrance) within 6 months of purchasing them and I sell my candles off within 6 months of pouring them. What's better, most of my candles are made to order anyways, so usually a candle is sold off within days of pouring.
Long-time fan here. Thank you for this video! If y'all haven't tried the FOs he sells y'all should, great quality FOs and the 2oz sample sizes is perfect.
Fantastic video! You could easily do hours on the science of candles. I’m here for that! 😂 when I initially started the melt pool had me baffled. I didn’t understand how it could be a one rule fits all type of thing.
Thank you for the information! I paid for a boot camp but I am still having issues with my burn tests 😢 I kept looking for a full melt pool within the first hour and wasn’t getting it so I wicked up and by time that candle burned down my vessel was SO hot!!! I feel like I am back at square one. But again thank you for the information!!!!
A terrible dangerous lie, "It's safe to put flammable things such as dried flowers, straws, acrylics, some essential oils, in and/or on top of your candle wax. Where did that lie even come from? A candle loving pyromaniac?
My big concern is jar adhesion. I use GW464 Soy. 13.5 oz straight-sided Libby jar. I was pouring between 142 and 145, and now I pour at 135. The pour is beautiful at first. Around day 2 or more, the jar adhesion occurs. I space my jars 2-4 inches apart and still the problem. I have heated my jars but not always and still the same. I ensure the wax is poured into room-temperature jars; they are not cold. Can anyone please give me any advice, feedback, etc.
You are so right about higher cost does not equal better quality, the supplier I have found has fabulous prices and beautiful silky wax, with full scientific specs and understanding of wax and how candles work. They are supberb quality and much cheaper than local hobby shops and thier competitors.
Will you consider teaching us how to make our own fragrance oils? I can’t buy huckleberry fragrance oils in Canada. All the places that has it, don’t ship internationally 😢 I’m native and we go berry picking for huckleberries and I would love to learn how to make it.
Have you checked Brambleberry, Wholesale Supplies Plus, Nature's Garden? I don't remember who ships internationally but one or two of the OG suppliers did at one point. Also, if you have a buddy that will receive your order, then ship it to you, that's an option.
@@sharon09turner I'd be willing to help. I used to be a distributor for Crafters Choice years ago, and would help get packages to areas they didn't cover. You could ask Julie in Scentsational Soaping Supply. I'm not sure if she offers international or if she has a huckleberry though. Just trying to think of options for you. So, I've heard of huckleberries being compared to blueberries... How similar are they?
Do you make essential oils with Rosemary and thyme ? I had some a few years ago and everyone who came in my home complimented the scent that it gave off it was absolutely awesome
Yea as a consumer I recommend against synthetic fragrances. Similar to the fragrances in laundry soap, it can really bug 🐛 I really only get the natural stuff, generally I roll w beezwaxx cuz it is delightful and subtle
Why do candles lose aroma as they burn down? Can one wick perform better than another as far as producing a strong HT at 50% burn down? Say eco wicks vs cd?
Apologies if this is a stupid question, when testing FO load, do people just test in % increments or might there be a need for half % testing to find optimum load?
hi, I'm not in the business. I'm just looking to purchase a candle with no scent that will safely burn in a glass jar for about 3 days, 24 hours a day. Any recommendations, anyone?
No fragrance it's poisonous also fumes bad for pets/birds extremely sensitive. If u use a nonstick pan it can kill a bird in next room. Yes even the newer kind they're not much better
I am all about 2 oz fragrance oil bottles!!! 1 oz bottles are just not enough to adequately test with. I have two waxes I use. With a 1 oz bottle I pour half a candle's worth in my soy. If it doesn't throw I pour the other half with my para-soy. If that doesn't throw, then that's it. I can't vary the fragrance loads, change the wicks, or do anything else to test the oil's ability to make a good throw. Then I don't even consider using the FO. Instead I go online and leave a review. Fragrance companies are really hurting themselves by only offering 1 oz sample bottles.
I’m going through the frustration of figuring out the whole candle thing. I have every kind of wax I could find. I have at least 300 lbs of different waxes. I also have every size eco wick. Been trying different waxes, different size wicks, different amounts of fragrance. I still can not get a hot throw for the life of me. It’s a lot of work figuring this all out. Everyone has different suggestions and different formulations and I have bought into all of them just to get no hot throw. UGH
Quick question. I'm getting ready to open a cafe and bake shop. I also wanted to add a gift shop can I do all three of those under one LLC or do I need to file a secondary for the gift shop
I’m thinking about purchasing a jar that needs to be double wicked. I have the premiere sample pack for testing. Do I use smaller wick sizes or do I stay at a higher wick x 2?
Great video. Would really like to see a video on vessel temperature throughout the life of the candle. There is a a lot of varying guidance out there but knowing best practices would be great. Example if a ceramic candle has a life of approx 30 hrs on a 3 wick candle and burns at a high of 130 during the mid cycle but then 150 degrees during the last burn is this ok?
Adding too much fragrance made my soy wax too strong when burning and the wood wick soot a lot. I had to learn that the scents were strong and didn’t need that much.
As to point #1, I had a candle (my own blend) that I couldn’t get HT from for the life of me. Someone suggested I go down to 6% FO load (which my poor scrambled brain still can’t process 🤪) and voila! Hot throw! 🤷🏻♀️
No not all waxes need a 2 week cure time , I’ve had to make a candle the day before for a customer and thankfully I had no complaints, normally I cure my candles about 3 days , I do not cure my wax melts at all , there hasn’t been a need .
I saw a video that showed them setting the wick straight by waiting until the wax has set a bit, then pull the wick through the soft set wax until it's standing in the center. Is this a good way to set the wax without a wick clip?
I would but I'm Transitioning to tie into the warehouse. Both were only a mile apart and made more sense to combine them once I had the warehouse space. 😀
Any studies i have seen or conducted show that the paraffin blends used for candles produce the same combustion profiles as those of natural blend waxes. My understanding about fragrance load is that natural waxes can generally solubilize or hold more fragrance but they also do not as readily evaporate that fragrance so you need more for the same intensity. These intensity differences don't always match between hot and cold mode. It is also in the best interest of the fragrance suppliers to push natural blends. One positive for soy is that due to its greater solubility, you can use some additional fragrance components that wouldn't normally solubilize with with paraffin. Then again, you can always add micro wax or a vybar to compensate.
One of the big ones that annoy me is when the Soy fanatics proudly tell everyone they avoid paraffin because it's a petroleum product, completely blind to the fact that their own soy wax goes through a massively extensive production process using... YOU GUESSED IT FOLKS, petroleum products.
For example, in order to get the soy bean oil out of the bean/husk, they are soaked in petrochemicals (typically hexane). They are then hydrogenated (using hydrogen, most of the hydrogen used today comes from hydrocarbon conversion, which starts with fossil feedstocks)
From my experience, 99% of the people who are anti paraffin, know sweet fa about how their own wax is made, or even where the wax resources were farmed.
Greenwashing in the candle industry is rife.
Great comment
It will be great an energy audit of converting crude oil from the ground to fully refined paraffin wax vs the same for soya wax from processing from planting, oil extraction, decolorizing and purifying and finally hudrogenating.
If you consider a candle as an apparatus to release and dose a fragrance or volatile to your living space.
Soy wax ups the ante with an immediate + 1% or greater demand and cost side increase on fragrances and essential oils.
The presence of C-H-O in hydrogen and oxygen does contribute to improving the combustion reactions and for a more efficient burn.
Analogous to a higher octane gas.
You add an aromatic fragrance with benzene or phenolic chemistry and that will make your blend more difficult to burn and possibly to form soot and mushroom due to graphitizing.
The candle industry benefits from the once fill capability of soy waxes compared to a crystalline paraffin wax.
Yes, the candle industry is green washing and creates a more false narrative.
Big time. Wasted months of testing because I was following eveyone saying to avoid Parrafin due to it being so harmful etc. Wasn't until I opened up and actually educating myself on the reality!
@@astraea926 The only gripe about paraffin that I have is that it's not a renewable resource, but with that said, the way that we harvest soy globally (admittedly mainly for animal agriculture) is also really damaging.
Ultimately Paraffin is by far the highest quality wax in terms of Price/Scent Throw/Stability and overall performance in all temperatures, nothing is in the same league as a high quality paraffin.
Personally I'm using a custom blend of Rapeseed/Coconut/Paraffin.
Ultimately I do want to drop paraffin because of it not being renewable, but that will likely be a while in the future, at present there are no "sustainable" waxes that come close to the performance of Paraffin.
When it comes to sustainability, I'm instead focusing on packaging and the vessels to try to be better.
So many soy wax users talk about how it's eco friendly then ram their packaging full of plastics.
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❤❤❤ lol just said that myself.
What's bugging us are people who go into a thrift shop, buy random jars or cups not built to be candles, then make a video about how they use the jars and cups for candles.
100%
I know a candle maker who does this. Not only do they use solely thrifted vessels, they use dried flowers in them too
A local maker in the city I’m from makes candles in tea cups. Like the kind that go on saucers. They were selling for a while in a local shop and it freaks me out, not just thinking of how fragile those kind of tea cups are but how unbalanced they are. 🫣
@@FC-ds9ve sounds like an unnecessary exposure to legal risk. I'm not a lawyer but as someone who sells candles, I try to be aware of my legal responsibilities. And slapping a label on the bottom isn't going to cut it.
@@diegooland1261 I agree. It makes me really nervous that they sell candles to the public that way.
Great timing! I was just rewatching the 2024 business guide! Thanks for all you do Wade!
Glad to help!
thank you for #5. all the emphasis and misleading information about melt pool can create an awful lot of frustration for people trying to learn the craft.
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One thing I've learned making soap is the answer to "Why the heck did/does it do that?" is "Chemistry is weird, that's why it's fun!"
Lol. Facts!
It's not fun when you waste money
I started watching your videos about a year ago+ when I first started my business. Spent all year testing trying many waxes and wicks and ensuring my candle is not only safe but theoretically correct in terms of wax/wick FO balance and not being pigeon holed into the terrible pretenses like “soy wax is safe” and “Paraffin blends are evil!” Almost ready to finally start selling product now that I am confident in a sound candle to sell. Thanks for all you do!
Definitely Number 5.....experimenting, Ive found that in container candles, on the first burn, normally I'll have a small amount of hangup (I call crescenting, as it creates a small crescent moon on one side). This WILL clear after a few burns, as container candles seem to trap more heat in later burns as it gets deeper in the jar. Judge the melting by the end of the candle life.
This very true
Wade, you got real mad about the melt pool rate haha - SAME
🤣🤣 i did. Lol
Great video. I order my wicks from BTB and I have ordered a few of the oils. Three words, quality, quality, quality!!!
Thanks so much!
Since I know customers can hold on to a soy candle for a year or longer, as a general rule I use up my candle supplies (wax/fragrance) within 6 months of purchasing them and I sell my candles off within 6 months of pouring them. What's better, most of my candles are made to order anyways, so usually a candle is sold off within days of pouring.
Will a natural ingredient like coffee beans be enough to have a good scent throw? Or do I really need to use/add essential oils?
No, it won't provide any fragrance to your candle at all. Only fragrance oils and to a lesser degree, essential oils will provide any fragrance
Going to shop your products now. I'm in Canada..so I'll be ordering from Amazon. Thank you for all the honest information
Our products ate available directly from our website. We don't sell ours on Amazon
:)
Long-time fan here. Thank you for this video!
If y'all haven't tried the FOs he sells y'all should, great quality FOs and the 2oz sample sizes is perfect.
Thanks!
@@BlackTieBarn are you cruelty free brand? I'm seeking leaping bunny certification.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet yes!
Fantastic video! You could easily do hours on the science of candles. I’m here for that! 😂 when I initially started the melt pool had me baffled. I didn’t understand how it could be a one rule fits all type of thing.
🤗 absolutely
Nope..Amazon doesn't have your products here in Canada
No sorry, our products aren't on amazon
Great information, Wade. All of what you said is true! 😂
Have a great week! ❤
Thanks! You too!
Wow dude you know your stuff. Sick mate😌
Thank you 🙌
Excellent tips, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the information! I paid for a boot camp but I am still having issues with my burn tests 😢 I kept looking for a full melt pool within the first hour and wasn’t getting it so I wicked up and by time that candle burned down my vessel was SO hot!!! I feel like I am back at square one. But again thank you for the information!!!!
Maybe the wax...
Thank you!!
What causes dips or cracks in the top of the candle and how do you prevent it?
Thank you!! great info
14:02 I have a box that says 7 days , Diary of Fragrance oils. Phatoil. Is this good to use???
Agree 100% on all of your points. Especially the essential oil one!! That one drives me nuts.
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A terrible dangerous lie, "It's safe to put flammable things such as dried flowers, straws, acrylics, some essential oils, in and/or on top of your candle wax. Where did that lie even come from? A candle loving pyromaniac?
Good one!
Thanks for the information.❤😂
No problem!!
Well said, thanks so much for your insights- especially the melt pool info!
😀 glad you enjoyed!
My big concern is jar adhesion. I use GW464 Soy. 13.5 oz straight-sided Libby jar. I was pouring between 142 and 145, and now I pour at 135. The pour is beautiful at first. Around day 2 or more, the jar adhesion occurs. I space my jars 2-4 inches apart and still the problem. I have heated my jars but not always and still the same. I ensure the wax is poured into room-temperature jars; they are not cold. Can anyone please give me any advice, feedback, etc.
You are so right about higher cost does not equal better quality, the supplier I have found has fabulous prices and beautiful silky wax, with full scientific specs and understanding of wax and how candles work. They are supberb quality and much cheaper than local hobby shops and thier competitors.
Will you consider teaching us how to make our own fragrance oils? I can’t buy huckleberry fragrance oils in Canada. All the places that has it, don’t ship internationally 😢
I’m native and we go berry picking for huckleberries and I would love to learn how to make it.
Check on line. But I know Vinella you soke in vadca
Have you checked Brambleberry, Wholesale Supplies Plus, Nature's Garden? I don't remember who ships internationally but one or two of the OG suppliers did at one point.
Also, if you have a buddy that will receive your order, then ship it to you, that's an option.
@@roberts.valkyrie tried them all. Most don’t ship to Canada. Bramble Berry is way too expensive for shipping
@@sharon09turner I'd be willing to help. I used to be a distributor for Crafters Choice years ago, and would help get packages to areas they didn't cover.
You could ask Julie in Scentsational Soaping Supply. I'm not sure if she offers international or if she has a huckleberry though. Just trying to think of options for you.
So, I've heard of huckleberries being compared to blueberries... How similar are they?
What about beeswax candles? Do they smoke? How do you make the scent last long time in the candles? That’s what I have trouble with.
i used 6% FO and it is still good
Always great content, Wade🕯! Wax suggestion for Tucson, AZ! I may wanna try molded paraffin candles since everyone seems on container kick right now.
Do you make essential oils with Rosemary and thyme ? I had some a few years ago and everyone who came in my home complimented the scent that it gave off it was absolutely awesome
Thank you! I am wanting to start a candle business but I was very tempted to fall down the path of using as much fragrance as the wax could handle.
Completely understand
Yea as a consumer I recommend against synthetic fragrances. Similar to the fragrances in laundry soap, it can really bug 🐛 I really only get the natural stuff, generally I roll w beezwaxx cuz it is delightful and subtle
Why do candles lose aroma as they burn down? Can one wick perform better than another as far as producing a strong HT at 50% burn down? Say eco wicks vs cd?
This was very good. I am also a customer.
you make them, i mean your oils, so I can make them too
So 7 to 9% is a good starting point?
Yep!
Apologies if this is a stupid question, when testing FO load, do people just test in % increments or might there be a need for half % testing to find optimum load?
Love this video. Thanks for making it.
Please make a kit for new beginners!! I will definitely buy a kit!!🙏💜🙏
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Great video Wade! Valuable to new makers!
Thanks! :)
hi, I'm not in the business. I'm just looking to purchase a candle with no scent that will safely burn in a glass jar for about 3 days, 24 hours a day. Any recommendations, anyone?
Burning candles for extended times is inherently dangerous. Don't burn longer than 4 hours and don't burn unattended.
excellent resource and fair prices
No fragrance it's poisonous also fumes bad for pets/birds extremely sensitive. If u use a nonstick pan it can kill a bird in next room. Yes even the newer kind they're not much better
How important is it to have lids on your candles?
Makes easier to ship and can help with presentation. But doesn't really impact the candle itself
I am all about 2 oz fragrance oil bottles!!! 1 oz bottles are just not enough to adequately test with. I have two waxes I use. With a 1 oz bottle I pour half a candle's worth in my soy. If it doesn't throw I pour the other half with my para-soy. If that doesn't throw, then that's it. I can't vary the fragrance loads, change the wicks, or do anything else to test the oil's ability to make a good throw. Then I don't even consider using the FO. Instead I go online and leave a review. Fragrance companies are really hurting themselves by only offering 1 oz sample bottles.
12:17 what about metal jars? 2oz, 4.4oz and 8oz?? Will they hold more heat in the jar?
I’m going through the frustration of figuring out the whole candle thing. I have every kind of wax I could find. I have at least 300 lbs of different waxes. I also have every size eco wick. Been trying different waxes, different size wicks, different amounts of fragrance. I still can not get a hot throw for the life of me. It’s a lot of work figuring this all out. Everyone has different suggestions and different formulations and I have bought into all of them just to get no hot throw. UGH
Quick question. I'm getting ready to open a cafe and bake shop. I also wanted to add a gift shop can I do all three of those under one LLC or do I need to file a secondary for the gift shop
I’m thinking about purchasing a jar that needs to be double wicked. I have the premiere sample pack for testing. Do I use smaller wick sizes or do I stay at a higher wick x 2?
Great video. Would really like to see a video on vessel temperature throughout the life of the candle. There is a a lot of varying guidance out there but knowing best practices would be great. Example if a ceramic candle has a life of approx 30 hrs on a 3 wick candle and burns at a high of 130 during the mid cycle but then 150 degrees during the last burn is this ok?
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I struggle with the melt pool myth when testing. I always try to do 1-2 hours and look at it then check again at 3 and see how its burning.
I use just soy wax I did a few pillar candles I made fab cold throw but no hot throw I used 10% fo
Im glad I jumped off the apricot coco wax - way too expensive.
Adding too much fragrance made my soy wax too strong when burning and the wood wick soot a lot. I had to learn that the scents were strong and didn’t need that much.
Hello, I really enjoy your videos. I was wondering if you could advise me on a decent essential oil and fragrance.
Great Information...as usual! Always appreciate your videos and it's great to see your business grow!
As to point #1, I had a candle (my own blend) that I couldn’t get HT from for the life of me. Someone suggested I go down to 6% FO load (which my poor scrambled brain still can’t process 🤪) and voila! Hot throw! 🤷🏻♀️
Must've been a different issue. I tried 6% and I got zero hot throw
This is why I love your channel!
We approve all of these messages!!!💯💯💯
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interesting.
Yea way too much in synthetic fragrances in candles, total turn off. I stay away from all that. Use natural oils
Do all candles need a 2 week cure... I’ve heard yes others say no.
Nope :)
Wait, even for coconut apricot (calwax) waxes or is this just for soy? @BlackTieBarn
No not all waxes need a 2 week cure time , I’ve had to make a candle the day before for a customer and thankfully I had no complaints, normally I cure my candles about 3 days , I do not cure my wax melts at all , there hasn’t been a need .
Thanks for all you do !!!!!!
Thanks for the tips
Thank you from the UK 👍😎
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I saw a video that showed them setting the wick straight by waiting until the wax has set a bit, then pull the wick through the soft set wax until it's standing in the center. Is this a good way to set the wax without a wick clip?
wait, isn't this one of the ways to test which wick is best for a particular candle?
Your can do that but it's slower and less accurate and you need go then use a heat gun to fill it back in and smooth it out
Not one I recommend
Love it ❤
Thank you! :)
Thank u
Welcome!
Can you do a video update on the store?
I would but I'm Transitioning to tie into the warehouse. Both were only a mile apart and made more sense to combine them once I had the warehouse space. 😀
Man , I hate AI images 😢