MOKUME GANE PENDANT!!! Copper and Nickel Damascus!
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Alec Steele Blacksmith 2019 - Розваги
How about mokume dice with stone settings for the numbers?
Ooooh, that would be super nice.
It'd be weirdly weighted though.
@@V3loCiTy123 True, would still be slickest dice ever. Just, not for playing craps on a sidewalk for money or anything.
@@V3loCiTy123 maybe he could figure that out... It would definitely be a challenge
I like this idea.
That copper nickel contrast is amazing. I’d love to see this as a knife (or lock pick😁) handle. 👍
Copper and nickel aren't good for hardness and keeping an edge, it would make a good decoration piece
The Lost Boy it wouldn’t work as a general knife but I think would be fine as a serrated bread knife.
Either way, LPL was talking about it as a handle, not a blade. I’d worry about the copper greening with skin contact.
Why are you here?
The Lost Boy We usually don’t put edges on handles. 👍
LockPickingLawyer EXTREME lock picking
This is the third video that you have introduced the disk sander...hahaha
Smith UA-camr: *Makes thing*
Alec: *Makes thing but Damascus*
Looks very pretty, although the asymmetry of the triangle bothers me a bit.
2 things I realized during my own experiments making jewellery:
- Nickel causes allergies, so I recommend covering any nickel part that might touch the skin with a clear resin.
- For pendants I recommend having triangles point down and not up, at least if it's intended for women. That way the shape lines up beautifully with the collarbones and the breasts. Also, that way there are no pointy bits poking into sensitive places, which especially women with larger breast sizes will appreciate!
nickel doesn't cause allergies! But IF you already are allergic to nickel, then it causes allergic reactions. the majority of people isn't allergic to nickel, but a fair amount are. So yeah, a coating might be a good idea anyway.
@@Taunus-Tim Also, copper tends to become green/stain the skin green with prolonged skin exposure, so coating this pendant is a must!
@@Taunus-Tim
Nickel allergies are pretty common, although a pendant isn’t necessarily a problem for everyone who is allergic, unlike earrings where nickel causes inflammation for basically everyone who is allergic to it.
this is true
I still want the cavalry saber but I do like the frequent content. Fun little projects. This one in particular was very informative.
Same. I keep checking back looking for the guard video and still nothing...
They wait for equipment to work on on the saber. Do you two even listen to what Alec is talking about?
Do, learn, repeat. I love your actitude. Welcome to the beauty of the small things Alec, the pendant looks great!!
Thank you Pablo!! I really really appreciate it!!
How you doing Pablo?
attitude
Alec, Im sure you know this already, but in case you dont, be weary of the disk sander, as it eats material away on the outside edge of the disk faster than in the middle, and can cause surfaces to not be parallel anymore if you're not careful. Keep up the great work!
Don’t think I didn’t see that airpod flex
Jäger From GSG9 oh no!!! He has AirPods in, he can’t hear us!
weird flex but ok.
I no joke looked through the comments to find someone that noticed it
It’s how he gets his audibles in.
Ryan Henderson where?
It would be really cool if you made 👓 glasses frame out of Damascus they would be kinda heavy but would be legit the coolest frames out there.
I'd buy those
He already had to cancel selling the Damascus ring because he discovered it's not good to keep in contact with skin for extended periods of time. So the glasses frames would have the same issue unless they had a thick epoxy coating.
Sam Prudden Its the same issue people have with certain jewelry already, certain peoples skin temporarily turn funny colors if exposed to certain metals for an extended amount of time.
They probably have sensitive skin I've never had a problem with it
Haha Cole I literally sent my reply then seen yours lol
Will: “Okay so we need to design-“
Alex: “WITH GEMSTONES!”
I'm glad that you are doing other projects in between the cavalry saber, thank you alex and will.
Alec i meant! Omg I'm a numpty
I very much appreciate your willingness to expand your horizons. Lots of blacksmiths stick to the true and tried and don’t really venture outside a safe circle. Great work as always.
Hey guys, How about a Cane Sword?
A good chance to try out a combination of alot of uour recently learned techniques?
Ruaidhri McNeely Each State is different, but I believe cane swords are considered concealed weapons and therefore possibly illegal. Although It’s probably fine if he keeps it in a private place and travels with it apart
sword canes are legal in montana as of october 2017
Cane swords are legal in Minnesota and have been since before I moved here in 1982
he said that he wanted to but couldn't because of laws but sense hes in the land of the free now
you mean, stone settings?
Hey since you're in America now it is easier to get ahold of powdered Steel you can start practicing canister and canoe Damascus🎉🎊
I LOVE that this video is slower paced, more of Alec making stuff. Best video in a while.
"more stone setting" "I'm definitely not getting addicted" yes you are.
Stoner.
One of the best things I've seen all day!
Hah
amen
yep, love it little round stone in a littleround hole ,so bteathtakingly original
Waiting for the video where you bedazzle your whole shop.
rofl that was awesome
Aren’t we all
Bedazzle the power hammer
the video when he made the copper and nickle Damascus was the first video that i saw from this channel and i got immediately hooked, and it makes me so happy that he finally did something cool with it, Love the good work Alec, keep it up!
Great fix on the pendant Alec. taking it to an asymmetrical triangle worked well. Beautiful work.
Alec, try superglue to hold down your project when working with small things in a band saw. Just glue your metal bit to a sacrificial piece of plywood, BAM you have "safe" handles. Diresta uses super glue for everything!
superglue and just a pinch of baking soda ,bonds instantaly ,build it instantly ,three d printer ,with out the the printer ,just your mind!!
thank you, fix anthing for a buck
Make some Damascus bullets and send them to Demolition ranch to test out.
A Damascus breast plate
Damascus buckshot
Taofladermous, Yea I butchered the spelling.. would be a better candidate.
taofledermaus...
Bomp
So glad you're finally making something from that material. That is one of my favorite pattern welded metal thus far.
4:02 I love how he showed the disc sander as the old fashioned vinyl disc crackings popped in
Alec needs to make more jewelery, he looks so skilled/very inclined to learn it quickly, even his practise plate looks like some kind of abstract art piece ^^
one day Alec you are gonna have to make a flintlock damascus blunderbuss...
The music in this video was absolutely exceptional
Yeah, i thought the more chilled out music for the smaller project was nice. Heavier, more intense music for the bigger things is still cool though!
@@DasVERMiT Yea would like to know the artist!
I love the editing !! The fact that these videos come out almost daily and to have such high production value makes these videos that much better !! Great job Alec, Will and Jamie !
Alec, I run TTRPGs sometimes. The items you make are masterpieces, very beautiful, and always get me thinking about designs for magic items in-game. Absolutely magnificent.
This material makes me think of a tiger's coat, and seeing this video my brain jumps to earrings or inlays - I'm not often a creative type but watching your creations makes me feel like I could be!
The daily dose of Alec Steele! Phew, I can breathe again!
9:47 Is that... _AirPods?_
Our boy Alec really is successful
His mother should be proud
Dont try talk to him.. He cant hear you anyways
He can't hear broke 😂😂
isaac no name hope he doesn’t mess up while working... he won’t notice
That pattern looks strangely like pewDiePie’s background theme
Doing his part to defeat T series
Exactly
alec should make a ring out of it and send it to him
Pewdiependant
u right
nicee you read this
Your videos are spectacular- I'm sitting here researching, completely forgetting where I am and feeling like I'm in your shop learning from you because you're so direct with the audience. Keep it up!
Glad to see you back to an almost day frequency!
Pewdiepie's pendant
Much better Alec. This is the real you, both speed and format.
THE SANT JORDI GOLF SOCIETY Adrian Cox totally!
I like the multipart epics!
Use the green wax you've been using for molds - melt a chunk onto the metal to grind and stick a wooden dowel into the wax. Then you can hold the piece to grind and polish. Jewelers do this for lots of things. Adding a very very light coat of something like canola oil on the silicone as a release agent might allow the wax to flow smoothly...
I bet you could get a gorgeous patina on just the copper in no time with a short brine bath if you ever want to make something with a bit of green in it. I'm thinking the nickel in that blend would hold up pretty well unless the bath goes on too long.
Damascus toilet brush handle!
OmegaLord yesssss
He should make shitty damascus for it. *ba dum tiss*
Steel + Water is not the best combination though.
@@DasVERMiT Nickel + copper damascus would work well though.
I like how you're aiming for 25mm (close enough to 1 inch). Just enough metric to keep the workd happy. Just enough imperial to keep the US viewers happy
25,7mm... Why would anyone use imperial...
@@aloiseaux767 did you mean 25.4?
What you do amazes me . I’m an old fabricator I have never attempted anything you do. You are lighting a fire for me to try something new. Thank for all your hard work!
Just finished watching. The pendant turned out beautiful. You excel at so many things you put your mind to. It's definitely all in the mindset.
FINALLY! I've been waiting for Mokume Gane follow up so bad!
You should use the twisted bar for knife scales
There's something I ALWAYS appreciate about your videos Alec... The editing... how everything is beat matched.
That attention to detail is epic.
Also the content is cool too. Really inspiring!
I'm glad to see you branching out and always adding to your tool kit of knowledge.
Alec i think its an fantastic idea to practise stone setting as much as possible, think about it you guys could make a couple of sweet ass crowns and have a shirt with you as "the kings of Montana" or something!
Or maybe the Queens of Montana.....most things don't need PRETTY STONES......
@@SuperJaXXas yeah i subbed when he was making knives and swords! Evidently he got on a date site and moved to Montana and now he makes rings and a fancy screw driver with gems in it!! And now a necklace. I'm not going to say it but it sure is obvious. Hell they even have the same haircut! He moved and his content is crap!! The forging sucks!!
@@stageforgejon905 For the most part I totally enjoy the content. A few stones here or there are cool but on everything? A stone on a screwdriver is stoopid! Otherwise I think it is safely said that if not for the show Forged in Fire and Alec Steele not 1 in 10 would know what the hell forging is about.
YMMV
@@stageforgejon905 I honestly can't tell if you're implying that Alec and Will are in a relationship, and that's the funniest thing I've seen all day
@@SuperJaXXas well I'm not seeing alot of forging since he teamed with Will! Haven't seen will do anything but play with wax! It's getting disappointing!
Did you forget that copper work hardens? Shouldn't you have been quenching it during the forging process?
Interesting thought.
Copper is very tricky.
Hey man i just wanted to let you know ive been feeling extremely unmotivated lately in my graphic art, and sort of abandoned it for a while. After watching your videos I realised I really miss working with metal and wood. Youve inspired me to make a new knife and given me hundreds of ideas for next projects. Im nowhere near as skilled as you are but i can't thank you enough for unknowingly helping me (and many others i think) get their motivation back. So thank you for all the hard work you put out here. It really helps not only practcally but mentally aswell. I guess all I can really say is thank you, even though I feel like thats not nearly enough to show my genuine gratitude. Keep it up (at your rate of course would hate for you to overwork yourself) and i'll definitely stick around for anything you come up with. Excuse the long message, I really loved this project in particular so the timing felt right.
Jesus this is way longer thank expected. In conclusion: i look up to you
i love the way you try to learn new skills all the time making us a fabulous journey into creation process
So first Alec has a girl helping with his instagram stories, and now he's making all of this jewelry...
I think you're onto something!
When did that with the girl come out?
.....
Big UwU
And there was a quick shot in this video of someone wearing the necklace!
10:00 the caliper literally says 1.99
“Two millimeters exactly” 😂😂
Those burs would be more accurate then his caliper so I tend to think it was 2 mm exactly :D
when you drill it usually tends to be a bit bigger than you measured
1.99 is actually exactly 2 mm if you take the tolerance of the calipers into account. the failure lies in the thousands of a millimeter... saying this, there is no thing on earth, that is "exactly" any size. it's just a matter of how precise your measuring method is. even a drill bit, that measures 2.00000 millimeters would really be something like this size: 2.000035892. but there is a limit how exact you want to measure it.
Taunus-Tims Welt
Yeah I figured
Taunus-Tims Welt Even more technically, everything is exactly only one size: The size it is.
Hello, Alec! I found you on Bobby Duke's channel. I have never worked metal in my life!....but I've always wanted to try. Who knows...maybe someday I will and something I learn here from you will be useful. No matter...I find you very entertaining, I love how you teach and your work is amazing! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Beautiful pendant you created there. I love the contrast of the Mokume Gane. I am enjoying these short forays into other projects while you are waiting on the necessary equipment for that gaurd. Maybe you could see about auctioning a couple of them off. Help offset the cost of the additional equipment purchases.
When you do your glammor shots stay on them a little longer. We want to see the detail in your work. Not the blur of the shot. :)
Charlie Haug I very much agree
than all you'll see is imperfections.
Leeroy that is true, and that’s why I want him to stay on them longer. If he can’t even show us a real shot of his work than he’s not holding himself to a high enough standard. This is especially true for someone like him who constantly preaches about how much ‘elbow grease’ he puts into projects, and how he wants them to be absolutely perfect. If he shows the imperfections then he will get criticism and will have to improve. He is extremely talented and a gifted artist, but he still has an immense amount to learn (like he says in his videos all the time).
I second, also keeping the focus a lil more in the b-roll
*Alec Steele* Silver and Gold Damascus please, or if you're scientifically inclined: Niobium-Titanium
Anodized Nio-ti?
@@MmeHyraelle Very beautiful combination, very difficult to alloy and then anodize.
@@MmeHyraelle I am building a carbon arc furnace within a hydrogen gas powered mini foundry in an attempt to forge a ring and potentially some bullets with Ferro-Niobium (35-65%) and pure Niobium.
@@ProlificInvention you have a page?
@@grendal113 Yes but I've been neglecting it. Just click on my profile pic and it will take you there
I just rewatched your mekumegane video a few days ago!!! I’m so excited!!!
Sure would be nice to see you make and use more of that MOKUME GANE Alec !!!!
Literally thought to myself "damn I'm bored" and poof you appeared. My hero ;)
"now I haven't introduced you to this yet..." - Alec introducing his disc sander for the second time and showing it for the third time 😄
(I know there is time bubble and all that stuff)
All depends on how and what order things are filmed and edited. This may have been filmed prior to the tour and the tour was just super easy to edit.
@@koloth5139 that's what I call time bubble
Alec get a sheet of thin finished plywood. When needing to cut something small on a bandsaw glue what you need to cut onto a piece of the plywood. You can then hold it with your hands for control without getting close to the blade. Finished plywood is perfect for that because it's flat enough and smooth enough.
Love how you are getting obsessed with the stone setting, it's like a kid that sees something shiny and has to play with it. Follow your passion, enjoy life and make beautiful things Alec, it's nice seeing you having fun you deserve it.
Hey Alec, what happened to the gold knife?
you should try making birch mokume
I love the texture that polishing it brought out because of the difference in hardness between the copper and nickel, absolutely amazing as always
I like the calm background music in this one.
Love this Damascus piece.
For the hanging hole, instead of going front to back which requires a link to put it on a chain, I would have drilled holes in the sides that meet in the middle so that you can put a chain right through it. That way and the front face of the triangle remains unmarked. I think it would have had a cleaner look overall that way, but that's just my personal opinion.
I suppose if it was really thin this might not have been possible though.
Tell us a little background on the your helper. And how you collaborated
Watch the pirates cutlass videos to see Alec and Wills first collab
Best production (cuts and music especially) since I started watching this. More of these types of beats!
I think what I like about Alec Steele's videos is that he takes every project as a learning opportunity. He seems to be a very humble man that is focused on perfecting his craft. The amount he has grown over the years as a blacksmith and designer is phenomenal. It's nice to see a young man with a hunger for learning and a strong work ethic instead of the normal man child UA-camrs. I'm also glad that he found a colleague who is equally adept at his craft so they can push each other to greater heights. I don't know if he will see this, but keep at it Allec Steele, you are an inspiration to to a lot of young men.
I really like the cinematic shots but the focusing is getting a little crazy. We want to see the piece at the end! Just give us more than a half second with everything in focus
"mokume gane...what a wonderful phrase..."
"mokume gane...ain't no passin' phase..."
"It's our problem free... philosophy...
mokume gane!
I love how even though you haven’t done something in the past. You have the courage to at the very least try. Risking failure makes success all the more satisfying.
I love Fine metal working!!! I'm so glad you started doing a lot more of it!!! I work a ton in copper and NewGold which is a brass copper mixture with the shininess of gold without the crazy pricetag! You should try some of it sometime!!! Love your work dude keep it up
Triangle, all seeing eye, illuminati. It all making sense.
/G\
I haven't seen him using a compass or set square, But definitely a straight edge.
Dude. Get yourself a rolling mill for jobs like this. It’s a much better way to thin out material to a uniform thickness.
loving these quick make videos. you guys should make touchmark pendants as something to sell on the site.
Stone marking tip my stepmother (certified gemologist) used occasionally for mass pave or invisible settings' layouts:
Put a bit of non-damaging ink or paint on stone's face & stamp that to metal for exact dimensions of stone face no matter stone's shape. Just look up what the stone you're using has issues with as far as potentially staining or scuffing the surface. When done, just drop stones in their appropriate cleaning solution bath to remove the ink or paint.
(If I remember from 20 years ago correctly, white acrylic paint or talcum powder paste were used mostly for darker metals & black alcohol ink marker was used on certain stones for lighter metals. There were other black "inks or paints" but I don't recall what they all were. NEVR use graphite due to its abrasive properties & can it get into cracks, scratches, and/or chips you didn't want highlighted or didn't notice at purchase.)
Dude this uploaded less than 9 seconds ago. 15 comments
Most of them are saying their the first
And? Did you manage to check off some bucket list item?
Nickel is shiny death, if I touch it for more than 5 minutes I break out in hives. It’s in everything 🙄
Mjölnir Odinson
Yeah, i used to have earrings with a small amt of nickel in them, and they would make my ears get all crusty and infected, it was awful 😬
Will never use them again, even though they were so cute
And your the one that thinks diamonds are special, they are'nt you are
tell that to the chick who blew that d and almst died by swallow,wow chicks be dumb
That music while you were grinding the triangle.. good god, that was fantastic. Incredible music. And the editing was beautiful as well.
Oh what i would i give to be your fulltime welder. The projects you undertake are ALWAYS interesting. And ive always wanted to learn and become a blacksmith. Love your videos. Please keep it up.
I showed this video to my wife. The first thing out of her mouth? "His glasses are dirty!!"
Mossyrock6
Hahaha、i think we'd get along :)
Just asking but would it not of been better to drill the hole in the side
Would it not sit better on the neck that way
Thank you Stephen
Proper grammar is "would it not HAVE been" I'm sorry but this is the visual equivalent of nails on a chalkboard. Teachers stopped doing their jobs in the 90s? I'm assuming your age I know. But the contraction "would've" cannot be worked out as "would of" think about what that means. Would of? No. Nails on a chalkboard.
"Would't've" is my gift to the world. "Would-it have" would't've! The rare and exotic triple contraction!😝
No because he added the silver ring.
@Eric French, maybe he was voice dictating the text and just didn’t see where his virtual assistant heard him wrong.
@@Finn-McCool You're joking right ? I mean you're not actually upset about Grammar (that isn't even bad by UA-cam standards)
@@astang1072 you cannot get any modern voice dictation to actually write out the words "would of" one after the other because; and I'm assuming here, it's the first thing the voice recognition geniuses on Microsoft Windows 2K made sure of when they embarked on this journey. Kind of like trying to get voice recognition to write out "better then", you'll get "better thin" before you ever see "better then" without a comma of course. As in "I was feeling better, then I got worse" or "I feel better thin" never "his grammar is better *then* his" because it will ALWAYS suggest the word THAN after the word BETTER! 😜
Guys come on, I'm not bitter.
You know how to console a grammar Nazi?
"There
Their
They're
It's gonna be ok"😂
loving the new editing style on this episode!
I love the non-blade projects that you create, I definitely prefer them.
Damascus looks like pewdiepie's design
Can you make a Magic Wand in damascus?
Therea May needs one real bad....
Please tell me you meant to refer to the British Prime Minister Theresa May.
@@amenra4668
Way to get all anal about a typo. Loosen up a bit, you're sounding too butthurt.
By the way, if you insist on full titles, there are quite a few she has earned but wouldn't like to hear.
@@christophersavignon4191 What if's are not that of Truth. They are only that which "may" (and I quote may as maybe, for how is it that you truly know if I do not from your question) be that of truth. For your accusation "may" (again just may be that which you and nor I know, for maybe I do and you do not);
Be just that of am accusation. For I came and accused not, but you did come forth and made accusation.
@@amenra4668
Your butthurt is clearly visible for everyone.
There are no hypotheticals or accusations, only judgement of the behavior you have put on display yourself.
Now take your bleeding butt and begone.
You and Will are so artistic ,everything doesn't have to be perfect and you don't have to go by the numbers every time ,half of the time the flaws are what makes something beautiful
Nice! I love that you got straight to a solution when something is off, or different than your expected outcome.
What is keeping you guys from finishing the sword?
He explains at the end of the video
He freehands the stone triangle.
Mathematical mind is cringing but trusting his skill.
Comes out and isn't in line with the main triangle...
Mathematical mind starts crying.
wow that music is amazing, it would be right at home in Ghost in the Shell. Definitely a worthy soundtrack for making such a cool pendant
from blacksmith to bladesmith to jeweler, quite a transition, alec!
next proyect, Platinum/Gold Damascus!
I don't think I've ever been this early. 😂😂
Was I the only one who thought coffee etch when you said there wasn't enough contrast?
Amazing work. Gorgeous result. Keep up the outstanding work Alec. Love your channel.
I was like : Coffee etch time
this is the the alec videos I have been missing
You and ZNA productions should collaborate
Especially since Eli's gonna do a sword soon
That pattern looks like PewdiePie's merch stuff!
Great billet of mokume gane and pendant Alec! Your power tools are making me drool. You seem to have studied non-ferrous metals and stone setting, but you haven't followed some processes I learned and I would love to know why. MAKING the mokume gane: I learned to fuse the billet in one heating and to apply pressure while doing so. You can see the fuse point and remove the heat right away. HOT forging: I have never seen hot forging for non-ferrous metals. These are softer when quenched as soon as the red dulls. The molecules stay misaligned for a longer period of time. Don't know if the electric forging machine would make the metal too hard right away. I would usually make a billet and after quenching, forge till 1/3 to 1/2 the thickness annealing along the way, then run the billet thru a rolling mill to reduce the thickness annealing when the metal gets too hard. So have you tried doing the process the goldsmith way of doing things and chosen to switch to the steel way deliberately? I could have done better writing this but it is late. Jo in Philadelphia PA
The moment when it goes cold he hammers and said it cracked got me lol