The Sex Pistols - Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?
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Sex Pistols legend Paul Cook sits down with Graham Hartmann (@grahamwire) to prove and disprove what's written about the punk band.
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Kudos to the interviewer, he actually let Paul speak when he was talking unlike most talk shows now.
Gruhammed is the man!
grahams content is the best in the metal side of yt, great compilations, interviews, documentarys, etc
Out of the Pistols Paul Cook is the one that would the best to know in real life, he comes over as a total gent.
agreed. definitely seems the most level headed of the bunch.
I met Glen Matlock after his solo gig in Auckland New Zealand in 2017. Very humble, nice guy who wanted to make sure everyone enjoyed the gig.
I feel Steve Jones would probably be the same.
And probably the best actual musician. Steve Jones eventually became a pretty sturdy rhythm player. But Paul Cook really is probably one of the most underrated drummers in the punk world. He hit hard and he was always on time
"They do get that wrong sometimes"
Stacci Guma Those words will be on Gruhamed's epitaph.
"They do get that wrong sometimes" (2)
hahaha great :D
I'd buy a t-shirt with this on it.
Read this exactly as he said it lmao
paul cook is a legend, nevermind the bollocks never gets old, such a perfect punk rock album, really a perfect rock n roll album!
@TheGooners11 I'd venture to say that Glen Matlock did most of the writing.
No many bands have done an album that decades later still sounds like it was recorded yesterday bollocks is one of them.
@@Robcatist Awesome album. "No Feelings" is my favorite song from it
TheGooners11 Glen Matlock actually
I still remember hearing it for the first time. I remember not being shocked, as so many journalists would claim, but actually impressed. "Well well, another honest to goodness rock band!" I was already a fan of the Ramones and the like, but I miss that feeling that rock music was finally coming back around.
I'm over 60 so I was a teen into jep, Sabbath, purple, basically 70's heavy metal and i remember hearing all these rumors of this abomination called punk rock, well one day I was listening to the radio and this totally bad ass guitar riff starting playing and I'm like really into it and then this guy starts singing"god save the queen", wennt out that day and bought the import copy of nmtb, over 40years later and it's still in regular rotation on my play list.
I was shopping for records in Penguin Feather Records in Vienna Virginia as a teenager and they were playing Nevermind The Bollocks when God Save The Queen came on I asked the cashier, "who is this band?" I left with some shiny new punk rock vinyl.
Wow! thanks for sharing!
What a great memory!
Francoise Hardy, 1960's
I was I6 in 78 so right on it .In the 90s I thought Pistols music had aged badly but in 2020 I love it again and Steve Jones's intro for Pretty vacant still sends a shiver down my spine
Mr. Cook was RIGHT about Adam Ant (then known as Stuart Goddard) being a member of Bazooka Joe! He quit the band when he realized that HE was the ONLY band member who actually enjoyed the Sex Pistols performance. This had a direct influence on him to adopt the Punk style and create the Adam Ant persona. True story
Cooky is one of the biggest underrated drummers of all time,listen carefully... he's amazing
At last, waaaay overdue. Pistols are my favourite punk band of all time
paved the way for modern heavy metal bands as well.rotten,jonesy not sure on cookie or glen were a bit fans of old school metal,hard rock,proto punk bands sabbath,hawkwind,alice cooper,stooges even some bit of prog rock floyd,genesis,can,van der graaf generator etc.i know the fact that they used to shit sling prog bands for being 'over the top overindulgent'.other ol school punks as well shit slinging old bands.
i mean estasblished bands dismissing them trashing their heroes beatles,stones,who,zeppelin etc.ol 1970s punks used to slam them in those days.now they're getting old probably not so much sure some ol punks still trashing them now.or former fans themselves.
Crass imo, Pistols a close second.
Angelo Catapang I just finished Steve Jones autobiography.While in the Pistols he used to hide and listen to Boston.
the Pistols were pioneers in the sense of encouraging people to play, even though they didn't know shit diddly about music, which really is pioneering, I started to play guitar as soon as I heard the Pistols, but the Damned for example were much better musicians, with that same outrageous sense of humour as the pistols, but, if I was put on the spot to name the best punk band because of brilliant songs and chemistry, it's got to be The Ruts, they fucking rock and they got street cred, but from a fuck it all perspective, The Ramones, and another fave of mine was the Cockney Rejects, they were bloody good y'know
So Bowie had a part in the coming together of the band 😃
Paul was/is a great drummer & rock solid behind the pistols! Him & Steve gave them their distinctive sound, complimented beautifully by the snarling JR & not forgetting the bass artistry of Glen!
Rob Kane But then along came Sid and Nancy😵😵😵😵
glen was on hardly any of their songs
@@justinogle150 Except for writing them and doing all the demos?
@@justinogle150 yea, just their hits
Bleh
After Glen left, Steve and Paul were the musical backbone of that band. Perfect combination of attitude and musicianship.
Wow,this has been quite a season of Fact or Fiction,thanks for this
skijumpnose still waiting for the Bruce Dickinson segment even tho they’ve had him on a few times...:(
Love Paul Cook, the backbone of the Pistols, what a life he's had!
Fact or Fiction with Robert Smith of The Cure please!!
YES
Loudwire: "is it true you're into underage boys?"
Robert Smith: " of course, I'm a homosexual, pedophilia is just part of the lifestyle "
Loudwire: "OK let's try to find some fiction"
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b what are you going on about I've never heard such a thing about Robert Smith
Tide Pods are Vegan Goodness Change Robert Smith to Gary Glitter and that would be fact.
With Simon in the background making sure Robert doesn't lie.
This is one of the best Sex Pistols interviews I've seen... most of the ones I've seen have been with Johnny Rotten, Malcolm MacLaren and a few with Glen Matlock. This makes a change. A lot of new stuff here.
"You've got to understand, we were very poor..."
Oh well then, case dismissed.
Yeah. This is bullshit. You don't steal from musicians.
MrCaliforniaD No one cares, it’s the bloody sex pistols they can do whatever the fuck they want
@@MrCaliforniaD Bowie and Genesis could afford to take the loss.
I bet that Bowie didn't loose any sleep over it....✌🏼
So were probably those guys they stole from.... apart from Bowie... Yeah that is a big NO... But that is what punk was... They didn't give a fuck and were assholes...
My thoughts exactly. Unjustifiable.
As great as Lydon was as a front man during the Sex Pistols run, its Cook and Jones band. They're the heart of it if you know the story of the Pistols.
Yep. All the stolen gear started them off!
Each and every member of the Sex Pistols were the heart of the band, if Lydon, Jones, Cook, or Vicious leaved the band, the Sex Pistols would just disband, that's why they didnt Made another album without Sid, if Lydon, or Jones, or Cook wouldn't be in the band origins, they wouldn't have been so famous for sure
@@fasulimac92 Sid wasn't the heart of anything. He didn't even know how to play his instrument and 98% of the music was written with Glenn Matlock before Sid joined the band. If Matlock remained in the band maybe they would've had a chance to continue but there were also too many egos in that band and Malcolm was a shitty manager. Steve Jones has even said this. Also had Sid never joined, maybe he would've survived. There would've really been no Sid and Nancy as she likely wouldn't have hooked up with him if he were not in a band. Lydon said his ego skyrocketed when he joined the band and didn't give a shit about anything but the attention, the look which he felt was more important than the music.
@@Peppers19781978 it was Sid who gave them the publicity. Yes he wasn't a good musician. But his character embodied "Punk" and it gave them much more attention in the punk scene.
This is actually quite a good format for an interview.
Top interview, I really enjoyed it, flowed so well, Paul comes across as a straight up, down to earth guy
Love this series! 🤘
Digital Tour Bus I️ love your series as well!
I love your series!
always been a hardcore Pistols fan....Never knew Steve played Bass on the Bollocks album. Always thought it was Glenn ! well I learned something today !
Steve has the most unique sound, his own style.
Bodies has one of the best riffs ever
His intro to Pretty Vacant is my personal favorite.
Graham, this is where your interviewing uniqueness shines! Excellent counterplay and really easy conversation to watch and listen to.
The first demos The Pistols recorded were captured on a somewhat portable 4 track device, which was bought from a guy in Oxford. A member of the band, or a friend, showed up at this geezers house claiming to use the 4 Track device for "the next big thing" - dropping the name The Sex Pistols. The guy selling the 4 track simply shrugs and hands him the 4 track without giving it any more thought.
A couple of months pass and the band release their first single. The guy from Oxford is stunned, seeing that the claimed "next big thing" had used his 4 track to get some more attention and/or possibly the record deal. It gets even weirder. Turns out that guy from Oxford is my dad.
Joint Venture Names please.
Anon B My dad's name is Les and he played drums in a band called Steamroller.
Freaking AWESOME
oh my goD
Well so apparently your dad would have been a scared guy, not having the guts to go for something big by himself, I dont think your dad would have kept going to capture things in a device after being stabbed
Paul Cook and Steve Jones were actually pretty decent musicians. Sid............nah.
Sid wasn't a musician at all - he was there only because of his look.
A quick listen to the solo from anarchy confirms this
@@thedudemkii5381 Both solos!
@@adambird-ridnell6415 the second one isn't much of a solo, the first one nails my point like a feedback drenched hammer
@@thedudemkii5381 if Steve Jones says it’s a solo, it’s a solo
The Johnny Rotten thing about being left in LA (according to Johnny) is true.
John says one thing one minute and another thing the next. It's hard to believe what is true with him.
Slayer Did it Better actually i believe it was san jose ca .That
Johnny was dumped with the road crew in a motel. Read his bio.
The Johnny Rotten thing does sound like John moaning, though. That was never used in the lawsuit, which you'd think would be something worth bringing up if you were Lydon.
Glen Matlock did play on one song on Bollocks though: Anarchy in the U.K. That song was recorded before the album and released as a single on 26.11.1976. You can easily tell Glen's playing on this one as opposed to every other song on the album which Jonesy did.
Glen Matlock played most of the bass on NMTB. Sid was still learning and not up to recording std.
Giles Brett if you read Jonesey’s book it’s him playing the bass , Sid was hospitalized at the time with hepatitis and Matlock was history.
@@MrBumat correct, don't know what I was thinking ! Jonesy is our homeboy😀
I was glad to see Cookie clear this up. Johnny Rotten claimed in his book Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs that Matlock came back and played bass on the album, but I always wondered if that were true why didn't he play the bass lines he used to play live. The style is completely different. It makes much more sense that it was Steve Jones on the album.
@@kaptinshazbat7535 I’d prefer to believe a man who was there at the time
The Ramones pissed in the beers and Johnny Rotten drank it?
Fact.
Fact ??.....
Kris B they also set the tone and stage for the sex pistols. IMO the Ramone are much better.
@@garywilson3042 the ramones weren't punk just some shit yank excuse trying to copy UK punk.....they failed fact!
FICTION! lolol
Cris Raven tf are you talking about, ramones started 1974, the uk scene came off from the NY scene
I saw the Professionals play in a club in Mt Vernon NY, back when their first album came out. Steve and Paul were around after the show hanging out with people which was pretty cool.
Great episode, got some good ones this season :) this guy is a pure legend.
you guys need to do something with Johnny Rotten/ John Lydon he's a major legend that doesn't get the attention he deserves his work with PiL is highly underrated
We still see them play here.
Yess
The interviewer would never get a word in.
You have no idea how long I have been waiting for this
Say what you want about their musicianship, this band changed music more than almost any band in history. Paul Cook is a true legend.
What a fantastic interview. This will be appreciated for generations.
Great format for an interview, and even better with Cooky. Thanks for sharing
That's a great fucking scarf he has on... just saying
Graham, you are an excellent interviewer. You always put your subjects at ease, thereby getting great, honest answers. Great work!
And you still breaking the scene Loudwire, keep this level, is simply awesome what you're doing, thanks a fucking lot
I've been waitin for this episode forever
Well-conducted interview, thanks!
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FoolishFlock The Sex Pistols never had periods. They were men.
first thing I've watched all the way through on youtube for ages. nice one Paul
thoroughly enjoyed listening to this. very interesting. great to hear two inteligent guys having a conversation for a change
Cook has always been brilliant. So unassuming. Yet such a consumate star. He comes across as a decent, patient, normal bloke
It's so sick to imagine him while playing drums in Anarchy In The Uk and seeing him now
You guys should do paul simonon of the clash
Austin Bowman Or Mick Jones
Yeah I'd be more on board for Mick Jones, could ask him some stuff about Big Audio Dynamite too it's quite hard to find out much information about that
lzw3 didn't he pass away?
T Crane Who? Mick? Nah, I'm pretty sure he still alive.
MasterAD 2247 my apologies.. I was thinking of Joe Strummer..
Another great interview
Great interview,and the guy asking the questions very good
Cooky was always well spoken and intelligent,but Johnny was the frontman and the focus.
He seems like my grandpa , I cant belive he was a punk rocker
Great interview , cheers Paul.
Henry Rollins Fact or Fiction
insanityisawesome97 yes please!!!
Henry Rollins is a CUNT...FACT
He also lost his mind and became a crazy sjw
Boring
He’s pretty much lost his mind and acts like no one deserves his time. It would be nice to watch, but I wouldn’t want to watch Rollins act like the interviewer is bothering him
Jonesy and P Cook performing with Generation Sex at Glastonbury kicked ass. 😎🏴☠️😎True legends, humble men.👍🏼
Fact or fiction
Stuart Godard aka Adam Ant was not the singer in Bazooka Joe, he played bass guitar. Danny Kleinman was the singer and lead guitarist.
They were a rockabilly group. Both were studying a degree course in graphic design along with John Ellis who formed the band The Vibrators. We were all students at Middlesex Polytechnic, which used to be called Hornsey College of Art. The site was in and old stable yard, on the Bounds Green Road not far from Palmers Green. Adam Ant became a good friend of John Lyndon. Danny went over to the States with Adam and now produces the title sequences to the Bond Movies. I designed Adams first album, Dirk Wears White Sox, produced by Do It Records after he was sacked by Malcolm McLaren from his own band. Biggest mistake McLaren ever made. He wasn’t very smart at picking talent.
He was full of bullshit as John Lyndon will testify to. Adam and John got shafted by that crook. Well the old crook is dead and won’t be robbing people anymore. The shyster.
Fact not fiction.
Cookie is such a cool guy. Wish more people would interview him. Great interview!
Good stuff. Loved the Pistols growing up and still have then on my playlist.
Legend....great interview dude.
Love how awkward paul always seems in interviews (he probably isn’t just seems it). Unless it’s on jonseys jukebox
Met Paul backstage of a Chiefs of Relief gig back in the 80's. Good geezer Paul.
Stuart Goddard (later Adam Ant) played bass in "Bazooka Joe"--a very short-lived band that also featured future comedian Arabella Weir (The Fast Show, Posh Nosh).
Glen did play bass guitar on "Anarchy in the UK". I think they tried to hush it up but Bill Price the engineer let it slip.
Been a pistols fan ever since I was 12, discovered in 1986 while I was watching "The Rock'n Roll Swindle" late one night on the TV, but never to be on again I might add. But in all my observations Paul Cook always seemed to allude attention being the quite one in the background. Turn's out he was rather grounded, studying to be a sparky.
Good interview!
Great stuff. Very informative. Not only for Punk fans.
The problem is that Never Mind The Bollocks was the second punk rock album I listened to, the Ramones were the first. After Never Mind, everything else was second rate, sonicly, and lyrically. great sound and atmosphere on the record, holds up today, big time.
The thing with fiction being on Wikipedia about the Sex Pistols is that there's just SO MUCH fiction about the Pistols in print from various sources. Things that get written on Wikipedia usually don't last long if they aren't backed by sources. So rather than being corrected, it's more likely that Paul's "claims" (which I accept as factual) would just be added, with this video as the source.
Stuart Goddard (later to become Adam Ant) was the bass player in Bazooka Joe and his Rhythm Hot Shots
Love you Paul you legend. Good interview. Good interviewer too.
Nice to see Paul is ok bc I hadn’t heard anything of him since way back then. I always thought he was prattling about with drum sticks up his nose but I’m impressed with his presence! He actually reminds me of the late David Carradine who had a relaxed focused manner of speaking to someone. Very similar face expressions brown eyes which are warmer anyway. Yes I had a few conversations with David ( carradine)
how'd you come to converse with Carradine?
Thank you for this appreciate it
, Really sensible, educated and mature in this inteview.
Thank you very much.
the algo gets it right. Great interview 👍
Mr.Cook is one of the best. Love this man.
Please do Steve Jones fact of fiction . Dude is a riot and a legend and guaranteed to " ave a laugh"
This kid does a top job here,gives Paul the room to answer the questions and tastefully goes off on the odd tangent.Well done.
Very cool, honest, and humble bloke!
Thanks Paul, for making the point to note Adam Ant in Bazooka Joe. Anyone from the UK remember Bazooka Joe bubblegum in the 70s? It came with a wee cartoon strip, i'm positive. I remember the blackcurrant flavour.
Cooky is the best, top bloke.
He always seemed so kind and sweet and genuine.
seems
The album is a milestone in rock history and even though Paul was a rookie his contribution couldn't have been better. Steve, John and Paul really had the chemistry.
Adam Ant was Bazooka Joe's bass player.
Gotta love Adam Ant!
Says it on Wikipedia so it must be true!
Small world. Wouldn't want to paint it though.
@@davestone5963 No no this is actually confirmed by the other members of Bazooka Joe.. they featured in a documentary to do with Adam's career.
pauls a good guy great wee drummer his beats splashy cymbils and great accenting the riffs
This is my favorite of all these.
Sid was actually a good bass player, the only song he actually played bass on was "Bodies", and he did a very well job. Drugs was his problem, he couldnt hardly perform because of it. If he never did drugs he wouldve made an excellent bass player.
Still play the sex pistols, used to sing out loud to their songs, amazing band.
Steve Jones was in "various institutions at the time"...LOL
Bazooka Joe or Bazooka Joe and the Lillets were a British pub rock band formed by John Ellis and Danny Kleinman in 1970. They featured bass player Stuart Goddard, who would later change his name to Adam Ant.
Brillant interview
We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!
You know Paul with that smile, has something to hide - when the bananarama question came up 13:19
Haha
nice one Mr Cook good interview
BY FAR (LIGHT YEARS) THE MOST LEGENDARY GUEST EVER ~ The way he introduces him is NOT EVEN A JUST INTRODUCTION FOR THIS MAN ! The mere FACT THAT YOU HAVE HIM ON THE SHOW IS LEGENDARY
You should do Dead kenedys Well maybe just Jello...
Dead Fox trying to get them to all agree would be hard, so yeah jello would be great
You could just watch his interview with Nardwuar in the meantime...
Have two separate interviews with the same questions. One with Jello Biafra, the other with East Bay Ray (guitarist & founder of Dead Kennedy's). The discrepancies would be interesting.
I do not agree much with what Jello says nowadays, he is too much of a SJW commie marxist libtard for me. The "blame white men for everything" narrative has been overplayed and pisses me off.
Sometimes he does get a bit like that though he's not full sjw.
Kelpie
True. Really more of an anti-corporation/globalist anarchist which is a consistent position he has held and has merit. It is the leftist/marxist baggage that comes with it where things go off the rails.
He's been taking classes in the "Chris Jericho's school of scarves" I see
@keechmabreeks it's a joke mate, breathe, it's all going to be okay
keechmabreeks idiot lmfao
@Government Enemy ! gr8 b8 m8
@keechmabreeks "you just made the list"
@@yallevereatenbeans2723 You're projecting your issues.
I believe (although I could be wrong) this Dave Goodman version of Anarchy is available on The Great Rock n Roll Swindle. I always liked the raw sound of it.
It is. Goodman said he wanted the song to be the noisiest and heaviest song around and to be honest back in '76, if his version of Anarchy had been released, it may well have been. I have read it was both EMI and the band who were dismissive of it and went with Thomas who did a great job albeit it ended up slower and more polished which probably pleased the band as they have all said at some point they were more into having a tight controlled sound rather than speeding along. I think a British visit by The Ramones around the same time had more of an influence on the likes of The Damned and The Clash in terms of thrashing away than they ever did on the Pistols.
My two cents: Cooky was a rock solid meat-and-potatoes drummer who had great groove. Steve Jones' guitar playing was latex tight and very rock'n roll. Exceptional guitar playing and guitar sound on "...Bollocks" (with the assistance of Chris Thomas and Bill Price). Glen Matlock's writing talent and bass playing was unquestionably brilliant (I was sad to see him go). John Lydon was the perfect frontman, equipped with provocative lyrics, unique vocals, clever one-liners and a cool look. Sid Vicious was...well, he couldn't play but was truly the perfect punkrock poster boy (and sadly a junkie). On July 28, 1977, the 15-year old version of me saw Sex Pistols live in my city Stockholm. I was gobsmacked...and it changed my life.
You should totally have Tom G Warrior sometime!
Paul Cook is a great drummer. Make a point of seeing him in concert some time if you ever get the chance. I saw him with Edwyn Collins years ago and was blown away.
@Jeff Baker I don't. Where can I hear it?
One of the roadies from Motorhead also talked about the Teddy Boys with similar stories.
What a great bloke!!!!!! and always enjoyed his drum work