Everything Wrong With Hercules In 17 Minutes Or Less
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Hercules is the Disney movie that time forgot. It's in between the good ones and the not-as-good ones... but it's pretty good! memorable songs, fun villain. Oh, and plenty of sins.
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The worst part of this movie is the fact that they made Hades the villain even though he was lowkey the only Olympian to maintain a stable and loving marriage
Well his marriage was still fucked up cause it began by him kidnapping Persephone and them making a deal that she had to stay with him for half the year, every year. So yes he is the one god that does less awful shit to his spouse. However calling that a stable and loving marriage is a stretch.
@@123iceboy I mean, compared to the rest it's stable
@@domizzy1348 stable yes, loving I don't know though ^^
@@pesticide271 I like your answer, but two problems: 1 There is no accepted text where she is not being abducted while picking flowers. 2 The whole she came around to Hades is a modern post beauty and the beast story to make Cores transformation into Persephone her own decision and not Hades's "fault"
However nice this sounds, sadly this does not make sense looking at the historical evidence of the cult of Persephone and Demeter, which saw all of Hades actions as problematic at least!
@@123iceboy so 365 days was actually inspired by greek mythology? incredible
Should have sinned Hades being a villain when he was the most chill god. And sinned the lack of Persephone.
I think there's actually a brief shot of Persephone in the background in Olympus (at the end, I think) standing behind Demeter. She's pink and has a headband or crown or something that looks like flower petals. It's possible the movie just took place before Hades kidnapped her.
@@amandabutcher23 then movie is wrong another sin but yeah she was there
technically couldve been in spring, she is only with him for two of the three seasons: summer and autumn cause back then they didnt have winter in greece.
Well, the Disney version goes on to link all characters in a way in the Descendants movies. Hades and Maleficent have a kid named Mal. Maleficent is completely crazy, so Hades bounced when Mal was a baby. He goes on to have two, maybe three more children from one or two more women. But you have to read the books for information on the other kids.
@@charamcnuggers9534 huh TIL
The “only six planets” thing is actually kind of a win for historical accuracy. Those were the only ones the Greeks knew about
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Although not by lack of intellect it’s just only possible to see 6 of the planets through the naked eye
This is because there were no telescopes back then. Uranus and Neptune are not visible to the naked eye.
@@anonymoususer3012 Still wonder why the planets are named after the Roman versions if they where discovered by the greeks....then again the romans had a much wider sphere of power
People consider that there where seven planets at the time, in decreasing order of period : Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Venus, Mercury and the Moon. They gave the name of the days of the weeks in many different cultures/language.
I'm 90% percent sure the director mixed up Hera, who actually tried to kill Hercules, with hades, since they both have H names, and was just like "well whatever, no one will notice"
Or it's because pop culture Christianity meant Lord of the Underworld = Satan
@@mariustan9275 Yeah, if this movie had been made recently during the era where Disney actually seems to be striving for accuracy I might've agreed with OP but this is a 90's movie. "Back then" they just shoved everything into the mold of American culture and called it a day lol
I think this is because they couldn't get away with the themes of Zeus sticking his lightening bolt into everything whilst being married to his jealous sister-wife in a KIDS MOVIE. So they made Hera the mother of Hercules and Hades the villian to tell the story in a way that wouldn't get parents all worked up about it being inappropriate for children.
And no, it has nothing to do with Christians thinking Hades is Satan. 😑
Blue fire is hotter than red fire. So whenever Hades gets angry, he's actually just getting colder.
Yup he should have been red when chill and blue when angry
I guess you could say he's blowing off steam??
Also Gods are generally depicted as pretty close to human, the titans aren't too far off from humanoid, the only God with fire for hair is Hyperion the Titan of North, The God of Divine Light and Fire. He also has glowing white eyes his symbol is a torch his children are Helios and Saleen.
He went to the same anger managment class as Joe Biden.
That's probably bad for him. Being calm when he is supposed to be the ruler of the underworld isnt something he should be
The reason why Aphrodite kissed Phil was because he was played by Danny Devito and he is irresistible in every form
Wait Phil was Danny Devito?
@@isaiah9501 yeah, you didn't know that?
1 sin off now that we know that
also shes not even a nymph, Jeremy! She's 🎶APHRODITE APHRODITE APHRODIIIITEEEEEEE! THE GODDESS OF LOVE!💕
Duh
Fun Fact: The “nymph” kissing Phil at the end is actually the Goddess of Love, Aphrodite. This is previously stated by Hades when he crashes Hercules’ birthday party and mockingly compliments her outfit in the Spanish dub and her identity is confirmed in the Hercules TV show.
This also raises three concerns with this depiction:
1. In myth, Aphrodite is married to Hephaestus, who was giving Zeus the thunderbolts during the Olympus fight scenes in the movie, which makes the make out session an instance of Aphrodite cheating on her husband.
2. This scene would be regrettably accurate to myth, since Aphrodite cheats on Hephaestus with as many people as she likes, she even has the hots for Ares, the God of War, and doesn’t even bother to hide it whatsoever.
And 3. This is a hidden cheating scene of Greek Mythology lore adapted into a DISNEY animated feature, which was, is and will continue to be watched by hundreds of CHILDREN and parents all over the globe without most people knowing or maybe someone knowing but finding it to be an interesting, mythology geek Easter Egg like most of us do.
It's worst than you think. Ares is Hephestus's brother, full-blood brother in some version. Zeus and Hera have had two children tops.
So Hephaestus, often described as the ugliest olympian god, was married to Aphrodite, the most beautiful goddess? My knowledge in greek mythology is lacking these days, never knew that.
@@dogalrorn Hephaestus eventually gets so fed up with the adultery, that he divorced her, then was wedded to Athena. As a sworn virgin goddess, they never engaged in intercourse.
I thought he was just doing this for laughs…… *ding*
Didn't it go l that Zeus and Hera had a baby, and that was Hephaestus, but he was so ugly that Hera threw him down into a forge or smthn, and I certainly don't think he was ever married to Aphrodite
I remember seeing this in theaters as a teen and laughing hysterically at that hydra scene when Panic said, "Quick, somebody call IXII!"
That was hilarious 😆
Kinda weird considering those are roman numerals and roam doesn't exist yet
The best didn't make infinite heads, it would just regrow the ones cut off. And he beat it by burning the necks after he cut them off, cauterizing the wound. The final head he actually crushed with boulders....so that part is kinda correct.
Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief book was better same with that whole series cuz I read it all when I was a kid
Lmao, same
"Can gods even get drunk?"
Dionysus: Am I a joke to you?
Also am I a joke to him
@@thegodofimagination xd
@Ahtashajahnae Cook yes we can why do you think I stabbed Jesus once or twice (it was 3 times I did 3rdwhile he was asleep don't tell him)
@Ahtashajahnae Cook I think they can probably choose to become drunk. Like if they don’t want to they won’t, but if they want to get a bit tipsy they can because they’re, yknow, gods
I would like but you have 666 like
The biggest “haha no❤️” thing about this movie is that it’s shown that Zeus and Hera had a healthy relationship and loved each other
And that she loved Herakles
@@setgiga_3397 her son?
@@TCt83067695 thats the problem. It actually wasn't her son. Zeus had an affair and Hera couldn't kill zeus, because he's a God. So she trys to kill herakles
Wells this is the Disney version soooooooooooo...
reptile sceptile Well if you want to get technical, Zeus and Hera did love each other, it was just a very awful relationship with Zeus’ cheating and Hera killing the mortals that slept with him, even if the women didn’t know the man was Zeus. And the outcast backstory was far from what actually happened to Heracles (Greek name for Hercules). He had his own family until Hera made him go insane and kill his wife and children. Not exactly family friendly. His trials were to get redemption for killing his family and forgiveness from Hera.
Something I think that Cinema Sins missed is that the Greek version of the tale his name is Heracles, while the roman version was Hercules. Also, Hera was not Heracles's mother. It was a mortal named Alcmene, sooooo yeah Heracles is born a Demigod. Not a god.
16:24 ExCuSe Me SiR!!! That ain’t a nymph, that is the GODDESS OF LOVE, APHRODITE. She’d be pretty pissed that you even called her a nymph and probably curse you by turning you into krill.
lol! Yeah! Exactly! It was Aphrodite, not a random nymph! XD
In mythology, Hades was the only one who didn’t suck at being rational.
And Thanatos, for the most part
Yeah by all means he loved his wife and keeps his promises.
Yeah he kidnapped her but this was a time where kidnapping your future wife wasnt as frowned upon. Tbh the majority of his problems came from Olympus and those brothers who tried to kidnap his wife and then that guy who wanted to get his wife back but hey it's not Hades's fault the guy did the one thing he told him not to do
@@Vox-tale2322 Even then... the reason why Hades kidnapped Persephone because he asked ZEUS for relationship advice. Yikes, there were better people to ask...
Lol
Yep
The only thing wrong about Hercules is that they depicted Zues as a *loving and caring father*
He wasn't a terrible dad... just way too focused on making new kids to spend much time with his existing ones.
And hades was depicted as basically the devil, but he was actually a pretty decent guy compared to the other gods.
@@seanmg9356 yeah he's probably one of the most chill
Cendaquenta Books he was a serial rapist who never cared about the women’s lives he ruined.
And they depicted him as faithful to hera. PFFT YEAH RIGHT! ZEUS? FAITHFUL? NO WAY.
3:13 To answer your question, that's because the ancient Greeks actually had seven planets, but two of them were the Sun and Moon, and Earth was considered the center of the universe. Later in the movie when the planets actually align, we see that it's Mercury through Saturn, which roughly fits with this logic.
It's not a "cocktail party" the gods drink "nectar" a heavenly drink. That was actually one, (if not the only) detail that was accurate
@Megalisa830 Bright
They are often confused with each other, bu Nectar's the drink, Ambrosia's the food
@@eaterbattery lol! That's right! I just remembered that! XD
that's why it's called wait for it.. Nectar of the Gods... the more you know 🤣🤣
-Persephone not being included
-Hades being the bad guy, when really he's easily one of the most honourable amongst the Gods (keeps his promises, faithful to his wife, genuinely loves his wife)
-Heracles being Hera's child (which he's not)
-Persephone is actually the one people are scared of when it comes to the underworld deities
king of the dead? yeah he's fine
queen of the dead? ........RUN
Bad guys are not bad lovers
@@little-wolfyluna5302 they don't call her the Iron Queen for nothing.
-Hercules being Hera's most hated stepchild and tries to kill him a lot.
@@simron513 He's not really bad, just simply the God of the Underworld.
- His name is actually Heracles
- He was trained by a centaur named Chiron, not a satyr named Phil
- Hades being the villain
- Hera not being the villain
- Pegasus belonged to Bellerophon not Heracles
Edit: wrong pegasus owner
Actually a guy named Bellerophon owned Pegasus and he lost Pegasus because he was flying to Olympus with it and Zeus decided to kill him and take Pegasus
Zeus did not make Pegasus. He formed from Medusa’s blood when Perseus beheaded her
-The muses are nine not five
-Heracles actually killed Megara and after he became immortal he got married to the Goddess of youth Hebe
- Hermes and Athena helped Heracles several times but Disney decided to discredit them
@@luv131_7 in this movie they mention the Labors he does but he was sent to do those after killing his wife Megara and their kids. There's a lot incorrect in this flick
But aren't there 2 names each time? Like Zeus is Jupiter, or Poseidon is Neptune?
"Zeus did nothing to find his son or save him when he went missing"
Sounds historically/mythological accurate to me.
I like most of your complaints but this one at 14:23 that's Hephaestus, the god of the forge and fire crafting Zeus's lightning bolts which is how they're made in greek mythology
One of the most accurate things in this movie is that zeus ignored hercules until he was somewhat important
Fax
And THAT’s the gospel truth
fun fact: Zeus having someone construct his lightning for him to throw is actually accurate
explain pls
@@eldani007 Zeus' lightning was forged by the cyclopes (multiple cyclops), and he was eventually given a bucket containing infinite of them so that he could fight against the Titans
@@edenengland1883 XD
@@eldani007 yeah greek mythology is weird
@@edenengland1883 and funny though
jeremy: "hell, can they even get drunk anyway?"
dionisus: *dies in axious
"Honey you mean HUNK-u-les!"
No, you mean Heracles...
That's not a nymph kissing Phil that's APHRODITE.
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She looked like them. Fair enough.
I'm glad someone else beat me to it
I was literally scrolling down to comment the same thing :')
Or should we say, “Aphrodite, Aphrodite, Aphrodiiiiiteeeee, the goddess of love!” Surely the cartoon spinoff series matters.
The planets being fewer is actually historically accurate; that's how many planets people thought there were at the time.
And yet this still is an inaccuracy, there were *seven* planets, not six...
@@adrianblake8876 : 7 including Sun and Moon but not Earth.
I don’t think it’s accurate because they’re gods. So would they not know all of the planets?
@@starywoodstudios6469 : We now know that the Greek gods don't exist, so wouldn't the gods know that they don't exist? No, of course not; this takes place in a fictional world, the fictional world of Greek mythology (as distorted through the lens of Disney). And in that world, those other planets don't exist.
Yes, it is a fictional movie. Which makes it okay for them to say that the Greek gods exist. Since nobody thinks they really mean it.
The "underling" making the bolts for Zeus is Hephaestus and he is in weaponry for the gods. He's also a god and Zeus's son, I think he might genuinely be a full blooded child of gods, unlike Hercules.
Yeah Hephaestus is a god, Heracles is a demigod
Hephaestus and Ares are the only true children from Zeus and Hera, and funny enough. Aphrodite married Hephaestus and was in love and constantly hooking up with Ares
"uh i dont think you should be so rude to HERCULES!! hes the son of zeus!"
"also he can kill you really easily i think thats the main thing.."
Extra sin: The fact that Phil said that Perseus failed at being a hero is bullshit. He was one of the only Greek heroes that actually got a happy ending.
Why do I have the feeling we all just know that because of Percy Jackson?
@@beyney4727 Shhhhh.
@@plipplopproductions4347 okay =| we gotta keep our sources secret
@@TurtleTime26 Andromeda? Didn't he stay married to her? And when did he betray Hera?
@@plipplopproductions4347 I mean there's like fifty billions versions of each greek myth and there's really no "canon" greek myth. Even a lot of Percy Jackson can be incorrect depending on which version you grew up with heh
Actually They sinned from the start. Hercules was the son of a mortal woman Zeus stuck his thunderbolt in by tricking her, and Hera constantly tried to kill Hercules and drugged him to go insane and kill his wife and kids. Other than the names of characters this movie has nothing in common with the Greek Myths.
And only like half the names were right anyways... Hercules and Bacchus are Roman
Edit: typo spelling *Hercules in the Greek form
Yeah hell in the myths HERA was the one who sent two giants snakes to kill baby Hercules
The Greeks did after all imagine their god as the extremes of humanity.
@@alexorr5772 You do know that Heracles was named after Hera right Hercules was the Roman name.
Ikr?! It's kinda irritating that disney didn't actually follow the actual myths instead of this nonsense, that's only partly true
14:03 had me laughing. the humor and sarcasm of cinemasins never bores me🤣
It still bothers me that Hades was the villain, even though in Greek mythology he was the most chill and loyal-to-companion god on the Olympus.
lol! Yeah! Exactly! Hades in Greek Mythology, isn't evil at all! He's Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, and Hestia's brother too! XD
@HAZELedits he stayed in the underworld because when he, Zeus, and Posideon split up the earth he got the underworld and was associated with jewels and death so he was essentially unwelcome, he was actually one of the few who was faithful to his wife, he was strict but was also pretty lenient because of the Orpheus business
okay, we get it. You came and left crumbs.
"why are there only 6 planets though"
The sin is actually this sin, the greeks only knew of 5 planets, so with earth there were 6 planets to them.
Was hoping someone else caught this 🙂 Tbh, good attention to detail on Disney.
They knew of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The image they had of the 6 planets aligning is not from a POV from earth, it's as if they were a model or something.
So the sin is actually it was included as a sin
Yes thank you
*ding*
@iowafarmboy also, "two words: I Am Retired" in Ancient Greek is actually 2 words
Missed that Hades, God of the Underworld, didn't notice that Hercules didn't come to the Underworld after sending Pain and Panic to kill him.
Wow yeah
Ding!
Were they sent to kill or just take away his powers?
@@Dichioo make him mortal then kill him
I mean the movie shows that Hades is basically done with his job, his whole "Take over Olympus" is to partially get away from the Underworld. Wouldn't surprise me if he stopped looking for specific Souls of the Dead when Hercules was supposed to be killed. Though I don't know how much stock he would give to Pain's and Panic's word...
4:08 in the original myth Heracles was beloved in his community for killing dangerous creatures that lurked the edge of the village, he was never ostracized like this
honestly hades is the most chill god and yet they always make him the villain
because death = evil. Always.
Why doesn't Hades get any shine? He's the one that keeps the dead from coming back and the only one who didn't cheat on his wife!
Instead of making Hera the villain, the depict Hades as a horrible god with an icy rage 🔥
Yeah + he actually cared for his wife and Built her a shrine on the banks of the river Stix but noooo it had to be hades because, hE Is DeAtH gOd aNd *dEaTh = bAD*
Hercules is a tragic hero. Disney scraped that so they could have an "ideal" story. So no Cheating, accidental manslaughter, and a functional family. So no normal Hera. So who can be made into a villan that the majority of people won't question? Hades? He's in charge the under world. Thus Satan=hades. Disney had an older cartoon where Hades is literally Satan. The story isn't Hercules. It's a basic zero to hero story using Greek terms.
@@lightningpenguin8937
They’re not even using greek terms even, if Disney actually cared about good writing they would’ve made his name accurate to the timeline. What I’m saying is, “Hercules” is his *Roman name* while his actual name during the time period of the greeks was *”Heracles”*
That's true. They got 10x more things wrong then right.
"Can the gods even get drunk anyway?" Someone needs to learn about Dionysus. indeed!
Did he ever personally get drunk? I know that he invented wine and drank constantly, but from the myths that I remember reading growing up, he always seemed pretty sober. The people around him tended to be drunk.
He's one of my favorite Gods lol
Also, they probably don’t drink our booze to get drunk. They have their own
They drink that immortal Wine thing
PixelStacker you talking about Mr. D ?
l like how this movie makes Hades the bad guy, I mean... Wasn't he one of the better gods? I mean, Zeus stuck his ding-dong in everything that even slightly moved, but Hades just so happened to be the god of the underworld. He also, didn't cheat on his wife every chance he got?
0:08 Honey you mean Hunkules
I don't like how hades is the bad guy, he was the only god that actually did his job and remained to faithful to his wife/niece
Honestly myths seem to make hades like the only actually nice god
You had us in the first half.
@@rhondasimons1050 From a modern perspective definitely. I'm not a scholar on the subject but I do know that in the time these gods were being worshipped nobody liked Hades then either. It wasn't that he was evil, but more that he was apathetic to humanity. There's also the rather big issue that back in the day it was believed VIPs like kings and heroes were the only ones qualified for the best afterlife, and regular people were consigned to wander as mindless ghosts.
Have you read Percy Jackson?
Because Christians refuse to wear anyone else’s shoes. They prefer to use their own shoes as reference when thinking about how others wear their shoe without actually trying it on.
First sin should have been the fact that in Greek mythology he was called “Heracles” not “Hercules” since Hercules was his Roman name. Actually that should’ve been one sin every time they said his name.
@ABC D Minus: Finally, someone who understands! X
Apparently CinemaSins counts the mythos as "the book" where it doesn't matter, otherwise every time the movie mentioned history it would've been a sin. Bellerophon was the monster hunter with Pegasus, Achilles looked up to Heracles, etc
Tom Scharstein II and I’m pretty sure that Heracles wasn’t born a god he was made one.
@@sportsfaniguess154 he was a demigod
Alex Riggs yeah but in this case Hera was his mom even though she hated him and he was a demigod and not a full god.
He should’ve sinned the fact that Hercules was a Roman hero while in Greek mythology his name was Heracles
No the other way around... He was a greek hero knowned as heracles. But when Rome invaded Greece they renamed him as Hercules.
@@galactik6742 that’s exactly what the original commenter said lmao. the movie is greek, and his greek name was heracles. so it was incorrect
Miss input
"Why do you have to wait for the planets to align before you wake the Titans?"
Top 10 questions science still hasn't answered
Missed sin for Meg being able to speak after being CRUSHED BY A COLLUM
A what?
Right. Her ribs and everything would’ve been completely broken!
Maybe the deal must have kept her alive somehow 🤷🏿♀️
THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO
And even be alive and don't dead afer bieng... well SMASHED with a concrete collum lietrally
A collum of that grosor is very heavy enough to crush her bones and being a blood and organs and broken bones stain
Hera isnt even his mom; she hated heracles. Zeus turned himself into a sexy animal and had sexy time with a mortal. Heracles is only half god, not full god. That being said, i still love this movie.
It's not Bestiality if you're the animal
-Zeus
also, shouldn't this movie be Roman? because the Roman pronunciation is 'Hercules' and the Greek is 'Heracles'
@@legocharliet2798 but the film is technically American so I suppose the Roman way fits
Not to mention that he was named Heracles in an attempt to not get on Hera’s bad side, because doesn’t Heracles translate to “Glory of Hera” or something along those lines of pandering to Hera?
Not to mention Hercules is the grandson of Perseus, who is also a son of Zues.
That wasn’t a nymph, that was Aphrodite
"apparently they need a bucket and a mop every time Herc walks by" lmfaooo
I actually enjoyed this movie. It has that cliche Disney “Never give up” and “love is cool” but with one of my favorite ancient civilizations. I also love that Meg doesn’t fall for Herc automatically and then realizes her feelings for him later, then feels bad for betraying him and makes up for it. Herc on the other hand falls for Meg, but doesn’t think about her constantly. They are a well written couple compared to other Disney tales like finding dead people in the forest or castle or evil stepmom. And the songs are so powerful, please take a sin off for the songs. It’s just a great movie and refresher from the “Disney Experience”.
The pacing is way too fast tho.
@@TH3F4LC0Nx not for me but I respect your opinion
oy. is Disney gonna try their hand at a Hercules remake now? or do they feel there's been enough remakes already? (given the Dwayne Johnson Hercules, Kellan Lutz's Hercules; i know these aren't Disney movies, but still...)
Yff
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“Herc’s parents did nothing when he when missing”
Me: summary of Zeus
In the movie the muses says that they send out all the gods to look for him, but only found him after he had become mortal. Later Zeus explains that only gods can live on Olympus. It is shown and told that Zeus and Hera were very upset about all this. The logical conclusion to all that, is that there's a universal law even above that of the gods, that means they couldn't do anything to let Herc back in without having Herc become a true hero.
Zeus did do whatever they could for him when he went missing, at least within the absolute rules established by the movie. You could argue that Zeus would have punished Hades for this, but his friendly interaction with Hades in the beginning and his surprise when he saw Hades overthrow Olympus shows that Zeus was not aware Hades was the culprit, and with Herc, a baby, being the only witness, there wasn't really that many ways for him to find out.
That's just gods in general
I guess ANOTHER SIN in the movie would be the fact that Hercules wouldn't be able to return to Mount Olympus, even though he wasn't technically stripped of his god-hood in the first place, since it was necessary for him to drink the ENTIRE POTION. Based on this logic he should've been able to return no problem.
*Disney in a nutshell*
im adding 1 sin for each time zuse says fucking "thunder bolt" instead of "lightning bolt" as thunder is the sound not the bolt of electricity
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
Another sin: Historical and mythological inaccuracy. Hera tried killing the overpowered demi god, and Hercules is actually Roman, not Greek. The name used in Greek mythos was Heracles
I'm still trying to figure out why Hades is making deals for souls.
Herakles was burned to death, I want his animated movie.
yeah rome invaded greece and decided heracles is cool hes mine now
@@BobBob-pj3qo He meant the name Hercules is a roman name . The greek one was Heracles
That reminds me of that one paper we got in high school that was supposed to be on Greek mythology, but most, not all, MOST names where of the Roman gods? The ones that weren't Roman was in fact Greek, creating a very odd mix...
After class I went up to the teacher and pointed this out... She hadn't even realised this... To be fair, this was in Swedish class, NOT religion, but still... CHECK THE PAPERS YOU HAND OUT
Can we also add a sin for Hercule's toga for being like an anime girl's school skirt and having the same physics
It’s called a toga
@@misshollis7547 yea sorry
@Seiyuan Lin instead of the toga i put skirt
@@loonattaatatatata also, that’s how togas look
If anime skirts have similar physics to Herc's toga, you're watching the wrong anime ;)
Hera was NOT Hercules’ mother too! She tried to kill him by giving him the 12 trials to save his family. Also a sin should have been taken away for “wanna buy a sundial?” 😂
1:14 isnt that just you know. Every american child with LEGOs?
I weezed so hard when he said "they need a bucket and a mop whenever Hercules walks by"
hercules has the WAP
@@Snsdhyoyeon100 omg
@@Snsdhyoyeon100 i- he means the muses need it for themselves... The muse ladies have the wap
@@aurorraashley yeah i noticed that after,,,,i was hoping no one was going to see the comment lmal
-For this WAP
I've been obsessed with Greek mythology for years, but I think we all just have to accept that this film has nothing to do with the actual myths and enjoy it on its own charming terms.
I dont understand why tho
@@Abd_El-Hamid Greek mythology isn't family friendly. Disney animated movies primary audience is children, they can't be faithfull to most myths, especially Hercules/Héracles ones
lol! Yeah! Exactly! I love Greek Mythology so much! ^_^ I've been in love with it since I learned about it in English class in ninth and tenth grade! :D When I first watched Disney's 'Hercules', I got upset when I had to point out things in it that were wrong! "That's not right!" and "That didn't happen!" XD But I still enjoyed watching it though, even though I kept having to yell out rants about it while watching it! :D
Actually, according to classicists, the Disney Hercules movie is just as true as any of the ancient Greek myths. It was decided long ago that any retelling of the myths were equally valid. These myths spanned 1000s of years, contradicted each other frequently and had different versions. So it was decided that they're all the same in terms of "accuracy"
heh like people are smart enough for that
16:21
That’s not a nymph, that’s Aphrodite-
The strobe light story killed me🤣
"can gods even get drunk"
Dionysus would like a word with you
while Bacchus laughs in the distance
Well said
Kiwi_Dude please, fact check before posting stupid stuff like this. It’s the same God, just Roman name...
Well... More drink with them
@@LittleBigTruths no its different lmfao Bacchus is the roman version but thet are different gods worshipped differently. Plus dude no reason to be rude to people on UA-cam comments were are all here to have fun :)
You missed a sin. When Hercules reaches into the River Styx to get Megara's soul, he can reach it by bending over. Then when he goes into the River Styx, he dives off a cliff despite being able to reach into it to begin with.
Gardetrace honestly, I am willing to forgive that sin a hell of a lot more than I am the Fates not knowing that Hercules would become a god again. Cause, you know. They know all.
They missed several sins
Them using Hercules instead of heracles.
Hera bring heracles' mother.
Zeus being a good dad.
A bunch of the heroes (like perceus) that phill had trained being also sons of zeus.
Hades being a bad guy.
The fates being Hade's lackies.
Hera tricking Heracles.
Heracles completing several tasks after Hera forces him to murder his family.
Etc.
@@griffinkelley8785
I already mentioned the "Heracles" sin in an earlier comment.
@@griffinkelley8785 What happens to Meg and their kids after they are married...
@@Gardetrace ah my bad
As a kid, I idolized Hercules and other Olympians like heroes because they're supposedly the "good guys". As an adult, Hades is probably the most hilarious and most reasonable one out of every characters, and James Wood absolutely nails the sarcasm and just being priceless throughout the entire movie.
I know I'm super late, but just in case anyone reads this, at 3:09 I'm pretty sure there's only six planets because these were the only planets known in Greek antiquity. I'm pretty sure Uranus and Neptune were only discovered in the 18th century and 19th century respectively
Just saying, they had 6 planets align because that’s how many planets were known to Ancient Greek astronomers..
Shhh this guy might actually have to think before sinning. That's too much trouble for him.
@@planetruths1373
Yeah
He was using an advanced technique called SARCASM
And thunderbolts that Zeus uses are actually forged by elder cyclops. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yo @Shivam Goundar he’s just making videos for fun you don’t have to hate on him so hard. I don’t see you making videos weekly, and If you dislike the content don’t watch it. If I were to judge you every week for a few years yeah I would see you make some mistakes. This guy probably spent hours producing and editing this video. And yeah he got his research wrong, so, he made content and if you don’t like it DONT WATCH IT
The biggest lie Disney has ever told is that Zeus is a family man
He's about as much of a family man as Hercules. At least some of Zeus' kids survived.
Well, he married his sister, does that count?
Well he did have a "family" 😏
@@scorn787 Hera inflicted Heracles with madness to kill Megara (His wife) and their children. Fucking Hera being jealous.
Greek Gods should have had a God of Family counseling but they would probably get ate by Chronos for telling him how to raise his children (or eat them)
Extra sins because in Greek mythology there were 12 titans, Hercules was trained by Chiron, Hera wasn’t the mother of Hercules and hated him so much she drove him insane so he would kill his family. Also there are nine muses. Disney looked at the mythology and said, “nope!”
The thing that angered me the most is that they took Morpheus and gave him both the domains of Nyx and Hypnos.
It seems like Zeus didn’t learn his Pokémon types electric has no effect against ground types
You are correct, but that titan was clearly a rock type. No such immunities
HA! Good one.😆
ash decides to agree to disagree
titans made of rock ice and magma. fmmmm now where have I seen that before
Noice👌
I love your skate story...thank you sir. Great job 😂😂😂❤
I could learn more about greek mythology from one quick Google search than from this entire movie
When Herc ask Phil to train him, Phil says "Two Words. I am retired"
Which at first seems like "haha phil can't count" but in reality “I am retired” in Greek is “Είμαι συνταξιούχος,” which is two words. Same when he says Holy Hera when herc showed his strength. Hera was a goddess strongly associated eith cows
Disney was on point with the puns in this movie ngl
I was a classics major in college, so all of those jokes and references really make me laugh 😆 like the whole thing of “Somebody call IXII!”
Uhmmm wow... I did not know that!
PhoeniksoftheStorm Phil was gonna say “no way”, which would be two words in English, but bc Zeus zapped him, he said OK which is 1 word. Had nothing to with “I am retired”, it wouldn’t even rhyme with the rest of the lyrics... congrats, that pun totally went over your head.
@@fightingfalcon777 but that's roman numerals, not greek...
"Can the gods even get drunk anyway?" Someone needs to learn about Dionysus.
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‘1 SHOT! (1 shot) 2 SHOT! (1 shot)
- BTS Dionysus
What does Mister Punch have to do with this?
A lot of people need to know about Dionysus because a lot of people only know one out of the many incarnations of Dionysus. Emphasis on incarnations.
@@chimken9881 Lol, I meant the Greek god, who is ironically enough portrayed in the movie. Didn't mean to make this religious or anything.
@@americaroleplayer Its not, just a very interesting learning opportunity.
Some other sins:
In greek mythology, his name was Heracules. Hercules was from Roman myths.
HERACULES was a demigod, Hera wasn't his mother.
Hades wasn't actually a dick, Zeus was
Zeus didn't give Heracules the 12 labors, King Eurystheus did
10:15 Fun fact: A hydras breath (I think it was that) kills you.
Double fun fact: This is not at all how a real hydra works (as far as I know) They start with nine heads who simply grow the one back when it get‘s cut off. Hercules (who should be named Heracles, since this is the Greek story and Hercules is the Roman name) defeated it by cutting off eight heads and then burning the stumps, so they don‘t grow back. He buried the ninth under a rock. Wich might be referenced here.
I could tell more, but I won‘t, cause I do wanna watch that video
Another sin: _how is meg able to speak after being crushed by a column that's probably like 2,000 pounds?_
Maybe the deal kept her alive somehow 🤷🏾♀️
A bit fuckin more than 200 i weigh more than that
200 pounds?? An average adult male weighs 200 pounds! Try adding at *least* another thousand.
@@DukeDarkshadow yeah your right
Yeah that's illegal.
ADD 100 SINS FOR THE MYTHOLOGICAL INACCURACY
The worst part of this movie is that Hercules becomes a "true hero" when he saves someone he cares about for selfish reasons, not when he saves thousands of people he does not know, not for selfish reasons, but because they still deserve to be saved. The rest of the movie has problems, but this issue is why this movie does not work for me.
I think you missed one of the biggest sins of all: How did Hades, the lord of the DEAD, not know Pain and Panic failed to kill Hercules as a baby?
that's a good point, If i were him I'd be waiting to see Hercules'' soul fall into my clutches.
Ya know I've been confused about that for a while as well. Sure the Fates cut the string but Hades runs the damn joint and can even see all of the souls that wind up in his lair. Why did he need to be told that Herc was dead several years later, or even at all for that matter?!
I think about this every time I see the movie
Well Hades is the god of the underworld. He can't account for every single soul that comes in. The guy who takes care of souls is Thanatos, god of the dead. That's the guy who should know if someone's gone or not
Why is hades a bad guy
Biggest sin should be:
This is set in Greek Mythology.
He should be called Heracles.
Hercules was the Roman name for him
It has a better ring to it I’m guessing-
I noticed this the other day and was in complete shock 😂
@@urfavashypoo If does? I kind like the name Heracles. Also irony.
*ding*
hercules is the more known version, same with cupid and eros, cupid is roman too, but most hollywod stories abour heracles and greek mythology use cupid and not eros
Way back when, you could see 5 planets with the naked eye, and if you include Earth then that's the 6 that aligned! I'd remove a sin for that attention to detail!
Sin addition: Disney mispronounces "Hercules" when his name in Greek mythology is Heracles
It makes sense the old man wanted to move to Sparta. Spartans revered the elderly because they recognized that living that long was extremely difficult and rare.
especially when they like to yeet babies off cliffs
@@IronBahamut oof
Surprised the women didn't want in on that. Women were treated as equals in Sparta.
Well being old is only respectable to spartans if you’ve survived a lifetime of war... I’m sure they thought all other Greeks as sissies.
@@BigDaddyGAO they saw them as sissies but mostly the men and children. The elderly and women were treated very well, specially compared to how women were treated in Athens for example.
"Did they even try to find him?"
Uh... yes. Yes, they did. It was said right after Herc got adopted by the mortals. I can even quote the scene.
"It was tragic. Zeus had led all the gods on a frantic search, but by the time they found the baby, it was too late. Young Herc was mortal now." They found him, but could not bring him home because of some divine law that only gods can live on Mt. Olympus.
It’s always same dumb crap. King of the gods and he can’t change the rule? What’s the point of all that power?
@@BigDaddyGAO Because Uranus and Gaia made the rules, not Zeus. Zeus is the third generation of rulers. Before him were the titans, their leader being Chronos
@@nyxession944 in the movie? because in the myths Ouranos and Kronos were both usurped by the following rulers why would they keep the same rules?
As th3Birdman always says, he never corrects sins when the supporting information is presented. And he always takes scene's out of context to pad the sin count
@@matthewlu2316 The same reason the laws of physics/reality don't change with each ruler.
Fun fact: Heracles had a mortal twin brother Iphicles. He was the son of Heracles' birth mother Alcmene and her mortal husband Amphitryon, whom Zeus impersonated in order to sleep with Alcmene. But they would never show that in a Disney movie. 😆
14:27 "... isn't he just strong?"
Yes. And oddly enough, this about the only thing this movie gets correct from the myths, ironically. Zeus makes a VERY big deal about his strength, even going so far as to brag about it in The Iliad: Zeus: (summarised) "COME TEST ME gods and goddesses. Not only would I beat you all in tug-of-war, but I will EASILY pull you all _AND THE ENTIRE EARTH!_ To drive home the point of my superiority, I'll snag the rope on the edge of Olympus and leave it, and you all dangling in mid air, just for fun." Perhaps more importantly, Zeus *NEVER* HAD THE ABILITY TO GENERATE LIGHTNING OUT NOTHING. The lightning bolts were _A GIFT_ to him from the (O.G.) Cyclopes. It's implied they taught Hephaestus how to forge them also; presumably so they can team up and produce them faster. Zeus not only could not produce lightning ex nihilo, he had two minor goddesses always close by to hand him his bolts named Astrape and Bronte. He even kept quite a few in storage as well! Athena aparently had a spare key, but I guess it was usually too much trouble to walk over to the store room and fetch some.
"Can they even get drunk,"
Dionysus: Hey
Bacchus doesn't _get_ drunk, he *IS* drunk.
Lord of wine, party, and grapes comes into the room like "am I a joke to you?"
HAH
if you had to choose: diet pepsi or diet coke?
Bob Jeff eyyy I understood that reference
No one:
Not even Zeus himself:
Percy Jackson fans coming in with facts:
Hell yea
Aw yea!
dam right
SUP DEMIGODS
Or OSP fans
I would LOVE to see a part 2 of this where you guys go over all the mythological inaccuracies
Another sin is that this movie wasted opportunity for Meg to sing "I Need A Hero"
Sin 57: just wanted to point out that historically speaking the Greeks viewed weak elderly people as burdens except the Spartans surprisingly. In Spartan culture men typically died young due to them being a warrior society so anyone who was old was held with much respect since in their country you reaching that age meant you fought countless battles and somehow survived to live a long time. There's this really cool story where the Greeks had a huge event and the arena was packed and nobody was willing to give up their seat for this frail old man, the crowd taunted him for being so old and doubled over in laughter when they saw him heading towards the Spartan section since they had a reputation for being brutes that would start a brawl with anyone for the smallest thing. To everyones surprise ALL the Spartans got up and offered, almost arguing amongst themselves as to who would have the honor to give up their seat. When asked by an Athenian why they did that, one Spartan simply replied: "In a profession such as ours where men die young the long lived should be honored and respected". Which is where some scholars believe we get the saying "fear the old man in a profession where men die young"
Funnily enough, despite being seen as the brutes of the Greek world, the Spartans were actually more equal than Athens, the birthplace of freaking democracy. Women could own land and were the last line of defense if Sparta was invaded (they didn't go out to fight battles with men, but trained with the men to prepare for the event that an invasion wiped out all soldiers), however they couldn't own public office (which you could forgive because of the time and all). I even think it was seen to be dishonourable to even harm your wife/daughter (except in said battle training, where you'd expect some injuries). Slaves could rise/earn their freedom and could become high valued Spartans if they worked hard enough.
Athens, on the other hand, viewed women as second-class citizens, forbidding them from even going to the agora/market (which lots of women ignored). If you were born a slave, you'd die a slave in Athens. Foreigners were also second-class citizens, so only Athenian-born (with two Athenian parents) men were equal.
That’s awesome
Cool
@@TheAwkwardGamer you forgot the reason for their level of autonomy: the women gave birth to warriors which was the biggest source of pride for Sparta. Sure the men could fight and protect but only a woman could add to their forces and was the only person a Spartan man could allow himself to be at ease around and give them affection they hardly ever received.
That's amazing
I surprised he didn't sin "every last drop." There's no way you can get every last drop out of a glass bottle. There's always residue that will collect to create that "last drop."
True - to add on to that, couldn't Hades have solved that problem by making a bit of extra potion just in case? So there'd be enough that Hercules didn't have to drink down to the "last drop" to become mortal.
I was waiting for that too!
God Drops
“Every last drop” was suppose to be the name of the video my college girlfriend and I were gonna make just before *DING*
It's possible the inside of the glass was coated with some Olympian-grade teflon!
10:02 - I appreciate how the first definition was written and the second definition was censored. really shows the versatility of the word.
Yes, Megara was Heracles' first wife, but in the original myth, Hera drives Heracles insane so that he ends up killing Megara and the kids that he had with her. And that's why Heracles is tasked with his twelve labors.
Sin number one: the actual Greek name is Heracles.
Sin number two: Hera despised Heracles
Zeus probably did too
Sin #3: Hera isn't even his mother
Sin #4: if anyone should be the villian of Heracles it's Hera. Hades is like the one chill god
Depends on if you count artistic transformative freedom as sins.
Disney's cartoons are almost always their own stories inspired by other stories. To be honest, I like it that way more. These days everything is remakes and trying to be accurate or imitating something else as much as possible. There's little to no creativity anywhere.
Having a story deviate from it's inspiration source enough to make it it's own story is pretty satisfying to me.
Lyric Is that Nico-Di-Angelo in you profile ???? 😃😃😃😃🤩🤩🤩🤩
@@MrSuperTeenGohan I mean artistic liberties like Meg are one thing, but if you're mixing random Greek and Roman gods with one another and glossing over it by pretending they're all Greek is another. It's not even like they made up gods they just straight up didn't bother to stay consistent with the forms; they might as well have just called Zeus Odin and just not addressed it and pretended he was king of the Greek gods. So I agree it doesn't need to be the actual myth, but there was just no point in using one or two Roman forms without any reason in Ancient Greece.
The fact you ignored “I won’t say I’m in love” is a sin
Maybe he couldn't find anything wrong with it.
@@verkaforever Because there was nothing wrong with it.
Off,A sin off
It's the only Disney song I have in my playlist 😂
What really ticks me off about this movie is that they made Hades the antagonist when in reality he's actually one of the nicest gods.
the mythology guy :HERACLES
_"Hades is supposed to be a pretty f*cking normal god, so what's up with this hellfire and brimstone act? He's not the actual Satan."_
LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MOVIE ABOUT GREEK MYTHOLOGY!
This is the westernized hades, who is strongly associated with "Satan"
It's "highjacked by Jesus"-trope. Turning scary seeming god from other mythology into Satan.
In the actual Greek mythology Hades is actually one of the nicest gods.
@@MagmaMKII he literally named his dog spot
"Teenage rejection like this is why we never heard about Jesus during this period of his life"
*JESUS FLIPS COMMERCE TABLE*
Jesus was rejected all of his life. I think Jeremy forgot that he was literally executed in front of a crowd
I think he's probably right. The teenage rejection, the Son of God thing, the constant taunts from proto-edgelord kids who were probably like, "If your dad exists, then (do tiny miniscule thing for me)" crap.
Not to mention the envy of an A+ (or equivalent) kid...
@@eatatjoes6751 I mean partially, but I mean Jesus wasn't and still isn't seen as a hero by everyone, unlike Hercules in this movie. Even now, people read Greek mythology for fun, to get references, and/or for school, but most nonChristian people won't read the Bible
Kentrc11 oof
"You're a fraud, Spider-Man!"