Jasmine Guy ~ Tupac’s last days with her! not getting roles because she’s too light skinned!
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- Jasmine Guy ~ not getting roles because she’s too light skinned ~ Tupac’s last days with her
Jasmine Guy is an American actress, director, singer and dancer. She is known for her role as Dina in the 1988 film School Daze and as Whitley Gilbert-Wayne on the NBC The Cosby Show spin-off A Different World
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Guys don’t be rude, check your character as you comment! Make your points without dismissing the struggle of another or using harsh language! It’s so simple to be kind you don’t have to be a bully! Don’t dismiss anyone struggle no matter what side of the spectrum you fall. Struggles don’t have to be equal to be valid! It’s like telling a r$p3 victim their pain don’t matter because you got cancer. Why are y’all comparing light vs dark skinned trauma? We aren’t in elementary anymore let’s have some safe and mature dialogue and start to change this divisive narrative! Everyone’s story is important and everyone is worthy to be heard! This video is for Jasmine and HER story, let’s not discredit HER life and dismiss her struggles ❤️
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Thank you, because believe it or not they're playing into colorism by being this way. My sister and I experienced this, we look just alike except she's lighter complexion and I'm darker complexion. We would give anyone the blues for calling one prettier than the other especially if they were basing it off of our complexions. Young and old caught the blues😂😂
@@Mama_Toni that’s how you correct peoples ignorance, don’t base my or my girls beauty solely on their complexion. If the whole world was blind I wonder what new ways would we create to divide us.
@@KarineAlourde exactly, somehow they would find a way unfortunately. They would be shocked and look at my mom. My mom wouldn't say a thing because she knew they asked for it.
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Some of these comments are super toxic. So we can't bring up other people's struggles without saying who has it the worst? Light-skinned people have struggles too. Thank you for the video, Karine. I wish people were less toxic. You said nothing wrong.
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People are strange… surprisingly, there was A LOT of dark skin representation back then.. all of our favorite black tv shows in the 80’S/90’S gave us dark skinned families with maybe one to two light skinned characters.. or it was one where the whole cast was diverse, like ‘a different world’..
Today it is very much the opposite.. Idk why people in the comments seem to not get how a light skinned woman could not get roles in that timeframe 🙄
No one saying light skin people don't have their struggles. Brown to darker toned people have it worst. Im sorry i hate to say it but its the truth and im not saying it to be toxic cause i experienced colorism a lot especially in college. At my college if you're lighter skined you're put on a higher pedestal and you were looked down upon if you're darker tone. I was turned down from a black beauty pagent that a black fraternity hosted because I was too dark. This same fraternity also did the Brown paper bag test to see who could come to their parties and who couldn't (if you don't know what that is look it up its disturbing). There were girls on my campus that made fun of me by saying im too dark and their lighter than me. Like wtf who cares cause at the end of the day if slavery comes back we are all going on the plantation lol.The black community especially black men contributed a lot to colorism. I hate to say it but its the truth lighter skinned people are more at an advantage 🤷🏾♀️ colorism is just as bad as racism. Overall im not trying to gaslight anyone experience but I never seen a lighterskinned girl getting bullied cause of their skintone if anything they are always put on a pedestal while darker skinned girls were always getting teased.
lol this is what has always annoyed me. Whenever a lightskin or mixed race person speaks about something they experienced it always turns into oppression olympics. Karine did great as usual! Glad she covered this
@@brebre23461 this isn't anywhere close to her experience though. She was talking about getting jobs in her field, at a specific time in history, not College or those Cliques within the Black Community on campus.
The whole "light skin vs dark skin" thing is insane. Nobody chooses the skin color they're born with. I've always been a big fan of Jasmine Guy, especially after seeing her doing "Chicago." The woman is very underrated.
i agree when i was younger i wanted to be light skin. but i learn to love who i am and how God made me. to this day i hate i even thought that way
@@lashondawalker3959 Forgive yourself. The past is the past and it no longer matters.
As I light skin woman was teased in junior high school and high school by dark skin and brown teen boys . I feel for jasmine guy
I loved her in the series "Dead Like Me." Excellent actress!
@@lashondawalker3959girl it sucks. You still get picked on. I was picked on for being lightskin.
*I'm Haitian in our family we have shades as light as Jasmine and I can say the solution is to do what my parents did. Treat everyone fairly and acknowledge their experiences, I believe her and I'm glad that her legacy is still here. I've seen the bullying before in middle school if you have long hair, lighter skin, you are the source of envy but, also hate as well.*
True.
My mom is also Haitian, and my dad is almost everything else, but mostly Italian and Irish. My sisters and I have lighter skin and my mom and brother are darker, and because we grew up in a military family, we didn't even know that skin color was a noteworthy thing. I remember our first time in a civilian school, my brother and I had to convince people that we were related, despite the fact that we strongly resemble each other and every way, aside from skin tone. Colorism, just like racism is a man-made construct, and makes absolutely no sense.
Haitian women are not attractive!
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@@moniquehildwein3106 I can't imagine what somebody with a last name like Hildwein looks like, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that you've never been on the cover of any magazines, or walked any catwalks like Haitian Garcelle Beauvais.
So other blacks are racist??
Legit question, I don't understand this
I'm not trying to be offensive so I apologize if it is rude
I love Jasmine Guy. She is multitalented and she reminds me of my mom.
Sometimes it’s hard to believe that light skin women go through this but we do. Then we all debate how severe it is compared to women that have rich melanin with PURE dna. Hate is still hate. Let’s uplift each other and do better because we know better.
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Well said sis💖💖💖
Exactly! Imagine telling a survivor of assault, racism or abuse to "suck it up and get over it" because there are other people who had it worse or still suffering. One side wont ever hear the other...then wonder why they'd rather divest, dissociate, or dont have allies coming to their side. People remember how you treat them. I'm not saying either side is right, but the division is exhausting.
@@Honey-Bee-25 you're so right. People remember how you make them feel long after they've forgotten the words or the actual incident that took place.
Is like saying white women don't go through heartache. We all know that no matter what color a woman is we still were oppressed in the 1920s 1950s. Women didn't have much right but we also know that women who look a certain way suffer so much abuse. We look at pictures of slaves close your eyes what do you think of you don't think of a Jasmine guy and when you think about a woman that was taken care of white babies doing Jim Crow and you think about that and you think about the minstrel shows close your eyes and think about the women they were depicting close your eyes and think about the women would taking care of those babies okay. A black woman thick West African features 4C hair texture stop it nobody is saying that light skin women don't go through s*** but they do not go through the same thing that a woman who looks like Angela Bassett will go through. I hate when women like ya'll just do too much and also the woman the creator of this content she thinks she's light-skinned but she's not she's brown done
Please do a breakdown of School Daze, that movie was so iconic !
I would love if you did a video for scream (1996) or booksmart they are two of my favourite movies!
I love School Daze!
Tupac literally lived like 9 lives by 25 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good grief
😂 he sure did 🙏 wish he lived many more
right? it blows my mind 😂
It really changed him, he was so sweet when he was young
he a real one 😂
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I had to watch my mother struggle through trauma of being the only light skinned person in her family.... She was resented, and she held onto that pain her ENTIRE LIFE...... My mother just passed away, couple of weeks ago.. YOUNG, and that pain deteriorated not only her body, but her HEART.
My immediate family in general has dealt with more racist acts of violence by white folks than the majority of people I come across ....so the fact that people take shit they hear on the internet, and project it into other human beings is crazy....
Sorry for your loss. 😞 May she rest. 🙏🏽
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How are you doing?
I'm so sorry for your loss. May she rest peacefully in God's embrace. ♥️🙏
How are you doing?
I always thought the whole light skin verses dark skin thing was stupid. We are all beautiful Black women. I’m brown skin and I love my skin. If I was dark skin or light skin I would love it as well!!
It is & will continue to be stupid!!!
I feel the same. But because we’re brown skin, we probably don’t see the hate that those on the opposite spectrums see.
Another great breakdown Karine! As a light skin black woman (ironically I had a coworker lovingly call me Whitley bc of my accent) I was picked on a lot in elementary school because I was lightskin. Often it was browner girls but sometimes it was ppl just literally a little more darker than me. Where I lived there wasn't a whole lot of biracial girls (which I'm not) so I think being lightskin was almost foreign to some folks but I was super insecure about it for a long time. Those who picked on me said that I also thought I was better than them and that was totally opposite because they made me feel so bad about being light. My mom also made me wear dresses everyday so that made me look prissy and she was strick so good grades and good attitudes made the teachers like me. (Also didn't help lol)
I don't hold ANY anger towards darkerskin women but I can say that the teasing definitely hurt my soul coming up. I think a lot of us have what I've heard called post traumatic slave syndrome. We really have to stop putting ourselves against each other!
To the show different world- that's my jam! It really was great to see so many black folks educated and in love and having fun!
Ps how can I get in the discord sis??☺️
I’ve been trying get into the discord too ☺️
Agreed. It's called colorism. I'm a light mixed woman too. ( Faith Evans ,I ve been told tI look like) . But I faced the same treatment.
You being called Whitley is not the same as being compared to tar or something for being darkskin.
@@kaylad4486 Why you trying to compare the struggles? She never said anything about her struggles in comparison of dark skin women facing colorism. Some of y’all get upset when colorism against dark skin women is discussed and light skin women try to” all lives matter” the discussion yet some of you do the same thing when they talk about their struggles of being a light skin black women. Stop being weird and let them have their time bcuz you wouldn’t like it if she brought up her struggles while you was talking about your struggles of being a dark skin black woman
@@kaylad4486 I wasn't saying that at all. I mentioned that they called me Whitley seeing as how the video is pertaining to the actress that played her. Had no comparison to anything, only Mentioning the irony.
I love Jasmine Guy, her acting her music, and her style was everything. I loved that song Try Me, and I still call people Johnny come lately when they arrive late😂😂
"Johnny come lately" is a saying. It's not from her song. Just like "Nosy Nelly" for example.
We can talk about the pressures light skin black women go through while still acknowledging dark skin black women struggles on film. It’s already hard enough on us women but when certain stereotypes are pushed down onto us it’s really hard to hold up to them. Yes we know light skin women are favored but we also need to talk the struggles they experience. . . The random cattiness from other Black women. . . Our womanhood and misogyny plays apart on how society views light skin and dark skin people.
So sorry you had to go through that as any light or brown completed women of color. I could NEVER understand the colorism although I strongly believe it comes from how light and dark skinned blacks were separated in slavery and it continued. I always looked at black as beautiful in ALL shades of black and it was nothing to envy or be jealous of but be proud of.... Sad.
I went through with it too as light skin black as a teen girl in the junior high school and high school
A lot of lightskin actors actually spoke about how they were forced to tan or wear darker makeup to get certain roles
And they do vice versa to the dark actors it’s weird because it’s just like they want us to hate our color tbh
True I remember Raven saying that.
@@doreensika837 Yeah, I remember Raven saying that she tanned so much at one point that they had to change the set lighting and she said "Sorry, I was just trying to be pretty." It's wild.
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Her story is her story and i respect that and believe her. So talented, she really hasn’t received her flowers. sucks… a lot of bi-racial and light skinned pple go thru abandonment and acceptance issues. we all know that darker black women go thru colorism bull, AND lighter women do go thru prejudice and projected hate. The media plays on this hard. My mother is darker, I’m lighter and i witnessed her going thru and she witnessed mine. Love Jasmine on a different world!!!
Very well said
Sad... this happens to white women too... white women have such trouble because of the hate for their white skin... smdh...
@@cherylthec white women, what? lol
@@ToriUptown aren't we saying that everyone is picked on instead of acknowledging that LS women have privilege? I might as well add that white men are picked on as well... smh...
Everyone has struggles blah blah. I'm light skinned and that's trash to say light skin people go through the same thing. I've seen darker skinned people go through worse. That actress was also biracial and felt entitled to black women's spaces so that's trash. It's not bw problem. When she benefited from her light skin she didn't care about others
Loved the video and I love your comment! It's so true everyone goes through something and has struggles whether you're light/dark skinned, black or white. People who are light skinned unfortunately have received hate too. I was picked on by dark skinned Blacks for my big nose and lips even though I'm dark skinned. This crap happens! I have grown up and seen and experienced so much hate within the Black community so what Jasmine says she experienced is valid. I think it's crazy, not even a minute into your video and you literally asked everyone to be respectful and not be divisive and yet people still choose to be ugly...Thank you for speaking up about it.
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I remember watching A Different World, it was one of my favorite shows at the time. It doesn’t get the recognition it deserves because it was a really good show. I’m so glad you covered this! Jasmine’s character was unforgettable & so funny. I would love to see her get more work because she is very talented.
I'm white, but I grew up in the 90's in a black community, had lots of black friends and went to a majority black high school. At the time it was popular to be light skinned, especially for girls, they seemed to be the only ones that were considered fine at the time, it made me feel so bad for my darker skinned friends. But on the other had I also saw how a lot of lighter skinned girls were automatically considered uppity. I saw lots of fights because of it too. But the worst treatment and colorism I ever saw was in high school, these mid toned black girls making fun of a very dark African boy because of how dark he was. They were so cruel. It effected me so much I did an essay on it. That was before colorism was really talked about much. I still think of that boy and I hope he's ok.
I am glad you saw and were able to get a perspective on what it's really like.
Colonialism has it's dark blood soaked roots embedded in all of us. When we play the light skin vs dark skin game we uphold the doctrine. Everyone has their struggles.
Jasmine is so underrated I remember when she guest starred on the fresh prince and touched by an angel 😊
@Pearl Morgan same I love the way she roasted will it was funny!
You're underrated she's not underrated you're a dope old troll for saying that
Jasmine Guy was so beautiful and still is. She is just older. Fun fact: Jasmine originally auditioned for Dawnn Lewis' character Jaleesa.
I love DW and I didn't know that
She was perfect as Whitley. Don't see her in that role.
@@anikadiamond007 I couldn't see her as Jaleesa either.
That's cause she was in her 30s playing Whitney
@@SomerKnight 20s and early 30s actually
A see a few comments saying Karine claim she's light skinned. She didn't, if you listened carefully she said she has to tan to get a darker completion. I'm the same say, In summer I'm medium to darker brown and in the winter I'm very pale. African skin can fluctuate through the seasons as well. All Karine was saying was she felt the need to tan when she was younger because she was getting teased for being lighter. Thus she can relate to lighter skin women a little.
Growing up with a light skin tone I got all the jokes, bullying, and prejudice. As a kid all I wanted was a friend, so I would try so hard to play with the other girls especially the other black girls, but they just treated me like a doormat. I’d try to play with the Hispanic girls, they just didn’t understand me and treated me weird bc I’m black. I’d even get it from black female adults saying “oh she’s so light” “oh she’s so white” and that would bother me a lot. Not being taken seriously as a black men and woman alike, not being taken seriously at all man that hurt. Despite my features, my culture, and my upbringing. I understand privilege but I’m gonna keep it a buck with y’all just because there is an air of privilege doesn’t mean that life is any easier, doesn’t mean that there are no extreme hardships. It’s really sad I had to learn how to love myself and being the age I am now (25) i still struggle with my feelings about something as simple as my looks. I am a black woman and I have to constantly defend the objection I find myself having to prove that in so many different environments. I’m not trying to make this a boo hoo poor light skinned girl thing right now, I love my black women and I want to connect more and hear more stories from dark, brown, and light skinned women to better understand and continue to appreciate.
Same! ❤️
I had a situation like she had w/ my best friend that revealed, after years, that she was jealous of me because I'm light and she's dark. I was so sad for her when she told me....... anywhere colonialism has touched this is an issue.
I had a Pakistani HS teacher that mentioned how bad colorism was when she was growing up. Sad.
Also, yall remember the ep of diff world where Kim was upset about the mammy display at a school function? That ep was about colorism etc. That show was so powerful, it touched on so many issues.
Last but not least, karine, i love your channel. Ty for putting all this work in.
Idk I didn’t really like that episode because it was pretty dismissive of Kim’s plight. What I’ve seen with black shows is that they try to address colorism and just lightly scratch the surface. Just like that one Blackish episode
@@sashabell2390 hmm I don't watch blackish but I enjoy the ep of dw. Things weren't as evolved then so the fact they even brought it up was amazing
@@thesilentdiva Yeah, I agree with that. But you would surprised how underwhelming the convo was in Blackish
She played Whitley very well! She was something else! I still watch A Different World! Brings back so many memories! Its so awful when people are so mean to people for their skin tone instead of looking at them for being a human being! I'm brown skin woman! I never looked at anyone different because of their skin tone! All of my friends were all shades! Its very sad though! Sometimes you got to walk in someones shoes! I was picked on too , because in school I loved to paint on canvas and had different interest! The black kids picked on me and that's for white people! It was pathetic! Bunch of bullies! Jazmine is very talented! She could sing, act, and dance!! Thanks darling! Keep up the good work!!😎😎😎😎
I love Jasmine Guy! Here for this 🤗🌿
I’m dark skinned and my youngest sister is light skinned. I have soo many stories of her being bullied in her younger years all the time, it was ridiculous.
Also, my mom raised my sisters and I equally, it’s not until we had went out in the real world where that went left. My mom is brown, middle sister and I are darker, and youngest sister is light skinned.
Your family sounds like mine! My two younger siblings are darker & seeing the world through their eyes has been illuminating. We were raised equally as well. My mom grew up in a colorist household, so she was careful not to create competition or division between skin color in the home. It’s sad that we can’t monitor the world that way, cause the earth is a ghetto mess 😭
Im Afro Latina and like you i have everything in my family. I have lightskin family member, mixed race family members, white family members and black lol growing up i witness a lot of bullying not just towards darker women but also lightskin and mixed race women. My cousin is biracial, looks biracial and has wavy hair. She came back from school back in the day with all her hair cut off. The kids who did it didnt even receive a proper punishment. This happened after several weeks of her complaining about bullying. She was bullied because she identified as latina instead of black american on top of that she called herself mixed race which a lot of people didnt like. Group of girls would go up to her saying she thought she was better than them. She didnt even go to prom because a lot kids were upset about guys asking her out. They would call her white girl and pull at her hair. Parents ended up moving her to a predominantly white school.
@@sadesuarez2954 Its so sad and heart breaking that these stories are still going on today! I've never witnessed anyone having their hair cut off 😐. It sounds like something that happened in the 70s or 80s..but we should know better now. But then again I don't know what year your cousin went to HS..how cousin doing now?
I'm glad she didn't bash dark skins she just told her experience and that's that no one is comparing who had it worst we all know who she just had her experiences and that's that
I saw her once in Manhattan New York. I left work and was on my way to the bank. She was beautiful just older, she was nice!
Light skinned people can absolutely go through struggles with their complexion but let’s not act like it’s anywhere close to the systemic colorism darker skin people like myself are subjected to.
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No one said it was 💀. Besides did you see what happened to eartha kitt for being biracial? Let her have something my god🙄
Stop it!!! Everyone has a story, and we light skinned black women deal with hate from our own race too often. Just like you dont want to be told that your pain dont mean anything, so dont do the same to a sister/ brother with lighter skin. Colorism and prejudice behavior is sickening in our community. Period!
@@AuthorLHollingsworth👏🏼 excellent comment.
Thank you for reaching back and bringing forward history(albeit celebrity) and how it shapes our current status. I was an adult when. Ms Guy burst onto the scene, so I apprecaite your breakdown! I will say, it is still a shame that colorism continues to infect our communities. Yet at the same time, I would have never though I'd live to see people admire and mimic Black women as much as they do now!
I think after Different World her acting was mediocre 😕. Her regular acting and singing voice wasn't exciting to people. In real life Jasmine personality seems rude and snobby .
DANG.Jasmine Guy was so GOREOUS back in the day!!! LOL.I thought she was one of the most beautiful woman on tv back in the mid 80s.Kree Summers was mighty cute too!!! LOL. And speaking of colorism,I have 5 sisters-HIGH YELLOW and pretty.I'm a caramel black man,glad no one made an issue of my dark-skin,especially my sisters.
Ooo this will be good! So happy to see you back and doing well 💖
I love your brothers channel.. it’s my go to when I’m reading ,cooking, and doing choirs around the house.
I am a high yellow black man, I have been bullied, every since I first, started going to school, it was terrible, yes, I was bullied bullied, beat up, jumped on,
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You always do such a great job! Yes love Jasmine!
Always loved a different world and Jasmine I grew up watching that show definitely nostalgia seeing her
I actually think the comment section is a good microcosim as to how colorism affect light skin women. No one should be bold enough to make the statement that light skin women experience colorism equally to darker skinned women (that’s a bold face lie). However, it’s disingenuous to acknowledge the fact that being lighter, people who have been severely scarred/traumatized by colorism often project that hurt & discrimination onto you. You’re told you’re not black, despite being monoracial (having two black parents) & you’re also stereotyped as stuck up as soon as you enter the room (or conversation) so people are constantly trying to knock you off the imaginary “high horse.” Yes, we all know light skin people with superiority complexes, entitlement issues & engorged egos. It’s a symptom of light skin privilege-which is directly related to colorism. But we’re your sisters & our feelings are valid.
That’s literally all the struggle Olympics are…..exhausting. Y’all win!!
Now, can we move on & come together to dismantle colorism at its core? Can we stop putting light skin people on pedestals, only to knock them down with 500 years of fury? Can we acknowledge we light skin women do not experience colorism (not trying to hurt feelings, but dark skin women & girls bear the FULL weight)? Rather, we experience the side effects & symptoms of colorism while simultaneously experiencing systemic racism (this is what’s confusing for lighter skinned people). I say all this with love & frustration, because this division is infuriating!
I agree
@@filmsuga92 thank you! I was nervous typing all that Lolol
@@khlikb8796 I like this comment because someone will try and gas light you about it but I don’t see a lie here
@@sashabell2390 Thank you ! It sucks dark skinned women are always having to defend themselves. I’ve been hurt too, but our anger should be directed as collective towards white supremacy. We’re all arguing over a woman telling her experiences. Who is responsible for her experience? Who created these rules? Smh
Very well explained thank you.
Thanks for this video. My friend Jasmine Guy is still far more than all that you said. I pray that the world will witness even greater successes coming her way in the nearest future. Love and miss you much, Jasmine- till we meet again !!! Writing from Poland.
It's beyond kids being cruel and hateful. Family members are instrumental in passing colorist attitudes from generation to generation. If the kids live with or spend a lot of time with them, they have an opportunity to pass down hate and ignorance. I think one of the first steps in healing our communities is to stop perpetuating colorism in our own homes, which may include having to check some aunties, uncles, and grandparents for talking reckless.
Back in the early 2000s Jasmine came in to my store and purchased charger for her phone. I could tell she was not in a good mood so I didn’t bother to chat with her about her being Jasmine Guy, I just rang up her items and treated her like regular customer. Some times celebrities are not always in the mood to interact with fans and don’t feel like being bothered. Working at this particular store in midtown ATL always had celebrities coming in that you have to respect them and read their mood just like you would treat anyone else.
I love Jasmine Guy. She is an Icon!❤
Ready! Set! I'm here 👑! Great content as always! 💪👊
Thank you for this video. I think it's interesting that you tackle something as controversial as this, judging by the comments.
Jasmine Guy is BEAUTIFUL and a talented Actress!
I met jasmine when I was 19yrs old she was the most down to earth, sweet and kind person amongst tons of celebrities.
I'll never forget that was a staple in my life whenever she'd see me again she'd say "my girl". It was everything I loved her and always will respect all she's done and where she came from.
My fellow Pisces sister ☺️
She truly is. Very intuitive lady also.
aww so sweet🥺
@@kseke25 yes very and that's a 🎁 gift
Yeah, she is very down to earth and friendly. I’ve met her too she was so cool.
I really like the way you look at things, you're very fair with your commentary. I like Jasmine Guy, she was fun to watch on " Different World" ❤️
I can understand it. My mum is of a mixed background but of all her siblings she’s the only racially ambiguous one, and looked just like her mother. She definitely suffered for that.
Great journalism 🖤💕 I loved the topics you disgusted with sharing Jasmine Guy's story, including colorism, self-worth, her personal life and career and experience as a Black woman.
I've always loved Whitley Gilbert! Jasmine Guy is a sweet a woman. People hate to hear that a light skinned woman suffered or was discriminated against because for some reason they think her life perfect because she's light and this is absolutely not true. Everyone goes through it.
I just love her as an actress. She also did a small part in Vampire Diaries and Miss Alourde, I love your videos. They are so relaxing. I listen to them on my way to work or on my way back home. Thank you so much for explaining the lives of these actors & actresses because I really enjoy many of their movies, and it's interesting to learn what their lives were really like.
Thanks so much for this Breakdown Karine❤ Love Jasmine Guy and she's such a great talent!!! The Character Whitley Marion Gilbert was and still is the best!!!!
I suppose everyone has different experiences. I'm lightskin but had little racism if any from dark-skinned people!
I would love to see a breakdown of skool daze, and she's gotta have it. She's gotta have it because Nola darling was liberating, and did things her own way. So I think that would be a great breakdown
Whitely Gilbert is my absolute favorite character of any entertainment source. I appreciate Jasmine Guy for her portrayal of that character. My mom is light and my dad is darker so half of the kids in my family came out light and the others dark. We didn’t think anything of it and our skin tones were not a topic of conversation in our household. We were just taught to love and respect each other. As a darker skinned woman (in college I was told that I’m brown, not dark, but ok), I didn’t hear about the struggles of lighter skinned women until I was an adult from other light skin women and I can believe and empathize with the issues they face. Although I’m darker/brown skinned, I had issues with black folks for making fun of me for speaking properly and several of them didn’t see me as black. It’s actually weird to think about it now, especially as a professional. I’ve been around much more open-minded blacks as an adult so I don’t have this issue anymore.
Wow, where does one begin to unpack this? I grew up in Atlanta and my aunt was Jasmine's dance teacher when I met her. We ended up at the same performing arts high school and THEN, we ran into eachother on the street when we both moved to New York. I went on to make a career in theatre and attended a reading of a play she was directing. I was the first person to arrive at the reading and when I approached her just to say 'hello', she turned away and walked off as if she couldn't afford to be courteous enough to open her mouth. My experiences with Jasmine were always as though she felt entitled to certain treatment. Example: While in high school, we were performing with the Atlanta Symphony and all students were required to sign in on arrival. I was standing in line with all the others with my turn to sign in coming up. Ms. Jasmine simply entered the space, walked right up, broke in line in front of me, signed her name on the roll and walked off without even acknowledging I was there. I was so stunned that she actually did that that snatching her really didn't even occur to me. I just instinctively knew that her lessons in life would be hard. Then, years later, when we ran into eachother in New York, life had taught her a few things but not enough because, while we had a lovely conversation standing on the street corner, she still gave me a bogus phone number when I suggested we exchange them just as two home-girls trying to figure it out and maybe support eachother in the big city. Now, whether her bad attitude came from her being light-skinned or that her dad was the pastor of a huge church here in ATL or that she never liked me, I don't know. I can say, though, as a light-skinned, long-haired female myself brought up in the same culture and at the same time as Jasmine, that I know what she's talking about, but I also know that you need to live your life a certain upstanding way because what goes around comes around. Truthfully, as a young person/teenager, she didn't have the reputation of being very nice and as a performer, well, as a dancer she was always very strong, but her singing and acting chops were always minimal at best. I think that if Jasmine had been smarter about her career, she would've stayed in theatre where she had gained a name as being mentored by the great Bob Fosse. If she had, she would be a HUGE name in that arena as possibly his ONLY black protege but, unfortunately, maybe that sense of entitlement, along with career moves that didn't build on her strengths are the reasons why she's not as far ahead as she thinks she ought to be.
I agree. You should check out just blaze interview on her. He says some of the same points you do and it sounds just as true. Her acting is a high C- if we’re being honest and your looks are only gonna get you so far until it’s time to showcase your talent.
@@unpopops Thank you, I will check it out. She was a cute girl in school, but she had no warmth that came across towards her fellow man. She had a clique of friends in performing arts in the dance department, but they were the girls that worshipped her as the one who got the dance-heavy parts in shows that they didn't have a chance at. There are other things too personal to mention that are not a good look for her at all, and I feel badly that she started out so strong she was blessed, but had noone in her corner to pull her to the side about her character early on.
@@sherrymshephard-massat5929 as a person that had some kind of connection to her, do you believe her downfall Had more yo do with color, character or talent?
@@unpopops I think that certain aspects of her upbringing did not do the formation of her character any good. Being a light-skinned girl with long hair in Atlanta in the 60's and 70's was no joke. We got all kinds of static for something we had no control over, and that our parents couldn't help us with. They couldn't go to school with us every day, couldn't make sure playmates didn't turn on us and beat us up. So you put up walls to protect yourself; do things to keep your heart from being broken. I think she let it go too far. I think that if she really spoke on her 'experiences', she'd take it all the way back to being hurt and crushed emotionally simply because she was light-skinned with the 'nice' hair but it wouldn't be her downfall completely. There are countless boo-boo head, successful entertainers who have the character of a dead rat. Thing is, you've got to have the talent to go with it. And if you don't have the talent exactly, you've got to have the personality to put over the amount of talent that you DO have. Fake it 'til you make it. You've got to be able to pull some warmth and humanity up from somewhere and Jasmine never came off to me as a warm person. Not ever. You have to be smart and strategic about your career starting with being honest about what you have to offer. Did she do that? Doesn't look like it.
@@sherrymshephard-massat5929 interesting take. Something to ponder. I always wondered why they consider her light skin instead of mixed in which she is. As a light skin man, I was always too light for the dark and too real for the white so I just made my own lane and said I don’t care what you see or think about me cause I’m gonna love me regardless. Never was cocky or felt above anyone but for people to hate you over something you have no control over is just trash mentality black or white dark or light who cares in the grand scheme of things. Have you ever encountered people who thought that you acted like this ‘light skin stereotype’ often?
I liked her role in Harlem Nights. The fashion that she wore in that was super feminine and elegant. Her was even super feminine and elegant😂
I'm new here. But I love this break down. Also what makes it impactful, is that you shared your truth and how you had to deal with colorism.
I always liked Jasmine Guy. Thank you for the video
I absolutely adore you Karine! You are all about diversity & love! When I think of you, I think of Unity & respectful! This is a very interesting opportunity to bring to light the other side industry. She was smart, sophisticated & yes beautiful.
I remember this show. Which was a good show!
I'm glad you show diversity among the community, you bring out true femininity to the core. All one ever want to be in life is excepted amongst your peers.
Sometimes we don't know exactly where we belong (I'm speaking in general) & that can be very challenging for someone trying to find themselves in a world that is not so excepting of just anyone.
All we can do is to do the best we can, to the inner work & love ourselves throughout it all. ❤
Keep shining brightly Karine & all those reading this comment. I wish you all immense happiness and peace 💖💐
Thank you Nicole! I love this energy! I love women so much and if only we could see the foolishness that divide us is just that FOOLISHNESS, we would be so much further! Praying for a more United future absent of all this ignorance ❤️
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@@KarineAlourde I absolutely concur with you! I've always been about diversity and unity 🫂 ever since I could remember.
One day I wish the world can see what life could be, through the eyes of like mined others souls such you and I! The world can be so peaceful and serene.
I pray I get to see that day arise 🙏
she is great
Just found this channel and I’m OBSESSED.
Thank you Karine 😘❤️
I'll keep it respectful, but it's not because she's too light skin because there are plenty of black women that are light skin or biracial that are acting.
Respectfully, it's how her skin aged.
Right! She can't play the light skinned car for her failing career. it's probably more about ageism and forever being type cast as "Whitley."
EXACTLY, she just aged they need to quit it
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@@DaeFranklin Yeah, they were reaching🤣
Can you do a breakdown on Sharyl Lee Ralph!?
She could have played Prince's sister. They looked similar in her childhood photos.
Yes. I agree. She is experiencing a double-edge sword. She is not "Black enough". Like the Emmett Till Story. Emmett Till and his mother both had light complexions, but they got two darker-skinned actors to play his story,...why? Mrs. Rosa Parks was a light-skinned Black woman but according to her movie she was of darker complexion,...again why? Colin Kaepernick has a light complexion, but if I see his image on a t-shirt or advertising,..his complexion becomes darker. Why? My question. What is wrong with having a lighter complexion??
Of all her roles, Dead Like Me was my favorite. She was so STRAIGHT UP. She was raw and gritty and completely non-Whitley.
Interesting...I've never see her in a gritty role! It's hard to imagine with her sweet and delicate mannerisms in A Different World. Ive only seen her in family shows. I want to see more gritty roles by her! Other than "D3ad Like Me" do you reccomend anything else?
I loved Jasmine not only could she act but she could dance her butt off andddd she can sing! Triple threat for sure. From what I've seen being pretty, light skin and having a certain texture of hair can go against a woman but it can also be helpful for a woman's career in Hollywood and in life. Add on top of it being biracial in such a racist world has to be challenging. I do not envy these women and I like the fact in spit of this she still embraced her black side. Children learn how to mean from their parents or how they've been treated by society unfortunately.
I met her once right after college when she gave a lecture at Florida International University. She’s a nice and quite intuitive lady.
Thank you because people only discuss colorism experienced from darkskin people ...they don’t realize it works both ways
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No it Doesnt. Because you wouldnt say the same for racism,if a white person said the same. Please don't sit there and act like dark skin and light skin women are equally getting the brunt of colorism. have several seats.
Omg! I agree with you. Both light and dark people in the black community experience colorism. It’s not right either way but a lot of people don’t think light skin people experience it but we do.
Light skinned people don’t experience colorism just like white people don’t experience racism. If a light skinned person is experiencing discrimination then it’s just that.
Wow you guys reaction to her comment is borderline rude and divisive. Why can’t points be made without being rude??? It’s just I think my subscribers have more class than that… 🙁
Hello Karine!!💖💖💖im already in love!😍😍
Lol why do i get this video on my feed when I just started watching A Different World😂😂😂
How black do I have to be to play a black woman?" But. You're. Mixed. :S
I have to say this: There is *NOT* one person (regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, financial status, etc) with white or light skin who could convince me that they've *NEVER* received preferential treatment due to their skin color. The science, data, research, and studies have proven otherwise far too many times.
She may have not gotten the roles she wanted but I'm sure she's had some good come ups compared to her dark skinned counterparts.
Exactly that's why I really don't really watch your videos too much because I feel like the content creator I should say UA-camr she thinks she's a light skinned woman and she's a woman who likes to Cape for light skin women. She tries to equate the colourism that dark-skinned women go through as the same as light skinned woman and it will never be the same and that's saying logic a white woman cannot argue that her life as a woman is the same as the life of a black woman it's not the same.
EXACTLY. Like c’mon this information you’re spreading is false. It’s almost as if she skimmed what colorism means and said, “Aw yeah, why can’t light skin people go through it as well”
This is true! Light skinned women do not experience colorism. We experience prejudice & projected pain (i like to call them symptoms or side effects of colorism, but not colorism directly).
I think we need language to better communicate the nuances of colorism so that we’re not dismissive of the fact that darker skinned women experience colorism, while also validating the fact that the “pedestal” the community puts light-skin women on isn’t quite a pedestal. It’s a fetishized chopping block.
@@khlikb8796 thank u💙💜
@@lacecocoa6272 of course sis 💕 The truth is the truth!
I LOVE Jasmine Guy! A Different World is one of my favorite shows! I also loved her in School Dayz….
Now, I know some ppl aren’t going to like what I’m going to say. But she isn’t a light skinned black woman, she’s biracial. I think that’s the biggest problem.
In our community, we call everyone black but if one of their parents is not, then they are biracial and truly, that’s ok!!! It’s 2022 and when I look back to the 80’s & 90’s I now realize how MANY roles actually aren’t given to black women; they are given to biracial women. Biracial women have been the face of the black woman for years. It’s very interesting. Even Halle Berry, she’s not a black woman she’s biracial but she has been recognized as one when it comes to accolade. Meanwhile, black women don’t get them and are passed over for the roles.
I think it’s time ppl really start being honest, not in a way to gate keep blackness but to just be honest. They’re not black. A light skin woman is a black woman who’s parents are both black. The plight that she is speaking about is that of women who are biracial wanting to be excepted as a black woman. But I honestly think parents of biracial parents should prepare them for the world and reality. It’s ok to tell them they’re biracial and they don’t have to long to be accepted as a black women, but instead to embrace their true identity & diverse culture. I believe that will bring about much peace and confidence. One of my closest childhood friends were biracial and their parents did a great job in my opinion. They always said they were biracial. Their mother was white and father Jamaican black man and she never denied the existence of either one of her parents.
Nevertheless, I hope this resonates💕. I know it won’t for some, but for those who are able to read and innerstand will definitely get it.
I love your comment so much! As a light skin BW with 2 black parents, it’s exhausting to see people constantly conflate being light skin with being biracial. The experiences are not the same. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words!
Thank you for your comment! I didn't realize that Jasmine Guy was a biracial, I always thought she was lightskinned.
I caight that Entanglement Shade 😂😂
OAN: This segment had me sad, angry, happy, etc. Great breakdown and I'm glad she told her story truthfully.
I wanted to be lightskin when I was younger but now I'm content being brownskin I never got teased for my color ,my cousin and I had a talk she is lightskin she went through hell as a child I got teased for my full lips but now I'm alright
I believe her I used to be a model and sometimes I felt like if you weren’t clearly black they kind of shamed you for because they couldn’t properly place you. Now it’s getting a little better
Let's be honest, as a kid it was probably the girls that picked on her, and they probably got mad because the black boys all wanted her. As for acting, it depends on the roles she was going out for. In the 80s light skinned black women were the ish, so she won when she was younger, and women that looked like Viola Davis won when they got older. There were a ton of black actresses that never had a shot at her role in Queen.
Lol its always "mad because all the black boys wanted her". Same tired theory.
i grew up in harlem and i wasnt really picked on by girls. it was boys that picked on me and it was mainly other lightskin boys lol
@@sheddinglightspreadingligh8864 exactly
@@sheddinglightspreadingligh8864 I have seen dark skin women on UA-cam complain about lighter skin women beign "prefrences" for black men.
@@sheddinglightspreadingligh8864 right?? Why does it always have to revolve around the boys ?
Great video as always💖 Would you consider breaking down Carrie Fisher? If you ever do I would recommend reading her memoirs. Her life was incredibly interesting. I think there are a ton of life lessons to draw from her life.
The greatest life lesson from Carrie Fisher is "Don't do drugs".
Jasmine is cool but maybe some of her challenges come from the fact that in those days, biracial people were forced to call themselves black when clearly they were mixed.
On another note, ls woman here. I used to always want darker skin, I didn't have a colorist family and dark skin was always considered very beautiful in my family.
I've probably been judged and picked on due to my skin tone but when I see the hate DS BW get these days, it makes me mad and seems so much worse than back in the days.
Here's our chance to make it.
Stand beside me come what may.
IF you dish it we can take it
Cause I finally heard her say
It's a Different World where ya come from.
Everything is still tied to the colorism dark-skinned black women experience in my opinion. A dark skin little girl is told that she's unattractive and told that she's not as good as her light skin counterpart and in a lot of cases the light skin girl starts to develop a superiority complex due to the upbringing of course. This of course creates the competition and hate potrayed in "School Daze" between light skin girls and dark skin girls. It shouldn't be a surprise that a dark skin woman who was constantly put down in favor of the light skin woman might develop some hostility towards light skin women even when the light skin woman isn't colorist. By no means is it right for people to assume that light skin women are haughty and think they're superior simply because of their skin tone but it doesn't come from nowhere.
You can argue with this UA-camr I'm going to unsubscribe from her she thinks she's light-skinned and she doesn't even look like skin she's brown skin but she wants to pretend like she's a light skinned woman. When a woman who is dark-skinned who has actual light skin people in her family I know the damn difference between the way of light skinned woman is treated in the dark-skinned person. White people even know the difference between a light skinned black person and a dark-skin black person. This is a woman who wants to try to tell dark-skinned black women that were delusional that colorism is all in our heads and that what we go through is the same as light skin women she's problematic.
I think we need to start using the word ‘prejudice’ more. Darker skinned people experience colorism. Lighter skinned people experience prejudice. These are not equal in experience or the way they show up in the world, but both are valid. I am sorry so many of us are dismissive of this fact.
I think you are right that people should not be surprised by the affects of colorism. I think they’re simply dismissive & don’t want to acknowledge the part we play in perpetuating colorism (i.e guilt, denial, shame & feeding colorist rhetoric).
@@khlikb8796 I agree. Just like white people/non-black people that claim black people are racists against them. Like nah. Racism is when you systematically oppress a group based on their race. We definitely can be prejudiced against them, but we’re DEFINITELY not racist towards them. Just like I refuse to believe lightskin people truly experience colorism because colorism is similar to racism (systematically oppressing dark/darker skinned people based off of their skin complexion). Do light skin people experience Prejudice? Yes. Colorism? A big No.
@@TheLovesnowangel I entirely agree. I think terms & phrases often become watered down by emotion, to the point where we’re misspeaking & spreading false narratives, or we’re innocently naive 🤷🏽♀️
growing up quirky & black was hard for me. Colorism shouldn’t even be a debate, I don’t understand the confusion (it’s more of a denial really). I know if it was hard for me, it had to be harder for BW who are unambiguously black & darker skinned (like duh, the paper bag test?). We should all be united in dismantling the white supremest capitalist patriarchy. All this colorism shit is petty, because it’s real & it’s not going away until we’re all on the same page.
@@lacecocoa6272 she has a right to speak her truth and share her experience from her point of view.
Interesting that she used the words “too light skinned”. Which probably means they were still looking for ppl who were “light skinned”. Colorism is awful!
I wish nothing but the best and I grew up watching a different world , love it still.
I’m a 2004 baby and I was watching this show in like elementary school and up to now. It’s my favorite show and I know for a fact Jasmine Guys character is a big part of me. The boujee, proper, multitalented, educated woman was so inspiring to me.
Young in lol
You weren't around when a different world came out 2004 you're 17going on 18
@@roshansprague7758 Yea I’m 17 going on 18 I definitely wasn’t around when it came out. Despite that a lot of the topics and themes talked about all throughout the show are still relevant to this day which I think makes the show timeless.
Love the pic of you...def Toni Braxton's twin!!!
Light or dark, you are all made in the image of God.
I think you are all beautiful!!!
God bless you all!🙏❤️❤️❤️
We will change the game! Speak life sis!!
I had to rewatch for the fashion. The earring game is top tier!
Hope you’re feeling better 🙏🏽
You should watch her interview on the breakfast club. She is hilarious!!!
I do like this channel, and I really like Jasmine Guy, but this is a disingenuous conversion in the comments. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is not a lightskinned Black woman, this is a biracial woman. Why is she feeling entitled to be accepted as a whole Black woman, and expecting to be cast as a Black woman every time? Why is there even a light skin/dark skin back and forth going on in the comments? Light skinned Black and Biracial are different things.
Jasmine is a phenomenal actress and is very humble! 💜
She didn't get roles because she was *too* light? I didn't know this! That's interesting. She's beautiful!
She definitely was my favorite character as well as Khadeem Hardison, they really had on screen chemistry and definitely Freddie!!!⚗
I don’t know why the argument has turned into light skin vs dark skin. Jasmine guy is a BIRACIAL woman. Another thing which I think a lot of light skin women are missing in the comments, colorism does not go both ways, lol. It’s IMPOSSIBLE for you to be light skin and experience colorism. Racism, yes, colorism, no. You can experience prejudice and misdirected anger, but please do not confuse that with the colorism that dark skin women face. And no, I am not dark skin, but even I can understand that.
Look I love Jasmine Guy and I want to open myself up to understanding how other people deal with prejudice but the minute I realized she was biracial I could not help but think the roles that this woman won were based on the fact that she was lighter. The best thing is to capitalize on the type of person you are, she couldn't play dark skinned black roles because we'll she's not that. Everybody deals with challenges in the the acting world and it saddens me that she was so deeply traumitized but her struggles come from being a biracial woman trying to fit into a black box. Still love me some Whitley though, but let's not call this what it is not.
Umm racism is Racism and yes you can experience both without having a white parent what about those who are creole who is a bit of everything or those that come from a half white parent or half white parents or those who come from a very mixed ancestry of biracial grandparent or grandparents in the end depending on your features alone your going to have some what identity issues not just color and I’m not saying all light skin girls equal mix but I’ll say there’s a difference as far as features not just because of light skin and jasmine guy looks more on multiracial side.And I’m not saying that a black person with two black patents knows what a person with a different racial parents knows exactly what it’s like but racial identity can be difficult for anyone that looks different
You are absolutely incorrect! Light skinned people get tormented and experience racism and colorism equally.
Not true. I agree that people with darker skin will experience it on a larger scale, however I had a family, mostly dark-skin women that would tell their children I get things for being light skin. Disclaimer I am brown skinned and I worked really hard and had a good personality. So to make themselves feel better I was made fun of and made to feel less than in my own household. Called high yellow or Indian girl. My hair is a brassy brown so they would compliment my hair color then tell me that it’s short damaged and nappy though. And never did I make fun of my family members with darker skin, I thought they were more beautiful than me.
Oh think people don’t understand that no one asks to be born a certain color and most women aren’t thinking of their skin color until someone points it out. Men’s opinions are their opinions and we can’t base our perceptions of a woman off of that. A lot of people are loud and wrong, but spark those insecurities just because they speak with conviction. Next thing you know we’re back at square one with colorism. Colorism goes both ways. Darker complexions just experience it harsher in my opinion.
Ana Star you have said everything correctly.
my daughter is so fair that everyone thinks she is mixed ( she is not) she wants nothing more than to be brown-skinned like me and I always tell her how beautiful her moonlight skin is. Everyone thinks the grass is greener on the other side you can't begin to discount someone else's experiences through your own limited world view.
Yesss I love her 😩🙌🏾
I love Jasmine Guy! I watched her on tv and loved her character. I’m sorry life was rough on her and she didn’t get the career and happiness she so deserved. I hope God surrounds her with happiness and peace going forward. I hope she has a revival in her career so she can use all her beautiful talents.
I appreciate you doing this. As a very light skinned woman I have experienced colorism as well. Many blessings to everyone. ❤