Nice job Seth! Thinking outside the box for sure. Anyone that doesn't see the artistic creation isn't recognizing art. Not to mention how you made this cane to be robust. 😊
WOW - WHAT A #BEAUTIFUL GIFT FOR DAD - STRAIGHT FROM THE VERY #HEART - EXTENSIONS OF YOUR #PARENTS... - AND - YES - I LOVED THE NO - #MUSIC - #TALKING PARTS - PLEASE DO MORE
Great job it's beautiful especially with the combination of all the wood grains I'm in the process of learning how to make canes myself not so easy with a few basic tools that I have an ax hatchet palm sander and a grinder with a sanding disc
What a neat project! I am trying to learn how to make a cane for my poor spouse. Starting with a solid straight sapling, well dried. Different type of project, but I love what you did here!
i had several uncles who were all into crafty things like this way back in the '50s . One of 'em was making canes like what you have done, something to do with his scrap pieces of wood. i had a cane he'd made much as you have done using everything from scraps of plywood to bits of ebony to pieces of leather. Some of the scraps he'd glued together so he'd have a piece large enough for the round. For a handle he used a bit of deer antler (they were all hunters). The cane had a little bit of a springiness to it, would flex a bit. Your video brought back some memories. i like your solution for the handle. Lovely piece :-)
Wish you had a lathe. Even with a metal chuck and a center of sorts it could be turned nicely. The handle would have been tricky. Nice thought and project for your Dad. A lot of work went into this. Nice concept for small hobby shops that don't have main tools yet. Martin
I have made a few canes, mostly from scrap wood. Now I have your idea for making at least one, possibly more from all of the scrap wood I have in my shop. This is proof that a person should never throw away wood. Maybe I can share this with my wife so that she'll better understand. :-)
enjoyed this video a lot, informative with no narration worked well! Laughed a bit when you had to flip the one piece a couple of times into the bucket! :D
Nice looking cane. I made one that was similar except instead of a metal rod I used a carbon fiber rod. It turn out really well. I am not sure if you and I had the same idea but I want to used a bunch of harwood blocks that were really too small for much and didn't want to put them in the wood stove. I did use a piece of all-thread as a spindle to clamp the discs and sand them to a soft taper. My handle flairs at the end to make it easy to use as a defensive device. It turned out better than I expected. Extremely stiff and very lightweight.
Took this idea and used a piece of all thread. On mine I melted aluminum and had 2 nuts on the all thread put in the aluminum and let the mold cool down then shape my ends I used the for walking staffs in the woods. Everyone worry about them on concrete. Which they're great hardwood floors would be my concern.
Thanks, I think it was 1-1/2" or slightly smaller. It is a little on the big side and I'd use threaded rod or something NOT smooth in the center to hold it together better if I do it again.
What woos were your choices for your cane? I make canes and walk sticks. I made 3 segmented canes using walnut, cedar and poplar. Looked good when complete. I also used all thread for their shafts. I found it too flexible and had some segment crack and come unglued. I want to make more because they look nice. I plan on trying a hardwood dowel for the center. Who cares I’m 72 and just passing time. I’m sure accumulating canes and walking stick. I have used rake handle etc for canes. Then if it is round I carve it to whatever shape I want.
This is the most expensive walking cane I have ever see. And I like to add my personal opinion, after all that work, it did not come out pretty as I though it was going to be. To be honest it looks horrible. I'm sorry, the only complement that I can give you is, you are a hard working man.
Seth Enjoyed video Curious how you terminate/anchor to rod at bottom of cane I plan to use a threaded rod if I can envision a recessed nut to secure some pressure Did you simply epoxy all sections to the steel?
Seth thanks for the excellent video. It inspired me to make one and it came out great. I did a few things a bit different than you but it's all good. Thanks. Wish I could show it to you.
Very nice stick...I use a 3/8s fiberglass rod rather than steel, and I will never again split a handle, after a while every epoxy I have tried will grow weak and fail...It took six years on the first one, but it did fail. So glad it didn't hurt anyone (MINE) and I had one hand on stair rail at church...I now drill it out, put in 2ea 3" deck screws countersunk and plugged...I don't set off security alarms when I go in building now either... That is a nice looking stick and I hope you Dad enjoys it many years...
Watched the video with great interest, great job ! Thanks for sharing. However, you made a liar out of me, I thought I was the only one to ever make a segmented cane. I made my first one about 20 years ago and said I would never do that again. I kept refining my method and have made about 200 since then. My rings are mounted on a 5/8 inch oak dowel.
Have you seen a segmented cane with segments offset? So cane looks as tho it is a wiggly worm Trying to conceive how, maybe offset holes land lots of grinding ?
I'm trying to figure out why you wanted a segmented cane in the first place. It IS beautiful, and would certainly be a conversation piece. Does it have more strength than a solid piece of wood? Help me to understand.
William Burr, I definitely did this for the look. I think it's stronger than a single piece only because of the 3/8" steel rod. I oriented the grain randomly on each piece and it kind of flashes in the light as it is rotated. It's a pretty cool look I think. My dad gets lots of compliments on it when he uses it. Thanks for the comment.
Again Seth a beautiful job every time I look at it , I said in my last comment I would try it. Will been busy yet I able to complete it. Finished it a few weeks ago, my handle have to say was the most difficult but able to sand the cane down enough to make it work, I used a plain straight rod, just scrap wood from pallets and some scrap pieces of hard wood from Rockler I had. Would love for you to see it have know way sending a picture ! It could be I don't know enough about UA-cam you my have a e-mail posted somewhere let me Know !
8:45 - how much Red Bull did you drink to file that fast? :)) What glue did you use? Is it possible to shape a traditional curved crook? Maybe each segment shaped a bit like sliced cheese wedges?
I make canes, but would never make one like that, I would be too uncertain about the strength. I think the breaking strength of my present canes is several hundred pounds, and plan on getting a couple tested by the local university, to find out for sure. All of my handles are original designs also. I'm 5'7", my present canes are at 40", which I found is the best for support going up or down stairs, and may even add a couple of inches after using a 40 incher for awhile.
Thanks for the comment. The bottom line is that this cane works and there is no strength issue with the cane I made. The steel provides the strength and will not snap like wood. The rod is from an old baby crib and I am not sure what the properties/make up of the rod are (nor do I care, it works). Maybe a mild steel rod would flex/deform more than this one. I put all my weight on this steel rod several times before making the cane and it barely flexed. I weigh quite a bit more than my dad and I am confident it will not fail on him. In fact, I had a single piece of oak plywood in the cane (trying for more variation) and it came apart at one of the factory ply joints at some point. We aren't sure when, but one of my brothers noticed it and dad continued to use it until they returned home. I replaced that section with one of the extra pieces of hardwood I cut when I made the cane. Only the handle and the top few inches are epoxied to the rod so the repair was pretty simple and easy. I have 3 more of these rods, so I will probably make 3 more canes some day.The length is a personal choice and my dad chose the length based on the length of his cheap adjustable steel tube type cane which is set at the length he prefers.
The rod I used is something I salvaged from an old baby crib. I would start at a hardware store. Even the big box stores have a small section with some metal (angle iron, rods, tubing, etc.). You could even use a piece of all thread.
I used two pieces of oak that were 3/4" thick and the center piece of poplar was 1/4". I think they all started about 3" tall but they were all scraps. The length I just eyeballed and used my hand to judge the shape and length. I then filed everything down as I shaped it. I think I ended up around 1" wide at the narrowest point. I don't have a lot of details as I made the handle on the fly. Enjoy the build!
Seth just loved your cane, the wood just beautiful, I hope I will not need one yet just had back surgery still with the walker ! After seeing this video I knew I could make it, two days ago I started have all circle made have my rod in place handle glued and cut I hope to start glueing and sanding the handle. I only hope it is as beautiful as yours !!!!!
I hope you have a quick and easy recovery. I'd love to see what yours looks like. I hope you have enjoyed the build process. It's a great feeling to start with some boards and end up with something useful.
Enjoyed this very much. I,m going to have a go myself, but I don't see how the handle splits in half after you have cut the basic shape out on the bandsaw.
Roy Ball - I glued the handle up and then cut it in 2 with the miter saw after cutting the shape on the band saw. That was an after thought and I didn't show it, it was not the safest cut to make. If I did it again, I may try double sided tape to hold it together while using the band saw. I hope this helps. Seth
I really love the way you made this! I want to make one for my grampa's birthday but i wonder if this isn't a little heavy to carry around for him..with the iron inside i mean. Do you know how heavy your finished cane was?
MrMaximusi thanks for the compliment. It definitely is heavier than most canes I've handled. I do not know how much it weighs, my guess is under 2 lbs. I would estimate that 3/4 of the weight is in the steel rod, so that may be a place to start when gauging what a finished cane like this will weigh. My dad's everyday cane is a hollow extendable tube type and it is very light. I hope this helps.
How much does it weigh? Using a cane myself, weight is a major consideration. I used to have a wood cane but it's heft would make my wrist and forearm hurt... I've since switched to a carbon fiber cane (with flames !!) and that has made life *_so_* much better... it's even a semi-local company that makes them, *Carbon Canes* from Venice, FL.
It is definitely on the heavy side and it is not an everyday cane. If I make another one it will be smaller diameter as well, its on the thick side too. Carbon fiber sounds like an ideal material for a cane. Thanks for the question/comment!!
I like it... awesome work, I like the videos that show projects anyone could make without having a shop load of expensive tools as I'm in the basic tool category myself. This is something I will look at doing in the near future.. Thank you :)
Seth Weidner thank you for a fantastic tutorial and I’m excited to attempt a build myself. Is the centre rod also the bent end that fits into the handle or is this piece another piece of rod? What size drill bit did you use and what is the diameter of the hole saw please? I place a a steel centre rod do you think it is possible to insert a wooden dial rod instead for less weight? Will the wooden dial rod offer less strength to the stick?
Good idea. I’m planning to make another one with a solid fiberglass rod used for marking driveways or obstacles for snow plows. I don’t know their exact name.
Nice job Seth! Thinking outside the box for sure. Anyone that doesn't see the artistic creation isn't recognizing art. Not to mention how you made this cane to be robust. 😊
WOW - WHAT A #BEAUTIFUL GIFT FOR DAD - STRAIGHT FROM THE VERY #HEART - EXTENSIONS OF YOUR #PARENTS... - AND - YES - I LOVED THE NO - #MUSIC - #TALKING PARTS - PLEASE DO MORE
How could anyone give this the thumbs down? Way to go, Seth.
A nice thing to do for your dad!
Great job it's beautiful especially with the combination of all the wood grains I'm in the process of learning how to make canes myself not so easy with a few basic tools that I have an ax hatchet palm sander and a grinder with a sanding disc
Wow nice job and it's a great way to make a little extra money on the side so cool.
What a neat project! I am trying to learn how to make a cane for my poor spouse. Starting with a solid straight sapling, well dried. Different type of project, but I love what you did here!
i had several uncles who were all into crafty things like this way back in the '50s . One of 'em was making canes like what you have done, something to do with his scrap pieces of wood. i had a cane he'd made much as you have done using everything from scraps of plywood to bits of ebony to pieces of leather. Some of the scraps he'd glued together so he'd have a piece large enough for the round. For a handle he used a bit of deer antler (they were all hunters). The cane had a little bit of a springiness to it, would flex a bit. Your video brought back some memories. i like your solution for the handle. Lovely piece :-)
Wish you had a lathe. Even with a metal chuck and a center of sorts it could be turned nicely. The handle would have been tricky. Nice thought and project for your Dad. A lot of work went into this. Nice concept for small hobby shops that don't have main tools yet. Martin
Beautiful job. That looks awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Very cool, I would say your Dad loved it because it came from his Son. Thank you for sharing this project Seth.
That is really awesome! Could you do this same idea with a walking stick?
Great idea thank for the video
Great job and smart
Beautiful job
Looks like an easy project for my 5th grader...she's going to love this one.
That is so awesome! You must have made your dad proud!
Was only half-heartedly impressed, until I saw that you made it for your dad.
Then, it was the coolest walking stick ever made!
The cane turned out great, nice work. And I learned how to make one. Thank you.
I have made a few canes, mostly from scrap wood. Now I have your idea for making at least one, possibly more from all of the scrap wood I have in my shop. This is proof that a person should never throw away wood. Maybe I can share this with my wife so that she'll better understand. :-)
what a great idea seth, great job the colours look fab, best wishes dave in wales uk,,,,,,
Thanks!!
Beautiful cane.
Thanks!
I love it, thanks you for showing us what we can do with 2cm square pieces of wood we'd normally toss away, especially we Dutch
Wow, that's great. Thanks for sharing your idea. It's unique and creative.
Thanks! I enjoyed making it.
enjoyed this video a lot, informative with no narration worked well! Laughed a bit when you had to flip the one piece a couple of times into the bucket! :D
Beautiful and strong - all you can ask for from a cane.
Nice looking cane. I made one that was similar except instead of a metal rod I used a carbon fiber rod. It turn out really well. I am not sure if you and I had the same idea but I want to used a bunch of harwood blocks that were really too small for much and didn't want to put them in the wood stove. I did use a piece of all-thread as a spindle to clamp the discs and sand them to a soft taper. My handle flairs at the end to make it easy to use as a defensive device. It turned out better than I expected. Extremely stiff and very lightweight.
I do want to make another one with a fiberglass rod.
Took this idea and used a piece of all thread. On mine I melted aluminum and had 2 nuts on the all thread put in the aluminum and let the mold cool down then shape my ends I used the for walking staffs in the woods. Everyone worry about them on concrete. Which they're great hardwood floors would be my concern.
Nice build! Great idea too!
Thanks!
Seth Weidner
Great tutorial thanks. What size hole saw blade have you used?
Thanks, I think it was 1-1/2" or slightly smaller. It is a little on the big side and I'd use threaded rod or something NOT smooth in the center to hold it together better if I do it again.
What woos were your choices for your cane?
I make canes and walk sticks. I made 3 segmented canes using walnut, cedar and poplar. Looked good when complete. I also used all thread for their shafts. I found it too flexible and had some segment crack and come unglued. I want to make more because they look nice. I plan on trying a hardwood dowel for the center. Who cares I’m 72 and just passing time. I’m sure accumulating canes and walking stick. I have used rake handle etc for canes. Then if it is round I carve it to whatever shape I want.
This is the most expensive walking cane I have ever see. And I like to add my personal opinion, after all that work, it did not come out pretty as I though it was going to be. To be honest it looks horrible. I'm sorry, the only complement that I can give you is, you are a hard working man.
smart work 😍
Beautiful job and for such a fantastic reason!! PS: Liked your Diresta style.
Seth
Enjoyed video
Curious how you terminate/anchor to rod at bottom of cane
I plan to use a threaded rod if I can envision a recessed nut to secure some pressure
Did you simply epoxy all sections to the steel?
That is an awsome cane wish i had one. You did great keep up the good work
Thanks!
Great project!
Thanks!
Seth thanks for the excellent video. It inspired me to make one and it came out great. I did a few things a bit different than you but it's all good. Thanks. Wish I could show it to you.
That's great! I'd like to see it. If you are on instagram you can tag me @sethweidner and I will see it.
Very nice stick...I use a 3/8s fiberglass rod rather than steel, and I will never again split a handle, after a while every epoxy I have tried will grow weak and fail...It took six years on the first one, but it did fail. So glad it didn't hurt anyone (MINE) and I had one hand on stair rail at church...I now drill it out, put in 2ea 3" deck screws countersunk and plugged...I don't set off security alarms when I go in building now either...
That is a nice looking stick and I hope you Dad enjoys it many years...
Thanks for the compliment and the advice. I had the steel so I used it, Fiberglass would definitely be lighter and plenty strong.
Nice Job Seth.... Good Looking Cain!
Bvery good. Enjoyed it.
Wow that is beautiful!
Great job.
Awesome Job! I'll bet your Dad Loved it !
Thanks! He does love it and he uses it for church and special occasions.
Well done . i like the idea , thank you
Thanks!
Beauty!
How about a hooked cane, with a segmented multi colored hook for self defense purposes with the steel rod?
A thing of beauty you have made there.
Tom Keir thank you!
Great video. My Dad would have loved one. I am going to try this one day. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful!
Sorry you have done an excellent job
Watched the video with great interest, great job ! Thanks for sharing. However, you made a liar out of me, I thought I was the only one to ever make a segmented cane. I made my first one about 20 years ago and said I would never do that again. I kept refining my method and have made about 200 since then. My rings are mounted on a 5/8 inch oak dowel.
Victor Peters great minds right? I do them with dowel and then turn them on a lathe after glue up.
Have you seen a segmented cane with segments offset? So cane looks as tho it is a wiggly worm
Trying to conceive how, maybe offset holes land lots of grinding ?
Dowel would simplify termination at both ends
I typically extend dowel up thru handle and install off color wedge to tig
Thanks
Awesome - Congratulation you have an excelent job
Nice stick threaded rod in the centre would have helped with the clamping and better grip inside the handle
Beautiful! 👏🏼
I'm trying to figure out why you wanted a segmented cane in the first place. It IS beautiful, and would certainly be a conversation piece. Does it have more strength than a solid piece of wood? Help me to understand.
William Burr, I definitely did this for the look. I think it's stronger than a single piece only because of the 3/8" steel rod. I oriented the grain randomly on each piece and it kind of flashes in the light as it is rotated. It's a pretty cool look I think. My dad gets lots of compliments on it when he uses it.
Thanks for the comment.
Again Seth a beautiful job every time I look at it , I said in my last comment I would try it. Will been busy yet I able to complete it. Finished it a few weeks ago, my handle have to say was the most difficult but able to sand the cane down enough to make it work, I used a plain straight rod, just scrap wood from pallets and some scrap pieces of hard wood from Rockler I had. Would love for you to see it have know way sending a picture !
It could be I don't know enough about UA-cam you my have a e-mail posted somewhere let me Know !
thumbs up Seth! I am thinking of making a segmented wood handle to use with a diddly bow, if I do I will give you a shoutout for the idea.
Robb's Homemade Life, thanks! That would be great!
Awesome
This is really a nice heirloom piece for u and then grandson or granddaughter.
What types of scrap wood was put into the
cane.? Beautifully done.
Thanks! I used oak, mahogany, poplar, and aspen. If I did this again, I wouldn't use aspen. I think it's too soft, I had some tear-out issues.
8:45 - how much Red Bull did you drink to file that fast? :))
What glue did you use?
Is it possible to shape a traditional curved crook? Maybe each segment shaped a bit like sliced cheese wedges?
Good job. Thank you for the video
I make canes, but would never make one like that, I would be too uncertain about the strength. I think the breaking strength of my present canes is several hundred pounds, and plan on getting a couple tested by the local university, to find out for sure. All of my handles are original designs also. I'm 5'7", my present canes are at 40", which I found is the best for support going up or down stairs, and may even add a couple of inches after using a 40 incher for awhile.
Thanks for the comment. The bottom line is that this cane works and there is no strength issue with the cane I made. The steel provides the strength and will not snap like wood. The rod is from an old baby crib and I am not sure what the properties/make up of the rod are (nor do I care, it works). Maybe a mild steel rod would flex/deform more than this one. I put all my weight on this steel rod several times before making the cane and it barely flexed. I weigh quite a bit more than my dad and I am confident it will not fail on him. In fact, I had a single piece of oak plywood in the cane (trying for more variation) and it came apart at one of the factory ply joints at some point. We aren't sure when, but one of my brothers noticed it and dad continued to use it until they returned home. I replaced that section with one of the extra pieces of hardwood I cut when I made the cane. Only the handle and the top few inches are epoxied to the rod so the repair was pretty simple and easy. I have 3 more of these rods, so I will probably make 3 more canes some day.The length is a personal choice and my dad chose the length based on the length of his cheap adjustable steel tube type cane which is set at the length he prefers.
Super awesome my man!!!! Inspirational!!!!
Thanks!
Seth I want to try this project soon. Where can I find a rod to place in the middle. Thanks.
The rod I used is something I salvaged from an old baby crib. I would start at a hardware store. Even the big box stores have a small section with some metal (angle iron, rods, tubing, etc.). You could even use a piece of all thread.
Thanks sir
Beautiful cane. Video very good. I am going to give it a try. Can you tell me the dimensions of the handle stock?
Thanks
Jim
I used two pieces of oak that were 3/4" thick and the center piece of poplar was 1/4". I think they all started about 3" tall but they were all scraps. The length I just eyeballed and used my hand to judge the shape and length. I then filed everything down as I shaped it. I think I ended up around 1" wide at the narrowest point. I don't have a lot of details as I made the handle on the fly. Enjoy the build!
Thanks Seth. The info is very helpful.
Jim
Seth just loved your cane, the wood just beautiful, I hope I will not need one yet just had back surgery still with the walker ! After seeing this video I knew I could make it, two days ago I started have all circle made have my rod in place handle glued and cut I hope to start glueing and sanding the handle. I only hope it is as beautiful as yours !!!!!
I hope you have a quick and easy recovery. I'd love to see what yours looks like. I hope you have enjoyed the build process. It's a great feeling to start with some boards and end up with something useful.
Enjoyed this very much. I,m going to have a go myself, but I don't see how the handle splits in half after you have cut the basic shape out on the bandsaw.
Roy Ball - I glued the handle up and then cut it in 2 with the miter saw after cutting the shape on the band saw. That was an after thought and I didn't show it, it was not the safest cut to make. If I did it again, I may try double sided tape to hold it together while using the band saw. I hope this helps.
Seth
Seth Weidner Thanks 👍
so coll will have to try this one!!!
Great job dude!
Thanks!
Very nice work there sir..
Greg
Thanks!
That's awesome!!
Thanks!
all right that s grate id nice job
I really love the way you made this! I want to make one for my grampa's birthday but i wonder if this isn't a little heavy to carry around for him..with the iron inside i mean. Do you know how heavy your finished cane was?
MrMaximusi thanks for the compliment. It definitely is heavier than most canes I've handled. I do not know how much it weighs, my guess is under 2 lbs. I would estimate that 3/4 of the weight is in the steel rod, so that may be a place to start when gauging what a finished cane like this will weigh. My dad's everyday cane is a hollow extendable tube type and it is very light. I hope this helps.
Great job. Getting into woodworking myself, what finish did you apply at the end to get the shine?
Outdoor Varathane should do the job.
Love it brother!
Thanks!
Can you talk? I would like to know what and why your doing things
Great gift.
Thanks fit sharing
Like using stacked leather for knife handles. I like it.
It just came to me looking like hell boy
Very Nice~
wow..amazing
How much does it weigh? Using a cane myself, weight is a major consideration. I used to have a wood cane but it's heft would make my wrist and forearm hurt... I've since switched to a carbon fiber cane (with flames !!) and that has made life *_so_* much better... it's even a semi-local company that makes them, *Carbon Canes* from Venice, FL.
It is definitely on the heavy side and it is not an everyday cane. If I make another one it will be smaller diameter as well, its on the thick side too. Carbon fiber sounds like an ideal material for a cane. Thanks for the question/comment!!
I like it... awesome work, I like the videos that show projects anyone could make without having a shop load of expensive tools as I'm in the basic tool category myself. This is something I will look at doing in the near future..
Thank you :)
Thanks. I enjoyed making it. Let me know if you do make one, I'd like to see it.
Wow, that's a great cane. What did you use for the center rod?
jerry arm the center rod is a piece I saved from a baby crib I disassembled. These are the rods that guided the sides as you raised/lowered them.
Seth Weidner thank you for a fantastic tutorial and I’m excited to attempt a build myself. Is the centre rod also the bent end that fits into the handle or is this piece another piece of rod? What size drill bit did you use and what is the diameter of the hole saw please? I place a a steel centre rod do you think it is possible to insert a wooden dial rod instead for less weight? Will the wooden dial rod offer less strength to the stick?
What finishing oil did you utilize?
Mendell Jackson I just sprayed on a clear acrylic spray to build up a protective coating. I did not use an oil.
Cool thanks
did one with oak wood strips, a jig, water and heat.
Nice
Do you do canes for other ppl?
This video is the only cane I have ever made.
check your inbox Seth.
I'd have used a section of old hollow fibreglass fishing rod as the reinforcement
Good idea. I’m planning to make another one with a solid fiberglass rod used for marking driveways or obstacles for snow plows. I don’t know their exact name.
Nice idea, just don't try and go through an Airport check with it..lol
thanks. It has been through without issue. LOL
Heavy weight cane
You should reshape the handle
All thead + 2 washers + 2 nuts = 1 long walking cane glue clamp
Bill
How do you tighten nuts on both ends? Is there a recess in handle and bottom for nut shape?
Please advise your approach
To heavy if you use it for self defense theirs a chance it will fall apart a solid piece of oak or red wood would be better!
Please talk on your video
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Labour intensive ehhh
Yes it was. I think I’m going to make a second one in a similar way with a different shaped handle.
Ужасно и грубо .
Nice