I guess we took those gem deals on Milsurp Flea Market buys for granted. In the late 80's to mid 90's, a perfect SKS could be had for $85, a Mosin Nagant was $65 and my favorite Swiss K31 was $125. That rifle you just unboxed would have been in a trash can with a "FREE" sign on it.
I remember it well. Friend of mine and I got in really well with the manager of a (now defunct) sporting goods chain store due to the number of rifles we got. He not only let us know when he got in a new shipment, he let us look through and cherry-pick what we wanted. Good times.
I've gotten into the habit of restoring rifles that are basically lost causes. Recently brought an Arisaka and Kar98 back to life, both were considered to be basically gone, for parts only guns. Both are up and firing now, lethally accurate.
I have seriously considered an Arisaka in working order at a local shop. They tend to run cheap around here and are far less desirable than Kar98's . My Mom is Japanese , so I think I can justify one for U.P. Deer hunts. hahaha
This was definitely a roller coaster from the start, those Spanish Mausers are a diamond in the rough… or tar Pitt maybe? That enfield was beyond trashed.
Years ago, I bought a Swede M38 stock from Hunter's Lodge. I paid extra for the range chart on the stock. I received a stock with an old crack all the way through the butt stock, and 2/3 of a range chart. The other 1/3 had been scraped off through use. I will never order from them again.
Before trashing the wood, take the metal off, then spray the wood with Easy Off, use a hose and a rag (outside of course). Continue the cycle till the easy off lifts off nothing, then hose the wood down with water, wipe with a clean rag, then hose it again and dry the wood for 40 hours. You may find unit markings of historical value. Do not reattach any metal parts until after the wood has dried. Spain re-barreled their 1916s to 7.62 NATO, not to .308, so if it actually says .308 Winchester, that was someone else, not Spain doing the re-barreling. Run a head space gauge before using. Also check the chamber for pits, roughness, etc. Or just rebarrel them back to 7x57, your choice. Check also C&Rsenal and Forgotten Weapons for their videos on Spanish Mausers.
My dad worked for FN. They made a rather famous rifle, the fall. Stamped 7.62*51 or 7.62 nato. Some countries ordered them in. 308win. All they changed where the stamps. Same with hunting and sports rifles. Depending on country they got shipped to the only difference where the stamps.
Oven cleaner is lye. Lye breaks down organic material AKA wood. 10 or 20 years from now a stock will turn green. I've seen plenty of nice rifles ruined by "cleaning" them.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m actually blown away of how well they packaged your order. The last one I received came in a vacuum cleaner box with saw dust and old news paper as packing material. 😂 Yeah they absolutely burn their clients on shipping charges. Glad your guns turned out decent!
@@ReadinessReviews Also never trust bubble wrap to protect firearms either. At least with Newspaper if you crumple it up and stuff it all around the gun that sucker won't budge a inch.
The roller coaster sight on the Spanish Mauser was original for the original cartridge they switched to the spitzer round then they switched most of them out to a tangent sight . Yours has the original magazine with the release button at the bottom that's a pretty good score man.
I've heard mixed reviews on the Spanish Mausers that have been rechambered in .308... but I think I want one... any opinions? Also... I can't find a price anywhere... but I have an IDF FN Mauser in 7.62 NATO (not a conversion, FN built them for Israel in that caliber). It's in very good plus condition... since I can't find em to price em, I can't imagine they're cheap. Any ideas?
@@ianmedford4855 Might be a little late, but I remember these 1916 Spanish 308 Mausers came into the country less than 6 years ago at 150-199 per rifle IIRC, they're a small ring less desirable Mauser, they shouldn't be more than 350 at the current.
@@ianmedford4855 Ive heard mixed things on those .308 Mauser conversions, not that theyre unsafe or anything but that sometimes a round gets hung up during feeding because dimensions arent perfect match for the OG magazines. Anyway I saw one earlier while scrolling my local Armslist which is why im commenting. Its in about "NRA Great" condition with most of its bluing, good wood great bore but non # matching. The guy is asking $325. I think thats about where the market is on them. Im gonna pass for now but if I was looking for one and came across a listing like I describe id just buy it up dude. In the grand scheme of things $325 dollars is a drop in the bucket and you wont lose money selling it because MilSurp is only going up by the day and will never go back down.
Good to know hunters lodge dallys in sending the merchandise. 90 days is a bit much. Good to know they gouge on shipping too. Thats really bad business.
When I was a kid you could find barrels with 303 British mark 4’s at Gibsons for $45.00 each. But that was a good bit of money then. I’m kinda old. Dang surplus firearms have gone crazy.
I had a Spanish Mauser converted to 7.62 nato, it could not handle the pressure, in fact the lugs set back in the receiver and the bolt jammed. I cut the receiver off and yes I could see the lug imprints. I sold the parts, I think I still have the stock. Just a warning, you don’t want excessive headspace and a head separation.
Anyone can ship long guns USPS. Licensed dealers (not 03 Collectors) can ship handguns USPS Priority Mail if you submit a USPS Form 1508 at the Post Office where you ship them. It's a very simple process and I prefer the service of the Post Office over UPS or FedEx.
@@ReadinessReviews From the beginning of production of that model in 1893, they were nearly all chambered in 7X57. The only exceptions I know of are those made for Belgium, Turkey, and a few South American countries. Those were in 7.65X 53.
The Spanish 1916 sight is the type 1 sight originally used for the 1916s. My barreled action has that same sight. The tangent style sight was the type 2 rear sight.
The 1916 should have an op in front of the serial number. They were converted to 7.62X51 NATO in Spain when the Spanish adopted the CETME rifle in 1957. It might have a nice barrel.
I know the vid is old but I did a lot or research into the M93/95 1916 pattern carbine, some were rechambered in 7.62 CETME not .308 Win or 7.62 NATO, the CETME was a lower pressure version of the NATO round and was meant for older model 1893 and 1895 receivers(and others) due to the poor metallurgy of the Spanish armories of the time, essentially the locking lugs could(and would) break off with an over pressured round like a lot of commercial .308. now with the sight and stock configuration yours "should" be a first pattern, but I have seen some where the parts were reused and converted to the CETME cartridge and used for training/transition until what we know as the CETME 58 or the CETME Model C. as far as the black stripe, that's the first I've seen one, Also a lot of M93/95 receivers that were left over were converted to the FRS-7 using the same 7.62 CETME round. now a rare bird is a German made M93 that survived Spanish service, not a lot of those were made before Oviedo took over production in Spain.
Interesting video. I like your positive outlook on some old guns that many people would write off completely. I also like that you're recognizing and making the most out of the charging market for Milsurp rather than just moaning about a situation that can't be changed. This is my first visit to your channel but I'll be looking at more of your videos in the future! Cheers from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦!
The Spanish Mauser looks like it would be a fun shooter. Obviously an expert gunsmith should look it over before taking it to range. Assuming he or she gives it a thumbs up it looks like a great shootable rifle.
I ran across some of that black tar lookin stuff on a Mauser once. I took a towel and an iron and it would get it gummy enough to scrape off. Mercy it was a long rough task but I still have that 35dollar Mauser and it makes me smile when I look at it and she's a sweet shooter. I could be wrong but I think it's cosmoline exposed to high heat. Best of luck restoring those it's alot of work but it's very rewarding. Oh if they could speak the tales they could tell! Y'all stay safe and God bless.
It looks like they were cleaning out the far reaches of their basement. That shipment would have made me quite disappointed. But, you are an eternal optimist, I guess. If I had numerous old military rifles and needed a bunch of used parts, then maybe I, too, would be excited. Thanks for making this video and sharing this experience with us. I hit the thumb's up and subscribed, so for a brief moment I was your newest "family" member.
What I , from my dad is a Spanish 7mm Calvary carbine , the stock has been slightly sportized , the original sling swivel mounts have been nicely filled in and the stock wood fore end shortened . Wish it had the original stock any way at a gun show I bought the shirt rifle M 1916 listed as 7mm Mauser . When arrived home and disassemble it I found out it was converted to 7.62 x 51 NATO , no big deal , I just bought a M 1916 in the 7mm Mauser . Need only to acquire the long rifle . Thanks for the unboxing review of your rifles
FR8 and cetme bayonet Good packing job, commission stock, check with Sarco. I've cleaned up worse on enfields. May be worth the 189 they ask..... Spanish 1916 not too bad.....You may have sold several 43s for them, lol. Nice. I certainly need a couple Spanish mausers. You didn't strike gold but you did decent.
@@ReadinessReviews You can get the front sights and sight cover cheap enough too for the No4 Mk1. Now if the bolt body on that 88 Mauser is matching then it really isn't trash either and the bore on it looks decent as well with a little cleaning.
I had bought a 1916 from SAMCO years ago, beautiful rifle but it was a jam-o-matic! Tried everything but no luck, finally sent it back and they returned my money. I ended buying (from someplace else) a all-matching (including bayo) K-11 Carbine
That No.4 Mk.1 forend looks like it might be worth cleaning up and saving. A wet cotton towel and a hot iron will loosen the crud then just wipe it off it takes days to get all the crud off and at least 48 hours after that before you can put the metal back on.
I wish the Spanish Mauser was still in the original 7mm....its questionable whether .308 Win is too powerful for that small ring Mauser action. I'd stick to 7.62 Nato and not any high powered loads.
I'd love to know because this was the rifle I really wanted to purchase from Hunters Lodge...I already have nice Enfields. I'm missing a 7mm Mauser in my collection. 7mm mausers are kinda less talked about in the surplus world but it's a really good round and isn't mentioned alot. I guess I would still go for a 7.62 NATO and just shoot Nato or light loads. But really want one that is chambered in the original 7mm Mauser. 7mm Mauser is surprisingly easy to find too because it's a popular hunting round. But dosent mean it's cheap.
@@ReadinessReviews I would just see if it chambers a .308 round. If it dosent, its probably 7x57. If it does, I would double check further to make sure it's .308. 7x57 is a longer round than .308. Or stick the 7x57 casing in there and see if it goes all the way in. Never heard of doing a chamber cast.
The 88 Commission is actually unaltered, no notch cut on the receiver, the Turkish did not get their hands on it, if the barrel goes down on a taper, it’s most likely the original.318 diameter. If reproduction parts are ever made, you may have something there.
The 43 isn't too bad and matching bolt is a +. Still M1943 Spanish mausers are pretty common even in exc condition. The 1916 like said the early style sight is uncommon but overall finding a 1916 7mm cal with a good bore is hard most are washed out with the fine shallow rifling they used.
Im not gonna lie, I remember a local classifieds ad for guns that went through a literal housefire and they were in better shape than the Enfield and 1888. Legitimately I wouldnt even classify these as "poor" or "gunsmith special" these are relic/wallhanger for parts. If I was running that company I wouldnt feel right selling this stuff, or at the least without clear pictures on a modern website. The fact they do the old timey drawn newspaper ads and dont take credit card (so you cant do a chargeback when you get screwed!) is super sus. Im not gonna test my luck with these clowns, RTI is where I draw the line with my gun gambling lol.
@@ReadinessReviews They sent me an Email back on the Spanish Mauser $242 + $19 cleaning rod $25 hand select. I am gonna do it hope it a good one like that one you have.
Wow, that is the worst non battlefieldmetal detector reluctant #4 I have ever seen. The damage is incredible. I have never seen that kind of injury to the receiver on an Enfield before, but the rest of the damage would go along with that I guess. It is hard for me to imagine guns in this condition bringing these prices, having had a C&R license in the early 2000s where I was buying worn but complete shooter ready Model 44 Nagants for as low as $39.95 from SOG and nice arsenal refinished 91/30s for $79.95. Enfield I good condition were $125.00 & a Yugo M-48 Mauser was $100.00. Fear of restrictive gun legislation got guns bought up to the point we are at today. Those Mausers aren't bad though. Most of the spray painted military rifles I have had were training rifles, but I have no idea what yours might have been painted for. Just my two cents thrown out there. Good luck with your projects.
BTW did you determine the manufacturer of the No4 Mk1 yet? because it almost looks like a Early Savage due to the sight and the lack of stampings on the right side wrist piece.
What’s the maker on the No4? I’m thinking it’s one of the Ethiopian imports or an Indian import. If it’s a POF one you might’ve done well despite the rough condition.
That's Royal Ordinance Enfield Fazakerley Liverpool England . What a result . Shame we can't have them in England considering we paid for them in the first place .
How do you interact with them? I have sent a few emails, no response. Called and left messages, no response. Do I write a letter? If so, how about shipping costs? How did you do it?
Honestly I wouldn’t mind paying a little more to get an item I know is going to be in good condition and show up in a timely manner. For all you know your waiting 3-6 months for a rifle that’s covered in decades of muck and rusted/ missing parts to boot.
It's still a dice roll. There is guarantee you would get one as nice as I did. Then again you could get one even better so who knows. It all comes down to if you are willing to gamble that money or not.
ok last comment! hehe I am glad i came across yor channel as so far i have learned a lot and its ben very interesting hearing about the back story and history f each firearm! Cant wait for more? ;>) Oh and i believe those black strips on the one gun mean it was used for a dress gun for the presitential guard or so on? Political shows basically lol
I have used Hunters lodge for over 10 years, 6 orders, slow shipping, but no issues. You did forget to mention the severe storms that had their power out for in excess on a week during your wait. Now I am going to have to grab an Enfield too.
@@robertsonwilliam573 I have seen quite a few more recent bad reviews, No clue what is happening with them. My last order was in July 2023m took about 7 weeks to get.
My gew 88 parts came today from the Hunt Lodge. Very well packed. same time frame as you. Condition similar to yours. At least you got the rear sight slider. I have a Turk mix master, so we will see what parts I can salvage off this.
Thanks for doing this...great vid! Your vids are a treasure to a newbie into surplus like me. That one looks to be fire damage...like it was pulled out of a building that burnt the ground. The black is from tar and fire yuck. Wish I was retired so I could try restoring ...i'd love to do that. Keep up the good work!
I think you might do better with one dug up from a field - you'd at least have all the metal parts! Are all these extra rough No4Mk1s coming from Africa? I'm hoping some provision is made for collectors to import old rifles into the US - there are warehouses full of them all over the world yet to be released.
But untill you try to find all of the parts to fix up those heaps(arduous and frustrating$$), you can go to a gun show and get a nice one for the same price. I enjoy your programs though.🏆
Anyone can ship a rifle or shotgun USPS. Anyone. As a dealer we have a form that the post office uses to ship handguns. Postal employees don't know a whole lot about anything. I had to tell a 20 year postal employee why i was using the form. I also have a box here that the form THEY KEEP is taped to the outside. It is supposed to be against postal regulations to ship ammo through the post office. I have received a lot.
@@ReadinessReviews I ad a postal employee tell me I couldn't ship firearms. I told her to get her boss and the regulations. Her coworker helped her make the right decision and do her job.
Well, you got the package. Now we see what was recieved? You did give fair warning, in previous video. Time will tell? Well, we know now. Damn! I am not impressed. I doubt, you will order from them again. Nice pieces, however, worth cost. Addition to shipping cost, definately, A , hard sell. Peace from Ky. Brother, John.
It was a mixed bag. Some really really bad but some not so much. I think it ended up basically being worth the money invested. I'm just glad they sent the order at all. Thanks for watching my friend. Take it easy!
I got a 7mm Mag Savage 110 and Type 38 Carbine combo deal a couple of years ago. It's easier to negotiate a deal if you are buying a couple of things I've found.
The bayonet looks like one of the versions of a Spanish bayonet made for a CETME battle rifle. I have one and you should see a crest mark from the armory in Toledo, Spain where it was forged on the blade if an original and what I think it is.
I feel lucky to have gotten into the milsurp market when there were some quality pieces to be purchased at reasonable prices. Nothing derogatory meant but what I see in this video, it seems this represents the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel. I feel sorry for those of you who got into the game late.
I guess we took those gem deals on Milsurp Flea Market buys for granted. In the late 80's to mid 90's, a perfect SKS could be had for $85, a Mosin Nagant was $65 and my favorite Swiss K31 was $125. That rifle you just unboxed would have been in a trash can with a "FREE" sign on it.
I remember it well. Friend of mine and I got in really well with the manager of a (now defunct) sporting goods chain store due to the number of rifles we got. He not only let us know when he got in a new shipment, he let us look through and cherry-pick what we wanted. Good times.
@@robertschumacher2707 remember Roses?
@@carolinausedmachinery Dunham's actually. Think it was a regional chain.
All nasty.
Yup the good Ole days are long past.
I've gotten into the habit of restoring rifles that are basically lost causes. Recently brought an Arisaka and Kar98 back to life, both were considered to be basically gone, for parts only guns. Both are up and firing now, lethally accurate.
I have seriously considered an Arisaka in working order at a local shop. They tend to run cheap around here and are far less desirable than Kar98's . My Mom is Japanese , so I think I can justify one for U.P. Deer hunts. hahaha
The Type 97 was made in my Grandmothers home town of Nagoya, if I'm not mistaken.
@@zappastail i say go for it, for sure
Gotta love making trash into treasure.
@@zappastail Anything much under about 500 is going to be relic condition.
This was definitely a roller coaster from the start, those Spanish Mausers are a diamond in the rough… or tar Pitt maybe? That enfield was beyond trashed.
Yeah man. I had extremely low expectations for this whole thing so I just happy with what I got. The Enfield should make for some fun videos.
Years ago, I bought a Swede M38 stock from Hunter's Lodge. I paid extra for the range chart on the stock.
I received a stock with an old crack all the way through the butt stock, and 2/3 of a range chart. The other 1/3 had been scraped off through use.
I will never order from them again.
I've heard many a horror story
Before trashing the wood, take the metal off, then spray the wood with Easy Off, use a hose and a rag (outside of course). Continue the cycle till the easy off lifts off nothing, then hose the wood down with water, wipe with a clean rag, then hose it again and dry the wood for 40 hours. You may find unit markings of historical value. Do not reattach any metal parts until after the wood has dried. Spain re-barreled their 1916s to 7.62 NATO, not to .308, so if it actually says .308 Winchester, that was someone else, not Spain doing the re-barreling. Run a head space gauge before using. Also check the chamber for pits, roughness, etc. Or just rebarrel them back to 7x57, your choice. Check also C&Rsenal and Forgotten Weapons for their videos on Spanish Mausers.
Thanks for the info!
My dad worked for FN. They made a rather famous rifle, the fall. Stamped 7.62*51 or 7.62 nato. Some countries ordered them in. 308win. All they changed where the stamps. Same with hunting and sports rifles. Depending on country they got shipped to the only difference where the stamps.
Oven cleaner is lye. Lye breaks down organic material AKA wood. 10 or 20 years from now a stock will turn green. I've seen plenty of nice rifles ruined by "cleaning" them.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m actually blown away of how well they packaged your order. The last one I received came in a vacuum cleaner box with saw dust and old news paper as packing material. 😂 Yeah they absolutely burn their clients on shipping charges. Glad your guns turned out decent!
The vacuum cleaner box would have made for a more interesting video 😂
@@ReadinessReviews Also never trust bubble wrap to protect firearms either. At least with Newspaper if you crumple it up and stuff it all around the gun that sucker won't budge a inch.
That last Mauser kinda reminds me of my Yugo M48! Thanks for sharing unboxings are always fun and we appreciate the honesty with what you received.
Thanks for Watching! I love making these videos.
The people at hunter's lodge are geniuses instead of hauling their garbage to the dump. They put it in a catalog and sell it to people like you
A sucker born every minute....
The roller coaster sight on the Spanish Mauser was original for the original cartridge they switched to the spitzer round then they switched most of them out to a tangent sight . Yours has the original magazine with the release button at the bottom that's a pretty good score man.
Nice! I knew it was a little different from what I'm used to seeing from a 1916
I've heard mixed reviews on the Spanish Mausers that have been rechambered in .308... but I think I want one... any opinions?
Also... I can't find a price anywhere... but I have an IDF FN Mauser in 7.62 NATO (not a conversion, FN built them for Israel in that caliber). It's in very good plus condition... since I can't find em to price em, I can't imagine they're cheap. Any ideas?
@@ianmedford4855 Might be a little late, but I remember these 1916 Spanish 308 Mausers came into the country less than 6 years ago at 150-199 per rifle IIRC, they're a small ring less desirable Mauser, they shouldn't be more than 350 at the current.
Absolutely not true! The ammo didn't change, the sight did. The langevizier sight is heavy and difficult compared to a tangent sight.
@@ianmedford4855 Ive heard mixed things on those .308 Mauser conversions, not that theyre unsafe or anything but that sometimes a round gets hung up during feeding because dimensions arent perfect match for the OG magazines.
Anyway I saw one earlier while scrolling my local Armslist which is why im commenting. Its in about "NRA Great" condition with most of its bluing, good wood great bore but non # matching. The guy is asking $325. I think thats about where the market is on them. Im gonna pass for now but if I was looking for one and came across a listing like I describe id just buy it up dude. In the grand scheme of things $325 dollars is a drop in the bucket and you wont lose money selling it because MilSurp is only going up by the day and will never go back down.
Good to know hunters lodge dallys in sending the merchandise. 90 days is a bit much. Good to know they gouge on shipping too. Thats really bad business.
Hunters Lodge has a long fine tradition of such things.
I wouldn't doubt if that enfield was in the hands of a dead man at one point
Could have been.
When I was a kid you could find barrels with 303 British mark 4’s at Gibsons for $45.00 each. But that was a good bit of money then. I’m kinda old. Dang surplus firearms have gone crazy.
Thanks for this. I was really looking forward to seeing this update! And thanks for saving us all the trouble :-) Congrats on the 8mm, nice!
Yeah that M43 Mauser turned out to be quite nice. Thanks!
I had a Spanish Mauser converted to 7.62 nato, it could not handle the pressure, in fact the lugs set back in the receiver and the bolt jammed. I cut the receiver off and yes I could see the lug imprints. I sold the parts, I think I still have the stock. Just a warning, you don’t want excessive headspace and a head separation.
I had the 1916 Spanish rifle
So I've checked this one out at this point and even though it is stamped 308 it is in fact still chambered in 7mm Mauser.
That’s good, I actually prefer the 7x57 , they are very accurate. Have fun with your new toys ;-)
Anyone can ship long guns USPS. Licensed dealers (not 03 Collectors) can ship handguns USPS Priority Mail if you submit a USPS Form 1508 at the Post Office where you ship them. It's a very simple process and I prefer the service of the Post Office over UPS or FedEx.
Good to know!
That Mauser with the 1922 date stamp is actually an unmodified rifle, and is most likely still chambered in the 7X57 cartridge.
It is still in 7mm despite the 308 stamp. How did you know.
@@ReadinessReviews From the beginning of production of that model in 1893, they were nearly all chambered in 7X57. The only exceptions I know of are those made for Belgium, Turkey, and a few South American countries. Those were in 7.65X 53.
The Spanish 1916 sight is the type 1 sight originally used for the 1916s. My barreled action has that same sight. The tangent style sight was the type 2 rear sight.
Thanks! I definitely need to brush up on my Spanish Mausers.
The type one sight was also copied onto the original pattern of the 1903 Springfield as well before the 1905 conversion.
The 1916 should have an op in front of the serial number. They were converted to 7.62X51 NATO in Spain when the Spanish adopted the CETME rifle in 1957. It might have a nice barrel.
What we all paid 10 or 15 years ago has absolutely no bearing on what the market value/market price are today. Today is today.Yesterday is gone.
Thanks for doing this video...I often wondered about them but was always too nervous to buy anything. And people thought RTI was bad...
Haha yeah. I least I can dispute a charge with RTI if I have to. HL only takes checks and money orders.
That 7:07 looks like 50 - 100 year old cosmoline that was stored in uncontrolled climatic conditions to me.
the bayonet goes to a spanish cetme/h&k g3 type rifle they will also fit on a spanish fr7& fr8 mausers.
Yup yup!
Got an SKS last year that spent 40 years in cosmoline. Heat gun and brake cleaner will help alot.
Hmm 🤔
This collection of parts would make a cool Bannerman rifle special.
You aren't lying lol
No way I would order from Hunters Lodge Corp.
Don't blame you. I don't think I would have done it if I didn't make videos.
These guys deal in trash and then up charge on the shipping.
No business from me.
Jeff, you are a smart man!
I know the vid is old but I did a lot or research into the M93/95 1916 pattern carbine, some were rechambered in 7.62 CETME not .308 Win or 7.62 NATO, the CETME was a lower pressure version of the NATO round and was meant for older model 1893 and 1895 receivers(and others) due to the poor metallurgy of the Spanish armories of the time, essentially the locking lugs could(and would) break off with an over pressured round like a lot of commercial .308. now with the sight and stock configuration yours "should" be a first pattern, but I have seen some where the parts were reused and converted to the CETME cartridge and used for training/transition until what we know as the CETME 58 or the CETME Model C. as far as the black stripe, that's the first I've seen one, Also a lot of M93/95 receivers that were left over were converted to the FRS-7 using the same 7.62 CETME round. now a rare bird is a German made M93 that survived Spanish service, not a lot of those were made before Oviedo took over production in Spain.
The Spanish Mausers made up for the, other two grease pipes sent.the bayonet used is a CETME bayo.
Interesting video. I like your positive outlook on some old guns that many people would write off completely. I also like that you're recognizing and making the most out of the charging market for Milsurp rather than just moaning about a situation that can't be changed. This is my first visit to your channel but I'll be looking at more of your videos in the future! Cheers from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦!
The Spanish Mauser looks like it would be a fun shooter. Obviously an expert gunsmith should look it over before taking it to range. Assuming he or she gives it a thumbs up it looks like a great shootable rifle.
I ran across some of that black tar lookin stuff on a Mauser once. I took a towel and an iron and it would get it gummy enough to scrape off. Mercy it was a long rough task but I still have that 35dollar Mauser and it makes me smile when I look at it and she's a sweet shooter. I could be wrong but I think it's cosmoline exposed to high heat. Best of luck restoring those it's alot of work but it's very rewarding. Oh if they could speak the tales they could tell! Y'all stay safe and God bless.
Sounds like you got a great rifle for your 35 bucks and hard work. I'm hoping I can make something out of this one as well. Thanks!
@@ReadinessReviews best of luck friend! I know you'll do em proud
It looks like they were cleaning out the far reaches of their basement. That shipment would have made me quite disappointed. But, you are an eternal optimist, I guess. If I had numerous old military rifles and needed a bunch of used parts, then maybe I, too, would be excited. Thanks for making this video and sharing this experience with us. I hit the thumb's up and subscribed, so for a brief moment I was your newest "family" member.
What I , from my dad is a Spanish 7mm Calvary carbine , the stock has been slightly sportized , the original sling swivel mounts have been nicely filled in and the stock wood fore end shortened . Wish it had the original stock any way at a gun show I bought the shirt rifle M 1916 listed as 7mm Mauser . When arrived home and disassemble it I found out it was converted to 7.62 x 51 NATO , no big deal , I just bought a M 1916 in the 7mm Mauser . Need only to acquire the long rifle . Thanks for the unboxing review of your rifles
Thanks for Watching! Sounds like you are putting together a nice Spanish Mauser collection.
The Milsurp guys from decades past lived my dream. A dream that sadly died before I was even born.
FR8 and cetme bayonet
Good packing job, commission stock, check with Sarco.
I've cleaned up worse on enfields. May be worth the 189 they ask..... Spanish 1916 not too bad.....You may have sold several 43s for them, lol. Nice. I certainly need a couple Spanish mausers. You didn't strike gold but you did decent.
It would have been a very profitable transaction if I only ordered the Mausers. The others will make nice projects for the channel though.
@@ReadinessReviews You can get the front sights and sight cover cheap enough too for the No4 Mk1. Now if the bolt body on that 88 Mauser is matching then it really isn't trash either and the bore on it looks decent as well with a little cleaning.
The black bands on the Spanish Mauser means “un-recycled garbage” in Spanish military training manual
A couple of those look like grave finds or something salvaged from burnt out vehicles.
The bayonet you have is a m1964 Spanish cetme c bayonet. The cetme c is pretty much just a g3 with wood furniture
Love my CETME!
Wow, rough stuff , good luck with your restoration attempts! You're bayonet appears to be a Spanish CETME bayonet.
It sure is! Thanks for Watching!!
I had bought a 1916 from SAMCO years ago, beautiful rifle but it was a jam-o-matic! Tried everything but no luck, finally sent it back and they returned my money. I ended buying (from someplace else) a all-matching (including bayo) K-11 Carbine
The K11 is a fantastic rifle!
Will you possibly be ordering more from them in the future? Would love to see another video
It is possible. I'm not quite so scared to order from them now.
I am a FFL and ship firearms USPS quite regularly(kegally) it's both cheaper and quicker abnd tracking is a big +?
Nice! I didn't know that was a thing. I've held a C&R for over 10 years and I've only had things sent to be by FedEx or UPS until now
Spanish CETME bayonet, love it!
Indeed it is!
That No.4 Mk.1 forend looks like it might be worth cleaning up and saving. A wet cotton towel and a hot iron will loosen the crud then just wipe it off it takes days to get all the crud off and at least 48 hours after that before you can put the metal back on.
Yeah I'm going to do my best to clean it up and get it running.
@@ReadinessReviews it's literally just preservation oil dude.. and you think you know shit about guns
Use a steamer
@@johncain1624 I don't have one but it could work.
I love old pieces of junk like that as is or for a restore project but definitely buy one u can find parts for lol thanks for this vid
I wish the Spanish Mauser was still in the original 7mm....its questionable whether .308 Win is too powerful for that small ring Mauser action. I'd stick to 7.62 Nato and not any high powered loads.
I still need to do a chamber cast on it. The spend casing they sent with it was a 7mm case.
I'd love to know because this was the rifle I really wanted to purchase from Hunters Lodge...I already have nice Enfields. I'm missing a 7mm Mauser in my collection. 7mm mausers are kinda less talked about in the surplus world but it's a really good round and isn't mentioned alot. I guess I would still go for a 7.62 NATO and just shoot Nato or light loads. But really want one that is chambered in the original 7mm Mauser. 7mm Mauser is surprisingly easy to find too because it's a popular hunting round. But dosent mean it's cheap.
@@asdaven1 I would say it's basically random chance of which chambering you would receive if you made an order.
@@asdaven1 I'll let it be known when I find out what mine is though.
@@ReadinessReviews I would just see if it chambers a .308 round. If it dosent, its probably 7x57. If it does, I would double check further to make sure it's
.308. 7x57 is a longer round than .308. Or stick the 7x57 casing in there and see if it goes all the way in. Never heard of doing a chamber cast.
Glad I bought all my milsurps like 20 years ago. When good ones were $80 lol.
Those were to good Ole days for sure. I caught the very end of that Era. I turned 18 in 2008
@@ReadinessReviews I got most of mine around 01.
I bought my m1917 Enfield in as -issued condition in 1980 for $125; which is like $500 in today's money
Looks like that enfield spent twenty years next to a wood stove. Baked out the cosmoline though😂
The packing material is worth more than the junk they sent.
The 88 Commission is actually unaltered, no notch cut on the receiver, the Turkish did not get their hands on it, if the barrel goes down on a taper, it’s most likely the original.318 diameter. If reproduction parts are ever made, you may have something there.
Yeah I noticed that. Definitely adds to the coolness factor if nothing else.
When your talking about paying over $100.00 for junk like that I'm just flabbergasted .
Tell me where I can find better for less and I'll be happy to make an order lol
@@ReadinessReviews try the internet, centerfire systems,numeric arms
I remember buying two of those from Roses back in the early 90 for 40 dollars a piece and they look like new after cleaning them up
Roses!? I remember when they sold guns lol. Where are your from?
The 43 isn't too bad and matching bolt is a +. Still M1943 Spanish mausers are pretty common even in exc condition. The 1916 like said the early style sight is uncommon but overall finding a 1916 7mm cal with a good bore is hard most are washed out with the fine shallow rifling they used.
The M1916 is luckily still chambered in 7mm despite being labeled 308.
Im not gonna lie, I remember a local classifieds ad for guns that went through a literal housefire and they were in better shape than the Enfield and 1888. Legitimately I wouldnt even classify these as "poor" or "gunsmith special" these are relic/wallhanger for parts. If I was running that company I wouldnt feel right selling this stuff, or at the least without clear pictures on a modern website. The fact they do the old timey drawn newspaper ads and dont take credit card (so you cant do a chargeback when you get screwed!) is super sus. Im not gonna test my luck with these clowns, RTI is where I draw the line with my gun gambling lol.
Readiness Thanks for that video. I just might order one of the Spanish Mausers. I need a good project for this summer.
Best if luck if you do. Just remember ordering from them is still risky.
@@ReadinessReviews They sent me an Email back on the
Spanish Mauser $242 + $19 cleaning rod $25 hand select. I am gonna do it hope it a good one like that one you have.
That black paint stripe on there is usually indicative of a parade or drill only rifle. Although usually its red. Just a thought.
Interesting. Thanks for the input!
Wow, that is the worst non battlefieldmetal detector reluctant #4 I have ever seen. The damage is incredible. I have never seen that kind of injury to the receiver on an Enfield before, but the rest of the damage would go along with that I guess. It is hard for me to imagine guns in this condition bringing these prices, having had a C&R license in the early 2000s where I was buying worn but complete shooter ready Model 44 Nagants for as low as $39.95 from SOG and nice arsenal refinished 91/30s for $79.95. Enfield I good condition were $125.00 & a Yugo M-48 Mauser was $100.00. Fear of restrictive gun legislation got guns bought up to the point we are at today. Those Mausers aren't bad though. Most of the spray painted military rifles I have had were training rifles, but I have no idea what yours might have been painted for. Just my two cents thrown out there. Good luck with your projects.
Thanks man! I was lucky enough to capitalize on the $80 mosins myself back in the day, just wish I would have bought more lol.
That coating might be called stoving. A jungle antirust coating used by the brits.
Interesting. Never heard of it before.
f for respect taking one for the team
Haha, thanks buddy.
BTW did you determine the manufacturer of the No4 Mk1 yet? because it almost looks like a Early Savage due to the sight and the lack of stampings on the right side wrist piece.
It's a Fazakerley. 1943 I think
@@ReadinessReviews BTW the goop on the No4 Mk1 almost reminds me of the goop you had on those Ishapore DP rifles you bought.
Hunters Lodge still around? Still a scam outfit I see.
Yeah they are around
What’s the maker on the No4? I’m thinking it’s one of the Ethiopian imports or an Indian import. If it’s a POF one you might’ve done well despite the rough condition.
It's a Fazakerley
That's Royal Ordinance Enfield Fazakerley Liverpool England . What a result . Shame we can't have them in England considering we paid for them in the first place .
How do you interact with them? I have sent a few emails, no response. Called and left messages, no response. Do I write a letter? If so, how about shipping costs? How did you do it?
The band on the stock most likely is a identafacation paint for the battalion or company, that was commonback in the day
I was thinking it could be something like that or maybe Bubba did it. I'd like to find out for sure before I try to clean it off.
Cheer up , if you chain them all together you'll have an emergency boat anchor...
Looks like you did pretty good man! That enfield should fix up pretty easy
It's a mess but I do think it can be saved. It was still a bit over priced for the condition.
That Lee Enfield looks like its been in a gun safe that's been in a fire , but You never know what people try to preserve stuff .
Haha yeah it does. I hope I can put some life back into it.
@@ReadinessReviews So do I , and I hope You show us when You've finished .
I'm sure someone has probably already said it, but if not that's a Spanish FR8/ CETME bayonet.
In your opinion, are those Mausers worth the hassle? They seem like an amazing deal but I don’t want to be scammed
Honestly I wouldn’t mind paying a little more to get an item I know is going to be in good condition and show up in a timely manner. For all you know your waiting 3-6 months for a rifle that’s covered in decades of muck and rusted/ missing parts to boot.
It's still a dice roll. There is guarantee you would get one as nice as I did. Then again you could get one even better so who knows. It all comes down to if you are willing to gamble that money or not.
Very understandable stance.
Thanks guys
I will certainly NEVER order from them again. Got a revolver that was unsafe to shoot. Subsequently got repaired, but no warning was given.
what did you order?
ok last comment! hehe I am glad i came across yor channel as so far i have learned a lot and its ben very interesting hearing about the back story and history f each firearm! Cant wait for more? ;>) Oh and i believe those black strips on the one gun mean it was used for a dress gun for the presitential guard or so on? Political shows basically lol
That's super interesting! Haven't heard that one yet. Thanks for watching and the support!
All of that packing material to protect what?
I'm not complaining.
LOL, sometimes I type in Hunters Lodge on UA-cam and watch the show
I have used Hunters lodge for over 10 years, 6 orders, slow shipping, but no issues. You did forget to mention the severe storms that had their power out for in excess on a week during your wait. Now I am going to have to grab an Enfield too.
It's good to hear positive stories mixed in with all the negative. I've quite happe withy experience.
you must have some "in" with them or be them! rifles don't arrive!
@@robertsonwilliam573 I have seen quite a few more recent bad reviews, No clue what is happening with them. My last order was in July 2023m took about 7 weeks to get.
My gew 88 parts came today from the Hunt Lodge. Very well packed. same time frame as you. Condition similar to yours. At least you got the rear sight slider. I have a Turk mix master, so we will see what parts I can salvage off this.
Was there any stock to speak of?
No. Just like yours. wood kinda punky. Bore is pretty worn. not much rifling left. I will use it as a tomato stake. ha ha.
Thanks for doing this...great vid! Your vids are a treasure to a newbie into surplus like me. That one looks to be fire damage...like it was pulled out of a building that burnt the ground. The black is from tar and fire yuck. Wish I was retired so I could try restoring ...i'd love to do that. Keep up the good work!
I would be ashamed to sell that kind of stuff to anybody In that condition.
I think you have got your work cut out for you!! ..Interesting project though..The lee Enfield looks like it was dug up from a field!
It really does look that way. Hope I can get it fixed up.
I think you might do better with one dug up from a field - you'd at least have all the metal parts! Are all these extra rough No4Mk1s coming from Africa? I'm hoping some provision is made for collectors to import old rifles into the US - there are warehouses full of them all over the world yet to be released.
That Enfield forend is worth $200 now, April 2022.
I know they are crazy expensive these days.
But untill you try to find all of the parts to fix up those heaps(arduous and frustrating$$), you can go to a gun show and get a nice one for the same price. I enjoy your programs though.🏆
Wow !! Those first two were pretty bad… the last two are decent, but would I take the gamble? NO. But thanks for the post!
I don't blame you. The whole transaction was a risk.
That Enfield condition breaks my heart.
It looks like that Enfield went through a fire
Anyone can ship a rifle or shotgun USPS. Anyone. As a dealer we have a form that the post office uses to ship handguns. Postal employees don't know a whole lot about anything. I had to tell a 20 year postal employee why i was using the form. I also have a box here that the form THEY KEEP is taped to the outside. It is supposed to be against postal regulations to ship ammo through the post office. I have received a lot.
Interesting. I'm not surprised the postal workers don't know the rules lol.
@@ReadinessReviews I ad a postal employee tell me I couldn't ship firearms. I told her to get her boss and the regulations. Her coworker helped her make the right decision and do her job.
Well, you got the package. Now we see what was recieved? You did give fair warning, in previous video. Time will tell? Well, we know now. Damn! I am not impressed. I doubt, you will order from them again. Nice pieces, however, worth cost. Addition to shipping cost, definately, A , hard sell. Peace from Ky. Brother, John.
It was a mixed bag. Some really really bad but some not so much. I think it ended up basically being worth the money invested. I'm just glad they sent the order at all. Thanks for watching my friend. Take it easy!
@@ReadinessReviews , always do!
My Enfield Jungle Carbine had cosmoline outside and inside the rifle when I bought it In 1985 from a place in Long Island NY
as a glutton for abuse i just order an adrian helmet from hunter's lodge it was very cheap so i do not expect much (or anything!)
Let me know how it turns out.
Lol the test fire in different calibers and missing bolt piece
im wondering because ive seen it pool and dried up on concrete that way...
im wondering if the black stuff gunked on that rifle could be blood?
No lol cosmoline or something similar.
@@hueg.rectem6795 ha I reapply hope so!
I don't think so. My guess is that it is Cosmoline coated with dirt.
That fire rifle aka the enfield is an insult to money you spent .. and 100$ for shipping
Де ви їх повідкопували .
I'm in pa .just bought 7mm mag and 30.06 both together. 300.00 bucks. Deals are out there if u hunt for them
I got a 7mm Mag Savage 110 and Type 38 Carbine combo deal a couple of years ago. It's easier to negotiate a deal if you are buying a couple of things I've found.
That gew 88 action was in better shape and more complete than usual. Get the bolt body and the trigger guard is not the norm in my experience.
Good to know. I won't be ordering another one regardless.
I really like the 1943 Spanish Mauser
I'm very happy with it. Thanks for giving it a look buddy!
That lower handguard wood on that enfield is worth some money if it's in good shape.
It's pretty rough but I'm going to try to use it.
Welcome to the gun nut world you know you love it.
I've been deep in the gun nut world for more than a decade now 😂
That is a langvizier rear sight. It is also used with a low light optical sight. Made to fit rear sight blade
The bayonet looks like one of the versions of a Spanish bayonet made for a CETME battle rifle. I have one and you should see a crest mark from the armory in Toledo, Spain where it was forged on the blade if an original and what I think it is.
You are correct! Good eye.
I feel lucky to have gotten into the milsurp market when there were some quality pieces to be purchased at reasonable prices. Nothing derogatory meant but what I see in this video, it seems this represents the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel. I feel sorry for those of you who got into the game late.
The whole surplus market is at the bottom of the barrel at this point.
That last Mause was sweet. Do they 8⁰hand select! And what was cost of that last maußer.
Thabks