Real doesn’t mean they aren’t contradictory. That’s why you have to be careful of “real people”. It’s just short hand for always talking shit even when they only have half the info.
Yeah, exactly. It's always the people who have to say something about themselves and build themselves up to others who are really not what they say they are. "Because I'm so beautiful!" No, you're ugly on the inside. "I'm a good person!" Clearly you're not. "I'm nice!" Yeah okay, who are you trying to convince? Pretty sure people can see those things if you really are those things, and it really is like that. "America is free!" Lol okay.....
Tya Herndon he did blackface and said the n word.... at 20. Full fledged grown man. Andddddd he still has not taken down the videos meaning he is making money from them still.
I think he was genuine and just making fun videos at one point. I mean, most big content creators were. But, money and fame really ruined him. Everything that used to be truly relatable are now just part of his image, because he knows that'll keep the money coming in.
Jeffree Star is such a liar, he changes his stories left and right. It’s such a bummer because his makeup is dope and he’s super funny but I cannot support a shitty person like that.
@@aliensinthecabinet9111 Your maturity level at 34 years old is not the same as your maturity level at 20. Also James is being more mature than Jeremiah Starfish so honestly its sad.
Jefree is like the worst living stereotype of gay men. Catty, manipulative, vain, egotistical, and doesn't care about stabbing people, his "friends", in the back for his own gains. The man doesn't have "friends" just stepping stones he can use and throw away to make himself look better. He's a mean girl.
sis i know this is a serious post but you said "doesnt care about stabbing people" and my eyes stopped there and got confused for like 50 seconds didnt understanding hwere that stereotype came from before i continued reading
He answerd a question that his interviewer asked 😉 cause you kept compering his accusations towards dahvie with what happened with james, that is why he responded...and he didn't lie, he got the proofs but can't show thfm publicly cause the person involved is protected legaly
mimi nounoushe It's cute that you believe that when there's literally proof of how often he lies. He admitted on Chris Hansen's interview that he'd lied. Saying he saw someone molested and then saying to Chris that he didn't see anything, he just heard stories. Sorry to break it to you, babe, but that either means he lied when he made the tweets or he's lying to us now. Idk why, knowing he's verifiably full of crap by his own admission, you'd still think he was telling the truth about James. Grow up, open your eyes.
i legitimately think that jeffree is the most toxic person in the beauty community. he’s problematic, immature and so full of himself. like honestly, you’re a grown man. get a hold of yourself.
madelyn grace everyone of his ex friends seems to have moved on and changed for the better is some way on another but Jeffree never sees the error in his own ways and moves on to new people and fuck them over.
@@g97g I will never get over the fact that in the background of the bye sister video there was a box of jefferee star lipsticks(or something) in the back (out of focus) but you could still tell because of the colors
@@v.anessa1451 ugh i think I'm extremely biased because I really like Shane and I don't want to believe he would be involved with Jeffree if he knew he was lying. I really want to believe that he actually believed what Jeffree was feeding him because they did become good friends :(
that’s. the. truth. jeffree and shane are motif but narcissistic manipulators who use people for their own personal gain. i don’t think either of them deserve the fan base they have. james is a way nice person, would love to see him surpass them both lol.
This. Also when people say "I don't like James, but..." and then talk about how terrible Jeffree or Tati is for hurting James. Like ok, that's valid, but why do you feel the need to point out that you don't like him? That's hurtful too. It's just adding to the stigma that he's not to be liked.
And most of them dont want to stop supporting Jeffree bc he "has an entertaining life" or bc he has good makeup :/ Which fair enough, he has good makeup but I just dont understand how people would want to give money to someone who is this problematic
reminder that james is 20. TWENTY. sure he's not a teenager but oh my god, give the kid a break! i dont watch him but it hurts my soul to know that he's never been left alone since the whole tati scandal. he's a punching bag at this point and i don't really know what he's done to deserve it other than being successful.
But James was a teenager when Jeffree dragged him. And Jeffree also dragged James’ brother unnecessarily who was a minor at the time. I never understood how 2 people that are going into their 40’s (Jeffree and Tati) came for a teenager like that. I’ve never seen a person that old do some shit like that to TEENAGERS!
Rogerina May exactly but people can easily forget about that because “shane is a changed person, he’s learned from mistakes” like oh okay but james can’t?? plus, james never did anything *nearly* as bad as shane in the first place!!
@@jillianc7485 like exactly, when do you hear James did some crap like that, cause in the early 2000's he was a little kid doing his own thing, you can't judge every little mistake he does, so he's a kid he's going to do some stupid stuff, heck I'm the same age as him, Lord knnnnooowwwws I've done stupid stuff but I was held accountable for them, apologized and grew up from them
Jeffree is the most manipulative person in this industry. He always pushes his sob story down everyones throats and uses his whole “im the realest person” to make everyone forget all the nasty shit he has participated in. I dont like James personally but it just baffles me that this grown ass millionaire cant stop talking about these people. At this point how has he not realized he is the only common denominator. Everyone else in the beauty community is friendly with one another but for some reason Jeffree is always isolated from everyone because nobody wants anything to do with him (yet he somehow still inserts himself in every possible scenario). The way he speaks about James and Tati is so manipulative and truly disgusting
I used to watch JS even after the whole scandal but as time went on, he just got so irritating. He was the same as before and maybe I shouldn't have given him the benefit of the doubt but I did. I really don't like how he is now. He has a lot of self-confidence and I think the money helps him think this way.
Love Jisoo yeah i used to watch those too I really loved his collabs with other ppl but after the drama I saw him in a different light and stopped watching
Ugh I really can’t stand Jeffree anymore, I’m starting to really dislike Shane too. You surround yourself with people like yourself and that’s proof enough to me.
and the fact that shane STILL surrounds himself with extremely racist homophobic transphobic ppl and cuts off the sweetest ppl like drew and garret just shows who he truly is
@Teodora Cicic i never said he was a evil human for hanging out with bad ppl but stop with the naive shit hes 30 something he knows who hes hanging out with and all the shit theyve done. and the transphobic homophobic etc was referring to trisha and racist was referring to both trisha and jeffrey. your just blindley forgiving them and letting them off the hook. if you werent effected by the racist, transphobic, homophobic etc comments you have no right to say that its in their past and for us to forget about it
Teodora Cicic Shane talks in all of his videos about how he’s constantly worried about being in drama. There’s absolutely no way he’s blind to what people are saying right now about his lack of reaction to the shit things his friends have done. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve been watching Shane since his very beginning on UA-cam, I’ve supported him and bought his products and hyped him up for a long ass time. I’m a fan of his. But I’m a frustrated fan because he avoids any negativity in relation to his friendships. And if you’re not denouncing racist, transphobic, and just plain nasty behaviour you might as well be saying you support it. I’m absolutely a believer that people can change and grow. Shane is in a position of privilege with a voice and an influence, if he’s not using that to tell his followers that ‘hey, these are my friends and I still love them but I don’t support and believe in the things they’re saying/doing’ then to me it looks like he just doesn’t care enough about those marginalized groups to say anything. I don’t expect him to drop all of his best friends, because I understand that humans can have complicated relationships but I do expect him (if it’s what he truly believes in) to come out and say to his millions of followers that look up to him that what his friends are doing/saying is wrong
Remember how last year he said he has screenshots upon screenshots and receipts and so on, and now it turned into "someone told me over the phone and I don't even know if it's true"
I really hate Jeffree saying that he can “reveal things off air” and that “he needs to call his lawyers” as if James is this massive serial predator. It’s just really immature and not needed. Sad that Jeffree is showing us just how IMMATURE he is
and he says that as if it doesn’t mean that he’s holding evidence proving someone is a predator and not releasing it to the authorities or anyone who can help the victim because he doesn’t want “drama”. because drama is exactly what he wants. if it’s true he has evidence against james then he’s making james “victim” suffer without justice to uphold his image. but then again he’s friends with shane dawson who according to himself knew about a child predator in hollywood who was actively manipulating children but didn’t say anything because it “wasn’t his business”.
Plus he always talks about keeping it real, you think if he had actual evidence he wouldn’t be shouting it all over the place? He’s the most emotionally driven person ever
Didn't Jeffree compliment James' makeup skills a few weeks ago?? Why would you even mention, let alone praise someone you know is a predator?? His lies make no sense
I wonder if it has anything to do with James’ subscriber count being higher than Jeffree’s. I noticed it not that long ago. I wonder if Jeffree is starting to feel threatened by James and is trying to figure out how to bring James down again to be on top
@@jennalynn3423 it's my guess. James also has his youtube premium show, and has been collabing with a lot of creators, from both youtube and tik tok. It must rub Jeffree the wrong way to see him be so successful still, not even a year after the bye sister scandal
Lenore M exactly! Also James’ new show “instant influencer” is doing really well! I’ve watched the first episode and it’s very good! Jeffree is just feeling threatened and wanted to try and knock James down a tier by trying to start up old drama. Obviously it’s not working
Truly, this isn't normal behaviour. I'm think he was the one blackmailing Nikkie, tried to ruin James and Huda, ruined Manny, Laura and KVDs careers. He is unbelievably narcissistic
@@cunni3tv Jeffree has a pattern trying to take down all big competitors so I wouldn't really be surprised. And he has said himself that he has shit about everyone so he can use it against them. I hope Nikkie will speak and expose him now if it's Jeffree. Jeffree is going way too far and he needs to be stopped
Tati didn’t ever call James a predator - she called him out on inappropriate behaviour, JS is the one who implied that James was a predator and escalated the whole situation
thank you for saying this. tati was wrong in the sense that she let her emotions cloud her judgment. but she never made any serious accusations against james. jeffree’s actions seemed to be 100% malicious. he knew what he was doing. he doesn’t get to backtrack now.
Dude THANK YOU, I thought I was going crazy here. Jeffree is like "oh James thinks we were behind this and we weren't", like uh yeah Tati called him out for flirting with straight guys in front of her friends and making them uncomfortable and Jeffree called him a sexual predator, so he WAS behind the whole ACCUSING HIM OF A LITERAL CRIME PART, which I think we can all agree is the only relevant aspect of this shitshow at this point.
The fact Jefree said 'we can finally unfollow James' that made me so sad, like he's saying no one really liked him, I am sure that's not true. Poor James
Wasn’t Jefree the one who thirst tweeted about a 17 year old boy? Didn’t jefree also say that he was attracted to straight guys too? Wasn’t jefree the one who used to bring some proposal about whom James should hookup with! Wasn’t jefree the same person who said he had prove about James being a pedophile but later had nothing to show, so he acted like he was trying to shut down any drama due to the fact that he had nothing to bring to the table? At this point Jefree is bad news. Sister James is thriving and transparent and we are going to support him with what we can. Jefree can go to hell.
Jeffree kinda ruined Shane for me. I miss soo much the times when Shane used to do conspiracy and just travel with Ryan,Garret and Morgan exploring them, it was so much fun.
Nah Shane already was controversial af He did blackface AND said the n-word. He's been in so many controversies and at this point, you're just cherry picking.
Okay and not to mention Jeffree and Tati were “friends” with James. Wouldn’t you trust your friend? Ask them about what you’ve heard, confront them? You would rather expose them in the internet for views? Just so fucked up Edit: whoa that comment really blew up. Follow me on Instagram @dokkyun_heart
I think Tati was butt hurt over the whole Sugar Bear thing and wanted to get back at him in some way and let her emotions get the best of her, it just shows how problematic and petty some of these people can be😪
I know and not just that but what she and those guys did to accuse James of a violent crime mocked those who really went through it like Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, Gina Dejesus, and Elizabeth Smart. Like I’m so done with these beauty gurus and you tubers and I would rather watch Jaaack Jack and Dope 211 since they aren’t problematic and underrated.
@@wangxu2155 really? from what I've seen they're teenagers/adults, but maybe that's me not paying attention. either way, most people see him as an "uwu smol bean who can do wrong" and i don't think that will change any time soon ://
Yume Kumo i don’t think so? Shane is an OG UA-cam creator, so I think his core fan base would be a mix of adults and teenagers on Twitter lmao. And I don’t think young kids are interested in his documentary series, unless you mean like teenagers.
It’s obvious Tati and Jefree teamed up to attack James. Tatis video was basically an advertisement for her vitamins. Jefree just wants the publicity. It’s funny how Tati and Jefree took everything back once James showed ACTUAL EVIDENCE showing the type of people they are
Sunkissed Showers LPS ????? i was talking about james?? fuck jeffree, that’s what im saying. like jeffree *is* a racist pedophile but his fans are still obsessed with him and think that he can do no wrong.
Honestly, in my opinion, I think Jeffrey manipulated Tati. She was feeling all sensitive and Jeffree saw James succeeding more than him and making more followers so Tati probably went to Jeffrey for advice or like vent you know and Jeffrey realized that she was sensitive so he turned her against James and then once he realized people started to unfollow tati he dropped her.
Kk dragon true though but don’t you dare say something like that singe he is the beloved god of yt🙄 (honestly i don’t get why but he is)(i dont hate him i just think his channel is underrated and nobody is allowed to say something about it)
Kk dragon yeah between Jeffree, Trisha, Tana, and his own past with blackface and other things, it’s hard to stan him. Plus his constant “I’m so poor I’m so poor buy my pallet” like no. I had to go on food stamps multiple times. If Shane Dawson is poor, idk wtf I was
And it was same accusation from a year ago that was brought up cos theres no new drama with James, he stayed on his lane and didn’t include himself in any drama
I like Shane Dawson and all but almost everyone he made a "redemption arc" series stayed problematic and never learned anything. He hasn't commented on Trisha Paytas (idek if he needs to) but if he goes back and acts all friendly with Trisha, without addressing her scandals and issues, I can only think that he condones those actions and I would lose a lot more respect for him.
Lenore M i don’t think he actually realises the gravity of what he’s saying when he says that.if he genuinely has evidence against james charles that means he’s keeping a victim from getting the justice they deserve because he doesn’t want anymore “tea”.i don’t think he realises that this isn’t tea, this is real life.
@@rebeccahayes6047 he's literally making huge allegations, but plays it off like it's just basic petty drama. This is no Manny and Laura being shady or whatever, it's a serious thing. Even him saying he has proof could get him in trouble if he's lying, James could sue him for slander. Jeffree honestly comes off as delusional in this podcast.
@@hhc4682 then why mention at all that he has proof, and a whole year after the drama ended?? There's no research to be done here, Jeffree is contradicting himself
Is anyone else disgusted by how Jeffree is currently dealing with his break up with Nate? In his latest video reacting to TikToks about himself, he shows a lot of really shady jokes made at Nate's expense and laughs along with them. I don't care how true they are, I don't care if he does that behind closed doors, but it is so disrespectful to do that in front of an audience of 18M people, especially when apparently one of the main reasons for the breakup was Nate not wanting to be in the public eye. Jeffree's just egging it on for his own ego and amusement.
imagine being with your partner for almost a decade and then dropping them *like it’s nothing.* that is so sociopathic, even if I didn’t already dislike him, his reaction towards the breakup would tell me all i need to know about the type of person he is.
I really think Jeffree will see his day, soon. If the things he's said, especially about James, are lies then someone needs to drag him for defamation of character. He pops off with serious allegations and ruins people. It's time someone holds him accountable for his actions.
Jeffree is an opportunist. He saw that everyone was starting to go against James and jumped on that train knowing that people will turn on his side. He did not care if this ruined James' life because it would better his
Sadude13 i’ll never get over what jeffree did to james. i don’t think it ruined james charles career but it definitely tarnished his name, possibly forever. all because he heard tati called james out with no proof and decided he could try and ruin him too?nah doesn’t sit right with me at all.
@@SpyderT22 true! I can't speak for Sadude13 but I didn't really know much about him until recently. I'd heard he was problematic but didn't know the extent of it until someone shared like a reddit compilation of receipts. I suspect a lot of people fall in that camp. But you're definitely right, it's certainly been ongoing.
Capucine the difference between everyone else and Jeffree is that jeffree became rich and famous on his own. He made himself an “icon”. Whilst everyone else uses him to get the things that he has
I still don’t like Tati but I hope she comes out from the pits of hell to expose Jeffree. Probably not but a person can hope. I mean, She was so quick to lie on James for some gummies.
Girl she didnt lie. She exaggerated gay life because shes never been exposed to it lol but she also ain't gonna get into it anymore she knows in the end it all comes back.
Shenae Never been exposed to it? Huh? are you forgetting that Jeffree is gay and Tati has been best friends with him for years and were business partners? Jeffree is also far more sexual and says the boldest and craziest things. She did lie 😂
@@shenae9080 she lied. She outright said james sexually assaulted and raped someone when the alleged victim had to come out and testify, and show with texts that James never hurt him. Maybe don't call someone a rapist if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about... Also she didn't think to "expose" a sexual predator until he didn't want to sponsor her damn Flintstones vitamins. She's just as bad as jeffree.
@@fireemberess she never said james raped someone please don't twist her words to prove your point, it's disrespectful and that woman has already moved on
I really used to love Jeffree, Tati, and Shane but after the whole James Charles scandal, I actually switched to being a James fan. I don’t like how they did that to him so I started watching his videos again (I used to hate watch his videos) and realized how much he’d matured since his past dramas. I can’t imagine stanning adults who lied to try to cancel a kid.
Exactly.. At the end of the day James is still pretty young and of course he's going to make mistakes and do dumb stuff. Imagine having all that money and fame, how overwhelming that can be. Plus... Tati and Jeffrey coming for him, literally two grown as* adults?? I was really disappointed.
For me, personally, it did not make me a James Charles fan but I had a change of heart towards Jeffree, Tati and Shane. It's never was the same ever since the scandal. Too much shady stuff after/during the dramagedon
it's so contradictory how he tries to say James is a predator and then saying things like "they've let everything behind" and even tweeted supportive things to James, why would you treat a predator with all that respect?
He is gaslighting and manipulating James. He's really abusive it makes me sick to even hear his viper voice :( I'm sure he is so full of himself that he thinks he can get away even a murder
It’s so funny how Jeffrey said that if James were to text him or call him he would’ve showed him the recordings. YET, whenever James posting the response video he clearly shows proof of him trying to contact both Tati and Jeffree about the situation and still all Jeffree did was call him a “danger to our society”
Imma say it: Jeffree Star thinks that James Charles is going to “replace” him in fame and Jeffree Star knows he’s getting older and the fans just keep getting younger.
I kind of feel these vibes too. James has just launched the influencer show and getting great success from it. Jeffree’s intimidated and uses his “tea” tactics to those rising above him to put them down, but the thing is people are not falling for that shit anymore.
Exactly! Most of Jeffree’s fans have been fans forever he’s not really gaining or losing while James on the other hand is appealing to younger crowds of people
And what makes it even worse is Jeffree is set for life. If he would grow with his fan base and actually mature and change, there would still be tons of opportunity for him. James Charles is not a threat to his legacy at all if Jeffree would just leave him alone. Jeffree is tanking his own career bcuz he won't count his blessings, shut his mouth, and become an adult that's not obsessed with youth.
I remember when I first started using youtube for purposes other than listening to music and I had no idea who Jeffree is for the longest time but all the channels were always talking about king Jeffree said this or that and made him seem like the Dumbledore of youtube...I never saw the hype lol
It’s true and honestly so does Shane, don’t get me wrong I am a fan of a Shane but some of the things he did in the past that no one even bats an eye at because he’s Shane Dawson, idk I’m just sick of how certain UA-cam’s some how get away with so much and others are attacked at anything they do. Even take for example Morgan Adams just got bashed for associating with Trisha paytas yet Shane has been friends with her through allllll of her scandals and no one seems to care!
Crystal Gonzalez I think everyone supports him by proxy because they’re scared of the consequences of saying anything bad about him. It’s like trying to be on the good side of the school bully
Blake1720 They don’t even follow each other. It’s even hilarious that Jeffree and Tati two bitter 40 yo broads who tried destroying James Charles, aren’t friends anymore.
I was on that livestream with Chris Hansen and Jeffree Star. That interview was meant to be about his relationship with Dahvie and recent events. Instead, they were talking about Jeffree, his brand, his music taste and his past. That’s clown shit.
It definitely wasn't helpful. It felt as if Chris disregarded previous victims because a girl did mention that Jeffree was present to witness at least one assault. He didn't ask hard hitting questions.
You obviously didn’t listen to a damn fucking thing in that interview. I’m not even a Jeffree Stan and do not own any of his merch but you’re comments reeks bullshit! Chris Was very thorough in his interview and did a good job interviewing Jeffree. Obviously you’re not educated in journalism. 🙄 Next!
Lisa Holte, Your Access To The Red Carpet! “You’re not educated in journalism.” 😂😂😂😂 *BISH I STUDY JOURNALISM!* So shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and learn how to use grammar properly, before you start commenting bullshit.
Jeffree spent a third of Chris Hansen's live stream talking about how much money he gives to ppl and how much better he ended up than Dahvie. And he contradicted himself left and right. It was super cringey.
My big issue with Jeffree doing all this is he's ruining credibility for actual victims. Whether you love or hate James, this label will follow him *forever* meanwhile, to all the people defending Dahvie, they're going to use Jeffree's tweets to discredit the victims and allegations. It's really bad
SO TRUE. That poor girl received sooo much hate back then for saying the truth and now shes going to have so many more people giving her hate because Jeffree said that he wasnt there
i completely agree while shane and j* get off scott free when they were proven racists and honestly they haven't changed at all they've just gotten more careful
For someone who keeps saying he doesn’t care and “who gives a f” HE sounds VERY pressed especially him feeling the need to throw jabs at James unnecessarily every few minutes.
Drama in the beauty community started when Jeffree entered the community. I don’t remember drama being a thing before him. Jeffree seems to be the common denominator in A LOT of drama, yet he’s the “victim” and miSuNdeRstOod? Make it make sense lol
Jeffree: "James will be replaying this over and over" "It's not a competition with James, because I have already won" "I have a testimony from one of James' victims" Also Jeffree: "I think James has dealt with enough mental abuse" MAKE UP YOUR MIND SIS
Ugh, Jeffree saying James has dealt with enough abuse...he was clearly trying to get off the subject acting like he cared about James and what he's gone through. What a manipulative a-hole.
Toxic people tend to collect other toxic people. She's not someone who's overall behavior I want to co-sign (anti-vaxx, neo-nazi husband, anti-Semitic behavior etc etc), but she was right about Jeffree being a manipulative loser. I'm confident enough to say I've genuinely always hated him lol.
He might be thriving, but I think the issue is more that they tried to ruin his career. Let's say that someone tried to kill you and they don't succeed, yeah you're alive, but the issue is that someone tried to kill you. I think that it's the same situation. These were two grown 30 year old people going after a then 19 year old. They tried to ruin his career and his life with no proof.
I'm ngl I cannot stand Keemstar, especially when he has gone after jessi smiles time and time again calling her a liar and saying she was a "crazy ex trying to ruin a mans career" when the guy who attacked her, admitted he did it, was charged and plead guilty for a lesser sentence. Keemstar should not have a platform nor should he be interviewing Jeffree about this kinda thing when he has practically done the same but blaming the victim and protecting the perpetrator. Also them comparing Dahvie and James is ridiculous and James could sue for slander as they are calling him a predator with no actual evidence whereas Dahvie has over 21 victims coming forward about their assaults.
Crazy how Jeffree wants to say James is a predator... yet back when Jeffree was 27, there were public tweets about him talking sexual with a 17 year old (classified as a minor in California so what he did was illegal). Of course no one wants to talk about that though, smh. Edit - I'm not sure if the tweets are still up (probably not knowing Jeffree), but Creepshow Art covers it
I don't like James in the slightest but remembering what all those GROWN ASS ADULTS did to him just makes me sick to my stomach, like they're so out of touch with reality it's terrifying
exactly. i think we all forget hes 19 from all his success and his maturity. hes still a kid. he cant even drink yet. its so sick they turned everyone on him like that
I didn't know Shane existed before the Jeffree documentary. I just watched a deadwing dork stream watching Shane's old content and omg.....it's so disgusting and racist and creepy. He's not even funny. He relied on people who mistake being shocking and edgy with comedy. I don't know how he became this nice guy of UA-cam. Everyone talked about Shane like he's the nicest most talented guy..I never found him funny. Like when he dressed up like Jeffree to go see Jeffree's factory. It was lame. The factory was interesting enough. I loved Jeffree but not anymore. I'm glad I never got around to buying any of his make-up.
if jeffree actually “didnt care” he wouldve just shut down all the questions & said “lets move on” or “thats in the past” or “i dont wanna entertain that”
yep, you can hear in his voice how he gets all excited and giggly when someone asks him about James cause he thinks he "won" and is proud of what he has done to him.
I feel like Laura and manny have completely changed and grew. Jeffree however, because he things he’s “won” this initiates a form of thinking that they don’t need change. That’s why he keeps getting in drama and controversy, because he’s not trying to change
Has Laura or Manny ever actually given their side to how that whole situation with Jeffree went down? Because it still seems like Jeffree was painted as a victim in that whole thing, and knowing Jeffree's history, that's bs.
Unoculus i think manny did make a video a year after addressing the situation but I feel like he said things in a way that he didn’t want to start up drama again.
If Jeffree really had "proof", why isn't he going to the police? That would be the only right thing to do in that situation. Either you're making this up for attention and pettiness, or you're protecting a predator and enabling this sort of behaviour.
Nicole Stoppedcaring When asked about having proof in the Dahvie situation, JS claimed that “if (he) did have proof, (he) would have gone to the police and put him behind bars”. Yet here, he has “proof” against James and doesn’t feel comfortable even expounding on what it contains or taking it to the authorities...
What really disgusted me was when he said they could all finally unfollow James Charles. Already proves how fake and disgusting he is for even thinking that.
it’s weird how jeffree said nate was straight and has never been with a guy until he met jeffree. he was always saying how he would bring girls in for nate to have sex with and etc. that might be one of the main reasons.
I laughed at the apology video with James and Tati drama all the way because it just didn't seem genuine. "Everyone thinks I'm into drama but I'm not." (paraphrased) "There's no hatred for James in this heart." "I was in a dark place."
Jefree just sounds like a clown. I feel like he just wanted to bring James down cause he’s almost 10 years younger and is doing better than Jefree was at his age.
james wasnt doing better but i feel jeffree felt threatened by how fast james grew in popularity online. perhaps wanting to take him down before he grew bigger
You compared one’s company vs ones net worth.... totally off. James has more mainstream appeal as evidenced by his followers and subscribers. And let’s compare the age gap. Jeffree was still communing with Meth heads at James’ age. He will no doubt be a lot more successful one day.
Jeffree is an evil, sour graping catty "citch" jealous of James overshadowing his popularity. Nate was with him only for $$$. Accept it Jeffree ! Stay living in your dark, lonely castle with your poms.
Isn't it strange that James Charles was getting more and more opportunities and was the most subscribed beauty channel and ever since the bye sister scandal Jeffree is now number ONE because of this scandal. there totally isn't competition.
Why can’t everyone just leave James alone? Like unless he’s done something horribly offensive or damaging to other living things he shouldn’t be dragged so much.
Notice how Jeffree is always the victim, reminds me of Gabbie Hanna who always had “crazy exes” and “psycho neighbours” and “insane friends” and always paints herself as the victim. In his own words “the truth always comes out” 🙃
him saying "everyone was like oh we can finally unfollow james" is the actual PROOF that he was jealous of him before hand and only did those collabs with him for followers. ironic how he claims he is the 'realest'. that was also the reason why james' downfall was so big. because so many people including myself didn't liked him and found him annoying because of other things he did beforehand. but that doesn't give anyone the right to call him an actual CRIMINAL with no solid evidence. and it is SO beyond ironic that it came from jeffree considering his past lmaooo i gained respect for james after all of this. he really needed to learn a lesson about wanting 'straight' boys and he learned it the hardest way possible. honestly he seems more mature than bunch 30 year olds.
i agree 100%. and it’s funny how jeffree’s cult of a fanbase will always try to defend him by saying he’s grown as a person but there is no proof that he has changed whatsoever. james has shown way more growth as a person from what happened last year and he earned my respect from that, jeffree on the other hand is constantly including himself into things that he doesn’t belong in, a man almost in his mid thirties constantly coming for people younger than him. it’s like he’s physically aged but his mentality hasn’t aged since high school.
“I don’t know how to explain it” translation: I have no proof I’m an asshole I’m envious I lied I’m evil I’m a narcissist I’m trash” i’m a sociopath I am a psychopath I’m an abuser I’m a manipulator i’m a cult leader I haven’t change and I will never change
Thank you! 💯 at this point everyone should see what evil incarnation he is. Let's see how many drama channels who Joffrey pays in secret has his back again :)) I think Joffrey will be making new millionaires soon
Please explain to me why Jeffree Star, a literal billionaire, would be envious of James Charles? I’m a fan of none of these people, but he’s not envious. He just likes holding his power over people.
What I really don’t like about Bye, Sister Scandal is this: 1.) Jeffree says sorry but at the same time never admits he was wrong. Whenever Keem and the boys ask him directly about it he hush-hushes it away like he has recordings and tea hidden away that validates him but can’t “legally” talk about. Shut up. 2.) Why hasn’t Tati gotten any heat from all this?!? The whole thing was just her throwing a tantrum because she wanted James to promote her shitty vitamins over Sugar Bear (her biggest competition at the time). She dug out videos from months prior that she laughed in as “receipts” and even though she didn’t flat out say the word “predator” that was the narrative she was pushing. 3.) James’ reputation still hasn’t recovered. It’s still a thing to just hate him for no reason even though Tati and Jeffree admitted to lying, all the tea and receipts were fake, and literally everyone who came forward saying he was inappropriate with them were also lying. Sucks man
Honestly I’m so disappointed by Jeffree at this point, he is so ready to come after James Charles but he hesitates when it comes to Dahvie Vanity??? Someone who isn’t just an alleged predator but a proven one? Does he even listen to himself and reflect his actions? I mean this is a 35 year old man, so immature and scummy. I used to be really on Jeffree‘s side and a big fan but honestly I can’t blame his former friends (laura,manny etc.) for not wanting to associate with him, he seems like such a toxic, narcissistic person and he‘s obviously always been that way, he just doesn’t bother to hide it anymore. I don’t support needlessly coming after somebody and especially not bullying but I feel like Jeffree needs to really get „exposed“(hate that word) and be humbled again. It’s just such a shame because I really love his makeup and videos, I just don’t like the person behind them. Bummer.
I unfollowed Shane on everything, all he does is a commercial now, and cover up all these people (Tana, Jake Paul, Trisha, Jeffree) Edit: wow the replies on this somehow escalated to a religious debate
Same here. The more I thought about his association with Jeffree, the more the whole "I'm an innocent sweetheart/I'm so poor" thing doesn't work with me. He knowingly associates himself with an overtly toxic, likely narcissistic person, which says something about him, even if he isn't exactly the same as Jeffree.
+ The whole "I'm poor" thing got too far in his series with J* ; like seeing J* coin made him cry but the man himself lives in a pricey home and has enough money to not worry.... Also his "I'm so fat" and panick attack/anxiety is taken too far, like I do believe he has those issues, but a mental illness is not a personality trait and it should not be used to sound relatable and quirky. For some reason people see him as a advocate for mental health and I never understood why
Not to mention why tf is he speaking for someone like kylie even though he shits on her CONSTANTLY. Like did kylie personally call/text/ talk to him saying "hey I unfollowed james bc he's a predator"? Or is he just pulling something out of his ass per usual. Hes acting like james is this big bad bully that everyone in the industry was scared off like sweethearts kylie being scared of james? Huh?🙄
Those allegations were proved to be false, and violated so many laws in the doing so. I could never imagine two grown adults in their 30's handiling a situation that poorly. I used to love Jeffree in the past, but I keep seeing the same manipulitive, narssisitic, and two faced behavour over and over and over again, so I no longer and will never again support such a person.
kat g i think because people have watched shane since they were kids. he’s like hannah montana for some people and he’s boosted j’s reputation and online platform so much
valentine2000 this!! I only unfollowed shane and jeffree on everything after this whole fiasco. I had been feeling that they were acting quite shady for a while but I just chose to ignore it because I just really liked them. But this whole situation certainly made me stop supporting them completely. It’s just sad to see people you’ve looked up to for a long time turn out to be real shitty.
I used to love Shane’s videos. They were really entertaining and I’m kinda sad at how things turned out. His content has gotten lazier, in my opinion. And for Jeffree, I was simply not into his stuff. However, the things he and Jeffree have done puts me off their videos even more. So yeah, that’s the perspective of someone who used to be subscribed to Shane. At this point it’s just out of control, I can’t even begin to comprehend how they had the lack of empathy and common sense to do some of the things they have done. That last statement applies a more to Jeffree rather than Shane, but still
@@lasso4 I'm speaking from a standpoint of someone who used to support both of them actually! I watched Shane regularly for about 4ish years and was a casual fan of Jeffrey for around 2. It was all from when I was like 11-early 15s though so when I actually opened my eyes and matured a bit I realised that both of them are not worth being a fan of sadly
kat g Yeah, it’s a bad situation for everyone overall. Especially the victims, but I’m glad more people are realizing that their favs are not actually people to look up to
I have so many issues with Jeffree. 1) Rather than saying Dahvie and James shouldn’t be brought up together, I think we should be highlighting the fact that Dahvie has people speaking on their own behalf of their trauma. If James was predatory towards people, that should be known, but it should come from the victims. Not because they should have to share their story, but because it should be their story to share. And not to minimize their experiences, but I think we have all learned that anyone can say anything on the internet. “I want Jeffree to tell the world that I was victimized by James, but I don’t want him to release my name or any hard details on the matter” paints a very suspicious narrative in my mind that Jeffree is using the trauma and victimization of real people just to paint a false picture of a famous rival. 2) Back to the point of sharing other’s stories, why would someone bring up something they have not right and no intention on verifying? When it comes to the justice system, you can’t go on record on behalf of someone else and the fact that no one wants to come forward with their own story automatically means there is no story to tell. Again, if there are people who have been actively preyed on by James, that’s one thing. But if they don’t want to cone forward themself, then there’s no real story because hear-say can’t truly lead to justice. It can corroborate a story that leads just justice for the victim, but it itself cannot be the determining factor. 3) If there are victims at the hands of James, then why haven’t they come forward? This is the time for stepping up and telling your truth with the metoo movement. This is the best time to be heard and be supported, yet everything relating to James that I have ever heard is merely from “someone who knows someone” that was the prey. Which all goes back to, if they don’t want to step forward themself then it isn’t a situation for others to be commenting on. Absolutely nothing can come from it other than ruining another’s career. Especially since this is still being brought up in different ways a year later. These victims have had time to get their story together and come out, yet all have stayed silent except reaching out to someone who is known to be a problematic liar. Why would you want someone so controversial to be the one speaking on your behalf? I hate being that person, but the more this is talked about the more I question if there are any true victims from James’s predatory actions. I don’t want to just discount a person and their experiences, but it reaches a point where I can’t help but question the validity of the statements being put out there. Of course this whole situation could just be colored by the fact that I think, based on his actions and character presented to the public, Jeffree is just a garbage human who is doing nothing but promote the idea that too many people are giving into the Devil’s melodies in order to staying relevant. #endrant
Daniel Dombrowski Well said. Even if Jeffree was a completely unknown entity, even if I didn’t know a thing about him and he came out with a video, in which he said he has been told stories by James’ victim (or victims) and therefore he knows James is a sexual abuser, it would still look like completely irresponsible rumour mongering to me. You can’t publicly claim those things without presenting any proof. You look like a foolish, attention hungry drama queen at best, and someone with an agenda at worst. To add to that Jeffree’s own accusation he had thrown at James - the tweet to James’ brother (insinuating the reason his brother went back to New York was James’ inappropriate behaviour), and accusing James of molesting Jeffree’s friend (or was it boyfriend?) in his sleep and this all looks really sinister. Jeffree seems like a person, who is willing to say anything, no matter how irresponsible or damaging, just to bring somebody down or to keep the fun of drama going. From the outside, it looks like he’s incapable of understanding sexual abuse is an incredibly serious, delicate, damaging issue, that has real impact on victims’ lives. It just doesn’t seem like he’s all that empathetic and equates allegations of abuse as just another way of generating drama for funsies. Which is repellent.
Isn’t that weird that he’s doing it at this particular moment when James charles started to get popular again and just launched his new show. I think jeffree can’t get over the fact that jc is successful
Honestly Jeffree should have lost all credibility by now considering James proved that Jeffree lied last time... he's just trying to deflect from any wrongdoing in the Dahvie situation!!
Look at Jeffree trying to put all the blame on Tati for last year's scandal. Something tells me he orchestrated the entire thing and bailed on Tati once it backfired.
I am not one so say Tati is at all innocent but this makes me wonder what really went down behind the curtains, even with Shane since James showed texts from Jeffree saying “Shane told me all the things you’ve said about me” 🤔🤔🤔
@@Claire-oq7ut I wouldn't say she's innocent, too, she's a grown woman and should've known better. But Jeffree had much more to gain from James' fall. Many of his texts and tweets from that period seem very manipulative and gaslighty
I don’t trust Jeffree Star, everyone cleans his mess every time, people just ignore his racist, arrogant and immature ass. James is so much better and he deserves to be the biggest beauty guru, he’s smart, sweet, talented and mature.
Blue Cp when Jeffree had a bad past, racist and all that, I believed he changed because I believe that most people can change. However, when it comes to him defending a pedofile, made false accusations about James, and flirted with a 17 year old when he was 27... yeah no thank you. It kinda hurts finding this out because I looked up to this person.
Venoms Keeper I’m sorry and I don’t mean to be rude but that’s not fair. If he’s still acting this way towards James, what makes you think the racism is any different? Why does everyone seem to get a pass for racism just because they “changed”? Everything else mentioned is horrible as well, but you can’t support someone who’s been racist then pull the plug because he’s done worse. Lets not act like people don’t treat racism like some phase everyone goes through, it’s not.
HermanMunster It was after what he did with James when I stopped supporting him, the racism thing was because it was 10+ years ago and I haven’t heard anything about it so I truly thought he changed. But when he acted that way towards James and growing older I realized that in reality, he has not. I don’t think racism was any different, but the fact that I haven’t heard of him being racist for that long I just thought he did change. But now, I don’t like him anymore and he needs to be held responsible for this shit. Now I’m thinking does Jeffree Star get a free pass for all this shit but yet James does something little and EVERYONE gets on his ass. James needs to be left alone and Jeffree needs to own up to his shit. Yes, if someone was racist in the past I do believe that should be held accountable, I agree with that 100%, but to be he showed that he did change and become a better person. If he hasn’t acknowledged that he wasn’t racist then I would’ve been more pissed. I feel like he’s manipulating his audience in a way too. Also, you’re not being rude lmao, you’re stating facts.
Venoms Keeper lol okay cool, I’m just used to attack mode when you comment on stuff. I really respect that you can step back and look at his actions cos a lot of people choose to ignore a lot of toxic shit these influencers do. And that’s true, if he didn’t even acknowledge the racism it would’ve been worse. James is only what, 19? Jeffree is a whole ass man, he should know better. I agree with that too, his fans definitely would’ve made some excuse to make murder okay lmao
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Luke Alexander did you like your own comment Luke?😂
I never really paid attention to this drama but your video made it pretty interesting 😂
Go get a job instead of making money with stupid drama videos. Pathetic
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Isnt it strange how Jeffree Star always says hes the "realest" to his audience but then keeps getting caught in contradictions???
I feel like its kind of a red flag when someone has to say that they are "always a 100" all the time.
Not only that, whenever his fans tried to give advices to JS, JS would defend himself with vulgar words towards them
He's good at gaslighing people
Real doesn’t mean they aren’t contradictory. That’s why you have to be careful of “real people”. It’s just short hand for always talking shit even when they only have half the info.
Gunjan P that uncooked chicken lookin az jeffree is such a snake
It’s always the people who can’t stop saying how real they are, that are so fake.
Yeah, exactly. It's always the people who have to say something about themselves and build themselves up to others who are really not what they say they are. "Because I'm so beautiful!" No, you're ugly on the inside. "I'm a good person!" Clearly you're not. "I'm nice!" Yeah okay, who are you trying to convince? Pretty sure people can see those things if you really are those things, and it really is like that. "America is free!" Lol okay.....
Delphine, the worst Blade ever
Exactly, well said
Yeah or when someone says "I hate drama" or "I'm no drama" buckle up cause a hurricane of drama is about to hit!
@@DelphineTheWorstBladeEver
You're username checks out! When she demands the death of Paarthurnax I knew she had to be... dispatched.
Ain't that the truth 🙊
Shane’s friend choices is starting to make me question Shane as a person
Shane isn’t a good person. He’s trash.
Tya Herndon he did blackface and said the n word.... at 20. Full fledged grown man. Andddddd he still has not taken down the videos meaning he is making money from them still.
I think he was genuine and just making fun videos at one point. I mean, most big content creators were. But, money and fame really ruined him. Everything that used to be truly relatable are now just part of his image, because he knows that'll keep the money coming in.
Look: Shane is friends with TANA MONGEAU, TRISHA PAYTAS and GABBIE HANNA. I think that says enough!
Birds of a feather flock together...
Jeffree Star is such a liar, he changes his stories left and right. It’s such a bummer because his makeup is dope and he’s super funny but I cannot support a shitty person like that.
Jasmine Rae yeah, I’ve been making excuses for him for a couple of years, but this “drama” is making it apparent that he is a liar and VERY toxic
Agree. Ever since the James drama I can't support Jeffrey anymore it was disgusting.
@@nk-dvm Oh now you are done 😭😂😂
Imagine thinking Jeffree is funny
Ditto
I can’t look at Jeffree and not see a bitter 30 yr old bullying a 20 yr old. He makes me insanely uncomfortable
More like a 40 year old
He's 40-
Lol y'all he's 34, a quick Google search will tell you that.
20 years is an adult I don’t really see the age thing here.
@@aliensinthecabinet9111 Your maturity level at 34 years old is not the same as your maturity level at 20. Also James is being more mature than Jeremiah Starfish so honestly its sad.
Jefree is like the worst living stereotype of gay men. Catty, manipulative, vain, egotistical, and doesn't care about stabbing people, his "friends", in the back for his own gains. The man doesn't have "friends" just stepping stones he can use and throw away to make himself look better. He's a mean girl.
cathartic reverie to many stereotype gay men I’ve met that fit this, where are the Maxxie types from skins 😭😭😭
Yung Ang5t he’s literally Regina George from mean girls
He literally acts like a rich supervillain
sis i know this is a serious post but you said "doesnt care about stabbing people" and my eyes stopped there and got confused for like 50 seconds didnt understanding hwere that stereotype came from before i continued reading
love me some moss it’s metaphorical sis
Jeffree is 34.... and he’s acting like this? the maturity wow we stan
He acts like a tennager
He's got issues
Maturity doesn’t come with age. He’s always gonna be like this
He answerd a question that his interviewer asked 😉 cause you kept compering his accusations towards dahvie with what happened with james, that is why he responded...and he didn't lie, he got the proofs but can't show thfm publicly cause the person involved is protected legaly
mimi nounoushe It's cute that you believe that when there's literally proof of how often he lies. He admitted on Chris Hansen's interview that he'd lied. Saying he saw someone molested and then saying to Chris that he didn't see anything, he just heard stories. Sorry to break it to you, babe, but that either means he lied when he made the tweets or he's lying to us now. Idk why, knowing he's verifiably full of crap by his own admission, you'd still think he was telling the truth about James. Grow up, open your eyes.
i legitimately think that jeffree is the most toxic person in the beauty community. he’s problematic, immature and so full of himself. like honestly, you’re a grown man. get a hold of yourself.
madelyn grace fact
i still believe to this day that the whole "bye sisters" scandal was orchestrated by him and he probably encouraged tati to make that video
madelyn grace everyone of his ex friends seems to have moved on and changed for the better is some way on another but Jeffree never sees the error in his own ways and moves on to new people and fuck them over.
+ he is a real predator bacause he is on the top of the whole cancel community .
@@g97g I will never get over the fact that in the background of the bye sister video there was a box of jefferee star lipsticks(or something) in the back (out of focus) but you could still tell because of the colors
Jeffree feels SO threatened by James..and he’s projecting throughout this entire interview 🙄
Shane def has involvement, the only reason he isnt on blast is because he knows how to stfu
idk if he is involved in the dahvie vanity situation, but he definitely knows more than he's letting on.
@@v.anessa1451 oh yeah. I meant the whole bye sisters scandal and his docucommercials
@@chairs3815 oh ok yeah! i think so too, i think shane probably knew jeffree and tati were lying the whole time
Jeffree said he was told everything he knows by one source who was trustworthy, maybe he meant Shane? 😳
@@v.anessa1451 ugh i think I'm extremely biased because I really like Shane and I don't want to believe he would be involved with Jeffree if he knew he was lying. I really want to believe that he actually believed what Jeffree was feeding him because they did become good friends :(
He's causing drama to take people's attention off his own with Dahvie Vanity and all those videos that surfaced 🙄
He knows exactly what he's doing.
mbd amen
that's a very unique damage control tactic I must say
Wow for sure! He really is a scary person. I don’t see how people can’t see that he bold face lies about everything.
@@ciaa8387 Jeffree be like "beauty community only does shit for money", but he wouldnt expose that Dahvie guy cause contract and money.
Honestly as far as I’m able to see, it looks like Jeffree and Shane are the problematic ones. Not James.
that’s. the. truth. jeffree and shane are motif but narcissistic manipulators who use people for their own personal gain. i don’t think either of them deserve the fan base they have. james is a way nice person, would love to see him surpass them both lol.
jeffrey saying that the beauty people are evil, greedy, and conniving really feels like he's projecting👀👀
Yeah per usual. He’s such a walking paradox
This
Ya so everyone else in the industry are horrible but he just happens to be the only exception... makes a lot of sense
lol honestly he's the first person i think of when i hear those words in the context of the beauty community
y’all hate James because he’s “annoying” but praise Jeffree while actively ignoring his racist and immature tendencies. hm.
This. Also when people say "I don't like James, but..." and then talk about how terrible Jeffree or Tati is for hurting James. Like ok, that's valid, but why do you feel the need to point out that you don't like him? That's hurtful too. It's just adding to the stigma that he's not to be liked.
Or his tendency to look the other way when minors are being sexually abused in front of him. *oof*
And most of them dont want to stop supporting Jeffree bc he "has an entertaining life" or bc he has good makeup :/ Which fair enough, he has good makeup but I just dont understand how people would want to give money to someone who is this problematic
Brought To You By Esther right?! like so many other brands and muas have good makeup
Honestly those people are just as bad as Jeffree to me, brainless sheeps.
reminder that james is 20.
TWENTY.
sure he's not a teenager but oh my god, give the kid a break! i dont watch him but it hurts my soul to know that he's never been left alone since the whole tati scandal. he's a punching bag at this point and i don't really know what he's done to deserve it other than being successful.
But James was a teenager when Jeffree dragged him. And Jeffree also dragged James’ brother unnecessarily who was a minor at the time. I never understood how 2 people that are going into their 40’s (Jeffree and Tati) came for a teenager like that. I’ve never seen a person that old do some shit like that to TEENAGERS!
i could NOT agree more. i feel so terrible for james like sure most famous people have to deal with hate but with james it’s EXCESSIVE.
For real, Shane was 20 yo when he said the n word AND did blackface
Rogerina May exactly but people can easily forget about that because “shane is a changed person, he’s learned from mistakes” like oh okay but james can’t?? plus, james never did anything *nearly* as bad as shane in the first place!!
@@jillianc7485 like exactly, when do you hear James did some crap like that, cause in the early 2000's he was a little kid doing his own thing, you can't judge every little mistake he does, so he's a kid he's going to do some stupid stuff, heck I'm the same age as him, Lord knnnnooowwwws I've done stupid stuff but I was held accountable for them, apologized and grew up from them
Jeffree is the most manipulative person in this industry. He always pushes his sob story down everyones throats and uses his whole “im the realest person” to make everyone forget all the nasty shit he has participated in. I dont like James personally but it just baffles me that this grown ass millionaire cant stop talking about these people. At this point how has he not realized he is the only common denominator. Everyone else in the beauty community is friendly with one another but for some reason Jeffree is always isolated from everyone because nobody wants anything to do with him (yet he somehow still inserts himself in every possible scenario). The way he speaks about James and Tati is so manipulative and truly disgusting
helenmontesdeoca same girl same I’ve been saying how that’s why I like this and allizes channel cus were in touch with fukn reality
Same I stopped watching his content after the bye sister situation because I couldn’t handle someone so toxic and manipulative to watch.
I used to watch JS even after the whole scandal but as time went on, he just got so irritating. He was the same as before and maybe I shouldn't have given him the benefit of the doubt but I did. I really don't like how he is now. He has a lot of self-confidence and I think the money helps him think this way.
@@neravien I watched his reviews on makeup brands, all drama doesn't really get my attention/his reviews are good. I think.
Love Jisoo yeah i used to watch those too I really loved his collabs with other ppl but after the drama I saw him in a different light and stopped watching
Ugh I really can’t stand Jeffree anymore, I’m starting to really dislike Shane too. You surround yourself with people like yourself and that’s proof enough to me.
and the fact that shane STILL surrounds himself with extremely racist homophobic transphobic ppl and cuts off the sweetest ppl like drew and garret just shows who he truly is
Ashley Burns seriously
@Teodora Cicic i never said he was a evil human for hanging out with bad ppl but stop with the naive shit hes 30 something he knows who hes hanging out with and all the shit theyve done. and the transphobic homophobic etc was referring to trisha and racist was referring to both trisha and jeffrey. your just blindley forgiving them and letting them off the hook. if you werent effected by the racist, transphobic, homophobic etc comments you have no right to say that its in their past and for us to forget about it
Teodora Cicic Shane talks in all of his videos about how he’s constantly worried about being in drama. There’s absolutely no way he’s blind to what people are saying right now about his lack of reaction to the shit things his friends have done. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve been watching Shane since his very beginning on UA-cam, I’ve supported him and bought his products and hyped him up for a long ass time. I’m a fan of his. But I’m a frustrated fan because he avoids any negativity in relation to his friendships. And if you’re not denouncing racist, transphobic, and just plain nasty behaviour you might as well be saying you support it. I’m absolutely a believer that people can change and grow. Shane is in a position of privilege with a voice and an influence, if he’s not using that to tell his followers that ‘hey, these are my friends and I still love them but I don’t support and believe in the things they’re saying/doing’ then to me it looks like he just doesn’t care enough about those marginalized groups to say anything. I don’t expect him to drop all of his best friends, because I understand that humans can have complicated relationships but I do expect him (if it’s what he truly believes in) to come out and say to his millions of followers that look up to him that what his friends are doing/saying is wrong
Does anyone know why Drew and him aren't friends anymore? 💔
Jeffree: I have evidence
Also jeffree: I don't know if it's true
Sedef yeah dude that’s called a rumor , not evidence!
Remember how last year he said he has screenshots upon screenshots and receipts and so on, and now it turned into "someone told me over the phone and I don't even know if it's true"
@@lenorem8000 and remember when he said that one of the Dolans is going to talk on camera...well that didn't happened lol
I really hate Jeffree saying that he can “reveal things off air” and that “he needs to call his lawyers” as if James is this massive serial predator. It’s just really immature and not needed. Sad that Jeffree is showing us just how IMMATURE he is
💯
just shows that he knows all he’s done is slander people bc he doesn’t have true evidence
and he says that as if it doesn’t mean that he’s holding evidence proving someone is a predator and not releasing it to the authorities or anyone who can help the victim because he doesn’t want “drama”. because drama is exactly what he wants. if it’s true he has evidence against james then he’s making james “victim” suffer without justice to uphold his image. but then again he’s friends with shane dawson who according to himself knew about a child predator in hollywood who was actively manipulating children but didn’t say anything because it “wasn’t his business”.
Rebecca Hayes HONESTLY THO!!!!!
Plus he always talks about keeping it real, you think if he had actual evidence he wouldn’t be shouting it all over the place? He’s the most emotionally driven person ever
Didn't Jeffree compliment James' makeup skills a few weeks ago?? Why would you even mention, let alone praise someone you know is a predator?? His lies make no sense
Lenore M THATS WHAT I WAS WONDERING!!!
I wonder if it has anything to do with James’ subscriber count being higher than Jeffree’s. I noticed it not that long ago. I wonder if Jeffree is starting to feel threatened by James and is trying to figure out how to bring James down again to be on top
@@jennalynn3423 it's my guess. James also has his youtube premium show, and has been collabing with a lot of creators, from both youtube and tik tok. It must rub Jeffree the wrong way to see him be so successful still, not even a year after the bye sister scandal
Lenore M exactly! Also James’ new show “instant influencer” is doing really well! I’ve watched the first episode and it’s very good! Jeffree is just feeling threatened and wanted to try and knock James down a tier by trying to start up old drama. Obviously it’s not working
I feel like jeffree’s downfall is near
I have doubts.
Amen sis, his karma is long overdue
I hope it is and when it comes I’ll be waiting
Even if he has his downfall, he will still have people supporting him + enough coin to chill the rest of his life
i hope
Lol Jeffree Star is a DANGER to society. He needs to be held accountable. I’m fed up with that GROWN MANS behavior. Pathetic.
Truly, this isn't normal behaviour. I'm think he was the one blackmailing Nikkie, tried to ruin James and Huda, ruined Manny, Laura and KVDs careers. He is unbelievably narcissistic
@@personofnoimportance5590 idk if he was the one blackmailing Nikki but he damn sure has something on her
Standing applause for using Jeremiah Starburst's tweets to describe himself!
@@cunni3tv really? Why
@@cunni3tv Jeffree has a pattern trying to take down all big competitors so I wouldn't really be surprised. And he has said himself that he has shit about everyone so he can use it against them. I hope Nikkie will speak and expose him now if it's Jeffree. Jeffree is going way too far and he needs to be stopped
Tati didn’t ever call James a predator - she called him out on inappropriate behaviour, JS is the one who implied that James was a predator and escalated the whole situation
I think this perfectly sums up the situation.
thank you for saying this. tati was wrong in the sense that she let her emotions cloud her judgment. but she never made any serious accusations against james. jeffree’s actions seemed to be 100% malicious. he knew what he was doing. he doesn’t get to backtrack now.
Dude THANK YOU, I thought I was going crazy here. Jeffree is like "oh James thinks we were behind this and we weren't", like uh yeah Tati called him out for flirting with straight guys in front of her friends and making them uncomfortable and Jeffree called him a sexual predator, so he WAS behind the whole ACCUSING HIM OF A LITERAL CRIME PART, which I think we can all agree is the only relevant aspect of this shitshow at this point.
Yes, yes, yes
Exactly! What Tati said is not the same thing as what Jeffree said.
The fact Jefree said 'we can finally unfollow James' that made me so sad, like he's saying no one really liked him, I am sure that's not true. Poor James
Wasn’t Jefree the one who thirst tweeted about a 17 year old boy?
Didn’t jefree also say that he was attracted to straight guys too? Wasn’t jefree the one who used to bring some proposal about whom James should hookup with! Wasn’t jefree the same person who said he had prove about James being a pedophile but later had nothing to show, so he acted like he was trying to shut down any drama due to the fact that he had nothing to bring to the table?
At this point Jefree is bad news. Sister James is thriving and transparent and we are going to support him with what we can. Jefree can go to hell.
💯💯
And also jeffree had a song calling straight men
Period
don;t forget he also groped a man on camera and it wasn't consensual
Yes!!!
Can someone make a “Jeffree star kissing his own ass for 30ish minutes straight” compilation?
Lalou x LMAO 🤣
That's quite a time restraint I feel like it would have to be at least two hours
Thanks for the idea 😘
ERGHMAHGAWD, can someone 💯 % 💀
I mean just watch his own UA-cam videos.
Jeffree kinda ruined Shane for me. I miss soo much the times when Shane used to do conspiracy and just travel with Ryan,Garret and Morgan exploring them, it was so much fun.
I feel like shane was always a bit fucked up but Jeffree really entertained it
Shane used to be fun
Nah Shane already was controversial af He did blackface AND said the n-word. He's been in so many controversies and at this point, you're just cherry picking.
@@Calypso1122 Just my opinion.
Okay and not to mention Jeffree and Tati were “friends” with James. Wouldn’t you trust your friend? Ask them about what you’ve heard, confront them? You would rather expose them in the internet for views? Just so fucked up
Edit: whoa that comment really blew up. Follow me on Instagram @dokkyun_heart
Yeap tati is an emotionally immature person or very manipulative.
They wouldve saw it as a chance to eliminate competition. Backfired though
They were jelly
I think Tati was butt hurt over the whole Sugar Bear thing and wanted to get back at him in some way and let her emotions get the best of her, it just shows how problematic and petty some of these people can be😪
I know and not just that but what she and those guys did to accuse James of a violent crime mocked those who really went through it like Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, Gina Dejesus, and Elizabeth Smart. Like I’m so done with these beauty gurus and you tubers and I would rather watch Jaaack Jack and Dope 211 since they aren’t problematic and underrated.
Shane is a manipulator. Periodt. His little act of _innocence_ / woe is me, when he in fact indulges in "Tea", has never fooled me.
i feel like people are ignoring that for some reason?
@@neonserendipity To be fair, his audience is very young.
edit: that could be a factor?
@@wangxu2155 really? from what I've seen they're teenagers/adults, but maybe that's me not paying attention. either way, most people see him as an "uwu smol bean who can do wrong" and i don't think that will change any time soon ://
J Ml THIS
Yume Kumo i don’t think so? Shane is an OG UA-cam creator, so I think his core fan base would be a mix of adults and teenagers on Twitter lmao.
And I don’t think young kids are interested in his documentary series, unless you mean like teenagers.
It’s obvious Tati and Jefree teamed up to attack James. Tatis video was basically an advertisement for her vitamins. Jefree just wants the publicity. It’s funny how Tati and Jefree took everything back once James showed ACTUAL EVIDENCE showing the type of people they are
and yet james STILL gets more hate than both of them combined. i genuinely feel bad for him.
jill cherry h o w. He is literally a racist pedophile
Sunkissed Showers LPS ????? i was talking about james?? fuck jeffree, that’s what im saying. like jeffree *is* a racist pedophile but his fans are still obsessed with him and think that he can do no wrong.
Sunkissed Showers LPS james has never once showed racist tendencies and he literally isn’t a pedophile lmaooo idk where u even got that from
Honestly, in my opinion, I think Jeffrey manipulated Tati. She was feeling all sensitive and Jeffree saw James succeeding more than him and making more followers so Tati probably went to Jeffrey for advice or like vent you know and Jeffrey realized that she was sensitive so he turned her against James and then once he realized people started to unfollow tati he dropped her.
James has moved on jeffree is gaslighing people and annoying the real problem
Kk dragon like usual 👌🏻
Because James is thriving after it unlike most of the people Jeffree has called out and ruined their reputations
Shane Dawson has a lot of problematic friends. I makes me question his character
Kk dragon he has a racist past, not sure if he’s actually sorry 😐
Kk dragon true though but don’t you dare say something like that singe he is the beloved god of yt🙄 (honestly i don’t get why but he is)(i dont hate him i just think his channel is underrated and nobody is allowed to say something about it)
he’s problematic himself, still makes money off his blackface videos
Same cause he really has a lot of problematic friends when he himself is problematic
Kk dragon yeah between Jeffree, Trisha, Tana, and his own past with blackface and other things, it’s hard to stan him. Plus his constant “I’m so poor I’m so poor buy my pallet” like no. I had to go on food stamps multiple times. If Shane Dawson is poor, idk wtf I was
interesting how everytime james surpasses jeffree in subscribers, jeffree has something to ‘expose’ james for
And it was same accusation from a year ago that was brought up cos theres no new drama with James, he stayed on his lane and didn’t include himself in any drama
I honestly hope he still manages to surpass Jeffree in subs lmao
@@costcocalibrator7979 i'm donating my sub to james even if i don't really do make up.
Jeffree couldn't care less about subs on UA-cam....... hes a multimillionaire lmaooo
abigail it’s the little things~
I like Shane Dawson and all but almost everyone he made a "redemption arc" series stayed problematic and never learned anything. He hasn't commented on Trisha Paytas (idek if he needs to) but if he goes back and acts all friendly with Trisha, without addressing her scandals and issues, I can only think that he condones those actions and I would lose a lot more respect for him.
I honestly cant stand Shane anymore and do not watch his videos.
i really can’t stand him anymore. i’ve finally realised he’s just as problematic as the rest of them, he’s just better at hiding it.
I don’t know about him but Trisha has stated, after all her recent controversy, that she is still friends with him
Diamond Persona so true
he’s an enabler. you know he’s enjoying watching this trisha mess unfold.
Jeffree: I have proof James is a predator, I can show you
Clown: well show us
Jeffree: It's more complicated than that.
BIIICTHHH
Lenore M i don’t think he actually realises the gravity of what he’s saying when he says that.if he genuinely has evidence against james charles that means he’s keeping a victim from getting the justice they deserve because he doesn’t want anymore “tea”.i don’t think he realises that this isn’t tea, this is real life.
@@rebeccahayes6047 he's literally making huge allegations, but plays it off like it's just basic petty drama. This is no Manny and Laura being shady or whatever, it's a serious thing. Even him saying he has proof could get him in trouble if he's lying, James could sue him for slander. Jeffree honestly comes off as delusional in this podcast.
Lenore M it’s unlikely but i really wish james would sue jeffree for defamation, it’s such a horrible situation for james to be put in.
@@lenorem8000 theres more details he might choose not to say. You do your research
@@hhc4682 then why mention at all that he has proof, and a whole year after the drama ended?? There's no research to be done here, Jeffree is contradicting himself
Is anyone else disgusted by how Jeffree is currently dealing with his break up with Nate? In his latest video reacting to TikToks about himself, he shows a lot of really shady jokes made at Nate's expense and laughs along with them. I don't care how true they are, I don't care if he does that behind closed doors, but it is so disrespectful to do that in front of an audience of 18M people, especially when apparently one of the main reasons for the breakup was Nate not wanting to be in the public eye. Jeffree's just egging it on for his own ego and amusement.
I need to watch this
Tara Marie Nate isn’t innocent
imagine being with your partner for almost a decade and then dropping them *like it’s nothing.* that is so sociopathic, even if I didn’t already dislike him, his reaction towards the breakup would tell me all i need to know about the type of person he is.
I really think Jeffree will see his day, soon. If the things he's said, especially about James, are lies then someone needs to drag him for defamation of character. He pops off with serious allegations and ruins people. It's time someone holds him accountable for his actions.
Like Jeffree himself even always say, karma's a bitch so we'll just wait and see 🤷
Jeffree is an opportunist. He saw that everyone was starting to go against James and jumped on that train knowing that people will turn on his side. He did not care if this ruined James' life because it would better his
Ruined a life it's lose suscribers? Likes? ... Please thats NOT LIFE
He is so cut throat cold blooded ready to destroy people's lives, careers and reputations
@@holiswis11 learn to read sis. There were serious allegations, it could've ruined James life.
@@personofnoimportance5590 girl if UA-cam it's delete / ends this asshole has NOTHING . Jefreey has a entired company and a REAL Careers ... Facts
@@imjustsadbro532 he deserves thath , everyone know that
Jeffree Star is the Donald Trump of the beauty community. Think about it.
!!!
Great analogy damn
Lol I can't
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This is straight up fax👏
I’m so sick of Jeffrey Star, like I used to think he was funny but not anymore, now he’s just SO toxic.
I stopped watching him after the bye sister scandal. I cannot stand him now. I really used to like him.
Sadude13 i’ll never get over what jeffree did to james. i don’t think it ruined james charles career but it definitely tarnished his name, possibly forever. all because he heard tati called james out with no proof and decided he could try and ruin him too?nah doesn’t sit right with me at all.
@@SpyderT22 true! I can't speak for Sadude13 but I didn't really know much about him until recently. I'd heard he was problematic but didn't know the extent of it until someone shared like a reddit compilation of receipts. I suspect a lot of people fall in that camp. But you're definitely right, it's certainly been ongoing.
“they’re awful, they’re evil and they only care about money” oh wow, that reminds me of someone...
Capucine the difference between everyone else and Jeffree is that jeffree became rich and famous on his own. He made himself an “icon”. Whilst everyone else uses him to get the things that he has
@The viva warrior yep everyone forgets about that cause only the og "fans" remember it
@The viva warrior who is kay
@@theoutsiderjess1869 i think they're talking about kat von d who also owns a makeup line, both were really close back then.
Yeah, i was correcting him in my head, it should've been "we're"
I still don’t like Tati but I hope she comes out from the pits of hell to expose Jeffree. Probably not but a person can hope. I mean, She was so quick to lie on James for some gummies.
Girl she didnt lie. She exaggerated gay life because shes never been exposed to it lol but she also ain't gonna get into it anymore she knows in the end it all comes back.
Shenae Never been exposed to it? Huh? are you forgetting that Jeffree is gay and Tati has been best friends with him for years and were business partners? Jeffree is also far more sexual and says the boldest and craziest things. She did lie 😂
Netflix&Food__48/7 pits of hell💀
@@shenae9080 she lied. She outright said james sexually assaulted and raped someone when the alleged victim had to come out and testify, and show with texts that James never hurt him.
Maybe don't call someone a rapist if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about...
Also she didn't think to "expose" a sexual predator until he didn't want to sponsor her damn Flintstones vitamins.
She's just as bad as jeffree.
@@fireemberess she never said james raped someone please don't twist her words to prove your point, it's disrespectful and that woman has already moved on
I really used to love Jeffree, Tati, and Shane but after the whole James Charles scandal, I actually switched to being a James fan. I don’t like how they did that to him so I started watching his videos again (I used to hate watch his videos) and realized how much he’d matured since his past dramas. I can’t imagine stanning adults who lied to try to cancel a kid.
Exactly.. At the end of the day James is still pretty young and of course he's going to make mistakes and do dumb stuff. Imagine having all that money and fame, how overwhelming that can be. Plus... Tati and Jeffrey coming for him, literally two grown as* adults?? I was really disappointed.
So true. Jeffree is jealous of James. James even passed him in subs lol😭 then he also tried to kiss James ass with that Charli dmelio video
my career is over honestly, Jefrees just jealous
YAS 👏
For me, personally, it did not make me a James Charles fan but I had a change of heart towards Jeffree, Tati and Shane. It's never was the same ever since the scandal. Too much shady stuff after/during the dramagedon
it's so contradictory how he tries to say James is a predator and then saying things like "they've let everything behind" and even tweeted supportive things to James, why would you treat a predator with all that respect?
he did the same thing to dahvie vanity who’s an actual predator so it’s pretty on-brand for him.
He is gaslighting and manipulating James. He's really abusive it makes me sick to even hear his viper voice :( I'm sure he is so full of himself that he thinks he can get away even a murder
It’s so funny how Jeffrey said that if James were to text him or call him he would’ve showed him the recordings. YET, whenever James posting the response video he clearly shows proof of him trying to contact both Tati and Jeffree about the situation and still all Jeffree did was call him a “danger to our society”
Imma say it: Jeffree Star thinks that James Charles is going to “replace” him in fame and Jeffree Star knows he’s getting older and the fans just keep getting younger.
Krystine Killer True
I kind of feel these vibes too. James has just launched the influencer show and getting great success from it. Jeffree’s intimidated and uses his “tea” tactics to those rising above him to put them down, but the thing is people are not falling for that shit anymore.
Exactly! Most of Jeffree’s fans have been fans forever he’s not really gaining or losing while James on the other hand is appealing to younger crowds of people
And what makes it even worse is Jeffree is set for life. If he would grow with his fan base and actually mature and change, there would still be tons of opportunity for him. James Charles is not a threat to his legacy at all if Jeffree would just leave him alone. Jeffree is tanking his own career bcuz he won't count his blessings, shut his mouth, and become an adult that's not obsessed with youth.
If I remember correctly, a few months before it happened, James passed Jeffree in subs.
But then again jeffree has a pass for anything he does wrong just because of his name
I remember when I first started using youtube for purposes other than listening to music and I had no idea who Jeffree is for the longest time but all the channels were always talking about king Jeffree said this or that and made him seem like the Dumbledore of youtube...I never saw the hype lol
@@KillTheBeats91 almost everyone supports him, and loves him, it's ridiculous after everything he's done they still support him cause he's "iconic"
It’s true and honestly so does Shane, don’t get me wrong I am a fan of a Shane but some of the things he did in the past that no one even bats an eye at because he’s Shane Dawson, idk I’m just sick of how certain UA-cam’s some how get away with so much and others are attacked at anything they do. Even take for example Morgan Adams just got bashed for associating with Trisha paytas yet Shane has been friends with her through allllll of her scandals and no one seems to care!
Crystal Gonzalez I think everyone supports him by proxy because they’re scared of the consequences of saying anything bad about him. It’s like trying to be on the good side of the school bully
@@froufroudeluxe yes exactly :((
James, don’t ever contact JS. He’s toxic, manipulative, and above all a self admitted liar. There’s nothing to gain from hearing “his side.”
Blake1720 They don’t even follow each other. It’s even hilarious that Jeffree and Tati two bitter 40 yo broads who tried destroying James Charles, aren’t friends anymore.
I was on that livestream with Chris Hansen and Jeffree Star. That interview was meant to be about his relationship with Dahvie and recent events. Instead, they were talking about Jeffree, his brand, his music taste and his past. That’s clown shit.
It was a terrible interview
It definitely wasn't helpful. It felt as if Chris disregarded previous victims because a girl did mention that Jeffree was present to witness at least one assault. He didn't ask hard hitting questions.
You obviously didn’t listen to a damn fucking thing in that interview. I’m not even a Jeffree Stan and do not own any of his merch but you’re comments reeks bullshit! Chris Was very thorough in his interview and did a good job interviewing Jeffree. Obviously you’re not educated in journalism. 🙄 Next!
Lisa Holte, Your Access To The Red Carpet! “You’re not educated in journalism.” 😂😂😂😂 *BISH I STUDY JOURNALISM!* So shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and learn how to use grammar properly, before you start commenting bullshit.
@@accesstotheredcarpet You're so angry sis
Irrelevant but Shane Dawson is so overrated and so are his diehard fans who claim he can do no wrong
THANK YOU
Facts tho
Speaking nuttin' but FACTS
I can’t see how they stan him when he’s literal best friends with the most problematic people: Trisha Paytas, Tana, and Jeffree
y’all say that but then hop on his channel IMMEDIATELY after he uploads... make it make sense ??? lol
Jeffree spent a third of Chris Hansen's live stream talking about how much money he gives to ppl and how much better he ended up than Dahvie. And he contradicted himself left and right. It was super cringey.
My big issue with Jeffree doing all this is he's ruining credibility for actual victims. Whether you love or hate James, this label will follow him *forever* meanwhile, to all the people defending Dahvie, they're going to use Jeffree's tweets to discredit the victims and allegations.
It's really bad
SteviiLove underrated comment!!
SO TRUE. That poor girl received sooo much hate back then for saying the truth and now shes going to have so many more people giving her hate because Jeffree said that he wasnt there
Yes THANK YOU!!!
i completely agree while shane and j* get off scott free when they were proven racists and honestly they haven't changed at all they've just gotten more careful
For someone who keeps saying he doesn’t care and “who gives a f” HE sounds VERY pressed especially him feeling the need to throw jabs at James unnecessarily every few minutes.
Jeffree is like “I don’t care!!” Yet continues to talk about it.
Drama in the beauty community started when Jeffree entered the community. I don’t remember drama being a thing before him. Jeffree seems to be the common denominator in A LOT of drama, yet he’s the “victim” and miSuNdeRstOod? Make it make sense lol
Exactly
To be fair, the drama community was barely the drama community before JS came around.
Love Junkie agreed!!
its not even just that- he puts himself between everything and makes the spotlight 'shine' on him. That shit gets old fast.
100% so happy that people are finally realizing lol!
Jeffree: "James will be replaying this over and over" "It's not a competition with James, because I have already won" "I have a testimony from one of James' victims"
Also Jeffree: "I think James has dealt with enough mental abuse"
MAKE UP YOUR MIND SIS
Jolien W LITERALLY
Ugh, Jeffree saying James has dealt with enough abuse...he was clearly trying to get off the subject acting like he cared about James and what he's gone through. What a manipulative a-hole.
though I feel Kat Von D is crazy in her own way, I feel like Kat Von D had a point all those years ago about Jeffree......
Toxic people tend to collect other toxic people. She's not someone who's overall behavior I want to co-sign (anti-vaxx, neo-nazi husband, anti-Semitic behavior etc etc), but she was right about Jeffree being a manipulative loser. I'm confident enough to say I've genuinely always hated him lol.
Girl she's a nazi 🙄 ofc she is going to recognize another garbage when she see one in the mirror all the time
I think it’s James who should be saying “you’re still concerned with me”
oh yes i hate jeffree right now ... so sad that he becomes very toxic
@@pcmiffy07 he always been toxic
pcmiffy07 become? He’s been like this...
hahahaha so true, it makes me feel sorry for Manny and Laura... maybe they knew something and people were to rough on them
I hope James doesn’t respond and just keeps living his life and doing what he loves.
Let’s be real, nobody ruined James’ career. He’s thriving
They tried tho, almost do it
True. And even tho he did get past all of it those allegations will always be associated with his name regardless of what the truth is
Right at this point I feel like this scandal was just a stage thing for people to buy products
Maybe, but they did ruin his mental health, he thought about ending his own life and that is even worse. Idk that's the way I see it
He might be thriving, but I think the issue is more that they tried to ruin his career. Let's say that someone tried to kill you and they don't succeed, yeah you're alive, but the issue is that someone tried to kill you. I think that it's the same situation. These were two grown 30 year old people going after a then 19 year old. They tried to ruin his career and his life with no proof.
I'm ngl I cannot stand Keemstar, especially when he has gone after jessi smiles time and time again calling her a liar and saying she was a "crazy ex trying to ruin a mans career" when the guy who attacked her, admitted he did it, was charged and plead guilty for a lesser sentence. Keemstar should not have a platform nor should he be interviewing Jeffree about this kinda thing when he has practically done the same but blaming the victim and protecting the perpetrator. Also them comparing Dahvie and James is ridiculous and James could sue for slander as they are calling him a predator with no actual evidence whereas Dahvie has over 21 victims coming forward about their assaults.
Crazy how Jeffree wants to say James is a predator... yet back when Jeffree was 27, there were public tweets about him talking sexual with a 17 year old (classified as a minor in California so what he did was illegal). Of course no one wants to talk about that though, smh.
Edit - I'm not sure if the tweets are still up (probably not knowing Jeffree), but Creepshow Art covers it
Rt
There are also screencaps of him posting to a revenge porn site. Inappropriate videos and pics of people who didn't know they were being filmed.
@@kaylabarr7432 wait, seriously? All of it is bad but that's also pretty effin bad
@@Shikamarugirl7 Yeah you can find the screen recordings on Twitter. It was a revenge porn site called IsAnyoneUp
@@kaylabarr7432 wtf??? This should be a coverage but ofc Drama channels won't talk about it because JS has them around his fingers.
I don't like James in the slightest but remembering what all those GROWN ASS ADULTS did to him just makes me sick to my stomach, like they're so out of touch with reality it's terrifying
exactly. i think we all forget hes 19 from all his success and his maturity. hes still a kid. he cant even drink yet. its so sick they turned everyone on him like that
Eveyone forgets about the content Shane use to make, Shane is just as bad as these guys, his just now seen as a goddess on UA-cam now
and he won’t delete the black face and stuff just ugh
@@nekaiyalapsley5466 his the worst kind of UA-camr, the fake kind. His friends with the worst UA-camrs cause his the same.
I didn't know Shane existed before the Jeffree documentary. I just watched a deadwing dork stream watching Shane's old content and omg.....it's so disgusting and racist and creepy. He's not even funny. He relied on people who mistake being shocking and edgy with comedy.
I don't know how he became this nice guy of UA-cam.
Everyone talked about Shane like he's the nicest most talented guy..I never found him funny. Like when he dressed up like Jeffree to go see Jeffree's factory. It was lame. The factory was interesting enough.
I loved Jeffree but not anymore. I'm glad I never got around to buying any of his make-up.
if jeffree actually “didnt care” he wouldve just shut down all the questions & said “lets move on” or “thats in the past” or “i dont wanna entertain that”
yep, you can hear in his voice how he gets all excited and giggly when someone asks him about James cause he thinks he "won" and is proud of what he has done to him.
I feel like Laura and manny have completely changed and grew. Jeffree however, because he things he’s “won” this initiates a form of thinking that they don’t need change. That’s why he keeps getting in drama and controversy, because he’s not trying to change
Laura actually seems nice. She literally is taking care of her sisters daughter while she is recovering from drug abuse I believe (maybe alcoholism?)
Has Laura or Manny ever actually given their side to how that whole situation with Jeffree went down? Because it still seems like Jeffree was painted as a victim in that whole thing, and knowing Jeffree's history, that's bs.
Unoculus i think manny did make a video a year after addressing the situation but I feel like he said things in a way that he didn’t want to start up drama again.
Yeah I agree with Manny changing
If Jeffree really had "proof", why isn't he going to the police? That would be the only right thing to do in that situation. Either you're making this up for attention and pettiness, or you're protecting a predator and enabling this sort of behaviour.
Nicole Stoppedcaring When asked about having proof in the Dahvie situation, JS claimed that “if (he) did have proof, (he) would have gone to the police and put him behind bars”. Yet here, he has “proof” against James and doesn’t feel comfortable even expounding on what it contains or taking it to the authorities...
What really disgusted me was when he said they could all finally unfollow James Charles. Already proves how fake and disgusting he is for even thinking that.
I honestly wonder if this is why Nate left him. He probably didn’t want to be associated with Jeffree problematic behavior
Wouldn't be suprised
or he realised that money was the only good thing in the relationship and not even that could make him stay because of how repulsive jeffrey is
it’s weird how jeffree said nate was straight and has never been with a guy until he met jeffree. he was always saying how he would bring girls in for nate to have sex with and etc. that might be one of the main reasons.
alex ツ oh yeah I remember that
He’s always going to be associated with jefree since he got famous from him
jefree saying he wouldn’t drag someone when he drags his fans all the time 💀
I laughed at the apology video with James and Tati drama all the way because it just didn't seem genuine.
"Everyone thinks I'm into drama but I'm not." (paraphrased)
"There's no hatred for James in this heart."
"I was in a dark place."
Junjun Jamore people always finding excuses.
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Jeffree pushes everyone down so he can be on top. That’s what he’s been doing since he started
Jeffree like a fat trampeling elephant
Jefree just sounds like a clown. I feel like he just wanted to bring James down cause he’s almost 10 years younger and is doing better than Jefree was at his age.
James is 14 years younger than Jeffree
idk about way better he’s not as rich as him
I mean Jeffrees company is worth $1.5 billion according to Forbes, James is worth like 9 million and Jeffree definitely has more mainstream fame lol
james wasnt doing better but i feel jeffree felt threatened by how fast james grew in popularity online. perhaps wanting to take him down before he grew bigger
You compared one’s company vs ones net worth.... totally off. James has more mainstream appeal as evidenced by his followers and subscribers. And let’s compare the age gap. Jeffree was still communing with Meth heads at James’ age. He will no doubt be a lot more successful one day.
I'm so tired of everyone dragging James Charles
Jeffree is an evil, sour graping catty "citch" jealous of James overshadowing his popularity. Nate was with him only for $$$. Accept it Jeffree ! Stay living in your dark, lonely castle with your poms.
Isn't it strange that James Charles was getting more and more opportunities and was the most subscribed beauty channel and ever since the bye sister scandal Jeffree is now number ONE because of this scandal. there totally isn't competition.
James has more subs I dont know about the other stuff because I watch neither
Maddy Beaulieu Now he does but when the scandal happened I remember people celebrating jeffree star for being number one
soy Jeffree doesn’t want to admit he was intimidated by the new pretty boy in the room
James got more subs
I think he’s bringing this back up because James is number one again.
Why can’t everyone just leave James alone?
Like unless he’s done something horribly offensive or damaging to other living things he shouldn’t be dragged so much.
james truly is doing well, he’s rly thriving rn, making connections, knowing how to connect with his young audience!! i admire his bounce back
Notice how Jeffree is always the victim, reminds me of Gabbie Hanna who always had “crazy exes” and “psycho neighbours” and “insane friends” and always paints herself as the victim. In his own words “the truth always comes out” 🙃
him saying "everyone was like oh we can finally unfollow james" is the actual PROOF that he was jealous of him before hand and only did those collabs with him for followers. ironic how he claims he is the 'realest'.
that was also the reason why james' downfall was so big. because so many people including myself didn't liked him and found him annoying because of other things he did beforehand. but that doesn't give anyone the right to call him an actual CRIMINAL with no solid evidence. and it is SO beyond ironic that it came from jeffree considering his past lmaooo
i gained respect for james after all of this. he really needed to learn a lesson about wanting 'straight' boys and he learned it the hardest way possible. honestly he seems more mature than bunch 30 year olds.
i agree 100%. and it’s funny how jeffree’s cult of a fanbase will always try to defend him by saying he’s grown as a person but there is no proof that he has changed whatsoever. james has shown way more growth as a person from what happened last year and he earned my respect from that, jeffree on the other hand is constantly including himself into things that he doesn’t belong in, a man almost in his mid thirties constantly coming for people younger than him. it’s like he’s physically aged but his mentality hasn’t aged since high school.
i don’t even like james but i’m tired of people constantly coming for him for literally no reason i’m TIRED of it
Can someone pls explain how Jeffree “didn’t do anything” but he made an apology video, saying sorry for everything he said and done?
“I don’t know how to explain it” translation:
I have no proof I’m an asshole I’m envious I lied I’m evil I’m a narcissist I’m trash” i’m a sociopath I am a psychopath I’m an abuser I’m a manipulator i’m a cult leader I haven’t change and I will never change
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Thank you! 💯 at this point everyone should see what evil incarnation he is. Let's see how many drama channels who Joffrey pays in secret has his back again :)) I think Joffrey will be making new millionaires soon
jeffree is a demon honestly... he makes me absolutely sick
Please explain to me why Jeffree Star, a literal billionaire, would be envious of James Charles? I’m a fan of none of these people, but he’s not envious. He just likes holding his power over people.
@@emlee1176 they are in same business, James is his biggest competition and he has took down others already or at least tried. He has a pattern
What I really don’t like about Bye, Sister Scandal is this: 1.) Jeffree says sorry but at the same time never admits he was wrong. Whenever Keem and the boys ask him directly about it he hush-hushes it away like he has recordings and tea hidden away that validates him but can’t “legally” talk about. Shut up. 2.) Why hasn’t Tati gotten any heat from all this?!? The whole thing was just her throwing a tantrum because she wanted James to promote her shitty vitamins over Sugar Bear (her biggest competition at the time). She dug out videos from months prior that she laughed in as “receipts” and even though she didn’t flat out say the word “predator” that was the narrative she was pushing. 3.) James’ reputation still hasn’t recovered. It’s still a thing to just hate him for no reason even though Tati and Jeffree admitted to lying, all the tea and receipts were fake, and literally everyone who came forward saying he was inappropriate with them were also lying. Sucks man
i am SO SICK of the james hate. literally all of that hate should be directed towards Tati and jeffree, they are literal bullies
Jeffree is mad he did not ruin James career and he is still thriving on UA-cam
Kk dragon And now has more UA-cam subscribers
he is sooo mad. He was hoping to take him out like he took out his other 'friends'
He’s absolutely seething. The way he has to convince himself he somehow won
luke: says dahvie vanity with australian accent
me & my sleep deprived brain: keeps hearing dobby vanity
Sameee lol
Thought it was just me
I honestly thought Dobby was his real name lol
I thought he was south African and moved to Australia
Josy P The CC says “Doggie Vanity” 😂
Honestly I’m so disappointed by Jeffree at this point, he is so ready to come after James Charles but he hesitates when it comes to Dahvie Vanity??? Someone who isn’t just an alleged predator but a proven one? Does he even listen to himself and reflect his actions? I mean this is a 35 year old man, so immature and scummy. I used to be really on Jeffree‘s side and a big fan but honestly I can’t blame his former friends (laura,manny etc.) for not wanting to associate with him, he seems like such a toxic, narcissistic person and he‘s obviously always been that way, he just doesn’t bother to hide it anymore. I don’t support needlessly coming after somebody and especially not bullying but I feel like Jeffree needs to really get „exposed“(hate that word) and be humbled again. It’s just such a shame because I really love his makeup and videos, I just don’t like the person behind them. Bummer.
I unfollowed Shane on everything, all he does is a commercial now, and cover up all these people (Tana, Jake Paul, Trisha, Jeffree)
Edit: wow the replies on this somehow escalated to a religious debate
American Rebel Princess right I swear he’s being paid to use his platform to cover up for these people
Same here. The more I thought about his association with Jeffree, the more the whole "I'm an innocent sweetheart/I'm so poor" thing doesn't work with me. He knowingly associates himself with an overtly toxic, likely narcissistic person, which says something about him, even if he isn't exactly the same as Jeffree.
+ The whole "I'm poor" thing got too far in his series with J* ; like seeing J* coin made him cry but the man himself lives in a pricey home and has enough money to not worry....
Also his "I'm so fat" and panick attack/anxiety is taken too far, like I do believe he has those issues, but a mental illness is not a personality trait and it should not be used to sound relatable and quirky. For some reason people see him as a advocate for mental health and I never understood why
Jasmine Ochoa he didn’t really tho
Jasmine Ochoa yup sure 🙄
“We all finally can” in reference to unfollowing him. Disgusting. What a fake friend and bully.
Sparkle Bubble yeah, that’s pretty parallel to him saying that “calling Dahvie my brother is just me being dramatic”. Like what??? Lol
Not to mention why tf is he speaking for someone like kylie even though he shits on her CONSTANTLY. Like did kylie personally call/text/ talk to him saying "hey I unfollowed james bc he's a predator"? Or is he just pulling something out of his ass per usual. Hes acting like james is this big bad bully that everyone in the industry was scared off like sweethearts kylie being scared of james? Huh?🙄
This entire video is a “say it louder for people in the back” moment
Those allegations were proved to be false, and violated so many laws in the doing so. I could never imagine two grown adults in their 30's handiling a situation that poorly. I used to love Jeffree in the past, but I keep seeing the same manipulitive, narssisitic, and two faced behavour over and over and over again, so I no longer and will never again support such a person.
Whatever comes out of jeffree mouth is straight shit and I hope karma catches up with him
Wasnt he like complimenting James not that long ago and now he is coming for him again, I cant- with Jeffree anymore
is no one gonna talk about how Jeffree said that Grayson Dolan was molested by James in his sleep????
I believed he was molested but doesn't wanna say it publicly, james really harasses him constantly on their videos.
Austin Eames wait...what’s ur source because that’s a very serious assumption
@@Amy-kd5fm you can literally find a yt video of him harassing him constantly
@@austineames3590 james explained that all of that was staged for their sister squad videos!
@@neptune973 besides him there are more times of him hitting on straight guys
stanning jefree/Shane is so questionable like? they're both so shady why do people just blindly follow them
kat g i think because people have watched shane since they were kids. he’s like hannah montana for some people and he’s boosted j’s reputation and online platform so much
valentine2000 this!! I only unfollowed shane and jeffree on everything after this whole fiasco. I had been feeling that they were acting quite shady for a while but I just chose to ignore it because I just really liked them. But this whole situation certainly made me stop supporting them completely. It’s just sad to see people you’ve looked up to for a long time turn out to be real shitty.
I used to love Shane’s videos. They were really entertaining and I’m kinda sad at how things turned out. His content has gotten lazier, in my opinion. And for Jeffree, I was simply not into his stuff. However, the things he and Jeffree have done puts me off their videos even more. So yeah, that’s the perspective of someone who used to be subscribed to Shane. At this point it’s just out of control, I can’t even begin to comprehend how they had the lack of empathy and common sense to do some of the things they have done. That last statement applies a more to Jeffree rather than Shane, but still
@@lasso4 I'm speaking from a standpoint of someone who used to support both of them actually! I watched Shane regularly for about 4ish years and was a casual fan of Jeffrey for around 2. It was all from when I was like 11-early 15s though so when I actually opened my eyes and matured a bit I realised that both of them are not worth being a fan of sadly
kat g Yeah, it’s a bad situation for everyone overall. Especially the victims, but I’m glad more people are realizing that their favs are not actually people to look up to
“I don’t care about drama” then goes on to say “drama is fun”??? Bruv.
I have so many issues with Jeffree.
1) Rather than saying Dahvie and James shouldn’t be brought up together, I think we should be highlighting the fact that Dahvie has people speaking on their own behalf of their trauma. If James was predatory towards people, that should be known, but it should come from the victims. Not because they should have to share their story, but because it should be their story to share. And not to minimize their experiences, but I think we have all learned that anyone can say anything on the internet. “I want Jeffree to tell the world that I was victimized by James, but I don’t want him to release my name or any hard details on the matter” paints a very suspicious narrative in my mind that Jeffree is using the trauma and victimization of real people just to paint a false picture of a famous rival.
2) Back to the point of sharing other’s stories, why would someone bring up something they have not right and no intention on verifying? When it comes to the justice system, you can’t go on record on behalf of someone else and the fact that no one wants to come forward with their own story automatically means there is no story to tell. Again, if there are people who have been actively preyed on by James, that’s one thing. But if they don’t want to cone forward themself, then there’s no real story because hear-say can’t truly lead to justice. It can corroborate a story that leads just justice for the victim, but it itself cannot be the determining factor.
3) If there are victims at the hands of James, then why haven’t they come forward? This is the time for stepping up and telling your truth with the metoo movement. This is the best time to be heard and be supported, yet everything relating to James that I have ever heard is merely from “someone who knows someone” that was the prey. Which all goes back to, if they don’t want to step forward themself then it isn’t a situation for others to be commenting on. Absolutely nothing can come from it other than ruining another’s career. Especially since this is still being brought up in different ways a year later. These victims have had time to get their story together and come out, yet all have stayed silent except reaching out to someone who is known to be a problematic liar. Why would you want someone so controversial to be the one speaking on your behalf?
I hate being that person, but the more this is talked about the more I question if there are any true victims from James’s predatory actions. I don’t want to just discount a person and their experiences, but it reaches a point where I can’t help but question the validity of the statements being put out there.
Of course this whole situation could just be colored by the fact that I think, based on his actions and character presented to the public, Jeffree is just a garbage human who is doing nothing but promote the idea that too many people are giving into the Devil’s melodies in order to staying relevant.
#endrant
Daniel Dombrowski
Well said. Even if Jeffree was a completely unknown entity, even if I didn’t know a thing about him and he came out with a video, in which he said he has been told stories by James’ victim (or victims) and therefore he knows James is a sexual abuser, it would still look like completely irresponsible rumour mongering to me. You can’t publicly claim those things without presenting any proof. You look like a foolish, attention hungry drama queen at best, and someone with an agenda at worst. To add to that Jeffree’s own accusation he had thrown at James - the tweet to James’ brother (insinuating the reason his brother went back to New York was James’ inappropriate behaviour), and accusing James of molesting Jeffree’s friend (or was it boyfriend?) in his sleep and this all looks really sinister.
Jeffree seems like a person, who is willing to say anything, no matter how irresponsible or damaging, just to bring somebody down or to keep the fun of drama going. From the outside, it looks like he’s incapable of understanding sexual abuse is an incredibly serious, delicate, damaging issue, that has real impact on victims’ lives. It just doesn’t seem like he’s all that empathetic and equates allegations of abuse as just another way of generating drama for funsies. Which is repellent.
Isn’t that weird that he’s doing it at this particular moment when James charles started to get popular again and just launched his new show. I think jeffree can’t get over the fact that jc is successful
Honestly Jeffree should have lost all credibility by now considering James proved that Jeffree lied last time... he's just trying to deflect from any wrongdoing in the Dahvie situation!!
If you are given information that indicates someone being a predator, you take that to THE POLICE. Not goddamn twitter.
Look at Jeffree trying to put all the blame on Tati for last year's scandal. Something tells me he orchestrated the entire thing and bailed on Tati once it backfired.
bingo
I am not one so say Tati is at all innocent but this makes me wonder what really went down behind the curtains, even with Shane since James showed texts from Jeffree saying “Shane told me all the things you’ve said about me” 🤔🤔🤔
@@Claire-oq7ut I wouldn't say she's innocent, too, she's a grown woman and should've known better. But Jeffree had much more to gain from James' fall. Many of his texts and tweets from that period seem very manipulative and gaslighty
I don’t trust Jeffree Star, everyone cleans his mess every time, people just ignore his racist, arrogant and immature ass. James is so much better and he deserves to be the biggest beauty guru, he’s smart, sweet, talented and mature.
Blue Cp when Jeffree had a bad past, racist and all that, I believed he changed because I believe that most people can change. However, when it comes to him defending a pedofile, made false accusations about James, and flirted with a 17 year old when he was 27... yeah no thank you. It kinda hurts finding this out because I looked up to this person.
Venoms Keeper I’m sorry and I don’t mean to be rude but that’s not fair. If he’s still acting this way towards James, what makes you think the racism is any different? Why does everyone seem to get a pass for racism just because they “changed”? Everything else mentioned is horrible as well, but you can’t support someone who’s been racist then pull the plug because he’s done worse. Lets not act like people don’t treat racism like some phase everyone goes through, it’s not.
HermanMunster It was after what he did with James when I stopped supporting him, the racism thing was because it was 10+ years ago and I haven’t heard anything about it so I truly thought he changed. But when he acted that way towards James and growing older I realized that in reality, he has not. I don’t think racism was any different, but the fact that I haven’t heard of him being racist for that long I just thought he did change. But now, I don’t like him anymore and he needs to be held responsible for this shit. Now I’m thinking does Jeffree Star get a free pass for all this shit but yet James does something little and EVERYONE gets on his ass. James needs to be left alone and Jeffree needs to own up to his shit. Yes, if someone was racist in the past I do believe that should be held accountable, I agree with that 100%, but to be he showed that he did change and become a better person. If he hasn’t acknowledged that he wasn’t racist then I would’ve been more pissed. I feel like he’s manipulating his audience in a way too. Also, you’re not being rude lmao, you’re stating facts.
Jeffree could’ve murdered someone and given a free pass by his fans because “it was the old Jeffree” or some shit.
Venoms Keeper lol okay cool, I’m just used to attack mode when you comment on stuff. I really respect that you can step back and look at his actions cos a lot of people choose to ignore a lot of toxic shit these influencers do. And that’s true, if he didn’t even acknowledge the racism it would’ve been worse. James is only what, 19? Jeffree is a whole ass man, he should know better. I agree with that too, his fans definitely would’ve made some excuse to make murder okay lmao
“Shane is the king of UA-cam”.... let me check Pewdipie’s channel again.... Seems like not?