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Has Shane Dawson Lost His Mind?...Breaking Down His "Bye Sister" Statement
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2020
- In todays video Im breaking down Shane Dawsons tweets about the "Bye Sister" scandal regarding the recent drama with him, Jeffree Star, Tati Westbrook and James Charles. Yikes...lets discuss...
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That is a TERRIFYING doorbell! Jeeezuz *grasps heart
Shane *gets a little criticism*
Shane: “I’m too sensitive”
James *almost kills himself*
Shane: “He deserved a piece of humble pie”
Yeah. I was a huge shane fan but that sentence specifically really pissed me off. He never came off as too egocentric to me, maybe I missed something. But I wish they would at least tell us their reasoning for whatever they were trying to do last year. I just wonder if they won’t elaborate because they have dirt they don’t want to be dug up.
Shane has literally publicly stated that he thinks naked babies are sexy, and he doesn’t understand why it’s illegal to jerk if to babies. He has also called a NINE year old girl sexy. Why tf is no one talking about!? Everyone was willing to go after James Charles without prof and here is shane publicly stating that he dosen’t understand why it’s illegal to jerk of to babies!?
Jeffree is also a predtor who groomed an underage boy who was 16 at the time of I’m not mistaken. He left the evidence in his own tweets. And then we also have the fact that he has a history of supporting predtors, and yes predtorS. As in more then one. One of which is now convicted for raping a BABY and making a sex tape while doing it. Jeffree was in contact with him right before he was arrested. WHY IS NO ONE TAKING ABOUT THIS!?
Jacqueline Friman because they all believe Shane when he says it was just jokes. Not to mention everyone thinks Jeffree is just so amazing and a tortured soul, despite the fact he’s not. I LOVE when Jeffree called James a creep for liking straight men, but yet Jeffree has tweet after tweet about how much he loves straight dick and straight guys, he also talked about in his first “series” with Shane about how he would purposefully fuck straight men and how Nate is straight, but yet, no one talks about that.
Miu I KNOW!!! ITS SUCH MENTAL GYMNASTICS!!!
@@temerianlillies links pls
I don’t think giving a “slice of humble pie” should be accusing someone of sexual assault. That’s a whole crime lol
EXACTLY
Literal Defamation of character based on no evidence.... yet wants us to believe he’s a good person when there’s literal video proof of him being racist wearing black face and sting slurs...,. Okkkayyyy
exactly, that is why common sense is that James was probably not innocent as otherwise this d end up at court. As a lawyer I am rly confused why so many ppl believe that James is innocent, coz legally there is just no way.
Another pair of delusional people spreading lies, yikes
@@Kunoichi4ever4 innocent or not, you can not accuse him of being a predator without giving proof. Its easily considered defamation. Jeffree admitted that it was all on hearsay. He chose to believe a voicenote apparently. If james isnt innocent, jeffree should take him to court instead of going off on his brother.
Honestly I don’t even want James to respond. He’s buying his first house and moving on in his life. As much as I’d enjoy some closure I really don’t want James to be caught up in this drama again.
AhoyItsKaitlyn I think James is doing fine and improving every day. He said everything he needed to say in that one video and to engage any more would most likely do more harm than good.
I agree. He doesn't need to. I hope he understands seeing this whole j* situation that cancel culture is sometimes necessary even if it does get wayy out of hand
agree. i'm not a fan of james but i really really hope he doesn't respond. he's better off just leaving it alone.
The best he can do right now is stay quiet and enjoy all this bc revenge is best served cold.
I hope so too. He has been through enough
Are these questions to himself annoying ? Yes.
are we tired of it? yes
LMAO
YES
He acts so condescending, I feel like punching him in the throat.
exactly, i thought I was the only one who is bothered when someone forms sentences like that
The most annoying thing is when he deletes his statement when gets in scandal it’s like he thinks the backlash will go away
We stan still acting like a teenager in your thirties.
He deleted the statements and said "I'm too sensitive for this". Like what????
not only that buT HE HAS HIS NEWEST VID PINNED AND A TWEET ABOUT RELAUNCHING HIS PALETTE
same energy as tati saying "i stand by what i said" but also deleting her video lmaooooo 🙄🙄🙄🙄
and then proceeds to gaslight people telling them he’s leaving because he’s “too SENSITIVE”
I think people are starting to realize he isn’t as innocent as he pretends to be. The constant “I’m the victim” and “I’m to anxious for criticism” mantra he sings gets old eventually.
forreal hes literally in his 30s... babes...
He’s from California... what do you expect?
he thinks he special or somehting like grow up and stop complaining how you have it the worst lol.
He's also poor.
Shane: - hangs out with a bunch of problematic people and centers his online content around drama -
Also Shane: "guys! I can't deal with this! It's all my watchers their fault I have to handle all this drama! I didn't put myself into this situation at all! I don't like having to handle all this backlash for my own actions! Guys, guys, I'm too SENSITIVE for this! Don't you see that I'M THE *VICTIM* ???
GUYS IM LITERALLY SO SENSITIVE PLEASE TREAT ME LIKE A CHILD. IM 30 SOMETHING BUT STILL
I can't handle these mean beauty gurus. I mean, Jeffree is my family, but the rest of these hoes are out!
Yeah, I swear when reading his "do I need drama to get views?? NO." or whatever in his "apologies". I went back and looked at his channel. The dude made videos about Jeffree, about Jake Paul, about Eugenia Cooney, about Tana Mongeau... ALL these people are drama magnets. And the timing is interesting too: his "documentary" on Eugenia is not out of sheer desire to talk about anorexia, no no no! It happened in the midst of the drama surrounding her condition. His series on Tana is around TanaCon which was a disaster, like one of the biggest disasters of Tana's "careeer". Don't get me started on his thumbnails and click-baity titles... Dude you've built your channel on drama. Now you come and are like "I'm too sensitive foR THIS DrAMA", huh. Can't believe people can't see through this bs.
its sooo trueeee 😩😩😩
Feel bad for me! I’m just trying to help all these toxic people get away with being toxic and their toxicity is too much for me!!!😭😭😭
so tired and over Shane weaponizing his “anxiety” and him being “sensitive” against people with legitimate criticism, but doesn’t hold that same energy for James, who was a literally teenager being aggressively bullied by people twice his age, who were throwing around serious accusations about James, that turned out to be lies.
I hope James gets his justice, and I hope he’s doing okay during all of this.
Exactly he uses his ANXIETY and DEPRESSION constantly ( even though I’m pretty sure he’s self diagnosed ) as some sort of justification for being an asshole. I and many other people have issues with our mental health but don’t use it to bring down others because we’re #depressed or #bipolar
James Charles did molest another UA-camr. Go watch the video Blaire White just released.
Jonathan L: I thought you’d all learned not to blindly believe things without any evidence...
Jonathan L no Blaire white is fake
Why is jeffree “so iconic” but James is “egocentric and needs to be humbled.”
I think it’s SO funny how morals change depending on personal opinions of different people. The hypocrisy is insane.
Exactly 👏
especially when Jeffree is more destructive and more implusive
YASSSS
I feel like people call Jeffrey iconic because he’s more of an unpredictable character than James is so he’s praised more when he acts out Unless you know he’s being racist or something. While James is actually just a normal person (if you exclude the fact that he is literally famous) that people need to stop picking on as much. Personally I watch both creators but I feel like a lot of people jump on the bandwagon for canceling James Charles a lot and he gets more hate than needed, Especially when there’s literally proof against a lot of what Tati said.
It’s because Jeffree is a very aggressive person and “scary” to some people, and some people, instead of standing up to him, simply try to seek his approval and that’s why there’s such a different standard for both
I literally cannot stand how people treat Shane like he's a baby. He's a grown ass 30 year old man tf-
They think he is god at this point
a grown ass man smh
@@tnx152 exactly! It's so annoying how he's too "sensitive" for criticism yet driving a 19year old to want to end his life is his idea of a "slice of humble pie" honey SIT DOWN and ZIP your mouth shut. I seriously cannot with Shane and Jeffree. They infuriate me SO much.
who thinks being dirty and fat is a personality trait
@@linac4833 Along with being senstive and having anxiety uwu
Shane really thinks slander is a "read", as if sexual assault is "tea". He literally gaslights and strawmans people by saying "i don't remember when Jeffree Star was baptised"...i-- is that where you set the bar Shane? How about don't be racist? Don't do blackface? Don't water down the severity of sexual assault?
Shane likes justifying pedophilia so of course he's been a disgusting person
Jeffree star literally sexually assaulted a man on video in public
And the ‘jokes’ about sexually abusing animals? Idk why he’s allowed to have pets still... he’s overall a disgusting person
ok so is anyone gonna explain to me wht gaslighting and 'strawmanning' is...?
@@zee9351 Gaslighting is an emotionally abusive manipulation tactic where you make someone question their own sanity, making you look crazy for thinking/saying something when in reality it's a perfectly valid reaction. Even worse if you have a mental illness/trauma/addiction that an abuser can use against you, for example "Hmm i think you just forgot" to someone with dementia, when they actually didn't forget anything.
Strawmanning is a fallacious argument where you twist what people are saying to something ridiculous, and then just attack that ridiculous statement. For example someone says "all lives matter" in response to "black lives matter" to twist the narrative and make "black lives matter" mean that they only care about black lives and no one else, when that isn't true at all...
Shane and Jeffree act like god put them in charge of humbleness.
Ikr!!! who are they to give him “a slice of humble pie”? If they thought he was rude and egotistical than they should have just stopped talking to him instead of pushing him on the verge of suicide
Yet they need the BIGGEST slice of humble pie. Actual lunatics living in their massive mansions on top of delusional hill.
why do people treat him like a baby? they’re like “oh no shane could never do harm, he to sensitive!” no sis he’s thirty
Yes so true
I've always been confused by that. How the hell are people so easily fooled by him. Shane is fake as hell.
All u gotta do is look at his old vids tbh
ikr he's been in the game longer than some of his fans have been able to walk n talk. he knows exactly what he's doing
People treat him has if hes 12 years old smh
"I'm too sensitive for this"
No, no you're not.
Shane's literally three years older than me and acts like he's a child. I'm tired of his excuses. He's always "too poor, too fat, too sensitive". He knows how to manipulate his audience and it's tiring.
honestly. it's rly upsetting to watch his audience defend him over and over again bc he's managed to paint himself as this 'relatable guy', when no, rly, he just uses everything he can as a shield. he's not innocent, just skilled at somehow deflecting blame and keeping up with the image he's made for himself over the years. and frankly? it's a bit disgusting. he acts like a high schooler when he has to face the consequences of his act but plans nasty things like a spawn of satan (well, second spawn of satan. we all know who's first :* ). he's very two-faced and it's frustrating to see ppl fall for it.
"This series changed my life and made me gain self confidence and money but forget about the money, that doesn't matter, it made me gain self confidence!"
*Five minutes later*
"I'm too sensitive for even the tiniest constructive criticism, byeeeee wahhhhh"
the best cheese I’ve definitely been a Shane fan for a few years. And I didn’t mind his poor/fat comments because as someone with body dysmorphia myself, it’s hard to relabel yourself as skinny or well off when you’ve been one label for so long. But it got past that point and definitely came off as attention seeking and manipulative after a while. Until recently, I could find reasons to still like Shane, but after all this there’s just no excuses anymore and it saddens me that he’s like this. But I’m definitely not a fan anymore and there’s nothing he could do to change my mind. I’m not going to continue to buy into his bullshit. But now I don’t even know if I should still watch Ryland and Morgan, especially Morgan because I love her channel 😕
Exactly where was that sensitivity when he even said that he literally did black face and said the n word multiple times etc to “offend people” I can’t stand the fact that he pulls the anxiety and sensitive card.
@space._.bunnies He'll be 32 in July
Shane has been waiting for an excuse to "get out" of makeup. He never had an interest in it and couldn't find a way to publicly say he wasn't going to be making any makeup related content. So disappointed in him.
nah shane truly loved makeup since his early days
*cough blackface cough
@@acanthocephala LMAOOOOO he said lil hoodie
Amanda_Da Potato 💀😭
as soon as garrett and drew left shanes life he just went so downhill
facts😳😳
I miss drew so much 😭😭😭😪
Where IS garrett tho? I know that drew has some problems, but what happened to garrett?
eraldo coil what’s going on with drew?!
@@nawara1754 some mental health issues. Don't worry, it's not related to Shane.
ik tati was manipulated by jeffree and i feel bad for her, but she’s also a 40 year old woman who let vitamins bother her enough to try to destroy a 19 year old’s career. i don’t have respect for that.
No, the vitamins thing is just a cherry on top of the cake. JS must have been feeding and feeding and feeding her A LOT before that and when vitamin thing happened he was like you made this kid and only you can finish him
Phantom Phatima but if her claims of james being inappropriate to other people are true, it’s sad that vitamins is what made her pop off. that’s how she made the situation public. by crying on her instagram story over vitamins which led her to record her 45 minute expose video. i get she was hurt by that, but those claims (piled on top of what jeffree was saying after her video) are extremely serious and caused a 19 year old to consider taking his own life. i’m sorry but that’s pathetic. however, if jeffree’s claims are true and he really does have a voice memo of one of james’ victims and tati and shane know about this, they should all be cancelled on the spot. knowing that someone has been assaulted and not going to the police about it is gross.
Agreed. There was never a reason for her video in the first place. She should have discussed james’ supposed bad behaviour with him or
distanced herself privately.
@@user-nk8uy4rz7h I remember James' friend Zamora called her out, said something on the line of if she had something to say she should come out and say it and stop being upset
Agreed. She was a grown ass woman, and even though she may have been manipulated to believe lies, she is still fully responsible for the choice she made in publicly accusing James of sexual harassment and assault without any evidence. It's disgusting.
simple answer is *yes, Shane Dawson has lost his head.*
Yes, he is only a neck & body now 😌
Let’s be real he was problematic from the get go
And dignity.
Froufrou Deluxe honestly!
Shane: "So sick of the DRAMA!!!"
Also Shane: Considers Jeffree Star, one of the most toxic creators on the entire UA-cam platform "family"
ALSO Also Shane: Besties with Trisha Paytas and Tana Mongeau
ALSO, ALSO, ALSO Shane: PALETTE RESTOCK!!!
Big FACTS!!!! 👏👏👏❤️
Btw love the profile pic
Conspiracy theory: shane did this to make a docu series about himself
And?
eblasphamy1 they said what they needed to say. What is the “and” for?
eblasphamy1 that and doesn’t really make sense in this context
.......
👁👄👁
At this point I wouldn’t put that past him, nothing that loser does surprises me anymore tbh
s-shane’s done blackface more times than eyeshadow💀💀
😭😭 yoo
Lmaooooo that’s his past make up experience hahahaha
Yupppp
he was like i miss the old shane from 2005 or something i'm like but do WE
AND I OOP-
I feel like Shane pretends he's dumber than he is so people treat him like a child and don't hold him accountable. He's a very manipulative individual.
Yeah even as a fan I just assumed it was like his brand or something
He's just dumb
I feel like every social media influencer does this to some extent except for maybe a select few good ones I think that’s why people are so easy to forgive because there’s so many fake people on UA-cam I mean honestly me as someone who watches a lot of UA-cam is just used to it so it’s easier to get past but that doesn’t make it right anyways that’s why I feel like people don’t really Go after people like Shane or Jeffrey a lot because we’re just so used to being faked out that when we find out about it people are mad for like a month then move on to the next person that’s being fake this is such a toxic platform but people stay because it’s entertaining I also feel like a lot of people hold down on putting down creators that deserve it because it would run them off the Platform making the platform less entertaining for some people
He’s manipulative but I honestly don’t think he’s that smart lol Jefferee on the other hand is very intelligent
I don't know how he can try when all those skits he used to do way back in the day shows him to be quite the contrary. I'll give him credit, he definitely has a lot of people fooled with his uwu sensitive act but people need to wake up now
People keep glossing over the question of if Shane has ever ended someone’s career like the Bobby Burns situation never happened... 👀
👀!!!!
Who is Bobby burns?
@@Hi-ys4mc if i remember correctly it was his "hater" that he made few videos about. In last one he gave him a car but massive backlash dropped on this teen 🙄 hater for attention get rekt.
Kaito Kirusama Bobby also crashes the car and Shane’s fans attack him for it and Shane did nothing to stop the hate. Shane is a disgusting person and this is just one of the many examples of him being awful.
Amanda_Da Potato he was the kid in the hater video, he moved to LA because Shane said he had a spot on his channel as a guest every week, but then after like two weeks he fired him. Then after firing him, he barely defended him as all of his fans attacked Bobby and it was honestly awful for Bobby.
It’s like what Jo says to Dwight in the office “stop asking yourself easy questions to make yourself look like a genius” the whole time Shane answered questions in this way to try and avoid holding himself accountable
That's so true wow
I forgot about that quote but it's such a great one and you're right, it does fit what Shane is doing
dude the office has a quote for every single situation
Shreyaah Iyer haha to be honest
Shane: I hate drama
Also Shane: SHE WENT TF OFF SPILL ALL THAT TEA SIS YAAAAASSS GO TF OFF PERIODTTTT.
Shane again: but drama is annoying and I hate it.....
Oh he lives for it
I mean, clearly he hates it. 🙄
FACTS
Gabbie Hanna around here doing the same
Queen MEIKO in this comment section I feel blessed
@@kelseyhorton8514 facts
Stop treating him like he is a baby he’s 32 not three
People his age have kids and families and full time jobs. Shane has millions of dollars and refuses wipe his ass or change clothes and spends his days reveling in youtube drama.
TangoAlphaNovember he refuses to wipe _what_
32 in a month... I'm 34 and couldn't imagine acting like that...
When she yelled “PERIODTT” with her chest I felt that. How do you justify pushing a man to suicide as a “slice of humble pie” then come back after calling him out again with “I’m too sensitive” for this drama don’t attack me (the drama that he put up on his own feed). How sway... make it make sense. Like he literally makes his money off of condoning controversial people to make them “more likeable” but will tear down a young man because your bff doesn’t like him.... like bruv if you don’t take several seats!
him saying he's "sensitive" and has "huge anxiety" to stop people from trying to hold him accountable is _so_ manipulative. I would have agreed with his sentiment if he wasn't clearly trying to "clear his name".
He has more videos of him in black face then of him using his makeup palette💀
💀💀💀
Pop off
💀
Ohhhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy basically
Savage.
I'm actually living for Shane's true colours being revealed. People have been so blind myself included.
same tho, im just sitting here with my popcorn
^ THIS. im happy the blindfold is finally being lifted lmao
@@Hiighlyrated I just hope people stop forgiving him for his fuck ups. I only in the last year saw on twitter his racist skits and HOLY HELL they were bad
I used to think he was so pure, but he's just an ass
Ariana * Me looking at your profile pic, then reading words *true colours* , then remembering Marina covered in during the Froot era. Back to the topic, I don't think Shane is evil. Just immature and lately kinda bratty. He needs a slap to the face (metaphorically) and snap the fuck out of it.
I love how Shane is acting like he hates drama but sold a palette called 'controversy' with shade names relating to tea and drama.
personally i think he released the palette so that when people search "shane controvery" the palette comes up
he gets money and his past can be covered up badly
clarice omg that’s so freaking smart
@@clarice6598 If that really was the reason behind the naming of the palette, I can't help but be kind of impressed by his idea
There’s a lot of things wrong with Shane’s statement but I think the worst is the manipulative writing style. Asking easy questions to divert the attention away from the actual questions being asked is a sleazy tactic.
Yeah, he should’ve at least answered the questions and then explained on his answer. Instead of a simple “yes” or “no”.
If Shane thinks James needs a slice of humble pie then he needs to give his best friend Jeffery a whole bakery of humble pie.
Perioddttt !!!!!
That’s what I was saying
tbh from what I've heard Shane could use some of that pie too
moo moo morg - definitely needs to serve himself up a slice while he’s at it
My fat ass wants pie now
The way his apology is written is soo weird to me "beat her face" and "went full game of thrones" "damn back TO MY RANT" I talk like that when I am talking about a film I watched to a friend and get sidetracked and I am 16. I can't imagine a 30 year old talking the same way when addressing ALL THIS (his racist past, giving platform to problematic people, etc)
You can tell he talks like that in real life and probably has had his fair share of gossiping.
It feels like he was typing at the same phase of his emerging thoughts. And then went straight to posting it
Right? Like be professional! This isn’t some fun silly reality show this is real life. They nearly drove poor James to suicide. Have some respect for him for the fans for the audience.
Seeing as he wasn’t actually addressing anything and was just talking out of his ass, it makes sense
BRUH i thought i was the only one who found his apology immature 🤢
How did a man go from not ever wanting to shower or brush his teeth suddenly care about Beauty and makeup? Doesn’t add up.
How does a man go from being innocent and full of anxiety who doesn’t know what’s going on to being the “grandpa of UA-cam” and giving advice to everyone?
Full of contradictions
I don’t know about you but I think there is a lot of gaslighting in that statement to avoid blame. Especially in the part that said, “what did you expect he’s jefferee fucking star”
In other words just because he's Jeffrey Star it's okay to treat people like shit???!!!!!Get ur priorities straight Shane.
Milanee4 6 crayon yeah like Jeffree is the be all end all of they beauty gurus. When in reality he is just a rich entitled brat who thinks he’s better than everyone else cause he has is own company and all that.
people are always saying how “innocent” and “harmless” Shane is, he is a grown man in his thirties, the internet needs to stop babying him PERIOD.
PERIOD
PERIODDD
Liv It’s that cancer in his chart
We don’t baby him
PERIODT
Notice how he is downplaying the issue. Referring to the situation as “drama” and such. No, this is beyond the point of “drama”. This is not “tea”. Falsely accusing someone of being a sexual predator is a CRIME and ILLEGAL.
On top of that, Shane has discouraged REAL victims of sexual assault from exposing their perpetrators, for fear of others downplaying it by saying they're "creating drama" or "spilling tea".
melek yes!! I fully agree!! As a victim of sexual assault myself, I know firsthand how hard it is come forward. This whole trend nowadays online of people falsely accusing others of sexual assault is completely disgusting and makes it 100x harder for real victims to come out in the future.
Agreed this is illegal and James should file a low suit
GinnyTheSquid I’m sorry that happened to you, I hope you got justice.
@@GinnyTheSquid are you surprised lol? He freaking called a little girl "sexy" and tried justifying pedophilia in his podcast. Meanwhile, his co-host felt disturbed by his comments because you don't say those things and call it a joke. Nobody is laughing. When I found out about how he tried comparing foot fetishes and people having baby fetishes to j*rk off, I felt disgusted.
The only reason Jeffree is like “family” to Shane is because he made him millions of dollars... gtfoh
Im so srry but what does gftoh mean?
Someone Call My Pastor “get the f*ck outta here” 🙂
Jillian Plays Roblox thank you
Can we talk abt how when Shane was 19-20 he was doing blackface and joking abt being a pedo and a racist? And he’s bullying 19 yr old James for “having a big ego”
People need to stop treating Shane Dasani like a child, he’s a 31 year old fully grown man!
shane dasani lmaooo i can't--
People really act like Shane didn't do blackface, say the n-word, or joke about r*pe a few years ago. He really played everyone with this "I'm so sensitive, pwease protect me!" Persona he pretended to be.
Shady Dawson
DASANI i'm done
He's a man child having a mantrum.
If Shane actually changed he would stop being friends with Jeffree
He changed from being on his own minding his business to be a friend with Jeffrey
That's the change
He’s probably afraid💖 jeffy boy is so damn toxic 💖
if shane wasn’t himself, we’d be fine. but he continues to make gross jokes about children, sticks up for pedophiles and says children are just a fetish, jokes about raping women and children, has done blackface, sticks up for racist people, continues to be friends and be apologetic to and with problematic people, and the list goes on. it’s not just JS, he’s a shitty person in general that likes to hang around with shitty people.
He wouldn’t do that though, he is making hundreds of thousands of dollars in business with jeffree, and he is a shitty person himself with all of the scandals he has had over the years, he’s not as innocent or the “therapist” of UA-cam that his stans think he is.
You can love a friend without having to love everything they do. Nobody's perfect and I think they've both made bad mistakes and they're both a bit naive and jaded by their own egos but should they be cancelled or cut their friends out if their life? No. Nothing that has happened is really that bad in the grand scheme of things. The drama aspect of it all just blows it all out of proportion and makes it seem like the end of the world.
“We’re 20. That would be like us bullying a five year old.” ... “I mean I do hate kids” lmfaooo
Shane Dawson has done blackface more than he’s put on eyeshadow
I just kinda snorted at this, but this is a factual statement.
Isi i guess lmaooo fr the sad part is that its true
Shane disguising bullying as "a humble pie" reminds me of people who say that emotional abuse ~is fine~ because it BuILdS ChARaCtER... honestly disgusting
I’m glad Shane and Jeffree are out here deciding that they’re humbling vigilantes and choosing who needs to have their life destroyed
Grown adults "humbling" a 19 yo by (falsely) accusing him of being a predator 🥰 so cute
Lol what annoys me even more is the audacity they had to act like the morality authority and decide who needs humbling ..... fucking clowns
thousand like!
You did not stutter...not once. Shane was NEVER apart of the beauty community, he just wanted his coin and dipped. 😒
it was SO clear to me. after the first fucking segment in that series i knew. i remember making comment after comment on those videos warning people not the buy his product because shane was just manipulating his viewers and what happened??? No one listened. now this shit is coming out and im really hoping now FINALLY people will see how disgusting Shane is (jeffree too but we been knew that one)
Hey! I saw a post that said saying "they did not stutter" can be ableist to those who do have speech impediments, I completely understand what you were saying and I’m sure you didn’t mean any offense, just wanted to make you and others aware😊
Can’t we all just agree to stop supporting bad content creators? Trisha, Shane, Jeffrey, the ace family and so many more! I don’t understand where the blind support comes from lmao
Also tana! Her fans still support her even after all the shit that happened in tanacon lmao (and her wedding with Jake paul, some people even paid 50 dollars for watch it like STOP)
Kids don’t care what their idols due. 🤔
Kids won't,
honestly, poor James. The fact that we watched people in their mid-thirties bully a 19 year old boy...
the fact that he feels the need to hold James accountable for nothing yet gives a pass to Jeffree on everything shows the double standard. Crazy that he seems to think Jeffree doesn't need a slice of "humble pie". Shane has shown his true colors and intentions imo
Yeah, James needed that big slice of humble pie, he dared promoting other gummy bears than Tati's! But oh, Jeffree is a literal creep, a racist who promoted n*zi merch, and a 30yo abusing his position as an influencer to harrass and bully people, but "don't hold him to such hIGH STANDARDS"
Well said 👏
Nora Girl what do you mean dared? JC is an influencer, his job is to get brand deals. it doesnt matter if tati is his friend or not james has an onligation as an influencer to get sponsorships. that’s like saying that just because you love fashion nova you can’t shop at forever 21
@@naomitatu4669 Yeah... I was... using sarcasm.
I think most of us didn't do black face 10 years ago, I wish people would stop acting like we all have a past like that?? why is it really that forgivable??
And he was in his 20s
I'm am not from America, so maybe that's why I think like this, but: I am sick of people making such a huge deal about n word and black face. Like, it is gross and not in any means ok, but there are worse things people do that don't get talked about much cause everyone is concentrated about a word, it seems like it's worse to say a word than to actually act racist or something not even having to do with race, but still horrible
Garry is a snail yeah if your not from the US you won’t comprehend how complex and ingrained racism is in our country
Garry is a snail as someone not from America either I think you are misinformed and lack the full understanding of what black face is. It is never ok or not a big deal. Not bashing you or anything. You’re comment justice strikes me as not fully educated on the subject
Anjealous Anaconda you don’t even have to be American to have an understanding on the racism and history behind black face and the n word. Garry is a snail is clearly ignorant on the subject and trying to downplay the issue. Saying the n word and doing blackface are not things normal non racist people do on the regular. This is not normal behaviour. If I see someone comfortably doing black face and saying the n word, I wouldn’t want to know wtf they do behind closed doors.
Shane sounds like a detective that is interrogating himself
Shane definitely loves drama. It makes him feel like one of the cool kids
I hate it that when Jeffrey does something problematic Shane’s says’ “that’s just Jeffrey what do you expect”, but when James has accusations held against that were FALSE Shane says’ “he needs a slice of humble pie”.
Jafar's bar for being a decent human being is so low it's literally lying on the ground, yet he still manages to dig a tunnel just so he can crawl under it
@@radmila_1111 this is such a great interpretation of jeffree 🤣
At the time I hated that the word “predator” was being thrown around. You can’t just do that. That’s disgusting especially with no evidence. Did James seem like a snotty kid. Yeah but nothing bad it’s pretty normal for his age. But J* has been in PROVEN scandals like associating with a REAL PREDATOR
Radmila Filippova omg Jafar so true 😂😂😂
Pizza Crys I’m tired of this thing! Jeffree said he didn’t witness a crime and he didn’t!! Does nobody knows how the justice system works?! What j saw was a lil girl walking into that predator’s hotel room but the predator can just dismiss it saying she wanted to use the bathroom or needed to call someone or something if j kept saying he’s a predator the guy will sue him and will get a lot of money now would you want that?! Gosh can’t believe how bias som ppl can be
Shane doesn’t realize JS is the one keeping the subject alive, he talked about it on the mom’s basement, and everything was “Shane and I”. James and Tati haven’t spoke about it
FACTS
That's what he gets for attaching himself to J*
Not just mom’s basement.. if you think abt it.. James and Tati haven’t said a word since it happened but Jeffree can’t keep their names out of his mouth throughout this entire time 🙄 he did this with the first dramageddon too! Or anyone he’s ever been in a feud with! Like the other party usually just moves on with their lives and just kinda removes him, and Jeffree can’t handle it! Huda, Jackie aina, kardashians/Jenner, James, manny, etc etc.. they’re all like “my name’s still on your lips?! MOVE ON DUDE!” 🙄
@ Dafuq?! ..It’s a way for him to keep it all under control. He benefitted from the drama so he was constantly defending his actions despite him coming out on top . Where he goes wrong is he won’t leave it alone until it forces the other people around him to bring it up again because they have finally had enough of him manipulating everyone and want the truth to be said. That’s exactly how all this started, he was inappropriate around past friends who actually have integrity and they finally outed him once they see how much of a liar and manipulator he is and that the public opinion of him has began to shift when his past with BOTDF and the BLM movement gave his “black friends” the courage to speak about their token treatment from Jeffree
Shane's out here being a cute little snowflake, isn't he
He’s a manipulative, racist, opportunistic asshole that doesn’t care about who he hurts as long as he makes a buck
shane dawson has worn blackface more than actual makeup
And Shane's fans be like: oh he's just a babyy🥺 no he's a grown ass adult who pees in the bottle
Literally,people still attack Emma chamberlain for joking about showering but when Shane say he doesn’t shower,brush he’s teeth or has clean clothes it’s considered “QuiRkY”
I literally can’t get over the peeing in a bottle thing??? Wtf would you need to do that if you’re physically capable of walking yourself to a bathroom
saartil rey they must be thinking of the baby on google images he tried to use to justify ped**hilia on that podcast
chadthelimabean yess why can’t he just get up and use the bathroom
Paris Lopez THANK YOU OMG
Honestly, James doesn’t need to respond. He was dragged through the mud and now he’s thriving, let him be Luke (no offence)
Yeah I don’t think people are fully considering how traumatic the situation was for james. His name will always be associated with the word predator even after disproving everything in his no more lies video. He’s doing better than ever and staying above this disgusting “drama”, so good for him.
lily yeah people will dismiss it because it’s online but, it’s honestly really harsh a lot of the things people were saying about a 19 year old kid...
Shane didn't write this on his own.
Who do we know that says things like "don't get it twisted", "beat her face to the gods", "read him for filth"?
This is Jeffree. He either wrote this statement, or prompted Shane while he was writing it.
Jeffree is a businessman. Doesn’t matter how little I like him, but his statements and apologies actually have some brain to it, he at least tries to come across as if he really „was in a bad place and grew out of it to be a better person“ yadayada. I‘m pretty damn sure this wasn’t jeffree. Maybe it’s just shocking to a lot of people to see how shane really is. I mean just look back at that one episode of the series he did with jeffree, when he was speaking up about how people accused him of doing nasty things to his cat.... his reaction was as aggressive and stupid as this statement. To me, this whole tweet sounds 100% like shane.
I think since shane spends so much time with Jeffree he probably started speaking like him or using his lingo, this sounds exactly like shane to me.
@@xvv9964 I couldn't agree more. 👏👏👏👏
didn’t kat von d say Jeffree was an awful person and everyone thought she was lying, sometimes anti-vaxxers do have the right info
Absolutely nobody:
Shane Dawson writing down every argument he's had with his shampoo bottles abt this since last yr:
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 True
To be fair I spend a lot of my shower time ranting to my shampoo bottle.
@@charliefawn2519 cool. I do too
His shampoo bottles: 👏👏👏👏 now he'll leave us alone
@@melisacaceres8740 lmaoo
why do people act like he’s just a misinformed kid who messed up every time he does something awful and wrong and bad? like sir the man is 31
wow i really thought he was older than that. he really needs to start taking better care of himself and appreciating his privileged lifestyle
Maybe because people still remember him as a teenager? Kinda like when you meet an old friend, you might act differently. He acts like a teenager still tbh....
exactly. my 15 year old sister is more ""woke"""" than his 30 year old ass
Angela M doesn’t change anything..
Shane literally just made his coin and dipped i-
luke out here being allergic to shane and jeffree
I think I may have that allergy too and I'm honestly fine with having it
“The series with Jeffree Star changed me as a person” Well yeah, it made your pockets heavier, but that’s it.
Huffle Puffle Changed that bank account, no doubt.
And turned him into Jeffree more
Jefferee is a bad influence on Shane
not to mention- he consistently uses his anxiety as a shield for his bad behaviour (anxiety is real and is acceptable but once you’re out here using it to justify your bad behaviour, it’s not about your anxiety anymore it’s a shield and is being used to guilt trip your audience into feeling bad for you). he is 30 something, he needs to own up to his actions and recognize that we’re not just gonna let things like this slide anymore. he purposefully sees people who are problematic and troublesome and actively seeks out their harmful behaviour so he has good content, and when he gets caught he wants to talk his way out of it and go ‘ no no no, im just watching‘ like.. ok and? it’s SICK! you’re still actively pursuing people who will negatively impact your career and you refuse to acknowledge that. he is completely blind to his own actions and i genuinely believe he has no clue on how to be self aware. i can’t sit here and listen to him constantly cry out wolf when he’s the one who’s choosing to sit in the room with them. bye shane.
beautifully put. i also suffer from anxiety and that makes me a better, more empathetic person if anything.
Shane gets away with so much of this just because he's a man. When women use their anxiety even as a valid excuse they get torn apart. It also seems like on the "palatable" disorders like depression and anxiety work on people. Things like borderline, bipolar, adhd, autism, etc don't get to be used as excuses by people who have them bc most people don't have any sympathy for them.
@@carlyhoffman5318 I have it to and i never used it as a shield. But he cant stop using it.
@@hannahrichey8697 >things like borderline, bipolar, adhd, autism, etc don't get to be used as excuses by people who have them bc most people don't have any sympathy for them.
EXACTLYYY. ugh your mind is so powerful. when it's bipolar it's "oh they're crazy." if it's adhd or autism it's "they're weird, retarded, lazy." if it's borderline it's "they're scary, sociopathic, insane." but when it's depression or anxiety it's UWUUUUU AW POOR LIL BEAN THAT'S OKAY!!!!! PRACTICE SELF CARE WE LOVE YOU!!!!!
these things are explanations, not excuses. you can't hide behind your anxiety or depression to get away with shit. you can say "hey, i'm sorry i lashed out, i was having a bad day but i shouldn't have taken it out on you, can i make it up to you?" not "it's not my fault >_< i am depressed"
i don't think shane has anxiety, everybody's using the mental health card to get them outside of trouble, like trisha and jeffree
"You're not a drag queen on RPDR" that one is so true for SO MANY people nowadays. With all that clicking and clacking like... you haven't been talking like that two months ago why change your speech patterns all of the sudden.
If James needs a piece of humble pie then Shane and Jeffrey need a whole goddamn bakery
I still don't get how Shane isn't cancelled yet. Like cancel culture at this point is cancelling everyone but the problematic people
Absolutely no stuttering in this statement
Exactly they cancel EVERYONEEE but they still support Jeffree Shane and 69 like what??
The girl in the background screaming PERIOD is a whole ass mood and the entire audience right now watching this UA-cam video
Shane was problematic before most had the chance.
Shane gives me the vibes of a friend that inserts themselves in a fight they instigated between friends while acting like an innocent mediator.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Shane at 19: was racist and did black face
James at 19: a bit egotistical
Jeffree at 19: called black women monkeys and had Lipstick Nazi
Shane and Jeffree: Lets call him a sexual predator because he MUST be stopped!
THIS!! their hypocrisy and immaturity is so obvious
YES!!! This needs more attention!!
what's sad is the jokes Shane has made are FAR worse than anything James Charles has said. These people really are hypocritical and lack empathy for others.
the fact that jeffree has literally assaulted at least one man on video before..when he was older than james
@@Elise-pt9rf yes I remember the worst thing James tweeted was "ebola" when he was going to Africa or sum shit, but he was like 17 so wtf. Idc abt James Charles but its rly disturbing tht these old ass fucken grown men keep going after a boy.
Is Shane forgetting Bobby Burns?? He basically ruined his career.
Ikr..
True
There’s a creator called Primink that did a really great video on the whole Shane/Bobby Burns fiasco. It’s really great and I totally recommend checking it out.
very disappointing
@@littleboxxes YES!! Primink's vid is great!! I second that
"Do I need that kind of drama to make a good series?" literally his docuseries (Tana, Jake Paul, Jeffree pt. 1 and 2) are based on the drama that surrounds them... so yes, he needs tea to sell.
Jeffree hates himself, you can tell by the way he treats others. It’s sad really.
"james was 19, jeffree was 30, shane was 30, tati was 40 or something i dont know" LMFAOOOO
"you gave me such a fright" LMFAOOSDFJKAONFANF@//; LUKE I LOVE U
That part fucking sent me 😂 😂 😂
I swear he only deleted those tweets because he didn't get the "oh poor Shane" comments he figured he would. We're all finally starting to see his true colours.
Omg yes. This comment.
I am so glad people are waking up
Yeah i just unsubscribed from him!! Best decision i did in my 18 years on this planet!!😁😂😁
'oh i see your true colours shining through'
sorry, i was listening to this song earlier, and i saw your comment and couldn't help my self.
he’s so stupid
Why tf did I buy this pallet, it doesn’t even work on my skin tone like. Was I brainwashed?😭 I literally wasted my money on a pallet made by racists
Shane: I'm done with the drama
Also Shane: let me shade James in my "I'm done with drama" statement 🙄
i’m not a fan of any of these creators, but the people who defend jeffrey and shane saying they’ve “changed and apologized”, “you don’t know what happens off camera” and “mental health is more important” clearly didn’t have that same mentality when being led on to go after james.. hypocrisy at its finest
That's true. Periodt
Yeah that whole community of youtubers is just sketc
@@caughtcrjfever2107 finally someone said it, people worship other people who are just living their lives. They arent gods, theyre just regular people.
peopel who also defend James have no proof he did not sexually assult anyone...and the fact he is not caliming defamation is a proof enough that he is not innocent. Legally it d be insane for him to not file action if he truly was innocent.
Kunoichi4ever4 Kunoichi4ever4 okay I have a statement for you: Jeffree is very attracted to goats
Do you have any proof that he isn’t? Does he have any proof that he isn’t? No? No. Because you cannot prove the non-existence of something. Unless you have an ongoing recording of every moment of his life that we can verify is real?
And James probably isn’t filing for defamation because he wants to move on with his life. But I know it may be hard to understand that concept if you’re the type of person who feeds off of drama...
Also, it’s spelled “people”
Oh and I noticed you liked your own comment too. Don’t think I wouldn’t
It’s so annoying how Shane keeps deleting what he’s saying, just say what you think and leave it alone, don’t keep deleting and reposting!
And he has such a snotty attitude about it! Like "Ugh I'm done. I'm suuurrreeee you can find my statement reposted somewhere" 🙄🙄
It‘s screenshotted about 1million times so why even delete 😂
Jojo Cookie exactly!
Jojo Cookie i don’t think that he’s familiar with concept of the digital footprint...
His excuse for everything is anxiety and depression 🙄🙄🙄
“But back in 2005 you were doing blackface, is blackface giving you joy?” THISSS👏🏽👏🏽 the créme de la crème 👌🏽of your always enjoyable clapbacks
No one:
Not even the plants behine Luke:
Luke’s Roommate: PERIODDDDDDDDDDDDTTTTTTTTT
PERRRRIODT
I was just listening to the video and it scared me so much 😂
Im so sick of shane dawson hiding behind his anxiety. He is a 33yr old millionaire and a bottle of xanax is like $50.
Its way less with insurance hahaha
rebeccanater XANAX LMFAOOO
Yeah I mean I don’t think suggesting one of the most dangerous prescription drugs like Xanax is a solution. He also does have a Xanax prescription. His video when him Garrett, Andrew, Morgan, and ryland go on a super nice plane is iconic because in that video he takes a Xanax for the first time and seeing him high was my sooo hilarious. But as someone with anxiety and who has taken Xanax, it only made my life harder. It’s super addictive & Shane doesn’t do drugs like I don’t even think he smokes pot when jeffree is constantly smoking so the fact that he has a prescription and doesn’t abuse it is commendable. Idk how I wouldn’t fall off the deep end of my anxiety and into addiction if all of these people were coming for me. Not saying Shane is right just saying Xanax isn’t right either.
I dont have insurance, i use the GoodRX app. Its free. 90 , 1mg xanax = $11.00
lmfaoo bye
I love how james Charles needed a piece of humble pie but Jedediah Starburst and Shame Doorknob don't
LMAOOOOOO BRUH I NEEDED THAT LAUGH TY
SHAME DOORKNOB LMFAOOODISUHSGGFUV
Jedediah Starburst TOOK ME OUT OF THIS PLANE OF EXISTENCE 😆😭😂
SHAME DOORKNOB IM SOBBING
My tongue twisted reading jedediah. But where did y'all get that name tho? I always read that everywhere 😂
I don’t think James should respond, is just a waste of time on meaningless drama....people wanna keep stirring the mud tryna find more gold to exploit and that’s just sad.
"read him to filth" you mean make allegations that later on turned hella serious without proof that destroyed the life of a yes problematic 19 year old that drove him to dangerous thoughts? shane literally calls tea something that is this serious and thinks everyone is problematic when hes the problematic person himself. gtfoh
It’s honestly so disappointing that Shane would risk his whole career for jeffree when we all know damn well Jeffree would throw shane away in a heartbeat
Shane risked his whole career because he liked the idea of the beauty world and Jeffree, he wanted the money and the clout that came from becoming an influencer and then realized how fun it is to target people after that. I'm disappointed more in the fact that Shane showed his darkside than him risking his career for a chance at getting some of that JS money
Jeffree didn't lose a piece of his soul, he just placed it in a horcrux.
That's assuming he has a soul in the first place lol
Voldebitch
One horcrux probably is his palette with Shane lol
Omg😂😂
best comment!!
I love that you include that part with Holly, because even though it is a serious topic it made it feel like more chill. And also is good to hear another perspective. Keep up with the fire content 🔥
This is why I’m subscribed....go off Luke! I’m fed up with everyone sucking up Shane’s ass....he’s a adult he knows what he is doing and should be held responsible for his actions. He’s more manipulative that Jeffree, I think people have forgotten his shady past...perhaps because most of his audience now are too young that they weren’t around for his crap the first time around.
Edit: I love how Shane will do, say or even involve himself in drama and instead of owning his actions when people pull him up on it, he’ll pull out the “ooh I’m fragile, I have mental health issues...my emotions” hoping that his stans will protect him and that this will be enough of an excuse to get away with it. Well I’m fed up with it, I’m a person who suffers from a mental health disorder and I take responsibility for my own actions. It angers me when people use it as an excuse to fall back on.....your depression or anxiety didn’t make you do what you did! You helped a known problematic and shady character attempt to tear down and destroy the career of a 19 year old kid (who isn’t a saint either but not the point) just because he was jealous that he was getting more popular than himself.
Seriously that is beyond childish, You are a grown ass adult....take responsibility or don’t involve yourself.
"guys stop bullying him hes sEnsTiVe" lmao he started his career on blackface he ain't that innocent. I'm surprised people are finding out about this now. He should've been exposed years ago...
Honestly, Shane has lost me as a fan due to all this. His "apology" was basically just him gaslighting his fans and playing the victim. He might act like a child in his videos but he's a grown man who needs to start taking accountability for his actions. Not discounting his mental health issues but you can't use that as an excuse to be complicit in a situation like this and avoid accountability. I think this has been a long time coming and I'm happy the truth is finally coming out. People deserve to know the true nature of what - and who - they're supporting.
I totally agree. People who can't own up to their actions and play the I have mental health issues card just pisses me off so much. I get if you actually have mental health issues, but accusing someone of sexual assault and saying that it's ok because of your mental health issues is just so wrong in so many ways.
He lost me too :(( It disappointing to see someone who you’ve always felt in your heart was a genuinely nice and sincere human, go make an absolute clown of himself in one single post. The things he said were atrocious, and the fact he hit the send button thinking it was a good statement baffles me. Scary how much of a mask people can wear on the Internet. I think the part that sickened me the most is that Shane’s mom made a tweet trying to clearly make us feel bad about holding him accountable. The manipulation tactics are unreal.
Yeah, I used to have a friend who would blame everything on her mental health and would use it as a crutch for everything she did and would expect the rest of us in the friend group to just shrug everything off and accept it as an excuse for her behavior, it got really bad and I had to cut off our friendship which hurt but it wasn’t a good relationship anymore
the fact that shane and jeffee are still obsessing over this after an entire YEAR while james has moved on, found better friends and his buying his own house really says something about them 😳
It's really making them look quite foolish.
“YOU GAVE ME SUCH A FREIGHT” I’ve never heard some one actually use that phrase wtf I’m trippen out
Shane Dawson is a walking contradiction, he says that he doesn’t like drama yet he is friends with such problematic people like Jeffrey Star, Trisha, Tana and Jake AND he also used drama to draw attention towards his series . Shane thinks that anxiety is an excuse to not take responsibility for his actions, he isn’t a good person . he should have been dropped after he did blackface, i don’t care what the fuck anyone says that shit was messed up and if you enjoyed it or found it entertaining . you were/are apart of the problem . saying racial slurs as if they are jokes . making really weird “jokes” where he sexualises his own pets, i understand dark humor but nah, we don’t do shit like sexualising animals or children . do you guys ever wonder why Garret just randomly distance himself from them ? ever since Jeffrey and Shane became friends . Trisha called Shane crying because of something Jeffrey said and did, she told him that a close friend told her about what he said but instead of being supportive and standing up for her . he said “why did he tell you that ?” instead of saying “why would Jeffrey even say that ?” Shane has been bodyshamed before, many times so i would have expected that he would atleast be empathetic and i don’t know, BE A GOOD FRIEND . Shane is a minion, he is a fucking sheep and that’s weak . Shane was so mean towards James Charles, bullied him to the point he considered suicide . SHANE IS 30, and he still doesn’t take responsibility for his actions . “i’m done talking about this, i don’t want this energy in my life .” you brought this energy into your life, you aren’t done talking about this until you tell the truth . Shane, Jeffrey and Tati could have been charge for manslaughter if James did commit suicide because there was no evidence at all ! what they did was malicious ! James is so sweet for not pressing charges at them, Tati was dragging James mom for standing up for her own son, Jeffrey bullied James little brother . YOU NEVER INVOLVE FAMILY, Shane is manipulative, a liar and a racist . CANCEL JEFFREY, SHANE AND TATI THE SAME WAY YOU DID WITH JAMES ! funny things is how much evidence they have on all of them but James got canceled with none . fuck y’all for selective canceling . stop giving problematic people platforms, you just giving power to toxic people who will abuse it .
damn go off 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 couldn’t have said it better myself
You can have anxiety and still be accountable for your actions!!!
well said !! 🙌🙌
Best comment 👌
THIS. Perfectly said
Do i hate when people talk/write like this? Yes.
Do I agree with you that the rhetorical question format is beyond annoying? Yes.
Did I write like this in the 5th grade to hit the word limit on my essays? Yes.
THANK YOU it is incredibly annoying and difficult to follow. It's 100% a crutch for bad writers.
Did I lose brain cells while reading his "apology"? Yes
but i still don't understand what James did that deserves a "slice of humble pie"??
I know!! That part confused me. If anyone needs a slice of humble pie, it’s Shane and Jeffery. In fact, they need the entire freaking bakery.