My biggest issue with Demeech is his opinions aren't anything new. He basically just repeats what everyone else has said a million times already without bringing anything new to the table.
"I said Nintendo was as bad as EA and now people are claiming I think Nintendo is as bad as EA even though i didn't mean it like that! this is clearly the peoples fault and not mine."
What's funnier is that he never abandoned Twitter/X... He still goes there to see what peple say about him, or to grab someone's opinion on something he doesn't like to exagerate it, and make fun of it on Videos or YT Posts, I even remember he openly said that he did search his own name once to see what people said about him after quitting Twitter at the time...
If there's one thing I've learned from this god forsaken month, it's that wording is extremely important when trying to get your point across. I've heard the notion a couple times that as long as what you're saying is true, it doesn't matter how you say it. While I did see the merit in that idea in the past, I wholeheartedly could not agree less with it now. If your goal is to persuade people of your stance, you need to watch your wording. One of, if not Demeech's biggest problem is that he cannot convey what he thinks properly. Nintendo being the same as EA is a perfect example. I don't know how the original tweet was worded but if I was to make a guess, it would likely be that he said Nintendo was just as scummy as EA while not specifying that it was from a business perspective. If I am right, that is a terribly worded opinion that sounds very hyperbolic and unspecific considering how bad EA is compared to Nintendo in so many ways. The Internet isn't going to try and disect what you said, especially if you're a decently sized public figure so you have to make sure that if you want to get a point across to do it in a much more paletteble (I think I just made that word up) manner. The ICarly analogy doesn't work because where Freddie would just say "I'm just not into Fred", Demeech will actively stir shit with stuff like the Mario Kart 8 meme or blow nitpicks out of proportion and expect a savory response. You can be right and still be an a-hole and usually when making a persuasive argument, being an a-hole should generally be avoided. I am glad he left Twitter...or at least I would say that if his UA-cam still felt like the Twitter Response Zone.
Fun fact: After this video he continued to make community post after community post detailing Twitter drama and continued to use Twitter posts in his videos. He deleted his account but he didn't actually leave.
id argue that's even worse cause reddit is basically a cult where one slightly controversial opinion will get you harrassed and insulted by everyone. with twitter at least there's still people who will be out to defend your opinions even if it may or may not be that many
Also about the 3D All Stars thing, I know this is just a theory but I think the main reason why it was only available for a limited time was because of Super Mario 64 and to the extent the N64 coming in an NSO update. (Since they released very close to each other) It would be pretty bad advertising to ad a game that is on you service when you just released a physical version of said game around the same time. Because it would give people less of a reason to be subscribed to the service. I’m not trying to defend Nintendo hear. I’m just trying to explain why I think this happened.
I think what is fundamentally flawed with Demeech’s mario kart tweet is that he makes a serious criticism to a group of people with a joke post because it’s obvious that the images are a joke. He could have easily just said on the post: “Imagine if the next Mario kart uses the free updates method of the mario sports games”. It would have transmitted that message far better because one, it would’ve been obviously a joke and two, people would’ve reflected on the terrible free updates to a game with a lack of content method and made people not want it on a more popular and well-liked game that is Mario kart. He had a solid take but Demeech just had to attack some people.
Can I be cringe for a sec and mention a cancelled UA-camr in regards of my point of the whole "unfinished vs incomplete" thing? When The Completionist rates the games he reviews, "Finish It" and "Complete It" are regarded as two different ratings: "Finish It" means that he recommends players to play the game up until beating the final boss, whilst "Complete It" means he recommends players to play, beat and collect EVERYTHING the game has to offer, until they're done 100%. This is an example of how people view the terms "finishing" and "completing" a game, REGARDLESS of what the thesaurus says about these two terms. And guess what, this can also be applied to game development: people would see "finishing" development on a game as releasing the game with the absolute minimum requirements (like how beating the final boss in the main story is the absolute minimum requirement), which in this case means to include a presentable amount of characters and levels, and make sure the game runs well without bugging out; whereas they see "completing" development include _everything else_ they want to add to a game content-wise. I'm pretty sure this is how it is, because when I see people say a game is "unfinished", they typically refer to games that clearly have a bunch of bugs, like Cyberpunk 2077 at launch, or Sonic 06 in general, and NEVER to game _Demeech_ calls "unfinished", which run perfectly fine but simply lack things to do, such as Nintendo Switch Sports. Mostly though, I am really annoyed that Demeech will just lump the Nintendo Switch Sportses and the Mario Golf Super Rushes into the exact same category as the Cyberpunk 2077s and the Sonic 06s, and call ALL of them "unfinished", even though one side is clearly "unfinished" for COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONS than the other. And I'm EVEN MORE ANNOYED that, instead of realizing that some might find using the same terminology for _two completely different bad things_ might be just a _little_ bit confusing or annoying, Demeech will just yell at anyone pointing this out "erm ackshually 'unfinished' and 'incomplete' mean the same thing, read a dictionary ☝️🤓", but with a temper that is _ten times worse than Mr. Enter's in the early-to-mid 2010s._ Like, Demeech, were you annoyed at The Completionist too that he regards "Finish It" and "Complete It" as different-meaning terms, too, back before he was revealed to be a scammer? Also, NO, Demeech, NO ONE IS DEFENDING THESE GAMES WHEN SAYING THAT. They are NOT saying to use a different term to say that the incomplete games are actually good or something. They're simply just as annoyed as me that you lump these "games that lack in content" in the same "unfinished games" category as the glitchy messes that do need more time in the oven. That's like saying calling apples and pears the same thing JUST because they're both pome fruits. ...I might copypaste this rant for when the reaction to one of the Nintendo Switch Sports videos of his is out in the public, as he makes a similar remark to "erm read the dictionary, incomplete and unfinished mean the same thing ☝️🤓", as a segue to "DEMEECH'S ULTIMATE FURY" to boot (as if that's more rage-inducing than anything Nintendo did), right in the same stream as me stating why I prefer calling these games "incomplete". I was already warned about this trap card too by other stream watchers, so I at least could brace myself.
While I do believe that it is a shame how negativity gains a lot more traction compared to positivity nowadays, especially on sites like Twitter and Reddit. It is our responsibility to try to filter out the hate and avoid engaging with people who are purely attention seekers, solely trying to get a rise from you. It'll only lead to wasted time trying to debate with them. Unless it's for a quick laugh. Doubling down is just funny in the right moment
it does make me sad you get negative criticism bc youre an amazing youtuber and i know youll get the recognition you deserve!!!!! youre such a hard worker its very admirable
Funny How Demmech quit Twitter and then went to Reddit and then treat it like twitter for the most part.(And UA-cam community tab as well) Also some of the point that Demmech were hard to agree since he didn't show any tweet that make his point on people are bully and Nintendo is like is EA level of scum. Which made me that if he didn't show tweet here but why later on his Pokémon gen 9 video when he show a twert of someone just enjoy the game. And even use strawmen and invalided that person opinion solely because that person have an amine pfp.
Nintendo has kept prices the same even with the drop of the cost of software when it’s digital.. the discounts they do offer could be better and you don’t own the software.. Demeech is making some valid points.. love him or hate him at least you know what you getting
Hey if you need any more ideas for #demeechdecember ever since September there's been these wierd clones of him popping up varying from simple color swaps to some genuine deep cut references if you're a fan of the channel and some even have some videos uploaded so I guess you're in for a treat
People didn’t bully or mock Arlo, he’s just notoriously not a fan of Kirby so his Star Allies video was quite in bad faith. People were calling him out for bad arguments for his opinion and poor criticism of the game. I find it telling Demeech doesn’t give examples of this supposed “harassment”.
32:35 Mario Kart Tour And technically you could also hold Nintendo responsible for any third party game that has them because Nintendo "regulates" their platform and probably get a cut of the revenue
To be fair those are just on mobile (and even then it seems like they are shutting down all there mobile games sides Pokémon because the ownership of that franchise is weird) but still good point
6:03 I still think my mom blames the fact that me and my sister rewatched the fred movies (mainly the first and third ones) so many times that it ruined our senses of humor but idc they are classics
We love Demeech December! By the way, I tried to join the Discord server, but the link was expired. Does anyone have a working link to join the Discord?
@@LleytonSPD Bruh, Demeech is literally the opinion basher when it comes to Mario Sports and Pokémon games, I don’t think he deserves to have his opinion respected if he’s not gonna respect anyone else’s.
@@Rediscool9 I agree with you on many levels here, i mean i have a ton of experience with “opinion bullies” since i adore Xenoblade. However, best thing to do is just ignore their opinion bashing or try to get it fixed
@@Folutu It's because Demeech thinks "this game gets free updates" = "this game is unfinished at launch" no matter what, and thus cringes every time a game is announced to get free updates. -Even though ARMS and Splatoon got free updates too and I've never seen him complain about THOSE games...-
But MOOOM the Deemech-Sir Musty situation is CRAZY, don't you understand
What if I told you I have unironically said a variation of this sentence the other day
@@F7jinAnd how did that go
@@F7jinThere's no way 🤣.
Complains about Twitter users.
Acts like a Twitter user.
Refuses to elaborate.
Leaves.
Holy shit is that the GOAT?
How will Demeech ever make a point ever again without talking about random people’s Twitter posts? The west has truly fallen
The demeech empire has fallen
YOU AGAIN
My biggest issue with Demeech is his opinions aren't anything new. He basically just repeats what everyone else has said a million times already without bringing anything new to the table.
"I said Nintendo was as bad as EA and now people are claiming I think Nintendo is as bad as EA even though i didn't mean it like that! this is clearly the peoples fault and not mine."
What's funnier is that he never abandoned Twitter/X... He still goes there to see what peple say about him, or to grab someone's opinion on something he doesn't like to exagerate it, and make fun of it on Videos or YT Posts, I even remember he openly said that he did search his own name once to see what people said about him after quitting Twitter at the time...
“Twitter is a hellsite”
*”My Brother in Christ You Follow the Accounts!”*
"You choose the buttons you press."
fred vs demeech epic rap battles of history
I would like to see that
Ok but who would win tho, imo probably fred
if demeech lost he would get mad and make videos on how bad fred is
Demeech crashing out when someone has a genuine different opinion than him
If there's one thing I've learned from this god forsaken month, it's that wording is extremely important when trying to get your point across. I've heard the notion a couple times that as long as what you're saying is true, it doesn't matter how you say it. While I did see the merit in that idea in the past, I wholeheartedly could not agree less with it now. If your goal is to persuade people of your stance, you need to watch your wording. One of, if not Demeech's biggest problem is that he cannot convey what he thinks properly. Nintendo being the same as EA is a perfect example. I don't know how the original tweet was worded but if I was to make a guess, it would likely be that he said Nintendo was just as scummy as EA while not specifying that it was from a business perspective. If I am right, that is a terribly worded opinion that sounds very hyperbolic and unspecific considering how bad EA is compared to Nintendo in so many ways. The Internet isn't going to try and disect what you said, especially if you're a decently sized public figure so you have to make sure that if you want to get a point across to do it in a much more paletteble (I think I just made that word up) manner. The ICarly analogy doesn't work because where Freddie would just say "I'm just not into Fred", Demeech will actively stir shit with stuff like the Mario Kart 8 meme or blow nitpicks out of proportion and expect a savory response. You can be right and still be an a-hole and usually when making a persuasive argument, being an a-hole should generally be avoided.
I am glad he left Twitter...or at least I would say that if his UA-cam still felt like the Twitter Response Zone.
I feel bad for Demeech bro just is the way he is 😢 W reaction from the GOAT as usual!
Fun fact: After this video he continued to make community post after community post detailing Twitter drama and continued to use Twitter posts in his videos. He deleted his account but he didn't actually leave.
He basically used UA-cam community posts as a Twitter replacement.
@@Rediscool9He even embraces it
I'm surprised Demeech hasn't left Reddit, which is just as bad.
id argue that's even worse cause reddit is basically a cult where one slightly controversial opinion will get you harrassed and insulted by everyone. with twitter at least there's still people who will be out to defend your opinions even if it may or may not be that many
@SuperKoopBrosOfficial don't forget Redditors will harrass you if you play Fortnite.
@SuperKoopBrosOfficialWe used to get mad at people for using emojis.... Thank frick I left for better pastures
Also about the 3D All Stars thing, I know this is just a theory but I think the main reason why it was only available for a limited time was because of Super Mario 64 and to the extent the N64 coming in an NSO update. (Since they released very close to each other) It would be pretty bad advertising to ad a game that is on you service when you just released a physical version of said game around the same time. Because it would give people less of a reason to be subscribed to the service.
I’m not trying to defend Nintendo hear. I’m just trying to explain why I think this happened.
I think what is fundamentally flawed with Demeech’s mario kart tweet is that he makes a serious criticism to a group of people with a joke post because it’s obvious that the images are a joke. He could have easily just said on the post: “Imagine if the next Mario kart uses the free updates method of the mario sports games”. It would have transmitted that message far better because one, it would’ve been obviously a joke and two, people would’ve reflected on the terrible free updates to a game with a lack of content method and made people not want it on a more popular and well-liked game that is Mario kart. He had a solid take but Demeech just had to attack some people.
Don't tell demeech about the instagram reels comments
@MG-yw2nd oh we could only hope… than again would he really get much traction?
Can I be cringe for a sec and mention a cancelled UA-camr in regards of my point of the whole "unfinished vs incomplete" thing?
When The Completionist rates the games he reviews, "Finish It" and "Complete It" are regarded as two different ratings: "Finish It" means that he recommends players to play the game up until beating the final boss, whilst "Complete It" means he recommends players to play, beat and collect EVERYTHING the game has to offer, until they're done 100%. This is an example of how people view the terms "finishing" and "completing" a game, REGARDLESS of what the thesaurus says about these two terms. And guess what, this can also be applied to game development: people would see "finishing" development on a game as releasing the game with the absolute minimum requirements (like how beating the final boss in the main story is the absolute minimum requirement), which in this case means to include a presentable amount of characters and levels, and make sure the game runs well without bugging out; whereas they see "completing" development include _everything else_ they want to add to a game content-wise. I'm pretty sure this is how it is, because when I see people say a game is "unfinished", they typically refer to games that clearly have a bunch of bugs, like Cyberpunk 2077 at launch, or Sonic 06 in general, and NEVER to game _Demeech_ calls "unfinished", which run perfectly fine but simply lack things to do, such as Nintendo Switch Sports.
Mostly though, I am really annoyed that Demeech will just lump the Nintendo Switch Sportses and the Mario Golf Super Rushes into the exact same category as the Cyberpunk 2077s and the Sonic 06s, and call ALL of them "unfinished", even though one side is clearly "unfinished" for COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONS than the other. And I'm EVEN MORE ANNOYED that, instead of realizing that some might find using the same terminology for _two completely different bad things_ might be just a _little_ bit confusing or annoying, Demeech will just yell at anyone pointing this out "erm ackshually 'unfinished' and 'incomplete' mean the same thing, read a dictionary ☝️🤓", but with a temper that is _ten times worse than Mr. Enter's in the early-to-mid 2010s._ Like, Demeech, were you annoyed at The Completionist too that he regards "Finish It" and "Complete It" as different-meaning terms, too, back before he was revealed to be a scammer?
Also, NO, Demeech, NO ONE IS DEFENDING THESE GAMES WHEN SAYING THAT. They are NOT saying to use a different term to say that the incomplete games are actually good or something. They're simply just as annoyed as me that you lump these "games that lack in content" in the same "unfinished games" category as the glitchy messes that do need more time in the oven. That's like saying calling apples and pears the same thing JUST because they're both pome fruits.
...I might copypaste this rant for when the reaction to one of the Nintendo Switch Sports videos of his is out in the public, as he makes a similar remark to "erm read the dictionary, incomplete and unfinished mean the same thing ☝️🤓", as a segue to "DEMEECH'S ULTIMATE FURY" to boot (as if that's more rage-inducing than anything Nintendo did), right in the same stream as me stating why I prefer calling these games "incomplete". I was already warned about this trap card too by other stream watchers, so I at least could brace myself.
As a hardcore Pyra supporter and enjoyer… I’m not surprised that someone tried cancelling a person for talking about Pyra
While I do believe that it is a shame how negativity gains a lot more traction compared to positivity nowadays, especially on sites like Twitter and Reddit. It is our responsibility to try to filter out the hate and avoid engaging with people who are purely attention seekers, solely trying to get a rise from you. It'll only lead to wasted time trying to debate with them.
Unless it's for a quick laugh. Doubling down is just funny in the right moment
Something that I notice with Ilovenintendofan1999’s twin is the lack of mentioning Camelot, like you know the devs of the Mario Tennis and Golf games.
It’s true, Super Rush and Aces were light games at the start. That doesn’t mean I still didn’t enjoy them both, Super Rush especially!
Who NEEDS Twitter when the UA-cam community tab exists?
hi demeech lmao
This but ironically
Nah, you need viewership and it shows
THE Demeech himself lesgoooo
It really is Demeech December 😭
it does make me sad you get negative criticism bc youre an amazing youtuber and i know youll get the recognition you deserve!!!!! youre such a hard worker its very admirable
Funny How Demmech quit Twitter and then went to Reddit and then treat it like twitter for the most part.(And UA-cam community tab as well)
Also some of the point that Demmech were hard to agree since he didn't show any tweet that make his point on people are bully and Nintendo is like is EA level of scum. Which made me that if he didn't show tweet here but why later on his Pokémon gen 9 video when he show a twert of someone just enjoy the game. And even use strawmen and invalided that person opinion solely because that person have an amine pfp.
Nintendo has kept prices the same even with the drop of the cost of software when it’s digital.. the discounts they do offer could be better and you don’t own the software.. Demeech is making some valid points.. love him or hate him at least you know what you getting
Hey if you need any more ideas for #demeechdecember ever since September there's been these wierd clones of him popping up varying from simple color swaps to some genuine deep cut references if you're a fan of the channel and some even have some videos uploaded so I guess you're in for a treat
You are noooow watchingggg DEMEECH!!!!!
People didn’t bully or mock Arlo, he’s just notoriously not a fan of Kirby so his Star Allies video was quite in bad faith. People were calling him out for bad arguments for his opinion and poor criticism of the game. I find it telling Demeech doesn’t give examples of this supposed “harassment”.
i mean, does any body disagree, twitter does indeed suck
32:35
Mario Kart Tour
And technically you could also hold Nintendo responsible for any third party game that has them because Nintendo "regulates" their platform and probably get a cut of the revenue
To be fair those are just on mobile (and even then it seems like they are shutting down all there mobile games sides Pokémon because the ownership of that franchise is weird) but still good point
6:03 I still think my mom blames the fact that me and my sister rewatched the fred movies (mainly the first and third ones) so many times that it ruined our senses of humor but idc they are classics
Some videos he made after that one kinda tells me he hasn’t but I don’t know I could just be going insane.
:3
So THIS is why Twitter fell off…
We love Demeech December!
By the way, I tried to join the Discord server, but the link was expired. Does anyone have a working link to join the Discord?
Me terrified for macro may
Tell him to come to Bluesky.
0:03 based better call Saul fan. But how tf are you making an hour long video of some random Nintendo fan leaving Twitter
Probably for attention.. gotta have a topic of focus
im demeeching out!!!!
I don't really understand why he's harping on Mario Golf: Super Rush as, content-wise, that game was fine even when it released.
And he didn’t think that it was fine. Opinions!
@@LleytonSPD Bruh, Demeech is literally the opinion basher when it comes to Mario Sports and Pokémon games, I don’t think he deserves to have his opinion respected if he’s not gonna respect anyone else’s.
@@Rediscool9 I agree with you on many levels here, i mean i have a ton of experience with “opinion bullies” since i adore Xenoblade. However, best thing to do is just ignore their opinion bashing or try to get it fixed
@@Folutu It's because Demeech thinks "this game gets free updates" = "this game is unfinished at launch" no matter what, and thus cringes every time a game is announced to get free updates.
-Even though ARMS and Splatoon got free updates too and I've never seen him complain about THOSE games...-