DCS Black Shark 3 news | This is not the INU alignment you're looking for. Seriously
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Long way of saying tried stuff. Failed. Moving on the blowing stuff up for now.
When alignment is figured out/patched, I'll go through these steps more thoroughly.
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Very strange that the precision alignment produces massive drift for me, but if I do the accelerated alignment it performs flawlessly.
I've ripped out whatever was remaining out of my own hair trying to test this INU drift issue. It's all frustrating to say the least lol
Yup. Seeing what you guys have done, the extra stuff I tried and (possible the translating app inconsistencies) conflicting forum posts - nah - unless someone else strikes it lucky and finds that missing piece, this needs ED to enlighten us.
Great video...thanks for material and information (and time to share). Yes, it's clear that something is bugged. Only hot start seems to bypass the problem...
Yeah the INU is annoying. I thought I had it today after doing normal alignment and quickly found that didn’t work either. It has to be a bug, can’t be that bad. I can fly the F-1 Mirage, using just radials and it’s primitive INS and still end up pretty close to target. Also, it may be me, but auto turn seems to be off as well, at certain times. Hopefully, it will be cleaned up next patch.
Thanks very much for trying.
Such a shame.
Given experience with DCS Apache it is, unfortunately, not a big surprise.
Supposedly this alignment drift is new tech/algorithms ED developed. Fingers crossed for a sooner-rather-than-later Jan patch.
Borked from the get go, typical ED rubbish. I was targeting some armor with the ATGM's and and enabled the rotate to target and it took me 180 degrees opposite.
When your HSI starts drifting from a fixed waypoint, so the distance gauge increases by 1 km every second - your Ka-50 has transformed into Airwolf
LOL
5:30 LOL, that pilot head :D Why don't I get the new Mi-24 3d models in Su-25 instant action mission (geargian foothills) where the two 24s are a real pain in the ass?! Note that I do not own the Hind module.
It's a really interesting topic. Alignment can take up to 20 minutes depending on the system within the aircraft, ED's new tutorial is indicating 15 minutes plus here for the BSIII. I can't attest yet to the wayward alignment drifts yet, but I'm curious if it is an error or something else that needs fixing. I'm aware that because of the sensitivity of leveling the INS pre-flight, it's not recommended for some aircraft to even have their engines running as it can mess with the accelerometers etc, etc.
Had this issue today, really put me off flying the Shark for now, just gonna practice with the Hind for the time being!
Glad to know I'm not the only one having trouble with it
Hi Volk!
Do you know if the INU alignment was fixed by ED ?
Seemingly yes. There's still one or two things with targeting and drift I'm not 100% about, but the alignment process itself seems working.
Any update on this? After a few years, I dug up the shark again. Now I heard about the V3-update (missed the discount)... Is it worth it beside of the new MWS? The cockpit graphics seem to be unchanged or have been updated in V2 as it seems.
For ME, totally worth it. But not going to sell it to you as a must-have. The core experience is still similar to BS2. Cockpit textures were updated a few years back, think as a freebie when their initial plans for BS3 fell through.
New player and was wondering if the INU has a new procedure/fix; I attempted updating the INU with a fixed poit but all my WPTs became unresponsive. 😔
I think there might be one or two niggling things - but for the most part it's solved. Unless the fix point coordinates were somehow well off - in which case obviously the waypoints would be in different locations. If you need one on the fly - best is often just to land/hover, then check your coordinates on the ABRIS - assuming you've switched to DD'MM.MM in the units tab), then capture those as a fix point and use fly-over. So unless the fix point coords were way off, or the heading was somehow very far off course, i.e. points would be calculated the wrong angle/distance, I can't think why waypoints would become unresponsive. Maybe for that check the obvious stuff too, like has the PVI been changed back from input/edit mode to OPERational mode.
This mess needs "Hi folks! Waaagz here from eagle dynamic 😏, today I will show you how to......." tutorial to be clear.
Needed that before release, since it was also one of the 3 features highlighted in the white paper.
@@volkvoort 💯 agree.. how it will be his return onboard the 🦈 after more than 14 years since BS1 tutos 😌.
Bring this up in Forum but don't forget to bring along your... "Track File" 🙄
lol. yup.
Thank you.
Would it also be a fine solution to just set a Fixpoint based on the current-location from abris and then use this without flying somewhere?
Sorta, but not really. Your starting position would be decent, but it's still drifting waaay faster than it should, so you'd need a LOT of fix points to keep a decent position.
Hopefully we get a new heli DM
Why did it take 4 Iglas to shoot down that hind?
Haven't had any problems with the quick alignment...
Yeah, quick seems to be best one at the moment.
@@volkvoort yeah, but that having been said, there's still a crazy amount of drift. I've just been using the abris until I can figure it out
@@ScreamingElectron pretty much the same for me - more ABRIS use.
do you notice the sun damage on the two turn dials. at least i hope it is sun damage and not the shadow following it around
I'll need to have a look-see.
Trying to dig into BS3 and I'm having a hell of a time storing datalink targets- the ABRIS shows the shkval pointing at what appears to be the right place, I lase and get the "TA" callout on the shkval, but when I store the point to memory it stores to an entirely different location. INU hasn't drifted *that* much, and it's still accurate enough for route mode to fly me where I need to go hands-off.
Having difficulty determining if this is a bug, or me being head-assed about the new INU stuff. Anyone else getting similar behavior and know of a fix? This is with a cold-started helo doing the fastest align.
I've read there are (possibly) bugs with storing targets via lasing (a bug report from Hobel on the forums). Don't have much data linking recently to confirm or expand on that myself. That said - you're using the accelerated alignment, which would be drifting out faster.
I suspect in your case - or rather that scenario - the ABRIS is getting the angle and ranging from the Shkval, so showing a spot. Once you save as a target point/data link target, it's stored in the PVI/Rubicon using ITS coordinates. When you recall, the ABRIS is no longer showing your Shkval based on an angle, and its own knowledge of your coordinates from the satellites, but showing the coordinates which are being given to it from the Rubicon, which are now off-course/destination/elsewhere.
@@volkvoort I guess the weird interlink between the ABRIS and the PVI-800 would explain the coordinate offset, though it seems excessive even taking that into account.
I've got a precision align hokum flying over syria right now as I type this and I'm still seeing similar- and actually, worse- issues, so I'm going to err on the side of this being a bug. Less than ten minutes into the flight and I'm already seeing a not-insignificant mismatch between ABRIS coordinates and PVI-800 coordinates, and my heading was massively wrong from the moment I went wheels up (which is fun, considering as I understand it the whole point of a precision align is to get a really accurate heading). I might have done something wrong, but if I did the manual needs work, as I followed the procedure laid out there. Frustrating to see this is still an issue two months after this video, but it is what it is I suppose.
@@therealCG62 is it saying something like course air mode above you on the left?
@@volkvoort i was getting an intermittent "CALC AC POS" or something similar to that on the advisory panel on the upper rail, and the appearance of that advisory also occasionally caused the speed readout on my HUD to freeze
@@therealCG62 I'll need to check, but think that was the your-doppler's-unhappy warning. I'll probably do a inu alignment vid soon (soon being my usual relative and only some time after the air-to-air stuff is out), though as an intermediate thing - not sure the dust has settled enough for extensive testing on the alignment yet.
I just decided not to touch Shark until it's fixed. Which was about 13 months ago.
I just enter a hover and use the abris self coordinates to do a fix, I've tried doing a precision alignment and it's by far the least accurate method it makes no sense.
Another thing that pisses me off is the extremely poor damage of the IGLAS and VIKHR against air targets, a fucking huey takes 4 iglas or 4 vikhr's to go down
Except when I'm in a huey or apache, then one will knock it clear outta the sky.
It's not just iglas and vikhrs, the gun also does barely anything (dumped both all he and API rounds into a Ka-27 with a hit% of about 50-70%, and it just kept going), and other times I've hit Mi-8s with 4 sidewinders to no real effect, even the GAU-8 struggles to kill them. There's just something wrong overall with ai heli damage.
@@jubuttib THIS
Yeah, the AI be tanky. Or it's the missing frag effects, unsure. As for the hover & ABRIS correction - I don't think just the Fix Pnt will do, since that's only coordinates I think. They heading and general alignment is degrading, and degrading faster and faster to which Fix Pnt is just a temporary bandaid.
@@volkvoort Is this in any way realistic?
Doing Fix points and Heading fix helps but it get's worse with time regardless.
Doesn't matter which kind of alignment you start with.
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figured as much. "it's a feature". j/k lol
There's really someone who asked for this pain in ass?
I can understand that's it's "realistic", but seriously...
This is masochism. The KA-50 is already a pain to manage: a lot of systems, all alone, fighting vs the strange autopilot, now fighting also vs the rocket gas, while in other gunship there are 2 person on board...
Do not misunderstand me: I love the KA-50, but I don't want to waste time in this shit. 😞
I think that a real pilot prefer the mobile chart like in the hind at this point.
Ps: there's a way to turn off this "feature"?
In mision editor there is a checkbox that is related with realistic ins. Maybe if we unchek that It IS solved. I didnt tried It
@@hergar_bello I haven't checked that either to test, but from what I understand that's exactly what that checkbox is supposed to do - make it like Black Shark 2 was in terms of not worrying about INU drift.