I gotta admit, as a guitar player and composer i never had realized the difference between d-beat and the usual fast beat. Thank you very much for the awesome video!
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow discharge of course, german band A.F.K, i like raw high speed demo tapes of many underground bands which names sure means nothing for you and me like idk Axiom, Krigsnetsare, Singe, swedish crust and d-beat scene is pretty sick, actually d-beat is not for d-beat only, it has spread in many genres of hardcore punk and extreme metal, some thrash and crossover bands like to use it, it can be heard even in black and death metal, sludge (eyehategod like to use this beat in high speed parts "agitation propaganda" for example) and yeah, i think, d-beat makes everything sound better
d-beat drumming just makes everything better. the comparison you are doing between both styles make it way more easier to understand the differences, thanks
One of the things I really love about D-beat is that it’s punk’s way of incorporating that same mother rhythm that is the basis for so much Afro-Latin music... groups of 3 + 3 + 2 felt like ONE and two AND three and FOUR and. Americans prob recognize it most as Dancehall reggae, reggaeton, or the basic rhythm in most of Ed Sheehan’s recent hits lol. But that rhythm can be found everywhere, and prob for at least a few centuries now. The closest comparison to D-Beat is the Brazilian version called Baiõ, but they use hihat chicks instead of snare, and the d-beat moves the last kick one note earlier so it syncopates the against the snare instead of landing with the snare/chick/whatever on beat 4. Now the snare + cymbal combo is giving us the big emphasis on 4, which is also the only time snare and cymbal play together in the version you’re doing here. But if you took out the first snare hit, you’d almost have a super-fast dancehall beat
Super interesting! And super important to remember where the influence really came from. A lot of people forget including myself, how music is all connected even though it may not seem like it sometimes with all the sub genres. I guess it’s especially Americans who think they invented everything haha
niiiice!, I never noticed this similarity, so the guy grows up listening to disclose and after being old finds out he likes disclose because he played the 'asa branca' on the flute heuheuheuheuhu
Also at high speeds the kick pattern tends to flatten into triplets from its previous 8ths pattern, much like a ride pattern tends to flatten into duplets from its previous triplet state, but the other way around
Disclose is my favorite. Their album Todays Fairytale, Tomorrow’s Nightmare, is the loudest album, in the red the entire time. Best heard with the volume cranked.
ALL TIME FAVORITE DRUM BEAT! i always use it to all my songs either the hardcore punk beat or the d beat. if only i can play drums like yours or this dude named kyle smith who literally covered skate punk bands.
There's just something about the d-beat that's so catchy and powerful. I've always felt its that pause between the 2nd and 3rd bass hit that give it this kind of rolling forward feeling. Makes the music have this forward momentum that other drum beats just don't do in the same way.
Glad to see it played proper, even if there are a few variations (kick and right hand matching comes to mind.) I think a lot of people use the term to describe fast punk beats, but they’re definitely sonically different :).
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Yeah, that’s how I feel haha. If anyone is listening that’s rad in itself. I only do the matching thing in my band if I’m playing really fast, otherwise just like how you did it.
Thx for the upload man! I think hiatus is the best band to explain the fastest and tightest dbeat ever. Its more like a soundwall then straight punk. Thats why grindcore is a thing i guess? xD
Thank you!! I made a video about my recording setup a couple weeks ago. Sometimes I eq the mics a little bit but most of the audio is just straight into garageband from the mic interface
cursed and martyrdod getting mentioned is hilarious to me. i remember when they came out 15+ years ago and none of the dbeat/crusties would call them that then
Yeah I was curious if anyone was going to mention that, Ive always thought of them as more d-beat/crusty leaning than hardcore leaning but I can see why people don’t
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow i mean it really doesnt matter imo haha. when alot of those bands started pulling more of the dbeat/crust influence back into hardcore (cursed, converge, martyrdod, backstabbers inc etc) no one really talked about it. At the time crust/dbeat was almost more of an aesthetic thing more than having to do w/ music. Im just glad people now are into good bands.
Martyrdöd are a "d beat band". Almost all of their tracks feature that rhythm. If not all. Yes they are melodic, but still. Also, there is a thin line between hardcore punk/crust/d-beat/käng etc. Even crust is basically hardcore punk. This is definitely the safest term to use. Also, I don't know if you have them in your playlist because it won't open, but you should definitely listen to Skitsystem from Gothenburg Sweden. Adrian Erlandsson from At the Gates and Cradle of Filth used to play drums on them, and also Tomas Lindberg from At The Gates/Disfear etc. used to do vocals.
@@Fasistoktonos_ They're a band that play d-beats, but they do not belong to the genre named d-beat. The song structure and riffing style isn't there. For examples of d-beat, try Warcry, Disclose, Disaster, or any of the billion other bands that have "dis" in their name and yell "war bad" Martyrdöd are melodic/blackened/"neo" crust, and fuсking good at it too. Give them proper credit
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow cool bro, great job🔥👍🏻 thanks for this stuff, i really like your stuff👏🏻 I remember how i love hardcore/punk music because the d-beat & hc/punk fast beat . The intensity makes me feel hell yeah🔥 and since that i love hc/punk scene . Keep it up bro, i really enjoyed this & appreciated👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 you really get it right👍🏻
Thanks for the playlist, my man. I'm working with a new drummer who has never heard of D-Beat, I guess I'm sending him this video too. Haha RIP KAWAKAMI. I ❤D-Beat.
There’s a couple brands making really good affordable stuff like the Istanbul Xist line, but I would also suggest getting some used Zildjians like A customs, you can usually find them for cheap
Hey, thanks a lot! And yeah definitely, electronic kits are awesome especially if you live in an apartment or don’t have a space you can be super loud.
I learnt on an ekit and I honestly love it. Translating the stuff to a regular kit is wild. I find myself improving alot due to the ekits being pretty unforgiving
I wonder if there’s like a hardcore punk gang who like beating up D beat gang kids or vice a versa. Cause that’s how petty it seems when the two beats somehow gain their own “genres”.
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Yeah of course that's an option!:) But with the snare on every 2 and 4 the bpm are really high no? 🤔 (Maybe I just don't understand what you meant😅🤷)
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow thanks dude! I’ve been listening to lots of GBH and discharge lately. Was pumped to hear your playlist. Also, keep the videos coming! Love them. Very few people on UA-cam focus on modern punk drumming. I
I mean you didn't even break it down, how was this a lesson? If someone is good enough to learn from this, they could just learn from the records directly.
Wow, you taught me nothing. This video is just you playing the beats and not explaining anything or at a bare minimum , playing slow to really zoom in on what's happening.
@@Jesse-mk9th hey, truly sorry I wasn’t able to convey the message to you. If you’re still having trouble I suggest checking out the bands I mentioned. Discharge, His Hero is Gone. That’s the good stuff.
When the D-Beat is played at a high BPM with the crash cymbal, chefs kiss
I gotta admit, as a guitar player and composer i never had realized the difference between d-beat and the usual fast beat. Thank you very much for the awesome video!
This beat makes me insane every time i hear it and changed my life i think, pretty sick, keep going
Hell yeah! What are some of your favorite d-beat bands?
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow discharge of course, german band A.F.K, i like raw high speed demo tapes of many underground bands which names sure means nothing for you and me like idk Axiom, Krigsnetsare, Singe, swedish crust and d-beat scene is pretty sick, actually d-beat is not for d-beat only, it has spread in many genres of hardcore punk and extreme metal, some thrash and crossover bands like to use it, it can be heard even in black and death metal, sludge (eyehategod like to use this beat in high speed parts "agitation propaganda" for example) and yeah, i think, d-beat makes everything sound better
same
d-beat drumming just makes everything better. the comparison you are doing between both styles make it way more easier to understand the differences, thanks
Another favorite is Disrupt.
Yeah! How many d-beat bands start with Dis- haha
I rly wish this existed when I first tried to learn punk
haha me too!! Would've saved me a lot of confusion
dude what i wouldnt have given to be able to show the drummers in my bands these videos 20 years ago haha
Anti system d beat kings
Disfear:DEFENDERS OF THE D-BEAT!!!!
🔥 Thanks for the shout out Thomas. As always, great job! Really enjoy your videos.
For sure! Much appreciated!
D Beat Dad kills those drums! Big fan🤘🏼
One of the things I really love about D-beat is that it’s punk’s way of incorporating that same mother rhythm that is the basis for so much Afro-Latin music... groups of 3 + 3 + 2 felt like ONE and two AND three and FOUR and. Americans prob recognize it most as Dancehall reggae, reggaeton, or the basic rhythm in most of Ed Sheehan’s recent hits lol. But that rhythm can be found everywhere, and prob for at least a few centuries now. The closest comparison to D-Beat is the Brazilian version called Baiõ, but they use hihat chicks instead of snare, and the d-beat moves the last kick one note earlier so it syncopates the against the snare instead of landing with the snare/chick/whatever on beat 4. Now the snare + cymbal combo is giving us the big emphasis on 4, which is also the only time snare and cymbal play together in the version you’re doing here. But if you took out the first snare hit, you’d almost have a super-fast dancehall beat
Super interesting! And super important to remember where the influence really came from. A lot of people forget including myself, how music is all connected even though it may not seem like it sometimes with all the sub genres. I guess it’s especially Americans who think they invented everything haha
Hahahahaha
niiiice!, I never noticed this similarity, so the guy grows up listening to disclose and after being old finds out he likes disclose because he played the 'asa branca' on the flute heuheuheuheuhu
I'm dying to laugh here listening to the baião from Luiz gonzaga and noticing what you said, it's clear a slow d-beat hhahaha
Also at high speeds the kick pattern tends to flatten into triplets from its previous 8ths pattern, much like a ride pattern tends to flatten into duplets from its previous triplet state, but the other way around
Cursed II is one of my favorite albums, period.
Such an awesome record!
Dawg, that’s actually a pretty sick playlist. Apart from the fact that it has a good array of d-beat use cases. Rock on. Thx.
Disclose is my favorite. Their album Todays Fairytale, Tomorrow’s Nightmare, is the loudest album, in the red the entire time. Best heard with the volume cranked.
Hell yeah
Perfectly explained, good job.I am a punk drummer and your video helps me a lot, everything is clear now. Thanks, Thomas. Greetings from Mexico City.
That’s awesome!! Thanks so much for the support!
You're painfully underrated man, i love all of your videos
Thanks! I love tofu so we’re basically best friends now 🤓
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow hell yeah!
ALL TIME FAVORITE DRUM BEAT! i always use it to all my songs either the hardcore punk beat or the d beat. if only i can play drums like yours or this dude named kyle smith who literally covered skate punk bands.
Literally me, love this channel
There's just something about the d-beat that's so catchy and powerful. I've always felt its that pause between the 2nd and 3rd bass hit that give it this kind of rolling forward feeling. Makes the music have this forward momentum that other drum beats just don't do in the same way.
Glad to see it played proper, even if there are a few variations (kick and right hand matching comes to mind.) I think a lot of people use the term to describe fast punk beats, but they’re definitely sonically different :).
Totally! I guess matching the kick with the cymbal is more common than I thought. And yeah, I mean at the end of the day it’s all punk haha
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Yeah, that’s how I feel haha. If anyone is listening that’s rad in itself. I only do the matching thing in my band if I’m playing really fast, otherwise just like how you did it.
@@Etherion yeah totally! It depends on the riff too I guess
I can listen to the fast and d-beat all day fuckin long.
The drummer from impalers got me into D Beat when I was younger
favorite current d-beat band, paranoid from sweden.
Thx for the upload man!
I think hiatus is the best band to explain the fastest and tightest dbeat ever.
Its more like a soundwall then straight punk. Thats why grindcore is a thing i guess? xD
Man, i discovered your channel a week ago and i just can't get enough the sound of yours drums. Can you make a video of how you get this sound?
Thank you!! I made a video about my recording setup a couple weeks ago. Sometimes I eq the mics a little bit but most of the audio is just straight into garageband from the mic interface
2:05 i love how a funk beat slowed up can be dnb then sped up even more can become punk beat. all the same kick snare basic pattern
Good breakdown on a staple HC beat. Well done!
Love your drums and your vid.
Excellent demonstration. D-beat rocks harder.
cursed and martyrdod getting mentioned is hilarious to me. i remember when they came out 15+ years ago and none of the dbeat/crusties would call them that then
Yeah I was curious if anyone was going to mention that, Ive always thought of them as more d-beat/crusty leaning than hardcore leaning but I can see why people don’t
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow i mean it really doesnt matter imo haha. when alot of those bands started pulling more of the dbeat/crust influence back into hardcore (cursed, converge, martyrdod, backstabbers inc etc) no one really talked about it. At the time crust/dbeat was almost more of an aesthetic thing more than having to do w/ music. Im just glad people now are into good bands.
Martyrdöd are a "d beat band". Almost all of their tracks feature that rhythm. If not all. Yes they are melodic, but still. Also, there is a thin line between hardcore punk/crust/d-beat/käng etc. Even crust is basically hardcore punk. This is definitely the safest term to use. Also, I don't know if you have them in your playlist because it won't open, but you should definitely listen to Skitsystem from Gothenburg Sweden. Adrian Erlandsson from At the Gates and Cradle of Filth used to play drums on them, and also Tomas Lindberg from At The Gates/Disfear etc. used to do vocals.
@@Fasistoktonos_ They're a band that play d-beats, but they do not belong to the genre named d-beat. The song structure and riffing style isn't there. For examples of d-beat, try Warcry, Disclose, Disaster, or any of the billion other bands that have "dis" in their name and yell "war bad"
Martyrdöd are melodic/blackened/"neo" crust, and fuсking good at it too. Give them proper credit
Yeah i love d-beat🔥🔥🔥
Did I get it right? Lol
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow cool bro, great job🔥👍🏻 thanks for this stuff, i really like your stuff👏🏻
I remember how i love hardcore/punk music because the d-beat & hc/punk fast beat . The intensity makes me feel hell yeah🔥 and since that i love hc/punk scene .
Keep it up bro, i really enjoyed this & appreciated👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 you really get it right👍🏻
my favorite style to play. thanks for the video. should talk about the bass drum difference as well. 👍🏻🥁
Thank you bro, this is very helpful
Thanks for the playlist, my man. I'm working with a new drummer who has never heard of D-Beat, I guess I'm sending him this video too. Haha
RIP KAWAKAMI. I ❤D-Beat.
oiii gaw, parehas tag getanaw. hehehe
Nice. I'd like to hear you do a long buzz roll.
Extinctions of mankind 🤘🤘🤘
love these videos \m/
Nice vid dude 👌
Thanks a lot!!
are you using a double stroke technique with the bass drum?
Martyrdöd.
Classic band
Bro i just learnd it accidentally as i was trying something new🥳🥳
Good Playing, Good Breakdown! 🤙🏼
Thanks! Appreciate it!
UNIQUE
I am having so much trouble playing the d beat I can play it kinda fast but can not play it at all slow lol not sure why but this one gets me.
Iron Maiden uses this in Be Quick or be Dead and Aces High
1:42 CINQUILLO N TRESILLO TIME
It's a real generalisation to say "Hardcore drummers play fast beat", you can still play the same d-beat bass drum pattern and play 4/4 on the cymbal
Yes, that is correct 👍 you can play whatever you want
antibodies from pei are a great dbeat band
Buzzcocks tear me up
So kick and cymbal are hit in the same time?
Depends on the variation. Discharge plays like that
Ramones OG D Beat band :o)
Yeah I love how all these bands can be traced back to influences from the 70's and early 80's punk bands
Could to please translate this to Midi`
Can you play slowly please ? As a beginner I don't understand how to do it
Sorry, sometimes I get carried away! Lol I’ll try to do a slower example sometime soon. Thanks for watching!
What’s the best crash cymbal for d beat in the 200$ range?
There’s a couple brands making really good affordable stuff like the Istanbul Xist line, but I would also suggest getting some used Zildjians like A customs, you can usually find them for cheap
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow I was thinking about the meinl classic series. They’re a little under 200$ or a paiste rude. Thanks, I’ll check these out.
@@Gibson-zq7tb never used those Meinl but the paiste rude line is badass too
I can't hear you and u don't got any captions 😢
Are those 14" K (regular) or 15" K Light hats? They look big in the video.
They’re 15”
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Thanks. Are those the Light or Sweet? They fit nicely in the mix. I
@@patrickjmckenna thanks! They’re the light K’s. They’re like my favorite pair I’ve ever had but I played on New Beats for a long time too
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow I have the 14's, but after seeing this, I need those 15's. My New Beats always felt too heavy and sorta bland. These sound great.
@@patrickjmckenna yeah haha the new beats are definitely chunky
Yeeeeeaaahh
You enjoy the regular hardcore punk beat I think
Hey man! Really love these videos! just a question - Do you think an electric drum set would be good for practicing?
Hey, thanks a lot! And yeah definitely, electronic kits are awesome especially if you live in an apartment or don’t have a space you can be super loud.
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Amazing thanks dude!
I learnt on an ekit and I honestly love it. Translating the stuff to a regular kit is wild. I find myself improving alot due to the ekits being pretty unforgiving
Da Beat
Please bro, add drum tabs or something like manual on the picture! And tnx for lessons)
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Hey bro, how many mics do you use from that awesome sound?
Yo! I’ve been using just two mics for these videos. I posted a recording setup video a couple weeks ago that shows my whole set up as well!
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow great bro I'd check it. Thanks! Greetings from Perú man
@@Caloesve sick! thanks for the support!!
You forgot a band from the 70s called Blast. Probably the first band in history to use D-Beat drumming.
Blast rules!
Hey man, this is kneill from Killing joke/disgust. Can we talk?
Hey! Yeah sure! You can email me here thomasxcantwell@gmail.com
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow great stuff thanks. I'll email you later today as soon as I get a minute. Thanks for the quick reply
Tabs
you made it looks way too easy. nice
I wonder if there’s like a hardcore punk gang who like beating up D beat gang kids or vice a versa. Cause that’s how petty it seems when the two beats somehow gain their own “genres”.
Ekkaia
Nice video:) but I think you made a mistake when you talked 'bout the snare rhythm. It's more on every "and" than on the 2 and 4
Thanks! I see what you mean, maybe we’re counting the measure differently?
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Yeah of course that's an option!:)
But with the snare on every 2 and 4 the bpm are really high no? 🤔 (Maybe I just don't understand what you meant😅🤷)
@@Rox9ne The bpm for these beats is around 140-180 bpm
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow So when you play that kind of rhythm you consider the snare and the cymbal as 8th note if I do understand how you count?:)
@@Rox9ne I think so, but I’m not sure haha I’m not very good with music notation
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Justice Ridge
Profile pic → Very nice!!!!
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You delete the playlist?
Oops lol Should be up now!
@@PrettyCoolDrumShow thanks dude! I’ve been listening to lots of GBH and discharge lately. Was pumped to hear your playlist.
Also, keep the videos coming! Love them. Very few people on UA-cam focus on modern punk drumming. I
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I mean you didn't even break it down, how was this a lesson? If someone is good enough to learn from this, they could just learn from the records directly.
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Anti system d beat
Great drumming but awful lesson.. definitely wouldn't donate..
Hate to break it to you jokey cat.. but the donation is mandatory..
Wow, you taught me nothing. This video is just you playing the beats and not explaining anything or at a bare minimum , playing slow to really zoom in on what's happening.
@@Jesse-mk9th hey, truly sorry I wasn’t able to convey the message to you. If you’re still having trouble I suggest checking out the bands I mentioned. Discharge, His Hero is Gone. That’s the good stuff.
Disfear.
What beats are the kicks supposed to be on?