Diablo 4: The Shocking Untold Truth of Imperius & His Upcoming Wrath on Heaven
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For a lore that's focused on the balance and the simmetry of good and evil, Diablo seems to only explore the concept of "tuning bad" but never the concept of "tuning good". If angels can fall and become corrupted, why isn't it also possible for demons to do the reverse and become more righteous? It would be interesting to see a Prime or Lesser Evil "purify" and fight for good.
That's a good point. I thought it would make sense if one or more of the demons that were tired of the Eternal Conflict & followed Inarius & Lilith to Sanctuary originally, became defenders of their nephalem offspring. Basically doing what Lilith only pretended to be doing. Of course Lilith killed off all the rogue demons & angels so none are still around, but it would be cool if a few survived, & had been watching over mankind.
Brand new to the game and this is so,etching I was trying to get
Throughout Diablo especially Diablo 1 in Tristram we see motifs of what true good is. Often the angels are sort of these external forces that barely intervene and are more like this guild than anything. Your best friends in Tristram who end up being most pivotal are a senile old man, a drunk, and a few crazy ass villagers. It’s sort of a story of good triumphing over evil in unexpected ways IMO.
@@MarkJohansen123 Yea, I think the duality in Diablo is actually 'Order vs Chaos' & not 'Good vs Evil'. The Angels aren't 'Good' as we think of the term, Inarius, Imperius & eventually even Malthael wanted to destroy mankind. The Angels just want to uphold an Ordered cosmos & oppose the Chaotic corruption of Demons.
Humans are largely left on their own to survive & develop their own duality, a conception of what is Good & what is Evil. Good seems to be whatever benefits mankind's survival, & develops virtues such as Honor, Compassion, Justice, etc, leading to healthy communities & a sense of Brotherhood. Evil is whatever corrupts mankind, tempting our baser instincts towards destruction, greed, hatred, etc.
Tyrael as the aspect of Justice, is the only Angel that directly helps mankind, the only one that seems Good to our human perspective. As humans we are both Angel & Demon, we are made of both Order & Chaos, & our heroes recognize both are needed to preserve the most Good.
@@EximiusNero BABYLON 5 Called... it wishes to discuss this mistaken conflict in depth. Turns out Vorlons WERE NOT 'the good guys", and ended up using the concept of extermination of contaminated beings before Diablo was even launched.
Fore reference purposes -- [Babylon 5 pilot was early 1993, and series launched in 1994, completing in 1998]
This is the ultimate problem with Diablo and complex stories.
The player is always supposed to win.
When your players are supposed to win, every lore figure becomes a punching bag.
In my opinion, it would be far more interesting to see Imperius defy the odds. Ultimately reforming himself.
Now could this involve Imperius falling down the demonic path? Absolutely. But what makes a story like this great is if Imperius is able to actually come back from the corruption (with some help from the player, of course.)
Falling deep down the well of anger and despair, only to come back stronger is a fantastic story avenue.
agreed
Yes, but we already see that with Malthael how he fall... I don't think Bliz will do same for Imperius, my guess is that they will ressurect Anu in one point to the lore and Prime Evil will merge into The Great Dragon Tathameth, all will clash in one great battle together including the Nephalem.
And yet the Player loses about as hard as you could imagine even when "winning" in Diablo 1.
That fits the tragic hero's arc from Ancient Greek mythology: illustrious beginnings, fall from grace, and an arduous road to redemption.
i would sayd a problem with blizard having MMO mentality, like WOW, before it, player lost, humans lost on warcraft, arthas become evil, diablo 1 heroes became evil and such
I'm torn. I really don't want Imperius to become corrupted. I always thought of him as too proud and good to become so. It'd be cool to see him go ballistic but I really don't want him to be killed. Redemption was what I was hoping for and a victory for him. Having yet another angel turn evil and then Imperius be defeated, again, is just.. lazy, to me.
He's my favorite character and I have much higher hopes for him than what they planned here. I really hope this idea hasn't stuck.
Had to say I also think like you as he's the one with the coolest armour too
And badass light-teleportation entrance + weapon summoning
OH PLEASE BEEYOTCH.. Imperius was clearly NEVER GOOD. You know he summons that spear thing form out of his asshole, where it is stuck 95% of the time, right? He was always ORDER ABOVE ALL,etc.
[I literally just dreamed that concept up at this very moment.. Certainly fits the "stick up his ass" trope well HAHAHAHA]
Angels in the diablo universe aren't as good as their biblical counter parts.
They are just orderly asshole/psychopaths that saw humanity as a taboo to their existence and can be corrupted by demons by disregarding that themselves (the angels) can also be corrupted.
Talking about hypocrisy.
@@ZakhadWOW u okay bro?
There are two wolves in me. One wants to see the Imperius goes absolute savage. The other doesn't want such easy end to this character.
nope, there the same wolf friend hehe
It would be better if he was sort of a rival antagonist always either to late or not clever enough to out pace the hero, leading to a minor boss fight that doesn't kill him but just deconstruct imperious lol
Bestiality is illegal bro
So many people failed to remember the specific detail in Cain's reading of prophecy:
"And, at the End of Days, Wisdom shall be lost [Malthael]
as Justice falls upon the world of men. [Tyrael]
Valor shall turn to Wrath - [Imperius]
and all Hope will be swallowed by Despair. [Auriel]
Death, at last, shall spread its wings over all - [Malthael again]
as Fate lies shattered forever." [Itherael]
fancy way to say useless angels are useless
If im gonna be honest i think it might be too obvious to make imperius the bad guy why not have him strive to redeem himself after nearly falling
Agree, I dont know why he should be some villian, in d3 he wasnt a villian, he was an asshole, and in RoS I took him like he started liking us, he just didnt want to damage his ego, but that really dont makes him evil, so I hope they do not butcher his story, I like imperius, he is not good but neither evil.
@@konkous1 i mean he is not evil in fact he is pragmatical.
He despises us not Because of our demon blood exactly but he witnessed how much destruction a group of nephalem managed to do to both Heaven and hell..baaically smashing both armies without much effort, his logic of Wiping us out to not risk heaven fall is Logical.
And even then in D3 we are directly helping in the creation of Prime Diablo who afterwards procedes to humiliate him and Corrupt parts of the Heaven.
Quite honestly he was an asshole but Unlike Malthael he was justified in his outrage
I want to see Imperius fall and be redeemed. That he makes a mess of things, which may be why Lilith is needed. The Nephilim can't be everywhere even with the great power at their call. So some may feel a need for other protectors. This only infuriates Imperius more, making the conflict even bloodier. But as he sinks ever further into the embrace of wrath he finally sees some of what his brother sees in them. A glimmer of good. Not a lot...especially not in the face of all the injustice he sees. But it gives him pause. A mental weakness. One that is capitalized to turn him from his path of wrath and to maybe help save the day. He can't go back to how he was and he still can't forgive the humans...but maybe he can be a bit more even handed with them. Maybe...he realizes without justice valor means nothing.
That would be good
I would pay a good amount to see that unfinished/unreleased cinematic showing Imperius' true face man!!
I'm a bit fed up with all stories ending like this, it's always the same. It would be much cooler if Imperious reconsiders at the end before everyting is too late and then goes ballistic on the demons again maybe on multiple greater evil's, with a great cinematic like in the good old days. Would much more be a surprise as i see it.
I also hope it doesn't end like him lying destroyed on the ground after murdering millions but now everbody forgives him and he all of a sudden see's his errors.
He's a narciscist. Therefor everyone else is to blame for his mistakes. He's unable to accept reality because he can't handle it.
He couldn't handle the fact that he couldn't judge Tyrael who's justice personified.
He couldn't handle the fact that a mortal saved him and heaven from Diablo.
He couldn't handle the fact that Tyrael defied him.
And he couldn't handle the fact that he is not as allmigthy as he thinks he is.
He's basicly like Donald Trump.
+1
also, angels are *supposed* to be the exact opposite of demons. much as you don't hear of a demon being taught mercy, kindness, all that, i'd expect you wouldn't realistically hear about angels being corrupted either. i'd much prefer a storyline closer to the origins where it's basically angels and demons doing their own stuff with their eternal war and viewing humanity just as a tool to victory, with few exceptions like tyrael, lilith, and inarius.
@@danmarusan2878 I think you mean Nancy Pelosi but whatever. Going into real life politics isn't the point and I feel we shouldn't allude to it when we're talking about games even if there's a set of politics within. Because we can go one and one and lambast the other side for the shit they let happen or did.
Or we get Imperius break Tyrael's back like Bane did Batman, permanently crippling him, cementing his role as the next "Deckard Cain"
...that not how Passing The Torch work
I would prefer Tyrael decapitating him and therefor freeing heaven from an narciscist asshole who's self rigthiousness nearly cost the World of Sanctuario everything.
It feels, to me, like Diablo's partial corruption of the Crystal Arch has had an affect on the Angeris Council. They're virtues have become twisted. Wisdom becomes Death, Valor becomes Wrath. The angels seem to have been twisted by Diablo.
Imperius is definitely a very dark character and the death of Malthael at the hand of the Nephalem, a being stronger than angels and demons, a being that wouldn't even be alive if the council voted on destroying them might have been the last straw. He took over heaven killing his brethren that did not want this to happen and now rules over heaven only to strike sometime in the main storyline of Diablo IV with our character fighting and killing the now Aspect of Wrath.
I could see this happen.
I would think the natural conclusion to pure wrath would be exhaustion. Since there is this time jump I'm assuming. Imperius would be come broken but still unforgiving of humanity. With the death of Maltheal and the aging of Tyreal's mortal form leading to his probable death Imperius would force the gates of heaven shut. He goes to pandemonium like ages past and is beaten and broken in combats with no purpose against the burning hells. His armor dented and wrecked he just wallows in the pandemonium fortress. Auriel and aetherial unable to coax him back.
Maybe the player needs information on Lillith only Imperius knows and goes to the pandemonium fortress to find him. They see him broken against a wall recouping from a recent battle. He then says how hope and fate cannot bring him back. Valor and Justice have failed him as well. The character then offers mortal wisdom which at first angers Imperius for he confronts his wrongs but cannot handle them and it looks like the boss fight finally happens but he just collapses and is brought back to heaven finally.
I like this story thread cause I've never seen Imperius as a villain. He was wrathful and filled with pride but anyone would be when your enemy is as debased and cruel as the hells. He obeyed the will of the council even when they went against him. He never just wanted to outright kill Tyrael despite Tyreal's great mistakes. (Of which there are many) I feel a redemption arc for Imperius would be more appropriate in this story and would be a nice twist from his original conception.
i'd like him to be the main villian for the first halfish as he goes full wrath... then burns out as all uncontrolled anger does and after he kills an angel he realizes what he did. and moves toward redemption
I like it that Team Redemption has so many members already.
@@chayoto We already had Izual and Malthael go rogue. It would just get repetitive and it betrays the infallible nature of Heaven. If archangels can be corrupted easily, than why not a demon be able to find redemption?
Plot twist, Imperius is the villain of Vanilla D4. And with his death the laughter comes from off in the darkness, the laughter.. of terror.
I dig it
Duuuuude that would be dope.
Imperius will become Diablo reincarnate in D4.
@@aphan9696 I feel as though thats not fair to imperius.. I feel he will become wrath incarnate. A demon in his own right, and probably our closest look at lucifer in the series, I also feel like he might become strong enough to kind of make his way onto the "Big bad" list.
But I feel the two need to stay separate characters to do them both justice.
@@thornwolf4234 I took that he was going to become the aspect of wrath out of everything that's happened too.
Reading the Sin War trilogy is opening my eyes to the truth of the Diablo universe, that is also echoed by Trag'Oul: Heaven =/= Good. The eternal conflict is light vs. dark, neither is good for humanity. Also, I'm very skeptical of the notion I keep hearing that Lilith will be our "Savior" I feel like to make her such would be an absolute retcon: Her one and only motivation is revenge (and dominance of everything, humans included, as a result). She murdered countless innocent nephalem during the sin war in addition to sleeping with her great-great-great-great grandson. to manipulate him for what she wants (control over the nephalem and destruction of hell & heaven). I really want that theme to be pursued during diablo 4 if they're going to make Heaven an enemy. I want us, the Nephalem standing on our own two feet, fighting for ourselves and the balance that perserves us and our freedom. This kind of happened during D3 already: We fought the Prime Evil, then a rogue angel that was once the head of the Angiris council
So basically, D2 will be D2s Uber run? But with more cutscenes
she will be just another loot pinata, agreee
Lilith sees the nephalem as a way to finally "win" the war. Not for Hell, but for her self.
Glad you didn't play the beta because they spoiled the ending right off the bat in the in game achievements where you see what titles you unlock.
Imperius kinda reminds me of Vegeta from dragonball. Their egos are even bigger then the whole universe =)
I want Imperius to go nuts, since I believe that's where this whole thing has been leading anyway. But I don't want a his character to just be killed off as just another fallen angel. I would like to see some redemption with him at some point in the story, to come to terms with the mistakes he has made and actions to have taken. To feel the weight of them and try to make amends. Not even ending with his death, but maybe exile.
I'd love a valorous redemption for imperius in D4.
Where he's still a bit of a snob, but will uphold his namesake values, no matter the outcome.
IMPERIUS as shown in D3 was a PERFECT example of how as estimable a value as "VALOR" is, it is about courage and strength in battle/conflict.. It has ZERO in actual connection with HONOR ( I mean he immediately joined battle when realizing Diablo was in the Silver City - no lack of courage THERE. Though so much fiction has been showing us brilliantly over the last 50 years that neither VALOR nor HONOR are inherently "good", or beneficial. They are often part and parcel in an individual with "GOODNESS", but they often stand completely apart: Valor = Bravery, Honor = Keeping your word/principles. THose can both just as often serve the forces of EVIL/CHAOS/Darkness.
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Or maybe the death of Tyrael is the trigger for Imperius to blame and attack humanity for the lost of his brother, who blindly believed in them,.
Plot twist: he becomes the leader of the new horadrim and starts a rampin campaign to convert every human into the light and the heaven council, a tyranical angelic hand, everyone who refuse gets impaled and brand as a heretic and follower of hell, but by doing all that he only create fear and terror within the horadrim and the non converted ones, and that was all diablo and his brothers needed to return more powerful than ever and we, the players, are goin to need the help support of lilith and rathma
I’d much prefer to see Imperius stay good or neutral. I loved that everyone thought he was turning into the expansions bad guy and he didn’t. I’d like to see him sightless humbled by the nehalems victory over malthael
What if the guy talking at the gravestone is imperious? Either he lost his grace and became mortal or shed his grace to understand. What if he's talking to a dead tyreal and will be the new narrator??
I love this idea cause it make's more sense
Doubt, he's too arrogant
The Angel of Wrath... your predictions from LONG ago have been right 😲
Its not a hard conclusion to come to though. Pride inevitably leads to a fall
Um..the entire Charater of Imperius rotated around him becoming Wrath..as Valor and Wrath are not necesarly oposites
I think we will eventually see Anu restored in the story, maybe not in D4 but I bet it happens eventually.
I wouldn't be surprised if Imperius would become the boss of a post-launch DLC where he'd assault sanctuary to end what he'd consider a threat to heaven while it's still recovering from whatever mess Lillith and co will create. Where Tyrael was worried the Nephalem would turn on heaven but would only act if it became true, the brash Imperius would pretty much ensure it. Kind of like a self-fulfilling/self-inflicted prophecy
I really hope this isn't the case, I've had enough of this how discord in the heavens they have been nothing but utterly pathetic and useless and as the supposed embodiment of everything good in creation, they need to redeem themselves, imperious should see that he is blinded by hatred and is turning into the one thing he has faught agaisnt his entire existence and should realise that he has made many errors and maybe die saving tyrael and the main characters lives? He needs some sort of redemption too many angels are falling to corruption to the point where in the lore heaven doesn't even seem like a force of good anymore at all and hasnt throughout d3 and by the looks of it d4 aswell.. its getting old make them once again stand in their unity and do something right for once..
We already did the angel turning bad in malthael that should of been imperious wake up call to realise he is loosing it just like his brother and come to understand humanity isnt as bad as he once believed, seeing as they helped save everyone multiple times somrtbing which the heavens should be doing really as they are supposed to represent good and righteousness.. he doesn't need to like them just respect them and move past his temper tantrums
Let him be a hero
We haven't yet to see a young angel
Come to think about it, the once great angiris council now missing 2 members out of 5. Tyreal abandoned his title of aspect of justice, and he isn't really capable of being the aspect of wisdom - his mortal body cannot fulfill the task of an archangel. If you ask me, Imperius doesn't need to do any dirty tricks, he can just naturally take control of the heaven. If there's conflict it will not be Imperius trying to overthrow others but rather others trying to overthrow him. And it is actually a reasonable act that the heaven trying to shut down their gate to other realms. Because they indeed need sometime to recover from the past events, both physically(replenish their numbers, recall key figures of the council) and mentally(think back about what they did and what turns out from their deeds). It would be rather silly if Imperius just make a kamikaze charge with his damaged army, and probably further damage it by purging them with his rule. That is just not smart, and is not a good story at all. Imperius is not a smart person about logic and emotions, but even a warmonger should at least know war better than anyone else. He's the aspect of valor not a hot headed 15 years old brat. So I say the isolation of heaven is not a fruit of someone's trick, but rather a natural move that everybody should agree to do. We'll have to wait and see what comes after that.
@Deepak Singh thanks god they abandon the original plan, which would have made Imperius another Izual.
I want to see Inarius getting out the Hell uncorrupted - because being uncorrupted after centuries being tortured in hell would have made him a worthy Heaven leader.
@@b.d.a.8719 d3 devs? in d1 a random prince war a captain of a Ranger group and a Vizjeral Mage kill diablo,,in d2 a bunch of random adventurers come and Kill diablo 2 lesser evils and 2 prime evils.
So may i ask..THE FK is even wrong with you questioning this JUST now?
OK, so here's a thought. In Warcraft, we get to play Arthas Menethil. We use him as a good guy, then as a bad guy while there still might be a chance for him to be brought back. But then he turns into the Lich King and turns into an NPC. Can we do the reverse for Imperius?
Thank you so much for this video. I love lore and hidden lore like this is a treasure trove for me. I was so sad when I learned we'd never get to see Diablo III last expansion... By any chance, do you know how the stories of the companion characters (Lyndon, the enchantress and the paladin) was supposed to end?
Tyrial does protecting Imperius. Imperial has a major redemption arc
I have Collector Edition of RoS and i watched the video added to this version of the game where they are talking about Imperius and this whole plot that they never used. I was so hyped seeing this. I hope we will see Imperius once again in the Diablo IV :)
HMM I have that too, but am not remembering what you are referrring to.. Can you share a link or anything or tell us more?
this is perfect!
Tehre were SO MANY HINTS about imperius going mad with rage that when I played Reapers of Soul I got really confused wit hthe way things went. This does makes a lot of sense and would have loved to see this interaction and I say that with Imperius being my fave of the angels. Pride and Wrath
1st I felt that char from D3 will be main villa of 4th(which blessed mother will be saving them from)
But now I feel it's gonna be Imperio which went over the line with his wrath.
I always thought Imperius would be the second member of the Angiris Council to go astray, after Malthael (despite what the prophecy in Diablo III says, which seemed to indicate that something would happen to Ithariel). But without necessarily falling into the excesses of the latter. An interesting development could be that Imperius discovers the angelic side of the Nephalem and reconsiders (somewhat) his opinion of them. It seemed to go a bit (really a tiny bit) that way in Reapers of Soul. It's also possible that Lilith goes after the Angiris council, I could see her giving Ithariel a hard time (this angel sees the fate of everything, he probably knows where Inarius is) and fighting with Imperius. After all, the underworld is normally in pretty bad shape after Diablo 3's actions (the 7 demons will take a while to reform). The Heavens aren't in a much better state but they still have some leaders and guidance. So maybe Lilith will see them as the priority threat, initially ? Time will tell ^^.
I wonder if the reappearance of Lilith and her being summoned by rathma or just humans in general will be the thing that finally sets him off? Perhaps with the intervention of the prime evils imperious sees that matheal was right in trying to wipe out humanity.
I really do hope that my brother imperius dosen't kill my brother Tyrael.
You have a tyrael pp...
How do you mean?
I do feel like there is some significance to Diablo's blood splattering on the Angels when Imperius deals the killing blow
Having Tyrial die, would be worst than having Zeratul die in SC2 (spoilers), cause there we at least have other characters we have followed through out the games, while in Diablo, Tyrial is the only one left that we care about...
Well Zeratul died doing what he always did Protecting Aiur and the race he died with the Closure and Hope that Artanis can restore the race to its former glory..
His death was tragic poetic and well done..
But ya. Killing Tyrael will be pretty bad since in the Diablo franchise makes characters that if the Fabs fan in love witht they are murdered 1 expansion or chapter later
Doesnt help that they kill thrm faster than they replace them..
So far Auriel ajd Ithirael are the only ones that i still have a level of care for
Good thing you warned of spoilers after spoiling it
@@darkwhispersstories47 i feel like auriel and itherael are gonna be much more prevalent in D4 because how badass they were. Especially in Diablo III: Wrath
If you're going to put a spoiler warning in at all, it goes before the spoiler.
I really was hoping that somehow Tyrael would get the soulstone put into his head. I wonder...what that would create?
Diablo with a Free trial key to enter heaven with ease xD
Imperius is like a diablo version of Vegeta, too much pride to become somethin he hates 👀👀
Imperius is my fav i hope he does not die i love him :(
I hope for a plot twist where Imperius saves the day. He is character who brings big emotions and simply end him seems too easy
People say that they don't want Imperious to become the villain, but I think he already is, and he was evil for quite a while. Becoming Darth Vader of Diablo world is a logical destinations for his character journey.
Hey great video man!!!!
it is unknown if worldstone could have create ordinary humans and sanctuary not those who are descendants of the nephalem.
Awesome upload man I left a like
Thank you
He is one of the coolest archangels in Diablo besides the angel of justice
Imperius is the Garrosh Hellscream in this story and vice versa
Not yet. He's not gone down that dark path
The blood of diablo that spilled on the angels has corrupted them....
I Hope imperius don't kill tyrael or become a demon becouse imperius is One of my favorite characters
i know people are all rdy thinking or are sure who the old man talking to the grave is. but i would like to think that its imperious. his shame and humility made him tear his own wings off and exiled him self to the mortal realm and the armor is his heatred and ego still being possessed. i think i would like to see that instead.
it is unknown if imperius becomes corrupted and becomes aspect of wrath just like neltharion becomes corrupted by n'zoth and becomes deathwing aspect of death.
This is what I feared when I first discovered that Imperius had an unchangeable hatred towards humans. it has opened a door that allows the corruptive forces of the underworld to enter into his heart and control his actions through his emotions.
Imperious " Make Heaven great again"
I wonder WHY NECA did not release a full set of angel in action figures. I would love to have them all
4:01 - Pronounced : Coo de grah-sse. (written coup-de-grâce). The way you pronounced it sounded like coup-de-gras, which means hitting with fat :-P. Great video !
well i love the portuguese subtitles on the beggining, thanks
There is no one beyond redemption. There are only those who lost all hope in the light.
0 imagination, the whole "angel becomes bad" it's rly dull
Well, it happens once with the Izual. I think Imperius as an archangel should be a greater challenge to the corruption. If they want to introduce it, I hope that we will reveal at least some interaction between the two fallen angels.
Where did you get the footage of the developers talking about the original imperius plans?
Reaper of souls behind the scenes
Game LORE Dash Thank you so much! I start school next week for game design and watch a lot of documentaries on what they almost made and what we got. So when I saw this I was like hold up, my favorite franchise has one and I missed it😂
Based upon the ending of Reaper of Souls, I don't think it makes much sense that Imperius would suddenly turn to evil and become an antagonist. While I would certainly enjoy having my character face off against him, I wouldn't want to be because he'd been corrupted. He didn't acknowledge being tricked by Diablo, but even with all his arrogance and pride, it would be a hard act to swallow that Imperius is unable to learn from past mistakes. If so, are all angels really that stupid? We already saw that, although begrudgingly, he understood enough that the Nephilim's help would be required in defeating Malthael.
Diablo afterlife for mortal does not work like are afterlife within Christian lore, so were do the humans go upon dead within the game, what is the well of souls, do the humans reincarnat?
Imperious is the only character left for development. I hope Lilith rips his wings off and makes him mortal. Doesn’t want to kill him-just left to suffer and die as a mortal slowly just to watch it all burn. Only to push his valor to new limits and unlock newfound power. Just gonna leave it at that-
#HireMeBlizzard #SaveDiablo
Let’s be honest, nobody likes Tyrael after that corny final speech in D3. He’s done-zo. Nobody wants to watch him get wrecked by Lilith he’s already gone for sure. Keep it dark from the get go!
..I dont want to see Imperious the King of Heavens (at this point) be smashed by Lilith he is meant to be the most powerfull if not among the most Powerfull of angels...
I am getting sick of this rotation of Nerfing the angels to death just for us to save the day...
@@darkwhispersstories47 the most powerful was always malthael, even before he became the angel of death.
However, having lillith (who, while powerful, isnt even a lesser evil) beat imperius, who went against big daddy diablo himself, would be dumb. She isnt closely stromg enough
Yea clearly you don’t know how Lilith operates. She manipulates those with power to do her bidding. Nobody talking about Lilith vs Imperius 1v1 combat-that’s just not how this demon operates. She will obviously have followers with nephalem powers, can gather that much from the trailer. Group of nephalem could be just as easily responsible, with Lilith coming in after the fact to belittle and berate. Also at no point have angels been “nerfed”, only overshadowed by the combined force of the prime evil from d3 or nephalem in general (which overpowered both sides). So unless your looking for a different game/story idk wtf you are talking about when you say a “rotation of nerfing”. Maybe go back to church if you are looking for sunshine and butterflies my dude...this is mofuggin Diablo and blood will be shed. (I’m just messing around, but forreal it’s a dark genre..expect as much).
@@erigat0580 uh and you are obviously not getting what type of game youre playing. Diablo isnt and never was a game with a complicated story. The villains show up, scream how unbeatable they are, and then get beaten. Everything more complex than that happened only in books and backstory. From diablo 1 onward, every single boss showed up to fight directly and then got banged.
Lillith will be no different.
ThaHoule LoL absolutely wrong unless you are talking about diablo 3 alone. Diablo 1 hero gets taken over by diablo after defeating his physical form-it’s not complicated yet you seem to have missed that basic fact from game 1. Bad guys don’t just show up to get beaten if your paying attention. I’ve played them all far too much and read most of the books as well, which are a part of the story so you don’t get to just dismiss them simply because they don’t fit your narrative/idea of the game.
I think its always so cheap when a character looses a fight because his weapon breaks and not because the enemie fights better. I am not just talking about imperius but also about the lichking.
Should check out flavor text in HotS for demonic Aureil, Tyreal and Imperius. The voice lines between them and the demons are interesting. They give a lot of wrath voice lines too. They out a lot of interesting information in that game.
it is unknown if angels does have good and bad sides.
No one wants evil Imperius he is the wrath of the heavens and purger of evil keep his heavenly fire burning!
One of the things (if not THEE thing) that made games like Diablo 1 such a success was the same thing that made the movie Jaws a success.... The lingering, haunting and ambiguous evil in the dark...the dark dungeons of an old castle, the sound of a distant scream, a creeky door shutting somewhere in the distance, the halls of the blind, the butcher and the half dead man telling the story. There was build up of suspense and mystery. Now it seems that they just throw tons of monsters at you out of the gate and it's the same old grind on every level of just killing tons of monsters lvl after lvl after lvl.....The art of a well told story has gone missing
What are the lore ramifications of Reaper of Souls, as regards the Black Soulstone? Were the seven evils of Hell freed and restored? Or are they all combined into Diablo as a singular being forever? When they were all trapped in the Black Soulstone, why was Diablo's identity the one that won out over the rest, instead of any of the others? Does the Black Soulstone still exist?
They are uncoupled - developers confirmed in the lore panel. Only andariel & duriel are back at the minute
A really cool ending for Imperious is not to have him die. But to be beaten and forced to live amongst humanity as a mortal
Nah, that's more of a punishment hey, he must keep his pride but become one with the realization that Nephs are necessary but never succumbs to them as a higher being or the thought of it, but more of a rival that you don't needa kill
Imperious, Aspect Of Wrath -Diablo IV Act 3 Boss
I kinda wish we did get Imperious as th ed main villian for the expansion it would'vd madr morr sense when they hinted towards it like with Baal in D2
Imperius should free Inarius when the Nephalem is captured but the minute all is well, kills Inarius and kidnaps Lilith and begins torturing her into finding out how to destroy the Nephalem.
The Nephalem fights Imperius and his armour is destroyed revealing a shard of the black soul stone was implanted into him when Diablo stabbed him in D3.
He’s becoming a rather mutated form of himself who can attack with both demon and angel powers.
A cutscene at 50% health kicks in where he sees himself in a pool of his own angelic blood, looking back on all the past wrongs he has done and offers himself as sacrifice to the Nephalem to rid him of his slow possession.
His last moments are giving advice to the Nephalem to hold on and cherish all the best moments of their life and use them when the darkness weighs heaviest.
He dies having his spear thrust into his chest. You get a cool weapon or piece of armour and that leads you to your showdown with Lilith who has been possessed by the 3 prime evils.
Could be that the rest of the angiris council decided to take the Nephalem in as a aspect of justice to try and keep him on the side of light and imperius can’t take it and goes berserk kills tyrael and escapes and it’s an older nephalem at tyrael’s grave in the trailer now too old to fight but can grant his knowledge to the new player character. At the end of act 2 imperius kills the nephalem and you go to take revenge in act 3. Possibly near the end of the fight imperius starts to realize what he has done (only if u use tyrael’s sword during his fight) and you have a chose to kill imperius or keep him alive as a future companion to atone for what he had done. Just a thought.
Way too many ads...didn't finish. 6 before the halfway point is excessive.
Imperius : we seek Order and Control!!!
Me : Finally, It's him!!! May the Father's of understanding guide us (Templar signature)
maybes Imperius takes out his frustration on a mortal who is innocent, or at least not guilty of a crime worthy of death, and Tyrael jumps in front of the spear as a sacrifice, in a cinematic, a last ditch effort of Imperius after some sort of fight with Imperius Wrathful spirt, while his body is chained to a wall or something, like his wrath manifests as a separate entity... then Tyrael dies in some explosion as does Imperius, and Tyrael returns as Uber Tyrael, who has 2 halos, or something...
God! I love your channel! Diablo lore is the best type of lore
1st i kinda hate the idea of Tyrael becoming mortal so pls for the love of the angel of valor don't make my Imperius become a fallen angel.
My question is why there was imperius's painting in the church scene where Leah and Cain was at the beginning
Could y’all imagine if they made a feature length movie with the CGI of the Warcraft film?
They keep cheekily saying that they "didn't have a lot of time" for certain aspects of the game yet they had over a decade.
I love this game but can't find people to play with on Xbox
like zul mentions, the angles were never really on our side since the beginning. so imperious giving in to wrath was almost a given. society corrupts. what i'm more interested in was the creation of sanctuary. the consummation of angel and demon bloodlines merged into... us.
They should have a diablo game where you can play as an angle and a demon, both fighting against maybe a team up of imperious and diablo
Man I just want to see our character from 3 not end up corrupted or killed or becoming a danger to the world
The Hot Potato is Imperius and The Murderous Shark Man is Malthael and The Imposter Cop is Tyrael.
Being honest,if they don’t somehow kill off the Nepalum(?)off screen,a corrupted imperius is the only match worth making.With Naruto(Not a fanboy,just listen),Madara was written so powerful it kind of cornered the writer for a while,so he had him killed in a cheap kind of way to reveal a lesser characters master plan with less plot armor,that’s just one example,as for now the Nepalum(?)is way to powerful.
"Why not have Imperius kill Tyrael? Because we need Tyrael." I hate plot armor. Why do you need Tyrael anyway? The story is more important than any particular character, and Diablo has always been a bit bleak. If you're going to change the scenario, do it for the right reasons; Not because you blithely wrote yourselves into a corner.
In this case, it's right. Angel Tyrael is my singlemost favorite character design of all time.
I have a feeling Imperius will be the new host of Diablo in D4
Hmm when i look at Blizzard right now (WoW Shadowlands Beta) they seem to get a laugh out of turning the lore upside down. They dont want to have clear villans or good Leaders anymore. I dont trust their storytelling anymore. I havent preordered anything to date. I wait.
Blizzard was never particularly good at story, and I personally wouldn't go this route with Imperius. It seems like they have done this already, several times at that, and I would likely see something a little different. Let me explain. Imperius has seen the Nephalem save everyone's life twice. He doesn't like this, of course he doesn't, he's a reactionary and a racist. But here is the thing, we've already seen an angel fall to madness with Malthael, the wisest of them (allegedly), more importantly, Imperius has seen the same. Enemies who are foolish do not usually make for compelling villains in my mind, and when faced with all that evidence, especially Malthael's fate, it would be foolish to go full Wrath. Imperius, as a character, would be better used if he came to realize some of the error of his ways. Why? Because the binary gets old. This doesn't have to result in him being nice, but with him being better than he was. Then he can die later, but lets avoid the obvious, trite, route.
And yes, I think Tyrael needs to die storywise. Why? He chose to be mortal, and what does that mean but death? He made that choice and consequences should occur for that. However, I do not think it need be Imperius who does it. Even Tyrael kicking the bucket from old age would do, or due to a reduced lifespan after his brush with Death.
Then again, I also am here hoping that Lilith is a fake out villain, and that she's not actually a problem and someone else is. That someone else could certainly be Imperius, I suppose, though plenty of the Evils and/or Inarius would also do.
Him and Maltheal working together for reaper of souls would have been stupid for sure.
I dont see how is he racist? time and Time again humanity has proven to be extremely destructive and in case you didnt notice in d3 is our fault that Heavens almost got smashed In d1 that diablo still walked free to wreck havoc and in d2 it let to the corruption and Destruction of the world stone.
So no he has a point we are a threat to the balance of the diablo universe we always wore.. just cause he doesnt see the good in some of us that doesnt make his negativty and hatred in us invalid
@@darkwhispersstories47 He literally wants to commit mass genocide because he doesn't think humanity deserves to live. That's not just the bad people. That's everyone. He might be right that some humans are awful, but he also takes his hatred and holier than thou-ness way overboard. He also seems to be under the impression that due to his genetics/being, he is better than us and that we are straight up lesser beings. This isn't true, it seems, considering what Nephalem actually are.
@@Canuovea Here is a thing trough you are forgeting how pwerfull the Original Nephilim wore how a few of them could crush the Armies of Hell and Heavens with Ez it took 1 of them to sacrifice himself by taking all the power of the Nephilim in.
And even in singular we managed to kill the lords of hell over and over again.
The mind of His brother was Plagued..We dont answer to the Scroll of Fate..we are both hope and the undoying of it.
And dont act like it was just him Malthael and most of the Heavens have the same Thoughts.
With only a few accepting us.
He sees us as Insect which without the Nephilim strenght we really are.
Nephilim are the only ones that can stand against them and most humanity has that power blocked
@@darkwhispersstories47 Sure, but seeing people as insects is basically bigotry. I also don't think it is a straight power thing, if it were he would at least be nice to the Nephalem and see the rest of humanity as trash. No, I think it is a larger ideological problem he has with humanity, and I'm sure he'd couch that in language of purity and such. Language that might to sound a little familiar to the racial purity gibberish spouted by actual racists. He refuses to see actual people as people because of his ideology and conceptions of purity. He makes sweeping generalizations based on a relatively small sample size too. He's a bigot.
If it were just that he was wary of trusting volatile people with power, that would be one thing, but it manifests itself in a desire for genocide. He's a bigot of the worst order.
Personally I think the Nephalim is dead and possibly because of Imperious. Why?
Because we know blood shards play an important role in Diablo 4 (they are pieces of the world stone) and if the World Stone can de-power all Nephalim and change entire worlds, imagine what combining a lot of shards can do to one Nephalim. What was the Nephalim collecting for Kadala? Blood shards.
Angles knew how to use the world stone, Imperious may have learned how to use enough blood shards to weaken the most powerful Nephalim. The guy trailer says no one is left, imply IMO the Nephalim is gone.
I suppose other beings like Lilith or Inarius could be responsible as well, they knew how to use the World Stone.
"how's Tyrael still alive?"
Blizzard: "well.. plot armor..."
Best armor you can get xD
So Imperius got infected by Diablo... from that hit from Diablo at the scene of D3... it's like Valor got infected from Terror...
I just back here just to see Diablo 4
Imperius just got his ass beat. badly.
I would like to see him in a redemption arc, where he comes to term with his wrath. Still hating humans though
I am quite disturbed by the way blizzard design these rogue angels in the game. I can understand they want to remove human from existence because they believe humans contains demon half and could be a threat. What I don't understand is blizzard arrange them to do so with the black soul stone. Seriously? Consume the power of the prime evil to kill half demon hybrids? Is that the smartest plan for the former archangel of wisdom? Not going to do very well in speaking of exterminate all demons if you ask me.
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In my mind imperious was always on the line of evil and good. His brotherhood held him back. If left unbound my reason he'd fall into his own hatred and ego. He'd become the very thing he seeked out to destroy
The fifth character in D4 would be the fallen angel that would be awesome